Will Shredder remain human?

[neatoman]

So I've taken notice, Shredder is the only human left in the Foot Clan.

It's funny because tradionally speaking Shredder is usually the one who winds up not human, there's Worm-Shredder, Shark-Shredder, Super-Shredder, Utrom-Shredder, Demon-Shredder, Robot-Shredder, Zombie-Shredder, Iron-Shredder, Dragon-Shredder and Fly-Shredder. There was even a Tricaraton-Shredder planned.

So will he remain human or what?

[Powder]

I'm saying yes. That's more of a hope than anything else, but I'd like to think they'll keep him that way. If anything, I could see him becoming a ghost or something, but even then, he'd still sorta be human.

[Mukouno]

I'm also leaning towards yes, he will stay human. I can't really see why they'd mutate him. He's already kinda grotesque looking with his scars, burns and all but more importantly, depending on what he'd turn into, just how much stronger would that make him? And besides, I feel with Karai's mutation they already crossed a line.

And honestly, I can't see him being dump enough to fall into a canister of mutagen.

[blindturtle02]

Gonna go with yes. Please never change, 2012 Shredder. I like you just the way you are.

[IndigoErth]

Assuming yes, need him for the human numbers. (Not that us humans are so special that we have to be involved all the time... lol)

Besides, he's such a nutcase it's like he's already mentally mutated. ;)

[VaughnMichael]

I hope he becomes mutated honestly, but into an animal or something and not Super Shredder.:)

[Fang Wolf]

Please never change, 2012 Shredder.

They shall not change the Shredder.

[Shiro Kame]

I honestly don't know. It's possible because this series has only 4 characters (Casey Jones, Irma Langinstein, Kurtzman, and Shredder) that haven't mutated, been mutated, or at least haven't been confirmed to be mutants.

[neatoman]

Aside from the "tradition" argument, I think it would make sense for Shredder to get some kind of power boost as it seems like a Skeleton-Wolfman, Venomous Cyborg-Carp and a damn Tiger could easily overthrow him if they so desired.

[IndigoErth]

Aside from the "tradition" argument, I think it would make sense for Shredder to get some kind of power boost as it seems like a Skeleton-Wolfman, Venomous Cyborg-Carp and a damn Tiger could easily overthrow him if they so desired.
Good point, although maybe that threat could be part of his storyline sooner or later.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

I'm on the fence....I would be totally ok with him not mutating but........let's say maybe he wanted to try mutating with an animal that has regenerative capabilities so he could heal his scars or something. Something tells me Shredder ain't the superficial type though...

[neatoman]

I'm on the fence....I would be totally ok with him not mutating but........let's say maybe he wanted to try mutating with an animal that has regenerative capabilities so he could heal his scars or something. Something tells me Shredder ain't the superficial type though...

A Lizard? He could be like Curt Connors in a samurai helmet.

Looking from a list of natural enimes of rats, here are some other options:
A Cat
An Owl
A Spider
A Scorpion
A Snake

As For natural enemies of turtles:
An Alligator
A Cyote
A Dog
A Cat
A Raccoon (no really)
An Otter
A Shark
A Seagull
A Crab

[Gunpowder]

Hopefully I'm not alone here, but I actually wouldn't mind seeing him turn into some kind of volatile mutant beast and attack the Turtles in that form. I'm not saying I want that to happen, but I think it'd be cool to see. But will they actually do that to him? I'm guessing no.

[shredder orokusaki]

I am considering it. Maybe if the kraang gives me some retro mutagen i might mutate and then use it to turn back to human.

[drgon78]

Only if it is his final battle with the turtles.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I'm betting he'll either be mutated or brought back from the dead.

[CyberCubed]

I can see him becoming Super Shredder, but I don't think he'll become an animal mutant.

[snake]

I hope so. Super Shredder would be cool though.

[blindturtle02]

I hope so. Super Shredder would be cool though.
I've always liked the look of Super Shredder.
Yeah, he'd be cool alright. I gotta say I also love the idea of an overripe Shredder back from the dead.

[Candy Kappa]

Even if whole NYC mutates, I hope Shredder stays human.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Zombie-Shredder? Could be interesting. Vampire Shredder might be better, though. Maybe they could bring in Vam Ni(sp?)? Since they're sort of fond of using obscure characters from the past, having a vampire make an appearance and turn him could be a neat twist.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah! I'd watch that too. Kevin Richardson seems to give Shredder a somewhat sepulchral voice anyway. It might be fun to at least see it as a Dream Beavers sequence.

[DarkFell]

Shredder needs to be kept human. Leaning a bit towards Super Shredder but no so much into seeing a mutated individual or even a Shredder / Krang hybrid just yet. He should stay as a cold calculating ninja grim reaper and stay shrouded in the shadows as it gives him the most appeal.

[Powder]

I hope he becomes mutated honestly, but into an animal or something and not Super Shredder.:)

Ya know, Dino Shredder from the old Playmates line would be pretty cool...

[Coola Yagami]

Aside from the "tradition" argument, I think it would make sense for Shredder to get some kind of power boost as it seems like a Skeleton-Wolfman, Venomous Cyborg-Carp and a damn Tiger could easily overthrow him if they so desired.

Honestly, with how crappy Chris and Xever got.... I'm pretty sure Shredder can whup all three including Tiger Claw with minimal effort.

[Gunpowder]

Honestly, with how crappy Chris and Xever got.... I'm pretty sure Shredder can whup all three including Tiger Claw with minimal effort.

True. They seemed like better fighters before they got mutated. :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

Super Shredder but then cured as a human again like Kirby.

[CyberCubed]

Shredder becoming a Dragon like in the 4kids series could be possible too.

[Shark_Blade]

Shredder becoming a Dragon like in the 4kids series could be possible too.

Is it a robot dragon thingy? :ohwell:

Or even Ch'rell alien turned dragon is just mehh..

[CyberCubed]

Is it a robot dragon thingy? :ohwell:

Or even Ch'rell alien turned dragon is just mehh..

No, the Demon Shredder turned into a dragon, not Ch'rell.

[Shark_Blade]

No, the Demon Shredder turned into a dragon, not Ch'rell.
Maybe I should watch 2k3 one of these days.. :P

I remember there's so many Shredders, even virtual ones lol wtf. :lol: Would be easy to have one true Shredder like OT and 2k12 Shredder.

[Luckyday]

I don't think that they have the restraint to not go in that direction.

[VaughnMichael]

Ya know, Dino Shredder from the old Playmates line would be pretty cool...
I wonder how they'd pull that one off though.
It'd be great though if the mutation he gets is used against him or if it's pay back for all he's done.
Shredder becoming a Dragon like in the 4kids series could be possible too.
Actually, I'd really like that and then he could be Dragon Lord.

[neatoman]

Honestly, with how crappy Chris and Xever got.... I'm pretty sure Shredder can whup all three including Tiger Claw with minimal effort.

What about beating Splinter? He sucked against Splinter.

[tylerdavies]

I remember there's so many Shredders, even virtual ones lol wtf. :lol: Would be easy to have one true Shredder like OT and 2k12 Shredder.

that's what they actually called the demon shredder - the one true shredder lol

[Knight_man]

It is only a matter of time. In the season finale shredder states that he has no love for the human race. I can see them going mutated route when he himself fails to deal with the turtles and splinter.

[Toadtrooper]

I kind of wish Leatherhead would have torn off one of Shredder's arms so he'd have to live with a prosthetic Kraang one. I think that's more fitting to this incarnation of Shredder than a mutation.

[victory_angel]

Well we do see Shredder clutching his shoulder in pain after he tosses Splinter into the drain pipe, so he may have that replaced.

[TurtleTitan97]

Well we do see Shredder clutching his shoulder in pain after he tosses Splinter into the drain pipe, so he may have that replaced.

That doesn't make sense though. Just because his shoulder hurts is no reason to just suddenly replace it. Now if his arm were seriously injured beyond the hope of healing, that would make sense.

Anyway, on topic: I think it's definitely a possibility. If we ended up getting an updated, genuinely threating version of Super Shredder that didn't kill itself a few minutes after mutating, that would be pretty cool.

[victory_angel]

That doesn't make sense though. Just because his shoulder hurts is no reason to just suddenly replace it. Now if his arm were seriously injured beyond the hope of healing, that would make sense.

Anyway, on top: I think it's definitely a possibility. If we ended up getting an updated, genuinely threating version of Super Shredder that didn't kill itself a few minutes after mutating, that would be pretty cool.

Let's wait and see, there could be more to that shoulder clutch moment then we think. Aside from Splinter and Leatherhead getting in some good hits.

[TurtleTitan97]

Let's wait and see, there could be more to that shoulder clutch moment then we think. Aside from Splinter and Leatherhead getting in some good hits.

Maybe, but I still doubt that will happen.

[LeoRaph]

Shredder should remain human, he's already scarred for life both physically and mentally. Not to mention actually caring for Karai, especially the guilt for what happned to her. Leaving a human who hates humans is much more interesting than going down the 'well he hates humans anyway so what the hell lets mutate him'.

In fact, he is one of the only human bad guys which makes him even more interesting. To mutate him just like almost 'every' other character to an animal or god forbid super shredder (I was never a fan - just seems like a dumbed down hulk smash version of one of the most skilled, ruthless, deadly characters of all time) takes away from him not adds to him.

[Coola Yagami]

Although it would be the one thing that would finally make Shredder snap and lose all sanity, fully giving in to the vengeful rage....

[ssjup81]

Shredder should remain human, he's already scarred for life both physically and mentally. Not to mention actually caring for Karai, especially the guilt for what happned to her. Leaving a human who hates humans is much more interesting than going down the 'well he hates humans anyway so what the hell lets mutate him'.

In fact, he is one of the only human bad guys which makes him even more interesting. To mutate him just like almost 'every' other character to an animal or god forbid super shredder (I was never a fan - just seems like a dumbed down hulk smash version of one of the most skilled, ruthless, deadly characters of all time) takes away from him not adds to him.

Although it would be the one thing that would finally make Shredder snap and lose all sanity, fully giving in to the vengeful rage....I'm on board with both of these.

I could only see Shredder being mutated if the show wants him to lose all sanity...but him nonmutated is already threatening for the reasons mentioned by LeoRaph. For this incarnation he works as a flawed human who obviously has some screws loose.

Seriously I could see Shredder like...

Shredder: When I think about him [meaning Splinter] I cut myself!
Tigerclaw: ??
Shredder: It fuels my anger because he caused this pain!!! He's the one cutting into my flesh!! He shall pay with his life.
Tigerclaw: Why do I hang around you again? >_>'

[snake]

Anyone have a full list of all the Shredders from 2k3?

[Luckyday]

Shredder should remain human, he's already scarred for life both physically and mentally. Not to mention actually caring for Karai, especially the guilt for what happned to her. Leaving a human who hates humans is much more interesting than going down the 'well he hates humans anyway so what the hell lets mutate him'.

In fact, he is one of the only human bad guys which makes him even more interesting. To mutate him just like almost 'every' other character to an animal or god forbid super shredder (I was never a fan - just seems like a dumbed down hulk smash version of one of the most skilled, ruthless, deadly characters of all time) takes away from him not adds to him.

I sincerely hope from the bottom of my heart that the people behind this show are reading your post. It's the strongest argument against theirs being "Because it's shiny."

[Warhorse]

Let's wait and see, there could be more to that shoulder clutch moment then we think. Aside from Splinter and Leatherhead getting in some good hits.

Doubtful. Raphael had Karai Snake spat in his eye, and nothing came of it.

[victory_angel]

Doubtful. Raphael had Karai Snake spat in his eye, and nothing came of it.

Nothing has come of it yet. They just haven't had a plot to bring that issue up. Maybe Raph's been getting eye irritation off screen.

[neatoman]

Well, in retrospect, what did you think of his transformation?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Well, in retrospect, what did you think of his transformation?

It was fitting for such a monster of a man

[Zog The Magnificent]

Well, in retrospect, what did you think of his transformation?

I thought it was great. It was fitting, they finally made good use of the Super Shredder concept, and it's probably the reason they were allowed to actually kill him in the end. Good arc, overall.

"If it bleeds green, we can show it on-screen!"

[shihe]

Well, in retrospect, what did you think of his transformation?


Well as much as I hate to admit it, his design makes more sense than past versions. Instead of his shoulder plates mutating, it's as if his skeletal structure mutated into spikes.

The fight went really hard and was very emotional. Think I even cheered when they took him down!

[CyberCubed]

Super Shredder was a good idea. As Splinter said to him, "Now you are a monster both inside and outside!" which is very fitting for this version of him.

Also unlike the movie version, this Super Shredder being more of a monster rather than just gaining muscles and height fit too.