Official Episode Discussion S2 Finale: The Invasion

[JTH]

The Season 2 Finale is on Nick's website for free. Enjoy! :D

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-996-full-episode.html

[ssjup81]

Yay! Details from those who watch please. ^^

[Sabacooza]

I'd love to watch it but the stupid thing goes black after the intro.:(

[Jester]

Anyone else getting a "Sorry, this video is not available." error message?

[MikeandRaph87]

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[Jester]

"I swear...this never happens to me..."

[Zatoichi]

The Season 2 Finale is on Nick's website for free. Enjoy! :D

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-996-full-episode.html

Video stops playing after the intro, guess I have to wait for it to show up on youtube like I did with Dimension X.

[Sabacooza]

Nice to know I'm not the only one.

[MikeandRaph87]

It works on my end.

Irma meets the turtles thanks to persuing footbots! Not to mention Irma is....

[Xiewin]

Wow, what an fantastic finale.

A bit disappointed about what happened with Irma though

[MikeandRaph87]

Wow, what an fantastic finale.

A bit disappointed about what happened with Irma though

A Kraang spy who is voiced by Gilbert Godfried who took the identity of a new student and befriended April in order to discover the turtle's lair. So Irma never really existed. Totally disappointed! Odd reference to Baxter Stockman/Mr.Freeze with the head on mechanical spider legs.

[Jester]

Finally....
*watching now*
Oh, god, CyberCubed will so have more fuel to add to his Kraang Prime is THE Krang fire.
So...Donnie is Ciro. I mean...the drawings are totally Ciro's concepts...nice touch.
Dominic Catrambone's leo is much more....Non-Biggsy...in this episode.
So....Irma's a....um....ok...
Maybe Kraang Sub-Prime (mortgage) is THE Krang... :D
Really surprised the Kraang could infiltrate when most still speak in the way that Kraang has spoken since the first appearance of Kraang.

[JTH]

I'd say it's a good thing that Season 3 is starting the week after, a lot of stuff went down...


MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE
Shredder is forming a deadly alliance with the Kraang so he can get Splinter and Leonardo, and have Karai demutated
Casey and Raph have the talk about April talking about him, and Raph tells him about Donnie's feelings for her also
Irma is a Kraang all along, and is what leads the Kraang to the lair to begin the invasion
There are many other undercover Kraangs in the city as well
The Purfected Mutagen turns humans into Mutated Kraangs
Donnie begins to tell April that he loves her, but April doesn't let him say it for "certain reasons"
Kirby gets mutated into one as well
Leatherhead looks left for dead
Splinter is left for dead and is left behind in the city, but is saved by Karai at the end
Donatello pins the whole failure of the mission and Leo's state on himself, it looks like we're on a crash course for emo Donnie in Season 3
It looks like for the time being, April has picked Casey also
The last sence sees the group driving out of the city after their defeat and witnessing the demise of NYC, they're on their way upstate to Northhampton (Although it's not called that, it's just called "Upstate New York")


Overall, this is the best episode of the series so far.

[Zatoichi]

Ugh, why does Nick have suck a lousy video player? Still won't play after the opening credits.

[FoxBoxKid]

Hole. Lee. Sh*t. With. Sprinkles. On. Top. :o tenouttaten It was soooooooo good! Like, Korra good. Wow. I actually cried at end. That was amazing. I don't think amazing does it justice, ya know? I still need time to process everything. Just, whoa.

[Jester]

Wait....the Earth Protection Force? Think we'll see Bishop?

[ssjup81]

I'd say it's a good thing that Season 3 is starting the week after, a lot of stuff went down...


MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE
Shredder is forming a deadly alliance with the Kraang so he can get Splinter and Leonardo, and have Karai demutated
Casey and Raph have the talk about April talking about him, and Raph tells him about Donnie's feelings for her also
Irma is a Kraang all along, and is what leads the Kraang to the lair to begin the invasion
There are many other undercover Kraangs in the city as well
The Purfected Mutagen turns humans into Mutated Kraangs
Donnie begins to tell April that he loves her, but April doesn't let him say it for "certain reasons"
Kirby gets mutated into one as well
Leatherhead looks left for dead
Splinter is left for dead and is left behind in the city, but is saved by Karai at the end
Donatello pins the whole failure of the mission and Leo's state on himself, it looks like we're on a crash course for emo Donnie in Season 3
It looks like for the time being, April has picked Casey also
The last sence sees the group driving out of the city after their defeat and witnessing the demise of NYC, they're on their way upstate to Northhampton (Although it's not called that, it's just called "Upstate New York")


Overall, this is the best episode of the series so far.So excited for this!!!

*reads spoilers*

Wow the Irma news...don't know whether I'm intrigued or disappointed.

What you said about Splinter has me excited...Whoo!!! Karai!!!

Oh and Kirby is going to be screwed for life, seriously!

Isn't North Hampton in New Jersey, btw?

Oh and did this ep finally show Leo and Donnie's rooms?

Ok now for spoiler questions...

Why did Donnie blame himself for what happened? Did he cause Leo to run off? Can you be a bit more specific?

Why was Leo alone?

How did the subject of April even come up for Raph to even tell Casey that Donnie had a thing for her?

You said April chose Casey. Mind specifying?

How did Raph and Casey get separated from the others?

What happened to the mech?

What went down in the Shredder and Leatherhead encounter. Why were they going up against each other? Was he helping Leo?

How was Leo cornered?

What was going on with tea time girl and pizza delivery boy?

Did Casey flee the city with the turtles? If that storyboard is any indication, and the trailer, I'm sure April did.

How did Kirby get mutated? Was he protecting April?Thats all I can think of at the moment. Until a mobile version is out I can't watch it. I'm saving my cellular data to watch it. lol

[victory_angel]

Wow I haven't actually seen this episode because my roommate came home and turned on the news before I could watch it. But from the sound of things, I've been calling some points of this.

[NinjaPug]

Holy crap what a finale. Not gonna lie, I'm pretty drained emotionally after that.

Thank you Ciro for the Leo one-shot homage.

[Jester]

Isn't North Hampton in New Jersey, btw?
Massachusetts, actually.

[Xiewin]

After being letdown by a majority of seasons 2's writing, all I can say is that I was absolutely amazed at how well done this was.

I can't wait for season 3.

[TurtleTitan97]

This had to be the best episode of season 2 by far! It even topped Wormquake!!! :o

Can't wait for the next season!!!

[NinjaPug]

The last sence sees the group driving out of the city after their defeat and witnessing the demise of NYC, they're on their way upstate to Northhampton (Although it's not called that, it's just called "Upstate New York")



They didn't verbally reference it but I'm pretty sure the sign on the highway said NORTHAMPTON.

[Donnieangelo]

A Kraang spy who is voiced by Gilbert Godfried who took the identity of a new student and befriended April in order to discover the turtle's lair. So Irma never really existed. Totally disappointed! Odd reference to Baxter Stockman/Mr.Freeze with the head on mechanical spider legs.
IRMA IS A WHAT!?!

I don't think I'll ever sleep for months.

[LH]

Leatherhead.....

It's a good thing we know he'll be in season 3... He was brave to take on Shredder... To save Splinter... But even he was no match for him...:(

a lot of emotions running right now...:tcry:

[TurtleTitan97]

Leatherhead.....

It's a good thing we know he'll be in season 3... He was brave to take on Shredder... To save Splinter... But even he was no match for him...

a lot of emotions running right now...:tcry:

Dude, I know what you mean. I was literally cheering when he went totally nuts on Shredder. That was brutally epic.:tcool:

[LH]

Dude, I know what you mean. I was literally cheering when he went totally nuts on Shredder. That was brutally epic.:tcool:

Yes... He showed him no mercy... As it should be!!!!!...:tmad:

[Autbot_Benz]

That is how a Finale is done the feels I got from some parts got me choked up a bit.

[NinjaPug]

Too bad Ciro and crew aren't involved in the movie universe. The Invasion was 1000x better than the nonsense that Platinum Dunes gave us.

[JTH]

Oh and did this ep finally show Leo and Donnie's rooms?

Ok now for spoiler questions...

Why did Donnie blame himself for what happened? Did he cause Leo to run off? Can you be a bit more specific?

Why was Leo alone?

How did the subject of April even come up for Raph to even tell Casey that Donnie had a thing for her?

You said April chose Casey. Mind specifying?

How did Raph and Casey get separated from the others?

What happened to the mech?

What went down in the Shredder and Leatherhead encounter. Why were they going up against each other? Was he helping Leo?

How was Leo cornered?

What was going on with tea time girl and pizza delivery boy?

Did Casey flee the city with the turtles? If that storyboard is any indication, and the trailer, I'm sure April did.

How did Kirby get mutated? Was he protecting April?
Thats all I can think of at the moment. Until a mobile version is out I can't watch it. I'm saving my cellular data to watch it. lol

Answers are in the spoilers bolded:
Why did Donnie blame himself for what happened? Did he cause Leo to run off? Can you be a bit more specific?
Sure, the differing of opinions the description states involves the point of conflict. Donnie's plan is to use the Turtle Mech, but Leo strongly disagrees and thinks the best plan is to make a second base outside the city. Meaning if Donnie had followed Leo's advice, they could have gotten out of the city with no invasion ever taking place. Leo gets separated from the others after a Kraang portal opens up between them blocking them from each other while escaping the lair, Leo tells them to get out while he distracts them to buy Mikey and April time to help Donnie who gets injured during the escape.

How did the subject of April even come up for Raph to even tell Casey that Donnie had a thing for her?
In typical Casey fashion, he just brings it up to Raph while spray painting himself with her on a building on the surface. Casey took the comment about Donnie and just was like "Pfft. Whatever man..."

You said April chose Casey. Mind specifying?
They don't really come out and say it, but the vibe is made pretty clear. When April is tending to Donnie's injury in her apartment, Donnie was basically like "Well, since it's the end of the world...again. I guess I can finally tell you how I feel about you April..." April gets wide eyed and then tightens the bandage around his arm to shut him up. Plus several others times it looked like he wanted to tell her after this, but she quickly changed the subject to the matter at hand, also the final scene in the Party Wagon, the embrace April does to Casey when she learns that Casey couldn't find his family looks very telling. Donnie's reaction doesn't look like he's going to take it well either...

How did Raph and Casey get separated from the others?
Raph and Casey start out separated from the others as they are on search for Karai.

What happened to the mech?
The Mech is fried as a result of their last ditch attempt to save the city.

What went down in the Shredder and Leatherhead encounter. Why were they going up against each other? Was he helping Leo?
Leatherhead actually saves Splinter from Shredder, the first fight that is. LH and Splinter meet each other in the sewers and head up to find the turtles, but do not. Sadly, Leatherhead's advanced age lead him to be defeated by Shredder and he looks like he falls through a floor of a demoed sight and into a running sewer. He isn't seen again after it.

How was Leo cornered?
Leo after being separated from the others is lured by the Kraang into the Foot's area to attack him in an all-out assault.

What was going on with tea time girl and pizza delivery boy?
They are really only seen for a brief period, basically the scene we see in the trailer.

Did Casey flee the city with the turtles? If that storyboard is any indication, and the trailer, I'm sure April did.
Yes both are with the turtles going to Northhampton. And all turtles too obviously... :P

How did Kirby get mutated? Was he protecting April?
Not really protecting April persay, he gets blindsided by Kraang Prime's mutagen gun weapon while trying to get him to "his" Party Wagon. The party is Kirby's vehicle when he was younger it appears.

Hope that covered everything you wanted. ;)

[TurtleTitan97]

Too bad Ciro and crew aren't involved in the movie universe. The Invasion was 1000x better than the nonsense that Platinum Dunes gave us.

I couldn't agree more.

Hey 2014 movie writers, take note. THIS is how you should write Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Not that sorry excuse for a film.

[Powder]

Not tagging for spoilers because this thread exists for no other reason than to discuss what we saw. If you're coming to this thread, be prepared to get spoiled. No apologies.

Anyway, that was pretty cool, buuuuuuuuuut, am I the only one feeling a little underwhelmed? I mean, yeah, it covered a lot of ground, there was dope action, some interesting reveals (or, well, one at least), but it kinda felt like season 1's finale all over again, except this time it wasn't new, & thus less exciting. There are unresolved issues in New York, are we to expect them to fall to the wayside in season 3? We spent the entire season watching mutants get created, yet not only did so few of them get retribution or healing, they didn't even show up in the end! I was kinda expecting/hoping to see Slash & Mutagen Man aid the turtles in their time of need, for example. Ah, well... I guess these things will get touched upon halfway into the next season? At least we won't half to wait long to see where things pick up. I just dislike the idea of a two part finale that doesn't really end anything, it's just a lead into the upcoming episodes. Would have liked to get some closure on at least one character's plot, rather than there being a host of new problems. But complaints aside I was definitely on the edge of my seat & it was entertaining.

[Xiewin]

Too bad Ciro and crew aren't involved in the movie universe. The Invasion was 1000x better than the nonsense that Platinum Dunes gave us.

Agreed, so much potential wasted.

[Autbot_Benz]

loved the 1990/ comic throwbacks IE Leo getting thrown through the window nearly unconcious them leaving new york to go to rest and relax.

[MikeandRaph87]

IRMA IS A WHAT!?!

I don't think I'll ever sleep for months.

uh,yeah, she is really a guy who is an utrom and Kraang Prime's second-in command and top spy who was posing as Irma Livinstein. The whole point was to get to April after she was captured and examined last season's finale. A false person was created as high school student named Irma. Thus Irma never actually existed. The revealed robot was voiced by Gilbert Godfrid and held off Splinter until Shredder got there. Sorry for the run on sentences I was just trying to explain what you wanted.

When she appeared before in the Chinatown Ghost Story it was said that Irma like April was unique though it did not specify what was special about Irma. Now we know.:-?


Yes, it is Northampton indeed that they are headed without Splinter.

This is getting annoying in regards to Kirby O'Neil. First he is a captive then a mutant-bat and then hit by the perfected mutagen and is a Krrang now.*sigh*

So what are the chances of Agent Bishop showing up very soon?

[Mellie]

Oh my god, that was amazing!


I got a little choked up when they were gathering belongings at the lair and when Mikey comforted Raph :cry:

[JTH]

Anyway, that was pretty cool, buuuuuuuuuut, am I the only one feeling a little underwhelmed? I mean, yeah, it covered a lot of ground, there was dope action, some interesting reveals (or, well, one at least), but it kinda felt like season 1's finale all over again, except this time it wasn't new, & thus less exciting.
I wouldn't say it wasn't new, simply because of the fact the turtles lost, and lost brutally.

For the football fans out there, the Turtles were the Tampa Bay Bucs to the Kraang and Shredder's Atlanta Falcons.

Complete annihilation and humiliation.

[Donnieangelo]

uh,yeah, she is really a guy who is an utrom and Kraang Prime's second-in command and top spy who was posing as Irma Livinstein. The whole point was to get to April after she was captured and examined last season's finale. A false person was created as high school student named Irma. Thus Irma never actually existed. The revealed robot was voiced by Gilbert Godfrid and held off Splinter until Shredder got there. Sorry for the run on sentences I was just trying to explain what you wanted.

When she appeared before in the Chinatown Ghost Story it was said that Irma like April was unique though it did not specify what was special about Irma. Now we know.:-?


Yes, it is Northampton indeed that they are headed without Splinter.

This is getting annoying in regards to Kirby O'Neil. First he is a captive then a mutant-bat and then hit by the perfected mutagen and is a Krrang now.*sigh*

So what are the chances of Agent Bishop showing up very soon?

*bangs head on iPad repeatedly*

[MikeandRaph87]

*bangs head on iPad repeatedly*

Re: both Irma and Kirby
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[Ninjinister]

Loved that Karai came and saved Splinter at the end. I was hoping she'd show up earlier, during the fight to save him, but I'm glad she did it at some point.

[ssjup81]

Answers are in the spoilers bolded:
Why did Donnie blame himself for what happened? Did he cause Leo to run off? Can you be a bit more specific?
Sure, the differing of opinions the description states involves the point of conflict. Donnie's plan is to use the Turtle Mech, but Leo strongly disagrees and thinks the best plan is to make a second base outside the city. Meaning if Donnie had followed Leo's advice, they could have gotten out of the city with no invasion ever taking place. Leo gets separated from the others after a Kraang portal opens up between them blocking them from each other while escaping the lair, Leo tells them to get out while he distracts them to buy Mikey and April time to help Donnie who gets injured during the escape.

How did the subject of April even come up for Raph to even tell Casey that Donnie had a thing for her?
In typical Casey fashion, he just brings it up to Raph while spray painting himself with her on a building on the surface. Casey took the comment about Donnie and just was like "Pfft. Whatever man..."

You said April chose Casey. Mind specifying?
They don't really come out and say it, but the vibe is made pretty clear. When April is tending to Donnie's injury in her apartment, Donnie was basically like "Well, since it's the end of the world...again. I guess I can finally tell you how I feel about you April..." April gets wide eyed and then tightens the bandage around his arm to shut him up. Plus several others times it looked like he wanted to tell her after this, but she quickly changed the subject to the matter at hand, also the final scene in the Party Wagon, the embrace April does to Casey when she learns that Casey couldn't find his family looks very telling. Donnie's reaction doesn't look like he's going to take it well either...

How did Raph and Casey get separated from the others?
Raph and Casey start out separated from the others as they are on search for Karai.

What happened to the mech?
The Mech is fried as a result of their last ditch attempt to save the city.

What went down in the Shredder and Leatherhead encounter. Why were they going up against each other? Was he helping Leo?
Leatherhead actually saves Splinter from Shredder, the first fight that is. LH and Splinter meet each other in the sewers and head up to find the turtles, but do not. Sadly, Leatherhead's advanced age lead him to be defeated by Shredder and he looks like he falls through a floor of a demoed sight and into a running sewer. He isn't seen again after it.

How was Leo cornered?
Leo after being separated from the others is lured by the Kraang into the Foot's area to attack him in an all-out assault.

What was going on with tea time girl and pizza delivery boy?
They are really only seen for a brief period, basically the scene we see in the trailer.

Did Casey flee the city with the turtles? If that storyboard is any indication, and the trailer, I'm sure April did.
Yes both are with the turtles going to Northhampton. And all turtles too obviously... :P

How did Kirby get mutated? Was he protecting April?
Not really protecting April persay, he gets blindsided by Kraang Prime's mutagen gun weapon while trying to get him to "his" Party Wagon. The party is Kirby's vehicle when he was younger it appears.

Hope that covered everything you wanted. ;)Thanks. I should've rephrased the Leo question, though. How was he lured?

That aside, my emotions are all over the place just reading this.

Did they show Leo or Donnie's rooms?

[kolaida]

I loved it. Really enjoyed all the action and the Leo ambush. Loved how concerned Mikey was for Leo (47 missed calls lol) and how he calmed Raph down after the Shredder/Splinter throw down. The Donnie/Leo fight at start was fun, too. Also Casey getting arrested by the Kraang police was funny! I loved it all and didn't want it to end. I'm assuming bad things happening to Kirby is like a running gag now, lol. I am sad about Irma, though. I liked her character and was hoping it was just a Kraang posing as her, so that was disappointing. I can't wait for more.

[JTH]

Thanks. I should've rephrased the Leo question, though. How was he lured?

Did they show Leo or Donnie's rooms?

Thanks. I should've rephrased the Leo question, though. How was he lured? The Kraang bots basically battled with Leo until he was drawn up to the surface where the foot took over.

Did they show Leo or Donnie's rooms? No they weren't, and sadly it doesn't look like they're going to be seen as the lair is pretty much burned and destroyed.

[ssjup81]

Thanks. I should've rephrased the Leo question, though. How was he lured? The Kraang bots basically battled with Leo until he was drawn up to the surface where the foot took over.

Did they show Leo or Donnie's rooms? No they weren't, and sadly it doesn't look like they're going to be seen as the lair is pretty much burned and destroyed.Thanks. Sucks about the rooms, though. I was hoping that since they would be invaded, that we'd get a glimpse of it before everything went down or either during the fight.

[Donnieangelo]

Re: both Irma and Kirby
sBmFwKH5bVY
Thanks. :)

[JonesyKitty]

anyone else having trouble playing the episodes on nicks website? I was only able to play the first 5 mins of "Into Dimension X" and this episode stops after the intro:tgrumble:

[Megchan]

Wow, I'm a torrent of so many emotions right.:teek:

[prophecy718]

anyone else having trouble playing the episodes on nicks website? I was only able to play the first 5 mins of "Into Dimension X" and this episode stops after the intro:tgrumble:

Plays well on my ipad

[JonesyKitty]

Plays well on my ipad

I have a verizon tablet, its playing now but either starts over or only to about 5 mins in after the intro and then either goes back to the very start or back to right after the theme

[snake]

IT'S UP!!!!

I'm just about to start it. DON'T FAIL ME TURTLES!

[BabyTurtles]

I actually liked this episode!

Mikey was just PERFECT!!!! all the feels.....Him kicking butt! trying to bring his bros together! and hugging Raph!! I almost couldn't take it!!! XD

April and her powers are still annoying....how could you NOT figure out something was up with Irma??

Irma.....oh Irma....you will be missed as the normal girl.

but yea.....Mikey made the episode for me XD

oh and poor Leo....

[snake]

Irma is Krang subprime? Neat.

[BabyTurtles]

gawd Mikey....:cry:
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[snake]

Earth Protection Force? Bishop?

[ssjup81]

gawd Mikey....:cry:
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OMG, the feels. I almost want to tear up and I still haven't seen it. It's pulling on the heart strings.

It's nice how Mikey is the compassionate one.

I need to get out of this thread.

So from the spoilers, I feel sorry for Leo, Donnie, and just like in movie 1 when separated from Splinter the first time, Raph for those specific reasons. I feel bad for all of them, having to leave their home.

[Xiewin]

gawd Mikey....:cry:
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ughh..that scene killed me

[BabyTurtles]

OMG, the feels. I almost want to tear up and I still haven't seen it. It's pulling on the heart strings.

It's nice how Mikey is the compassionate one.

I need to get out of this thread.

So from the spoilers, I feel sorry for Leo, Donnie, and just like in movie 1 when separated from Splinter the first time, Raph for those specific reasons. I feel bad for all of them, having to leave their home.

Mikey was so perfect T_T he was kicking butt....he was compassionate...he was trying to bring everyone together

Mikey is the heart.

(sorry for talking so much about Mikey guys...I've just been waiting forever for moments like this...)

[snake]

That ending was...woah.

[JonesyKitty]

Sucked it up and pulled out my crummy laptop and watched the whole episode from start to finish with no problems, and HOLY S*** that was freaking intense! The entire episode kept me watching the screen without looking away once, and that Mikey/Raph hug had me on the verge of tears! am I the only one that thinks Krang Prime and Krang Sub-Prime's voices would be better switched? I don't really know why but the female voice to me really doesn't work with Krang Prime.

[Chaotix12345]

Absolutely fantastic finale. Crap constantly hit the fan and that created some terrific action and great twists. I mean, seriously. DAT IRMA TWIST AND LEATHERHEAD/SHREDDER BRAWL!
Nothing more to say than bring on Season 3!

[Raph's Girl]

WOW. Just WOW!! When Irma was revealed to be Gilbert Gotfried I was like... W...T...H?! Now THAT's how to do a plot twist!!! :o

I thought it was sweet when Karai saved her daddy. Show's she's not corrupted.

But sad that the turtles and splinter are now seperated. :/ But now we'll be able to see the ole farm that's uh... "upstate"... I guess in the Nick universe Massachusetts is part of NY. :P

[BabyTurtles]

Am I the only one that laughed when Kirby got mutated...

I'm no sadist...but..the way he was like "groovy!!" then got doused with mutagen made me burst out laughing XDD

oh Kirby...you will never NOT be mutated.

[Electric]

Only halfway through but oh my god, this is fantastic


And all this Leo Donnie confljct

[Autbot_Benz]

this finale also proves to me that this series is 10 times better than the fred wolf series. everything is taken much more seriously and you can get emotionally connected with characters

[ssjup81]

Am I the only one that laughed when Kirby got mutated...

I'm no sadist...but..the way he was like "groovy!!" then got doused with mutagen made me burst out laughing XDD

oh Kirby...you will never NOT be mutated.Really? He says groovy and then hit with mutagen? Sorry, but that is hilarious. I'm looking forward to that.

I guess it will be an onrunning gag, Kirby being screwed by the Kraang every season. By the end if the series, Kirby will be committed, I guarantee it...sorta like how after I read book 4 of HP like 14 years ago, I was like, "Harry is going to snap at some point...I don't know how, but he will and I will laugh when he does." Book 5 came along. Close enough. lol

this finale also proves to me that this series is 10 times better than the fred wolf series. everything is taken much more seriously and you can get emotionally connected with charactersNot really comparable. Different time, different audience. The 80s turtles show was normal for the time. Episodic, slapstick humor.

[crd2082]

I actually liked this episode!

Mikey was just PERFECT!!!! all the feels.....Him kicking butt! trying to bring his bros together! and hugging Raph!! I almost couldn't take it!!! XD

April and her powers are still annoying....how could you NOT figure out something was up with Irma??

Irma.....oh Irma....you will be missed as the normal girl.

but yea.....Mikey made the episode for me XD

oh and poor Leo....

I concur with all of this. As a Mikey fan it was SO good to finally see an episode where he was done right all the way through.

-Loved how he kept fighting against Krang sub-Prime even though he was pinned down instead of cowering and forgetting he was a ninja (although he did run away when Irma head attacked, but I would have to so I can't be mad at him),

-Loved how he soloed like five krang droids in five seconds flat in order to protect Donnie and April

-Loved how he wasn't portrayed as an idiot,

-Loved his inappropriate wisecracks on April and Kirby. (Telling Kirby reality is worse than his dreams seemed like something '90 movie Mikey would have said. And the more Nick Mikey reminds me of Movie Mikey, the happier I am.)

-Loved him calling Leo 47 times.

-LOVED HIM HUGGING RAPH TO CALM HIM DOWN!! Despite the inconsistencies with Mikey's behavior the Mikey/Raph relationship has been done incredibly well throughout the show.

I'm so glad he didn't revert back to his old self after returning from Dimension X. As long as we continue to get compassionate, badass goofball Mikey I'll enjoy this show even more than I do already.

Also, the assault on Leo was very well done. In fact, the entire second half of the finale was brilliant.

[ssjup81]

Ah!! I just thought of something!!!

You guys said the lair was destroyed. What happened to Timothy and ICK?!!!!


Only halfway through but oh my god, this is fantastic


And all this Leo Donnie confljctReally can't wait for this. I so can't wait to see the conflict how it will be resolved after the fact. I'm glad they're doing this with the two calm turtles who rarely ever have disputes as opposed to the traditional Leo and Raph conflict.

[Commenter 42]

This, THIS, is why I've been ragging on the PD crapfest.

I loved every second of this finale. Epic, fantastic, wild!
Great story telling, amazing moments, and left me wanting more!

Just, look at this thread! Look at all the joy, the love the enthusiasm!

Amazingly, this isn't the TMNT we all grew up with, but it's a great TMNT, and possibly the best of all versions tied together!

Nick has a good thing going with Ciro and his team. So good. So damned good.

Time to pass the live action baton PD...

It's Ciro's turn to bat.

[Electric]

freakin chills, i just have to go through everything

-irma twist, indecisive. I mean yeah, biggest plot twist since rahzar, which you all know i loved, but i was starting to like irma

-leo donnie butting heads, literally. This conflict is incredible

-Raph sticking up for donnie to casey

-Good raph casey scenes

-epic leo scenes. him fighting all 3 henchman was possibly the most epic scene to date

-shredder vs splinter epic as always, added with a twist of fricking incredible leatherhead

-this series is no longer holding back. mutating everyone into monstrosities, implied slashing of leo and splinter and leatherhead, implied crushing of quite a few things

-hey, what do you know, the humans joined in the fight

-leo one shot done incredibly

-raph reacting like he did was incredible, and only made better when mikey stopped him

-speaking of mikey. YES. he is the heart and soul of this team. incredible raph and mikey moments

-poor kirby, almost becoming a running gag of him being misfortunate enough to go through all this

-donnie stepping up while leo was out of comission

-Donnie acknowledging timothy

-karai saving splinter


So much loss, so much epicness. this is undoubtedly the best episode in this entire series yet

Ah!! I just thought of something!!!

You guys said the lair was destroyed. What happened to Timothy and ICK?!!!!


Really can't wait for this. I so can't wait to see the conflict how it will be resolved after the fact. I'm glad they're doing this with the two calm turtles who rarely ever have disputes as opposed to the traditional Leo and Raph conflict.

double post sorry

as they go back to the lair, donnie tells them to take one thing each, raph a picture of spike, mikey takes ick in a cooler, and donnie takes his box of stuff and his bag, then walks over to a still frozen tim and says "we'll be back for you. if were not, youll thaw out in about 70 years. hopefully the world will be a better place then"

so glad they included this scene, they did not leave anything out. Aprils dad, check. caseys family, explained. lair, gone, shell raiser, gone. tim, frozen. ick taken. slash, referenced. karai, shown.

ugh just incredible.

also just to note, in aprils moments remembering the lair, theres a flash of her dual wielding tessen

[BabyTurtles]

also just to note, in aprils moments remembering the lair, theres a flash of her dual wielding tessen

yea and her showing some bonding moments with the boys.
that would have been nice to see ON SCREEN ya know!! :x

[Iampinoy]

Such a great episode! Cant wait for season 3!


Was I the only one waiting for Spike to show up?

[Leofan26]

That was a fantastic episode, ok so had Donnie followed Leo's orders think all of this could have been avoided?

I'm kind of glad the turtles got separated from Splinter, hopefully for the third season as I'd like to see them fight and survive without his help for a while.

Poor Leo, his fights were some of the best of the final but ouch. Wonder what kind of arc they'll do for him next season? Guilt? Revenge mode like what happened in the 2003 series for a bit? Hey'll mature after a while so, I like the idea :)

Mikey was great here, really showed what a great stand up guy he can be.

Hurray! Maybe this love triangle crap can finally be resolved and move forward, let Donnie move on and go back to the turtle we know and love. The jealous side shows him at his worst :(

I hope next season, Donnie feels guilty over his actions towards Leo.

Pretty awesome, can't wait for season three :D

Edit;

Forgot the surprising moment, Irma's crazy secret. WTF crack pot theory was thatXD

[Luckyday]

yea and her showing some bonding moments with the boys.
that would have been nice to see ON SCREEN ya know!! :x

http://media.tumblr.com/90c21342a17d5a54d75eca42ab5f47ee/tumblr_inline_molnl1Dxhh1qz4rgp.gif

[miru]

Maybe there is actually a real Irma out there, and the Kraang was a poser?

[Zatoichi]

Just finished watching the season finale... wow, just wow. The writing in this show just keeps getting better and better! I'm looking forward to season 3. :D

[Zatoichi]

Maybe there is actually a real Irma out there, and the Kraang was a poser?

I like it if there was but judging from what Gilbert Subprime said, not very likely. I was just starting to like that character too, she reminded me of a slightly punk version of Velma.

[Kilowog]

I dont know why by that awkward screencap from Space Heroes that Mikey assigns as his icon for Leo on his T-Phone cracked me up hard

[Warhorse]

I was so hyped for this episode, and, I left disappointed.:( Actually, I'm kind of like right now, f%^&*ck this episode! I know there were very good scenes, plots, but I was just so turned off with what happened with Irma (I hate this with a passion!) and that we never got to see Raphael go ape sh!t on what happened to Leo. He didn't even seemed too upset. He spent half the damn time running from the Kraang. I hate what the writers are doing to Raph! Why do they hate him so much? All they do is make him into a bully and a crybaby? Where is the tough as nails, defend his family to the death with a heart of gold?

And it seems like they are slowly letting Apritello die. This is the only thing that was keeping me watching since the Raphael good parts are few and far inbetween.

[blindturtle02]

Loved every minute of the finale! I tried to be good and watch it next Friday but man, as soon as we saw it on Nick.com, better half and I watched. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Irma twist. I loved it, but it also freaked me out! Didn't see that coming at all. New Yorkers mutated into Kraang-like creatures? Nope. Didn't see that coming either. The fight scenes were incredible, but it left me wanting to binge watch the entire third season which hasn't even aired yet. Shredder is still a great villain in this incarnation, but I outright hated him in this finale. I don't feel that Leatherhead and Splinter going to town on him was punishment enough. Mikey was terrific as always. There was such certainty in his voice when he was calming Raph down and assuring him that everything would be alright. Cipes nailed the compassion bit vocally as well. Can't wait to see what is in store for the boys and co in season 3. How the heck is New York going to bounce back from this? Will Bishop take part in the cleanup? Is there a real Irma out there somewhere? And how am I going to pass the time until the season 3 premiere in two weeks? Very pumped for what's to come. It's been a great ride so far, and a joy discussing the show with all of you. Wouldn't be as epic if not for you dromers.

[BabyTurtles]

I was so hyped for this episode, and, I left disappointed.:( Actually, I'm kind of like right now, f%^&*ck this episode! I know there were very good scenes, plots, but I was just so turned off with what happened with Irma (I hate this with a passion!) and that we never got to see Raphael go ape sh!t on what happened to Leo. He didn't even seemed too upset. He spent half the damn time running from the Kraang. I hate what the writers are doing to Raph! Why do they hate him so much? All they do is make him into a bully and a crybaby? Where is the tough as nails, defend his family to the death with a heart of gold?

And it seems like they are slowly letting Apritello die. This is the only thing that was keeping me watching since the Raphael good parts are few and far inbetween.

I figured you would feel this way.....I'm sorry...I also thought it was pretty weird how Raph didn't react more to Leo.

I guess they are giving that to Donnie....(I say painfully)

but yea at least Apriltello dying down. (I hope they don't have Casey screw it up and make him out to be a jerk)

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Anyway, that was pretty cool, buuuuuuuuuut, am I the only one feeling a little underwhelmed? I mean, yeah, it covered a lot of ground, there was dope action, some interesting reveals (or, well, one at least), but it kinda felt like season 1's finale all over again, except this time it wasn't new, & thus less exciting. There are unresolved issues in New York, are we to expect them to fall to the wayside in season 3? We spent the entire season watching mutants get created, yet not only did so few of them get retribution or healing, they didn't even show up in the end! I was kinda expecting/hoping to see Slash & Mutagen Man aid the turtles in their time of need, for example. Ah, well... I guess these things will get touched upon halfway into the next season? At least we won't half to wait long to see where things pick up. I just dislike the idea of a two part finale that doesn't really end anything, it's just a lead into the upcoming episodes. Would have liked to get some closure on at least one character's plot, rather than there being a host of new problems. But complaints aside I was definitely on the edge of my seat & it was entertaining.

I was afraid I was the only one who felt this way.This season finale was good and very strong but I didn't feel that much excitement for this episode. Outside the Leo one-shot scenes, nothing new or particularly special happened. It just felt like a bit of a rehash. And with both a Kraang invasion and a Shredder ambush, this episode felt a little too busy for me to care that much. I saw how serious the characters have felt over their losses but I just couldn't feel anything. Storywise, it's a strong episode but for me it lacked in trying to grab me emotionally. Even with what happened to Leo, I just wasn't as excited as I wanted to be.

[Machias Banshee]

*throws out teaser and stickies thread*

I really hate the website player. I can't watch a damn thing...

[Mellie]

And it seems like they are slowly letting Apritello die. This is the only thing that was keeping me watching since the Raphael good parts are few and far inbetween.

I felt so bad for Donnie in this episode.

I'm not a shipper at all, but the way April stopped Donnie's confession made me think she actually does like him, and she played it up with Casey on purpose. I think Apritello fans are making me crazy. :teek: I just want the love triangle to be over.


That Raph/Mikey hug was my favorite thing ever. I was always on the fence with Nick Mikey, but he has been awesome in the past few episodes. He truly is the heart of the team. :tcry:

[Warhorse]

I figured you would feel this way.....I'm sorry...I also thought it was pretty weird how Raph didn't react more to Leo.

I guess they are giving that to Donnie....(I say painfully)

but yea at least Apriltello dying down. (I hope they don't have Casey screw it up and make him out to be a jerk)

Alot of Raphael fans I know have actually given up on the show. They keep emailing me or sending messaged via facebook asking if there is an improvement, but I can't lie, because there hasn't been anything. Like I've said before, I'm more optimistic than they are, the show is still young, and they still have two whole seasons more to go, but I might find my interest start to wane some if they don't give the Raph fans something to be excited about!

And I don't want Apritello to die down. Like I said, it's one of the primary things that is keeping me tuned in. I just don't care for the Casey/April/Donatello love triangle.

[BabyTurtles]

Alot of Raphael fans I know have actually given up on the show. They keep emailing me or sending messaged via facebook asking if there is an improvement, but I can't lie, because there hasn't been anything. Like I've said before, I'm more optimistic than they are, the show is still young, and they still have two whole seasons more to go, but I might find my interest start to wane some if they don't give the Raph fans something to be excited about!

And I don't want Apritello to die down. Like I said, it's one of the primary things that is keeping me tuned in. I just don't care for the Casey/April/Donatello love triangle.

I hope next season Raph gets his time. He might have not reacted that much to Leo....but he did seem very angry at Shredder.

I just want either 1) April to be single or 2) April choose Casey.

I like Donnie better when he's not around April...and there's too much stuff surrounding him right now. I feel like if he gets the main girl he's gonna be the star of the show at that point.

[Warhorse]

I felt so bad for Donnie in this episode.

I'm not a shipper at all, but the way April stopped Donnie's confession made me think she actually does like him, and she played it up with Casey on purpose. I think Apritello fans are making me crazy. :teek: I just want the love triangle to be over.


That Raph/Mikey hug was my favorite thing ever. I was always on the fence with Nick Mikey, but he has been awesome in the past few episodes. He truly is the heart of the team. :tcry:

That Raph going crazy over Splinter was a great scene, it's just, he should have been just as bad about Leo as well.

I didn't give much thought about the Apritello stuff, but then when I started to show my 8/9 year old cousin the series, she was a sucker for it, and we actually bond quite well over it. She still loves Mikey to pieces, he will always be her favorite, but she loves the Apritello thing right behind him. I hope you are right, that they are just teasing this and drawing it out for suspence. After seeing the vid with Black Nerd and how Rob Paulsen gets tons of mail about Apritello, and the tons of fan fic, pics and youtube videos, it would be show suicide to end that storyline so soon, or at all for that matter.

[evan2000]

Did Donnie intend to let April instead of Leo operate the Turtle Mech, right from his blueprint?

http://i.imgur.com/XiyInNk.jpg

[Electric]

I was so hyped for this episode, and, I left disappointed.:( Actually, I'm kind of like right now, f%^&*ck this episode! I know there were very good scenes, plots, but I was just so turned off with what happened with Irma (I hate this with a passion!) and that we never got to see Raphael go ape sh!t on what happened to Leo. He didn't even seemed too upset. He spent half the damn time running from the Kraang. I hate what the writers are doing to Raph! Why do they hate him so much? All they do is make him into a bully and a crybaby? Where is the tough as nails, defend his family to the death with a heart of gold?

And it seems like they are slowly letting Apritello die. This is the only thing that was keeping me watching since the Raphael good parts are few and far inbetween.

did you not see raphael bashing his head into the metal bars when shredder send splinter down into the sewer pipe? He was going insane, he was completely filled to the brim with rage. sure it wasnt at leo being thrown through the window, but still hes not a "crybaby".

he had great moments in this episode besides that, like when he stood up for donnie as casey asked about april, constantly throwing himself into harms way to try a and protect casey while they were running, then at the end when he had his arm around mikey as they drove away.

i cant say youre wrong, because its your opinion. but i can say raphael has been characterized as a selfless, supportive, strong brother. no part of him has dominatley defined him as a crybaby.

and i dont understand how you can just say "of course the episode had great scenes and incredible plot lines, but that one scene i didnt care for just completely trumps all of that."

[CyberCubed]

I'm a little disappointed April's shop/home wasn't burned down, but otherwise it was pretty good. Yeah some of it felt too similar to Season 1's finale, but this had more emotional weight.

EPF = Bishop? Why would it have the same exact name when it could have been any other government agents?

[Electric]

I'm a little disappointed April's shop/home wasn't burned down, but otherwise it was pretty good. Yeah some of it felt too similar to Season 1's finale, but this had more emotional weight.

EPF = Bishop? Why would it have the same exact name when it could have been any other government agents?

i was actually wondering the same thing about bishop, like if thats who he worked for in 2k3.

while i dont expect bishop, the title could have been thrown in there because it fit, or even just as an easter egg to bishop, but would love to se him in this show

[Warhorse]

did you not see raphael bashing his head into the metal bars when shredder send splinter down into the sewer pipe? He was going insane, he was completely filled to the brim with rage. sure it wasnt at leo being thrown through the window, but still hes not a "crybaby".

he had great moments in this episode besides that, like when he stood up for donnie as casey asked about april, constantly throwing himself into harms way to try a and protect casey while they were running, then at the end when he had his arm around mikey as they drove away.

i cant say youre wrong, because its your opinion. but i can say raphael has been characterized as a selfless, supportive, strong brother. no part of him has dominatley defined him as a crybaby.

and i dont understand how you can just say "of course the episode had great scenes and incredible plot lines, but that one scene i didnt care for just completely trumps all of that."

Not in this episode, but he is often either a bully, or complains/cries/whines about lots of stuff that his brothers do to make him loopie. Granted, I do like that so far, he's been the only one of the Turtles to actually talk back and get lippy with Splinter without remorse, and that I don't mind.

And why was Leo getting all hot with Donnie in the beginning with the whole leadership line?

[Electric]

Not in this episode, but he is often either a bully, or complains/cries/whines about lots of stuff that his brothers do to make him loopie. Granted, I do like that so far, he's been the only one of the Turtles to actually talk back and get lippy with Splinter without remorse, and that I don't mind.

And why was Leo getting all hot with Donnie in the beginning with the whole leadership line?

i attributed that to the fact that they were running out of time. donnies intelligent, leos a leader. they both thought they had the right solution, and felt there was no time to question it. thats why donnie said if he was leader, because he thought he knew best then hed have the authority enact his plan

[Rukitron]

This episode gave me some feels. Glad season 3 starts asap, but I cringe at how they'll space eps.

[Toadtrooper]

Another Triceraton reference? Was their presence the reason the Earth Protection Force was founded?

http://i.imgur.com/GjcJBeh.jpg

[InsaneZane]

I really enjoyed this episode, I think it may be one of my favorites! It was so awesome!

Nice homage to the 2k3/Mirage with the whole Leo getting injured and leaving for North Hampton... Great Feels and I love what theyre doing with this new show!
Now I'm really looking forward to seeing Bishop since the EPF showed up.
I am a little disappointed Irma isn't real and was a Kraang the whole time, but Gilbert Gotfried's voice made up for that :tlol: it's definitely an interesting way to use that character, I honestly didn't see that coming. If it was a Kraang though, why did she need glasses?
Can't wait for Season 3! Thank god its not a long wait lol


btw... to everybody having trouble with the video on Nick.com ,
the same thing has happened to me, the fix is very simple.... all you have to do is click forward later in the episode after where the first commercial break is located on the bar..... And then let it play until you can see both audio and video, then you start it over at the beginning without reloading the page and it should work fine

[victory_angel]

i attributed that to the fact that they were running out of time. donnies intelligent, leos a leader. they both thought they had the right solution, and felt there was no time to question it. thats why donnie said if he was leader, because he thought he knew best then hed have the authority enact his plan


In truth they both were both in the right with their arguments and if they had collaborated they could have made both plans work.

Leo's idea of having a second base outside the city was a good one, it would have kept the first lair from being invaded and destroyed. But like Donnie pointed out the invasion could happen at any point, so they didn't have much time to do it.

Donnie's Turtle mech certainly helped stem the Kraang invasion, but the last resort tactic not only burned out the mech, but the entire city's electric grid. So there are probably some hospital patients who died as a result of the black out.

If they had collaborated they could have had the second base and found a way to use the Turtle Mech as well.

[Zatoichi]

Donnie's Turtle mech certainly helped stem the Kraang invasion, but the last resort tactic not only burned out the mech, but the entire city's electric grid. So there are probably some hospital patients who died as a result of the black out.


Don't hospitals have back up generators in case of a blackout?

[Jester]

Don't hospitals have back up generators in case of a blackout?
Usually they do, yeah. Heck my workplace does...and we aren't a hospital, just a nation-wide department store chain.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Alot of Raphael fans I know have actually given up on the show. They keep emailing me or sending messaged via facebook asking if there is an improvement, but I can't lie, because there hasn't been anything. Like I've said before, I'm more optimistic than they are, the show is still young, and they still have two whole seasons more to go, but I might find my interest start to wane some if they don't give the Raph fans something to be excited about!


I definitely agree with those statements. That's why when I saw that episode 'Slash and Destroy', it was Extremely Promising on what they could/would do with Raph...but then the follow up on that? They screwed it up entirely and dropped the ball so badly that it is mind boggling to me.

You could have done SO MUCH with the Raph & Slash dynamic (Raph still cares for Spike and yet will protect his family at all costs, a villain/possible villain who cares/respects Raph and yet has an ever-growing hatred for the rest of the family...someone who knows them personally and even where they live). You could even have had Slash do something like go to the Shredder to 'get rid of the rest of them, as long as Raphael is safe and sound' or such.

That could have been Raph's on-going arc of having to deal with something that he pretty much created while dealing with the guilt (as well as being the Protector for his family, maybe even growing less angry as he really does not want to be like Slash)...much like Leo has with Karai or Donnie has with April. And people can disagree all they want, but in my opinion they really dropped the ball on that one.

I can perfectly understand why other Raphael fans would give up on the show, as I'm leaning closer and closer in that direction too.

[victory_angel]

Don't hospitals have back up generators in case of a blackout?

Well certainly a few more issues the city had to deal with on top of the Kraang invasion.

[Powder]

Somebody on the show wanted to know my thoughts so I figured I'd share my more articulate review with y'all as well.

Well, as far as it being an epic, game-changing series of events is concerned, it definitely delivers. It had my full attention. But to be perfectly honest, I guess you could say I'm a bit biased against it, for selfish reasons, maybe. It kinda felt like season 1's finale, except that everything went wrong for the good guys, & the turtles lost. Kinda felt like retreading old ground, in that respect, you know? Shredder/Splinter brawl, Kraang invasion, mass terror, etc. Don't get me wrong, I completely enjoyed it on an objective level, like, as a two part special, set to lay new ground or bring tensions to a head, yo, it's amazing. But, like, there were soooo many things from earlier episodes that weren't resolved or addressed, I felt, or at the very least, there are a ton of characters without closure. Rather than seal off certain character arcs or whatever, it only seeded more plot threads & things to be concerned about. I guess I'm just used to season cap ends addressing the major points of the stories prior, & this one really serves more as prelude to season 3 than it does the end of season 2, you know what I mean? I understand why things were done that way, given the new stuff is a few mere weeks away. It's just that I wanted season 3 to feel more fresh & new, & I guess I'm worried now that there's too much baggage being carried over into it, & that it won't feel as unique. Timmy is still frozen, Slash & Newtralizer are off somewhere raising hell, Karai's transformation & subsequent disappearance, Xever desperate for his lost humanity, there's a whole assortment of different mutants unaccounted for doing God knows what. I figured since the season was about the outbreak of mutagen, the finale would kinda fix the damage done. I dunno. I think I envisioned it being a team up of all the victims of the ooze rallying together to stop the Kraang, though in hindsight that may have been the predictable way to go... Also I'm very surprised you guys opted to keep Bebop & Rocksteady's mutation for the next season, considering we've seen them in their human forms already. Shredder could use all the help he can get, it seemed only natural that during this time he would want more muscle. I guess I just didn't expect the unhappy ending, not that it's a bad thing (I love the Mirage comics for the fact they're so grim & depressing). Usually with cartoons, turtles especially, things always work out. Caught me off guard that we were left in utter dismay, but I suppose that speaks to the quality of the series, in that it takes risks & often surprises you. & that's a good thing. Irma's twist was so outta left field, never saw that coming. Totally awesome. The nods to Leo's micro-issue of the original comics was great. Absolutely adored seeing the Bode (or was it Bode inspired?) graffiti, & use of Gilbert Gottfried. The pacing was stellar, flowed perfectly. The tension was high, as were emotions, & yet it still had that free flowing humor seamlessly thrown into the madness without feeling forced. So to remove my pre-conceived notions of what it should or could have been, it's most definitely solid work. It does what it's supposed to, ultimately, & that's have you chomping at the bit for season 3. My only real disappointment with what's to come is that we will now likely have even less of Splinter, who I find to be underused as it is (perhaps criminally so, given how wonderful his voice actor's performances are). Super into the whole vision quest concept, though. Dunno if you're into the old school comics, but for those of us who are, there's no better time with the turtles than when they're introspective in Northhampton, so I'm very eager for that.

[Jester]

You know I completely forgot the search for the lost ooze. Did the Turtles collect them all?

[ssjup81]

I definitely agree with those statements. That's why when I saw that episode 'Slash and Destroy', it was Extremely Promising on what they could/would do with Raph...but then the follow up on that? They screwed it up entirely and dropped the ball so badly that it is mind boggling to me.

You could have done SO MUCH with the Raph & Slash dynamic (Raph still cares for Spike and yet will protect his family at all costs, a villain/possible villain who cares/respects Raph and yet has an ever-growing hatred for the rest of the family...someone who knows them personally and even where they live). You could even have had Slash do something like go to the Shredder to 'get rid of the rest of them, as long as Raphael is safe and sound' or such.

That could have been Raph's on-going arc of having to deal with something that he pretty much created while dealing with the guilt (as well as being the Protector for his family, maybe even growing less angry as he really does not want to be like Slash)...much like Leo has with Karai or Donnie has with April. And people can disagree all they want, but in my opinion they really dropped the ball on that one.

I can perfectly understand why other Raphael fans would give up on the show, as I'm leaning closer and closer in that direction too.
Unless you want a speechless Slash like that one ep with a buzzing Baxter, I couldn't see him being around more because Corey Feldman is voicing him. I was actually hoping he'd show up in this ep too.

[JTH]

WOW. Just WOW!! When Irma was revealed to be Gilbert Gotfried I was like... W...T...H?! Now THAT's how to do a plot twist!!! :o

I thought it was sweet when Karai saved her daddy. Show's she's not corrupted.

But sad that the turtles and splinter are now seperated. :/ But now we'll be able to see the ole farm that's uh... "upstate"... I guess in the Nick universe Massachusetts is part of NY. :P

It's New York.

It's a real town:
http://www.townofnorthampton.com/

[Jester]

It's hardly "upstate" though....it's only slightly north but mostly east.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Wow, what a really good way to enter the finale. I do have a few questions and minor nitpicks though.

So, what happened to the Shredder? Where are the rest of the foot clan?

How did Leatherhead not damage any of Shredder's major arteries when he had him in his mouth ?

Did the Shredder actually think that the Kraang would hold their end of the bargain after the invasion?

This season finale improves on the last one in almost every way. It's darker and there are actual stakes.

9/10.

[JTH]

It's hardly "upstate" though....it's only slightly north but mostly east.
Many don't know this, but there are actually two Northampton's in New York, the one that has always been used in the Ninja Turtle Universe is in Fulton County *Seen in the blue location on the map below*. It's directly upstate of the NYC area.

https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/cancer/registry/nycounty_610x442.png

Here's the official wiki page on this Northampton for those interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton,_Fulton_County,_New_York

[Vicky82]

Had a busy morning as had to do the weekly shopping so I couldn't watch it until I got back. But OMG, OMG, OMG, I'm speechless, my emotions, i'm in tears. :cry: Poor Leo.

This episode was amazing, this has to be my top favourite episode out of all seasons so far.

So many feels in it, dat Mikey Raph hug OMG and then at the end in the van, Raph had his arm round Mikey,the feels, the feels.

[MiBs]

Just woke up with a serious hangover....this'll be the perfect way to start the day :D

[Vicky82]

Just woke up with a serious hangover....this'll be the perfect way to start the day :D

Better have some tissues ready.

[drgon78]

I loved it:), well except for the Irma thing.:x

[LeotheLateBloomer]

While this was a great episode, I just think other episodes, especially "Vengeance is Mine", were stronger episodes.

You know, with the setting taking place in the snow, I wonder if they'll try to adapt the Mikey one-shot issue, even if it doesn't take place in New York. I think even a Donnie one-shot adaption could possibly work as well.

[Donnieangelo]

You know I completely forgot the search for the lost ooze. Did the Turtles collect them all?
It seems they totally forgot it.

[MiBs]

Holy c***....what a finish!!! Gonna read the thread and post later

[ssjup81]

Okay, so thanks to evan2000, I was able to watch the episode. I will start off by saying, summaries cannot do this episode justice. My emotions were all over the place reading the spoilers and they were intensified actually watching it. I felt sympathetic, sad, awkward, relieved, ecstatic, amused, indifferent, and satisfied at different points of the ep. I also found the Irma thing ironic, but I'll get into that later.

You know, too bad Kurtzman wasn't in this ep. Oh, and like I was saying earlier about Kirby, poor thing. They're going to have to lock him up when his sanity fully goes, but I did laugh when he was hit with the mutagen after he said "groovy". I guess anytime the Kraang are involved, he will be a victim.

I'll start with the indifference since this is lighthearted, subplot territory. I was never into the whole Casey x April/Donnie x April thing all that much and am pretty neutral about both. It's more like whatever happens, happens. It can be No one x April, Donnie x April, or Casey x April for all I care, but this episode regarding this left me feeling very indifferent, and it was the suddenness of affection that April seemed to just start showing Casey. For me it felt forced. I too am wondering if she did this as a way to get Donnie to reject her since it's obvious she's now officially aware that Donnie romantically likes her and stopped his confession. Maybe she actually does harbor some feelings for him, but definitely doesn't want to deal with it given the awkwardness of actually officially hearing Donnie confess, hence why she cut him off. I don't know, I just feel that there will be more to it as it needs to be resolved at some point anyway.

Ok, that off my chest, on to my thoughts on other parts of the ep, which I will be rewatching, while my phone's connection is doing ok.^^

I'm glad we got the conflict between Leo and Donnie. Loved it. For me, I've never come across this. The two generally calm brothers having a dispute was refreshing because they usually always get along. Something I didn't expect was, "If I were leader..." from Donnie (oh and I liked Mikey's "Oh snap" lol). It was also nice seeing Donnie actually standing up for himself in a way, as my interpretation of him is that he just takes everything and locks it away. Like when Leo told Raph to "suck it up" and Donnie declared how that was his thing.

I like the fact that Donnie felt bad after they were separated from Leo and after he was beaten down. I know that usually you would get Raph for this, but the change was a breath of fresh air. When Leo flew through the window he looked surprised or shocked. He didn't rage...at that point.

Anyway, I felt a bit bad for Donnie because his actions lead to Leo's being hurt. Something I do wish, though is that it would've shown them slightly clashing more prior to this. I will say this, stress could've also factored into this, especially when leaving the lair and the two were arguing over how to find Casey and Raph. I did shake my head at this, though as the first thing I thought of was...."Um T-Phones...they work, right?" lol But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, they were very stressed and when stressed, on a personal level, most don't think straight.

As for Raph this ep, I really liked him and how he stood up for Donnie as well as his moments with Mikey. Loved them and how hard he tried to keep Casey safe. I also liked how he was raging seeing Splinter getting beaten down by Shredder. The way he was banging on the gate with his head and then his fists going into rage mode, his eyes going white, trying to get through was very emotional. He had the strongest reaction there. It was reminiscent of the 1990 film to me. Raph had the strongest reaction to Splinter's kidnapping. I really do sense that Raph will want to get his hands on Shredder for what he did to Leo and Splinter. Mikey calming him down was great. So many feels.

And speaking of Mikey, he was beyond awesome. As I've said, season 2 has been good to him more than season 1, imo because he hasn't been coming across as completely stupid or ADHD with the attention span of a gnat. Even as season 1 progressed though, I felt he was improving. I like it and Ciro has definitely delivered and kept his word. Actually, I felt that it was going there as early as Wormquake and felt the stuff for the Dimension X ep with Mikey was foreshadowed as early as Parasitica. Oh and I loved Mikey's "This is for my brother!" line. I also loved Mikey's fighting style. I've said from the very beginning that he's my favorite fighter out of the four and he's always been capable, imo, just needed to focus. Still interesting how the most unfocused one has the weapon that requires the most focus.

The best fight of the ep was definitely Leo's. Definitely did the Leo one shot justice. I also really enjoyed Leatherhead's fight. Also love that Karai saved Splinter.

Now for the Irma stuff. I found it ironic. If Irma had maybe met the turtles in that ep with Ho Chan, maybe the invasion would've happened then...no wait, it wouldn't have. They weren't ready yet. But, seems when Irma Godfrey saw the turtles and said it, she reacted. I wonder if there is a real Irma somewhere being held captive someplace and that Kraang just took her identity later on. Maybe she was real up until the point Irma started asking about April's secret friends. Her being a Kraangbot the entire time just doesn't sit right with me. The cops were Kraangbots too, but I doubt they were the whole time.

I also have a theory. If Irma was a Kraangbot the entire time could that be why Casey never seemed to warm up to her? Maybe he sensed something off with her? Also seems April's powers go nuts when she senses danger...which could've been why she never sensed anything with Irma. She was never a threat.

I look forward to season 3 to see if they'll tie up any loose ends, like the one-ep mutants, Slash, Newtralizer, and I am really looking forward to the vision quests and Karai. Does she still have her human memories, or did she save Splinter purely out of instinct? Like she knows there's a connection, just not how.

I'm also still hoping Fishface leaves Shredder's group after being pushed too far. I also wonder if Tigerclaw will change sides at any point. He sees how shortsighted Shredder is being as well as destructive and why does he have such a strong allegiance to Shredder?

And that's all I have for now. I'm still in a high over it, and my god! MIKEY! Yes, what I sensed in Wormquake is happening! lol Even though for this incarnation I favor Leo and Donnie, I find Mikey the most interesting followed by Raph.

[NinjaPug]

Another Triceraton reference? Was their presence the reason the Earth Protection Force was founded?

http://i.imgur.com/GjcJBeh.jpg

Thanks for grabbing that screencap.

I'm so ready for Triceratons and I'm hopeful the EPF means Bishop is coming too.

[JTH]

I'll start with the indifference since this is lighthearted, subplot territory. I was never into the whole Casey x April/Donnie x April thing all that much and am pretty neutral about both. It's more like whatever happens, happens. It can be No one x April, Donnie x April, or Casey x April for all I care, but this episode regarding this left me feeling very indifferent, and it was the suddenness of affection that April seemed to just start showing Casey. For me it felt forced. I too am wondering if she did this as a way to get Donnie to reject her since it's obvious she's now officially aware that Donnie romantically likes her and stopped his confession. Maybe she actually does harbor some feelings for him, but definitely doesn't want to deal with it given the awkwardness of actually officially hearing Donnie confess, hence why she cut him off. I don't know, I just feel that there will be more to it as it needs to be resolved at some point anyway.
Perhaps, to me the only possible recourse to why April stopped him on the positive aspect, is she doesn't want him to reveal something that should bring happiness and light to them in a time of darkness and chaos, thus never being able to cherish it the same.

But I think the line when April says, "You shouldn't talk, it just makes things hurt more." is a telling sign.

Since both April and Donnie pinned the invasion on themselves during the duration of the episode, maybe they will still bond eventually for both know what the other is going through playing the self-blame game and will both want to be there for each other. But obviously still too soon to tell.

[Electric]

It seems they totally forgot it.

Ok but really, after the events of the past several episodes, ones dealing with Karai, then the kraang oncoming then present invasion, tracking the few remaining mutagen containers would be low priority. There probably was only a couple left. After all the ones that had been been used on someone, the amount the turtles collected, and however many Baxter used in his giant vat, I'd say there wasn't too many left out there.

[snake]

This was so good. I just rewatched it.

[Warhorse]

Did Donnie intend to let April instead of Leo operate the Turtle Mech, right from his blueprint?

http://i.imgur.com/XiyInNk.jpg

I don't know why, but maybe the creators are trying to give us hints into the minds of Casey and Donnie and how they view her via artwork. In Donnie's illustration, he views April as one of them in terms of fighting and team work. In Casey's graffiti, Casey seems to view April as more of a, damsel in distress (his pic was actually similar to the original cover of Star Wars ANH!)

[Warhorse]

Usually they do, yeah. Heck my workplace does...and we aren't a hospital, just a nation-wide department store chain.

Heck, I have two farms in two states, and both have back up generators (I live in south Florida, so having a generator on hand is kind of a given, considering our chances of having a hurricane hitting us and knocking the electricity for several days, or even weeks.)

[NinjaPug]

As much as I enjoyed the finale I thought it was missing one thing...Jason Biggs. Dominic is doing a decent job of filling in but with this episode being so Leo-centric it would've benefitted from having Biggs.

[Warhorse]

Perhaps, to me the only possible recourse to why April stopped him on the positive aspect, is she doesn't want him to reveal something that should bring happiness and light to them in a time of darkness and chaos, thus never being able to cherish it the same.

But I think the line when April says, "You shouldn't talk, it just makes things hurt more." is a telling sign.

Since both April and Donnie pinned the invasion on themselves during the duration of the episode, maybe they will still bond eventually for both know what the other is going through playing the self-blame game and will both want to be there for each other. But obviously still too soon to tell.

This has me wondering. Raphael doesn't know that it was April leading Irma to the lair to begin with that started the ball rolling. If he finds out, you think he's going to start getting pissed at April? Maybe saying things to her that could put him at odds with both Donnie and Casey? Heck, Leonardo is the one who is closest to Splinter, and he did not get to see Splinter getting his tail kicked by Shredder, and he's probably still knocked out and won't wake up till season three, so, when he does wake up, he's going to have the anger of being beaten by The Shredder AND the knowledge that Splinter might be gone. And to add more salt to the injury, Raphael might tell him that he and Casey had their sights on Karai until the invasion started, derailing their focus, so there is a chance that a super angry Leo might lay this blame all on April!

[Xiewin]

As much as I enjoyed the finale I thought it was missing one thing...Jason Biggs. Dominic is doing a decent job of filling in but with this episode being so Leo-centric it would've benefitted from having Biggs.

Yeah I was kind of put off by his voice acting.

As much as I can see that he is at least trying, In some scenes it just made me cringe to listen to him.

[ssjup81]

As much as I enjoyed the finale I thought it was missing one thing...Jason Biggs. Dominic is doing a decent job of filling in but with this episode being so Leo-centric it would've benefitted from having Biggs.I forgot to mention this. I would've loved hearing him for this, especially during the argument.

[Ninjinister]

Another Triceraton reference? Was their presence the reason the Earth Protection Force was founded?

http://i.imgur.com/GjcJBeh.jpg

Nah, EPF was more likely formed due to the previous Kraang Invasion attempt.

[kelligrafie]

Well Jason isn't doing it any more and the sooner you get used to it guys, the better for everyone.

Dominic tried, plus he was always really friendly with fans. Maybe you should concentrate on that and the fact that we've got Seth Green coming next season.

It's certainly better than moping, musing and moaning.

ObiWanFan4life

1. Shredder's alive. The foot clan will currently be under the control of Tiger Claw, Rahzar and Fish Face, they'll regroup and wait for Shredder to turn up from his battle with Splinter.

2. Shredder wears a lot of armour - although yeah, croc/gator jaws are immensely strong, that's a bit of an inconsistency. Magic armour. Shredder has magic armour. He'll probably have a few bruises or cracked ribs.

3. He knows he can't trust them. He'll have some sort of backup plan for the inevitable double-cross.

[Shark_Blade]

Bravo Ciro and team, you did it again! :tlove: Dominic sounded great too.

Like Kevin Eastman said, this is definitely the best incarnation of the turtles so far.
Best story, best characters, best cinematography, best action/martial art, etc.

Now on to the stories:
- I like that Casey has no family baggage to carry to the outer city farm. April too, even the turtles. Only themselves as teenagers with no adult guiding them in the wild..
- It looked like Leo was totally sliced into pieces by Shredder's final attack, but turns out he only have a "cracked shell". Teensy nitpick, but eh, cartoon logic.
- Apritello moments. :tlove: And also eventhough April went on hugging Casey, he doesn't show any kind of anger or resentment.. he's got bigger problems on his mind, poor Donnie.

[Cure]

I liked this episode a lot and I'm really glad Irma isn't gonna be around anymore.

But now they're teasing Bishop, I guess, so they traded one character I dislike for another. Nooooooooooh well.

[neatoman]

The EPF huh?
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111024002245/tmnt/de/images/7/74/TMNT_EPF.jpg

I was never one of the people who thought the makers of this show hated the 2003 show, but I did not expect the EPF to make a cameo because of the general lack of 2003 influence.

Still, I'm happy to see the EPF return. Maybe we can get Bishop season 3 then?

[CyberCubed]

You know I think this episode alluded to two 2k3 villains:

EPF = Bishop

Casey's Dad = Hun


For those who don't know, Hun is actually Casey's father in the IDW comics. I also wonder if Casey's little sister will wind up being Angel.

[blindturtle02]

This was so good. I just rewatched it.

I re-watched it too around 1 or so last night. I might do it again some time next week. It's worth a few re-watches. That's for sure. Shredder was such a beast in the finale. I hope there are serious repercussions for him at some point. If Bishop does show up in this series, I hope he goes after Shredder. Earth Protection isn't going to be too happy if they find out about his betrayal of the human race. I wonder if Shredder will have to go into hiding at some point. Or he might figure out a way to frame the turtles.

[Warhorse]

I am so looking forward to Bishop if he shows up! I was worried that the new show creators resented anything to do with 2k3 so were purposely keeping such stuff out, but it's nice to think that they are not ignoring the previous cartoon, especially considering Bishop was a freaking beast on there.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised nobody commented that the Kraang turned apes into humans, essentially touching on the whole evolution mindeset of the world.

So in this series humans didn't evolve from a common ancestor with apes, they literally were mutated from apes. I'm surprised they touched on the evolution vs. religion aspect in a kids show. I wonder if any angry soccer moms will complain.

[ObiWanFan4life]

ObiWanFan4life

1. Shredder's alive. The foot clan will currently be under the control of Tiger Claw, Rahzar and Fish Face, they'll regroup and wait for Shredder to turn up from his battle with Splinter.

2. Shredder wears a lot of armour - although yeah, croc/gator jaws are immensely strong, that's a bit of an inconsistency. Magic armour. Shredder has magic armour. He'll probably have a few bruises or cracked ribs.

3. He knows he can't trust them. He'll have some sort of backup plan for the inevitable double-cross.

Thanks.

1. I know he's still alive, but I meant what's he going to do in the meantime ?

2. Good point, But how can Shredder have armor that's strong enough to take the beating he took, yet light enough for him to perform martial arts? But that's just a nitpick.

[Mukouno]

Hm, I found a livestream where I can watch it, but it always ends in the middle of the fight between Turtle Mech and Kraang Prime when Mikey says: "No, it's the Kraang-" End.
Could someone tell me what happens in the last minutes?

[Warhorse]

I'm surprised nobody commented that the Kraang turned apes into humans, essentially touching on the whole evolution mindeset of the world.

So in this series humans didn't evolve from a common ancestor with apes, they literally were mutated from apes. I'm surprised they touched on the evolution vs. religion aspect in a kids show. I wonder if any angry soccer moms will complain.

Yeah, I'm waiting for that one. I really didn't like the idea that the Kraang are the reason why humans existed myself in this incarnation. They should have just let sleeping dogs lie, if you know what I mean.

[CyberCubed]

I think the Kraang mutated the triceratops dinosaurs into Triceratons too.

[Electric]

Hm, I found a livestream where I can watch it, but it always ends in the middle of the fight between Turtle Mech and Kraang Prime when Mikey says: "No, it's the Kraang-" End.
Could someone tell me what happens in the last minutes?

Donnie used new yorks power grid to fry kraang primes suit, but also fries the mech. Kraang prime starts crawling at them before Casey hits him with the van. They drive through the city with all its mutations and wreckage and get on the highway with a sign leading to north Hampton, Aprils old family house is up there. Casey says he couldn't find his dad or his sister, April rests her head on his shoulder. Donnie apologized to unconscious Leo sayin he should've listened to him, raph has his arm around Mikey. The scene is incredibly similar to idws comic where they head to Northampton.

Then it shows splinter floating deep in the sewers and then Karai slithers by him, takes him up to the surface and sets him on a ledge, looks at him, nudged him then dives back down: the scene it ends on is splinter laying there

[CyberCubed]

So is NYC permamantly taken over by the Kraang now? I wonder why the U.S. government isn't sending a big army over there, maybe we'll see in Season 3.

[Mukouno]

Donnie used new yorks power grid to fry kraang primes suit, but also fries the mech. Kraang prime starts crawling at them before Casey hits him with the van. They drive through the city with all its mutations and wreckage and get on the highway with a sign leading to north Hampton, Aprils old family house is up there. Casey says he couldn't find his dad or his sister, April rests her head on his shoulder. Donnie apologized to unconscious Leo sayin he should've listened to him, raph has his arm around Mikey. The scene is incredibly similar to idws comic where they head to Northampton.

Then it shows splinter floating deep in the sewers and then Karai slithers by him, takes him up to the surface and sets him on a ledge, looks at him, nudged him then dives back down: the scene it ends on is splinter laying there

Thank you! Man, that sounds pretty depressing. :cry:

Will post my thoughts later.

[neatoman]

I'm surprised nobody commented that the Kraang turned apes into humans, essentially touching on the whole evolution mindeset of the world.

So in this series humans didn't evolve from a common ancestor with apes, they literally were mutated from apes. I'm surprised they touched on the evolution vs. religion aspect in a kids show. I wonder if any angry soccer moms will complain.

I'm a little more baffled at the logic here, so if the Kraang have been trying take over Earth since the dawn of mankind (and keep in mind, they're from a dimension where one year is an undefined number of decades, so it's even longer for them than us) why haven't they come close to conquer it until now?

Granted they are presented as being rather stupid seeing how many of their plans don't really make sense or are even done in a very effective manner. Having your leader run around, randomly shooting mutagen with a gun is hardly the optimal way for spreading it across the planet.

[Toadtrooper]

I'm surprised nobody commented that the Kraang turned apes into humans, essentially touching on the whole evolution mindeset of the world.

Evolution is nothing more than change over time.

But considering that New York City is so woefully underpopulated, I'm not too worried about it. Maybe the Kraang are the reason why there aren't that many people running around.

Maybe they intentionally reduced the population after an invasion attempt against monkeys and apes failed. A bit of a Planet of the Apes reference; maybe Dr. Rockwell will play some role in stopping the Kraang?

I'm not too worried about anybody in the hospitals when the power was cut, either. There might have been one guy with a bruised knee and that's about it.

[JTH]

My whole thought during the invasion: "Man, where's the Men in Black when ya need'em?"

[Vicky82]

The season 2 final was my favourite episode so far, it was amazing, emotional, intence. It had lots of action, loved the music and the special effects. I was in tears at the end.

Leo's One Shot fight at the construction site was amazing and intence loved the music throughout, it made it more powerful. When Leo fell into the water, I Loved the animation of the steam coming off of Leo’s body, the water, and Leo’s breath, it was so realistic. Then his adrenaline kicks in to fight the henchman.

Splinter (and Leatherhead) vs Shredder fight was great and was more emotional (especially at the end). When the metal pipes fell on Splinter (Ouch!) and then Shredder was about to kill him. Leatherhead saves him and fights Shredder himself and he has him in his jaws which was pretty dark.

Moments
Irma is a Kraang droid robot!
Tense moments between Leo and Donnie as they are argueing over plans to stop the Krang invasion.
Kraang invade the lair, lots of action, Leo gets hit by the pin ball machine, Ouch!
Mikey fighting droids in the and aww ICK helps Mikey.
Splinter tells them to run and Leo's hesitant,
Poor Donnie hurts his arm, loved how Leo completely trusts Mikey to take care of April and Donnie.
Mikey using his nunchaku to fire the Kraang guns.
Donnie tries to tell April on how he feels but April cuts him off
Kirby having a nervous breakdown
Loved the pan shot out of the apartment on the Kraang invasion
Did that Kraang die in the Lair, he got squashed.
"Stop hiding behind your Footbots and face me, Shredder!" That challenge is one of the bravest things Leo has said.
Kraang Prime and starts using mutagen on everything. Pigeons get turned into the Mop Mop creatures.
Earth Protection Force! Bishop anyone!
Kraang droids shouting out, Exterminate, Exterminate, reference to the Daleks from Dr Who
The rage on Leo’s face during this fight scene
Raph and Casey make it to April place and Mikey hugs Raph, Awww
Leo crashing thru the window in slow motion, love how the camera shows Donnie, Raph and Mikey’s shocked reactions.
Raph carrying Leo
Mikey throwing a sofa out the window shouting “this is for my brother!”
Kirby gets mutated again! that was unexpected.
Aww ICK didn't want to leave the freezer.
When they were in the Turtle Mech, I Thought they were going to destroy Shreddes lair.
The fight with Kraang Prime was great.
Karai's back and she saved Splinter.

Emotional moments
Splinter looking at a picture of his sons.
Leo badly injured, Raph and Mikey holding him in their arms.
Raph looking at a picture of Spike
Raph having an enraged moment when Shredder throws Splinter into the drain thing.
Mikey calming Raph down and hugging him was emotional
In the van leaving New York, April leaning against Casey, Donnie blaming himself and Raph has his arm round Mikey.

2 of my favourite moments :cry:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/09fd29985d2fd750df8aebadcaeb6bc4/tumblr_inline_nc75op64Iu1s9l1lv.png

https://31.media.tumblr.com/aa1a2eb6acb1a0e5cff65d71adac2414/tumblr_nc7fn96pvq1r0gytco1_500.png

Can't wait till season 3.

[Electric]

Small thing that I noticed or think I did: Aprils design looked more detailed

Especially her hair. In previous episodes to me it's always look less realistic than like caseys. It didn't look like it had detail, the strands never overlapped, and it almost looked plasticy? Like it had a glare to it. But in this episode her hair is detailed like caseys, moves more like hair, and I don't know, just I thought it looked better?

Maybe I'm seeing things hahah

[Foombamaroom]

Great episode! I loved that Mikey was a bit more mature and the Mikey and Raph moments were great. But that Leo one-shot was by far the highlight of the episode for me. I only wish they had Leo actually take on Shredder, but I was still satisfied enough.

The only really big lackluster for me is when Raph was calling Shredder a monster. I was really hoping Raph was gonna somehow break the cage down and attack Shredder with his brothers.

Overall, favorite episode of the show, even beating out Vengeance is Mine.

[Coola Yagami]

Whatever happened to airing it on tv. I know it will eventually but why is nick suddenly blowing their load early putting it online and for free. Doesn't that affect tv ratings?

[JTH]

Whatever happened to airing it on tv. I know it will eventually but why is nick suddenly blowing their load early putting it online and for free. Doesn't that affect tv ratings?
I think the movie played a bigger roadblock than Nick let on. I feel they planned on airing these episodes way sooner than we're getting, but there was a mutual agreement between certain parties to let everything run it's course first and then pick up where was left off.

This appears that they'll bite the bullet on ratings on TV to put them on the website, which they'll still get internal ads and revenue for sponsors there too. Plus the fact people can watch it over again only bumps up the ads even more for Nick. So in the end, Nick probably makes out better this way.

It turns out to be an everyone wins situation, it's a nice gesture from Nick to the fans after the extended wait to see the episodes a week earlier, plus Nick gets that I previously mentioned.

[kelligrafie]

Small thing that I noticed or think I did: Aprils design looked more detailed

Especially her hair. In previous episodes to me it's always look less realistic than like caseys. It didn't look like it had detail, the strands never overlapped, and it almost looked plasticy? Like it had a glare to it. But in this episode her hair is detailed like caseys, moves more like hair, and I don't know, just I thought it looked better?

Maybe I'm seeing things hahah

The whole episode has been updated in quality since the trailer. It was still a work in progress back then. If you look at the paintings/photos in the O'Neils' flat, they're no longer multiple copies of the Donnie and Mikey photo in Donnie's lab, they're individual paintings. Also they've added in more effects like smoke.

[Toadtrooper]

Kirby says the Party Wagon is back from his "hipster" days.

I feel that could spark a debate or two. :lol:

[BabyTurtles]

XD I liked Casey's graffiti version of April :D
https://38.media.tumblr.com/4db4e0d3d45371c6a033a12efcaaf9df/tumblr_nc6n9ix5Kf1rm530ho2_400.gif

[CyberCubed]

Kirby says the Party Wagon is back from his "hipster" days.

I feel that could spark a debate or two. :lol:

That also doesn't make sense. If Kirby was at least a teenger in the 60's....wouldn't he be like 60 years old now? People are forgetting this show takes place in 2012-2014, not the 80's or 90's. How could Kirby be a teen in the 60's and drive a van and not be old in the year 2014?

[ShelleyQuick]

The amount of WTF's and feels in this episode were almost too much to handle.

[JTH]

That also doesn't make sense. If Kirby was at least a teenger in the 60's....wouldn't he be like 60 years old now? People are forgetting this show takes place in 2012-2014, not the 80's or 90's. How could Kirby be a teen in the 60's and drive a van and not be old in the year 2014?
Who says this show takes place in 2012-2014?

Did I blink and miss the real Kraang Invasion that hit New York City last year? :ohwell:

[CyberCubed]

Who says this show takes place in 2012-2014?

Did I blink and miss the real Kraang Invasion that hit New York City last year? :ohwell:

LOL, what? Of course the show takes place in modern time. Every cartoon is largely based on the real world year, just like the 4kids series was pretty much based on 2003-2005 in the real world at the time.

[victory_angel]

That also doesn't make sense. If Kirby was at least a teenger in the 60's....wouldn't he be like 60 years old now? People are forgetting this show takes place in 2012-2014, not the 80's or 90's. How could Kirby be a teen in the 60's and drive a van and not be old in the year 2014?

His hipster days don't have to be in the sixties, hipsters were also present in the seventies and there are hippies still to this day. So just because he says hipster days it doesn't specifically ment 1960's or 1970's. As far as we know there could have been a phase of his life when he did want to try life as a hipster.

[JTH]

LOL, what? Of course the show takes place in modern time. Every cartoon is largely based on the real world year, just like the 4kids series was pretty much based on 2003-2005 in the real world at the time.
So when did The Kraang attack NYC, I don't seem to remember reading that in the news last year...

I WANT FACTS!
I WANTS DATES!
I WANT ANSWERS CUBED!!! :P

[Gunpowder]

This show just got 1000% more interesting.

[Luckyday]

That also doesn't make sense. If Kirby was at least a teenger in the 60's....wouldn't he be like 60 years old now? People are forgetting this show takes place in 2012-2014, not the 80's or 90's. How could Kirby be a teen in the 60's and drive a van and not be old in the year 2014?

Maybe he was talking about the Woodstock of 94.:lol:

Anyway in most cartoons, they randomly pick the 60's when going back to a parent's flashback and use the 50's when going back to grandparent's flashback.

It's kind of a cartoon trope.

[Metalwolf]

So when did The Kraang attack NYC, I don't seem to remember reading that in the news last year...

I WANT FACTS!
I WANTS DATES!
I WANT ANSWERS CUBED!!! :PWouldn't the government try to cover it up or something? Not saying one did happen, but the US government would end up trying to keep such a thing under wraps and explaining it away because of the major poo storm that would occur internationally. Not only that, but there would be mass rioting and other things, because people would be scared and irrational and it would be a threat to national stability and security.

About Kirby's 'hippy days,' Kirby would be in his 60s. He would have had April in his 40s, which isn't necessarily unusual.

[drgon78]

It would be really hard to cover up that New York is under alien control but I am sure they will still try.:lol:

[Donatello19]

This...this was the one of the best things to come out of TMNT as a franchise in years. This episode was a masterpiece. I don't think they'll ever be able to top this.

[JTH]

It would be really hard to cover up that New York is under alien control but I am sure they will still try.:lol:
What sickens me more is those other 200 superheroes in the New York area didn't even raise a finger to help our turtles during the alien invasion of NYC.

Hmm...must have had better things to do I guess... :D

[The Big Bad]

Well, this wasn't bad. It wasn't mindblowing, but that's mostly because it's coming at the heels of a largely mediocre season, which makes many of the beats here feel unearned. And while the show is getting much better at doing big set pieces--this finale could simply not have been done with season one's assets--even at its best, plenty feels sloppy. The series tries to sell us on a city-wide invasion, and yet the Leonardo vs. Foot scenes feature no signs of the Kraang. The E.P.F. are introduced, and then proceed to disappear from the plot, almost as if they had no purpose beyond being a nod. Kirby is having panic attacks, and yet has time to crack wise before getting mutated yet again so that he can be conveniently forgotten yet again. As soon as the Irma contrivance twist occurs, she is completely forgotten. The Kraang are a threat not because that's consistent with prior characterization, but because the show needs them to be a threat.

EPF = Bishop? Why would it have the same exact name when it could have been any other government agents?

Why not?

Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of the appearance, as something that should have been important to the plot amounted to little more than a cameo. In the end, I'm kinda hoping that we don't see Bishop--I simply don't see him fitting in here. After all, the Kraang are hardly the smartest villains around, and we're already being shown that the E.P.F. as being rather useless against them. I don't think the show could write a villain that is actually smart.

Many don't know this, but there are actually two Northampton's in New York, the one that has always been used in the Ninja Turtle Universe is in Fulton County *Seen in the blue location on the map below*. It's directly upstate of the NYC area.

https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/cancer/registry/nycounty_610x442.png

Here's the official wiki page on this Northampton for those interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton,_Fulton_County,_New_York

The Northampton referred to in the Mirage comics and 4Kids toon was always the one in Massachusetts. The one from the first film might have been the New York one, but then again, I'm not sure if the farmhouse there had any specific location other than "not Manhattan".


- I like that Casey has no family baggage to carry to the outer city farm. April too, even the turtles. Only themselves as teenagers with no adult guiding them in the wild... I was expecting this as soon as Casey mentioned picking his family up, but I was still disappointed to see it happen. I am tired of April and Casey's invisible relatives. Also, is this the first time we've heard that Casey's mom isn't in the picture? That's tiring too.

I'm a little more baffled at the logic here, so if the Kraang have been trying take over Earth since the dawn of mankind (and keep in mind, they're from a dimension where one year is an undefined number of decades, so it's even longer for them than us) why haven't they come close to conquer it until now? The writers have never been consistent when it comes to the Kraang, and every detail about them has been contradicted at some point or another. Remember when they said that the problem with the mutagen was that it didn't work on Earth? The writers don't, as last episode had them somehow perfecting it while on Dimension X. Remember when April was an essential part of the entire process? Not so much, it turns out. The question you ask is an obvious one, and yet the show can't answer it, because the writers don't care.

[CyberCubed]

I don't know if this show can pull off Bishop, but if they can I will love them forever.

[drgon78]

Yeah what is up with those so called heroes.:lol:

[tmnt transformer]

What sickens me more is those other 200 superheroes in the New York area didn't even raise a finger to help our turtles during the alien invasion of NYC.

Hmm...must have had better things to do I guess... :D

Maybe They're playing golf with the President....

[MaximeLoonatic]

The episode was so dramatic and EPIC!
The moment between the brothers, the battles... Splinter was so badass and amazing!! I hope he get better soon and found his sons.
There's just one single rant about the episode: irma a Kraang robot?! REALLY?!

Ciro, if you're reading this, we beg ya, undo it!! Make Irma real!

[Gunpowder]

Am I the only one who thought Shredder looked a bit grieved after throwing Splinter into the water and walking away? I think there's a chance we'll see some character development on his part.

[blindturtle02]

Wouldn't the government try to cover it up or something? Not saying one did happen, but the US government would end up trying to keep such a thing under wraps and explaining it away because of the major poo storm that would occur internationally. Not only that, but there would be mass rioting and other things, because people would be scared and irrational and it would be a threat to national stability and security.

About Kirby's 'hippy days,' Kirby would be in his 60s. He would have had April in his 40s, which isn't necessarily unusual.

Hippie Kirby... Yeah he's gonna need to be heavily medicated one way or another if they keep mutating him into all sorts of things. Poor guy! I wonder if these Kraang mutants keep their intelligence. Someone needs to hook them up with translators.

You mentioned the government covering stuff up, Wolf. I'm wondering if Kurtzman is going to join Earth Protection Force if he's not a part of it already.

[MrTMNT2012]

Well, this wasn't bad. It wasn't mindblowing, but that's mostly because it's coming at the heels of a largely mediocre season, which makes many of the beats here feel unearned. And while the show is getting much better at doing big set pieces--this finale could simply not have been done with season one's assets--even at its best, plenty feels sloppy. The series tries to sell us on a city-wide invasion, and yet the Leonardo vs. Foot scenes feature no signs of the Kraang. The E.P.F. are introduced, and then proceed to disappear from the plot, almost as if they had no purpose beyond being a nod. Kirby is having panic attacks, and yet has time to crack wise before getting mutated yet again so that he can be conveniently forgotten yet again. As soon as the Irma contrivance twist occurs, she is completely forgotten. The Kraang are a threat not because that's consistent with prior characterization, but because the show needs them to be a threat.



Why not?

Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of the appearance, as something that should have been important to the plot amounted to little more than a cameo. In the end, I'm kinda hoping that we don't see Bishop--I simply don't see him fitting in here. After all, the Kraang are hardly the smartest villains around, and we're already being shown that the E.P.F. as being rather useless against them. I don't think the show could write a villain that is actually smart.



The Northampton referred to in the Mirage comics and 4Kids toon was always the one in Massachusetts. The one from the first film might have been the New York one, but then again, I'm not sure if the farmhouse there had any specific location other than "not Manhattan".

I was expecting this as soon as Casey mentioned picking his family up, but I was still disappointed to see it happen. I am tired of April and Casey's invisible relatives. Also, is this the first time we've heard that Casey's mom isn't in the picture? That's tiring too.

The writers have never been consistent when it comes to the Kraang, and every detail about them has been contradicted at some point or another. Remember when they said that the problem with the mutagen was that it didn't work on Earth? The writers don't, as last episode had them somehow perfecting it while on Dimension X. Remember when April was an essential part of the entire process? Not so much, it turns out. The question you ask is an obvious one, and yet the show can't answer it, because the writers don't care.

It's sad that you were completely oblivious to everything good that happened this season as celebrated by this incredible finale and thus resorted to pure nitpicking.

Half of your points don't even make sense which is bad seeing how you're part of an invisible minority that desperately needs to give out constructive criticism for the show writers. I'm part of this minority as I don't feel Brandon Auman has been giving it his best and doesn't even hold a candle to Joshua Hamilton when it comes to writing in Cartoons!

There is a huge pacing issue and lack of psychological character development in the 2nd season which leads to many huge events (such as Karai's Vendetta) feeling insignificant. The comedy was resorted to toilet humour a lot of times and there were some cringe-worthy dialogue and casting decisions. The overall story needed more focusing and build-up, while fillers were needed to develop established minor characters instead of new ones like that forgettable ghost villain ripped off of that one cheesy 80's flick no one remembers!

But above all that, the Season 2 Finale managed to improve and deliver to gargantuan proportions with some of the show's most ingenious writing since Season 1. The character dilemmas were fully realised and recognisable, Leo & Don's clash of ideologies makes perfect sense and creates new pathways where their character arcs can go in Season 3 (which is more than I can say for the other episodes in Season 2). Raph and Mike shared a genuine reconciliation and worked to balance each other's feelings which showed more depth in both of them. Also, every character was given important tasks to do and there were real consequences to their actions, which is something Season 1 lacked. Even Shredder got humanising development traits where he truly cherishes his student like Splinter does the Turtles. It's these interesting dynamics that lead to the events in the finale (like Splinter Vs. Shredder) feeling more grounded and personal, thus more satisfying.

In my opinion, not only was this the best episode of the Season by far but the best episode in the entire series!

[Luckyday]

I was expecting this as soon as Casey mentioned picking his family up, but I was still disappointed to see it happen. I am tired of April and Casey's invisible relatives. Also, is this the first time we've heard that Casey's mom isn't in the picture? That's tiring too.

It feel very unrealistic. It could be the case that we're not suppose care about the parents and relatives but in this case it feels very unsettling.


The writers have never been consistent when it comes to the Kraang, and every detail about them has been contradicted at some point or another. Remember when they said that the problem with the mutagen was that it didn't work on Earth? The writers don't, as last episode had them somehow perfecting it while on Dimension X. Remember when April was an essential part of the entire process? Not so much, it turns out. The question you ask is an obvious one, and yet the show can't answer it, because the writers don't care.

I remember saying exactly how I would probably have to create a half ass reason why Kirby is a mutant again. Who would have guess that the show would do that for me..HA HA..heh..heh.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant.gif

But in all seriousness, this season was honestly all over the place. It was like it didn't know what it wanted to be but I'm hoping that since there is a setup for the next season, the show will have some consistency.

[CyberCubed]

I'm not even sure what Shredder is going to do now that the Kraang took over NYC.

[Luckyday]

I'm not even sure what Shredder is going to do now that the Kraang took over NYC.

Maybe he'll bring the big guns? Anybody up for a City at War arc?

[victory_angel]

So the Turtles, April, and Casey are for all intents and purposes orphans at this time. But as long as they had each other they should be able to come back stronger then ever.

But early on in the argument, Donnie says "If I were leader..." And Leo cuts him off by saying "Well your not leader, Donnie! I am!"

Does anyone have any guesses as to what Donnie would have done?

My guess is he would have said "I would have listened to what my followers had to tell me and then decide on the best course of action."

The entire argument both sides were valid. But Leo was insisting that his idea was the only course of action without considering Donnie's offering. And instead gave valid arguments about how the Turtle mech would not be helpful. Don't get me wrong I am aware that Donnie was doing the same thing by insisting the Turtle Mech was their only option. Siting that there wasn't enough time to create a second base when the invasion may very well be on their door step.

If the situation wasn't so stressful, perhaps they could have realized that they combined ideas. With the whole Donnie blaming himself from the moment Leo separates himself from the group. Ironically Donnie could have agreed with the second base idea and that separation would still have played out exactly the same way with Leo being ushered into a trap.

If you notice, no one appoints Donnie leader nor does anyone volunteer. Everyone just naturally turns to Donnie as the only level headed person in their present group. And it's shown that he listens to all the people under his care before making a decision on something.

[Megchan]

I'm a little more baffled at the logic here, so if the Kraang have been trying take over Earth since the dawn of mankind (and keep in mind, they're from a dimension where one year is an undefined number of decades, so it's even longer for them than us) why haven't they come close to conquer it until now?

Granted they are presented as being rather stupid seeing how many of their plans don't really make sense or are even done in a very effective manner. Having your leader run around, randomly shooting mutagen with a gun is hardly the optimal way for spreading it across the planet.

Because the Kraang needed the perfect string of DNA to perfect the mutagen.

[Rooish]

Wow. Geez. That was freaking awesome. I am a huge Mike/Raph and character development fan so this episode was like Christmas to me. Also a Karai fan. And a Leatherhead fan. The action was also amazing.

I do, however, agree with MrTMNT2012 and The Big Bad's criticism of this season as a whole. This episode felt almost like a different show to me. If only the writers try to maintain this quality, that would be great. I generally like Northampton arcs, but that's because they're usually character driven. If the show keeps that up we're good.

Kirby is a total spaz. Frustrating that he's mutated again. Also I am very pissed off that Irma is just a Kraang. She was a really good addition to the show.

Also I know its a kid's show but it seems like Leo, Leatherhead and Splinter should have been impaled, and were not. Shredder has those blades for a reason!

[JTH]

I'm willing to let the Kirby mutation slide because the whole city got mutated, so it doesn't make him look like the lone pitied fool in the show.

And I don't think anyone really thought that Kirby was going to be with them in Northampton.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if they'll get a new lair since the Kraang know where they live now. Probably someplace else in the sewers when they return.

[The Big Bad]

Because the Kraang needed the perfect string of DNA to perfect the mutagen.

They needed the mutagen to "kraangform" the planet. They did not need the mutagen to take over the planet. As far as we've been told, there was nothing stopping them from conquering Earth on say, the year 2134, B.C. and using the globe as a testing lab. In fact, we've seen them try to invade without perfect mutagen--that's what the previous finale was all about. So why then and not earlier?

ETA: A possible explanation would be a variation of what the 4Kids toon did with the Utroms, and explain that the Kraang for some reason needed human technology to get to certain level before it could be used to perfect the mutagen. Unfortunately, there's nothing in the actual cartoon to support something like that.

[Kilowog]

The writers have never been consistent when it comes to the Kraang, and every detail about them has been contradicted at some point or another. Remember when they said that the problem with the mutagen was that it didn't work on Earth? The writers don't, as last episode had them somehow perfecting it while on Dimension X. Remember when April was an essential part of the entire process? Not so much, it turns out. The question you ask is an obvious one, and yet the show can't answer it, because the writers don't care.
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Wait i thought they always said the mutagen didnt work the exact same way it does in Dimension X and that they were always working to tweak it. Hence why after decades of radio silence leatherhead contacted the turtles. As the Kraang finally figuring out how to make it work on earth was worth being detected.

Also i naturally assumed in the back of my head that capturing April and using her magic fairy dust or whatever was Plan A. That if they succeded in capturing her, it didn't matter if they fixed the mutagen or even invaded with a full army, they would instantly win.

With finally perfecting the Mutagen and invading with actual troops being Plan B. Hence why Irma didnt just snatch April the first time they were alone. After millennia of just... waiting for this perfect DNA person or whatever, they got complacent and expected an easy win. So once theu got thwarted once they finally decided to not continue with the same plan. Maybe it's just me but i liked that, showed the kraang at least marginally capable of planning things ahead of time.

I just kind of naturally inferred this, chalking it up to the writers not wanting to bluntly state EVERYTHING. I don't get the feel that they don't care in the slightest, i just see them naturally hobbled by having to fill out 26 episode seasons



Am I the only one who thought Shredder looked a bit grieved after throwing Splinter into the water and walking away? I think there's a chance we'll see some character development on his part.

What DOES a dog do once its caught the car?

[Filespit]

Oh my word! This episode(s) was nothing short of a masterpiece! It was epic in every way. It had action, drama, love and a cliffhanger!

I really loved the tone of this episode, the action was brutal and not like anything we've seen from the Turtles on the screen before. Watching Leatherhead chomp on Shredder had me almost shocked! Further, I absolutely loved the references to the comic books with Leo almost being beaten to death and how they escape to Northampton. But the high point in this episode was the Mike/Raph-hug, how Mikey in such a heated situation convinces Raph that everything will be ok in the end. This sure is setting up nicely for season 3.

Speaking of season 3, I hope they don't rush the Turtles' return to NYC. I want them to spend as much time as possible at Northampton, it could really make for some great character development. I suppose we'll have lots of more references to the comic books in this season.

[Vicky82]

I've seen The Invasion 5 times already today and I still cry at the emotional scene between Mikey and Raph. :cry:

I hope Ciro and the team do more scenes like this.

[Allio]

calling it now

do not trust his lies

http://i.imgur.com/XO4Xsq0.png

[neatoman]

calling it now

do not trust his lies

http://i.imgur.com/XO4Xsq0.png

That's... Interesting... It might have been unintentional but who knows...

[Allio]

EPF = Bishop? Why would it have the same exact name when it could have been any other government agents?

It could of easily have been Rook

[Vicky82]

Got this from Tumblr

Comparing shots of The Invasion with Mirage Leo 1

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[TurtleTitan97]

Got this from Tumblr

Comparing shots of The Invasion with Mirage Leo 1

https://33.media.tumblr.com/db924e8c300190b93842249130d16300/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso5_500.jpg

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Amazing! It really goes to show just how big a fan that Ciro and the Nick crew really are.

[Gunpowder]

Got this from Tumblr

Comparing shots of The Invasion with Mirage Leo 1

https://33.media.tumblr.com/db924e8c300190b93842249130d16300/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso5_500.jpg

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That's legitimately awesome.

[Pizzalover94]

This was the best episode of the entire series IMO. Ciro and company always offer us hints on possible twists, but the Irma reveal still surprised me. In the Ho-Chan episode, I though the bit with Irma having a special power was a reference to the green-eyed girl in Big Trouble in Little China. Double meaning there. Anyways, I cannot wait for more episodes. I wonder what younger fans thought of this episode. I really like how Mikey is growing up and maturing. I also like the IDW reference in how Donnie and Leo went at it, rather than Leo and Raph. Some people may not like this episode and series, and that is okay. You can never please everyone. Great job Ciro and crew!

[CyberCubed]

Amazing! It really goes to show just how big a fan that Ciro and the Nick crew really are.

But they didn't show the shop burn down, which is really disappointing. I was expecting something similar to the 4kids episode and first movie.

[drgon78]

I can't wait to see the next season.

[Pizzalover94]

But they didn't show the shop burn down, which is really disappointing. I was expecting something similar to the 4kids episode and first movie.

They have never even mentioned the shop by name in this series. How is the shop not burning down really disappointing? Everything else was in flames. I am not trying to be mean, but if you are going to complain, make it a valid reason. This is a total nitpick.

Edit: I respect how you feel, but I want to stand up for Ciro and crew, as I feel that they get far too much flak. This is a show made for little kids, and not for adults. Thank goodness it is not like most other shows on Nick (discounting Legend of Korra). I feel that Ciro and crew have fought to keep the toilet humor and stupidity to a minimum. It is a great show IMO. :)

[TurtleTitan97]

But they didn't show the shop burn down, which is really disappointing. I was expecting something similar to the 4kids episode and first movie.

Yeah, so? I'm just saying it's cool how some of the scene from the episode are borrowed from the Leo one-shot.

[CyberCubed]

They have never even mentioned the shop by name in this series. How is the shop not burning down really disappointing? Everything else was in flames. I am not trying to be mean, but if you are going to complain, make it a valid reason. This is a total nitpick.

The camera pans the outside of the shop showing it as, "Second Time About." I was hoping to see the classic shop burning up.

[Pizzalover94]

The camera pans the outside of the shop showing it as, "Second Time About." I was hoping to see the classic shop burning up.

I'll give you this; it would have a been a nice homage if the shop burned down. But I am just saying that it is not a big deal, to me at least. I hope that my earlier comments did not seem mean. I just like talking turtles you know. :)

[Icebot]

This episode blew me away, I never expected the events that happened!

I was disappointed to see Irma is one of the Kraang. I mean I liked Shredder being an Utrom in the 4kids cartoon but seeing Irma like that made me understand why some don't like Shredder being an Utrom. I wanted Irma to be real.

Loved all the comparable events to the 4kids series! As Leonardo was injured, he crashed right through the window and now they're escaping to Northhampton. And the Earth Protection Force: does anyone think we'll see Agent Bishop? I hope he turns it into the Pan Galactic Alliance!

[ssjup81]

But they didn't show the shop burn down, which is really disappointing. I was expecting something similar to the 4kids episode and first movie.Does it matter? I didn't even notice the shop because it hasn't been referenced in this series. They got the stuff with Leo, though which is way more significant.

[Coola Yagami]

Does April and her dad even run that shop in this version? If not, then it really doesn't make sense for the Foot to waste time burning down some random building. In the comic it was because April and the Turtles were actually there and it was basically her home. I know it woulda been a homage, but in the series within itself it would look stupid, them just burning some random building down for ***** and giggles.

[evan2000]

I went ahead and created more comparison shots with the Leo one-shot comic, in color! I also included all those posted by Vicky82 earlier.

http://i.imgur.com/HcRiY3E.png

http://i.imgur.com/zWj7e6s.png

http://i.imgur.com/Yohm95n.png

http://i.imgur.com/SgNlabi.png

http://i.imgur.com/HeMhT6M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UMCfkBW.png

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http://i.imgur.com/3Xad81u.png

[evan2000]

http://i.imgur.com/hNVc6Rq.png

http://i.imgur.com/dGIkbiO.png

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http://i.imgur.com/JeFDxSx.png

http://i.imgur.com/ElwNrtg.png

http://i.imgur.com/MSSvgCg.png

http://i.imgur.com/HrqzjSl.png

http://i.imgur.com/LT9W6ty.png

http://i.imgur.com/7s1BkAJ.png

[ssjup81]

Got this from Tumblr

Comparing shots of The Invasion with Mirage Leo 1

https://33.media.tumblr.com/db924e8c300190b93842249130d16300/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso5_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/00ef6efefcd9336c716c5233b086841e/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso2_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/a8d0b618e1118048dc89e0f9b9b82018/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso3_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/2d1a5ce601e496a8de052ccfc75da293/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso4_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/8f229cff8a40b9a91ba730aa83b3be4f/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso7_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/6d08026b1939f159c0ee16c0b4aa5d59/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso10_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/63a3942e5763e7e2c0a4afc9bdee9669/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso8_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/fab6c86e13cd7b7e7fab830ed9fe922c/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso9_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/afdbe350c8086372edd0a558d57034ea/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso6_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/7722482136a94230db9533951b0bfaa2/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso1_500.jpgThis is beyond awesome!

[The Big Bad]

Wait i thought they always said the mutagen didnt work the exact same way it does in Dimension X and that they were always working to tweak it.

Yes. My point is that if it always worked in Dimension X, it makes no sense to test it in Dimension X and then claim it now works. It's like growing a potato on Earth and then claiming you can now do it on Mars.

Also i naturally assumed in the back of my head that capturing April and using her magic fairy dust or whatever was Plan A. That if they succeded in capturing her, it didn't matter if they fixed the mutagen or even invaded with a full army, they would instantly win. Except they have captured her--several times. And they've mentioned several times that capturing her is less about using her powers and more about perfecting the dang mutagen.

With finally perfecting the Mutagen and invading with actual troops being Plan B. Hence why Irma didnt just snatch April the first time they were alone. After millennia of just... waiting for this perfect DNA person or whatever, they got complacent and expected an easy win. So once theu got thwarted once they finally decided to not continue with the same plan. Maybe it's just me but i liked that, showed the kraang at least marginally capable of planning things ahead of time.

I'm not sure I follow. Given how long they've been at the perfecting mutagen business and how random the process seems to be--we don't see the dang thing becoming more stable over time--there's no way succeeding isn't, essentially, a random occurrence. No matter how many times they failed at getting April, getting her was always going to be more cost-effective than more random trying—especially since a) they can easily do both at the same time, and b) the more they wait to catch April, the higher the chance that she'll just eventually end up dying, meaning they'd have to wait more millennia for their perfect match. It makes no sense that they'd have an asset like Irma and not use her to, as you say, kidnap her when she's alone.

I just kind of naturally inferred this, chalking it up to the writers not wanting to bluntly state EVERYTHING.

This isn't EVERYTHING, though—it's a change in what has been one of the more consistent bits of series lore. What's more, the weird thing isn't that April turned out to be not as important as advertised, but that what should have been treated as a game-changer goes completely unremarked. Even April-obsessed Donatello apparently has nothing to say about the fact that kidnapping April was apparently optional.

[OrangeNinja1987]

I loved the finale! I just was disappointed about Irma being fake (and for the life of me, I cannot stop thinking of Iago from Aladdin whenever that stupid Kraang speaks! His voice is too distinctive.)
Maybe there is a real Irma and the Kraang replaced her with a robot after season 1's finale to spy on April? Maybe the real Irma is a test subject for the Kraang or something. I know this is unlikely but I really liked Irma in this series, until she turned into a backwards Utrom-Shredder thing and her head chased the turtles around the Lair.
I'm watching the 2003 series and I'm on episode 10 of season 2, so I don't know who this Bishop everyone is mentioning is, but I hope he turns up. This show is rich with awesome references to the comics and 1987, but 2003 is a major TMNT iteration as well and deserves it fair share of references. If this TMNT wants to reference other versions, it should spread them out to all TMNT, not just two versions.
I absolutely loved the Shredder/Splinter fight. It was touching to see Karai saved her father. There's still a little bit of her left, enough to recognize him.
I'm hoping Casey's sister is Angel. Just 'cuz.
My favorite part is when Mikey hugged Raphael. My runner-up would be Leonardo's fight, but I wish it got a bit more focus and that Shredder actually gave Leo the huge beat down rather than one fatal slice. Just a nitpick, though.
Overall, I'd give this a 9/10. I've seen better episodes but this is up there in the greats. Shows like Legend of Korra and TMNT are beautiful anomalies for Nick.

[Machias Banshee]

Well, I tried Zane's suggestion for the video, but I still can't get it. Friday's a looong ways away... :(

But... looking at the comments in this thread, I can't wait to see them in Northampton!

For those that don't know, Northampton is a medium sized town in western Massachusetts with a lot of wilderness around it (kinda like Dover, here). The boys are gonna have all sorts of places to wander around. There's multiple state parks and reservoirs, a lot of forested areas...

[Foombamaroom]

I don't know if this show can pull off Bishop, but if they can I will love them forever. After this finale, Bishop wouldn't be the most unusual character to bring into the show. Bishop was hands down my favorite villain of the 2003 series, so I'm hoping they bring him in. Once they said "Earth Defense Force" I took it as a homage to Bishop.

Maybe he'll bring the big guns? Anybody up for a City at War arc? I'm hoping we get something among those lines, but not like what went on in the comics. I'm hoping for an original way for them to get Splinter back.

[ssjup81]

I loved the finale! I just was disappointed about Irma being fake (and for the life of me, I cannot stop thinking of Iago from Aladdin whenever that stupid Kraang speaks! His voice is too distinctive.)
Maybe there is a real Irma and the Kraang replaced her with a robot after season 1's finale to spy on April? Maybe the real Irma is a test subject for the Kraang or something. I know this is unlikely but I really liked Irma in this series, until she turned into a backwards Utrom-Shredder thing and her head chased the turtles around the Lair.
I'm watching the 2003 series and I'm on episode 10 of season 2, so I don't know who this Bishop everyone is mentioning is, but I hope he turns up. This show is rich with awesome references to the comics and 1987, but 2003 is a major TMNT iteration as well and deserves it fair share of references. If this TMNT wants to reference other versions, it should spread them out to all TMNT, not just two versions.
I absolutely loved the Shredder/Splinter fight. It was touching to see Karai saved her father. There's still a little bit of her left, enough to recognize him.
I'm hoping Casey's sister is Angel. Just 'cuz.
My favorite part is when Mikey hugged Raphael. My runner-up would be Leonardo's fight, but I wish it got a bit more focus and that Shredder actually gave Leo the huge beat down rather than one fatal slice. Just a nitpick, though.
Overall, I'd give this a 9/10. I've seen better episodes but this is up there in the greats. Shows like Legend of Korra and TMNT are beautiful anomalies for Nick.I kinda want Irma to be real as well, but if she was replaced, I think it would've been the time right before Irma started asking about April's secret friends. I'm just not convinced that Irma in that Rat King ep was a Kraang...but I know I could be wrong. We'll see.Perhaps, to me the only possible recourse to why April stopped him on the positive aspect, is she doesn't want him to reveal something that should bring happiness and light to them in a time of darkness and chaos, thus never being able to cherish it the same.

But I think the line when April says, "You shouldn't talk, it just makes things hurt more." is a telling sign.

Since both April and Donnie pinned the invasion on themselves during the duration of the episode, maybe they will still bond eventually for both know what the other is going through playing the self-blame game and will both want to be there for each other. But obviously still too soon to tell.This is an interesting interpretation.

I don't know why, but maybe the creators are trying to give us hints into the minds of Casey and Donnie and how they view her via artwork. In Donnie's illustration, he views April as one of them in terms of fighting and team work. In Casey's graffiti, Casey seems to view April as more of a, damsel in distress (his pic was actually similar to the original cover of Star Wars ANH!)Good catch. So I guess you could say that Casey views April as someone who needs protecting while Donnie maybe sees her as someone capable of handling herself.

[Donatello19]

Am I the only one who's disappointed about Irma? I actually really liked this new version of her...I was hoping that the robot was a decoy Irma and the the Kraang had kidnapped the real one or something.

Leo was so frickin' awesome in this episode! His fight scenes were just epic. Same with the Shredder and Splinter fights, and Leatherhead too!

I can't believe they lost Kirby AGAIN. April didn't even seem to really care this time...

[Powder]

http://i.imgur.com/hNVc6Rq.png

http://i.imgur.com/dGIkbiO.png

http://i.imgur.com/zsttQVf.png

http://i.imgur.com/JeFDxSx.png

http://i.imgur.com/ElwNrtg.png

http://i.imgur.com/MSSvgCg.png

http://i.imgur.com/HrqzjSl.png

http://i.imgur.com/LT9W6ty.png

http://i.imgur.com/7s1BkAJ.png

Why the HELL are their masks not red? Did IDW seriously print this? Holy sh*t.

[ssjup81]

Am I the only one who's disappointed about Irma? I actually really liked this new version of her...I was hoping that the robot was a decoy Irma and the the Kraang had kidnapped the real one or something.No, just read through, quite a few are.

Personally, when first watching, I was like, "I wonder where the real Irma is." I feel that she was probably replaced the time right before she started asking about April's secret friends.

Irma was around prior to "the invasion known as the invasion" in season 1. She tried calling April in that Mousers ep. They could've gotten her back then much easier and if Irma was around specifically to spy on April, seems she would've been around after that first TCRI ep when April sent in her DNA, not before...unless I'm mixing up the episode order.

[Gorilla Grodd]

Just watched the episode. MAN. So many feels. I loved this episode to pieces. The Leo one-shot scenes. The Splinter/Shredder battle. Leatherhead. The Mikey/Raph bro-hug. Just from top to bottom it's probably my favorite episode of the entire series. Although maybe I'm just still kind of buzzing from the 40 minute geek out I was having while watching it.

[blindturtle02]

No, just read through, quite a few are.

Personally, when first watching, I was like, "I wonder where the real Irma is." I feel that she was probably replaced the time right before she started asking about April's secret friends.

Irma was around prior to "the invasion known as the invasion" in season 1. She tried calling April in that Mousers ep. They could've gotten her back then much easier and if Irma was around specifically to spy on April, seems she would've been around after that first TCRI ep when April sent in her DNA, not before...unless I'm mixing up the episode order.

I hope there's a real Irma out there too. I think my family is still freaked out! haha I loved that twist, but great to have my memory refreshed concerning the phone call. I'd miss a tun of visual stuff if it weren't for everyone in the drome. I wonder if actual Irma is imprisoned with April's mom somewhere. They might have been keeping her around so Kraang subprime could check in on her from time to time in order to get her mannerisms down. I refuse to believe there was never an Irma until someone on board the Nick show confirms it. With my luck, they'll be like,"Oh there was, but then she met the Kraang!" Anyone else flash back to the 90's Spider-Man cartoon while watching this? You know what I'm talking about if you did.

[Bry]

So that was pretty freakin' great. This season was a bit uneven at points, but it ended really strong.

This finale had huge stakes, great action (and both the larger-than-life stuff and the more "grounded" ninja battles), solid humour, actual character development, and lots of emotion and pathos. A certain movie producer should be taking notes.

Got this from Tumblr

Comparing shots of The Invasion with Mirage Leo 1

https://33.media.tumblr.com/db924e8c300190b93842249130d16300/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso5_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/00ef6efefcd9336c716c5233b086841e/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso2_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/a8d0b618e1118048dc89e0f9b9b82018/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso3_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/2d1a5ce601e496a8de052ccfc75da293/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso4_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/8f229cff8a40b9a91ba730aa83b3be4f/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso7_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/6d08026b1939f159c0ee16c0b4aa5d59/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso10_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/63a3942e5763e7e2c0a4afc9bdee9669/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso8_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/fab6c86e13cd7b7e7fab830ed9fe922c/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso9_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/afdbe350c8086372edd0a558d57034ea/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso6_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/7722482136a94230db9533951b0bfaa2/tumblr_nc7wy2Bt8L1selbgso1_500.jpg
I went ahead and created more comparison shots with the Leo one-shot comic, in color! I also included all those posted by Vicky82 earlier.

http://i.imgur.com/HcRiY3E.png

http://i.imgur.com/zWj7e6s.png

http://i.imgur.com/Yohm95n.png

http://i.imgur.com/SgNlabi.png

http://i.imgur.com/HeMhT6M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UMCfkBW.png

http://i.imgur.com/8M4tgNJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/OQKyYxw.png

http://i.imgur.com/3Xad81u.png
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http://i.imgur.com/dGIkbiO.png

http://i.imgur.com/zsttQVf.png

http://i.imgur.com/JeFDxSx.png

http://i.imgur.com/ElwNrtg.png

http://i.imgur.com/MSSvgCg.png

http://i.imgur.com/HrqzjSl.png

http://i.imgur.com/LT9W6ty.png

http://i.imgur.com/7s1BkAJ.png

SO GOOD. Just... wow. I like how Ciro and his team are folding in elements from the entire history of the franchise (like the Earth Protection Force - the 2003 series isn't forgotten!) while maintaining a really strong respect/reverence for the original comics. I was just stunned watching all of those individual panels come to life. This is a show basically custom-made for me to love.

Why the HELL are their masks not red? Did IDW seriously print this? Holy sh*t.

Also this. I haven't been following their colour reprints (as I have the old First Publishing collections) but I thought they were preserving the red bandanas?

Am I the only one who's disappointed about Irma? I actually really liked this new version of her...I was hoping that the robot was a decoy Irma and the the Kraang had kidnapped the real one or something.

I kind of loved that. It was totally unexpected. My wife was very upset about it. Always possible there's a "real Irma" still out there, maybe?

And I love how they're casting celebrities with famously annoying voices to be higher-level Kraang. Next season: Fran Drescher?

I can't believe they lost Kirby AGAIN. April didn't even seem to really care this time...

Well, there was a lot going on. I'm sure they'll follow up with how she's feeling more next season. It's a time of crisis, so having to put her emotions aside in order to get through it makes sense.

And I thought Kirby's Kraang-related PTSD was a nice touch. He's been through a ton, and this sort of thing is still well outside of his "world", so that made a lot of sense.

[Metalwolf]

I'm not even sure what Shredder is going to do now that the Kraang took over NYC.I think he'll be waiting on the Kraang to demutate Karai. I think that is the only thing he cares about at this point, as everything else is expendable.

I think the Foot will start to fracture at this point, since the main drive was Splinter and the Turtles, and without them, tempers will flare. We'll hopefully also see who still has their humanity, especially once the full effect of what the Kraang are doing sinks in.

Hippie Kirby... Yeah he's gonna need to be heavily medicated one way or another if they keep mutating him into all sorts of things. Poor guy! I wonder if these Kraang mutants keep their intelligence. Someone needs to hook them up with translators.

You mentioned the government covering stuff up, Wolf. I'm wondering if Kurtzman is going to join Earth Protection Force if he's not a part of it already.I think the Kraang mutants are almost mindless, they don't seem to be all that intelligent.

It's possible Kurtzman might do that, but I'm still hoping that he's a good-guy Kraang. It would be cool if he is one that opposed the invasion.

[Bry]

It's possible Kurtzman might do that, but I'm still hoping that he's a good-guy Kraang. It would be cool if he is one that opposed the invasion.

Or... an Utrom? I know I've said this before, but I love the idea of the Kraang being an extremist cult banished to Dimension X by the benevolent Utrom race. We could have it both ways!

[Coola Yagami]

http://i.imgur.com/hNVc6Rq.png

http://i.imgur.com/dGIkbiO.png

http://i.imgur.com/zsttQVf.png

http://i.imgur.com/JeFDxSx.png

http://i.imgur.com/ElwNrtg.png

http://i.imgur.com/MSSvgCg.png

http://i.imgur.com/HrqzjSl.png

http://i.imgur.com/LT9W6ty.png

http://i.imgur.com/7s1BkAJ.png

Is that official IDW color reprints? When did they start coloring the masks... and why?

[CyberCubed]

That's not IDW. All the Mirage reprints keep their red bandana's.

[Gorilla Grodd]

At one point the comic scanners were editing the early issues of the IDW book to replace the red with blue, orange, and purple when appropriate. It's possible those images were taken from those edits.

[Kilowog]

Yes. My point is that if it always worked in Dimension X, it makes no sense to test it in Dimension X and then claim it now works. It's like growing a potato on Earth and then claiming you can now do it on Mars.

I'm sure that in that testing room they used the horse **** principle to make it earth like through the dangerous bull **** process with buffalo **** as an important catalyst in the process [/speculating about made up science]




Except they have captured her--several times. And they've mentioned several times that capturing her is less about using her powers and more about perfecting the dang mutagen.


I'm not sure I follow. Given how long they've been at the perfecting mutagen business and how random the process seems to be--we don't see the dang thing becoming more stable over time--there's no way succeeding isn't, essentially, a random occurrence. No matter how many times they failed at getting April, getting her was always going to be more cost-effective than more random trying—especially since a) they can easily do both at the same time, and b) the more they wait to catch April, the higher the chance that she'll just eventually end up dying, meaning they'd have to wait more millennia for their perfect match. It makes no sense that they'd have an asset like Irma and not use her to, as you say, kidnap her when she's alone.
I dunno, I just got the vibe that after waiting FOREVER for what they saw as a no effort win they decided to not do the exact same thing?

Sort of like just flipping the checkers board over when you get King Me'd


Am I the only one who's disappointed about Irma?

NOPE!



I can't believe they lost Kirby AGAIN. April didn't even seem to really care this time...I kind of chuckled at her exasperated "NOT AGAIN"

Why the HELL are their masks not red? Did IDW seriously print this? Holy sh*t.

Color Classics issue I have has red bandana for leo. So either A). they changed this for The Works (which seems straight up illogical even for IDW), B). this is from mirage's recoloring from right before the buy out (never read those but I've heard almost as many complaints as I have for IDW's Classics TPB reprints) or C). this is some kind of fan recoloring

Whichever you think fits better into your world view :lol:

[Bry]

At one point the comic scanners were editing the early issues of the IDW book to replace the red with blue, orange, and purple when appropriate. It's possible those images were taken from those edits.

To those scanners:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/86f9859f34aed8a6ba7db31fd80dbc53/tumblr_inline_mq3e16moUi1qz4rgp.gif

[Powder]

At one point the comic scanners were editing the early issues of the IDW book to replace the red with blue, orange, and purple when appropriate. It's possible those images were taken from those edits.

"When appropriate"? No such thing. They should be thrown into a pit of flaming spikes.

[snake]

I went ahead and created more comparison shots with the Leo one-shot comic, in color! I also included all those posted by Vicky82 earlier.

http://i.imgur.com/HcRiY3E.png

http://i.imgur.com/zWj7e6s.png

http://i.imgur.com/Yohm95n.png

http://i.imgur.com/SgNlabi.png

http://i.imgur.com/HeMhT6M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UMCfkBW.png

http://i.imgur.com/8M4tgNJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/OQKyYxw.png

http://i.imgur.com/3Xad81u.png

These are from the color classics, right? I can see why they aren't that popular, no red masks and odd coloring.

[Kilowog]

"When appropriate"? No such thing. They should be thrown into a pit of flaming spikes.

Should the spikes be coated in burning oil or acid?

These are from the color classics, right? I can see why they aren't that popular, no red masks and odd coloring.

read up, fan recoloring of the color classics

[snake]

Should the spikes be coated in burning oil or acid?



read up, fan recoloring of the color classics

Ah. Okay. Still pretty dumb about the masks.

[Warhorse]

Great episode! I loved that Mikey was a bit more mature and the Mikey and Raph moments were great. But that Leo one-shot was by far the highlight of the episode for me. I only wish they had Leo actually take on Shredder, but I was still satisfied enough.

The only really big lackluster for me is when Raph was calling Shredder a monster. I was really hoping Raph was gonna somehow break the cage down and attack Shredder with his brothers.

Overall, favorite episode of the show, even beating out Vengeance is Mine.

I really, really hope they have Raphael hanging on to that anger and rage at seeing his older brother and master being beaten at the hands of Shredder, and he is the one at the end of season three or four that finally loses it and goes absolutely berserk on Shredder!

With how pissed off he was about Splinter, you think they might write in the Mirage story where he wanted to go back to NYC to go after Shredder, Leo tried to stop him and Raph threw him through a wall, knocking him out?

XD I liked Casey's graffiti version of April :D
https://38.media.tumblr.com/4db4e0d3d45371c6a033a12efcaaf9df/tumblr_nc6n9ix5Kf1rm530ho2_400.gif

It still reminds me of the poster from Star Wars in a way.

http://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/shop/media/gbu0/prodsm/swjapanb2seitosmall.jpg

[Gorilla Grodd]

With how pissed off he was about Splinter, you think they might write in the Mirage story where he wanted to go back to NYC to go after Shredder, Leo tried to stop him and Raph threw him through a wall, knocking him out?

I think there's a very good chance we will see something like this.

[madyankees]

Wow...Love this.

Love the reference to the comics but I thought the 2003 cartoon pulled off the "Leo is down and all hell breaks loose" a little better. Glad they got rid of Irma. Never did like her character. Ditto for Kirby.

[Warhorse]

I loved the finale! I just was disappointed about Irma being fake (and for the life of me, I cannot stop thinking of Iago from Aladdin whenever that stupid Kraang speaks! His voice is too distinctive.)
Maybe there is a real Irma and the Kraang replaced her with a robot after season 1's finale to spy on April? Maybe the real Irma is a test subject for the Kraang or something. I know this is unlikely but I really liked Irma in this series, until she turned into a backwards Utrom-Shredder thing and her head chased the turtles around the Lair.
I'm watching the 2003 series and I'm on episode 10 of season 2, so I don't know who this Bishop everyone is mentioning is, but I hope he turns up. This show is rich with awesome references to the comics and 1987, but 2003 is a major TMNT iteration as well and deserves it fair share of references. If this TMNT wants to reference other versions, it should spread them out to all TMNT, not just two versions.
I absolutely loved the Shredder/Splinter fight. It was touching to see Karai saved her father. There's still a little bit of her left, enough to recognize him.
I'm hoping Casey's sister is Angel. Just 'cuz.
My favorite part is when Mikey hugged Raphael. My runner-up would be Leonardo's fight, but I wish it got a bit more focus and that Shredder actually gave Leo the huge beat down rather than one fatal slice. Just a nitpick, though.
Overall, I'd give this a 9/10. I've seen better episodes but this is up there in the greats. Shows like Legend of Korra and TMNT are beautiful anomalies for Nick.

Bishop is a badass! He is a government agent who is a master in fighting and psychology. He's tough, smart and wicked when he fights and can go toe to toe with the Turtles and Shredder. He kind of reminds me of a sinister version of Captain America in a way.

n9HeUSNDepg

I hope there's a real Irma out there too. I think my family is still freaked out! haha I loved that twist, but great to have my memory refreshed concerning the phone call. I'd miss a tun of visual stuff if it weren't for everyone in the drome. I wonder if actual Irma is imprisoned with April's mom somewhere. They might have been keeping her around so Kraang subprime could check in on her from time to time in order to get her mannerisms down. I refuse to believe there was never an Irma until someone on board the Nick show confirms it. With my luck, they'll be like,"Oh there was, but then she met the Kraang!" Anyone else flash back to the 90's Spider-Man cartoon while watching this? You know what I'm talking about if you did.

That would be a real sweet twist. Not to mention, there was something about Irma being a potential "friend" for Mikey. I don't know where that started, but many were on board for Mikey to finally have a friend he could talk to and have fun with like his brothers have.

[Luckyday]

That would be a real sweet twist. Not to mention, there was something about Irma being a potential "friend" for Mikey. I don't know where that started, but many were on board for Mikey to finally have a friend he could talk to and have fun with like his brothers have.

I think I may have maybe cause that rumor. It was off handed comment from Cipes that I took as Gospel.:tanime:

[ssjup81]

Bishop is a badass! He is a government agent who is a master in fighting and psychology. He's tough, smart and wicked when he fights and can go toe to toe with the Turtles and Shredder. He kind of reminds me of a sinister version of Captain America in a way.

n9HeUSNDepg



That would be a real sweet twist. Not to mention, there was something about Irma being a potential "friend" for Mikey. I don't know where that started, but many were on board for Mikey to finally have a friend he could talk to and have fun with like his brothers have.I would be all for this.

Ironically Black Nerd was the one who finally piqued my interest enough to give this series a shot, and it was because he mentioned Irma. So yeah, Irma is the reason I started watching this show.

I really liked Irma.

[Warhorse]

I would be all for this.

Ironically Black Nerd was the one who finally piqued my interest enough to give this series a shot, and it was because he mentioned Irma. So yeah, Irma is the reason I started watching this show.

I really liked Irma.

I hate to say this, but I've liked most of the other females in this show except for April! April has her moments, but I don't like how she keeps stringing both Casey and Donnie along. Irma was cool (right now, I am hoping that she was still the regular Irma up until maybe shortly after Rats and Men) and Karai was just beginning to get interesting, and hell, even the one shot of the little girl Leo had tea with was adorable, it's a bit of a let down that the girls who are barely in the show seem to have more likable personalities than April.

There's a strong chance the real Irma is out there, hell, we already seen the same scenario played out with April, during a Kraang Conspiracy with the mulitple Aprils and the real one. Irma is probably in the same boat. (I hope)

I am curious to what's going to happen now between April, Raph and Leo, because of what happened to Splinter. Both brothers are deeply close to Splinter, Raphael probably doesn't even know about April bringing in the decoy, and when he finds out, he's probably going to flip his lid. Leo might even be worse, because he got his beat down resulting in April's mistake, and he might hold her responsible in a way.

Then, poor Raph, it was nice to see him taking his brother's side when Casey was asking all of those questions about April, what will Raph do when he sees Casey is blatantly making moves on April, maybe April is responding in kind, all in front of Donnie, Raphael might just get a bit overprotective and lash out at the two.

[Juanita27]

The episode had it's surprises (Irma, EPF), exciting fight scenes, and I was loving the 2k3 vibes, but on the other hand it was too similar to the season 1 finale- with the Kraang invasion and the "boss fight" of Splinter vs Shredder and Kirby mutated again. Also, as in the last season finale, it seemed Donnie and Mikey's roles were smaller compared to other characters and other episodes, but maybe that's me.

Raph had a good showing in this episode, some character development other than "raph has anger issues", which was nice for a change.

Unsure why Leo would go off solo to fight the Shredder instead of meeting up with his bro's during an alien invasion, but when he was sliding down that construction site's slope it reminded me of the last fight scene in Star Wars Episode III. But Leo going off solo led to a cool fight sequence, so worked out ;P

I don't think if Donnie had listened to Leo that it would have stopped the invasion- arg, I dislike when the show's writers lay him with a major guilt trip. Maybe Leo should have learned the lesson he was meant to in "metalhead rewired" and trust Donnie.

So excited for the tiny prospect of Bishop! He was the bad guy I loved to hate in 2k3. Prob won't happen in this show (as my dream of don x irma and thus a jealous april won't happen), but it's nice to hope.

[victory_angel]

Unsure why Leo would go off solo to fight the Shredder instead of meeting up with his bro's during an alien invasion, but when he was sliding down that construction site's slope it reminded me of the last fight scene in Star Wars Episode III. But Leo going off solo led to a cool fight sequence, so worked out ;P


The Kraang were luring Leo into the fight with the Shredder. And as the Shredder said, he was young and over confident.

I don't think if Donnie had listened to Leo that it would have stopped the invasion- arg, I dislike when the show's writers lay him with a major guilt trip. Maybe Leo should have learned the lesson he was meant to in "metalhead rewired" and trust Donnie.

Maybe that was what Donnie was going to say when he said "If I was leader..." before Leo cut Donnie off and said "Well you're not leader, I am"

Perhaps Donnie had was going to say "I would trust my followers and listen to their suggestions." Which was what Leo was not doing.

[Luke795]

Well, I tried Zane's suggestion for the video, but I still can't get it. Friday's a looong ways away... :(

But... looking at the comments in this thread, I can't wait to see them in Northampton!

For those that don't know, Northampton is a medium sized town in western Massachusetts with a lot of wilderness around it (kinda like Dover, here). The boys are gonna have all sorts of places to wander around. There's multiple state parks and reservoirs, a lot of forested areas...

You can watch it on iTunes too.

[Powder]

Not for free...

[Luke795]

Not for free...

Internet and cable TV isn't free either.

[Powder]

You know damn well what I mean, ball buster.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I really, really hope they have Raphael hanging on to that anger and rage at seeing his older brother and master being beaten at the hands of Shredder, and he is the one at the end of season three or four that finally loses it and goes absolutely berserk on Shredder!

With how pissed off he was about Splinter, you think they might write in the Mirage story where he wanted to go back to NYC to go after Shredder, Leo tried to stop him and Raph threw him through a wall, knocking him out?


Honestly, I would love to see that. BUT...

I would bet money that they won't do that at all.

Instead they'll disregard/ignore it and won't give Raph anything that worthwhile to do (considering how they've been using Raph so far in this series).

To be honest, the only thing good stuff that they're doing with Raphael so far is the bond that Raph & Mikey share with each other.

[Enscripture]

I actually liked this one. I hated stupid Irma sounding EXACTLY like dumbass sponge bob April's horrible VA and stupid Kirby. All 3 of them are annoying. The Leo part bored me. I was looking at my toenails like okay. He gonna fight anything except stupid footbots? Yawn. I was hoping they'd go with serious Mikey after the last episode cause his stupidity is getting old already. I don't get why everybody loves Bishop so much but! The E.P.F. The stupid humans actually doing something was a surprise EXCEPT, like everybody mentions, the whole city is deserted when the Kraang invades except for random cars. I HATE people like Irma and Donatello that try to show their stupid asshole superior intellect when somebody says something wrong, those jackasses go out of their way to make you feel stupid as hell.

[Shark_Blade]

I think they handled Raph just fine.

I don't understand why some fans just wants him on PMS all the time.

[evan2000]

Whoa, didn't expect to run into such sensitive topic, but:

Why the HELL are their masks not red? Did IDW seriously print this? Holy sh*t.

They didn't.

Also this. I haven't been following their colour reprints (as I have the old First Publishing collections) but I thought they were preserving the red bandanas?

Yep you're right.

Is that official IDW color reprints? When did they start coloring the masks... and why?

It's not and they didn't, calm down! :trazz:

That's not IDW. All the Mirage reprints keep their red bandana's.

Yes.

Color Classics issue I have has red bandana for leo. So either A). they changed this for The Works (which seems straight up illogical even for IDW), B). this is from mirage's recoloring from right before the buy out (never read those but I've heard almost as many complaints as I have for IDW's Classics TPB reprints) or C). this is some kind of fan recoloring

Whichever you think fits better into your world view :lol:

It's definitely a fan recoloring of the IDW color classics, but a very good one at that, it almost looks official! I use it because it draws the closest resemblance to the Nick's adaptation I was comparing to. And somehow, blue feels more like Leo. But that's another topic for another day.

I feel that Nick has done a much better job adapting the Leo one-shot, while 4Kids did a better job adapting TMNT #10, as Nick barely did any homage to #10 other than the first and last page. Everything in the middle has been replaced by the invasion plot. If I create comparison shots of 4Kids' The Shredder Strikes Back 2-parter vs Mirage, I can hardly find common scenes between the cartoon and Leo #1, as it was raining (not snowing) and Leo was hopping on rooftops being hunted by Foot ninjas, Foot Mechs and Hun (not trapped into a construction site and into the icy water). The only relevant part is the appearance of the Foot Elite. And later Leo crashed through the window the opposite way too (face first instead of shell first). In comparison, Nick's adaptation is much closer to the comic, up to this point.

However, right after this point, which is where Leo #1 ends and TMNT #10 starts, the 4Kids adaptation is almost a panel-by-panel clone of the comic. Everything from the Foot ambush, Splinter catching an arrow by hand, the staircase trip downstairs, the fight in the antique shop, Casey Jones' surprise entry, the fire, and the narrow escape via the cooling unit vent was faithfully remade. Nick did none of these, and skipped straight to the escape-to-North-Hampton arc right after the invasion plot.

To be honest, I absolutely love 4Kids' and Nick's takes on the 2-parter, they are both excellent in their own ways. However I'd give Nick extra credit by incorporating a well known story into their own continuity seamlessly, while 4Kids pretty much tagged along the comics' storyline for most of their continuity.

[ssjup81]

Honestly, I would love to see that. BUT...

I would bet money that they won't do that at all.

Instead they'll disregard/ignore it and won't give Raph anything that worthwhile to do (considering how they've been using Raph so far in this series).

To be honest, the only thing good stuff that they're doing with Raphael so far is the bond that Raph & Mikey share with each other.To be honest I could see this happening. There has to be a rage mode with him I feel.

Besides, there is that poster from SDCC. The turtles are all there, but the one fighting Shredder in stealth, and possibly rage mode, is Raph.

He was losing it when he saw Splinter getting pummeled and probably would've gone full rage if Mikey hadn't comforted him and calmed him down. Seriously, imo, that is the best Mikey moment in the entire series for me and the best moment between them, imo. I'm sure something will top it in the future, but the feels!! Just can't get around that.

[Foombamaroom]

I think there's a very good chance we will see something like this. I don't think we'll see that scene in particular, but I definitely think Raph will be a ticking time bomb in season 3 and he's going to explode on all of his brothers, except maybe Mikey.

I think they handled Raph just fine.

I don't understand why some fans just wants him on PMS all the time. They're handling Raph's personality fine, but they aren't giving him any good arcs. I was hoping that he was gonna go apeshit when he saw Leo thrown through the window like how he went nuts when Shredder threw Splinter down the drain, so I was a bit disappointed with that.

[ssjup81]

I don't think we'll see that scene in particular, but I definitely think Raph will be a ticking time bomb in season 3 and he's going to explode on all of his brothers, except maybe Mikey.

They're handling Raph's personality fine, but they aren't giving him any good arcs. I was hoping that he was gonna go apeshit when he saw Leo thrown through the window like how he went nuts when Shredder threw Splinter down the drain, so I was a bit disappointed with that.Raph's reaction to Leo seemed to be shock and surprise, as it happened so fast and then the Footbots rushed in. He kept a clear head to get Leo to safety. This didn't bother me, honestly, as at that point, I think it would've been more of a hindrance than a help to go rage mode on Tigerclaw, Rahzaa, and Fishface. Shredder wasn't even there.

Seeing Splinter getting beaten was different. He was right there and couldn't help him. For this incarnation, it feels appropriate. IMO, if he had seen Leo being attacked, by them and Shredder, I'm positive he would've gone rage mode.

I still feel that if Mikey hadn't calmed him down, he would've gone after Shredder, or tried. He was going into a rage mode.

If they go the route, if they face Shredder again and they don't know that Splinter's alive, and Shredder confidentially and arrogantly toys with them saying that he's dead, I could see Raph going into a serious rage mode...or as serious censors can allow him to be.

I like that SDCC poster with the turtles in the back with Raph in stealth/rage mode fighting Shredder. I want this to become a reality for this show. :-P

That aside, I also could see Raph being snappy with everyone in season 3 and maybe Mikey will be the only one capable of keeping him calm. I also wonder now, as some others mentioned, when, and if, Raph finds out that Donnie's arguing with Leo caused them to get separated in the first place and that April bringing Irma to the lair which started the invasion, if he's going to take out most of his frustrations on them, especially April.

It would interesting to see April have that type of conflict with one of the turtles and those around them (Mikey, Donnie, Casey) dealing with it.

Anyway, that's what I think may happen. Only time will tell.

[SparkyMarky644]

I loved the episode! I thought it was very good and I loved the references to the Leonardo issue of the Mirage comics and them going upstate. Overall was a fantastic episode.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The Earth Protection Force from the 2003 series was referenced? I totally missed that. Does anyone have a picture of their logo or something that shows this. I saw the soldiers but I totally missed that they were the EPF.

[evan2000]

The Earth Protection Force from the 2003 series was referenced? I totally missed that. Does anyone have a picture of their logo or something that shows this. I saw the soldiers but I totally missed that they were the EPF.

The soldiers addressed themselves as Earth Protection Force in their radio communication dialog. You have to listen carefully to catch the phrase.

The EPF logo can also be found printed at the side of their tanks, this is the clearest shot I have, zoomed in, flipped and adjusted the contrast to see it better:

http://i.imgur.com/4dG6qp5.jpg

The "E" is styled like a globe grid shape and the "P" & "F" surrounds the "E" in a very Triceraton-design-like shape. A LOT is yet to be revealed in Season 3!

[evan2000]

By the way, am I the only one seeing things or did Ciro Nieli tried to write his name on the tanks as well, but didn't quite look like it?

http://i.imgur.com/sRvvXoX.jpg

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome comparison shots from the comics and Nick's adaptation. Can't wait to watch this on TV and agree that Nick's adaptation is loads better than 4Kids' adaptation. So I have two questions:

1. How did Leo lose his swords?

2. Did Leo say anything after he was thrown through the window?

I really hope that they don't magically heal Leo up at the start of season 3 and that he still has battle scars.