Would this show be better if it was binge watch?

[Luckyday]

Do you think that you would have notice less of this season's problems if you had binge watch it?

[ssjup81]

I binge watched the show up until Pizzaface, as that was the most recent ep out. Still was enjoyable.

[Gunpowder]

I just started watching the show this year, so I had to binge watch the DVDs to catch up. And I loved every minute of it. So I'd say yes.

(Watching the same episodes over and over again will obviously burn you out, though.)

[pannoni1]

I find that at certain checkpoints is the best time to marathon, especially after Season finales to grasp what played out in the previous season, though a few weak episodes that didn't contribute to the season in general I would pass on. I've only watched most episodes once, so refreshing what happened after so many episodes would help since it isn't like the OT when I would keep watching the same 65 episodes over and over again until Season 4 started, and those reruns made it easier to understand the series in full.

[CyberCubed]

I think any show is more enjoyable when you watch it quickly rather than waiting for one episode every week or every two months.

[Powder]

I think any show is more enjoyable when you watch it quickly rather than waiting for one episode every week or every two months.

This is true, but it doesn't mean the show will be any better, per se.

I feel that the Nick show has very few problems, I am huuuge fan of it & haven't been very critical of it. But, I think the issues it does have are somewhat glaring, which would only make them harder to swallow or whatever in high doses, I imagine. So I voted no.

[CyberCubed]

I feel that the Nick show has very few problems, I am huuuge fan of it & haven't been very critical of it. But, I think the issues it does have are somewhat glaring, which would only make them harder to swallow or whatever in high doses, I imagine. So I voted no.

I think the few problems the show has is the inability to move on from the Kraang storyline. Its hard to believe they'll still be doing the Kraang stuff well into Season 3.

The Season 2 finale was almost a repeat of Season 1's except it was darker since the good guys "lost" this time around rather than the happy ending of Season 1's finale.

[Powder]

Yeah man, that's the kinda thing I mean. If you're not big on the Kraang plots, April/Donnie, Mikey's personality, etc, you might find it difficult to do episodes consecutively.

[ssjup81]

Surprisingly, the Kraang stuff amuses me.

[Luckyday]

Yeah man, that's the kinda thing I mean. If you're not big on the Kraang plots, April/Donnie, Mikey's personality, etc, you might find it difficult to do episodes consecutively.

That may be true but I think if I have watch it through a sitting, I wouldn't be constantly nit picking each episode on some minor details like April's family or school, Shredder's lack of strategy, any character's lack of a reaction, or anything that has do with continuity. I just wouldn't have time to think about these things.

[plastroncafe]

I think there's something to be said for the digestion between episodes, rather than the mainlining of one right after another.

Up until the most recent break I watched them when they aired, but now that I've moved and we've ditched our cable package...I guess I'll be seeing them when I see them.

Maybe I'll view the show more favorably with less time to think about nitpicks.
Time will tell.

[Jinxed-Outtaluck]

I've also only just started watching this show this year. I binged watched for about a week to catch up to 'Vengeance is Mine' and then joined everyone else in dragging ourselves through the hiatus.

But from the first episode I saw (Parasitica..before I started over from the beginning) I was HOOKED. This show is SO funny and clever and unique. Its interpretations of the past series' and its comic book feel is perfect.

I voted "yes" to the poll because watching each episode one right after the other only gave me enough time to love what I was watching. There was nothing to be critical of because I was having too much of a good time having my own personal marathon :)

[Luckyday]

I've also only just started watching this show this year. I binged watched for about a week to catch up to 'Vengeance is Mine' and then joined everyone else in dragging ourselves through the hiatus.

But from the first episode I saw (Parasitica..before I started over from the beginning) I was HOOKED. This show is SO funny and clever and unique. Its interpretations of the past series' and its comic book feel is perfect.

I voted "yes" to the poll because watching each episode one right after the other only gave me enough time to love what I was watching. There was nothing to be critical of because I was having too much of a good time having my own personal marathon :)

I remember going through the same situation with Breaking Bad. I binge watch through the first four season and then fifth season. After that I was hype on this show, I had craving to see each episode from week to week. Some people were disappointed with the ending but I guess I was too much on a hype high to be critical.

[Jinxed-Outtaluck]

I remember going through the same situation with Breaking Bad. I binge watch through the first four season and then fifth season. After that I was hype on this show, I had craving to see each episode from week to week. Some people were disappointed with the ending but I guess I was too much on a hype high to be critical.

SAME! Thank you. I've read alot of good reviews from people but I've also seen alot of disappointment with this show and alot of people comparing it to the old stuff or wishing for something different. But no show is perfect and even though TMNT 2012 is no exception you have to admit it's good. It's better than good. It's great! And I love it and I think I'll stand behind it no matter what.

[Coola Yagami]

People have to accept that the kraang are the A threat and shredder is the B threat in this version. Shredder just wants to kill the heroes and possibly rule the city. The kraang want to conquer the world and kill everyone on it. That more than just a contained revenge story.

Plus if shredder is down he's down but the kraang are an entire race of alien invaders.

[Warhorse]

People have to accept that the kraang are the A threat and shredder is the B threat in this version. Shredder just wants to kill the heroes and possibly rule the city. The kraang want to conquer the world and kill everyone on it. That more than just a contained revenge story.

Plus if shredder is down he's down but the kraang are an entire race of alien invaders.

Well now, maybe they have to conquer Earth because maybe another alien species was in Dimension X and swallowed up most of the resources, so they have to kind of movie their civilization to survive. Would be great if that other race were the Triceratons.

[JTH]

People have to accept that the kraang are the A threat and shredder is the B threat in this version. Shredder just wants to kill the heroes and possibly rule the city. The kraang want to conquer the world and kill everyone on it. That more than just a contained revenge story.

Plus if shredder is down he's down but the kraang are an entire race of alien invaders.
That and the fact that The Kraang should be written as an even bigger threat than they are now, even after the finale.

The story could be even better if it comes to the point where the sake of Earth's annihilation rests on The Turtles and Shredder realizing they may actually have to work together and comingle to rid the Kraang from destroying them all.

[Jinxed-Outtaluck]

That and the fact that The Kraang should be written as an even bigger threat than they are now, even after the finale.

The story could be even better if it comes to the point where the sake of Earth's annihilation rests on The Turtles and Shredder realizing they may actually have to work together and comingle to rid the Kraang from destroying them all.

That would be pretty cool except Shredder has already proven that he cares nothing for the human race, including himself. He's so blinded by revenge and power I don't think he would ever go out of his way to save anyone or anything (except maybe Karai at some point).

[Luckyday]

Well now, maybe they have to conquer Earth because maybe another alien species was in Dimension X and swallowed up most of the resources, so they have to kind of movie their civilization to survive. Would be great if that other race were the Triceratons.

This going to sound crazy, but I kind of want the Kraang and maybe Kraang Prime specifically to have this tragic backstory of how originally they use to be peace loving utroms that came to Earth, took some dinosaurs and turn them into highly evolve creatures but one day the Triceratons turn on them like that one scene from the classic Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. Kraang Prime somehow survived the genocide and ever since then, He has been on this war path of revenge.

[Netkeeper]

Generally, I prefer to watch my shows as quickly as possible. I get a thrill out of marathoning the **** out of a series in only a few days with little sleep.

But for this show, since it really is not my cup of tea, I can only handle one episode at a time.

[THGhost]

If you can tolerate a lot of Kraang plots and "mutant of the week" villains, then yes. Binge watch it. If not, then don't. Like many others, those are my only problems with the show.

[snake]

For certain episodes, yes.

[Warhorse]

If you can tolerate a lot of Kraang plots and "mutant of the week" villains, then yes. Binge watch it. If not, then don't. Like many others, those are my only problems with the show.

Well, to be honest, I don't watch the show for the plots, I watch the show for the interactions between the Turtles and some of the humans they have on here. Granted though, this in itself is tough, because the show seems to be scared if it doesn't have action in for too long, like, 3 minutes tops.

[Shark_Blade]

I have no problem with the show whatsoever really. Oh except for Timothy.

[Jinxed-Outtaluck]

Oh my- Thank you. This^

Is there a reason so many people like him? Because he's honestly really annoying and I don't know how he turned into such an "important" character.

[ssjup81]

Oh my- Thank you. This^

Is there a reason so many people like him? Because he's honestly really annoying and I don't know how he turned into such an "important" character.I found him annoying, but didn't have an actual prob with him looking back because he was intentionally written to be annoying.

I still don't get how people found Zach annoying when you have characters like Timothy around.

[CyberCubed]

How was Timothy a major character? He was only in like 2 episodes before being mutated.

[Warhorse]

How was Timothy a major character? He was only in like 2 episodes before being mutated.

Probably because he was in 2 too many episodes. He should have been just a one episode kind of character.

[Jinxed-Outtaluck]

I don't want to turn this into a conversation about Timothy. I guess that's getting off the thread subject but I just overall don't understand the point of his character. The few episodes he was in (even while binge watching) were pretty lame to sit through.

[Warhorse]

I don't want to turn this into a conversation about Timothy. I guess that's getting off the thread subject but I just overall don't understand the point of his character. The few episodes he was in (even while binge watching) were pretty lame to sit through.

ONly one I liked was his first one, but only because I just thought it was good character development to see Donnie training someone and interacting with others besides his brothers and April.

[ssjup81]

I don't want to turn this into a conversation about Timothy. I guess that's getting off the thread subject but I just overall don't understand the point of his character. The few episodes he was in (even while binge watching) were pretty lame to sit through.Showed off Donnie's compassionate side despite being completely annoyed with him and jump started Donnie's wanting to work on retromutagen.

Oh and to NOT be like Tomothy, trying to do things the easy way. lol

[Davetello]

Edited as I thought I'd opened the 4kids section. Lol. D'oh.

Anyway yeah, the show would be more enjoyable if it was binged watched on first viewing. But then that applies to practically everything. This 'weekly episode' thing is becoming pretty primitive and I hope that in thirty years everything follows the Netflix model. But I doubt it.

[Warhorse]

Edited as I thought I'd opened the 4kids section. Lol. D'oh.

Anyway yeah, the show would be more enjoyable if it was binged watched on first viewing. But then that applies to practically everything. This 'weekly episode' thing is becoming pretty primitive and I hope that in thirty years everything follows the Netflix model. But I doubt it.

^This. Lots of shows I could never get into, until Netflix, when I could sit down and watch episode to episode, uninterrupted. This was especially helpful when watching a show like 24, in which the episodes and story arcs are super interlinked, and you could miss or forget something if you had to wait between hiatus and season premieres.

[Davetello]

^This. Lots of shows I could never get into, until Netflix, when I could sit down and watch episode to episode, uninterrupted. This was especially helpful when watching a show like 24, in which the episodes and story arcs are super interlinked, and you could miss or forget something if you had to wait between hiatus and season premieres.

Yeah, it's just a bit outdated now. I know people like the 'watercooler' effect, but it's just too difficult to become engrossed in a show when you have to wait a week between episodes (or longer in the case of this show).

I suppose counter-arguments would be that we'd have longer to wait in between seasons, and that the gap between seasons would replicate the problem of the gap between weekly episodes in a single season, but it would still be more preferable to what happens now.

Technically we could just watch shows which are already completed/well into their run, and let new shows build up over a few seasons before watching - but who's likely to do that when a fresh new exciting show comes along? Nobody really has the patience to let it build up, and it's a shame because I feel I'd have enjoyed shows like OUAT and American Horror Story even more if I could have watched seasons over a day or two.

[Gunpowder]

I have no problem with the show whatsoever really. Oh except for Timothy.

The only problem I have with Timothy is his voice actor. If Roger Craig Smith didn't voice EVERY SINGLE recurring character in Regular Show, I wouldn't mind him, because I wouldn't be so damn sick of hearing him. He certainly has the voice for it, but he's overdone, if you ask me.

Edited as I thought I'd opened the 4kids section. Lol. D'oh.

Anyway yeah, the show would be more enjoyable if it was binged watched on first viewing. But then that applies to practically everything. This 'weekly episode' thing is becoming pretty primitive and I hope that in thirty years everything follows the Netflix model. But I doubt it.

The problem with that setup would be that every show would have to be mass-produced, which would inevitably lessen the quality. (But maybe I'm wrong about that. Who knows.) Shows ARE more enjoyable when watched that way, though. And I agree that the weekly episode deal is annoying, albeit necessary for commercials and marketing. Plus it's basically the standard method by now, so I don't see it changing.

[Davetello]

The only problem I have with Timothy is his voice actor. If Roger Craig Smith didn't voice EVERY SINGLE recurring character in Regular Show, I wouldn't mind him, because I wouldn't be so damn sick of hearing him. He certainly has the voice for it, but he's overdone, if you ask me.



The problem with that setup would be that every show would have to be mass-produced, which would inevitably lessen the quality. (But maybe I'm wrong about that. Who knows.) Shows ARE more enjoyable when watched that way, though. And I agree that the weekly episode deal is annoying, albeit necessary for commercials and marketing. Plus it's basically the standard method by now, so I don't see it changing.

Yeah, it probably would dilute the quality of shows, at least in the short term as it became the default setup. And the reasons you allude to are why I said I doubt it will ever happen - they need to the money from commercials and marketing to keep the show going. Netflix can do it due to subscription fees but we're obviously not going to pay multiple fees to multiple companies just for the ability to binge watch.

[ssjup81]

I don't mind waiting a week between episodes. Guess I'm old-fashioned. The only reason I binge watched the Nick series was because I could and because I was so far behind.

The only thing I would dislike is inconsistent airings or long breaks. Like with live action shows, it airs for it's 20 something weeks, a few breaks and a long summer break. Doesn't bother me as I can theorize and look forward to the upcoming season. Wish animated shows did the same, but I only say this because of the inconsistency of the breaks.

[Davetello]

I don't mind waiting a week between episodes. Guess I'm old-fashioned. The only reason I binge watched the Nick series was because I could and because I was so far behind.

The only thing I would dislike is inconsistent airings or long breaks. Like with live action shows, it airs for it's 20 something weeks, a few breaks and a long summer break. Doesn't bother me as I can theorize and look forward to the upcoming season. Wish animated shows did the same, but I only say this because of the inconsistency of the breaks.

I suppose it's just the opportunity to have the choice of whether to watch weekly or all in one go. That's what appeals.

Yeah, the breaks in between eps for this show have been wildly inconsistent. It's distracting.

Edit: I still haven't seen the last four eps of season 2. I will over the next coupla nights.

[Warhorse]

Yeah, it's just a bit outdated now. I know people like the 'watercooler' effect, but it's just too difficult to become engrossed in a show when you have to wait a week between episodes (or longer in the case of this show).

I suppose counter-arguments would be that we'd have longer to wait in between seasons, and that the gap between seasons would replicate the problem of the gap between weekly episodes in a single season, but it would still be more preferable to what happens now.

Technically we could just watch shows which are already completed/well into their run, and let new shows build up over a few seasons before watching - but who's likely to do that when a fresh new exciting show comes along? Nobody really has the patience to let it build up, and it's a shame because I feel I'd have enjoyed shows like OUAT and American Horror Story even more if I could have watched seasons over a day or two.

It depends on the patience. I was an avid Lost fan, but then, I was just getting frustrated because it seemed like it was 3 minutes of show, then 5 minutes of commercial, and nothing seemed to move the plot along, so, i just gave up. If you don't move that plot substantially, or let key character developments kick in, the show starts to get stale, stagnant somewhat.

[Luckyday]

It just the pacing feels too fast for a moment of introspection. It's like there would be a big revelation and we before we could get to a character's reaction...it cuts to black.

[Davetello]

It depends on the patience. I was an avid Lost fan, but then, I was just getting frustrated because it seemed like it was 3 minutes of show, then 5 minutes of commercial, and nothing seemed to move the plot along, so, i just gave up. If you don't move that plot substantially, or let key character developments kick in, the show starts to get stale, stagnant somewhat.

Yeah, that is completely understandable, and I can understand your frustration there. Have you not thought about going back to binge the remainer of the show now that it is complete?

It just the pacing feels too fast for a moment of introspection. It's like there would be a big revelation and we before we could get to a character's reaction...it cuts to black.

Yes, this is the other side of the coin - no time for contemplation of a cliffhanger ending to an episode. However, bear in mind that if the Netflix model did become the default manner of producing episodes, there would be no need to reel the viewer in for the 'next week', and we'd see an end to that sort of thing. We could still have big moments but they'd perhaps be more likely to happen within episodes rather than right at the end. There would be a proliferation of that sort of thing, and it would make for superior storytelling. Think of how "The Wire" worked - the episodes were more like chapters of a book - part of a coherent whole and each 'chapter' didn't end on a cliffhanger (for the most part). That sort of model lends itself very well to a hypothetical future where seasons are released all at once.

[Coola Yagami]

Humanity is becoming dumber and dumber. It's all about instant gratification and super short attention spans.

Keep it weekly. If they aired it daily you'd run out of episodes in a month or so. Besides this is trying to be a somewhat more serious show with an overarching plot. If you complain about fillers now....turning this into a weekly show will REALLY crank up the filler ratio, and then you'll really see extremely horrible plot amnesia.

[Davetello]

Humanity is becoming dumber and dumber. It's all about instant gratification and super short attention spans.

Keep it weekly. If they aired it daily you'd run out of episodes in a month or so. Besides this is trying to be a somewhat more serious show with an overarching plot. If you complain about fillers now....turning this into a weekly show will REALLY crank up the filler ratio, and then you'll really see extremely horrible plot amnesia.

There's no need to state that people are 'dumb' because they wish to binge watch a television show. It's more about being enthusiastic about a show. It's more a case of impatience than humanity being dumbed down.

[Luckyday]

All I can say was the writing in this season was binge. Kind of like the second season The Legend of Korra so maybe this would be the inconsistent season but everything after that will flow better in terms of story and continuity. : /

[Netkeeper]

Yeah, it's just a bit outdated now. I know people like the 'watercooler' effect, but it's just too difficult to become engrossed in a show when you have to wait a week between episodes (or longer in the case of this show).

I suppose counter-arguments would be that we'd have longer to wait in between seasons, and that the gap between seasons would replicate the problem of the gap between weekly episodes in a single season, but it would still be more preferable to what happens now.

Technically we could just watch shows which are already completed/well into their run, and let new shows build up over a few seasons before watching - but who's likely to do that when a fresh new exciting show comes along? Nobody really has the patience to let it build up, and it's a shame because I feel I'd have enjoyed shows like OUAT and American Horror Story even more if I could have watched seasons over a day or two.
I think a better compromise would be to put one episode on a day, same bat time, same bat channel. This is how I watched Dragonball Z and it kept me really into the show, partly because I had enough time to think about the events of each episode in between, and partly because watching it became part of my routine. In fact, it baffles me that shows aren't set up like that one was.

Also, I'm one of those people that watches shows that have stacked up a few seasons instead of watching it as it comes along. I have no problem with it, since I usually forget a show even exists until well into its run anyway. [Like Korra. Thinking about binging that one soon.]

It just the pacing feels too fast for a moment of introspection. It's like there would be a big revelation and we before we could get to a character's reaction...it cuts to black.
This is also a huge problem and part of why I can't watch more than one episode at a time.

[Davetello]

I think a better compromise would be to put one episode on a day, same bat time, same bat channel. This is how I watched Dragonball Z and it kept me really into the show, partly because I had enough time to think about the events of each episode in between, and partly because watching it became part of my routine. In fact, it baffles me that shows aren't set up like that one was.


Yeah, I thought about that before as well. An episode every day or two would be more than fine by me. That would give some time to let the current ep settle.

Of course this sort of thing is really only a major priority for serial rather than procedural television shows.

[ssjup81]

Yeah, I thought about that before as well. An episode every day or two would be more than fine by me. That would give some time to let the current ep settle.

Of course this sort of thing is really only a major priority for serial rather than procedural television shows.Yeah, like the dying genre of soap operas.

[BubblyShell22]

I voted yes if you're a newcomer to the show. It's best to binge watch so you know what's going on because certain episodes are connected to each other. And if you're already into the show, binge watching is fine because it makes you see how the season is all connected and how it all comes together.

I agree about the breaks sometimes, but as long as we get consistent episodes each week, it doesn't bother me that we have to wait a week to see the next episode as opposed to a month or two. I'm fine with that because it gives us time to really drink it in and talk about it here on the boards.

[Warhorse]

All I can say was the writing in this season was binge. Kind of like the second season The Legend of Korra so maybe this would be the inconsistent season but everything after that will flow better in terms of story and continuity. : /

Possible. In fact, there are some episodes I have yet to see from TMNT season 2. Mazes and Mutants is one, and the Newtralized one. And maybe another one or 2. I own only up to Rats and Men. I'm waiting for the rest of the season to be available on amazon.

[Refractive Reflections]

In my opinion, it would have the opposite effect actually. You'll notice a lot of the plot amnesia and weak points of the writing that were easier to forget during the breaks in airing, will now be more obvious. The first glaring example is when one notices how April casually returns back to high school in season 2 without addressing how the Kraang are still searching for her, when a few episodes before, within season 1, had a big dramatic ending of how she couldn't have her normal life back because of it.

Here a few more storywriting weaknesses that will become more noticeable if one binge watches:
How the TCRI building got mysteriously rebuilt after its explosion in the Season 1 finale, the highly adapatable Foot-bots that can "learn every move" of the Turtles are easy to defeat a few episodes later, the "Follow the Leader" revelation of Splinter telling Leonardo that Karai is his daughter but yet seems completely irrelevant when Karai reappears in "Target: April O' Neil", Mikey playing with the mutagen again in "Mikey Gets Shellacne" when he loudly commented on how grotesque Timothy was after handling it in "The Pulverizer Returns!"...

It just the pacing feels too fast for a moment of introspection. It's like there would be a big revelation and we before we could get to a character's reaction...it cuts to black.

I wouldn't say the pacing feels too fast as it seems more like those introspective moments are unimportant by not taking the time to actually go into that, because if it was "too fast" we would have noticed the characters' viewpoints significantly having been changed by the time the next episode arrives, and we would be asking ourselves in that new episode, "Whoa! Wait a minute. How did this character jump that far in thinking like that now?". The biggest example of this is April's revelation of discovering she is a mutant herself, but seems unfazed by it all in the next episode.

[aliena]

I was wondering the very same thing. I only bought the first DVD for a time killer before the movie came out, but I was shockingly hooked after the first episode. I went out and bought all that was available and sat there and binged watched the heck out of them. When I was finished I turned around and slowly watched them again. I felt each episode was better than the last and as time passed for them, the episodes were stronger.

I often hear that people were really involved with the Karai storyline, but it was resolved so fast during my viewing that I didn't really get all that emotional about it. Later viewings, it did sink in. Then I watched the last few episodes that were not on DVD and I had to wait through the hiatus with everyone else. Waiting week to week really stinks, but I'm able to digest each episode this time around.

[JTH]

Sometimes it helps, and other times the breaks and hiatuses actually work when the show airs.

Since the season's according to the show's dialogue actually spans a whole year per season, actually airing the season a full year makes it feel more real.

And sometimes the breaks are put in the right place and intentionally placed, like in Slash & Destroy when Donnie's arm was messed up at the end, the show went on a 4 week break, the next episode, he's alright again. It's almost like the show is telling you that "this" much time has passed between these episodes.

[neatoman]

If you do marathon watch something you'll be less likely to notice a flaw or an episode you don't really like, since you'll plow through episodes too quickly to notice something that's off.

Of course watching an episode per week as usual makes you a bit more critical, since you get time to process what you saw those short 20-ish minutes as oppossed to 1-4 hours blending together for you. If I did binge watch it I might not have reactions like "A damn body switch episode?!" or "Oh c'mon, that anti-mutagen could have cured everyone if all it took was a drop!".

On the other hand, I might not be able to forget things the show counts on me to forget, like how the same sets are reused over and over again with the intention of being multiple locations...