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Warhorse
09-27-2014, 02:17 AM
So, so far as we know, three of the Turtles have shown that they do find human females attractive. Donnie with his Apri crush, Leo with his Karai crush, and even Raphael has admitted that Karai is hot. Will we get a reverse scenario in the future when it's a female human that starts to crush on one of the Turtles?

Netkeeper
09-27-2014, 07:16 AM
Ah yes, this is exactly what this show needs.

DarkLightDragon
09-27-2014, 07:32 AM
Eh, if a non-human character like Donnie having a crush on someone like April (even if she isn't 100% human) was labeled weird or creepy to some, then I really can't see it being less weird or creepy if a human had a crush on what are non-human creatures.

Mukouno
09-27-2014, 07:36 AM
To be honest, I hope we won't get anymore characters thrown in just for the sake of romance. I like how they handle the Leo/Karai stuff, but I absolutely can't stand the Donnie/April/Casey triangle. They can do it right, but they can also mess this up.
So I'm leaning more towards no, I don't want any more female characters if they're only there for romance and have no other meaning to the plot, no matter if human or mutant.

DarkLightDragon
09-27-2014, 07:43 AM
To be honest, I hope we won't get anymore characters thrown in just for the sake of romance. I like how they handle the Leo/Karai stuff, but I absolutely can't stand the Donnie/April/Casey triangle. They can do it right, but they can also mess this up.
So I'm leaning more towards no, I don't want any more female characters if they're only there for romance and have no other meaning to the plot, no matter if human or mutant.

This too. Creating characters just so they can serve to be love interests and nothing else is what I consider bad writing.

ssjup81
09-27-2014, 07:44 AM
To be honest, I doubt it. They already have the Leo/Karai, Donny/April thing going on. Besides, it would be way too weird, imo for a human to crush on a turtle...weirder than Leo or Donnie crushing on Karai and April.

drgon78
09-27-2014, 08:12 AM
I would like to see that, especially if we get the real Irma and she is rescued by one of the turtles(Mikey maybe).

Ninjinister
09-27-2014, 09:46 AM
We already do. It's called tumblr.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 09:47 AM
To be honest, I doubt it. They already have the Leo/Karai, Donny/April thing going on. Besides, it would be way too weird, imo for a human to crush on a turtle...weirder than Leo or Donnie crushing on Karai and April.

Megan Fox has stated she's had a crush on Michelangelo, people weren't weirded out by that, so why not a fictional character? There's still Mona Lisa, Angel and Radical that can be brought in.

Luckyday
09-27-2014, 09:51 AM
The romance in this show is nothing more than fan service tease so.....hell no.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 09:53 AM
The romance in this show is nothing more than fan service tease so.....hell no.

You're selfish! All of you naysayers are!

travelingcat
09-27-2014, 09:59 AM
This too. Creating characters just so they can serve to be love interests and nothing else is what I consider bad writing.

Yes. Peeves me to no end when shows do this. Before the Irma reveal, I was afraid her meeting the turtles would lead to her crushing on Donnie and complicate the romance even further.

To be honest, I doubt it. They already have the Leo/Karai, Donny/April thing going on. Besides, it would be way too weird, imo for a human to crush on a turtle...weirder than Leo or Donnie crushing on Karai and April.

Is it really? In this version, they are half human instead of just anthropomorphic like the 2K3 turtles.

TurtleTitan97
09-27-2014, 10:04 AM
I certainly hope not. Sounds like those bad Turtle X Human fan fiction stories you read online. Ugh.:tdead:

Ninjinister
09-27-2014, 10:40 AM
Megan Fox has stated she's had a crush on Michelangelo, people weren't weirded out by that, so why not a fictional character?

What do you mean, that's incredibly weird.

You're selfish! All of you naysayers are!

I'd argue that advocating the shoehorning of something trivial and meaningless into the show just so that you're pleased, is incredibly selfish.


Is it really? In this version, they are half human instead of just anthropomorphic like the 2K3 turtles.

Waitwhat.

DarkLightDragon
09-27-2014, 10:50 AM
I don't think it's ever been said the Turtles are half-human in this iteration, though maybe I missed something, but kinda doubt it.

Being half-human would imply they have human DNA compared to being anthromorphic, which is basically mimicking or having human-like qualities on non-human creatures/things (being able to speak, having opposable thumbs, walking erect, etc.).

Ninjinister
09-27-2014, 11:05 AM
I don't think it's ever been said the Turtles are half-human in this iteration, though maybe I missed something, but kinda doubt it.

Being half-human would imply they have human DNA compared to being anthromorphic, which is basically mimicking or having human-like qualities on non-human creatures/things (being able to speak, having opposable thumbs, walking erect, etc.).

Yeah all I remember is like... I think Playmates had said something like that on a cardback or something now that I think about it... but everyone unanimously agreed that they derped.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 11:14 AM
What do you mean, that's incredibly weird. How so?



I'd argue that advocating the shoehorning of something trivial and meaningless into the show just so that you're pleased, is incredibly selfish.

You speak tons of selfishness. There is nothing selfish of asking will there be something later on? This new set of creators don't seem to be shy of thinking outside of the box, and I applaud them for that. Shame closed minded people like you don't!

travelingcat
09-27-2014, 11:21 AM
I don't think it's ever been said the Turtles are half-human in this iteration, though maybe I missed something, but kinda doubt it.

Being half-human would imply they have human DNA compared to being anthromorphic, which is basically mimicking or having human-like qualities on non-human creatures/things (being able to speak, having opposable thumbs, walking erect, etc.).

It seemed implied rather than stated. Every mutated human changes based on the DNA of whatever they last touch. And the animals that get mutated without touching a human before turn into monstrosities instead of walking talking animals.

Ninjinister
09-27-2014, 11:33 AM
You speak tons of selfishness. There is nothing selfish of asking will there be something later on? This new set of creators don't seem to be shy of thinking outside of the box, and I applaud them for that. Shame closed minded people like you don't!

Are you serious?

Think of it this way: Would not having this make you enjoy the show any less? Because if having it in, negatively impacts people, but you insist on it, that is selfishness on your part, because you would enjoy it regardless, and only enjoy it more because of it, not less because of its absence.

Increasing your enjoyment of something you were enjoying already, at the expense of someone else's enjoyment entirely, is incredibly selfish.

Furthermore, I'm completely nonplussed that you accuse me "close-minded", you started the entire snafu by asking for opinions, and as soon as someone disagreed with you, you called them selfish. This is an utter logical fallacy. You asked for opinions. By very definition you are opening the possibility that someone doesn't feel the same way as you.

And to complete the trifecta, I'm on the fence about this and am mostly playing the devil's advocate. I didn't expect you to take it so personal.

It's a damn cartoon. Chill out.

Luckyday
09-27-2014, 11:34 AM
I don't think it's ever been said the Turtles are half-human in this iteration, though maybe I missed something, but kinda doubt it.

Being half-human would imply they have human DNA compared to being anthromorphic, which is basically mimicking or having human-like qualities on non-human creatures/things (being able to speak, having opposable thumbs, walking erect, etc.).

I don't know what the mechanics are for a mutation. For longest time, I thought they had half of the dna of the last thing they touch and then I read this http://event0horizon.tumblr.com/post/58606606074/im-seeing-a-lot-of-misunderstandings-becoming and thought they were splice animals with tiny bit of human dna and now that I know that the mutagen was meant to fully transform a mutant and not stop half way through which got me thinking that April might be a reverse kraang cause they need her dna to fix it so I guess don't know what to think anymore.

http://www.xclusivetouch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Channing-Tatum-Confused-At-School-In-21-Jump-Street-Gif.gif

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 11:39 AM
Are you serious?

Think of it this way: Would not having this make you enjoy the show any less? Because if having it in, negatively impacts people, but you insist on it, that is selfishness on your part, because you would enjoy it regardless, and only enjoy it more because of it, not less because of its absence.

Increasing your enjoyment of something you were enjoying already, at the expense of someone else's enjoyment entirely, is incredibly selfish.

Furthermore, I'm completely nonplussed that you accuse me "close-minded", you started the entire snafu by asking for opinions, and as soon as someone disagreed with you, you called them selfish. This is an utter logical fallacy. You asked for opinions. By very definition you are opening the possibility that someone doesn't feel the same way as you.

And to complete the trifecta, I'm on the fence about this and am mostly playing the devil's advocate. I didn't expect you to take it so personal.

It's a damn cartoon. Chill out.

Actually, I wasn't really asking opinions, I was just asking will we see the reverse later on. It's no different than the threads asking if we will see Bishop, or the Triceratons, or the Newtrinos or Mona Lisa. This topic obviously disturbs you for some reason, so maybe you should just not come in here anymore. It's just harmless fun, I didn't mean this to become hostile. I more or less set it up for those who are entertained by the idea and like to dive deeper into characters other than the slash they might get on their arm in a fight.

I don't know what the mechanics are for a mutation. For longest time, I thought they had half of the dna of the last thing they touch and then I read this http://event0horizon.tumblr.com/post/58606606074/im-seeing-a-lot-of-misunderstandings-becoming and thought they were splice animals with tiny bit of human dna and now that I know that the mutagen was meant to fully transform a mutant and not stop half way through which got me thinking that April might be a reverse kraang cause they need her dna to fix it so I guess don't know what to think anymore.

http://www.xclusivetouch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Channing-Tatum-Confused-At-School-In-21-Jump-Street-Gif.gif

I always assumed that the Turtles became half human the second the mutagen touched them. Especially in the Nick version. They are obviously more human than they are turtles now, what with their emotions, intelligence, the way they are attracted to humans (we have yet to see one of them look at another turtle in a park and have them go, yeah, that one looks hot) and, the fact Leonardo falls right into freezing cold water, is breathing heavily when he gets out, and is still able to fight shows he is leaning far more towards human than turtle.

Coola Yagami
09-27-2014, 12:18 PM
I could care less. The turtles aren't really turtles anymore anyway in the literal sense. Turtles don't talk and fight martial arts. They're basically green humans with shells now. And they're a lot less monstrous looking than Rahzar and Fishface. Plus they're the likeable good guys. Only natural some girls falls for them based on heroics alone. Like any other hero series.

neatoman
09-27-2014, 12:30 PM
Will We Get A Human Girl Crushing on one of the Turtles?

Ew, no... At least Donnie has the excuse that that the only other three members of his species are his brothers.

IndigoErth
09-27-2014, 12:48 PM
On the half-human debate, reminded me of something...

Ya ever see on the digital cable on-screen tv guide listings when scrolling ahead to future episodes that some sometimes don't yet have a description for the episode yet, just a generic TMNT description? Usually it seems to say roughly the same thing, though I caught an odd one with a different description recently, say...prob less than two weeks ago. It called them half-human, half-turtle.

Not that that proves anything, and wasn't my point, but found it curious/interesting/gave me a giggle. Hmmmmm :)


Personally I take them as being half or at least partially human and loosely related to Splinter in some round about way via his DNA. Beyond the looks, they're much more similar to humans than dissimilar. We're such a touchy species about this stuff though, it would be amusing if it wasn't sad. Same kind of attitudes have long ostracized real humans with various disorders. If TMNT were real I would hope humanity could at least come to accept beings like them as people, friends even, but we have a hard enough time accepting some of our own who don't look like the norm.

As to the subject actually asked... Eh, I don't really have an issue with it. Awkward on this side of the screen yes, but in a fictional setting it's harmless. Fiction I believe has probably long been a safe place for humanity to explore various ideas - including the notion of what would happen were we not or no longer the only intelligent, talking, biped species and had others living alongside us and accepted as fellow people and citizens of our countries and cultures. I mean, that isn't out of the realm of possibly that that could have been the case on good old Earth. And then what. We've had such trouble with accepting interracial couples, now some are struggling to accept same sex couples... I can only imagine the horror of humanity if we were not alone in our societies and struggling to accept some human-??? pairs that connected in the process of our push for noble concepts such as an importance in loving someone's mind and inner beauty. Heaven help us if we were ever colonized by friendly aliens who were a bit too similar to us...

Also I think maybe where fiction is concerned it's also a bit of a gender issue. Media has long been ok with having a non-human flirt with a pretty human woman/girl who then acts receptive to it, or at least tolerant, and may appear to flirt back if not the one who initiated it. And most don't take this as any issue, we hardly even notice it even. Other versions of this however rarely seems to happen. I'm not saying it should happen, but it's no less weird that we're ok with it on one dimension but switch up the players or the sequence of events and we're suddenly horrified over something fictional.

Luckyday
09-27-2014, 01:10 PM
On the half-human debate, reminded me of something...

Ya ever see on the digital cable on-screen tv guide listings when scrolling ahead to future episodes that some sometimes don't yet have a description for the episode yet, just a generic TMNT description? Usually it seems to say roughly the same thing, though I caught an odd one with a different description recently, say...prob less than two weeks ago. It called them half-human, half-turtle.

Not that that proves anything, and wasn't my point, but found it curious/interesting/gave me a giggle. Hmmmmm :)


Personally I take them as being half or at least partially human and loosely related to Splinter in some round about way via his DNA. Beyond the looks, they're much more similar to humans than dissimilar. We're such a touchy species about this stuff though, it would be amusing if it wasn't sad. Same kind of attitudes have long ostracized real humans with various disorders. If TMNT were real I would hope humanity could at least come to accept beings like them as people, friends even, but we have a hard enough time accepting some of our own who don't look like the norm.

As to the subject actually asked... Eh, I don't really have an issue with it. Awkward on this side of the screen yes, but in a fictional setting it's harmless. Fiction I believe has probably long been a safe place for humanity to explore various ideas - including the notion of what would happen were we not or no longer the only intelligent, talking, biped species and had others living alongside us and accepted as fellow people and citizens of our countries and cultures. I mean, that isn't out of the realm of possibly that that could have been the case on good old Earth. And then what. We've had such trouble with accepting interracial couples, now some are struggling to accept same sex couples... I can only imagine the horror of humanity if we were not alone in our societies and struggling to accept some human-??? pairs that connected in the process of our push for noble concepts such as an importance in loving someone's mind and inner beauty. Heaven help us if we were ever colonized by friendly aliens who were a bit too similar to us...

Also I think maybe where fiction is concerned it's also a bit of a gender issue. Media has long been ok with having a non-human flirt with a pretty human woman/girl who then acts receptive to it, or at least tolerant, and may appear to flirt back if not the one who initiated it. And most don't take this as any issue, we hardly even notice it even. Other versions of this however rarely seems to happen. I'm not saying it should happen, but it's no less weird that we're ok with it on one dimension but switch up the players or the sequence of events and we're suddenly horrified over something fictional.

If we ever have nonhumans the first problem would getting use to how they look and the second problem would be trying to understand them. If you have a creature that doesn't think like a human and doesn't have the same needs wants and values then we might be unable to see them as sentient people. We would end up mistaking them as mindless monsters or worse, potential live stock.

If the turtles ever met someone that were very similar to them physically, but mentally was so different that she/he would seem almost alien then they would start questioning their own "humanity".

Leofan26
09-27-2014, 02:02 PM
No thanks, don't need another love fest going on in the show messing up dramatic issues 8)

Bad enough with the Donnie / April / Casey mess.

IndigoErth
09-27-2014, 02:03 PM
Fair enough points. Sadly in the process of mistaking other beings as mindless monsters I can only assume that we, given human history, would act exactly like that ourselves. Not all... but too many.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 02:21 PM
On the half-human debate, reminded me of something...

Ya ever see on the digital cable on-screen tv guide listings when scrolling ahead to future episodes that some sometimes don't yet have a description for the episode yet, just a generic TMNT description? Usually it seems to say roughly the same thing, though I caught an odd one with a different description recently, say...prob less than two weeks ago. It called them half-human, half-turtle.

Not that that proves anything, and wasn't my point, but found it curious/interesting/gave me a giggle. Hmmmmm :)


Personally I take them as being half or at least partially human and loosely related to Splinter in some round about way via his DNA. Beyond the looks, they're much more similar to humans than dissimilar. We're such a touchy species about this stuff though, it would be amusing if it wasn't sad. Same kind of attitudes have long ostracized real humans with various disorders. If TMNT were real I would hope humanity could at least come to accept beings like them as people, friends even, but we have a hard enough time accepting some of our own who don't look like the norm.

As to the subject actually asked... Eh, I don't really have an issue with it. Awkward on this side of the screen yes, but in a fictional setting it's harmless. Fiction I believe has probably long been a safe place for humanity to explore various ideas - including the notion of what would happen were we not or no longer the only intelligent, talking, biped species and had others living alongside us and accepted as fellow people and citizens of our countries and cultures. I mean, that isn't out of the realm of possibly that that could have been the case on good old Earth. And then what. We've had such trouble with accepting interracial couples, now some are struggling to accept same sex couples... I can only imagine the horror of humanity if we were not alone in our societies and struggling to accept some human-??? pairs that connected in the process of our push for noble concepts such as an importance in loving someone's mind and inner beauty. Heaven help us if we were ever colonized by friendly aliens who were a bit too similar to us...

Also I think maybe where fiction is concerned it's also a bit of a gender issue. Media has long been ok with having a non-human flirt with a pretty human woman/girl who then acts receptive to it, or at least tolerant, and may appear to flirt back if not the one who initiated it. And most don't take this as any issue, we hardly even notice it even. Other versions of this however rarely seems to happen. I'm not saying it should happen, but it's no less weird that we're ok with it on one dimension but switch up the players or the sequence of events and we're suddenly horrified over something fictional.

I'd like to know why nobody really had issues with Superman and Lois Lane? Are they not factually, different species?

TurtleTitan97
09-27-2014, 02:27 PM
I'd like to know why nobody really had issues with Superman and Lois Lane? Are they not factually, different species?

True, but here's what I see the difference between Superman & TMNT. Kryptonians, while aliens, are still very much humanoid beings. On Krypton, they're pretty much the same as us, minus the super powers under the red sun. So it's understandable why many people aren't bothered by that.

The Turtles however, while anamorphic mutants that walk, talk, and act like humans, are still Turtles. Showing an actually human female character falling in love with one of them just seems....creepy honestly.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 02:37 PM
True, but here's what I see the difference between Superman & TMNT. Kryptonians, while aliens, are still very much humanoid beings. On Krypton, they're pretty much the same as us, minus the super powers under the red sun. So it's understandable why many people aren't bothered by that.

The Turtles however, while anamorphic mutants that walk, talk, and act like humans, are still Turtles. Showing an actually human female character falling in love with one of them just seems....creepy honestly.

What about Shrek? Human princess, regular ogre?

TurtleTitan97
09-27-2014, 02:48 PM
What about Shrek? Human princess, regular ogre?

You mean the same princess that stayed as a ogre after the first film and the sequels after it?

If Fiona remained human after the first movie and still married Shrek, your point may have been a bit more valid.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 02:57 PM
You mean the same princess that stayed as a ogre after the first film and the sequels after it?

If Fiona remained human after the first movie and still married Shrek, your point may have been a bit more valid.

What about Eliza and Goliath in Gargoyles?
Leonardo and Radical via comics?

And anyway, this is nothing like till death do you part, it's just a silly crush that could last like, 2 episodes. People are taking this waaaayyyyy too seriously.

Either way, the TMNT are no longer turtles, they are now half human half turtle. You people are going to have to deal with that. It's not black or white anymore. Never was.

DarkLightDragon
09-27-2014, 03:01 PM
I just think you're taking this too personally rather than this being treated seriously.

snake
09-27-2014, 03:22 PM
Eh. I don't want any more love interests. Casey/Donnie/April is good enough for me.

Warhorse
09-27-2014, 03:26 PM
Good thing you're not in control of the show.

TurtleTitan97
09-27-2014, 03:32 PM
What about Eliza and Goliath in Gargoyles?

While it's true there was something between them, in the end it didn't really result in much in the end, as they never did get together officially.

Leonardo and Radical via comics?

Never did like the idea of it, personally. Still don't


Either way, the TMNT are no longer turtles, they are now half human half turtle. You people are going to have to deal with that. It's not black or white anymore. Never was.

I realize this is just your opionion, but I'm not gonna just "deal with it". The bottom line is that I hate the idea of a human X turtle pairing, and I believe that kinda garbage should just remain in those bad fan fics you see online.

snake
09-27-2014, 03:34 PM
Good thing you're not in control of the show.

I don't your problem today. So what if I don't want more love intrests.

Luckyday
09-27-2014, 03:50 PM
I am not really against the idea but I don't have faith that they can be written well. It seems that their idea to write romances are base on romantic comedies and sitcoms. :ohwell:

If they don't know how to do it then don't it.

IndigoErth
09-27-2014, 05:41 PM
It seems that their idea to write romances are base on romantic comedies and sitcoms. :ohwell:
Wow, weird mental image of TMNT (v2014) twist on the show Friends. I didn't even like Friends... :goof:

Megchan
09-27-2014, 06:19 PM
I think it's an interesting idea, but I don't feel like it will happen. Unless of course the writers decide to go the Apriltello route, but that's still up in the air.

I also don't think there's any problem with the idea that fictional characters, who are anthropomorphic animals, have a relationship of any kind with a human.

We don't only like the turtles in this series because they're anthropomorphic turtles, but because of their personalities and sweet ninja skills. At least that's how I feel. Everyone is allowed to have there own opinion on the topic and as long as no one pushes their views onto me, I'm fine with them not agreeing with me.

BubblyShell22
09-28-2014, 08:52 AM
I wouldn't mind it, but I would want the crush to happen slowly and not all at once. Maybe the human is rescued by one of the Turtles and let's say they're afraid of them at first but then get used to them. Then they become friends and later more. I doubt this will happen though, and if it doesn't, that's what fan fiction is for.

Shark_Blade
09-28-2014, 09:08 AM
It already happened in Mirage comic - I believe Leo had a human woman wife? They slept together even.


In this show I think April and Karai already filled those boots. But hey, bring in human Irma as well for Mikey. Raph already has Casey.

Taartru
09-28-2014, 09:13 AM
Alright, i Don't hope that this is gonna happen. But it is very much possible.

I don't know if they are gonna try Irma, Since irma in the original cartoon once had a small crush on donatello when they went out for some pizza.

Would it be weird? Yeah, it would. But then again, A giant turtle having a crush on a human girl, Is also weird.

Luckyday
09-28-2014, 09:17 AM
Alright, i Don't hope that this is gonna happen. But it is very much possible.

I don't know if they are gonna try Irma, Since irma in the original cartoon once had a small crush on donatello when they went out for some pizza.

Would it be weird? Yeah, it would. But then again, A giant turtle having a crush on a human girl, Is also weird.

Irma herself is weird though. :lol:

IndigoErth
09-28-2014, 01:38 PM
I'm just glad this Irma isn't desperately man hungry all the time like the original was. lol ('Course, this time maybe she's really just been a turtle hungry evil alien blob.)


As for relationships... I dunno, people seem to automatically go with the notion of physical attraction being the starting point and inevitably wanting to do each other.

I could more likely believe/accept a relationship that grows out of familiarity and connecting with a like mind. Something where the more intimate aspects might not actually be involved, but nonetheless have a very deep emotional affection for each other, to the point that they know there is no one else they'd rather spend a life beside, even if it meant giving up some things.

Sort of like, I guess, if you had someone you mutually loved more than anything, an absolute best friend, soulmate kind of deal. But for one reason or another, if you enter a relationship with this person the more intimate aspect will never be a part of it. Do you stay with someone you feel that deeply for, or do you choose in favor of finding someone you love only half as much because it's someone to sleep with. One of the up sides to being human I suppose, having the ability to decide what's more important to you and what you're willing to sacrifice or not.

Warhorse
09-28-2014, 01:57 PM
You know what. I watched an old show last night in sort of a binge, and the whole thing reminds me whats going on with the April/Donnie/Casey/Karai/Leo thing. It was Roswell. Liz was totally April, Max Donnie and Kyle is Casey. Maria is totally Karai and Michael seems to be a hybrid of Leo and Raph. I guess in some sort of effed up way, Isabelle could be Irma and Alex couold be Mikey. But, either way, when Tess shows up, and throws in that whole, like species need to be with like species, that is our destiny, it was an interesting concept to see that Liz could have gone down the safe route with Kyle, Max could have gone down the safe route with Tess, but both scrapped what was right and followed their hearts/the unbeaten path. Same with Michael. He was torn what was the right/natural thing which was Isabelle, but he followed his heart which was Maria. It's an attraction, or bond that is not skin deep. It is complicated, and it should be. Best things in life are those that take hard work and time to get it.

I think it's inevitable we will have a human crushing on a Turtle. (Makes me wonder if we already got one, via Timothy, but his was more often associated with idolism, which can be mistaken as a crush) If anything, it's good character development for the Turtles, it will make them feel like they aren't so alone anymore, which is what I think is the root of Raphael's anger. It's best if it's done slowly. Or, someone they have known for a while, it was all platonic, until that spark hits them like a ton of bricks. (Like the relationship that was going on in the movie The Cutting Edge)

Luckyday
09-28-2014, 01:57 PM
I'm just glad this Irma isn't desperately man hungry all the time like the original was. lol ('Course, this time maybe she's really just been a turtle hungry evil alien blob.)


As for relationships... I dunno, people seem to automatically go with the notion of physical attraction being the starting point and inevitably wanting to do each other.

I could more likely believe/accept a relationship that grows out of familiarity and connecting with a like mind. Something where the more intimate aspects might not actually be involved, but nonetheless have a very deep emotional affection for each other, to the point that they know there is no one else they'd rather spend a life beside, even if it meant giving up some things.

Sort of like, I guess, if you had someone you mutually loved more than anything, an absolute best friend, soulmate kind of deal. But for one reason or another, if you enter a relationship with this person the more intimate aspect will never be a part of it. Do you stay with someone you feel that deeply for, or do you choose in favor of finding someone you love only half as much because it's someone to sleep with. One of the up sides to being human I suppose, having the ability to decide what's more important to you and what you're willing to sacrifice or not.

I assume that's how it feels when you're traveling with the Doctor as a female companion.

Coola Yagami
09-28-2014, 04:04 PM
I'm pretty sure if don and April wanna do it they will. Never mind the science or comparability, sex feels good and if they get together it'll eventually happen.

The thing is, we don't have to see that so who cares what they do once we turn off the tv? I doubt we'll see Splinter talk about how he banged Tang Shen nor will we ever see April's dad consummate with his wife in some flashback explaining how April was born. Nor do we need to see what Karai does in her alone happy time.

The thing is, sex exists but we don't have to see it in a kids cartoon. There's no reason for April and Don will suddenly have their hands all over each other or make 'that's not what you said last night' jokes just because they're a couple. They wouldn't do that if April and Casey got together so why is everyone afraid of them broadcasting their sex life if April chooses Donnie.

BabyTurtles
09-28-2014, 06:02 PM
another girl love interest in the show??

http://media.giphy.com/media/8twlHuAANZ4SQ/giphy.gif

we do not need that.

IndigoErth
09-28-2014, 06:16 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/8twlHuAANZ4SQ/giphy.gif
:lol: Love the gif.

As much as I could agree from the angle of the girls too often being brought into shows as love interests, it would be kinda nice though to someday see a girl be the one who for once initiated a crush first (no matter who it's on).



Edit: I'm sorry...someone's gonna take it too seriously and totally hate it, but just randomly thought how amusing it could be for a female Timothy to show up and make 'em deal with an idolizing fangirl... lol "No, go away... no..."

ssjup81
09-28-2014, 06:16 PM
another girl love interest in the show??

http://media.giphy.com/media/8twlHuAANZ4SQ/giphy.gif

we do not need that.
No, vice-versa. Female character crushing on one f the turtles.

BabyTurtles
09-28-2014, 06:20 PM
No, vice-versa. Female character crushing on one f the turtles.

what I meant was...no more girls brought in for romance at all.

Luckyday
09-28-2014, 06:33 PM
I still would want my interpretation of Mona Lisa being a graduate student that's really into mutant zoology to appear on the show. I bet she would be a fun character to write. She can be like the Jane Goodall of mutants.:lol:

TurtleTitan97
09-28-2014, 06:36 PM
I still would want my interpretation of Mona Lisa being a graduate student that's really into mutant zoology to appear on the show. I bet she would be a fun character to write. She can be like the Jane Goodall of mutants.:lol:

Funny how you mention that. I had a similar idea of that for Mona Lisa who specializes in the research of reptiles (Think Curt Connors from Spider-Man).

Luckyday
09-28-2014, 06:38 PM
Actually it just be really great if we see any adult female characters on the show.

blindturtle02
09-28-2014, 06:43 PM
I can see this happening. I'm thinking of Kala from the old toon. She wasn't a turtle, but I'm pretty sure she was crushing on Mikey. There was the one scene from season 2 of the OT where she and Mikey were on the cheapskate. Not sure what this neutrino chick actually looks like because I never had the fig, but I did have Zak and he was certainly human in appearance. So the humanoid crushing on a turtle has happened before. I thought Irma would fall for Donnie before the season 2 finale. Was sort of hoping for it. Uh, but not after Irma went all SKP. lol Call me a sap, but I think the romance bit in Turtles is sweet. We got turtle crushing on human, so ya never know what the future holds. Wouldn't put it past the writers. They know how to fit it into the stories quite nicely. It's in the 90's X-Men series where Beast falls for a human girl. Heck, Thing has a human girlfriend in more than one incarnation of Fantastic 4. So this isn't exactly unheard of in comic related stuff. Hey, even Cipes says Mikey needs a girlfriend. I think he's stated this more than once. Ciro pointed it out too. Time will tell and all that. I actually hope all the guys get a happily ever after where romance is concerned. So that's my two cents.

IndigoErth
09-28-2014, 06:48 PM
She can be like the Jane Goodall of mutants.:lol:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140628040056/tmnt/images/thumb/c/c6/Mikey_s_begging_face_by_april_o_neil-d5th0ss.png/320px-Mikey_s_begging_face_by_april_o_neil-d5th0ss.png
"Subject A appears to be the most eager to interact, but so far most research has been slow... Spends most of the time staring at me. However I have been able to gather substantial and reasonably valid information on diet and eating behaviors. Largely consists of...pizza."

ssjup81
09-28-2014, 06:51 PM
I can see this happening. I'm thinking of Kala from the old toon. She wasn't a turtle, but I'm pretty sure she was crushing on Mikey. There was the one scene from season 2 of the OT where she and Mikey were on the cheapskate. Not sure what this neutrino chick actually looks like because I never had the fig, but I did have Zak and he was certainly human in appearance. So the humanoid crushing on a turtle has happened before. I thought Irma would fall for Donnie before the season 2 finale. Was sort of hoping for it. Uh, but not after Irma went all SKP. lol Call me a sap, but I think the romance bit in Turtles is sweet. We got turtle crushing on human, so ya never know what the future holds. Wouldn't put it past the writers. They know how to fit it into the stories quite nicely. It's in the 90's X-Men series where Beast falls for a human girl. Heck, Thing has a human girlfriend in more than one incarnation of Fantastic 4. So this isn't exactly unheard of in comic related stuff. Hey, even Cipes says Mikey needs a girlfriend. I think he's stated this more than once. Ciro pointed it out too. Time will tell and all that. I actually hope all the guys get a happily ever after where romance is concerned. So that's my two cents.Mikey had a crush on her too.

blindturtle02
09-28-2014, 06:58 PM
Mikey had a crush on her too.

lol Heck yeah he did!

Warhorse
10-03-2014, 04:20 PM
I just have to wonder. If we do get the Neutrinos into the show, considering how Kala and Mikey seemed to share a moment in the OT, are people going to be like, OK with a Neutrino liking one of the Turtles, but not a human? Maybe even still balk at April even though she isn't 100% human herself?

IndigoErth
10-03-2014, 04:48 PM
I imagine it's likely. Most I assume probably still see April as human, alien genes or not, so still seen as weird. The Neutrino girl probably provides a bit of a buffer in the comfort level since she's not an earthling. Though she looks human enough she can prob have her choice of earth biped.

I dunno.. maybe because we can still relate to April, but accept the other girl as an alien and therefor unrelateable and can't find the feelings that it's equally weird for one of the Turtles to be with an alien. Makes me curious how people would react if Donnie and Ms. Bigfoot had a short fling while the group is up there. o.O

There's two types of people I suppose... those that see their humanity first, and those that see the animal first.

BubblyShell22
10-03-2014, 05:11 PM
Well, if April is revealed to be part Neutrino herself due to her mom, then I don't see the problem with this.

aliena
10-20-2014, 08:15 PM
I was wishing for a new girl to crush on Donnie just to get April to admit she wants him to avoid losing him to another girl, but then we just got Bigfoot. I've never understood all the hate that people have for the turtles to have relations with a woman. They talk, they think, they have souls, are capable of love and they are humanoid, so I don't see why a girl wouldn't fall for one at some point. It might be strange at first, but eventually a girl wouldn't even see them as a turtle anymore once they fall in love with them. The heart wants what the heart wants.

I've often wondered if we would adapt to aliens if they suddenly appeared and began to live among us. Would we see them as alien after we got used to their appearances? Take E.T. for instance, in the beginning of the movie I was sort of freaked out, I was just a kid at the time, but once I adapted to him I didn't think of him as freaky anymore. I think the same could be said of the turtles.

Warhorse
10-20-2014, 09:04 PM
I kind of wanted Irma to meet the Turtles and become friends, and due to her purple coloring and her seeming to be smart, id figure she would make a great friend for Donnie, and it might make April jealous enough so she would stop dragging her feet with Donnie.

IndigoErth
10-20-2014, 09:05 PM
Yeah... esp given there's such thing loving someone for who they are. I mean, look at all those who marry someone who was their best friend for many years, loved them to death but weren't seeing them in that way until they realized one day what they had in front of them.

And if a human woman and one of the Turtles end up being the best of friends and care for each other more than anything else?

I've never understood all the hate that people have for the turtles to have relations with a woman.
I dunno, I suppose if someone finds it difficult to separate the fact that it's fiction in their heads, maybe the human character being involved just hits too close for comfort. Sure it's kind of an awkward thing for fiction to explore, but it's fiction... I can deal. The line of ok non-human and not ok in terms of fictional pairings of still-human-like beings is an odd one. Non-human humanoid aliens...? Sure. Turtles that are in some cases (including this one?) partially human themselves? World ending stuff.

Poor Turtles, does make me sad for them. To be so alone in the world and probably feel so human on the inside... If even in their world it would be wrong on species grounds, then they can't be with anyone. No special someone who will ever feel they are the greatest person to ever exist... :( Imagine not being allowed to have that.

Suppose for that among other reasons they're lucky that they're only fictional. But in trade of having plenty of fans at least who do think they're the greatest.:)

Take E.T. for instance, in the beginning of the movie I was sort of freaked out, I was just a kid at the time, but once I adapted to him I didn't think of him as freaky anymore. I think the same could be said of the turtles.
Or the new TMNT movie itself. :lol: Took me a long time with that one...

BabyTurtles
10-20-2014, 09:18 PM
I was wishing for a new girl to crush on Donnie just to get April to admit she wants him to avoid losing him to another girl, but then we just got Bigfoot. I've never understood all the hate that people have for the turtles to have relations with a woman. They talk, they think, they have souls, are capable of love and they are humanoid, so I don't see why a girl wouldn't fall for one at some point. It might be strange at first, but eventually a girl wouldn't even see them as a turtle anymore once they fall in love with them. The heart wants what the heart wants.
.

Cause I want them to be forever alone!! :x They must realize that all they have is each other, Pals before Gals!!!

XD no but seriously, I don't mind as long as it's done well.

Luckyday
10-20-2014, 09:50 PM
As social experiment, I wonder what would happen if there was mutant girl turtle who was unapologetically inhuman? She could in some debates, be as intelligent as the four but has little to no concept of courage or honor, doesn’t admire the sunset, and doesn’t have notice of social injustice. She wouldn't have the human desire for companionship or the desire to protect or raise her offspring. To her motherhood is how often she can lay her eggs to populate her species, or doesn't know why she does it or even feel the need to explain it.

To others she is seen as evil, but to her self, she just not a human being.

And to make argument even further, she has less human dna and looks more like a turtle so if any turtles for some reason accept her as seasonal mating spouse, or whatever the equivalent for wife in turtle world is, wouldn't it still be consider bestiality?

Well wouldn't it? Hmm
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IndigoErth
10-20-2014, 11:03 PM
lol The guys would have such an identity crisis about their place in the world, poor things.

I imagine this girl would be closer to being the turtle version of Leatherhead, capable of a moderate level of civility but still having the ability/tendency to flip that switch and go full wild mode. Probably end up biting someone, do not piss her off...

wouldn't still be consider bestiality?
If we were to come across a remaining more primitive version of us and slept with them... I assume that we'd probably see it that way to some degree, depending on how primitive. Figure that's probably about the equivalent that would be for the Turtles. The female turtle still being a more primitive being in comparison. More-so if she was a different turtle species all together.

Luckyday
10-20-2014, 11:08 PM
lol The guys would have such an identity crisis about their place in the world, poor things.

I imagine this girl would be closer to being the turtle version of Leatherhead, capable of a moderate level of civility but still having the ability/tendency to flip that switch and go full wild mode. Probably end up biting someone, do not piss her off...

Could her way of flirting for all we know.:lol:

IndigoErth
10-20-2014, 11:11 PM
Could her way of flirting for all we know.:lol:
ROFL

Losing a finger means I love you.

blindturtle02
10-21-2014, 04:32 AM
Well as long as she doesn't go around hissing,"Precious," while biting fingers off, that's cool. And hopefully she'll stick to biting the tentacles off Kraang and leave the turtles' fingers alone. They only have three to begin with! I'd suggest Bitey as a potential nickname, but Homer Simpson already gave that to a possum.

BubblyShell22
10-21-2014, 09:36 AM
Yes, and he gave Mr. Pinchy to a lobster. But it would be interesting to see someone like that in the Turtles' lives for sure.

Shiro Kame
10-23-2014, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't mind, if done right. Such as the said female initially just being a friend before developing feelings. I mean, the turtles in-universe are terrifying to most characters on first sight (Especially in the 3rd episode, where the Cat Owner started freaking out upons seeing Mikey), if the female liked one of the turtles, it would have to be based on personality similarities and interests.

IndigoErth
10-23-2014, 07:22 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much the angle I've been looking at it. Even if the external differences are a bit shocking at first, a girl with her head about her might end up discovering a like mind in one of them, end up with a close connection and able to see the person they are on the inside.

Really though, look at 'em, they're all just a bunch of sweeties deep down, even if Raph wouldn't want to admit it. lol :P Not impossible to think a girl in their world might end up crushing a little on the inner person.

aliena
10-23-2014, 10:39 PM
Yeah... esp given there's such thing loving someone for who they are. I mean, look at all those who marry someone who was their best friend for many years, loved them to death but weren't seeing them in that way until they realized one day what they had in front of them.

And if a human woman and one of the Turtles end up being the best of friends and care for each other more than anything else?


I dunno, I suppose if someone finds it difficult to separate the fact that it's fiction in their heads, maybe the human character being involved just hits too close for comfort. Sure it's kind of an awkward thing for fiction to explore, but it's fiction... I can deal. The line of ok non-human and not ok in terms of fictional pairings of still-human-like beings is an odd one. Non-human humanoid aliens...? Sure. Turtles that are in some cases (including this one?) partially human themselves? World ending stuff.

Poor Turtles, does make me sad for them. To be so alone in the world and probably feel so human on the inside... If even in their world it would be wrong on species grounds, then they can't be with anyone. No special someone who will ever feel they are the greatest person to ever exist... :( Imagine not being allowed to have that.

Suppose for that among other reasons they're lucky that they're only fictional. But in trade of having plenty of fans at least who do think they're the greatest.:)


Or the new TMNT movie itself. :lol: Took me a long time with that one...

Oh man, when I first saw the turtles for the new movie I was really having a rough time of how they looked. I was so angry with how ugly they seemed to be. They were so alien and different. It only took watching all the many previews so many times for me to adapt to them. I'm glad I had adapted before I saw the movie or I might not have liked it as much as I did. Oddly enough, I never thought Donnie was creepy looking. I thought he was cute.

IndigoErth
10-23-2014, 11:07 PM
Oh man, when I first saw the turtles for the new movie I was really having a rough time of how they looked. I was so angry with how ugly they seemed to be. They were so alien and different. It only took watching all the many previews so many times for me to adapt to them. I'm glad I had adapted before I saw the movie or I might not have liked it as much as I did. Oddly enough, I never thought Donnie was creepy looking. I thought he was cute.
Likewise. Took me a few months to warm up a bit to all that...stuff that they did there. Don't know that I will ever be 100% on it, there's some shots that are still all kinds of nope, but then there's some shots that are a total 180 and far more flattering. I have my few fave pics, so that will do. lol

So yeah.. like the E.T. example, or like Shiro Kame saying people in TMNT's world being terrified of them at first... Once we got more of their personalities for the movie, that helped a lot, finally had reason to love the inner them. (Though still sad that Knoxville was stuck in there... By the power of fandom I compel you! Leave this Turtle, demon!)

Luckyday
10-24-2014, 12:05 AM
I think the movie look was befitting to how they were often perceive by normal people.

I know if I meet one of them in dark alley, this would the only thing that would be on my mind.

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supersonicshion
11-20-2014, 09:58 AM
I totally dig the April / Donnie thing going on. :tlol: