Do you guys think the turtles will age progress?

[TonySiegel]

...and do you think the show will last a long time? will it outlive the 2k3 series?

My answer is a resounding yes to all three questions...

[ssjup81]

It seems popular enough. I think there may be a strong possibility of this happening.

[IndigoErth]

Age...have my doubts. Would love it if it happened, though doubt it will go beyond "aging" in terms of increasing skill and to some extent (I hope) maturity. If they physically aged them to where, say, if the show lasted 10 years they'd actually appear to be in their 20s by the time the series closed.... that would be incredible. Might be hard to do that in any kind of gradual sense though given the medium.

Hard to guess how long it may last though I hope it's a long time. Hope it's at least as long as 2003, preferable longer.

[Rukitron]

but they're TEENAGE mutant ninja turtles, that would ruin the point unless they aged just a little.

[JTH]

I don't know about the turtles themselves, but I believe Casey and April will age as the show goes on.

Maybe they could have April show her aging by having her hair grow out more. Which one of Nick's games actually has April with much longer hair than she has in the show.

http://nick.mtvnimages.com/nick/games/images/nickelodeon/slimeball-2-kcs-4x3.jpg?quality=0.75

[Luckyday]

Turtles in real life are stuck as teenagers. If would cool if April and Casey grew while the turtles stay the same so that it would show Donnie how different he is.

It also be pretty sad.:(

[TonySiegel]

interesting thoughts dudes...

i guess i'll have to try to read the mirage series for age progression...

to see them progress in that manner within this show may be just a pipe dream...

[Powder]

The dudes behind the show said they hope to age them up a little bit as time goes on, but I imagine that will have more to do with maturity & competence in battle than their designs & whatnot (though adding a few scars & belt pouches would go a long way, IMO!). As for the longevity of the show, it's hard to say. Besides the fact that it's a kick ass series, Nick definitely has the funding & marketing digs to make this thing run for a loooong time, so I guess it's just a matter of keeping the popularity up, & hopefully with that, the quality. If Ciro were to ever grow tired of being on board, I'd be worried about it going downhill.

[victory_angel]

The 2k3 Turtles are more or less in their 20's by Turtles Forever and the Mirage comics they go quite a bit into their elder years.

[CyberCubed]

Season 4 only got a 20 episode order instead of 26, so they're already cutting down on the episodes produced per season.

4kids TMNT made 156 episodes and then Turtles Forever....Nick TMNT will only have 98 episodes by the end of Season 4.

[Warhorse]

but they're TEENAGE mutant ninja turtles, that would ruin the point unless they aged just a little.

It won't ruin sh!t. It's an easy fix. Abbreviate it to just TMNT. The T of it could stand for Twentysomething Mutant Ninja Turtles, Thirtysomething Mutant Ninja Turtles, or just simply, The Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[Gunpowder]

If anything, they'll just add additional details to the textures that make them look older (much like they did with Leatherhead). Would be cool to see a "future" episode where they're older, though, as I don't think that's been done before with the Turtles. I hope they show them when they were younger, as well.

As for the show's longevity...I see it lasting roughly as long as the 2003 series. Neither longer nor shorter. But that's just a guess. I could also see it lasting longer, seeing as how each season has double the number of episodes as the standard (25 as opposed to the usual 13). So, yes. It could go on for a while - not that I'm complaining.

[snake]

Season 4 only got a 20 episode order instead of 26, so they're already cutting down on the episodes produced per season.

4kids TMNT made 156 episodes and then Turtles Forever....Nick TMNT will only have 98 episodes by the end of Season 4.

4kids had two whole seasons of (mostly) crap though.

[Bry]

...and do you think the show will last a long time? will it outlive the 2k3 series?

My answer is a resounding yes to all three questions...

Actual age-wise? It'd be cool to see them hit young-adulthood at the very end of the run. Characterization-wise, I'm hoping to see them slowly mature. And I think we're already getting some hints of that.

As for the series? The 2003 show had 155 episodes and a movie finale, which is pretty damn impressive in this day and age. I'm sure Nick could match it, but it also has what I'm sure is a higher budget and higher expectations.

I don't need it to last forever. As long as it gets a healthy run, goes out on top and doesn't deteriorate in quality at the end, I'm happy.

[IndigoErth]

The T of it could stand for Twentysomething Mutant Ninja Turtles, Thirtysomething Mutant Ninja Turtles, or just simply, The Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Yess, that works... Twenty-something, Thirty-something...Thirtynine-and-holding...Too-old-to-admit...:P

[Warhorse]

Yess, that works... Twenty-something, Thirty-something...Thirtynine-and-holding...Too-old-to-admit...:P

Hey, whatever works!:P

But it's possible, the Turtles may actually age much slower than humans. Their teenage years could last a hell of a lot longer than 8 to 9 years. Maybe 25 or more. I thought I read somewhere, that they do live longer than humans. I thought there was a comic once where Leo was in it, and he was over 200 years old and still kicking ass. No?

[Luckyday]

Well turtles themselves don't age. They might get bigger like lobsters but they don't decay like us mammals. Their organs and stuff are virtual identical to a youngster.

[Refractive Reflections]

In terms of physical body development, meh.... it could be interesting to see. :ohwell: As for maturity, it's very difficult to say because the second season has been mostly a disappointment for me except for maybe 7-8 episodes, plus I believe I remembering hearing Nick voiced their concerns about the Season 2 finale being too dark. So it's difficult to speculate just how far, and if there will be substantial progress to their maturity considering this series has a habit of plot amnesia, and most of its enthusiasm comes from introducing new mutants and the Krang's more expanded plot of Earth conquest rather than focusing on building more character-driven experiences.

For the longevity of the series though, at the very most and if the viewership ratings can increase back to its Season 1 ratings, I could see it barely reaching 7 seasons. At this point though, I guessing most likely 5 seasons because the viewership numbers just don't seem impressive enough for Nick wanting to make it last. Though I have to say that the scheduling of releasing the new episodes have been poor, such as not airing anything last December (the holiday season), last January (during the unseasonably cold temperatures when kids were indoors), and this August (during the 2014 movie's run).

[NinjaPug]

Ciro said he has a 5 season story he wants to tell. Could he go longer? Sure, but I don't think we'll get as many episodes as the 2k3 series got.

[CyberCubed]

4kids had two whole seasons of (mostly) crap though.

And that's completely false. Don't let these old fogey's on the forum influence your opinion.

[snake]

And that's completely false. Don't let these old fogey's on the forum influence your opinion.

Its not false. BTTS was horrible, and I saw the entirety of the show even before I joined the forums. FF is pretty bad, but I like some elements of it.

[CyberCubed]

Its not false. BTTS was horrible, and I saw the entirety of the show even before I joined the forums. FF is pretty bad, but I like some elements of it.

FF had many great episodes. BTTS is the weakest season, but there are still some great episodes like, "The Engagement ring" "Hacking Stockman" the Wedding finale, the first episode where they go back in time, and the second one where Khan is introduced.

[Gunpowder]

And that's completely false. Don't let these old fogey's on the forum influence your opinion.

Having an opinion on something makes it neither true nor false. His opinion is that it's crap, and yours is that it's good. Simple as that.

[Jester]

I expect it to happen.

I also think it's be a cool bit to introduce Renet and have her show them their future selves.

[snake]

FF had many great episodes. BTTS is the weakest season, but there are still some great episodes like, "The Engagement ring" "Hacking Stockman" the Wedding finale, the first episode where they go back in time, and the second one where Khan is introduced.

I didn't like any of those except Hacking Stockman.

[CyberCubed]

The Engagement ring was a fantastic episode.

[ToTheNines]

No it wasn't.

[ssjup81]

The Engagement ring was a fantastic episode.I just don't understand why it's difficult to grasp that just because you like something that everyone else will.

I liked that Pizzaface and Shellacne ep from 2k12 and lord knows many people disliked those eps.

[Shark_Blade]

I expect something like Same As It Never Was scenario.

[BubblyShell22]

I'd love to see them age eventually if the show goes that route. We know they'll mature to some degree, and I can't wait to see that type of progression. I'd love to see a future episode similar to SAINW or something else, and I'd also love to see them when they're younger, too, through flashbacks.

As for how long this show lasts, I don't know. It's so good, I'd love to see it go for a few seasons more, but that depends on the ratings. I am a bit worried that season 4 is only 20 episodes instead of the standard 26 we've been given. Not sure if that's a sign that this is going to wrap up or not. But whatever happens, happens. I'll stick around for the show as long as it lasts and as long as it has closure.

[TonySiegel]

I'd love to see them age eventually if the show goes that route. We know they'll mature to some degree, and I can't wait to see that type of progression. I'd love to see a future episode similar to SAINW or something else, and I'd also love to see them when they're younger, too, through flashbacks.

As for how long this show lasts, I don't know. It's so good, I'd love to see it go for a few seasons more, but that depends on the ratings. I am a bit worried that season 4 is only 20 episodes instead of the standard 26 we've been given. Not sure if that's a sign that this is going to wrap up or not. But whatever happens, happens. I'll stick around for the show as long as it lasts and as long as it has closure.

Imagine the TMNT movie sequel comes out... it becomes highly successful... they cancel the current nick series and come out with a new cartoon series based on the movie universe/designs...

oh the humanity!

[Don77]

It will be great. I want them to become more like 2003 turtles designs in the future. To look more mature

[Cowabunga Carl]

Imagine the TMNT movie sequel comes out... it becomes highly successful... they cancel the current nick series and come out with a new cartoon series based on the movie universe/designs...

oh the humanity!

I could see this happening. I don't think we will have a huge gap between versions of the Turtles, and some of them I'm sure will be a little out there. I'm okay with that though. As long as each version brings something unique and isn't just a cash grab.

[Shark_Blade]

I don't mind Bay turtles cartoon series. Their app game looks fun too.

[snake]

I don't mind Bay turtles cartoon series. Their app game looks fun too.

I wouldn't like a Bay 'toon if it had the same writers as the movie.

[IndigoErth]

A series spinoff in the future for 2014 - after 2012 has run it's course - might be interesting, provided they could translate the design into something reasonable that works for a series and looks decent enough. I can't see it remaining CGI without either costing 10x the amount of the current series or having to cut back on so much quality that it looks sucky. 2D would be nice if it looks good. (But voice Leo closer to how he usually is in the various series please...)


As to the current existing series on topic... a Same as it Never Was might be interesting... but would prefer it minus any deaths. :\

[BubblyShell22]

Imagine the TMNT movie sequel comes out... it becomes highly successful... they cancel the current nick series and come out with a new cartoon series based on the movie universe/designs...

oh the humanity!

If they based a cartoon off of the Bay movie, I wouldn't watch it.