NYCC 2014 TMNT panel

[PangolinFeets]

This is probably the thing I am looking forward to most at NYCC. Is anyone else here going? They'll only be one episode into S3 by the panel, but I hear rumors that much will be discussed.

[Konchadunga]

I'm looking forward to hearing whether they get boos over recent events.

[plastroncafe]

If I can get in, I'll be there.
Though, I guess I should get caught up on the Nick Toon before I do.

[Luckyday]

Let me know if marathoning through show has improve your viewing experience.

[plastroncafe]

Count on it. :D

[CyberCubed]

Tell Ciro to add more females to the show.

[Super Goku]

I would go if it was practical. Right now, I don't have the time or funds.

My question is will the real Irma be in season 3? I feel like we need to start a #BringBackIrma campaign for the internet, lol, not really. :tgrin: The internet seems to give viewers more power. An example would be the Veronica Mars movie and KickStarter.

[PangolinFeets]

Tell Ciro to add more females to the show.

I was thinking about asking that during Q&A. Its kinda my biggest complaint atm. Irma is gone and they pressed reset on Karai. Gimme Angel, please.

[Super Goku]

All we need is a Kraang prison break episode, where the turtles find Irma and some other captured humans. Perhaps even the Earth Protection Force could rescue them. The Kraang are good at replicating stuff, an example of this is all of those April clones they made.

I remember Angel, she was in the Purple Dragons for a short time in the 2k3 series if I remember correctly.

[plastroncafe]

Tell Ciro to add more females to the show.

But Cyber, we're full up. He said so himself.
We've got a good girl, and a bad girl.

Besides, female characters are too difficult for the writers' room, they just get too powerful.

[Bry]

I was thinking about asking that during Q&A. Its kinda my biggest complaint atm. Irma is gone and they pressed reset on Karai. Gimme Angel, please.

I'd be very happy to see Angel! It'd be easy for them to go the IDW route and make her a childhood friend of Casey's.

[pl212]

I'll be there.
Interested in finding out new info on season 3 and the deal with Karai.

[snake]

I'll be there. I'll probably ask about a shark mutant of any kind.

[TonySiegel]

probably going to go to the panel... depending on the line and stuff like that...

[IndigoErth]

No... kinda wish I could. Still kicking myself over 2012. Only convention I've ever been to... and I wasn't back within the fanbase yet, was not yet aware a new series had started and was 'stuck' there behind a vendor table the entire time anyhow... *sigh* What I wouldn't give now to replay that and attend the first panel for this series.

[ssjup81]

No... kinda wish I could. Still kicking myself over 2012. Only convention I've ever been to... and I wasn't back within the fanbase yet, was not yet aware a new series had started and was 'stuck' there behind a vendor table the entire time anyhow... *sigh* What I wouldn't give now to replay that and attend the first panel for this series.You went to NYCC in 2012? I did too! I met Cowabunga Corner's Ivy and took her picture. I didn't know about Cowabunga Corner yet at the time so it hit me after the fact. I just thought her merch and stuff was cool and that she was a huge turtles fan.

Sucks I wasn't into Nick's show yet then.

[IndigoErth]

You went to NYCC in 2012? I did too! I met Cowabunga Corner's Ivy and took her picture. I didn't know about Cowabunga Corner yet at the time so it hit me after the fact. I just thought her merch and stuff was cool and that she was a huge turtles fan.

Sucks I wasn't into Nick's show yet then.
:D Awesome! (So you made it out alive, too, huh? Is that convention always that crowded?? lol)

[Warhorse]

Tell Ciro to add more females to the show.

Or, he could just do something with the ones he's already got. De-mutate Karai, turn Leo's little tea time friend into like Angel or Casey's sister (or combine both). Show that Irma is not just a robot, but some poor girl trapped by the Kraang and the Turtles have to break her out.

[Konchadunga]

I would go if it was practical. Right now, I don't have the time or funds.

My question is will the real Irma be in season 3? I feel like we need to start a #BringBackIrma campaign for the internet, lol, not really. :tgrin: The internet seems to give viewers more power. An example would be the Veronica Mars movie and KickStarter.

Is that a joke? Do you really think the Internet giving viewers more power is a bad thing? I think a twitter campaign is a great idea. How is a hashtag started?

[ssjup81]

An adult female would be nice...:D Awesome! (So you made it out alive, too, huh? Is that convention always that crowded?? lol)Yup and a giant bag of stuff to haul back to Virginia to prove it. lol

I'm going to assume that it is always that crowded and I made a mistake. I went in 2011. I'd moved back to Japan in early 2012.

[PangolinFeets]

The crowding has gotten exponentially worse each year. I've been going since 2005 and it didn't even start selling out of tickets until recently. Maybe the past three years or so. And even then the tickets would sell out a few months after they went on sale, not minutes later. I'm a little scared this year.

[Super Goku]

Is that a joke? Do you really think the Internet giving viewers more power is a bad thing? I think a twitter campaign is a great idea. How is a hashtag started?

I think you must have misunderstood my post. I think viewers having more power using the Internet to communicate with companies or writers is a great idea. I don't have Twitter, I just don't want to get on there right now, so I'm not sure how the hashtag starting works. I would guess it is easy to do, the #BringBackIrma campaign should become a reality.

[Midnight Mutant]

I just want Tokka and turtle tots damnit!
I'm sure it's been asked about a BILLION times tho.

I'd say ask about Irma, but I feel like they will give extremely vague answers to it. Either meaning they don't want to deal with it, or they already have something planned.

I hope some of the clips or eps have some Mondo in it. I'm not a fan of the character from the original show, but I'm DYING to know what he's like in this one, especially with the voice actor he has!

[PangolinFeets]

Well I'm going to take whatever video I can. If not, I'll live tweet everything and transcribe later.

[Luckyday]

So what day is the panel on? Saturday?

[PangolinFeets]

Friday at 3pm. The official deets:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stephanie_Sanford/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-10-02-22-14-05_zps36894ddb.png

[Konchadunga]

The #bringbackirma tag is live!

[MaximeLoonatic]

Tell Ciro to add more females to the show.

Ask him about Irma!

[Luckyday]

The #bringbackirma tag is live!

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[matteso586]

I have question suggestions for those of you who are going to NYCC 2014.

* Yeah, go with the whole Irma thing. Either by asking why they portrayed her as a Kraang robot, or was she just replaced.

* Are we going to see Agent Bishop? The Earth Protection Force were in The Invasion Part 2.

* Will we be seeing Pigeon Pete, Rockwell, Sir Malachi, and Mutant Spy-Roach again?

* What are the chances that the Mighty Mutantanimals will be formed?

* Is Miyamoto Usagi the rival that sliced Tiger Claws tail?

[Ninjinister]

I'm looking forward to hearing whether they get boos over recent events.

Did I miss something...?

[BubblyShell22]

Kochadunga is referring to the whole Irma plot twist reveal.

[Ninjinister]

Kochadunga is referring to the whole Irma plot twist reveal.

That's nothing to boo over.

[BubblyShell22]

I agree with you on that, but many were not happy with it, so that's why they're saying that. I happened to like it a lot.

[snake]

Ciro and the gang will usually not answer "whats going to happen" questions, or at least give vague answers.

[NinjaPug]

What exactly did people like about Irma's character in this version? Was she even in the show enough for some of you to form this kind of attachment where you want to go to NYCC just to complain to Ciro? I don't get it.

[TurtleTitan97]

What exactly did people like about Irma's character in this version? Was she even in the show enough for some of you to form this kind of attachment where you want to go to NYCC just to complain to Ciro? I don't get it.

^ This. We didn't even see her as much as Casey or April, so I'm not that attached to the character.

[snake]

What exactly did people like about Irma's character in this version? Was she even in the show enough for some of you to form this kind of attachment where you want to go to NYCC just to complain to Ciro? I don't get it.

She was female? Its the only trait she had, honestly.

[IndigoErth]

I honestly never even liked her much as a character - her personality just kind of rubbed me the wrong way - but I liked it as a slowly growing storyline and the curiosity to see where it would eventually go. It's the potential storyline I will miss if it's just over point blank.

[Ninjinister]

I agree with you on that, but many were not happy with it, so that's why they're saying that. I happened to like it a lot.

Even then what sort of grown adults would openly boo a children's show en masse for such a reason...
Wait... forgot where I was.

[Warhorse]

^ This. We didn't even see her as much as Casey or April, so I'm not that attached to the character.

Well, I liked her better than April because she seemed to have more of a personality. April is just there right now. Either she's complaining or explaining stuff, but, we still don't know anything about her. Not to mention, Irma's get up was so wild and interesting, one could only guess what her character would develop into if she was explored more.

[TurtleTitan97]

Well, I liked her better than April because she seemed to have more of a personality. April is just there right now. Either she's complaining or explaining stuff, but, we still don't know anything about her. Not to mention, Irma's get up was so wild and interesting, one could only guess what her character would develop into if she was explored more.

To each their own.

Like I said, I never got that attached to "Irma" since we saw so little of her.

[Warhorse]

To each their own.

Like I said, I never got that attached to "Irma" since we saw so little of her.

A character doesn't need to be there all of the time to have some interest. The little girl who had tea with Leo is a bit of a favorite for the fans on this show, and they hope she comes back, even though she was only really seen in one episode. Look at the following Mona Lisa from the OT has, and she was in only one episode.

[NinjaPug]

What did Irma have - 10 to 15 lines total all season? How can anyone be so upset that she's gone? She was barely in the show to begin with.

[TurtleTitan97]

A character doesn't need to be there all of the time to have some interest. The little girl who had tea with Leo is a bit of a favorite for the fans on this show, and they hope she comes back, even though she was only really seen in one episode. Look at the following Mona Lisa from the OT has, and she was in only one episode.

Look, I realize this is your own opinion, but I still stand by what I said.

What did Irma have - 10 to 15 lines total all season? How can anyone be so upset that she's gone? She was barely in the show to begin with.

So true.

[Warhorse]

What did Irma have - 10 to 15 lines total all season? How can anyone be so upset that she's gone? She was barely in the show to begin with.

Because she was cooler than April! I miss Karai too. I wish it was April who was mutated and left in the city and Karai, never mutated, came with the Turtles and Casey instead.

[NinjaPug]

What did Irma say or do that made her "cooler than April"?

[zodiac brave]

What exactly did people like about Irma's character in this version? Was she even in the show enough for some of you to form this kind of attachment where you want to go to NYCC just to complain to Ciro? I don't get it.

honestly, i thought she was a great way to shine a lil bit of light into april's non-tmnt life. granted they didnt do too much of that, but on her own, she seemed to have quite a bit of character potential. i never really overly liked or disliked her, but my gf did.

my gf isn't a CRAZY HARD CORE tmnt fan, but she knows what she likes and is definitley a fan of the show. she doesnt follow the show online or behind the scenes or anything like a lot of us, but when the irma reveal happened, she was pretty disappointed. i was surprised, as i wasn't aware that she was such an irma fan and she told me it was for a couple of reasons i can totally see being valid for other people who liked her. first was storyline wise...she liked the idea that there was one character on the show that wasn't a super hero. she could relate to that. secondly, she liked that irma was representitive of a type of girl who was, i guess..."alt". she liked her style and really liked that she wasn't a stick and had a more realistic model in terms of body. she's also a fan of kate micucci, so she was bummed her voice might not be a part of the show anymore.

i mean, its true that irma wasn't a HUGE part of the show, but neither was the tea party girl or ice cream kitty, both of whom seem to have a devoted fan base. (my gf being a part of those, as well.)

[miru]

* I'd ask him about what characters they won't bring back.

[matteso586]

Are a few of you saying that you don't want any of those Irma theories to be true? And can we go back to the topic of this thread?

[Warhorse]

OK. Someone ask Ciro if he or someone who has been in charge of the past few episodes have some vendetta agains Raphael or his fans, or both? Because lately, it sure seems like it.

[Luckyday]

honestly, i thought she was a great way to shine a lil bit of light into april's non-tmnt life. granted they didnt do too much of that, but on her own, she seemed to have quite a bit of character potential. i never really overly liked or disliked her, but my gf did.

my gf isn't a CRAZY HARD CORE tmnt fan, but she knows what she likes and is definitley a fan of the show. she doesnt follow the show online or behind the scenes or anything like a lot of us, but when the irma reveal happened, she was pretty disappointed. i was surprised, as i wasn't aware that she was such an irma fan and she told me it was for a couple of reasons i can totally see being valid for other people who liked her. first was storyline wise...she liked the idea that there was one character on the show that wasn't a super hero. she could relate to that. secondly, she liked that irma was representitive of a type of girl who was, i guess..."alt". she liked her style and really liked that she wasn't a stick and had a more realistic model in terms of body. she's also a fan of kate micucci, so she was bummed her voice might not be a part of the show anymore.

i mean, its true that irma wasn't a HUGE part of the show, but neither was the tea party girl or ice cream kitty, both of whom seem to have a devoted fan base. (my gf being a part of those, as well.)

So I guess Irma has universal appeal to goes beyond us fans. You knew? Man, I would hate to be the guy who thought up the Kraang bot twist.

[Warhorse]

So I guess Irma has universal appeal to goes beyond us fans. You knew? Man, I would hate to be the guy who thought up the Kraang bot twist.

My cousin and her daughter both loved Irma. They just loved the whole sassy, glasses, streaks in her hair thing going on, and boy were they pissed when they saw what happened. The little one (she's 9) I had to tell her that was just the fake Irma, the real one is being held hostage, waiting for her Michelangelo to save her. That put a big smile on my little cousins face. I just hope this is true.:cry:

[RedOnYellow]

I would have gladly traded Irma for Krang SubPrime. The two minutes he was on the show were amazing and had me laughing all the way through. Finally, a Krang other than Prime that had a character.

Then he had to go and die. I understand it's Gottfried and you can't really keep him around, but dang...

[plastroncafe]

I don't understand why Krang Subprime couldn't have been voiced by the woman who played Irma.

Very disappointed in that particular turn of events. Just when we thought maybe April could have some sort of a life that wasn't Love Interest or McGuffin...and it turns out to be a dude in drag the entire time.

[Super Goku]

My cousin and her daughter both loved Irma. They just loved the whole sassy, glasses, streaks in her hair thing going on, and boy were they pissed when they saw what happened. The little one (she's 9) I had to tell her that was just the fake Irma, the real one is being held hostage, waiting for her Michelangelo to save her. That put a big smile on my little cousins face. I just hope this is true.:cry:

I too hope that the real Irma is out there. It wasn't that I was a big Irma fan before she was revealed to be Kraang Subprime, it was that we had an established character that was originally in the original cartoon, and then she was just taken out of the show in a big sudden shocking moment. It seemed like someone who didn't understand character development or how to properly introduce characters just threw the Kraang Subprime reveal into the episode to get the plot moving. Now I am a big Irma fan. I understand those who didn't care much, since Irma didn't have that big of a role on the show, but I'm part of the group of fans who like her.

[Luckyday]

I don't understand why Krang Subprime couldn't have been voiced by the woman who played Irma.

Very disappointed in that particular turn of events. Just when we thought maybe April could have some sort of a life that wasn't Love Interest or McGuffin...and it turns out to be a dude in drag the entire time.

By the way, how was the marathon experience? Were the problems more apparent or did binge watching gave you less time to think about them?

[Ninjinister]

I don't understand why Krang Subprime couldn't have been voiced by the woman who played Irma.

Very disappointed in that particular turn of events. Just when we thought maybe April could have some sort of a life that wasn't Love Interest or McGuffin...and it turns out to be a dude in drag the entire time.

omg stop with the trans shaming

[Super Goku]

My guess is that if asked about Irma at NYCC 2014, we will just get a "wait and see" answer. Irma might be out there, but only if there is a need to bring her back. Part of that need could be fan demand.

If she doesn't come back, then okay, but it would be nice if she did come back. Even if for just one more episode, to show that she's okay.

[Warhorse]

My guess is that if asked about Irma at NYCC 2014, we will just get a "wait and see" answer. Irma might be out there, but only if there is a need to bring her back. Part of that need could be fan demand.

If she doesn't come back, then okay, but it would be nice if she did come back. Even if for just one more episode, to show that she's okay.

If the creators intentions all along were to have Irma be a robot, and then just to never be seen again but then are forced to bring her back because of fan demand (maybe Nick execs or Playmates could force the change) this could be bad because the creators just might take Irma and really bastardize her character as a final FU to anyone questioning their storytelling.

[plastroncafe]

By the way, how was the marathon experience? Were the problems more apparent or did binge watching gave you less time to think about them?

Still bothered by Nice Guy Donnie.
The rest of the episodes were great though.

I will never tire of Fightin' Splinter.

omg stop with the trans shaming

You're cute.

[Luckyday]

If the creators intentions all along were to have Irma be a robot, and then just to never be seen again but then are forced to bring her back because of fan demand (maybe Nick execs or Playmates could force the change) this could be bad because the creators just might take Irma and really bastardize her character as a final FU to anyone questioning their storytelling.

I wouldn't past them on that.

[plastroncafe]

I say Bring It On.

At the moment there are really only two action figures from the new toon I'd gladly pay money for: Irma and Metalhead.

Okay...maybe icecream kitty too.
He's so damn cute.

[CyberCubed]

Since all of Season 3 is likely scripted already, you probably wouldn't see Irma again till Season 4 if they choose to bring her back at all.

[Super Goku]

If the creators intentions all along were to have Irma be a robot, and then just to never be seen again but then are forced to bring her back because of fan demand (maybe Nick execs or Playmates could force the change) this could be bad because the creators just might take Irma and really bastardize her character as a final FU to anyone questioning their storytelling.

So maybe if Irma comes back, she won't act like the Irma we want then. I don't know. I kind of think that the writers didn't know what to do with her character and thought the Kraang Subprime plot twist would be a great way to get her out of the show, start the Kraang invasion, and introduce Kraang Subprime. I really hope she does come back. Now on the other way of thinking of this, if she wasn't Kraang Subprime, she might be a mutant like Kirby O'Neil is right now. I'm expecting everyone to be turned back into humans with retromutagen at some point though. Also I think some pigeons were mutated, so they need to be turned back to normal too. :tgrin:

[snake]

Since all of Season 3 is likely scripted already, you probably wouldn't see Irma again till Season 4 if they choose to bring her back at all.

Who says they won't bring her back for season three?

[Super Goku]

Who says they won't bring her back for season three?

Nobody says that. I think it is a 50/50 chance she comes back this season. The Turtle Terminator episode of the original cartoon has Irma replaced with a robot. This might be a different take on that...... or it might not be.

[Luckyday]

Who says they won't bring her back for season three?

Maybe Ciro just out of spite?

[Super Goku]

I can't decide if Irma being a Kraang the entire time or the possibility of her being human and then mutated later would be worse.

My guess is Karai will be turned back to a human later this season. Snake Karai seems to just be one story and a way to sell a new action figure.

[Warhorse]

I say Bring It On.

At the moment there are really only two action figures from the new toon I'd gladly pay money for: Irma and Metalhead.

Okay...maybe icecream kitty too.
He's so damn cute.

Way more than me. Only one I care for is the Lego Raph with the full bandana, and I think that one is from the movie. HA, go figure. I hate the movie, but I at least like something toy worthy from it! But, I did buy the Pop Secret Kettle Corn popcorn with Raph on it!:D

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5556/15108714957_3839f5b8f4_m.jpg

I actually bought the Mikey one too because I just love white cheddar popcorn.

[Super Goku]

I say Bring It On.

At the moment there are really only two action figures from the new toon I'd gladly pay money for: Irma and Metalhead.

Okay...maybe icecream kitty too.
He's so damn cute.

We might get an Ice cream kitty action figure at some point.

If Playmates doesn't want to make a single carded Irma or human Karai, they could be build-a-figures for collecting a few figures, or maybe limited edition convention exclusives or collect UPCs and send in for a mail exclusive figure.

[Luckyday]

From a toy maker stand point, why her turn back to normal if she has shift shaper abilities of turning back to her human form?

[Super Goku]

I don't know, but I kind of assumed even in human form after the mutation, that she isn't as human as she was before.

[NinjaPug]

Jesus Christ this is getting ridiculous. Ciro didn't do anything to your precious Irma out of spite. The big twist was probably his intention for Irma all along.

And Cubed is right. If Ciro didn't plan on bringing her back then you won't see her until season 4 simply due to the production time required for each episode. I doubt Ciro would give in to fan pressure over such a trivial character and bring her back anyway. At least I hope he wouldn't.

[Super Goku]

I guess it might come down to, if we want to see Irma, watch the original cartoon.

Where is Irma?! :trazz:

Just one more Irma episode, is all I ask. Preferably she returns as a series regular character. At this point, maybe even a cameo would be good, to prove she is out there.

[miru]

We might get an Ice cream kitty action figure at some point.

If Playmates doesn't want to make a single carded Irma or human Karai, they could be build-a-figures for collecting a few figures, or maybe limited edition convention exclusives or collect UPCs and send in for a mail exclusive figure.

ICK is small enough to be an accessory.

[Super Goku]

ICK is small enough to be an accessory.

I agree with you, but I can imagine Playmates making her/him bigger.

[Luckyday]

I can totally see them making a plush version of ICK at Build the Bear.

[Warhorse]

Jesus Christ this is getting ridiculous. Ciro didn't do anything to your precious Irma out of spite. The big twist was probably his intention for Irma all along.

And Cubed is right. If Ciro didn't plan on bringing her back then you won't see her until season 4 simply due to the production time required for each episode. I doubt Ciro would give in to fan pressure over such a trivial character and bring her back anyway. At least I hope he wouldn't.

Yeah, I'd forfeit Irma, if us Raph fans can get the Raphael that is not a complete joke/screw up/absent for all the fighting scenes/useless to the team crap that we have been getting. Enough is enough already.

[BubblyShell22]

Jesus Christ this is getting ridiculous. Ciro didn't do anything to your precious Irma out of spite. The big twist was probably his intention for Irma all along.

And Cubed is right. If Ciro didn't plan on bringing her back then you won't see her until season 4 simply due to the production time required for each episode. I doubt Ciro would give in to fan pressure over such a trivial character and bring her back anyway. At least I hope he wouldn't.

^ This. Totally this. Also, you have to remember that there is the possibility that Irma is still out there. I doubt they'd introduce her just to get rid of her. The Kraang plot worked perfectly with what they wanted to do, and it gave that shock value they were looking for. No big deal here.

[snake]

I can totally see them making a plush version of ICK at Build the Bear.

I really want a plush ICK.

[PangolinFeets]

I really want a plush ICK.

I'm just making one. I don't expect to see her on shelves. :(
I'm also making my cat Ice Cream Kitty for Halloween.

[Luckyday]

Maybe the top of ICK should be of cotton/stuffing whatever and the bottom part should be filled with bean bag material so that it can stand on a shelf.:P

[Leofan26]

Is thing Sunday? Legend of Korra one is. Also are they giving us some thing special?

I guess the Legend of Korra panel is giving a view of the second episode of season four.

[BubblyShell22]

No, the TMNT panel is on Friday.

[PangolinFeets]

Is thing Sunday? Legend of Korra one is. Also are they giving us some thing special?

I guess the Legend of Korra panel is giving a view of the second episode of season four.

The Korra panel is Thursday.

[miru]

If the creators intentions all along were to have Irma be a robot, and then just to never be seen again but then are forced to bring her back because of fan demand (maybe Nick execs or Playmates could force the change) this could be bad because the creators just might take Irma and really bastardize her character as a final FU to anyone questioning their storytelling.

Or maybe even KILL HER OFF.

[Konchadunga]

^ This. Totally this. Also, you have to remember that there is the possibility that Irma is still out there. I doubt they'd introduce her just to get rid of her. The Kraang plot worked perfectly with what they wanted to do, and it gave that shock value they were looking for. No big deal here.

Just because someone doesn't intend harm doesn't mean they don't cause it. Just because a writer thinks he's hot stuff doesn't mean we all have to nod our heads and agree.

Seriously; I'm getting sick of all these conventions, interviews and press movies where Nieli and company just flex their egos and revel in every decision they make like it's a great one, and the people clap like trained seals. It's high time they hear from the people who hate Apriltello. (I don't, but I understand the hate.). It's time they hear from the people who maybe like the pairing but hate the love triangle. The people who want April and Casey and whatever other humans exist in this world to be shown to have a life; instead of just being pieces in the Turtles' lives. The people who think it was moronic to mutate Karai (and contrary to what was said at the San Diego convention, in a big way it does not make her even more badass. ) The people who've had it up with all this mutation, period. (Vomit monsters? Really?!)

Creators should have to face their detractors from time to time. If the people who love everything about their work are the only ones who matter, they don't need to talk to them at all. If they really have no intentions to make any changes to their plans, they shouldn't bother pretending to be communicative. Ciro Nieli's creation is wearing out its welcome. The Irma bit was just one of many groan-inducing things about it.

[Luckyday]

^ This. Totally this. Also, you have to remember that there is the possibility that Irma is still out there. I doubt they'd introduce her just to get rid of her. The Kraang plot worked perfectly with what they wanted to do, and it gave that shock value they were looking for. No big deal here.

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gif

[Warhorse]

Just because someone doesn't intend harm doesn't mean they don't cause it. Just because a writer thinks he's hot stuff doesn't mean we all have to nod our heads and agree.

Seriously; I'm getting sick of all these conventions, interviews and press movies where Nieli and company just flex their egos and revel in every decision they make like it's a great one, and the people clap like trained seals. It's high time they hear from the people who hate Apriltello. (I don't, but I understand the hate.). It's time they hear from the people who maybe like the pairing but hate the love triangle. The people who want April and Casey and whatever other humans exist in this world to be shown to have a life; instead of just being pieces in the Turtles' lives. The people who think it was moronic to mutate Karai (and contrary to what was said at the San Diego convention, in a big way it does not make her even more badass. ) The people who've had it up with all this mutation, period. (Vomit monsters? Really?!)

Creators should have to face their detractors from time to time. If the people who love everything about their work are the only ones who matter, they don't need to talk to them at all. If they really have no intentions to make any changes to their plans, they shouldn't bother pretending to be communicative. Ciro Nieli's creation is wearing out its welcome. The Irma bit was just one of many groan-inducing things about it.

I have seen on Facebook and other blogs that because of this Ciro dude, and his comments on how females are too hard for him to write because they get too powerful, kind of pissed off a lot of female fans and have stopped watching any show he's involved with. I guess he's never heard of the expression, if you can't say nothing nice, then don't say anything at all. It's a shame he feels that way. Everyone that I personally know that watches TMNT, are females. Unfortunately for everyone involved, many of them did like Irma pre robot.

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gif

They say a lot of sh!t that ends up false.

[Luckyday]

That is true. I guess this only shows how much egg are on their faces.

[ssjup81]

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gifIf this the case...oh well. Loved the twist, still not keen on there not being a real Irma for reasons mentioned that would make sense if she was a Kraangbot part of the time, not the entire time.

[matteso586]

I have seen on Facebook and other blogs that because of this Ciro dude, and his comments on how females are too hard for him to write because they get too powerful, kind of pissed off a lot of female fans and have stopped watching any show he's involved with. I guess he's never heard of the expression, if you can't say nothing nice, then don't say anything at all. It's a shame he feels that way. Everyone that I personally know that watches TMNT, are females. Unfortunately for everyone involved, many of them did like Irma pre robot.



They say a lot of sh!t that ends up false.

You mean like how they announced that Slash will be an ally to the Turtles, but didn't start as one in Slash and Destroy?

[Warhorse]

You mean like how they announced that Slash will be an ally to the Turtles, but didn't start as one in Slash and Destroy?

Or, when the storyboards dealing with Karai asking Shredder if Splinter was her father surfaced, and someone asked Ciro about it, he said it was fake. And then, OMG, it became true. They are not going to come out right and spoil stuff for the fans, they want to keep you guessing. I may not like many of the things that have transpired, but I do like some of the surprises that do come up. I get a bit perturbed with how Raph is sometimes (turkey head, messing up alot, not being there for major fight scenes) but I do like the times when he does show his protector side, and when he does show up, he kicks all sorts of ass. I am just hoping that the writers do something with him seeing Shredder throw down Splinter, and it's he who gets personal with the Shredder for once, and not Leo. Or, maybe both of them have payback while the other two are kicking the asses of Rahzar and Tigerclaw.

[miru]

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gif

Fan-demand is a strong thing.

[MaximeLoonatic]

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gif

Who exactly said it?

[Bry]

One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.:(

http://i.imgur.com/UpVMqGC.gif

I can't say I'm devastated or anything - I liked Irma well enough and I do think she served a purpose, but the reveal was a shocker and I really appreciate how they pulled that off. I'd be happy if they brought a "real Irma" into the show, but if they choose not to I can respect that too.

I do think it's important to add more fully-developed female characters, though. Karai is one of the better characters on the show, but I'm concerned that her mutation will sideline her a bit for the time being. And I like April, and she has potential, but the focus on the Casey-Donnie triangle really sells her short as a character and it seems to have put the brakes on her own development.

I've said it before, but I think Angel would be a strong addition to the cast right about now.

(And hey, excellent gif choice!)

[snake]

I'm just making one. I don't expect to see her on shelves. :(
I'm also making my cat Ice Cream Kitty for Halloween.

Thats adorable. Post pics please.

[Luckyday]

Who exactly said it?

One of the writers, Brandon Auman, said that the sub prime kraang might come back and that there was no human Irma. I saw the quote somewhere but I'll message you the link.

I can't say I'm devastated or anything - I liked Irma well enough and I do think she served a purpose, but the reveal was a shocker and I really appreciate how they pulled that off. I'd be happy if they brought a "real Irma" into the show, but if they choose not to I can respect that too.

I do think it's important to add more fully-developed female characters, though. Karai is one of the better characters on the show, but I'm concerned that her mutation will sideline her a bit for the time being. And I like April, and she has potential, but the focus on the Casey-Donnie triangle really sells her short as a character and it seems to have put the brakes on her own development.

I've said it before, but I think Angel would be a strong addition to the cast right about now.

(And hey, excellent gif choice!)

Why thank you! But anyway, I know what it feels like to be disappointed. I think it would be better to write another female character that has more thought to her like Angel or my idea for Mona Lisa to be a grad student that's studying mutants for her thesis.

[MaximeLoonatic]

One of the writers, Brandon Autumn, said that the sub prime kraang might come back and that there was no human Irma. I saw the quote somewhere but I'll message you the link.



Why thank you! But anyway, I know what it feels like to be disappointed. I think it would be better to write another female character that has more thought to her like Angel or my idea for Mona Lisa to be a grad student that's studying mutants for her thesis.

Well, if may I say something, I still have hope that Irma remains human.
The fake one was too much human and with so much personality to being a Kraangdroid all along. And the desing of Irma was so well done, AND since the 80s show she was always portrayed as an ally. The crew grew up watching the first show so I don't thing they would forget about Irma.

I honestly belive that Ciro might think about it, because I twiter him about her and he favorite it. It's true! I've found his twiter

[Donnieangelo]

I really want a plush ICK.
I gotta say, BUILD A BEAR IS AWESOME! And I just bought Leo on Friday (I COMPLETED THE SET!).

Since he will now be my last (and my 29th bear), I'm not supposed to buy anymore bears.
It was fun while it lasted. *hugs all my bears; especially Bearemy (he was my first bear)* I guess that means I could only buy the clothes now.

[Konchadunga]

Well, if may I say something, I still have hope that Irma remains human.
The fake one was too much human and with so much personality to being a Kraangdroid all along. And the desing of Irma was so well done, AND since the 80s show she was always portrayed as an ally. The crew grew up watching the first show so I don't thing they would forget about Irma.

I honestly belive that Ciro might think about it, because I twiter him about her and he favorite it. It's true! I've found his twiter

Proof? I would very much like to know what Nieli's Twiiter is. Also, this Brandon Auman message.

[Luckyday]

Proof? I would very much like to know what Nieli's Twiiter is. Also, this Brandon Auman message.

Look at the side comments for Brandon Auman.
http://instagram.com/p/tOEeX4IB3v/

[Warhorse]

Look at the side comments for Brandon Auman.
http://instagram.com/p/tOEeX4IB3v/

Hmmm, also alot of "we love Irma, bring her back!" And I saw one "Please make April and Donnie a couple!":P

Fan reaction like that is the reason the Apritello thing is not going no where!

[matteso586]

Look at the side comments for Brandon Auman.
http://instagram.com/p/tOEeX4IB3v/

This Brandon Auman is probably bluffing. I also think I found his twitter account. https://twitter.com/skyshocktrooper

[Warhorse]

This Brandon Auman is probably bluffing. I also think I found his twitter account. https://twitter.com/skyshocktrooper

I saw on Facebook that this guy got promoted as exectutive producer and head of the writing team for TMNT. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing.

[Luckyday]

I saw on Facebook that this guy got promoted as exectutive producer and head of the writing team for TMNT. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing.

It's not....

Almost all of the episodes that he did are ones that I don't like.

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o503/KimmieRocks/drink.gif

[MrTMNT2012]

It's not....

Almost all of the episodes that he did are ones that I don't like.

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o503/KimmieRocks/drink.gif

He's usually such a mediocre writer. But there are times where you see potential in his work...

Can't believe this show used to have Avatar writers on Season 1... :o

[Luckyday]

He's usually such a mediocre writer. But there are times where you see potential in his work...

Can't believe this show used to have Avatar writers on Season 1... :o

So he's pretty much a Steven Moffat in terms of story telling? Great concepts but clumsy at executions.

[MrTMNT2012]

So he's pretty much a Steven Moffat in terms of story telling? Great concepts but clumsy at executions.

Exactly. Except Brandon sometimes gets lazy and writes barebones storytelling...

[BabyTurtles]

It's not....

Almost all of the episodes that he did are ones that I don't like.

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o503/KimmieRocks/drink.gif

agreed.....:cry:

[Luckyday]

agreed.....:cry:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/218/0/a/let__s_drink____g_i_f_by_mrsvsnape-d5a0ojw.gif

There are going to be some rough seasons ahead.

[Warhorse]

LMFAO! This thread got hilarious within the last few posts! This sh!t here is more funnier than all of the episodes of the past second season combined! Comedy gold, got a love it!

[RedOnYellow]

Eh, I disagree. He's had his ups and downs this season, but I think all the writers working on the show for S2 have. I feel that, while Season 1 was consistently good overall, season 2 has some lows and some darn good highs.

Hopefully that's just them dealing with the bumps and bruises of taking over a mid-way project.

[Warhorse]

Eh, I disagree. He's had his ups and downs this season, but I think all the writers working on the show for S2 have. I feel that, while Season 1 was consistently good overall, season 2 has some lows and some darn good highs.

Hopefully that's just them dealing with the bumps and bruises of taking over a mid-way project.

Yeah, but Pizzaface is about as low as one can go. I mean low. I think I have seen porn with more substance in it.

[Luckyday]

Yeah, but Pizzaface is about as low as one can go. I mean low. I think I have seen porn with more substance in it.

To be fair, Brandon had nothing to do with that.

[RedOnYellow]

Yeah, but Pizzaface is about as low as one can go. I mean low. I think I have seen porn with more substance in it.

To me the hate for that episode is greatly exaggerated. It's by far the goofiest episode in the series, and it no doubt clashed with the darker plotline that surrounded it, but I thought it had some genuinely funny moments.

I would consider it one of the 'lows' of the season, but the hate on it I've seen around here is almost drama-mongering.

[Luckyday]

To me the hate for that episode is greatly exaggerated. It's by far the goofiest episode in the series, and it no doubt clashed with the darker plotline that surrounded it, but I thought it had some genuinely funny moments.

I would consider it one of the 'lows' of the season, but the hate on it I've seen around here is almost drama-mongering.

Now that I think about it. That episode was similar to The Teen Titan's episode of when Beast Boy stop a evil tofu from ruling the world by eating it. Both of these episodes felt like it was written by a ten year old.

[Warhorse]

To me the hate for that episode is greatly exaggerated. It's by far the goofiest episode in the series, and it no doubt clashed with the darker plotline that surrounded it, but I thought it had some genuinely funny moments.

I would consider it one of the 'lows' of the season, but the hate on it I've seen around here is almost drama-mongering.

I'm disgusted by the thought that Mikey could eat a rat! That's why it's one of the worst episodes, if not the worst, I have ever seen, in the entire TMNT history. ALL OF IT. From the 80's, 2k3 and 2012.

[MrTMNT2012]

Yeah, but Pizzaface is about as low as one can go. I mean low. I think I have seen porn with more substance in it.

It's funny cause that's the Nickelodeon Exec's favourite episode "By Far"!

Clearly Nick is run by 5 year olds...

Maybe that's why they hate Korra so much!

[Warhorse]

It's funny cause that's the Nickelodeon Exec's favourite episode "By Far"!

Clearly Nick is run by 5 year olds...

Maybe that's why they hate Korra so much!

Stuff like this makes me wonder how in the hell good episodes like Wrath Of Tiger Claw, Vengence is Mine, Slash and Destroy and Target April O Neil were actually green lit to be made.

[Luckyday]

It's funny cause that's the Nickelodeon Exec's favourite episode "By Far"!

Clearly Nick is run by 5 year olds...

Maybe that's why they hate Korra so much!

Maybe it would be bad to keep suggesting to use the A:TLA crew for Mikey's feudal japan story. :(

[RedOnYellow]

Never trust an exec. Them saying it's their 'favorite episode by far' is just their way of saying 'yeah, we know it wasn't received too hotly, so I gotta cover for it'.

It's a company defending its product.

[Bry]

To me the hate for that episode is greatly exaggerated. It's by far the goofiest episode in the series, and it no doubt clashed with the darker plotline that surrounded it, but I thought it had some genuinely funny moments.

I would consider it one of the 'lows' of the season, but the hate on it I've seen around here is almost drama-mongering.

The plus side is, at least for the time being, you can just say it was all a dream if you want to!

But... I actually kinda liked it? I probably prefer that it doesn't "count", but there was some funny weirdness in there that I dug. As a one-off that doesn't impact anything else, it was a lot of fun. As long as they keep it that way and don't bring Pizza Face back.

We've seen that Antonio's is still in business as normal since then, right?

[Konchadunga]

Which episodes did Auman write?

[BubblyShell22]

I can't remember all of them, but he did write "Within The Woods" and I loved that episode.

[Warhorse]

I can't remember all of them, but he did write "Within The Woods" and I loved that episode.

Mutation Situation, Kraang Conspiracy, The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman, cowrote the Manhattan Project two parter. I can't remember too much. It seems the episodes start to get promising, but then end up on the (WTF did I just watch) front.

[Luckyday]

Mutation Situation, Kraang Conspiracy, The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman, cowrote the Manhattan Project two parter. I can't remember too much. It seems the episodes start to get promising, but then end up on the (WTF did I just watch) front.

The Mutation Situation didn't really have much going on other then Kirby getting Mutated and April disowning the turtles. Mutation of Baxter Stockman made me mad for personal one side reasons. Kraang Conspiracy was pretty much what WarHorse have said.

The only ones that I like was The Invasion and Into the Woods but that about it. He's a very hit or miss type of guy.

I think the problem with some of his episodes is that they can be a little rush and not well thought out. You have idiot ball moments here and there.

[BabyTurtles]

Mutation Situation, Kraang Conspiracy, The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman, cowrote the Manhattan Project two parter. I can't remember too much. It seems the episodes start to get promising, but then end up on the (WTF did I just watch) front.

ugh...

-Didn't like mutation situation because they made Mikey an idiot
-Didn't like Kraang conspiracy because they made April a stubborn jerk that faced no consequences
-Didn't like lonely mutation of baxter stockmen for tons of reasons (it only took a drop to cure Kirby!? What about Tim!? Can we have less of April's butt plz?)
-I'm one of the few people that didn't like the Manhattan project because of the group being conveniently split up so love triangle plot can happen
-The first part of the Invasion made me upset.

-And Into the Woods had so much wasted potential it hurts....also love subplot.


I feel like such a stick in the mud

[RedOnYellow]

ugh...

-Didn't like mutation situation because they made Mikey an idiot
-Didn't like Kraang conspiracy because they made April a stubborn jerk that faced no consequences
-Didn't like lonely mutation of baxter stockmen for tons of reasons (it only took a drop to cure Kirby!? What about Tim!? Can we have less of April's butt plz?)
-I'm one of the few people that didn't like the Manhattan project because of the group being conveniently split up so love triangle plot can happen
-The first part of the Invasion made me upset.

-And Into the Woods had so much wasted potential it hurts....also love subplot.


I feel like such a stick in the mud

If you don't like his writing, you don't like his writing. For me, he's wrote some of the best episodes (The Invasion Part 1, Baxter's mutation, Within the Woods) and some of the worst (Mutation Situation).

A lot of people in here are Doom and Gloom about him becoming the head writer and saying that the show's future quality is in jeapordy. I think those people are just churning up something to whine about.

[Warhorse]

ugh...

-Didn't like mutation situation because they made Mikey an idiot
-Didn't like Kraang conspiracy because they made April a stubborn jerk that faced no consequences
-Didn't like lonely mutation of baxter stockmen for tons of reasons (it only took a drop to cure Kirby!? What about Tim!? Can we have less of April's butt plz?)
-I'm one of the few people that didn't like the Manhattan project because of the group being conveniently split up so love triangle plot can happen
-The first part of the Invasion made me upset.

-And Into the Woods had so much wasted potential it hurts....also love subplot.


I feel like such a stick in the mud

I don't remember too much of the Baxter Stockman and Mutation Situation, they are kind of forgettable for me. The Kraang Conspiracy started out good, and I actually loved the moment when the first meet Kurtzman, and when he sees April and starts to go for her, it was Leo, not Donnie, that got in between them in a protective stance for April. Then, I remember seeing all of these April clones and April Derps, and that is when I was like, W-T-F is going on? The beginning of the episode is your mind off drugs The ending of the episode is the result of your mind on drugs. The Manhattan Project, I agree with you about the gang split up and the love triangle, and this is when I think the downslide for Raphael started. I would have rather had Casey Jones teamed up with Raph, or better yet, Raph teamed up with Casey, April and Donnie. Only thing I really liked about the episode was Tigerclaw.

If you don't like his writing, you don't like his writing. For me, he's wrote some of the best episodes (The Invasion Part 1, Baxter's mutation, Within the Woods) and some of the worst (Mutation Situation).

A lot of people in here are Doom and Gloom about him becoming the head writer and saying that the show's future quality is in jeapordy. I think those people are just churning up something to whine about.
Hmmmm, you write like you have a personal stake in all of this. Why so defensive of the guy? Hmmmm? I'm sensing a strong Samxsteal or Puddingop vibe within you!:shifty:

[BabyTurtles]

I would have rather had Casey Jones teamed up with Raph, or better yet, Raph teamed up with Casey, April and Donnie. Only thing I really liked about the episode was Tigerclaw.


I just want more Raph and Casey actually being friends...so far all they do together is fight things...but other than that they don't seem like best friends or anything....

Donnie and Casey might complain alot but even they seem to talk more and hang. I think the writers are putting WAY to much emphasis on their love rivalry.

Kinda makes me wish Casey was oblivious to Donnie's crush.

also TigerClaw is cool...kinda wish he was more of a threat though...he seemed to be de-powered pretty fast...

[Luckyday]

I suppose if you really digging deep for a silver lining, it's that with Brandon as Head Writer, he can concentrate on the concepts and hopeful leave the execution to the rest of the writing staff.

Maybe he has a clear outline plot? Probably something to do with the kraang.

[RedOnYellow]

Hmmmm, you write like you have a personal stake in all of this. Why so defensive of the guy? Hmmmm? I'm sensing a strong Samxsteal or Puddingop vibe within you!:shifty:

I don't know who either of those are. I'm just calling it as I see it.

[Warhorse]

I just want more Raph and Casey actually being friends...so far all they do together is fight things...but other than that they don't seem like best friends or anything....

Donnie and Casey might complain alot but even they seem to talk more and hang. I think the writers are putting WAY to much emphasis on their love rivalry.

Kinda makes me wish Casey was oblivious to Donnie's crush.

also TigerClaw is cool...kinda wish he was more of a threat though...he seemed to be de-powered pretty fast...

It gets even more messed up when I think about it. Raph and Casey were hanging out together in The Invasion episode, and what does Casey want to talk about? April. Before that, Raph and Casey were in that Newtralizer episode, and in this, Casey was messing up so bad, Raph didn't want him to be with them when they were on missions.

I don't know who either of those are. I'm just calling it as I see it.

Eh, that hidden comment was more for people who know me than for you.

[BabyTurtles]

It gets even more messed up when I think about it. Raph and Casey were hanging out together in The Invasion episode, and what does Casey want to talk about? April. Before that, Raph and Casey were in that Newtralizer episode, and in this, Casey was messing up so bad, Raph didn't want him to be with them when they were on missions.

yea...kinda missing Raph and Casey's bond in 2003.

[Konchadunga]

yea...kinda missing Raph and Casey's bond in 2003.

Along with almost every hallmark of the character. As much as people complain about April being objectified--and they're not wrong-at least she's different things to different characters. Casey, though, essentially serves no purpose other than to complicate Donatello's obsessive puppy-love. What a poignant occurrence that he wasn't even allowed to stay the heir of the farmhouse, because God forbid we imply this dude has any ancestors!

[Warhorse]

Along with almost every hallmark of the character. As much as people complain about April being objectified--and they're not wrong-at least she's different things to different characters. Casey, though, essentially serves no purpose other than to complicate Donatello's obsessive puppy-love. What a poignant occurrence that he wasn't even allowed to stay the heir of the farmhouse, because God forbid we imply this dude has any ancestors!

Yeah, I seen that, but I think they made it April's place because of all of the stuff that's going to be coming out because of her mom. I'm just surprised to not see everyone having a radio nearby like in Harry Potter so they can have an idea what is going on with the rest of the world. I am going to assume though, maybe we might see a stray paper laying around on a table.

[Refractive Reflections]

What exactly did people like about Irma's character in this version? Was she even in the show enough for some of you to form this kind of attachment where you want to go to NYCC just to complain to Ciro? I don't get it.

^ This. We didn't even see her as much as Casey or April, so I'm not that attached to the character.

Well, I liked her better than April because she seemed to have more of a personality. April is just there right now. Either she's complaining or explaining stuff, but, we still don't know anything about her. Not to mention, Irma's get up was so wild and interesting, one could only guess what her character would develop into if she was explored more.

I think the reason why people like Irma, was that she represented the non-TMNT life of April, which some have pointed out earlier and showed at least one girl-to-girl friendship bond in the series (which was shown in the OT series). Nick Irma wasn't much of an established character, but the big reveal undermined the possibility of expanding the character. (Then again the show hasn't really bother with character depth for a prolonged amount of time this season [excluding Karai], so... maybe the disappointment is unjustified.)

For me, what's the most frustrating with the big reveal is that in the beginning and middle of Season 2 (and even throughout Season 1 upon hindsight), April was touted as being the most crucial part of the Kraangs' plan and how they wanted to constantly kidnap her, but upon hindsight after watching the Season 2 finale, Krang Sub-Prime could have easily kidnapped April at around the time of "A Chinatown Ghost Story" episode when it was strongly hinted Irma was something other than human. (Even if we go with the notion that "human Irma" was somehow swapped before that episode.) It makes the reveal of Krang Sub-Prime wanting to know the Turtles' lair in first place (rather than the Kraang initially focusing on April, which was more important for one and a half seasons), seem more or less shoehorned, just to introduce the whole Southampton arc for Season 3. Ugh... again another example of plotline amnesia. It's why I can't emotionally invest in this series or care about most suspense scenes anymore, because 6-10 episodes later, more often the plotline will be ignored or contradict itself in a later development upon hindsight.

...I mean if the show doesn't care enough to address these details that it creates with its own storywriting, why should I?

What did Irma say or do that made her "cooler than April"?
Maybe because Irma wasn't as "Mary Sue-ish" as April was. :P

[MaximeLoonatic]

I think the reason why people like Irma, was that she represented the non-TMNT life of April, which some have pointed out earlier and showed at least one girl-to-girl friendship bond in the series (which was shown in the OT series). Nick Irma wasn't much of an established character, but the big reveal undermined the possibility of expanding the character. (Then again the show hasn't really bother with character depth for a prolonged amount of time this season [excluding Karai], so... maybe the disappointment is unjustified.)

For me, what's the most frustrating with the big reveal is that in the beginning and middle of Season 2 (and even throughout Season 1 upon hindsight), April was touted as being the most crucial part of the Kraangs' plan and how they wanted to constantly kidnap her, but upon hindsight after watching the Season 2 finale, Krang Sub-Prime could have easily kidnapped April at around the time of "A Chinatown Ghost Story" episode when it was strongly hinted Irma was something other than human. (Even if we go with the notion that "human Irma" was somehow swapped before that episode.) It makes the reveal of Krang Sub-Prime wanting to know the Turtles' lair in first place (rather than the Kraang initially focusing on April, which was more important for one and a half seasons), seem more or less shoehorned, just to introduce the whole Southampton arc for Season 3. Ugh... again another example of plotline amnesia. It's why I can't emotionally invest in this series or care about most suspense scenes anymore, because 6-10 episodes later, more often the plotline will be ignored or contradict itself in a later development upon hindsight.

...I mean if the show doesn't care enough to address these details that it creates with its own storywriting, why should I?


Maybe because Irma wasn't as "Mary Sue-ish" as April was. :P

AND as what I remember for season 1 April said that she had friends on school and Irma did called her a few episodes before the Kraang discovers where she studies. Did really subprime was in that time Irma? I don't think so!

Anyway there's was NEVER a single hint that Irma was a robot all along, they didn't give any single! They even gave hints that Karai it's Miwa, right?

Besides, don't you think that April might need something from her past live before the Kraang or the mutants? She has lost her father, and now she saw her best friend being a robot. Can't she have someone, besides Casey, who doesn't get screw up?!

[drgon78]

The only hints they gave about Irma was the cold didn't bother her and that Chinese ghost saw a power in her he didn't understand.

[BubblyShell22]

Exactly, and I still say they swapped her out for the real Irma. The reason that they didn't kidnap April right away this time was because they perfected the mutagen on their own and didn't need her anymore. Besides, I think they really wanted to do a full-scale invasion, and infiltrating the Turtles' Lair and having the Kraang come through it was pretty effective.

[matteso586]

The only hints they gave about Irma was the cold didn't bother her and that Chinese ghost saw a power in her he didn't understand.

Ho Chan never said Irma isn't human, did he? Besides, he knocked Irma out when he did that "look directly at the eye thing" on her.

And may I suggest that you save those Irma questions for the NYCC 2014 Turtle panel?

[ssjup81]

The only hints they gave about Irma was the cold didn't bother her and that Chinese ghost saw a power in her he didn't understand.And that she started asking more about April's "secret friends".

[drgon78]

Asking about "secret friends" is not a sign you are not human:lol:.

[ssjup81]

Asking about "secret friends" is not a sign you are not human:lol:.No, she suddenly started asking more about them. I still feel she was replaced. Still doesn't make sense for her to have been one the entire time.

[Refractive Reflections]

Exactly, and I still say they swapped her out for the real Irma. The reason that they didn't kidnap April right away this time was because they perfected the mutagen on their own and didn't need her anymore. Besides, I think they really wanted to do a full-scale invasion, and infiltrating the Turtles' Lair and having the Kraang come through it was pretty effective.

But the Kraang never gave a clear concrete reason as to why Nick April was needed so much (remember how important she was in "The Kraang Conspiracy" with the April clones and April derp?) or even if her importance was related to perfecting the mutagen. I could allow the storywriting having the invasion temporarily take more importance because of the timing, but the fact that Krang Sub-Prime was with April for a certain amount of time alone with her upon hindsight and didn't do anything to kidnap her (as easy as it was), deflates the suspense and importance the Kraang had about her (and the show has been building upon for nearly two seasons) without a valid reason. That's the frustration. The show introduces a new twist but doesn't address the concerns and suspense that it previously created within its own storywriting.

Edit: In this situation, this show went on and on about how important April is to the Kraang, creating the kidnapping subplot with Kirby O'Neil, how April had to reside in the sewers (and was able to miraculously go back to school) because the Kraang were searching for her, creating inferior April clones, having Metalhead protect April and fight off against Karai ("Target: April O' Neil"), and now we realize that one of her best friends that was with her was a Kraang, the Kraang didn't take that opportunity at all? Yeeaaah.... that clashes with its own suspense and storywriting.

[BabyTurtles]

But the Kraang never gave a clear concrete reason as to why Nick April was needed so much (remember how important she was in "The Kraang Conspiracy" with the April clones and April derp?) or even if her importance was related to perfecting the mutagen. I could allow the storywriting having the invasion temporarily take more importance because of the timing, but the fact that Krang Sub-Prime was with April for a certain amount of time alone with her upon hindsight and didn't do anything to kidnap her (as easy as it was), deflates the suspense and importance the Kraang had about her (and the show has been building upon for nearly two seasons) without a valid reason. That's the frustration. The show introduces a new twist but doesn't address the concerns and suspense that it previously created within its own storywriting.

yea...also they didn't even really need April cause they perfected the mutagen without her, so why did Kraang sub Prime even need to stalk her?

to help find the turtles?
why were the turtle's lair the key to start the invasion anyway?

[Refractive Reflections]

yea...also they didn't even really need April cause they perfected the mutagen without her, so why did Kraang sub Prime even need to stalk her?

Again, we don't even really know if April is (or was) important in relation to perfecting the mutagen. From my speculation, she seemed to be more important in terms of discovering and exploiting her mental powers genetically and exploring her resistance to Kraang water and/or mutagen since it could lead up to her having a powerful advantage against them. As for the whole Kraang Sub-Prime reveal situation, it seemed forced or shoehorned just to introduce the Southampton arc.

to help find the turtles?
why were the turtle's lair the key to start the invasion anyway?
I'm guessing the Turtles' lair was key because the Kraang could easily flush out the Turtles and destroy their "base of operations", similarly to the Turtles defeating the Nick Technodrome in stopping the Kraang, to gain a better foothold in taking over New York City.

[BabyTurtles]

Again, we don't even really know if April is (or was) important in relation to perfecting the mutagen. From my speculation, she seemed to be more important in terms of discovering and exploiting her mental powers genetically and exploring her resistance to Kraang water and/or mutagen since it could lead up to her having a powerful advantage against them. As for the whole Kraang Sub-Prime reveal situation, it seemed forced or shoehorned just to introduce the Southampton arc.

no...it said in kraang conspiracy that they needed her to perfect the mutagen. :ohwell:

I'm guessing the Turtles' lair was key because the Kraang could easily flush out the Turtles and destroy their "base of operations", similarly to the Turtles defeating the Nick Technodrome in stopping the Kraang, to gain a better foothold in taking over New York City.

ehh..I guess....but the invasion up top was pretty crazy....I think they could have started and get the the turtles later, I mean the whole city is getting mutated they probably would have found them faster if they just started and had their huge mutant army find them. (probably would have given Don less time to prepare his huge mecha)

I just don't feel like finding the turtles' lair should have stopped them from continuing their plans. (either way it was a surprise attack)

[Refractive Reflections]

no...it said in kraang conspiracy that they needed her to perfect the mutagen. :ohwell:

I guess I'll have to rewatch it . :ohwell: Hmm... I know the Kraang wanted to terraform the Earth using her DNA, but I was thinking more in terms of using it as a form of mind control over the mutants they created (so it would be easier to control their mutants), rather than in terms of stability of the mutating process. ...Well that kind of undermines April's importance even more than doesn't it? :ohwell: But who knows now...

With April having been such an easy picking though for Krang Sub-Prime though, and uncertainty if Irma was at any time an actual human at all or when there was the actual "switch", it still kind of begs the question as to why Krang Sub-Prime could have just kidnapped her nevertheless before the Kraang perfected the mutagen ("Into Dimension X!").

ehh..I guess....but the invasion up top was pretty crazy....I think they could have started and get the the turtles later, I mean the whole city is getting mutated they probably would have found them faster if they just started and had their huge mutant army find them. (probably would have given Don less time to prepare his huge mecha)

I just don't feel like finding the turtles' lair should have stopped them from continuing their plans. (either way it was a surprise attack)

That could have worked too, but I was just giving a shot as to why. :ohwell:

[Konchadunga]

Even if the Kraang managed to perfect the mutagen to the point that they no longer need April as a test subject, you'd think they'd want to take April out just because she knows too much. Unlike the Turtles, who risk a lot by doing so, April could go to the cops and blow the whistle on the Kraang--and because they already invaded, there wouldn't be the usual problem of skepticism. Granted, the Kraang are rather incompetent villains, but if they're going to call attention to the past with a rare serious portrayal, suspension of disbelief breaks.

[plastroncafe]

For those going, the official TMNT NYCC Information Schedule can be found here:

http://tmntmaster.tumblr.com/post/99337222093/hey-turtle-fans-are-you-heading-to-new-york-this

Hey Turtle fans, are you heading to New York this week for NYCC? There’s a bunch of TMNT stuff going on in and around the city for you to check out!

THURSDAY - OCTOBER 9TH

12pm - 4pm / 4:30pm - 7pm: ”Your Own Nickelodeon Recording Session.” Be the voice of Mikey in a scene with the Kraang, or the voice of Donnie in a scene with April! Stop by the Nickelodeon NYCC booth to voiceover classic and current Nick cartoons.

4pm - 6:30pm: Head over to Toys”R”Us in Times Square for a chance to get autographs from Ciro Nieli (exec producer), Brandon Auman (exec producer), Rob Paulsen (Donnie), and Greg Cipes (Mikey)

FRIDAY - OCTOBER 10TH

10am - 1pm / 1:30pm - 4pm / 4:30pm - 7pm: ”Your Own Nickelodeon Recording Session.” Be the voice of Mikey in a scene with the Kraang, or the voice of Donnie in a scene with April! Stop by the Nickelodeon NYCC booth to voiceover classic and current Nick cartoons.

12pm - 3:30pm: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are partying it up at the Nickelodeon booth! Head over to grab a photo with these costume characters.

2pm - 3pm: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles panel in Empire Stage 1-E. Exec producers Ciro Nieli and Brandon Auman will be joined by voice stars Rob Paulsen (Donnie), Seth Green (Leo), Greg Cipes (Mikey), and Eric Bauza (Tiger Claw) for exclusive sneak peeks at Season 3 of the television series.

SATURDAY - OCTOBER 11TH

10am - 1pm / 1:30pm - 4pm / 4:30pm - 7pm: ”Your Own Nickelodeon Recording Session.” Be the voice of Mikey in a scene with the Kraang, or the voice of Donnie in a scene with April! Stop by the Nickelodeon NYCC booth to voiceover classic and current Nick cartoons.

12pm - 3:30pm: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are partying it up at the Nickelodeon booth! Head over to grab a photo with these costume characters.

12pm - 7pm: Take a trip to Brooklyn and visit the TMNT “Turtles in Time” art exhibit at Bottleneck Gallery. For more info, check out their Facebook page.

SUNDAY - OCTOBER 12TH

10am - 1pm / 1:30pm - 5pm: ”Your Own Nickelodeon Recording Session.” Be the voice of Mikey in a scene with the Kraang, or the voice of Donnie in a scene with April! Stop by the Nickelodeon NYCC booth to voiceover classic and current Nick cartoons.

12pm - 7pm: Take a trip to Brooklyn and visit the TMNT “Turtles in Time” art exhibit at Bottleneck Gallery. For more info, check out their Facebook page.

I did the VO thing in San Diego this past summer and it was a WHOLE lot of fun.
Won't be making it to Times Square for the signing, there's Legend of Korra panel I want to see more.

But I will most likely be hitting up the "Turtle in Time" exhibit at some point. Probably Saturday?
Who knows?!

[snake]

The voice recording session sounds fun.

[Refractive Reflections]

So I watched the particular scene with Kurtzman again (in "The Kraang Conspiracy") and he said her human DNA was needed to perfect the mutagen, but I guess since the Kraang already did that without her she's no longer needed. Yet with mental telepathy and psychokinesis occurring in the episode, I see where I assumed that aspect was the factor the Kraang wanted to integrate into perfecting the mutagen. On top of the development of April's resistance to the mutagen and Kraang water in other episodes. It was a mistake for me to assume that, but I thought the story would have led toward that direction since these mental powers and resistance to Kraang liquids (mutagen and water) are the thing that made April so unique from the other humans, since the Kraang have genetically tinkered around with humans in the past. Oh well...

Either way (whether the DNA of April's mental powers was a part of the perfecting or not), it still feels disappointing (since "Into Dimension X!" and "The Invasion" undermined her importance to the Kraang dramatically, which was built on for nearly two seasons, and in the story for thousands and thousands of years) and still creates a plot hole in terms of "Why couldn't Krang Sub-Prime...?" when the details over Irma's existence (whether there was ever a human version of her or not) is still hazy.

Even if the Kraang managed to perfect the mutagen to the point that they no longer need April as a test subject, you'd think they'd want to take April out just because she knows too much. Unlike the Turtles, who risk a lot by doing so, April could go to the cops and blow the whistle on the Kraang--and because they already invaded, there wouldn't be the usual problem of skepticism. Granted, the Kraang are rather incompetent villains, but if they're going to call attention to the past with a rare serious portrayal, suspension of disbelief breaks.

Yeah... that too. :ohwell:

[BubblyShell22]

Wow. That recording session thing sounds awesome. Wish I could do that.

RR, maybe they didn't want KSP kidnapping April so quickly because they figured since he's impersonating one of her friends, it would be weird for the two of them to go missing so quickly without a trace. They figured it would be better to kidnap Irma (if there really IS an Irma which I still believe there is), have KSP impersonate her, and bide their time until the invasion with the infiltration of the Turtles' Lair. I get what you mean by the inconsistency of April being important, but they probably figured since they perfected the mutagen on their own, they probably didn't need her anymore and would probably wipe her out later anyway. That's the way I look at it.

[matteso586]

I just thought of something. Do you think that Irma twist is one of the reasons why April is being a little tense in Within The Woods?

[miru]

I just thought of something. Do you think that Irma twist is one of the reasons why April is being a little tense in Within The Woods?

Probably. Maybe she can sense the feelings of the upset fans.

[RedOnYellow]

Hope we get a good run down of the panel when it's over.

[Konchadunga]

Probably. Maybe she can sense the feelings of the upset fans.

Or maybe the writers finally realized it's stupid to have one episode end with her traumatized and the next show her being just fine.

[ssjup81]

Or maybe the writers finally realized it's stupid to have one episode end with her traumatized and the next show her being just fine.^ You speak wise words young grasshopper.

[RedOnYellow]

You people DO know it had been three months right?

[Konchadunga]

Since what, they went to the farm? Did I miss something?

[snake]

Since what, they went to the farm? Did I miss something?

Yes. April says it's been 3 months since NYC.

[RedOnYellow]

Since what, they went to the farm? Did I miss something?

Honestly some of you do more complaining than you do watching the show.

[BabyTurtles]

Honestly some of you do more complaining than you do watching the show.

Well some of us see the problems.

No one just blindly follows something, if something's wrong it's going to be criticized, but we do it because we care and want the show to get better...otherwise we wouldn't be here.

[ssjup81]

You people DO know it had been three months right?Yeah, but I thought konchadunga meant that it's good to show that she was still distressed...didn't realize he didn't catch that it had been 3 months since they fled NYC.

[RedOnYellow]

No one just blindly follows something.

Neither do I, just pointing out the fact that the two posters before were posting completely baseless criticisms and patting each other on the back for it.

[BabyTurtles]

Neither do I, just pointing out the fact that the two posters before were posting completely baseless criticisms and patting each other on the back for it.

really who? (maybe I should just go back and read the past comments)

[Konchadunga]

So, Leonardo was unconscious for three months? That's pushing it; I must say.

[ssjup81]

So, Leonardo was unconscious for three months? That's pushing it; I must say.Not really. Turtles can and do hibernate.

[ssjup81]

Wow. That recording session thing sounds awesome. Wish I could do that.

RR, maybe they didn't want KSP kidnapping April so quickly because they figured since he's impersonating one of her friends, it would be weird for the two of them to go missing so quickly without a trace. They figured it would be better to kidnap Irma (if there really IS an Irma which I still believe there is), have KSP impersonate her, and bide their time until the invasion with the infiltration of the Turtles' Lair. I get what you mean by the inconsistency of April being important, but they probably figured since they perfected the mutagen on their own, they probably didn't need her anymore and would probably wipe her out later anyway. That's the way I look at it.I figured they wanted the turtles because they're working with Shredder..

[BubblyShell22]

So, Leonardo was unconscious for three months? That's pushing it; I must say.

No, it really isn't. People can be in comas for months and even years. My sis was in one that started in February and ended on Easter Sunday which fell in March. She would have died too if they didn't give her steroids, which worked, but there was a chance it wasn't going to work. Luckily it did. So Leo being out for that long doesn't surprise me at all in the slightest or make me think it's too much.

As for April, I don't think it's just Irma that's making her tense in the premiere. Her dad's mutated again, they had to flee New York, Splinter's missing, and at the start of the episode, there's the possibility that Leo may not wake up. Wouldn't you be tense too if you were going through all of that? I know I would be.

[matteso586]

No, it really isn't. People can be in comas for months and even years. My sis was in one that started in February and ended on Easter Sunday which fell in March. She would have died too if they didn't give her steroids, which worked, but there was a chance it wasn't going to work. Luckily it did. So Leo being out for that long doesn't surprise me at all in the slightest or make me think it's too much.

As for April, I don't think it's just Irma that's making her tense in the premiere. Her dad's mutated again, they had to flee New York, Splinter's missing, and at the start of the episode, there's the possibility that Leo may not wake up. Wouldn't you be tense too if you were going through all of that? I know I would be.

And I said "one of the reasons". Besides, April was interrupted when she sensed The Creep.

[BubblyShell22]

Okay, I didn't catch that in your post. My apologies.

[Warhorse]

No, it really isn't. People can be in comas for months and even years. My sis was in one that started in February and ended on Easter Sunday which fell in March. She would have died too if they didn't give her steroids, which worked, but there was a chance it wasn't going to work. Luckily it did. So Leo being out for that long doesn't surprise me at all in the slightest or make me think it's too much.
.

Yep, longest coma that someone woke up from I believe was like 19 years.

[IndigoErth]

Yep, longest coma that someone woke up from I believe was like 19 years.
:ohwell: That would suck. I'm sure it's great to finally wake up, but to find yourself almost 20 years older and technology, society, etc as probably changed so much... o.O

Three months is understandable if the poor kid was hurt so badly and took that long to come around.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, his body would take a long time to heal itself, and he's still got a lot of healing ahead of him.

[PangolinFeets]

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/good-smile-company-creates-collectible-sculptures-of-nickelodeons-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/
Ooooo. This will be getting shown off.

[Roseangelo]

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/good-smile-company-creates-collectible-sculptures-of-nickelodeons-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/
Ooooo. This will be getting shown off.

That is not at all appealing to me...

[Zatoichi]

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/good-smile-company-creates-collectible-sculptures-of-nickelodeons-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/
Ooooo. This will be getting shown off.

Looks kinda cool, sucks that it seems to only be the sculpts of the turtles, would LOVE to see a sculpt of Splinter and Tiger Claw from these guys,

[Zulithe]

Love that Good Smile is working on TMNT. They look good but not something I would buy. Also those super long bandanas are laughable. Works in art (i guess) but when I think about how impractical it would be I just can't get over it. Ruins it for me.

[brosuke_hanamura]

Can't wait for the panel, I wonder if they'll show any new character concept art, those are some of my favorite parts when they go to conventions.

[NinjaPug]

Can't wait for the panel, I wonder if they'll show any new character concept art, those are some of my favorite parts when they go to conventions.

I'm sure they will.

Fingers crossed for a look at the Triceratons.

[travelingcat]

I'm hoping for a Bishop reveal. Maybe, just maybe.

[brosuke_hanamura]

Triceratons and a good quality muckman for me

[BubblyShell22]

Well, today's the day. For everyone going to this, have fun and be sure to let us know what goes down.

[Zulithe]

really excited about all of today's forthcoming news and tidbits :)

Can't wait to watch the panel recordings!!!

[MaximeLoonatic]

In hope they talk about what would happen to Karai

Also, if they bring back Irma as human!

[Zulithe]

I think with Karai they will leave her mutated but she will gradually learn to control herself and be able to stay in human form better.

As for Irma, don't really care :P I think it is unlikely she will return personally.

[zantha]

I don't know if anyone has brought this up before (if so I didn't see it) so I thought I would. sorry if it has been mentioned . but for those of us that aren't going to be at new York comic con, you can watch the panels on live stream. I watched the korra one yesterday. here is a link

http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/Events/NYCCLive/?campaignid=61843233&iusercampaignid=84136557

it is on the empire stage so you will have to clink on that, as it default to the main stage.

again sorry if this has been brought up before. I just wanted to make sure that anyone that wanted to watch it could.

[IndigoErth]

Nice! Thanks for the link.


To those who are or will be there... have fun, enjoy the unending line to get in, and try not to get trampled. I wish you a moment of breathing room on occasion. :P

[tmntfanuk]

I don't know if anyone has brought this up before (if so I didn't see it) so I thought I would. sorry if it has been mentioned . but for those of us that aren't going to be at new York comic con, you can watch the panels on live stream. I watched the korra one yesterday. here is a link

http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/Events/NYCCLive/?campaignid=61843233&iusercampaignid=84136557

it is on the empire stage so you will have to clink on that, as it default to the main stage.

again sorry if this has been brought up before. I just wanted to make sure that anyone that wanted to watch it could.

Thanks for that! Its 7pm UK time, so I will check in then and see if its streaming.

[Konchadunga]

When is it by California time? I have trouble figuring out that website on my phone.

[evan2000]

When is it by California time? I have trouble figuring out that website on my phone.
It's starting in 40 minutes time, ie. 2pm in New York, ie. 11am in California.

[PangolinFeets]

I'm in the fifth roooow. :) Livetweeting! @pangolinfeets

[brosuke_hanamura]

I'm in the fifth roooow. :) Livetweeting! @pangolinfeets

Sweet dude, are you going too post straight to here too or just twitter?

[PangolinFeets]

Both, but Twitter is quicker.
Also, for those watching, the lady Shredder was my best friend up there. Lol

[evan2000]

Woo... just started! :tgrin:

[zantha]

just thought I would say that I am watching the panel now with the link and it works great. hope it is working for everyone else that wants to watch it.

[Vicky82]

just thought I would say that I am watching the panel now with the link and it works great. hope it is working for everyone else that wants to watch it.

Yeah me too and i'm having pizza for dinner :D

But I only can hear what what they are saying, it has the tmnt logo on the screen and can't see the panel.

[evan2000]

just thought I would say that I am watching the panel now with the link and it works great. hope it is working for everyone else that wants to watch it.

Too bad those of us watching online are not able to watch the Tiger Claw clip they just played :tsad:

[IndigoErth]

Darn, no clips for us...

Ah well. Good to see Seth is there, hope he continues to be 10x more involved outside the recording studio than Biggs ever was.


Edit: Irmengelo. HAHAHA

Missed what name/character the female sketch was... something about a crush for Mikey?

[evan2000]

And the rest of the clips they might show for the day... (I think they just recapped the clip of Irma's transformation into Kraang sub-prime)

[PangolinFeets]

Renet confirmed.

[evan2000]

Renet's appearing and looks like Mikey will have a crush on her!

[Vicky82]

OMG MIKEY FALLS IN LOVE with Renet the time travel girl :D

She's going to be in it.

[IndigoErth]

Ohhh that time girl that was in the 2003. Please make her less annoying... lol

[Vicky82]

LOL Rob talking in his OT Raph Voice who's talking to Donnie :lol:

[evan2000]

HAHAHA... Rob's doing his renditions of each turtle... including OT Raph talking to Nick's Donnie :tlol:

BTW he sounds terrible as Leo or Mikey :trazz:

[Bry]

Ohhh that time girl that was in the 2003. Please make her less annoying... lol

And the Mirage comics originally. Recently showing up in IDW too. YEAH RENET!

HAHAHA... Rob's doing his renditions of each turtle... including OT Raph talking to Nick's Donnie :tlol:

Please tell me that's gonna be posted on YouTube.

[tmntfanuk]

Doh! Wish we could see the clips too!

[JonesyKitty]

i turned on the video right as they flashed the concept art and couldn't even screen cap it Dx but im glad shes gonna be on the show, heres hoping we finally get a Renet figure!

[Vicky82]

OMG HUN going to be in it

Steve R Pufnstuf ‏@Galileo908 · 1m1 minute ago
Hun also confirmed! #TMNT #NYCC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzmwjO-IMAAERw5.jpg

[CyberCubed]

YES! HUN!

Now we just need Bishop.

[NinjaPug]

Renet!!!!! Oh hell yes!!!

Hun is based on Bruce Lee? Pretty cool.

Now let's see some Triceratons!!!!

[Vicky82]

Speed Demon, some car racing episode where Donnie gets posessed

[zantha]

i am enjoying it, I just wish I could see the clips. I don't really get it, on the korra panel yesterday, you could watch the episode. hopefully it will be up on youtube soon.

[CyberCubed]

Renet!!!!! Oh hell yes!!!

Hun is based on Bruce Lee? Pretty cool.

Now let's see some Triceratons!!!!

Wait, they made Hun Asian?

[evan2000]

We've seen this before:

http://i.imgur.com/PRaJ4BG.jpg

This is new:

http://i.imgur.com/ELlPTPk.jpg

Donnie gets possessed by something (not double-mutated, unfortunately)

[IndigoErth]

So that's what that car thing was. o.O Went to the kitchen during a clip, came back and saw the model for just a second, was like... wut? lol

[Vicky82]

Damn they are watching the Buried Secrets episode:ohwell:

[Luckyday]

YES! HUN!

Now we just need Bishop.

So they going with the celebrity angle that they should have use on Bradford but with Hun instead?

This could be really interesting.

[evan2000]

Bebop & Rocksteady 3D models:

http://i.imgur.com/BN6WUs2.jpg

[CyberCubed]

Bebop/Rocksteady look about the same as those promotional pics Playmates leaked.

[Vicky82]

Renae Jacobs does voice April's Mom in next weeks episode.

[CyberCubed]

Can someone tell me if Hun was turned Asian? Someone said he looks like Bruce Lee.

[Zulithe]

is the stream not working or is it over? :(

i see nothing on the empire stage

[Luckyday]

Renae Jacobs does voice April's Mom in next weeks episode.

Please give me spoliers through PM?

http://www.narutoforums.com/images/smilies/series2/omges1.png

[ShelleyQuick]

Eternally grateful for those who are posting updates on the panel. I can watch, but, can't listen at work. Thanks:)

[evan2000]

Damn they are watching the Buried Secrets episode:ohwell:
Are they showing the full episode? The online stream has been paused for some time.

[Megchan]

is the stream not working or is it over? :(

i see nothing on the empire stage

Pretty sure they're just showing a clip. Which sadly we can't see.

[Vicky82]

Found this on Twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzmz110CcAAFyta.jpg

[Zulithe]

Pretty sure they're just showing a clip. Which sadly we can't see.

sigh, cons are so picky about the clips and trailers :(

it's still awesome that it's even being streamed to begin with though (if they'd hurry and restart it)

[tmntfanuk]

Are they showing the full episode? The online stream has been paused for some time. Yeah, its been like that for about ten mins for me...

[Vicky82]

Are they showing the full episode? The online stream has been paused for some time.

Yeah it's the full episode

[evan2000]

Which is more fitting? This:

http://i.imgur.com/SilP1TF.jpg

Or this? :tlol:

http://i.imgur.com/lCG1uqT.jpg

[IndigoErth]

Aren't they lucky...

'Course, on the down side some/many of them may not manage to be in front of a tv when tonight's episode airs and having seen next week's now they get to be bored for two weeks.


Which is more fitting?
Hmm.. Not sure I really see Irma as Mikey's type. Renet though, if made young and bubbly, I could see that maybe.

[Megchan]

Yeah it's the full episode

What exactly is the point of the live feed if they're not going to show the whole panel?!

[IndigoErth]

It's back finally.

Guess they saw the whole thing, assuming that was long enough sans commercials.


Both versions of Karai figure?

[Zulithe]

HUMAN Karai action figure just confirmed?

[IndigoErth]

Aw, guess it's over. Well that was fun, thanks for pointing out that it was gonna be online. :D

[brosuke_hanamura]

This one was mostly promos that we weren't allowed to see if we weren't at the panel but at least we could to see Hun again

[JonesyKitty]

Saw someone posted the concept art, so here's the cg model for Speed Demon Donnie
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag271/tmntfan1984/speed%20demon%20donnie_zpsadwf0cpd.png (http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/tmntfan1984/media/speed%20demon%20donnie_zpsadwf0cpd.png.html)

[NinjaPug]

So Hun is younger in this version and still a rival to Casey?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzmwjO-IMAAERw5.jpg

[snake]

Anyone else at the panel?

[tmntfanuk]

HUMAN Karai action figure just confirmed? What?! What was said?! Oh, man, PLEASE let it be so!

Yeah, the live stresm wouldnt work for me after after they played the Halloween clip... :(

[Mona_Lisa]

So Hun is younger in this version and still a rival to Casey?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzmwjO-IMAAERw5.jpg

Why did you say that he is still a rival to Casey? Did I miss something?

[IndigoErth]

What?! What was said?! Oh, man, PLEASE let it be so!
I dunno, I didn't sound like a solid confirmation imo but when asked if they meant regular or mutated they did say "Both?"


Saw someone posted the concept art, so here's the cg model for Speed Demon Donnie
That's officially scarier than the Creep. lol Maybe more than Creep and Rat King combined. Is that going to be a dream, too, or how the hell will they fix that mess, and without Donnie's help. :lol:

[matteso586]

Renae Jacobs does voice April's Mom in next weeks episode.

Aha! I was right! See the thread I made about Renae Jacobs and that woman that portrayed Karai in the 2014 movie.