Would You Consider Kraang Prime Female?

[ShelleyQuick]

Since Kraang Prime is voiced by Roseanne. Of course I know the VA of a cartoon character is sometimes irrelavant(i.e. Bart Simpson), but, anyway if KP is female wouldn't that make her/him/it an extremely powerful entity, considering she/he/it rules and entire dimension? Again I'm not entirely serious the thought just popped into my head.

[Luckyday]

It would just make them more like a insect colony. I would end up wondering more about their biology and maybe gender roles.

[IndigoErth]

I've only ever read it mentioned as male, and the Turtlepedia site lists it as male (although I can't say I have any clue where they get their info from), but personally I can't not hear Rosanne so I kind of automatically view it as female.

Not quite sure I want to know how all that works where the Kraang are concerned. :lol: "I feel scared."

[MaximeLoonatic]

Kraang Prime it's a dude?!
And I thought that it was like the queen be of the Kraang...

[Coola Yagami]

This thread needs to be locked... Before cybercubed posts and brings on the shitstorm.

But for the record I think she's female. They have the hive mind goin on and KP is the queen bee.

[travelingcat]

People think it's female? KP struck me as male. Though it would make a bit of sense since the Kraang have a hivemind thinking.

[evan2000]

I assumed all Kraangs are genderless. Heck, we don't even know how they reproduce. Do they lay eggs, or they just split-multiply like an amoeba? :teek:

[Luckyday]

I like to think that they reproduce in a similar manner à la Ridley Scott's Alien.

[PangolinFeets]

I assumed all Kraangs are genderless. Heck, we don't even know how they reproduce. Do they lay eggs, or they just split-multiply like an amoeba? :teek:
Yea, if the physics of their dimension are that different from ours I can only imagine their biology is too. They appear to be gastropod-y, yet they have bones. *shrug*

[Mellie]

I don't really think of gender when it comes to the Krang.

[evan2000]

Yea, if the physics of their dimension are that different from ours I can only imagine their biology is too. They appear to be gastropod-y, yet they have bones. *shrug*

I thought they are closer to squids, with tentacles and all, although squids do have gender and do lay eggs.

I don't really think of gender when it comes to the Krang.

That's why I said they should be genderless. And if the mutagen-infected Squirrelanoids are any indication, creatures from Dimension-X probably multiply by splitting.

And then there's the Kraathatrogons who feed "milk" (mutagen actually) to their young, like mammals do. I give up :tanime:

[Metalhead 2.0]

kraangs ain't got wangs.

[ShelleyQuick]

:lol: some of these responses had me chuckling out loud at work, I'm glad people took it as light hearted as it was intended. :)

[IndigoErth]

Maybe that's what this whole mutation thing is about... they're just jealous of earth creatures.:roll::tlol:


And then there's the Kraathatrogons who feed "milk" (mutagen actually) to their young, like mammals do. I give up :tanime:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060626052801/en.futurama/images/8/80/Slurm-1-.jpg

Look, slug people. The new in-show cartoon that attacked the slug people in the first episode is a euphemism for ending mutagen addiction.

[ObiWanFan4life]

It's a question best left unanswered. :teek:

[pannoni1]

:lol:

Since it is unknown based on what we know so far, I assume that the Kraang Prime are genderless. The regular Kraang don't have a specific clue as to what they are since all are. I wasn't sure if the original Krang from the OT was male or female until many years later. My opinion leans toward the amoeba theory despite the assumption of being all-male.

[BubblyShell22]

I remember watching a behind the scenes clip on Nickelodeon where two kids were with Ciro talking about what was going to happen on TMNT before the finale aired. Ciro showed them Kraang Prime and confirmed that KP was male, so that's how I've always taken it. Though I do agree that it's hard not to hear Roseanne and automatically assume it's a female.

[CyberCubed]

Ciro already confirmed Kraang Prime was male. I'm baffled this is even being discussed. Anyone who thought Kraang Prime was female was out of their minds.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Ciro already confirmed Kraang Prime was male. I'm baffled this is even being discussed. Anyone who thought Kraang Prime was female was out of their minds.

.......................... (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49452)

[BubblyShell22]

And here we go. No, we weren't out of our minds because I thought it was stated somewhere at first that KP would be a queen bee type of leader, so we assumed that she was going to be female. We know now KP is male, but to imply that we're all out of our minds for thinking differently is dumb on your part. Oh, wait, I forget who I'm talking to.

[evan2000]

I wouldn't consider anything as "confirmed" unless it is specifically mentioned in the show itself. Not even if Ciro said it. I mean, he did say that the leaked storyboards were NOT TRUE, no?

As for the question if Kraang Prime is male or female, it could be neither (or both, like snails) - ie. genderless. The same could also be true for Krang in the OT, as I don't recall any episodes ever mentioning Krang's gender.

[Candy Kappa]

For all we know the Kraang could be sexless, more then two sex or hermaphrodites. They might not even have a concept of gender until they where exposed to human society.

[IndigoErth]

Life in it's entirety is baffling, isn't it...

Since when is any aspect of the franchise not open for discussion. And why would it be so preposterous that anyone who's unsure might ask and lean toward assuming it's female because it in fact sounds like Roseanne Barr, who sounds like a woman, rough as her voice may be.

More baffling Turtles discussions have certainly been had. (Like nostrils... but that's for another forum.)

[Metalhead 2.0]

Life in it's entirety is baffling, isn't it...

Since when is any aspect of the franchise not open for discussion. And why would it be so preposterous that anyone who's unsure might ask and lean toward assuming it's female because it in fact sounds like Roseanne Barr, who sounds like a woman, rough as her voice may be.

More baffling Turtles discussions have certainly been had. (Like nostrils... but that's for another forum.)

I think you've pin-pointed the question we should really be asking: Is Roseanne Barr actually female?

Do we have any brave volunteers to find out the answer to that question?

[CyberCubed]

I wouldn't consider anything as "confirmed" unless it is specifically mentioned in the show itself. Not even if Ciro said it. I mean, he did say that the leaked storyboards were NOT TRUE, no?

Ciro refered to Kraang Prime as a, "he" when the kids were asking him about it before the Season 1 finale aired.

Since Kraang Prime is essentially Krang from the OT reimagined, it would make sense he was male.

[evan2000]

Ciro refered to Kraang Prime as a, "he" when the kids were asking him about it before the Season 1 finale aired.

Since Kraang Prime is essentially Krang from the OT reimagined, it would make sense he was male.
As I said, even Krang's gender in the OT is questionable, as it was never mentioned in the show itself (not that I remember). It could well be genderless as well.

Referring someone with unknown gender as a "he" is very common too. Even within this forum itself, many times we referred each other as "he" although the forum member could be either gender. So take it with a grain of salt, I don't think Ciro really "confirm" anything.

[Coola Yagami]

Plus kraang prime is not it krang reimagined. It's an all new character. We've been through this already.

[CyberCubed]

As I said, even Krang's gender in the OT is questionable, as it was never mentioned in the show itself (not that I remember). It could well be genderless as well.

Krang was male in the OT. Krang's refered to as "he" and "him" several times by other characters.

Plus kraang prime is not it krang reimagined. It's an all new character. We've been through this already.

I know you're saying this just because I'm in this thread, but you know good and well Kraang Prime is intended to be Krang. That's why its the leader and that's why it has an android body that resembles the original, lived in the Technodrome, has stone warriors in Dimension X, and was making deals with Shredder.

He's a little different because EVERY old character who has returned was changed in Nick. Just like Bebop and Rocksteady aren't street punks anymore, Traag can't talk, Rat King was Falco, and Rahzar is now Dogpound.

[Metalhead 2.0]

Are we REALLY questioning whether or not a cartoon alien brain with tentacles has a penis?
Is it relevant to the story in any way or are some of you just trying to justify the thoughts you've been having?

[THGhost]

KP sounds female to me cos, y'know, they're voiced by Roseanne Barr. :P

As for KP being a re-imagined Krang, I really can't see it.

[IndigoErth]

Unisex species with multipurpose tentacles. That is all.

[Candy Kappa]

Unisex species with multipurpose tentacles. That is all.

A George Takei image response would be too easy...

[NinjaPug]

Krang was male in the OT. Krang's refered to as "he" and "him" several times by other characters.



I know you're saying this just because I'm in this thread, but you know good and well Kraang Prime is intended to be Krang. That's why its the leader and that's why it has an android body that resembles the original, lived in the Technodrome, has stone warriors in Dimension X, and was making deals with Shredder.

He's a little different because EVERY old character who has returned was changed in Nick. Just like Bebop and Rocksteady aren't street punks anymore, Traag can't talk, Rat King was Falco, and Rahzar is now Dogpound.

He's probably saying it because a former writer on the show said Kraang Prime isn't the Nick version of Krang.

[CyberCubed]

He's probably saying it because a former writer on the show said Kraang Prime isn't the Nick version of Krang.

He'd say that about any character though, because all the characters are so different than the past they're basically the same in name-only.

If Rahzar was named, "Wolf-man" I doubt anyone would have made the connection.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm just not seeing it. The character is just too different. Plus krang never led an army of his own race in other versions. And krang never had a second in command sub prime either.

[IndigoErth]

Kraang, we need more Kraang to further invasion of Kraang. Kraang is instructed to make sweet Kraang to Kraang to take over Earth for Kraang.

I'll... uh, just see myself out..
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[Metalhead 2.0]

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[pennydreadful]

FWIW, I'm of the opinion that you can be male without having a penis. They're aliens, I don't really imagine that they have a strict gender binary like most of the humanoids on Earth. ;)

[DarkFell]

http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.12876397.9619/sticker,375x360.u1.png
Best response ever.
Since I don't watch the Nick TMNT religiously, I have no real theory concerning Kraang Prime. However, I did read a few decent theories in this thread.

[blindturtle02]

I can't stop thinking of KP as female but that's because Rosanne is voicing the character. Does anyone know if they've addressed this in the show? I do remember Leo in the season one finale saying,"I can't hold it back any longer!" So Idk. Choose one or both, I guess.

[PRD13]

At this point, we should start arguing whether or not kraang sub-prime is Jewish because Gilbert gottfried is Jewish. Does it even matter if the kraang have gender? What matters is that they are evil, and should die like the alien scum they are.

[CyberCubed]

Pretty sure in Mirage the Utrom are genderless, which is what the Kraang are based on so...

[BabyTurtles]

I thought Kraang prime was female.....but I guess not? :-?

[Zatoichi]

Could be both genders? Or neither? Maybe the Krang just don't have genders?

[BubblyShell22]

I honestly don't know, but I can't stop thinking that KP is female based on the voice.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, and Ciro did confirm that KP is male. I'm just saying that even though I know he's male, it's hard for me to sometimes remember that because of the voice.

[Shark_Blade]

It's a "he" for me since he seems/acts like a guy in OT. It's kinda similar in 2k12.

Females voicing male characters are not strange. Look at Bart Simpson.

So I'm not automatically putting Kraang Prime as female just because the actor is female. He is male imo.

Ciro refered to Kraang Prime as a, "he" when the kids were asking him about it before the Season 1 finale aired.

Since Kraang Prime is essentially Krang from the OT reimagined, it would make sense he was male.

Krang was male in the OT. Krang's refered to as "he" and "him" several times by other characters.



I know you're saying this just because I'm in this thread, but you know good and well Kraang Prime is intended to be Krang. That's why its the leader and that's why it has an android body that resembles the original, lived in the Technodrome, has stone warriors in Dimension X, and was making deals with Shredder.

He's a little different because EVERY old character who has returned was changed in Nick. Just like Bebop and Rocksteady aren't street punks anymore, Traag can't talk, Rat King was Falco, and Rahzar is now Dogpound.Agreed. Krang was male in OT and 2k12 is male too. :)

Are we REALLY questioning whether or not a cartoon alien brain with tentacles has a penis?
Is it relevant to the story in any way or are some of you just trying to justify the thoughts you've been having?
Yes we are questioning that, how else would the Kraang impregnate April's mom resulting April's mutant status? Just by sticking a tentacle up her vagina?

[ShelleyQuick]

Yes we are questioning that, how else would the Kraang impregnate April's mom resulting April's mutant status? Just by sticking a tentacle up her vagina?

I seriously almost just spit iced coffee all over my keyboard:lol:

[IndigoErth]

How does a alien brain blob that can't even move easily on it's own 'act like a guy'?

Is it a lack of makeup? It must be a lack of makeup. And bows. Eyelashes. Female characters can't get away without a few signature gender indicators so we know it's female, even if it doesn't make sense.

Seriously, male characters all need to start wearing bow ties all the time so we're completely sure that they are in fact male.

(P.S. Snarkiness not aimed at anyone nor intended to start any fictional gender debates.)

[Candy Kappa]

Personal head canon, Kraang will refer themselves as male when speaking human languages due to the higher social status of, well being a man.

Would have been fun seeing a test trial of the robotic suits being female, and Kraangs dealing with catcalling.

[Metalhead 2.0]

Yes we are questioning that, how else would the Kraang impregnate April's mom resulting April's mutant status? Just by sticking a tentacle up her vagina?

Isn't that how they do it in Japanese Anime?

[Candy Kappa]

"I've seen enough hentai to see where this is going..."

[Midnight Mutant]

I thought KP was female. She reminds me of a queen bee. Bigger than the hive, worshiped and probably reproduces/lays eggs and what not.

I mean, I can see KP being a male or neither, hell even both sexes, but personally for me, I thought of her more as a queen bee of Kraang.

[Darthknuxward]

I seriously almost just spit iced coffee all over my keyboard:lol:

I actually spit root beer all over mine after reading his post. And my keyboards stickier than it's ever

To quote Candy Kappa: "I've seen enough hentai to see where this is going..."

[Coola Yagami]

Pretty sure KP is female to follow the queen bee deal. Even KSP is male and when it comes to bees the queen outranks the king.

Doesn't matter what Krang or the Utroms were. This is the Kraang were talking about. Past versions don't apply. The Utroms never wanted to rule the world and OT Krang never wanted to terraform the world into dimension x.

[CyberCubed]

Pretty sure KP is female to follow the queen bee deal. Even KSP is male and when it comes to bees the queen outranks the king.

Where are you getting this from? CIRO CONFIRMED Kraang Prime is male. You can't argue with the creator of the show.

[Coola Yagami]

Where are you getting this from? CIRO CONFIRMED Kraang Prime is male. You can't argue with the creator of the show.

He also confirmed the storyboards to be fake. That Timothy was going to have a big role in season 2. That Donnie was gonna take over as leader for most if the season. And so on so on. I can't really believe anything he says.

[BubblyShell22]

He had to confirm the storyboards were fake so as not to spoil things, Tim DID sort of have a bit of a role in season 2 even if it wasn't as big as we thought it would be, Donnie did take over as leader for a short time just as Ciro said. So, he's not lying.

[Coola Yagami]

He had to confirm the storyboards were fake so as not to spoil things, Tim DID sort of have a bit of a role in season 2 even if it wasn't as big as we thought it would be, Donnie did take over as leader for a short time just as Ciro said. So, he's not lying.

I'd say exxagrating. Once Tim became mutagen man his role was done for the whole rest of the season. Don wasn't leader any longer than raph was in that one episode. Ciro likes to take a little detail from one episode and make it seem like the whole season is gonna revolve around it.

[CyberCubed]

Ciro is just arguing because I say Kraang Prime is male and based on the old Krang. If it were anyone else he would not care.

Well, Coola, Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime was male right before the Season 1 finale eps aired back in 2013. He is the CREATOR and you cannot argue with CREATOR.

[Coola Yagami]

Ciro is just arguing because I say Kraang Prime is male and based on the old Krang. If it were anyone else he would not care.

Well, Coola, Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime was male right before the Season 1 finale eps aired back in 2013. He is the CREATOR and you cannot argue with CREATOR.

Still not seeing it. If so he needs to do a better job at making it clear it's male. Also not seeing KP as 'the Krang'. If anything if KP was destroyed and KSP took over you'd be bouncing all over the place calling KSP 'the Krang' and claiming you knew it all along.

[Gunpowder]

I always have. I like to think of it as a "Queen Bee" type of thing.

[CyberCubed]

Still not seeing it. If so he needs to do a better job at making it clear it's male. Also not seeing KP as 'the Krang'. If anything if KP was destroyed and KSP took over you'd be bouncing all over the place calling KSP 'the Krang' and claiming you knew it all along.

Kraang Prime is male. I'm honestly baffled how anyone could think its female.

[Shark_Blade]

http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kraang_Prime

It is stated as "he". ;)

[Coola Yagami]

http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kraang_Prime

It is stated as "he". ;)

Wikias don't count. I could go there right now and edit April's article stating that all four turtles take turns with her on a given day of the week.

[CyberCubed]

Wikias don't count. I could go there right now and edit April's article stating that all four turtles take turns with her on a given day of the week.

Its on the wiki because Ciro called it a "he."

You're fighting a losing battle here.

[Shark_Blade]

Ditto. We at least have actual fact uttered by the creator himself.

What proof do you have that it's female? None.

[Gunpowder]

Kraang Prime is male. I'm honestly baffled how anyone could think its female.

Aside from the fact that it's voiced by Roseanne Barr - a woman.

[Shark_Blade]

Aside from the fact that it's voiced by Roseanne Barr - a woman.Like I said, did you know Bart Simpson's voice actor is a woman?

So Bart is a woman now? No, that's nonsense. Female voicing male characters are not that big of a deal.

[CyberCubed]

Aside from the fact that it's voiced by Roseanne Barr - a woman.

Why is that an issue? Female voice actors voice male characters all the time, like Bart from Simpsons and a dozen anime characters.

[IndigoErth]

Well, to be fair, how many of those women are voicing adult non-feminine male characters; and Roseanne Barr voicing a male Kraang sounds like Roseanne Barr, not Roseanne Barr clearly putting on some other voice to try to avoid sounding female.

'Course, for all we know maybe the Kraang are like animals that can change gender.

[Gunpowder]

Like I said, did you know Bart Simpson's voice actor is a woman?

So Bart is a woman now? No, that's nonsense. Female voicing male characters are not that big of a deal.

Why is that an issue? Female voice actors voice male characters all the time, like Bart from Simpsons and a dozen anime characters.

That's true, and Kevin from Ed, Edd, n Eddy is also voiced by a woman. But the difference is that Kraang Prime SOUNDS like a woman (to me, at least). And I'm not saying that's an issue...I've just always interpreted Kraang Prime as a female. If Ciro said it's male, then fine. It's male. But I'll always consider it female because that was my first impression. Just like Terk from Tarzan was voiced by a chick (Rosie O'Donnell), and was supposed to be a girl, but I always thought of Terk as a boy - and still do.

[Gunpowder]

Well, to be fair, how many of those women are voicing adult non-feminine male characters; and Roseanne Barr voicing a male Kraang sounds like Roseanne Barr, not Roseanne Barr clearly putting on some other voice to try to avoid sounding female.

My thoughts exactly.

[tmntpower1988]

Kraang Prime reminds me of Frieza lol

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_9987.jpg

Looks and sounds female but is actually a male :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Like I said, did you know Bart Simpson's voice actor is a woman?

So Bart is a woman now? No, that's nonsense. Female voicing male characters are not that big of a deal.

Doesn't count. If it was so obvious that Bart was voiced by a woman, it wouldn't be such a big 'did you know???' thing, now would it? The woman is obvious going for the voice of a 10 year old boy and does such a good job, people are surprised to find out a woman is voicing him. Plus, you know, Bart is actually a boy.

KP is voiced like Roseanne and sounds like Roseanne. And I'm sorry, but I can't see that big evil toothy smile without thinking of some similar evil woman like Ursula or Cruela DeVill smiling.

[Metalwolf]

Doesn't count. If it was so obvious that Bart was voiced by a woman, it wouldn't be such a big 'did you know???' thing, now would it? The woman is obvious going for the voice of a 10 year old boy and does such a good job, people are surprised to find out a woman is voicing him. Plus, you know, Bart is actually a boy.

KP is voiced like Roseanne and sounds like Roseanne. And I'm sorry, but I can't see that big evil toothy smile without thinking of some similar evil woman like Ursula or Cruela DeVill smiling.Agreed. And as you've said, KP comes off as so much better being considered female. We don't often get to have female villains, and when we do get those, they often portrayed as pinup models with their boobies half hanging out. KP isn't ending up a Mary Sue any time soon, and wouldn't likely be a character that is seen through the lens of her femaleness. As such, KP as female would be perfect.

[THGhost]

Where are you getting this from? CIRO CONFIRMED Kraang Prime is male. You can't argue with the creator of the show.

Of course you can, they know nothing! :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Arguing with a creator that either greatly exaggerates thing or changes his story every other month isn't exactly the hardest thing to do. KP even looks female.

[Shiro Kame]

Considering that we don't have a whole lot of evidence of which gender Kraang Prime is, the VA is female, and the Kraang seem to operate on a Hive Mind with the big bad being the "queen", I'd have to say female.

[CyberCubed]

Considering that we don't have a whole lot of evidence of which gender Kraang Prime is, the VA is female, and the Kraang seem to operate on a Hive Mind with the big bad being the "queen", I'd have to say female.

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

[Rukitron]

My mind's blown Krang Prime is "male", just assumed he was the mother brain (I know bad pun, sorry)...

[NinjaPug]

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

Ciro never said Kraang Prime was based on Krang

[Coola Yagami]

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

So not based on OT Krang.

[THGhost]

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

That doesn't make it scripture.

[CyberCubed]

Ciro never said Kraang Prime was based on Krang

He pretty much is for the following reasons:

- Kraang Prime is a warlord from Dimension X

- Lived in the Technodrome (at least in Season 1)

- Has an Android body that resembles the original with the antenna on top

- Has Traag and Granitor as his bodyguards

- Makes deals with Shredder

- Leads an army and now has a personal vendetta against the Turtles


I think you guys are kidding yourselves because while the Kraang are just evil Utroms, Kraang Prime is clearly meant to be THE Krang. They would have never made a leader Kraang if they didn't want the classic Krang in the show

[Coola Yagami]

He pretty much is for the following reasons:

- Kraang Prime is a warlord from Dimension X

so are the rest of the Kraang
- Lived in the Technodrome (at least in Season 1)
so do the rest of the Kraang
- Has an Android body that resembles the original with the antenna on top
Just the antenna as a homage
- Has Traag and Granitor as his bodyguards
Traage and Granitor were never OT's Krang's bodyguards. Traag lef an army of stone warriors. We haven't seen any yet.
- Makes deals with Shredder
They're the two major villains in the show, regardless they had to team up or cross paths sooner or later
- Leads an army and now has a personal vendetta against the Turtles
an army of invading aliens. what personal vendetta? That's Shredder. These guys are just mad that the turtles defeat them or stand in their way.

I think you guys are kidding yourselves because while the Kraang are just evil Utroms, Kraang Prime is clearly meant to be THE Krang. They would have never made a leader Kraang if they didn't want the classic Krang in the show

Nope. The Kraang are basically 'evil Utroms' and the Utroms never had a leader, unless you consider Mortu to be one. This is Hivemind Queen Bee Kraang. Deal with it.

[NinjaPug]

So you go from saying that Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is Krang to "he pretty much is"

Keep telling yourself that. I'll listen to people who worked on the show when they say they aren't the same character.

[CyberCubed]

So you go from saying that Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is Krang to "he pretty much is"

Keep telling yourself that. I'll listen to people who worked on the show when they say they aren't the same character.

So you're saying that Ciro and crew brought back every single other major OT character, as well as many minor characters like Mutagen Man, Muckman, etc. who only ever appeared in 1 episode of the original series.....but they're not bringing in "Krang" the second most important and memorable villain of the original show besides Shredder?

Yeah, no. If you notice the Nick show has slowly but surely been bringing back almost all the major or notable characters from the 80's show and toyline. So saying they would ignore Krang of all characters when EVERYONE ELSE is being brought back makes no sense.

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

[NinjaPug]

I'm not saying that. One of the writers said that.

The Kraang is the Nick version of Krang/Utroms mashed together.

[evan2000]

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

If they are the same character, their name would at least match? No extra 'a' in the spelling and no 'prime' behind?

They paid homage to OT Krang, but they're not the same character per se. I don't expect Kraang Prime calling Shredder "you bumbling idiot" any time soon.

[Coola Yagami]

So you're saying that Ciro and crew brought back every single other major OT character, as well as many minor characters like Mutagen Man, Muckman, etc. who only ever appeared in 1 episode of the original series.....but they're not bringing in "Krang" the second most important and memorable villain of the original show besides Shredder?

Yeah, no. If you notice the Nick show has slowly but surely been bringing back almost all the major or notable characters from the 80's show and toyline. So saying they would ignore Krang of all characters when EVERYONE ELSE is being brought back makes no sense.

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

Nope. They had two choices in where they could have gone. Krang. Or the Utroms. They choose the Utroms and made them evil, and named them Kraang. And gave them a hivemind queen bee leader. And a sub leader super spy. They can't bring in 'The Krang' cause they already went with the Evil Utroms.

Bringing both in would be as redundant as bringing in Ch'Rell as well.

[Coola Yagami]

If they are the same character, their name would at least match? No extra 'a' in the spelling and no 'prime' behind?

They paid homage to OT Krang, but they're not the same character per se. I don't expect Kraang Prime calling Shredder "you bumbling idiot" any time soon.

He who is the one known as Shredder is the kind of idiot known as bumbling.

[CyberCubed]

I'm baffled by what you're getting at, of course the Kraang are based on the Utrom only evil. That's not what I'm debating.

But what I'm saying is why have a leader at all? Kraang Prime exists to be Krang, otherwise we would simply only see Kraang and no "leader" so to speak. The Utroms never had a leader either.

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

[evan2000]

He who is the one known as Shredder is the kind of idiot known as bumbling.
You made my day :tlol:

[Coola Yagami]

I'm baffled by what you're getting at, of course the Kraang are based on the Utrom only evil. That's not what I'm debating.

But what I'm saying is why have a leader at all? Kraang Prime exists to be Krang, otherwise we would simply only see Kraang and no "leader" so to speak. The Utroms never had a leader either.

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

Didn't Mortu lead the Utroms? Didn't they have some kind of high council or something? Stop the nonsense. They needed some kind of leader. An army doesn't pull an invasion without someone leading the charge and calling the shots. Why not just have the Foot be a bunch of ninjas. No Shredder. Just random army of ninjas without any clear leader.

You also don't need everyone to spell it out for you. The Kraang have all the characteristics of a hive mind race withe KP being the 'Borg Queen'. You don't need some character to be all like 'hey kids at home, these guys kinda remind me of a bee colony, duh-huh-huh'. Not everything has to be spelled out for you.

[evan2000]

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

Or we could settle with gender being a moot point for aliens from Dimension X with different physics law, and probably different biology characteristics as earth's. Ciro did not confirm KP is male. He only referred KP as a "he" because sometime we also use "he" to refer to animals with unconfirmed gender. Let alone aliens :sweatdro:

[CyberCubed]

Kraang Prime is Krang, because Ciro would never not use Krang.

[Coola Yagami]

Kraang Prime is Krang, because Ciro would never not use Krang.

Ciro decided to use the Utroms instead. Boo hoo. Plus a Russian Rocksteady that says 'da' and an Asian Hun. Huzzah!

[neatoman]

Here's my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

[Coola Yagami]

Here's my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Yep. This thread needs to be locked.

[Candy Kappa]

Here's my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Cybercubed cares, with a raging passion :lol:

[THGhost]

Why is this still being debated? :lol:

Here's my answer.
RFZrzg62Zj0

Why can't YouTube uploaders upload clips that actually have audio that ends properly? :roll:

[BubblyShell22]

It's still being discussed because Cybercubed won't let it go. I think Kraang Prime is an homage to Krang but is not the actual Krang since he has Prime attached to his name and the original Krang never wanted to be called that. So there you go.

[FoxBoxKid]

I think the Kraang are a genderless species.

[DarkFell]

And I think that parts of this thread had a good deal of people doing this..
nSmDXt2roWo
So much bickering over origins of fictitious little alien brains.
Still agree with neatoman's former reply.

[ShelleyQuick]

Wow, I can't believe my post had a big reaction:) Gender debate aside, those finger lips quivering when she/he/it/whatever, lol, is angry is creepy as all Hell, and totally cool:)

[THGhost]

Can we all just agree to stop posting in this thread now?

Oh, ****. :P