Big Captain America 3 news - RDJ/Iron Man will be in it

[NinjaPug]

Will start the Civil War storyline. So freaking pumped for this.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/robert-downey-jr-to-join-captain-america-3-exclusive-1201312229/

[TurtleTitan97]

Aw yeah!!! This is gonna be so good. :tcool:

[Davetello]

They're adapting Civil War for the films? That sounds fantastic :)

[ToTheNines]

Do not want.

Maybe they'll pull it off, but like... they're gonna turn Iron Man into a villain? It can't really be a civil war with the small amount of superheroes in the mcu. And there's like what two heroes with secret identities? How is there going to be a registration act?

Worst of all, DC was looking like a bunch of Marvel copying punks... now Marvel is making Iron Man v. Cap months after Batman v. Superman.

[TigerClaw]

That is some huge news! I wouldn't be surprise if episodes of Agents of Shield will reflect what happens after Captain America 3, like the Winter Soldier did.

[psychturtle]

oh man, sh*t just got really real in the Marvel Cinematic universe. Holy crap.

I wish Batman V. Superman was still head to head with Cap. I would totally watch Cap 3 first haha.

I can't figure out if they actually will do a Civil War movie or not. It sounds like they will but they may actually have it where IM is pro registration until he realizes the true baddie behind it.

[CyberCubed]

I thought he didn't want to play Iron Man outside of Avengers. I guess he saw the $$$ and couldn't resist.

[snake]

Do not want.

Maybe they'll pull it off, but like... they're gonna turn Iron Man into a villain? It can't really be a civil war with the small amount of superheroes in the mcu. And there's like what two heroes with secret identities? How is there going to be a registration act?

Worst of all, DC was looking like a bunch of Marvel copying punks... now Marvel is making Iron Man v. Cap months after Batman v. Superman.

This. Don't start civil war when you have maybe, like, 9 super-heroes.

[ZariusTwo]

Civil War was garbage, it panders to the lowest common reading denomenator, made Stark a fascist and on top of that it created the Mephistoverse...which, I guess with the lack of Spidey around, we don't have to put up with.

Yet another bankrupt idea from the house of none.

[blindturtle02]

Soooo, what about the whole Thanos arc? I hope they end it before the third Avengers movie because I want to see that infinity gem stuff. Civil War doesn't sound too bad either. I read the novelization of this arc and liked most of it.

[PangolinFeets]

I'm excited if this leads to Planet Hulk/WWH.

[psychturtle]

You guys do realize that they a civil war movie will most likely differ from the printed version. I'm guessing it starts out with IM vs. Cap but IM will turn face again and join cap. The civil war will tie together with Thanos.

[blindturtle02]

You guys do realize that they a civil war movie will most likely differ from the printed version. I'm guessing it starts out with IM vs. Cap but IM will turn face again and join cap. The civil war will tie together with Thanos.

That's exactly what I'm hoping. Thanos should be that threat which reunites the two.

[ToTheNines]

Civil War was garbage, it panders to the lowest common reading denomenator, made Stark a fascist and on top of that it created the Mephistoverse...which, I guess with the lack of Spidey around, we don't have to put up with.

Yet another bankrupt idea from the house of none.

Right. It tries to be sophisticated and dramatic, but really it's about "what would happen if these heroes fought!?"

Childish.

[Jephael]

The only way I see this working is if Sony allows them to use Spider-Man. He was a big part of that storyline.

[Davetello]

"it panders to the lowest common reading denomenator"

:lol::lol:

Is there really any need for that? Heaven forbid someone enjoys something that you don't.

I do agree though that most Marvel stuff sucks nowadays.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought in the comics the Civil War was sort of silly, but I am ECSTATIC to hear that the Russos will helm this storyline. Winter Soldier was by far the best Marvel movie they've put out so far, and I can't wait to see what they do with Cap 3.

[psychturtle]

I would LOVE to see the Russo's take on elements of Civil War. They are perfect for that storyline if that is indeed what they hope to do with Cap 3

[NinjaPug]

"it panders to the lowest common reading denomenator"

:lol::lol:

Is there really any need for that? Heaven forbid someone enjoys something that you don't.

I do agree though that most Marvel stuff sucks nowadays.

What do you expect from a DC fanboy?

[sdp]

Batman vs Superman is interesting because we've never seen it happen before but we will have already seen two movies with Iron Man and Caps together by the time Caps 3 comes out. I do like DC more than Marvel but I can't believe how much of a boner the genral consensus of the internet has over Marvel, most of their movies are average popcorn movies besides an outstanding movie here or there like the original Iron Man. I don't hate the Marvel films but they've failed to excite me since Avengers, Iron Man 3 got me pretty hyped up only to disappoint.

[TonySiegel]

So we won't get to see cap fight red skull again? wait, iron man hasn't fought fing fang foom or the mandarin in a movie yet?

damm...

[Leofan26]

I haven't seen the first two flicks yet, should I? Me being an Iron Man fan has me curious.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I haven't seen the first two flicks yet, should I? Me being an Iron Man fan has me curious.

Absolutely.

Cap 1 is a pretty good movie. It's not another one of those dark, depressing comic book movies about how horrible everyone is. It's pretty much the opposite where Cap is someone you really want to root for.

Cap 2 is wonderful (though you should probably watch Avengers in between). Amazing acting, great music, and excellent directing make this one a real treat. The story is shockingly brilliant, as well.

[sdp]

Captan America is a generic superhero movie, its not bad by any means but it does nothing new and follows the "Marvel" formula which it has some comedy action and decent story but just nothing makes it noteworthy. Its a fun watch but I'll never see it again.

Captain America 2 I did not finish since I fell asleep but the first hour felt so boring that I just couldn't finish it but to be fair I was fairly tired that day. I've been told its the best Marvel movie after the original Iron Man/Avengers so I'll give it another chance.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Jeremy Renners Hawkeye confirmed for the film :D

[TigerClaw]

Captain America: Civil War to start filming in two weeks, Plus check out the Synopsis.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=116944

Synopsis
"Following the events of Age of Ultron, the collective governments of the world pass an act designed to regulate all superhuman activity. This polarizes opinion amongst the Avengers, causing two factions to side with Iron Man or Captain America, which causes an epic battle between former allies."

[ZariusTwo]

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Concept art revealed


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=120050

[TigerClaw]

Martin Freeman has been cast in Captain America: Civil War
http://marvel.com/news/movies/24562/martin_freeman_joins_marvels_captain_america_civil _war

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Ho lee shiiit

This movie just keeps gettin' better and better.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I keep hearing rumors that General "Thunderbolt" Ross is going to be in it, but have not seen official confirmation...

REALLY hope this happens. Not only would it tie back to The Incredible Hulk (so underrated), but it would be perfect for reinventing The Superhuman Registration Act.

After Hulk's little rampage in Wakanda, General Ross, Tony Stark, and SHIELD pass that little bit of legislation; Cap objects... BOOM. Movie happens. :tcool:

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I keep hearing rumors that General "Thunderbolt" Ross is going to be in it, but have not seen official confirmation...

REALLY hope this happens. Not only would it tie back to The Incredible Hulk (so underrated), but it would be perfect for reinventing The Superhuman Registration Act.

I hope so too.

The beginning and ending of TIH were really good. The middle was just.... muddle.

I noticed a TIH easter egg in Daredevil - it's on a newspaper behind Ben Urich's desk. So the film hasn't been completely forgotten.

[Mona_Lisa]

Wow this sounds Awesome :tcool:, I love Ironman, this could be as great as seeing Leo and Raph fight!:D

[plastroncafe]

I'm sort of surprised that people are surprised that Tony Stark would be in a Civil War movie. But then...I realize not everyone reads Marvel, and probably doesn't know how the Civil War plot goes.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm sort of surprised that people are surprised that Tony Stark would be in a Civil War movie. But then...I realize not everyone reads Marvel, and probably doesn't know how the Civil War plot goes.

The only reason a lot of people were surprised is because RDJ's contract is only good for so many movies... and sometimes it seems like he's not the easiest actor to work with, seeing how he understands that he is the face of the MCU and Disney likes to hold onto its cash.

Honestly though, I still wish we were getting JUST a Captain America movie. I want the hunt for Bucky to be the main focus... really don't want that getting lost in the Stark/Rogers drama. :tconfuse:

I hope so too.

The beginning and ending of TIH were really good. The middle was just.... muddle.

I noticed a TIH easter egg in Daredevil - it's on a newspaper behind Ben Urich's desk. So the film hasn't been completely forgotten.

The story wasn't the best, but the cast was perfect. Betty and General Ross were great, as was Abomination... and ever since seeing TIH, I much prefer Norton to Ruffalo. Norton is just so NOT a strong looking guy. He's skinny and nerdy. Ruffalo just looks beefy and ready for a fight.

[plastroncafe]

I guess?
I'm still over here boggled that it's Civil War and people are surprised it's not going to be Cap vs Ironman.

[TigerClaw]

Synopsis and Full Cast revealed!
http://marvel.com/news/movies/24586/marvel_studios_begins_production_on_marvels_captai n_america_civil_war

Set for release in the United States on May 6, 2016, Captain America: Civil War is directed by Anthony and Joe Russo from a screenplay by Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely. The film returns Chris Evans as the iconic Super Hero character Steve Rogers/Captain America along with Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man, Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier, Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson/Falcon, Paul Bettany as The Vision, Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye, Don Cheadle as Jim Rhodes/War Machine and Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch.

After his debut in Marvel’s Ant-Man on July 17, 2015, Paul Rudd will make his first appearance alongside the Avengers as Scott Lang/Ant-Man in Captain America: Civil War.

The film also includes outstanding additional cast, including Chadwick Boseman as T’Challa/Black Panther, Emily VanCamp as Sharon Carter/Agent 13, Daniel Brühl, Frank Grillo as Brock Rumlow/ Crossbones, William Hurt as General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross and Martin Freeman.

Captain America: Civil War picks up where Avengers: Age of Ultron left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.
General Ross, The Vision and Ant-Man are part of the cast.

[NinjaPug]

Awesome - Thunderbolt Ross is back.

Love that Ant-Man is going to be in it. Would it kill them to go ahead and have Evangeline Lilly become Wasp and put her in Civil War?

[TigerClaw]

Awesome - Thunderbolt Ross is back.

Love that Ant-Man is going to be in it. Would it kill them to go ahead and have Evangeline Lilly become Wasp and put her in Civil War?
What are the chances of Thunderbolt Ross becoming Red Hulk like in the Comics?

[NinjaPug]

What are the chances of Thunderbolt Ross becoming Red Hulk like in the Comics?

With Ruffalo not being in Civil War I can't see that happening in this movie. Unless they're keeping his appearance in the movie under wraps.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

With Ruffalo not being in Civil War I can't see that happening in this movie. Unless they're keeping his appearance in the movie under wraps.

Agreed. I'm still surprised Marvel is acknowledging ANYTHING from The Incredible Hulk. :teek:

[Cure]

I don't think Marvel is good at keeping anything under wraps. If they were, they'd let Spider-Man be the big surprise, not Hulk.

[plastroncafe]

True, but...in their defense. Getting Sony to share Spidey is something I'd have wanted to crow about from the rooftops too.

One of the many reasons I don't work in that industry.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't think Marvel is good at keeping anything under wraps. If they were, they'd let Spider-Man be the big surprise, not Hulk.

In their defense, this day and age doesn't make it very easy to keep anything under wraps. Remember how nobody was surprised at Talia al Ghul in The Dark Knight Rises?

Or how nobody was really surprised that Quicksilver was killed in Age of Ultron?

[Cure]

Sure. Point is I doubt anything is being kept secret.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sure. Point is I doubt anything is being kept secret.

When was the last time we were surprised by Marvel? Honest question.

Thinking about it myself, they have managed to keep secrets until fairly close to the actual film's release:

Iron Man 3's "Mandarin" debacle wasn't found out until a few weeks before the release (at the most).
Avengers 2's character death was rumored shortly before the release. Spoiler: Quicksilver.
Captain America 2, we all assumed Pierce was Red Skull but rumors told us that wasn't true before the release...
Any secrets in Guardians of the Galaxy? I don't remember any of the rumors for that one. Damn, that's still my favorite MCU film. :tcool:

[Warhorse]

In their defense, this day and age doesn't make it very easy to keep anything under wraps. Remember how nobody was surprised at Talia al Ghul in The Dark Knight Rises?

Or how nobody was really surprised that Quicksilver was killed in Age of Ultron?

The latter I can thank the New York Post for that leak. Bastards. I was going to grocery store, a little over a week from when the movie was supposed to open, and right there in the front of the store were the newspapers, with the Post, in big lettering "Well, X-Men's Quicksilver Won, at Least he Survives his Movie!"

Man, I was sooooo pissed.

[Candy Kappa]

In their defense, this day and age doesn't make it very easy to keep anything under wraps. Remember how nobody was surprised at Talia al Ghul in The Dark Knight Rises?

Or how nobody was really surprised that Quicksilver was killed in Age of Ultron?

It's a Joss Whedon flick, someone the audience like is going to die :lol:

[Cure]

Did the audience really like Coulson? I never liked him.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Did the audience really like Coulson? I never liked him.

I liked him as a minor walk-on role to provide a face for SHIELD and connective tissue for Phase 1 MCU. I'm glad the films consider him officially dead, because I have no interest in Agents of SHIELD.

Next up! Agent Quicksilver, where a character killed in the new Avengers movie gets brought back to life but never reintroduced to the big-screen canon! :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Set pics:

https://i.imgur.com/77rYgVv.png

https://i.imgur.com/cjvb894.png

https://i.imgur.com/Zwbo66x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YjwjGJr.png

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Who's the blonde? Is that Sharon Carter?

[TigerClaw]

1st set images of Frank Grillo in the Crossbones costume.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120609

https://i.imgur.com/4yJDnwr.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Looks like the Full Metal B*tch's escorts from "Edge of Tomorrow." :tlol:

And no, that's not a bad thing.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So apparently...

Cap and Sharon Carter attend Peggy Carter's funeral

I like this. It's tragic, but it's a necessary step in helping Steve Rogers move even more fully into the here and now instead of lingering in the past and "what might have been."

It'll also probably be the start of any relationship with Sharon... both grieving together.

[TigerClaw]

Huge news, if this turns out to be true.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=121234
General Ross to become the Red Hulk.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Huge news, if this turns out to be true.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=121234
General Ross to become the Red Hulk.

I hope not. Keep that for The Incredible Hulk 2 or 3.

[blindturtle02]

I hope not. Keep that for The Incredible Hulk 2 or 3.

Do you think we'll ever get more Hulk movies? Sounds like they're just using him in Avengers stuff and that's about it. I'd actually enjoy seeing more Hulk films, but if he shows up in some of these solo films I'd also be cool with that.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Do you think we'll ever get more Hulk movies? Sounds like they're just using him in Avengers stuff and that's about it. I'd actually enjoy seeing more Hulk films, but if he shows up in some of these solo films I'd also be cool with that.

No, I really don't. Universal's got the rights for distribution, and Marvel doesn't want to share their money.

So no, we're never going to get Betty Ross back, or Doc Sampson, or the Leader, or Red Hulk, or She-Hulk. TBH I was shocked they brought back General Ross. Made my freaking day.

[blindturtle02]

No, I really don't. Universal's got the rights for distribution, and Marvel doesn't want to share their money.

So no, we're never going to get Betty Ross back, or Doc Sampson, or the Leader, or Red Hulk, or She-Hulk. TBH I was shocked they brought back General Ross. Made my freaking day.

Yep, made mine too. I think Ross is a cool character, and am glad William Hurt is portraying him. Hurt is also a great audiobook narrator, which is how I actually found out about him in the late 90's, funnily enough. Sounds like Civil War is shaping up to be pretty big. Maybe not big and red, but I can always hope.

[TurtleTitan97]

First look at Black Panther costume on set: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/12/captain-america-civil-war-first-look-at-black-panther-costume/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

So T'Challa is in it?! Woo-hoo!! Awesome. I was hoping that might happen when they went to Wakanda in AoU, but they didn't really show anything about the country, or mention him, so I was a tad disappointed. Nice to hear.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

First look at Black Panther costume on set: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/12/captain-america-civil-war-first-look-at-black-panther-costume/

Maybe it's T'challa's dad, and Bucky does assassinate him after all? Thus leading into the Black Panther movie in 2017?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

That could work. Hadn't thought of that.

[CyberCubed]

I haven't been following news too closely, but from what I hear this is a Captain America film that has:

- Iron Man
- Spiderman
- Black Panther

Really? All 3 of these superheroes will be in Captain America 3 next year?

[TigerClaw]

I haven't been following news too closely, but from what I hear this is a Captain America film that has:

- Iron Man
- Spiderman
- Black Panther

Really? All 3 of these superheroes will be in Captain America 3 next year?
and maybe the Red Hulk.

[TurtleTitan97]

I haven't been following news too closely, but from what I hear this is a Captain America film that has:

- Iron Man
- Spiderman
- Black Panther

Really? All 3 of these superheroes will be in Captain America 3 next year?

Why act surprised? The movie's called Captain America: Civil War. Why wouldn't they have other heroes from the MCU appear considering the comic storyline the film is basing itself on?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I haven't been following news too closely, but from what I hear this is a Captain America film that has:

- Iron Man
- Spiderman
- Black Panther

Really? All 3 of these superheroes will be in Captain America 3 next year?

Actually, Cubed, this is the list of main characters:

Captain America
Falcon
Black Widow
Ant-Man
Iron Man
Hawkeye
Hulk
Scarlet Witch
Vision
Black Panther
Spiderman

[CyberCubed]

LOL, why not just call this Avengers 3 while they're at it? Only Captain America's name in the title is going to trick casuals into thinking its another solo film.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

LOL, why not just call this Avengers 3 while they're at it? Only Captain America's name in the title is going to trick casuals into thinking its another solo film.

I agree wit' ya, Cubed. As excited as I am for Civil War, I was MUCH more excited for Captain America 3 being a smaller movie, with only Falcon, Black Widow, and Cap hunting for Bucky.

Oh well.

[ToTheNines]

Maybe it's T'challa's dad, and Bucky does assassinate him after all? Thus leading into the Black Panther movie in 2017?

Interesting theory but I hope that doesn't happen. Literally the ONLY thing I like any Black Panther is his origin/beef with Klaw (or Man Ape in EMH). Is Andy Serkis attached to Civil War yet?

Granted some new material might impress me, but that stuff is the only thing from the comics I'd care to see adapted. Did BP have anything interesting going on in the Ultimate Universe? I'm not familiar with it.

[Foombamaroom]

I doubt it'll be full on Avengers. Most of these superheroes in it will probably be in it for an action sequence or two. Either way, I'm excited as frickity frack.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I doubt it'll be full on Avengers. Most of these superheroes in it will probably be in it for an action sequence or two. Either way, I'm excited as frickity frack.

Honestly, I think we can assume Avengers will take up around 50% of this movie.

Going with just some theories...


Scarlet Witch mistakenly kills some people
Black Widow may be a spy for one of the two factions, turning on them (I'm thinking she's ultimately Cap's ally)
Hawkeye will have at least one scene... he may even lose his family, which will mean more scenes
Iron Man is gonna chew up the scenery and screentime
Hulk may mistakenly kill some people
Ant-Man frees Bucky


That's at least 1/3 of the movie right there.

[CyberCubed]

Its weird that Captain America's name alone is in the title. It should be called Avengers: Prelude to War or something like that.

It tricks people into thinking its another Captain America solo film. I knew Iron Man was in this too but I had no idea half the other Avengers were also in it.

[TurtleTitan97]

Cap's name is in the title because the movie is mainly going to be focusing on him and his team against Tony's. Quite simple, really.

On that note, more set pics: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=123929

[Leo656]

It's called "Civil War", Cubed, what did you-... OH, right, you don't comic book. Still, that story was kind of a big deal. Figured you would've got the memo at least.

Also, the reason it's not an "Avengers" movie is because Whedon himself pretends those movies aren't directly connected to the other films, so they have an insular storyline within their own trilogy that only loosely, but barely, connects to the other films. The arc of the Avengers movies has always been about building up to Thanos. The storyline of Civil War itself just plain fits better within the story that they've built up in the Captain America films, than it would as an Avengers film. It *could* work as an Avengers film, particularly since Cap and Iron Man are the two main characters, but 1. More than half the related characters aren't really Avengers, anyway, and 2. That's not the movie Whedon's been setting up.

As an event, Civil War is kind of a big deal, but small potatoes compared to The Infinity War. It makes sense to have it be done in a side movie. Particularly a Captain America movie, since we all know he's... ah, if you read about it you know. :trazz:

[sdp]

:lol: at the apologists, this is the same as when Batman v Superman was supposed to be a Man of Steel sequel with a Batman cameo which evolved into a full movie that no longer counts as a MoS sequel. The same thing happened to this movie, this is not a Captain America film, but at least in the case of DC they admitted that it was no longer a Superman film. I guess if you want to be "technical" It isn't an Avengers movie but it's a "crossover" movie with the Avengers invovled. No matter what it is not Captain America 3.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

:lol: at the apologists, this is the same as when Batman v Superman was supposed to be a Man of Steel sequel with a Batman cameo which evolved into a full movie that no longer counts as a MoS sequel. The same thing happened to this movie, this is not a Captain America film, but at least in the case of DC they admitted that it was no longer a Superman film. I guess if you want to be "technical" It isn't an Avengers movie but it's a "crossover" movie with the Avengers invovled. No matter what it is not Captain America 3.

This. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for both "Civil War" and "Dawn of Justice." But I really wanted "Captain America 3" and "Man of Steel 2." Them's the breaks for big CBM business, I guess.

[Leo656]

Who's "apologizing"? It's the f*cking reason why they're doing it that way. They were always going to do Civil War, but they don't have the luxury of waiting another 5 years or so for Whedon to finish doing His Own Thing with the Avengers movies. Gotta stick it somewhere. And Captain America is basically the main character of the whole thing anyway.
Because he's gonna die.
You don't think it makes sense to actually have that happen in a Captain America movie? Yes, it's technically a little too crowded to "count" as a solo Cap film, but given he's the main character it also makes sense to do it in his movie. If they wait until after Infinity War everybody's gonna be too old and/or expensive, and they wanna get the stupid Spider-Man reboot off the ground sooner rather than later, too. Using the Cap movie to tell the Civil War story's the only option they have.

It could go either way. It can be an Avengers movie or a Cap movie. Whedon's already got Avengers booked, so it's a Cap movie with a lot of guest stars. Big deal. There's no conspiracy. It's business.

[Cure]

You keep mentioning Joss Whedon, but he's not even involved anymore. Age of Ultron was his last joint.

[Leo656]

Really? I swore they said the next one was the last one. That was the whole point, that the Avengers was all about building to Infinity War and everything else was everything else. Although I guess there's no problem keeping the same story intact with a different director doing it, but I swore it was the NEXT one that was Whedon's last one. Although to be fair, I could have missed a memo.

Regardless, the decision was made forever ago that Avengers was going to be the place they had Infinity War happen. They can't just bump that to do Civil War, it was already locked in.

[ToTheNines]

No. The Russo brothers are doing Avengers 3.

[sdp]

They were always going to do Civil War, but they don't have the luxury of waiting another 5 years or so....Gotta stick it somewhere. And Captain America is basically the main character of the whole thing anyway....If they wait until after Infinity War everybody's gonna be too old and/or expensive, and they wanna get the stupid Spider-Man reboot off the ground sooner rather than later, too. Using the Cap movie to tell the Civil War story's the only option they have.

That was the whole point, that the Avengers was all about building to Infinity War and everything else was everything else.
Regardless, the decision was made forever ago that Avengers was going to be the place they had Infinity War happen. They can't just bump that to do Civil War, it was already locked in.

What in the heck?
You're acting like Civil War is some epic Marvel storyline that needs to be made or was very important, it's nothing special just another annual crossover event that marvel had many years ago when it was politically relevant. Iron Man and even Spider-Man are as important as Captain America are to the story. Shouldn't Avengers 1 be a Thor movie with co-stars instead? How is this the only way to get Spider-Man into the MCU?

Where do you even get the idea that the Avenger films were only a way to build up to the Infinity War? Heck many people felt Iron Man 2/Cap/Thor where only made to build up Avengers which was only made to do the Infinity War? Thanos was only added at the last minute of Avengers and Whedon didn't really mean to do anything with him until Marvel saw how crazy people went over him being in it. If Marvel was really that concerend about telling storylines before some actors get old then there's many other far more important and iconic storylines to make than Civil war

They slowly changed Captain America 3 to whatever monster it became now because they want to make money and they were going to get murdered by Batman V Superman so what started as RDJ appearing in the movie evolved into this Avengers Jr. movie. That's the only reason this movie evolved so drastically. I'm not ragging on their decisions, I don't really care and find this more appealing than another Captain America film but people have the right to complain about it. People were pretty upset at DC too until they retconned BvS into being unrelated to a MoS2 which they still plan to do even if BvS started as MoS2, maybe Marvel just needs to say this is a crossover film and Cap3 will happen at a later time to avoid criticism. I'm sorry but your post makes absolutely no sense besides maybe you being a big fan of the storyline.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They slowly changed Captain America 3 to whatever monster it became now because they want to make money and they were going to get murdered by Batman V Superman so what started as RDJ appearing in the movie evolved into this Avengers Jr. movie. That's the only reason this movie evolved so drastically.

Absolutely. And it does make sense. But until that first trailer, with the Robin suit all "Death of the Family" and Wonder Woman being a BAMF, I was much less interested in Batman V Superman V Wonder Woman V Aquaman V Lex Luthor: Dawn of Justice League. :tlol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Who's "apologizing"? It's the f*cking reason why they're doing it that way. They were always going to do Civil War, but they don't have the luxury of waiting another 5 years or so for Whedon to finish doing His Own Thing with the Avengers movies. Gotta stick it somewhere. And Captain America is basically the main character of the whole thing anyway.
Because he's gonna die.
You don't think it makes sense to actually have that happen in a Captain America movie? Yes, it's technically a little too crowded to "count" as a solo Cap film, but given he's the main character it also makes sense to do it in his movie. If they wait until after Infinity War everybody's gonna be too old and/or expensive, and they wanna get the stupid Spider-Man reboot off the ground sooner rather than later, too. Using the Cap movie to tell the Civil War story's the only option they have.

It could go either way. It can be an Avengers movie or a Cap movie. Whedon's already got Avengers booked, so it's a Cap movie with a lot of guest stars. Big deal. There's no conspiracy. It's business.

Yup. Got it in one. Civil War is a turning point story, that had lasting repercussions for the Avengers and everyone else. Cap WAS a major player, but then so was Spidey, Tony, And if we want to be thorough, so were Thing, the Warriors, and Reed- since the original concept that led to the SHRA was shared between him and Stark. Actually, let's just include the entire Illuminati in that, which means Strange, Black Panther, Blackbolt, Xavier, and Namor, too. Kinda wonder how they can pullthis off when half the characters most intimately involved have never even been mentioned.


What in the heck?
You're acting like Civil War is some epic Marvel storyline that needs to be made or was very important, it's nothing special just another annual crossover event that marvel had many years ago when it was politically relevant. Iron Man and even Spider-Man are as important as Captain America are to the story. Shouldn't Avengers 1 be a Thor movie with co-stars instead? How is this the only way to get Spider-Man into the MCU?

Where do you even get the idea that the Avenger films were only a way to build up to the Infinity War? Heck many people felt Iron Man 2/Cap/Thor where only made to build up Avengers which was only made to do the Infinity War? Thanos was only added at the last minute of Avengers and Whedon didn't really mean to do anything with him until Marvel saw how crazy people went over him being in it. If Marvel was really that concerend about telling storylines before some actors get old then there's many other far more important and iconic storylines to make than Civil war

They slowly changed Captain America 3 to whatever monster it became now because they want to make money and they were going to get murdered by Batman V Superman so what started as RDJ appearing in the movie evolved into this Avengers Jr. movie. That's the only reason this movie evolved so drastically. I'm not ragging on their decisions, I don't really care and find this more appealing than another Captain America film but people have the right to complain about it. People were pretty upset at DC too until they retconned BvS into being unrelated to a MoS2 which they still plan to do even if BvS started as MoS2, maybe Marvel just needs to say this is a crossover film and Cap3 will happen at a later time to avoid criticism. I'm sorry but your post makes absolutely no sense besides maybe you being a big fan of the storyline.


Actually, no. Civil War was ONLY the most important storyline in the last two decades, on par with Infinity War in scope and consequences. It was a turning point that changed everything about how most heroes acted, as well as public views of them. It led to bad blood that has in some cases lasted for years, not to mention de-powering protocols and the creation of Facility 42. This was NOT just an annual crossover event, it was YEARS in the making, and a direct result of the MU's version of both 9-11 as well as the Stamford Disaster. It was always going to happen at some point.

[Leo656]

It was pretty important, especially in the way that it sold a lot of product, got a lot of attention, and made Marvel a lot of money. It was talked about in the newspapers, even before The Big Ending. Even as it was rolling out, people were like, this is gonna be a movie one day." All "generic company cross-overs" should be so lucky. Plus, it wasn't forever ago, so it's still semi-relevant.

I don't even read or pay a lot of attention to Marvel, and I know most of how that whole story goes just because it was something people didn't shut up about for like 3 years. It was a pretty big deal. And in a movie business model that seems to currently believe "More Characters = More $$$", but at the same time is aware that fans prefer to keep things tight to the source material, it's a tailor-made story for a comic book movie. I don't think anybody had a single solitary doubt they were going to do it as a movie, and I'm not sure why some people seem surprised about it.

[CyberCubed]

If Spiderman isn't going to have his standard costume in this then I'm disappointed. We don't need to see some generic make-shift costume, this is Spiderman's debut in the Marvel universe and something people dreamed about for years. Everyone knows his backstory thanks to 5 previous films so they don't have to cover it again.

They should have just done what they're doing with Batman in the new DC movie, and have him already established as a hero for years rather than starting over as square one again.

[NinjaPug]

According to people in attendance, the footage at D23 made it evident that this is a Cap movie and not just another Avengers movie. That's a relief.

[ToTheNines]

If Spiderman isn't going to have his standard costume in this then I'm disappointed. We don't need to see some generic make-shift costume, this is Spiderman's debut in the Marvel universe and something people dreamed about for years. Everyone knows his backstory thanks to 5 previous films so they don't have to cover it again.

They should have just done what they're doing with Batman in the new DC movie, and have him already established as a hero for years rather than starting over as square one again.

I bet we see his homemade costume first, then Iron Man hooks him up with bad ass suit.

[ranger_scout]

Principal photography has concluded.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/474991-captain-america-civil-war-wraps-principal-photography#/slide/1

[TurtleTitan97]

Leaked images from the D23 trailer have popped up online: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=124551

[TigerClaw]

Leaked images from the D23 trailer have popped up online: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=124551
Looks like it was taken down, hope someone saved it.

Update: Found it here.

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[Foombamaroom]

Ha. I love the little Black Widow/Hawkeye moment.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=124728

Apparently Hulk is no longer a part of the story. Well, not featured in the story... if Ross is in it, Hulk is still gonna be in play, just not present.

[NinjaPug]

Rumor out there that we're getting a trailer for Civil War tonight on Kimmel. Both Evans and RDJ are scheduled to be on tonight.

[Vicky82]

Rumor out there that we're getting a trailer for Civil War tonight on Kimmel. Both Evans and RDJ are scheduled to be on tonight.

Damn, that means I have to wait till I wake up tomorrow morning to see it.

But it probably won't be up yet when I wake up at 5:30am for work, due to time zone differences and what time Kimmel starts. :lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

uVdV-lxRPFo

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

SWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.

That shot of Bucky and Cap tag-teaming Tony at the end. Man I can't wait for May. :tcool:

[Foombamaroom]

o_o
OH MY ****.

Okay, complaints first: WHERE IS SPIDER-MAN? No, but my real complaint: this trailer makes it seem like Cap's a bit of an asshole, which is quite the opposite in the comics.


BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JESUS CHRIST. THIS LOOKS AMAZING. The tag-team looks beautiful. The cinematography makes me so happy. DON'T FAIL US, RUSSO BROTHERS.

[Vicky82]

Wow awesome, I can't wait. :D

[Raph's Girl]

So basically it's a custody battle over Bucky.

And Cap...really? Newspapers in your shoes?

[Leo656]

So basically it's a custody battle over Bucky.


:lol: I said the same thing! :lol: Great visuals, but really looks like they may have seriously watered-down the story. I was hoping it would be more directly related to fallout from Avengers 2 and stuff. Which it may be, they'll probably touch on it a little bit, but there wasn't any of that kind of thing in the trailer. Ah well.

Should be pretty good fun. I guess I'm just still hoping the plot lives up to the visuals.

[Foombamaroom]

Am I the only one who loves the practical feel this movie has? 60% of Age of Ultron looked like it was made in a computer, so it's nice to see actual things in front of the camera. My god, this movie looks 10x better than what I thought it was gonna be, and I had SUPER high hopes for it before watching this trailer. I feel like I'm gonna be squealing when I see it again during Star Wars.

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer looks awesome to me.

[CyberCubed]

I thought Spiderman had a huge role in this movie. Judging by the fight scenes he's not in any of them. They showed Hawkeye, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Bucky all with Captain America fighting against everyone else. Spiderman was not in that scene.

[Andrew NDB]

I thought Spiderman had a huge role in this movie. Judging by the fight scenes he's not in any of them. They showed Hawkeye, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Bucky all with Captain America fighting against everyone else. Spiderman was not in that scene.

Sizeable, but certainly nothing I've read would lead me to think it's a "huge" role. In fact, until only the last couple of months it was almost universally stated as a mere "cameo" (and remembering back even further a year ago when Marvel was still brokering the deal for Spider-Man, they'd said "Too late for us to include Spider-Man now, we're moving forward without him"). And I'm pretty sure they'll save him for the final trailer or the film itself. Everyone and their mom wants to see the "real" Marvel Spider-Man's debut and they know that. Why let the cat out of the bag early? That'd be bad marketing.

I'm sure trailers and spots to come will delicately reveal the people not already shown (Ant-Man, etc.).

[ZariusTwo]

I liked it. They're reining in a pretty bloated story and focusing it on one or two characters with others encircling them. I like that that it's a more personal movie without having a zillion political perspectives from other writers on other heroes

I love to break this to people, but the original Civil War story was always a bit rubbish, full of too many political sea-sawing and out-of-character nonsense. The only parts of it I ever enjoyed were with Cap, She-Hulk and Spidey...and the latter was rendered null and void when he made a deal with satan.

[Commenter 42]

I wan't blown away, but it looks really solid. I like that the "superhero" vibe is almost an afterthought - The spectacle takes a back seat in this trailer, the effects happen and feel natural, not painted in.

Not sure about the story itself. That feels smaller in scope than I was expecting.

[ZariusTwo]

That feels smaller in scope than I was expecting.

This is a good thing.

[Etsyturtle2]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Is all I have to say.:teek:
Loved black Panther and the story, while differing from the comics, looks great.

[TigerClaw]

Looks pretty good, and it feels a lot more serious then the last one.

[Foombamaroom]

Not sure about the story itself. That feels smaller in scope than I was expecting.

Okay, I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it did shock me. Then again, this is more of a teaser trailer, and they didn't show too many action scenes except for little clips, so we'll see.

As long as it's not Age of Ultron everything-going-boom, I'm fine.

My only real concern is if the Russo Brothers and Co. make Infinity War small scaled. Like, I know they're going to pump out a good movie, but small-scale won't work for Infinity War.

[Amaranthus]

This just proves people will love everything done by Marvel Studios even though it's not true to the comics.

[ZariusTwo]

This just proves people will love everything done by Marvel Studios even though it's not true to the comics.

In this instance, I'm very glad some things are not true to the comics.

[plastroncafe]

Because if there's one thing Marvel NEVER does, is grievously retcon their own storylines to suit their current needs.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Keep in mind there are a lot of characters who didn't even get screen time in the trailer. Martin Freeman, Sharon Carter, Ant-Man, not even Spider-Man. The trailer made the film seem like it would have a contained story, but I'm sure that it will be MUCH bigger ins cope.

[Vicky82]

Keep in mind there are a lot of characters who didn't even get screen time in the trailer. Martin Freeman, Sharon Carter, Ant-Man, not even Spider-Man. The trailer made the film seem like it would have a contained story, but I'm sure that it will be MUCH bigger ins cope.

Antman was in the trailer, he was very small :lol:

[Bry]

In this instance, I'm very glad some things are not true to the comics.

That trailer alone is a better story than the Civil War comic was.

[Vicky82]

New Synopsis For CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR Asks You To Pick A Side

Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War finds Steve Rogers leading the newly formed team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. But after another incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability, headed by a governing body to oversee and direct the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers, resulting in two camps—one led by Steve Rogers and his desire for the Avengers to remain free to defend humanity without government interference, and the other following Tony Stark’s surprising decision to support government oversight and accountability. Get ready to pick a side and join the nonstop action playing out on two fronts when Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War opens in U.S. theaters on May.


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=127346

[Foombamaroom]

The teaser for Age of Ultron made it seem much smaller-scaled than it actually was, so there's no doubt in my mind that they're just piecing footage together to make it seem smaller scaled.

I'm not expecting this to be as big as an Avengers movie (except for like the last 40 minutes), just bigger than Winter Soldier.

[CyberCubed]

Man, age is starting to creep up on some of the actors. They obviously don't look as young anymore as when they were first cast in their roles. Makes you wonder how long the current Marvel movieverse can go when the actors physically age in real life.

[Candy Kappa]

Man, age is starting to creep up on some of the actors. They obviously don't look as young anymore as when they were first cast in their roles. Makes you wonder how long the current Marvel movieverse can go when the actors physically age in real life.

They'll change out the actors eventually. RDJ isn't Tony for life.

[ZariusTwo]

Man, age is starting to creep up on some of the actors. They obviously don't look as young anymore as when they were first cast in their roles. Makes you wonder how long the current Marvel movieverse can go when the actors physically age in real life.

This is probably why Marvel have been pushing legacy characters into the public consciousness for a while now, to prepare them mentally for when they have to do it in the movies.

[Bry]

I mean, they've been pretty much constantly filming Marvel Studios movies for 8 years or more now, and Downey is 50 years old. "Hollywood 50", mind you... :lol:

None of them are anywhere close to shopping around for walkers or Rascal scooters yet, so I don't think it's a valid complaint. Not every superhero has to be in their 20s.

[NinjaPug]

RDJ is the oldest of the bunch and also plays the character that has the least physical requirements of them. He doesn't even wear the IM costume anymore. Age isn't the concern for Marvel - it's paying the actors to keep doing it. The contracts for all the big names are up after Infinity War so it's not even an issue now.

[MikeandRaph87]

RDJ is the oldest of the bunch and also plays the character that has the least physical requirements of them. He doesn't even wear the IM costume anymore. Age isn't the concern for Marvel - it's paying the actors to keep doing it. The contracts for all the big names are up after Infinity War so it's not even an issue now.

That is if you do not count 66 year old Samuel Jackson as nick Fury. If so you have Avengers age range from 26 (Elizabeth Olsen) to 66 (SLJ). I like they are keeping the same actors and neither the actors themselves or the audience tire of them in the roles. Downy Jr. does not wear the costume? Probably not for a bulk of his role in Captain America 3: Civil War, but if the Avengers are going to square off against one another he will need more than one arm worth of armor.

[NinjaPug]

That is if you do not count 66 year old Samuel Jackson as nick Fury. If so you have Avengers age range from 26 (Elizabeth Olsen) to 66 (SLJ). I like they are keeping the same actors and neither the actors themselves or the audience tire of them in the roles. Downy Jr. does not wear the costume? Probably not for a bulk of his role in Captain America 3: Civil War, but if the Avengers are going to square off against one another he will need more than one arm worth of armor.

I'm not counting Fury since he's never in action minus one small scene in the first Avengers. Plus he's not an a Avenger.

RDJ might put the armor on for a scene or two per movie but that's it and only for scenes with exposition where the mask is off. The IM suit is primarily CGI now.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Correction- Jackson had a rather large action scene in Winter Soldier, culminating in his supposed death.

[NinjaPug]

Correction- Jackson had a rather large action scene in Winter Soldier, culminating in his supposed death.

I don't consider driving a car being in action. I'm talking about scenes that put a physical toll on one's body.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't consider driving a car being in action. I'm talking about scenes that put a physical toll on one's body.

Well, he got pulled over by racist cops and had to deal with traffic. In my experience, that creates physical stress on a body.

[Foombamaroom]

Just imagine if there's a scene in this movie where Tony punches Steve and Bucky has a flashback to the scene from The First Avenger in the alley. I think that'd break me.

[TigerClaw]

Apparently, Captain America and Iron Man might show up in Marvel's Spider-Man movie.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=127422

[sdp]

Lackluster trailer, I'm sure it'll be a "fun enough" movie but it looks like it follows the usual cookie cutter Marvel formula they do for all their movies. Not sure how people can get so excited for this besides obviously being fanboys, which is fine by me, I'm a fanboy of many things but don't try to sell the movies like they're something more.


As far actors aging, it'll be sad to see RDJ go but of course they need to re-cast, I don't understand when I see people say that they need to kill Iron Man because RDJ is getting old. Why are people so opposed to the James Bond treatment? Why do we have to reboot everything when we get a new actor? Spider-Man should've continued without Tobey, you can still call it "Amazing Spider-Man and maybe even keep it a loose continuity where some events maybe happened slightly different but don't tread over the same ground, there's so many stories these characters can tell to have them rebooted time and time again. So yeah I want the MCU to continue long after RDJ and the others actors vow out, sure Marvel has tons of characters but I don't want to watch a d-list hero movie because "RDJ is too old", get new Tony Stark characters.

[Leo656]

It's just one of the many ways people are stupid. They get so married to "Their" version of a character, it becomes inconceivable to them that someone else might put on the goofy costume to play make-believe for a couple years... and possibly do an even better job.

Like back when "Superman Returns" came out, I sh*t you not, I had WAY too many conversations with idiots saying things like, "How can they do another Superman movie? The guy's dead!" I'm like, "Clearly, they're having another actor do it." "Yeah but how can they do that?!" I mean never mind the fact that Reeve hadn't played the role in 20 years anyway and had been paralyzed for almost 15; the idea of anyone else wearing the costume in a movie was, to some people, some kind of crazy impossible, blasphemous idea to even think about. Same with Keaton/Batman and Nicholson/Joker and a dozen other movie characters. To this day, whenever any new Superman or Batman-related movies come out, you'll always get a group of fanatical rubes who will object with the stupidest reason imaginable, "They just should never make another movie without (X), he was perfect!" Yeah, go f*ck yourself, that's a horrible attitude.

Iron Man's pretty much my least favorite of the "main" Avengers, so seeing him eventually get recast won't bother me. I mean he's a talking head with a goatee and a pocketful of self-important snarky quips; not exactly a deep character who would be tough to cast. It's simply, people enjoy RDJ in general, they also like him as Iron Man, thus, the idea of a New Guy replacing him with some "lesser" or "unproven" actor is, to some marks, a bad idea. Never mind the fact that pretty much anyone could play the role, since you never see his face for 90% of a movie anyway. It would be insane for a studio to spend like $40 million to keep ONE actor under contract rather than recast him.

I'm pretty sure that's why the ending of Avengers 2 made a big deal out of introducing the "Scab Avengers", like Falcon and those guys, in case they need to eventually do a movie without Cap and Iron Man but are too chickensh*t to recast anyone major this soon. As if anyone wants to see a movie starring War Machine and Falcon over Cap and Iron Man, but that seems to be their strategy. :trazz:

I'unno, at this point I welcome new versions of guys like Iron Man, or even Wolverine over at the other studio. It's not like any of those guys are irreplaceable. The only guy I'm not looking forward to seeing replaced is Cap, but I'm sure I'll live.

[CyberCubed]

I think the whole Marvel movie universe should take a dirt nap for a good decade once they have to start recasting roles. By then they'll have made 20+ Marvel movies anyway so they'll have "burst their load."

[sdp]

See I never cared for Iron Man until the movie, that's when I started to like the character. No other Marvel movie has done that for me. I don't want another actor but when time comes I'll accept it. Comics have used sliding timelines for nearly a century and I think movie superheroes have to do the same. Some actors will be more iconic than others oh well. Not to mention when these movies start making less money they'll be forced to get new actors that demand less money.

Yeah Marvel needs to stop making so many movies but I don't see that happening as long as they keep making movies, but with Fox/DC/Marvel all having multiple films now per year, we'll be seeing plenty of Fantastic Fours B.O. bombs. There's no slowing this gravy train for the companies and they'll ride it until it crashes and almost nothing survives. Casual audiences will start getting tired and the internet fanboys aren't enough to make these blockbuster movies continue. Too bad DC got in so late to the game, at least their "dark" universe should keep things a little fresh We'll see how long they'll be able to keep this schedule of so many superhero movies per year. Avengers 2 was already considered a disappointment even if it still made a ton of money, Civil War seemed to be more hyped than A2 but with this trailer it did polarize some people so who knows, most people seem to only be excited about Deadpool/BvS/Infinity War/Suicide Squad/GotG2, who knows if the other movies will be able to make it.

[ToTheNines]

I remember this totally asinine petition years ago trying to say that no one should ever portray Joker onscreen again after Ledger passed away. Got on my nerves.

[XERO]

The Joker thing makes me laugh. This is a mofo who's had a sh*tload of origin stories, but then people get mad when he gets replaced by an different actor.

Yeah, ok. Same people who got mad at Affleck for being Batman but are now kissing his ass after seeing the teaser trailer.

It's hilarious.

[CyberCubed]

I oddly remember some people complaining that Jack Nicholson didn't reprise his role as Joker before the movie came out too, then they all realized they liked Ledger better.

[NinjaPug]

New photo of Black Panther from EW:

http://i.imgur.com/dByQ1BY.jpg

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oooh! Where's the "like" button for THAT?! Love the costume. Still wondering if it's actually T'Challa or his father, but at this point, I'll take it! As for recasting- well, I'm not a big fan of recasting while an actor is still physically and mentally capable and willing to do a role- anything less feels like a cheap cop-out- but if they can't do it, that's okay. Not MARRIED to a particular actor/character set, but there are SOME I prefer over others, simply because they GET the character better. RDJ IS Tony Stark, and not just looks-wise. Most casual fans forget that RDJ once had a huge drug problem, just as Tony was an alcoholic- so he gets that dark underbelly of the character. He even brings some of that to the role, like that scene in IM2 where he actually got drunk to do that fight with Rhodey during the party. As someone with addiction issues, he understood what that should look like. He made it convincing.

Unless another actor can also dig that deep into a character from more than just looks and maybe how they talk, they will never be as good at that character. Unfortunately, too many actors (cough, Floptastic Four, cough) don't "get" the characters, or think they are just a suit and a few catch-phrases. These are characters who have been fleshed out and nuanced over DECADES, and they deserve better than lip-service. So it can't be just ANY actor doing a role. If or when the Avengers get recast, it will have to be with talented actors who are as good at understanding the characters as the current crew. Otherwise, it just won't work.

[sdp]

Black Panther works best for me when its the Avengers/Marvel Heroes who go to Wakanda and get owned by the awesome nation. The costume looks a little too plastic looking, it'd be better if it were a little more basic.

So how is the MCU handling so many heroes? Counting we only see about a villain per movie and they're usually killed but we've gotten so many more heroes it almost feels out of balance. I think there's more heroes than villains in that universe.

[ToTheNines]

Hail Hydra.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

They haven't even touched AIM, MODOK, or any of a dozen other big bads yet..... Thanos is in the wings, Ultron is notoriously hard to destroy permanently, and Hydra is always lurking.... And Loki is still around.

[ToTheNines]

They wasted AIM in Iron Man 3.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They wasted AIM in Iron Man 3.

AIM, the Mandarin, Rhodey... yeah, lots of wasted potential.

[NinjaPug]

IM3 was a waste of time. Easily the worst movie in the MCU.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

IM3 was a waste of time. Easily the worst movie in the MCU.

Agreed. Thor and Thor 2 were lousy, but IM3 just pisses me off.

[ZariusTwo]

Martin Freeman will become a recurring character in future MCU movies after Civil War

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/captain-america/news/a776192/martin-freeman-is-sticking-around-in-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-after-captain-america-civil-war/

[XERO]

It's only a matter of time before Benedict Cumberbatch becomes a MCU entree.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's only a matter of time before Benedict Cumberbatch becomes a MCU entree.

Uh... Doctor Strange, maybe? :trazz:

[JakeSully]

I think Spider-Man will appear in the stinger.

[ZariusTwo]

I think Spider-Man will appear in the stinger.

He's a big part of the movie.

[JakeSully]

He's a big part of the movie.

Really? im sure he might be in the second trailer.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

He's a big part of the movie.

Well, "BIG" maybe a tad optimistic. But yeah, he's confirmed to be part of the actual narrative.

[Foombamaroom]

I'm pretty sure Spidey's confirmed for a fight scene, which doesn't surprise me to be honest.

[Leo656]

I read a Yahoo News article yesterday that said there's a big scene that was filmed featuring Iron Man, Captain America, and an apparently unmasked Spider-Man. Evans was evasive about it in interviews, saying things like "You never know with Marvel, they film a lot of things and don't use them," without ever saying anything at all about whether "Yes or No, does that scene exist and did they film it?", and he added the usual "There's things I'm not allowed to talk about" bit. Downey just flat-out admitted it, though.

So there's that to chew over. If I happen to find it I'll post it, I wasn't thinking of it for some reason when I read it. I think I was at work. But it gave the general impression that Spider-Man may have a bigger part to play in the movie than a person might expect.

[MikeandRaph87]

I read a Yahoo News article yesterday that said there's a big scene that was filmed featuring Iron Man, Captain America, and an apparently unmasked Spider-Man. Evans was evasive about it in interviews, saying things like "You never know with Marvel, they film a lot of things and don't use them," without ever saying anything at all about whether "Yes or No, does that scene exist and did they film it?", and he added the usual "There's things I'm not allowed to talk about" bit. Downey just flat-out admitted it, though.

So there's that to chew over. If I happen to find it I'll post it, I wasn't thinking of it for some reason when I read it. I think I was at work.

I read on Yahoo! News just yesterday myself that Peter Parker's entry into the Marvel Cinematic Universe will be refreshing for two reasons. Peter is set to be a teenager and he has a secret identity which is something that escaped nearly all of the movie versions of heroes. I guess Peter joins that no secret identity trend instead of setting a new one.:trazz:

[Leo656]

I'm curious to see it. I had absolutely zero problem with Garfield's take, at all, I still think that whatever else anyone can say about ASM, he did a really good job. But not for nothing, it's like anyone could do better than whoever played Spider-Man in Raimi's movies. It was k.d. lang, I think? :lol: But yeah, I would have been fine if they kept him but scrapped everything else, but he got in trouble for talking too much, sadly.

So I'm curious to see if "Third time's the charm." I liked Raimi's movies when I first saw them but they've aged poorly in my eyes, and ASM had its own problems, so I'm not particularly married to either version of Spider-Man. The new guy looks like, 12, but I mean it's whatever, let's see how he does. :lol:

I won't be shocked if he has a bigger part than expected in the movie, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in a trailer sooner than later, either. Surprises are nice, but they also have no reason NOT to go all-in with their new Spider-Man. This is a movie like Star Wars, word of mouth doesn't matter at all, it's a guaranteed huge-seller, so you don't really need to keep anything under wraps, and most people have heard through the grapevine that Spider-Man is somehow involved, by now, anyway. If they show a glimpse of him early, all that happens is, anyone who likes Spider-Man but may have not been in a hurry to see Civil War, suddenly can't wait to go see it right away.

That's why some trailers end up being all "spoiler"-y like the Dawn of Justice trailer, and why it's not always a bad thing. It's usually a smart move, in actuality, because there's a history of those kinds of trailers helping push any straggling fence-sitters into the theater right away when they otherwise might have waited or not bothered going, once they see something interesting that they weren't expecting. It can be a good business strategy. More butts in seats on Day One is entirely what you want, and they care more about that than they do in "keeping the mystery".

They don't NEED to do that and do a Spider-Man reveal 3 or 4 months out, but I have a feeling they will, if for no other reason than to convince people who felt burned by ASM that "Hey, look, we're sorry, okay? Look, here, we see what we did wrong, isn't this cool?" They don't HAVE to do that, but they have no reason NOT to, either. They lose nothing either way.

[Bry]

Really? im sure he might be in the second trailer.

I expect the marketing will get increasingly Spidey-centric in the new year. And I imagine there'll be a final trailer in March playing up his role. ;)

[Leo656]

Why not, right? I know I'm going to see it regardless. But if I see Spider-Man in a trailer and I like it, it might make my decision to go on Day One or Two instead of waiting two weeks like I usually do.

There's a million guys like me who care about the movie but are in no rush, but are nonetheless easily manipulated by something shiny and new. :lol: Get those people in!

[CyberCubed]

Its pretty obvious Spiderman will get some decent screentime in the film. Obviously nowhere as much as Iron Man and the others, but he'll have sizable focus.

I just hope it doesn't spend too much time with him fooling around taking screentime away from important events. Like do we need to see Spidey fumbling and tripping over himself?

[Leo656]

So, Huge Potential Spoilers (although I guess not, for anyone even a tiny bit familiar with the comic books):

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/big-captain-america-civil-war-212448863.html

The Youtube channel, That Hashtag Show, claims that they have been provided with information on Marvel's Captain America: Civil War from a "source close to production."

"The movie begins with a funeral scene and it ends with a funeral scene," says That Hashtag Show. They then confirm that the opening funeral is for Peggy Carter (Hayley Atwell). Photos and videos leaked out in May indicating that Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) and Sharon Carter (Emily VanCamp) would be attending Peggy's funeral at some point in the film.

Onto to the next funeral! "Captain America: Civil War will end with the funeral scene for Captain America himself: Steve Rogers," they share. "During the film, Steve will make a deal with the government, stating that they are not to hunt down the people that allied with him in the Civil War. After Steve surrenders and is taken into custody he is killed."

"Cap's death is left a little ambiguous as to whether this was all planned out or not," they add. Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) will be very upset at Steve's funeral and the mood will be rather somber.

Even though Steve is dead, Captain America may not be. They say there is a scene in which three characters: Sharon, Winter Soldier (Sebastian Stan) and Falcon (Anthony Mackie) each pick up Cap's shield. In the comics, the latter two have taken on Captain America's mantle.


Can't say I'm surprised. I mean if you don't keep that part in, you kind of lose the entire point of doing the story in the first place. Good for them for having balls enough to go through with it.

[MikeandRaph87]

Not too surprising as it follows the cheaply done incident that capped the Civil War comic event. How much will it be explored across the films between it and Infinity War though? I just don't see Captain America sitting out Infinity War at least not Part 2.

[Leo656]

I imagine it'll all be resolved by then.
There's rumors that Cap will be resurrected either in time for, or during the events of Infinity War, his "death" and rebirth providing a convenient excuse to replace Evans with a younger - and cheaper - actor. Which makes perfect sense, as both Evans and Marvel haven't kept it a secret that his time as Cap was winding down anyways.

For what it's worth, it sounds like it's going to be handled a lot better than it was in the comics. I'm intrigued.

I keep clicking on articles about "What will Spider-Man's new costume be like in Civil War?" only to find out they're all the same: "Nobody knows yet." :lol: Goddamn it internet! :trazz:

[sdp]

Leo, why post in spoiler tags if you're going to basically spoil it after the spoiler tags?
Anyhwo I don't see them doing that in Civil War, I was sure they would save it for the infinity wars.

[Leo656]

Bullsh*t, that's completely vague as hell and only makes any sense AFTER you've read the spoiler.

[Jephael]

Gotta be honest here, I kinda hope the Infinity War two-parter is the end of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They had a good ride, but I think it's time to wrap things up already. I'm sure Marvel and Disney will be able to keep making money off these films for years to come, but maybe they could give us burnt out fans a break from all the over-saturated super hero craze!

[ZariusTwo]

Gotta be honest here, I kinda hope the Infinity War two-parter is the end of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They had a good ride, but I think it's time to wrap things up already. I'm sure Marvel and Disney will be able to keep making money off these films for years to come, but maybe they could give us burnt out fans a break from all the over-saturated super hero craze!

It'll probably be the end game for many of the ageing phase cast, but with the next wave like Strange, the Inhumams, Danvers and others, with the brand probably encircling Spider-Man from here on in, there's plenty of juice left in this tank

Then again, Marvel insist Iron Man is the flagship at the moment so who knows...

[NinjaPug]

Evans has already said he's signed on through Infinity War. All of the core MCU characters are.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, seems kind of cheesy to kill Steve then bring him right back in 2018... just to have Chris Evans retire from the role anyways in 2019.

Although, if they're aiming to go through the whole checklist, I could see Bucky taking up the mantle after Civil War and into Infinity Wars just so they can say they did it. Then after that, make it the Sam Wilson show so as to be in line with the current comic book continuity.

[Leo656]

Yeah, seems kind of cheesy to kill Steve then bring him right back in 2018... just to have Chris Evans retire from the role anyways in 2019.

Although, if they're aiming to go through the whole checklist, I could see Bucky taking up the mantle after Civil War and into Infinity Wars just so they can say they did it. Then after that, make it the Sam Wilson show so as to be in line with the current comic book continuity.

((Dickpunch)) That's for not puttin' Spoiler tags, ya jerk! If I get yelled at even when I use 'em then you get punched in the dick for not using 'em. Fair's fair.

((Dickpunch)) An' that's Two for flinchin'. :tgrumble:

[ToTheNines]

Civil War and Fallen Son are almost decade old comic books and this movie is named after the former. I'm just discussing how faithful the adaption may or may not be. The subject has been debated ever since the title reveal, it's nothing new.

[Leo656]

Yea but it's not faaaaaaaaiiiiiir. sdp yelled at me, an' I didn't even do nothin'. :tgrumble: You guys are mean.

[ToTheNines]

Well he's a well documented jabroni.

[Leo656]

Percent 1000, baba. A-number vun.

[ToTheNines]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1157566_1666866823570390_346186785866086019_n.jpg? oh=bbc8dcf3926984328d216ab3417cb00c&oe=570F2EBD

Yassss.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1157566_1666866823570390_346186785866086019_n.jpg? oh=bbc8dcf3926984328d216ab3417cb00c&oe=570F2EBD

Yassss.

If that doesn't happen in this movie, I will be so pissed.

[TurtleTitan97]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1157566_1666866823570390_346186785866086019_n.jpg? oh=bbc8dcf3926984328d216ab3417cb00c&oe=570F2EBD

Yassss.

I am very pleased. :D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6-WvKDIQato/VXsH8fjHlWI/AAAAAAAAIS8/rtwG4AaA_Yk/s400/0neAHGT.gif

[raph27]

I wouldn't be very surprised if Steve dies, I've been predicting it since Winter Soldier. Though I thought maybe they would kill him off in Infinity War, maybe as a Part 1 cliffhanger, and then replace him with either Bucky or Falcon.

[JakeSully]

Im sure the new trailer will be with Deadpool

[TurtleTitan97]

Supposedly this Spider-Man hoodie is part of the merchandise for Civil War:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYZ0k8GUQAEg742.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

hT1EU8D2CSQ

[TigerClaw]

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It got taken down, but here's another link to the video.
https://vid.me/AJZh

[Etsyturtle2]

Why is everyone who videotapes secret stuff terrible at holding the damn camera?!

[Amaranthus]

That crowd sounds like a bunch of batsh*t crazy manchildren.
Not like I'm surprised by this or anything.

[Raph's Girl]

Superbowl 50 spot:

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[sdp]

This is the first Marvel movie that has gotten me hyped since Iron Man 3, I won't be watching it anytime soon though since I have a huge backlog of MCU movies, basically everything after IM3. I'm surprised how they're basically marketing this movie as an Avengers crossover movie, poor Caps got screwed out of a movie and I guess two since the first movie was pretty much there to set up the Avengers. They must be really scared of BatmanvSuperman and rightfully so since those are the two most iconic superheroes that has so much hype even though it's gotten some pretty terrible and boring trailers.

[NinjaPug]

Good spot. I was hoping Marvel and Sony would've worked out the legal issues with marketing Spider-Man so they could've shown him.

[TurtleTitan97]

Good spot. I was hoping Marvel and Sony would've worked out the legal issues with marketing Spider-Man so they could've shown him.

Yeah, I was kinda hoping for just even a glimpse of Spidey.

Oh well, it was still a great spot either way.

[Leo656]

I don't think it's a legal thing at all, I definitely think they want to keep the "veil" over Spider-Man for as long as possible. We'll almost definitely see him in a trailer, but probably not until one of the very last ones, maybe not even until after the movie comes out and they do one of those "Now Playing" commercials.

People have surprisingly become more interested in seeing Spider-Man than almost anything else in the movie in recent months; I don't think they want to lose any of that buzz by having anyone online complain that "His costume looks like a wetsuit" or "His eyes are too big" or whatever, like people always do.

But yeah I doubt it's a legal thing.

[CyberCubed]

How much screentime will Spidey even get in the movie? Is this like a 15 minute scene or a good chunk of the movie?

[TurtleTitan97]

How much screentime will Spidey even get in the movie? Is this like a 15 minute scene or a good chunk of the movie?

He's supposedly in it for a good majority of the time.

[Leo656]

The guys who wrote it said they started writing the script before they had official approval to even use Spider-Man, and when they did get approval, it was a huge sigh of relief, because they had made Spider-Man so integral to the plot by then that they would have had to start writing the entire movie over from scratch and didn't have nearly enough time to do so.

So it sounds like he's pretty important. They stressed that it's definitely not a cameo and is much bigger and more important than that.

[sdp]

I don't care one bit about Spider-Man being in this movie and I like the character but the MCU is already too bloated and it doesn't need Spider-Man, I really wish Sony had been more careful with the reboot so it would've succeeded. There's enough going on in the Spider-Man world just like with X-Men that it could've been a "Shared universe" by itself like Fox is doing.


I also get the feeling that from now on we'll have at least one MCU crossover movie every year, there's just too many characters now and they don't seem confident enough that they can carry their own movie by themselves. I already read the rumors about Thor 3 adapting Planet Hulk and whatnot so the years we don't have an Avengers movie we'll have some type of crossover. I hope the DC Extended Universe isn't like this but based on Suicide Squad already having Batman and Joker it seems their also going this route. Crossovers are awesome but what makes them awesome is that they don't happen so often, we can't care about characters meeting each other if they're always together.

[NinjaPug]

I don't think it's a legal thing at all, I definitely think they want to keep the "veil" over Spider-Man for as long as possible. We'll almost definitely see him in a trailer, but probably not until one of the very last ones, maybe not even until after the movie comes out and they do one of those "Now Playing" commercials.

People have surprisingly become more interested in seeing Spider-Man than almost anything else in the movie in recent months; I don't think they want to lose any of that buzz by having anyone online complain that "His costume looks like a wetsuit" or "His eyes are too big" or whatever, like people always do.

But yeah I doubt it's a legal thing.

It's a legal thing

[Leo656]

sdp:

I don't exactly see the problem with any of that. That's how things are in the comics. Nobody exists independent from the other characters and everything constantly interacts and crosses-over. The only reason super-hero movie universes have always been so segregated is that conventional wisdom always said it would cost too much money to make a movie with multiple super-characters, and Hollywood no longer sees that as an obstacle, so they're going balls-out with everything.

I think that's fine. I agree the MCU is "bloated" but they could easily fix that by not trying to give every single character a trilogy of movies PLUS their appearances in group films. You literally don't need Iron Man 2 and 3 or Thor 2 for any reason at all, for example, and no matter what anyone says, Hawkeye and Black Widow should never have solo movies. THAT kind of stuff they can get rid of or avoid, and thus avoid a lot of the "bloat". But they shouldn't shy away from making their universe bigger, that to me is a good thing. They should just keep a tighter focus, maybe.

Pug: If you say so, I've heard otherwise. Care to extrapolate?

[NinjaPug]

The Russos said that was the case 2 weeks ago and that we probably wouldn't see Spidey until the movie.

It makes sense seeing as how Marvel doesn't own the film rights to the character. Everything they do with him must get approval from Sony.

[Leo656]

Makes sense. I'd heard "building suspense" but sure enough that could just be spin. Thanks.

Kinda works in their favor anyway, you gotta figure.

And isn't it stupid that Marvel has to get approval from Sony in how they use Movie Spider-Man, when in truth it should be the exact opposite? :lol: Christ. "Business" is so ridiculous.

[sdp]

I"m a big fan of expanding universes and always liked it in DC/Marvel cartoons but while there they introduced heroes and we never saw again and continued following X character here it seems everyone is getting their own movie or TV show and we meet all these awesome characters that we never see or get little to no screentime. It's almost the same problem the cartoon Young Justice had with the 20+ Justice League membership and dozens of characters. JLU was able to handle it pretty well. And yeah Iron Man did need more movies, I personally prefer IM2 over most other MCU movies and while IM3 was trash I still wanted to see more Iron Man. Avengers is a pretty lame movie if you take the cool factor of it being the first crossover movie. I also don't think comics have their crossovers all the time, sure they have special crossovers annually now but I remember reading Spider-Man books, Fantastic Four, Venom, Batman and they were all self-contained, so much that I knew little of the Marvel/DC universe as a whole, at least when I was growing up in the 90s.

[Bry]

The Russos said that was the case 2 weeks ago and that we probably wouldn't see Spidey until the movie.

It makes sense seeing as how Marvel doesn't own the film rights to the character. Everything they do with him must get approval from Sony.

That makes sense; I'm sure there are lots of ridiculously specific contract stipulations that'd make that whole process just the biggest headache.

But... I kind of like them keeping Spidey out of the trailers. One, it's a confident move. They don't need Spider-Man to sell this movie, he's just a bonus. And two, just as part of the audience, it's nice not seeing everything before the movie comes out.

So yeah, I kind of hope they keep Spidey solely for the actual movie experience. They have no need to be desperate, and anyone not actively following the production will get a nice surprise (and the movie will get a word-of-mouth boost because of it).

[NinjaPug]

It is ridiculous that Sony is the one with the final say when you look at their track record with the character but I'm not going to complain since they struck a deal for Marvel to use him. That's almost unheard of between studios. I'm glad the Russos are finally able to acknowledge that Spidey is in Civil War. That wasn't the case a couple months ago.

I just want a look at the suit so I'd be content with a EW cover reveal. Don't care about getting actual film footage of him until I'm in the theater.

[Leo656]

How the suits will look always makes me nervous in these things. Like, for everything else wrong with ASM2, the suit was perfect, they don't need any more tinkering. I get that they always will, more because it's standard practice than any actual reason, plus New Toyz to sell, but still. Costume designers always over-think and over-design their super-hero costumes, when fans would really just be happy with a straight rip from the comics that doesn't look like a Halloween costume. You don't have to over-think it. But they do anyway.

[CyberCubed]

I just hope its not some mock-costume where the real suit doesn't appear till Spiderman's solo movie.

[Kingoji]

Someone said earlier in the thread that the MCU doesn't need Spider-Man. That's like saying humans don't need air.

My personal speculation regarding Spidey's role is that he's an intern under Stark as Peter but siding with Cap as Spidey because he honestly doesn't know which one is right, and his importance hinges upon which one convinces him of their side.

Something Marvel have been consistent about with Spider-Man across his various media is that he's one of the most formidable heroes out there, with only humility, uncertainty, and naivety keeping him from being the greatest of them all. Certainly none of the characters yet seen to be part of the Civil War movie could stand up to him when he's determined.

His role in Civil War the comic is not relevant, because these movies borrow names of arcs but otherwise share practically nothing of story.

[ToTheNines]

It is ridiculous that Sony is the one with the final say when you look at their track record with the character but I'm not going to complain since they struck a deal for Marvel to use him. That's almost unheard of between studios. I'm glad the Russos are finally able to acknowledge that Spidey is in Civil War. That wasn't the case a couple months ago.

It's supremely annoying to me that Sony is involved at all. They're obviously idiots, why not just let Marvel handle it and collect the check?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The chanting in the latest commercial was awful. Geez, who thought THAT would be a good idea? :trolleye:

[Donatello19]

I actually liked it. As much as I hate using this word, it made it feel epic...to me, anyway.

[Sumac]

Superb owl trailer looked like your typical Marvel movie trailer.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_america/captain_america_civil_war/it-sounds-like-we-will-see-the-hulk-in-a131226

So according to Anthony Mackie, Bruce Banner IS in Civil War.

My theory is Bruce Banner appears, just not as Hulk. He's called in to testify or something? I mean, with General Ross in it, it just makes sense to have Bruce Banner in it as well, if just a couple of scenes.

[CyberCubed]

This movie has what...15 superheroes in it? Talk about clusterf*uck..

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This movie has what...15 superheroes in it? Talk about clusterf*uck..

Let's count 'em...

Captain America
Iron Man
Bruce Banner
Black Widow
Ant-Man
Vision
Scarlet Witch
Spiderman
Black Panther
Hawkeye
Falcon
War Machine

Yeah, 12. Plus Bucky, and I'm not counting Sharon Carter... she's been useless so far.

However, I think it's gonna be great as long as the Russo Bros. follow through on the main plotline of "Steve rescuing Bucky".

[NinjaPug]

I mean it's called Civil War. They kinda need a bunch of superheroes in it.

[CyberCubed]

They should of just called this Avengers 3: Civil War, because that's what it is.

Why pass it off as a Captain America movie when its basically an Avengers movie?

[ZariusTwo]

Why pass it off as a Captain America movie when its basically an Avengers movie?

Because the focus is on Cap and Bucky.

[NinjaPug]

The trailer made it pretty obvious Cap was the focus of the movie

[ToTheNines]

Nothing Earth-shattering, but it's been revealed that Pepper Potts will have at least a small role. Also, Markus and McFeely (the guys who've written each Cap film and created Agent Carter) will be writing both parts of Infinity Wars.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/captain-america-civil-war-adds-pepper-potts-infinity-war-connection-teased

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Iron Man gets to bring his supporting cast into EVERY teamup movie ever. :tlol:

Avengers 1: Pepper
Avengers 2: Rhodey
Civil War: Rhodey, Pepper

[Jephael]

Iron Man gets to bring his supporting cast into EVERY teamup movie ever. :tlol:

Avengers 1: Pepper
Avengers 2: Rhodey
Civil War: Rhodey, Pepper

Well, he is a fan favorite.

[ToTheNines]

The Infinite Comic prequel just came out about a week ago: https://www.comixology.com/Marvels-Captain-America-Civil-War-Prelude-Infinite-Comic-1/digital-comic/330069

I literally just downloaded it, so I can't speak to the quality of the story or art yet... but it's 77 pages for 2 dollars if you're interested.

[CyberCubed]

http://i.imgur.com/cpQfBye.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

The reason why you won't see Spider-Man in the trailers: Sony won't allow Marvel to advertise him

http://epicstream.com/news/The-Insane-Reason-Why-Spider-Man-Was-Banned-in-Captain-America-Civil-War-Trailers

[TurtleTitan97]

Well that's an incredibly stupid reason not to show him.

But then again this is Sony we're talking about, so I shouldn't be surprised that they'd do something like this.

[NinjaPug]

That isn't new. We discussed it a couple pages back.

This is exactly what one should expect from Tom Rothman.

[CyberCubed]

Some people don't even know Spiderman is even in this movie due to the lack of promo's or him being in the trailers. I think its kinda better this way, some people will be "shocked" when they see him and us hardcore fans won't get spoiled anything like with all the other characters.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think its kinda better this way, some people will be "shocked" when they see him and us hardcore fans won't get spoiled anything like with all the other characters.

Agreed. I don't want to see Spider-Man at all until I'm watching the movie.

[NinjaPug]

New trailer is being released tomorrow

[TurtleTitan97]

new trailer is being released tomorrow

Yessssss!!! :D

[ZariusTwo]

Here's some Team Cap/Team Tony spots

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[Vicky82]

New trailer is being released tomorrow

Cool I was wondering when the next trailer was coming.

I'm looking forward to the "where's Spiderman" comments on YouTube. :lol:

[drgon78]

It doesn't need another trailer, it got me interested a long time ago.

[Autbot_Benz]

looks like there will be a slew of Black Widow Merch with this movie

http://www.ew.com/gallery/civil-war-black-widow-merchandise/2516023_super-hero-adventures-marvel-figure-2-pack-hasbro-699?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

no more where's Natasha.

[Vicky82]

Looks like the movie run time is 2 hours and 26 mins (146 minutes), making this Marvel's longest movie.

http://comicbook.com/2016/03/08/how-long-is-captain-america-civil-war-/

[Autbot_Benz]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_america/captain_america_civil_war/rumor-spider-man-will-feature-heavily-a131895

Rumor is Spider Man might be in this trailer

[CyberCubed]

I have a hard time seeing Spiderman interacted with Iron Man/Captain America in a movie where they're literally fighting each other. It just doesn't seem like a good movie to debut him in. He's unknown to the Avengers at this point and he's just a High School kid.

Really makes no sense to see him involved.

[Amaranthus]

Spider-Man looks pretty bad.
Looks like those stuffed costumes little kids wear.

[TurtleTitan97]

Spider-Man!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

https://twitter.com/CaptainAmerica/status/707974312938967040

[Darthknuxward]

Woooohoooo!!!!!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh man. OH MAN.

I don't even like Spiderman and that was awesome. :tgrin: :tcool:

HURRY UP, MAY!

[ZariusTwo]

The reason why you won't see Spider-Man in the trailers: Sony won't allow Marvel to advertise him

http://epicstream.com/news/The-Insane-Reason-Why-Spider-Man-Was-Banned-in-Captain-America-Civil-War-Trailers

Well...:lol:

dKrVegVI0Us

[Foombamaroom]

Spider-Man looks like he was ripped straight from the comics.

I LOVE IT.

[Candy Kappa]

ASM2 costume looked better, but it's pretty cool looking. but, for some reason it makes me think of Toe's live-action Spider-Man... Considering it seems like he's starts out as Tony's intern, maybe some Leopardon action :P

[Shark_Blade]

Omgosh Spiderman?? :o But he sounds so young.

That spider suit design looks so cheap and awful tho.. I can only wish that's Andrew Garfield underneath, but.. *sigh* oh well.

[plastroncafe]

Underoos!
HA!

Yeah, my day's officially made.
Though, my heart goes out to the Cap fanboys/fangirls should this movie not live up to the hype in their respective heads.

[Spike Spiegel]

Spider-Man looks like he was ripped straight from the comics.

I LOVE IT.

His eyes are so expressive.

I wonder if Stark makes his costume.

[plastroncafe]

I wanna know if they're using the same technology they used on Deadpool.

[ZariusTwo]

I wanna know if they're using the same technology they used on Deadpool.

You're aware Deadpool was FOX right?

Omgosh Spiderman?? :o But he sounds so young.

That's because Sony/Marvel have rebooted him back to being a teenager, y'know, like he was in the Lee/Ditko era.

[Cure]

I believe she means CGI technology.

[plastroncafe]

I believe she means CGI technology.

You would be correct.
But just so I'm doubly clear: Yes. I am aware that Deadpool is Fox.

[Vicky82]

Awesome I can't wait.

When the trailer nearly ended, I thought to myself "where's Spiderman" then he appeared :lol:

[Candy Kappa]

You're aware Deadpool was FOX right?

I doubt Fox have a exclusive rights on animated mask eyes.