Jurassic World

[TigerClaw]

With Jurassic World, The 4th Jurassic Park movie to come out on June 12 2015, They have officially released the 1st Teaser Poster, Check it out.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=109282

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz8qhiYCYAEHhDL.jpg

[TheCanadiandrome]

Looks so awesome

[sdp]

I've been pretty hyped for this movie since it was first announced back in 2002 I think. I've been following this movie for quite a while and like the direction for the most part.

[Peanut]

What's it about it/who's in it/who's behind it? Etc etc. Hook me up with info, gang. I'm too tired to do it on my own.

[Cure]

Fully functional park is open with daily visitors, bad things happen/Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard/bunch of nobodies.

[CyberCubed]

Why are people excited for this when the last two movies were lousy? Only the first Jurassic Park was any good before it got affected by sequel cash-ins.

[sdp]

The movie is set 20+ years after the original movie, it seems that it will ignore the sequels and yeah the park has been open for a few years now. The movie is set in Isla Nublar where the first movie happened (TLW and JP/// are in Isla Sorna). So yeah the whole part of the Island where the movie events happened seems to be blocked off and they'll be exploring a bit of that based on pictures which is something I always wanted to see as a kid. They'll also have a "genetically enhanced Dinosaur" called a D-Rex, now that sounds stupid but the Director has been saying all the correct words, he really seems to understand the franchise and what's important about it for example the reason there won't be returning main actors is because they don't make sense in a JP sequel which is totally true.

I think the movie is going to be quite entertaining and easily the best sequel but it definitely won't be anywhere near the original. Even so we'll finally have another good dinosaur movie and that's good enough for me since dinosaurs are awesome and they've lacked representation in a long time, hopefully it re-starts a "Dino-Fever" like the original Jurassic Park. I mean the only thing that could ever top the original movie is a reboot that is faithful to the novel.

[Wildcat]

Have been following it since last year. It was off and on for awhile before. Always knew another one would eventually happen.

I'm sure it'll be good if not great. Its been over 10 years since JP3 and its got a fresh cast. The park finally being operational should be cool to see.

D-Rex isn't meant to be a ridiculous monster. Just a bigger, scarier dinosaur. Its not based on a real dinosaur obviously but its more of a creation that scientists went too far with.

As far as we know. It could be a new dinosaur created to bring in more visitors after the novelty wears off. Within the movieverse the park has been open for awhile and people don't take it as serious anymore.

[Refractive Reflections]

I hope the plot has something a little more to it than just "bigger and badder" dinosaurs run loose.

As a few other posters said before, I don't know if any sequel will recapture the magic of the original because it was able to bring the scientific intrigue and repercussions of the vague world (at the time) of genetic engineering while combining it with an action-adventure tone of survival, which made the original movie engaging on many levels.

I remember reading about this project about how it was in development hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park#Jurassic_World_.282015.29) over creating several scripts. The most absurd was DNA splicing of dinosaurs and humans for military purposes, and another was (I'm not too sure about this) a virus that was found to spread from the dinosaurs to humans. So if this movie was finally able to get made after development hell, who knows... could Beverly Hills Cop 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Cop_%28franchise%29#Future) finally show up in the foreseeable future? :lol::lol:

But anyways, we'll see what appears with Jurassic World...

[Wildcat]

No sequel will recapture the same feeling of the original because we know more less what to expect and what the dinos look like. This doesn't mean its a bad thing. As long as its good and entertaining that's all that matters.

Those other supposed storylines were rumors and obviously ignored so we know nobody actually thought those were good ideas. The virus thing might work to a certain point but I don't know.

[turtlefanforever]

Been waiting so long for this. just watched the first 3 in a row the other day. But No Jeff Goldblum or Sam Neil? I don't know about this...

[turtlefanforever]

, who knows... could Beverly Hills Cop 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Cop_%28franchise%29#Future) finally show up in the foreseeable future? :lol::lol:

But anyways, we'll see what appears with Jurassic World...

Beverly hills cop 4 is set to come out 2016

[Refractive Reflections]

Beverly hills cop 4 is set to come out 2016

It's targeted for that date, but there's no info about the production/filming occurring just yet, so it's easier for the film studio to pull the plug if pre-production still doesn't look good to them. And considering it's history, it needs something more substantial than "paperwork and talks" and having film incentives to show the studio is confident in investing in the movie project.

At least with Jurassic World, the filming has already finished on August 2014 and the promotional posters are already being released (as shown above), so the studio will be less likely to pull the plug on the project after going to this extent now (having to build several set scenes, pay the actors, and other production costs for filming).

[Sumac]

Director has been saying all the correct words, he really seems to understand the franchise and what's important about it for example the reason there won't be returning main actors is because they don't make sense in a JP sequel which is totally true.
They all look like they understand what's important...than you end up with Terminator: Salvation or worse.

Those other supposed storylines were rumors
Nope.
At least idea about human-dinosaurus hybrid went to the stage, when concept art and some 3D models were produced.

[Leofan26]

Newbie actors, newbie staff oh yah this spells disaster written all over.
I'm not getting my hopes up high for this one, I think they should have ended the fourth one with the entire team from the first film reuniting minus the guy in charge for clear reasons, guy died about a year ago right? Working against this new park.

Than if they ever decided to make a fifth film they could have done this, let the old cast go out with a bang.

[sdp]

Been waiting so long for this. just watched the first 3 in a row the other day. But No Jeff Goldblum or Sam Neil? I don't know about this...
Now while I'd love to see them again and I'm bummed they aren't in the movie you can't hold this against the movie. It made little sense for Dr. Malcolm or Dr. Grant to come back to the island in their respected sequels. Story wise it just doesn't make sense for someone to have survived a situation (twice!) to go back into it. The fact that they aren't there because it makes no sense and that the director acknowledges bringing back characters without a reason is a good sign.


They all look like they understand what's important...than you end up with Terminator: Salvation or worse.
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Well I didn't follow Terminator: Salvation, I'm not saying the movie won't be bad, we can't know until we see the movie, even the trailers can be deceiving. But at least we know its a director that cares about the franchises history and has said the correct things in all the interviews. Its not the mess that the pre-production of JP/// was or the new TMNT movie.

Newbie actors, newbie staff oh yah this spells disaster written all over.
I'm not getting my hopes up high for this one, I think they should have ended the fourth one with the entire team from the first film reuniting minus the guy in charge for clear reasons, guy died about a year ago right? Working against this new park.

Than if they ever decided to make a fifth film they could have done this, let the old cast go out with a bang.
The cast of the original was mostly "newbie" actors, not to mention Chris Pratt is pretty damn famous now. The director might not have a lot under his belt but he has good movies under it. This is Universals highest grossing movie/franchise so they don't want to **** it up, that's the reason JPIV was in development hell for so long, they were waiting until they had the right formula.

A fourth one reuniting all the team of the first film makes no sense story wise and would've been a terrible film, and no he just died about a month ago.

[turtlefanforever]

Now while I'd love to see them again and I'm bummed they aren't in the movie you can't hold this against the movie. It made little sense for Dr. Malcolm or Dr. Grant to come back to the island in their respected sequels. Story wise it just doesn't make sense for someone to have survived a situation (twice!) to go back into it. The fact that they aren't there because it makes no sense and that the director acknowledges bringing back characters without a reason is a good sign.


The cast of the original was mostly "newbie" actors, not to mention Chris Pratt is pretty damn famous now. The director might not have a lot under his belt but he has good movies under it. This is Universals highest grossing movie/franchise so they don't want to **** it up, that's the reason JPIV was in development hell for so long, they were waiting until they had the right formula.

A fourth one reuniting all the team of the first film makes no sense story wise and would've been a terrible film, and no he just died about a month ago.

this movie has dumpster fire written all over it. and even if it didn't make sense for either of them to be there they could still be through way of supporting characters. Kelly Malcom (Dr. Malcoms daughter) Could be working there. Same with Billy Brennan and Eric Kirby.

[Sumac]

Well I didn't follow Terminator: Salvation, I'm not saying the movie won't be bad, we can't know until we see the movie, even the trailers can be deceiving. But at least we know its a director that cares about the franchises history and has said the correct things in all the interviews. Its not the mess that the pre-production of JP/// was or the new TMNT movie.
That's how it always goes. All this words of assurance are only to pacify public. Even if movie obviously shapes to be a disaster, they still will try to convince everyone, that everything is fine.
I am not saying it's the case with JW, but I don't think words of director is 100% guarantee, that it will be a good picture.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Well, if for nothing else, the movie should be fun, especially with Chris Pratt in the lead. Can't be much worse than Jurassic Park III.

[Metalwolf]

The movie is set 20+ years after the original movie, it seems that it will ignore the sequels and yeah the park has been open for a few years now. So pretty much canon-wise, the 2nd and 3rd movie never happened?

[TigerClaw]

So pretty much canon-wise, the 2nd and 3rd movie never happened?
I think the 2nd and 3rd happened, you have to take into account that many years has passed, And the 2nd and 3rd film took place on a different island.

[FlawedCoil82]

I just really hope that Triceratops will finally get some respect this time. The first time he was sick, the second time he had all of 5 seconds of screen time and third time he was only mentioned.

[ProactiveMan]

So pretty much canon-wise, the 2nd and 3rd movie never happened?

I don't think they need to discount 2 and 3 for that plot to make sense. It could easily be just another case of industrial hubris, where some company, or billionaire builds another dinosaur park, despite it being a bad idea.

[pennydreadful]

I'm hopeful that it won't be a stinker, even though I thought both the sequels totally failed to capture what made the original so great. I'm pretty basic - I couldn't care less who's in it, I just want the raptors to show up and scare the crap out of me like they did in the original. To me, they're by far the coolest dinosaur.

I haven't really been following the news on it too much - it looks like they're sticking with the more mottled greenish color skin tones for the raptors? I kind of preferred the more grey/brown look that they had in the original film, but I'll wait and see what they pull out of their hat.

[TigerClaw]

And I liked the 2nd and 3rd one, I liked the 2nd one the Most cause of that San Diego scene at the end, It was a fun scene.

[sdp]

So pretty much canon-wise, the 2nd and 3rd movie never happened?
I think the 2nd and 3rd happened, you have to take into account that many years has passed, And the 2nd and 3rd film took place on a different island.
I don't think they need to discount 2 and 3 for that plot to make sense. It could easily be just another case of industrial hubris, where some company, or billionaire builds another dinosaur park, despite it being a bad idea.

As disappointing as the sequels are they aren't terrible so I also don't want them to be ignored. The director has avoided the question and the only official statement that we have is that this is a "sequel set 22 years after the original movie". So it is pretty ambiguous whether the sequels are in continuity or not. But the premise of the movie basically makes it near impossible for the sequels to take place since the premise is that people are getting tired of the park. If we take the sequels into account that leaves less than ten years that the park has been opened and the basic plot doesn't make sense but if the sequels didn't happen then it makes the plot plausible. Also a single line of "the park has been operating for X years" in the movie would decanonize the sequels immediately.

I personally think for this reason they're leaving it ambiguous not to dissimilar than TMNT (2007) and other "soft" reboots. depending on how the movie does they can always explolre Isla Sorna for the "first" time in this new continuity or canonize them..They just don't want to be restricted storywise by the sequels which they didn't really do much storywise anyway and just convoluted things a bit.


this movie has dumpster fire written all over it. and even if it didn't make sense for either of them to be there they could still be through way of supporting characters. Kelly Malcom (Dr. Malcoms daughter) Could be working there. Same with Billy Brennan and Eric Kirby.
This movie is trash because returning characters that make no sense in returning aren't coming back? ok.

That's how it always goes. All this words of assurance are only to pacify public. Even if movie obviously shapes to be a disaster, they still will try to convince everyone, that everything is fine.
I am not saying it's the case with JW, but I don't think words of director is 100% guarantee, that it will be a good picture.
Of course not and I mention that in my post, but its way more likely that it won't be bad because of the Director being so involved with the franchise and understanding it.

[Davetello]

They've discovered that the velociraptor was far smaller than they thought in 1992, and was also covered in feathers. They might have to change the name of the 'raptor' in the new film, because there was a dinosaur similar to how it was depicted in the original film, but I can't remember its proper name.

[Machias Banshee]

Human Dinosaur hybrids, huh? This is the first I heard of it.

.... or is it? ;)

I remember around the time the first movie came out, they had discovered Utahraptor, which was closer to the dimensions of the movie raptors' designs.

Though I must admit, the raptors from the third movie were pretty amazing... :tlove:

I can't wait to see this. I only recently heard that they were actually in the productive process of actual dinosaurs and sets, so I've been looking around for stuff like crazy. But youtube is full of either fan predictions or fake trailers. :ohwell:

[sdp]

Yeah the Utahraptor was discovered before the first JP movie came out so it doesn't even make sense they'd change the name now. As far as feathers its controversial and I'm not happy but they decided to go with no feathers. The new trailer comes out in November so its not a long wait anymore, it'll only be a teaser so don't expect much. And yeah the human hybrid stuff was something that was in pre-production for a while but never got anywhere as did dozens of other pitches in the ten years of development hell between JP/// and JW actually began production.

[Darth Knuckles]

They've discovered that the velociraptor was far smaller than they thought in 1992, and was also covered in feathers. They might have to change the name of the 'raptor' in the new film, because there was a dinosaur similar to how it was depicted in the original film, but I can't remember its proper name.

Yeah I think you're thinking of a Deinonychus or maybe even a Dromaeosaurus as what the Velociraptors in the original Jurassic Park looked like. They are a taller form of the Velociraptor and have a broader thicker head than do Velociraptors. I just thought that they went with Velociraptor for Jurassic Park because they figured more people could pronounce Velociraptor than how to say Deinonychus.

[Davetello]

Yeah I think you're thinking of a Deinonychus or maybe even a Dromaeosaurus as what the Velociraptors in the original Jurassic Park looked like. They are a taller form of the Velociraptor and have a broader thicker head than do Velociraptors. I just thought that they went with Velociraptor for Jurassic Park because they figured more people could pronounce Velociraptor than how to say Deinonychus.

Deinonychus. That's the name - thanks pal.

[Sumac]

So pretty much canon-wise, the 2nd and 3rd movie never happened?
Why?
Both movies are pretty much things of their own. There is no reason to drop them from timeline.

[Darth Knuckles]

Deinonychus. That's the name - thanks pal.

No problemo dude!

[TheCanadiandrome]

And I liked the 2nd and 3rd one, I liked the 2nd one the Most cause of that San Diego scene at the end, It was a fun scene.

i myself also loved all of the Jurassic Park movies as well

[sdp]

www.masraniglobal.com/main.html

Viral site for Jurassic World from the company that owns JW and JurassicWorld.com is also live as a "real" website for the park. (jurassicworldmovie.com is the website for the movie). The sites basically reveal the timeline and fit not only the sequels nicely but also incorporate the Telltale game with some references to it. The park has been operating for 10 years (at the time the movie comes out) without problems and they hint that they have something special planned for the 10th anniversary. Dr. Henry Wu will be back from the first movie.

Trailer comes out in Thankgiving.

[TheCanadiandrome]

that's awesome

[Leo656]

I only finally saw all three just recently and while the second and third weren't "bad" (just badly-written and thought-out), there are huge flaws with the JP story being turned into a franchise. Basically, based on the events of the first movie (and the ending of the second), you can't continue the story. Firstly, the entire idea behind breeding dinosaurs for a theme park has been proven beyond disastrous, so nobody should ever be in a hurry to replicate the "success" of the original scientists. And secondly, didn't the second one feature a dinosaur trashing large parts of San Francisco? HOW would anyone ever get the funding and the "A-OK" from the government - ANY government! - to not only continue producing dinosaurs, but to actually open up a fully-functional theme park FULL of them, as in this new movie? There's suspension of disbelief, and then there's "Everyone Is An Idiot". And the story of Jurassic Park ONLY continues past One movie if Everyone Is An Idiot. Everyone in the WORLD has to be a giant idiot if there's a fully-functioning theme park full of dinosaurs and nobody in the movie's universe thinks it can go wrong, to the point they actually build the park and it runs successfully for TEN YEARS. That's just bad storytelling. And it comes from the problem of Making Money; the first movie was a parable about Not Playing God, and it did it effectively; the second and third movies were about, "Dinosaurs Are Neat, And Also, Look What We Can Do With SFX You Guys!"

Since my wife is a huge fan we'll inevitably see it, but I didn't really like the last two and I just don't see how you can continue the story WITHOUT having to ignore anything based in reason or logic entirely. But I'm sure it will look great, which seems to be as high as they're aiming anyways.

[pennydreadful]

The second one would've been fine if they'd just followed the book more closely, IMO. In the book, Dodgson from the first movie came back and was the main villain. Spielberg clipped most of the major action scenes from the novel but changed large portions of the rest of the content. That entire San Francisco tangent was pure Spielberg. As was the whole father/daughter thing with Malcolm and Kelly. And the infamous death-by-acrobatics scene.

The novel had a very interesting sub-plot where it explored the ramifications of the dinosaurs (in particular, the raptors) not having had adults to learn normal social behaviors from, comparing their intra-aggressive behavior to the learned (and cooperative) behavior of pack-hunting African super-predators.

[sdp]

My opinions of the sequels:

TLW:JP - Ambitious movie that doesn't deliver, it has a great premise but it can't live up to it so it fails. The movie has some great moments which are ruined by small things like the acrobatics raptor scene and the T-Rex in San Diego. Still I like the movie it just fails to capitalize on all the great stuff it has.

JP/// - Not ambitious at all, its a basic premise but unlike TLW it delivers what it set out to do so while not moving the story forward a lot it at least does the things it tries right. I don't particularly like the ending/last 5 minutes of the film though.

Both sequels have flaws but I can overlook them, of course they don't live up to the original but its hard because the original tells a story and completes it, the sequels can only do so much but I still enjoy more stories from that universe even if none will ever be as good as the one that sets the whole thing up. So yeah I like the sequels but to a regular fan I'd only recommend the first one as a must see movie and only the sequels if they want to see more dinosaurs. I think Jurassic World will actually be a better movie than TLW and /// but it also won't be as good as the original it just can't be topped (unless we had a reboot based only on the book) we'll see next year.

I only finally saw all three just recently and while the second and third weren't "bad" (just badly-written and thought-out), there are huge flaws with the JP story being turned into a franchise. Basically, based on the events of the first movie (and the ending of the second), you can't continue the story.
I disagree, you have an island full of dinosaurs there's plenty of stories you can tell. Sure none of those stories can outdo the original story which sets the premise of dinosaurs on the island but you can still have fun Dinosaur stories.

Firstly, the entire idea behind breeding dinosaurs for a theme park has been proven beyond disastrous, so nobody should ever be in a hurry to replicate the "success" of the original scientists. And secondly, didn't the second one feature a dinosaur trashing large parts of San Francisco? HOW would anyone ever get the funding and the "A-OK" from the government - ANY government! - to not only continue producing dinosaurs, but to actually open up a fully-functional theme park FULL of them, as in this new movie? There's suspension of disbelief, and then there's "Everyone Is An Idiot". And the story of Jurassic Park ONLY continues past One movie if Everyone Is An Idiot. Everyone in the WORLD has to be a giant idiot if there's a fully-functioning theme park full of dinosaurs and nobody in the movie's universe thinks it can go wrong, to the point they actually build the park and it runs successfully for TEN YEARS. That's just bad storytelling. And it comes from the problem of Making Money; the first movie was a parable about Not Playing God, and it did it effectively; the second and third movies were about, "Dinosaurs Are Neat, And Also, Look What We Can Do With SFX You Guys!"
I disagree, you're talking about some of the most impressive animals to ever live on this earth being brought back from extinction, do you think that any disaster would stop companies trying to profit from continuing the project? Or the average person would no longer want these creatures to be seen? Of course they want to see them they'd just take more precautions. I can only agree that the sequels don't tell anything new move the story forward or send a better message but there's still fun stories to tell on an island full of dinosaurs.

The second one would've been fine if they'd just followed the book more closely, IMO. In the book, Dodgson from the first movie came back and was the main villain. Spielberg clipped most of the major action scenes from the novel but changed large portions of the rest of the content. That entire San Francisco tangent was pure Spielberg. As was the whole father/daughter thing with Malcolm and Kelly. And the infamous death-by-acrobatics scene.

The novel had a very interesting sub-plot where it explored the ramifications of the dinosaurs (in particular, the raptors) not having had adults to learn normal social behaviors from, comparing their intra-aggressive behavior to the learned (and cooperative) behavior of pack-hunting African super-predators.

I have mixed opinions about this, on one hand you are right all the bad things about TLW are the things Spielberg changed from the book. However I don't know if I can say it was the wrong move, if you think about it Spielberg also changed many things about the original book in the first film, only difference is the changes he made in the first movie were indeed better. Hammond's character and the ending and even the gate are so iconic and we have Spielberg to thank for the iconic look and characterization which he changed from the book. So while Spielberg changes gave us a shittier TLW, it also gave us a more awe-inducing moments in the first film. So Spielberg doing changing things can be good or bad and I'm ok with him doing it even if he ruins some movies if it can give us awesome depictions in others.

[Sumac]

The movie has some great moments which are ruined by small things like the acrobatics raptor scene and the T-Rex in San Diego.
It was the best scene in the otherwise boring movie.

[sdp]

Here is the teaser:



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Great teaser with all the iconic moments from the first film, full trailer this Thursday.

[Leo656]

Honestly, no, if we're applying any kind of real-world logic to this, I think after the San Francisco disaster, nobody could ever get the project off the ground. The legal liability alone would be far too great. They'd be impossible to insure, for one thing. No insurance company on EARTH would back them. "So... are you SURE that there is ZERO chance of another T-Rex getting loose and chewing apart another major city?" :lol: Absolutely impossible. They kind of ruined all future movies just with that one scene. It makes everything BUT "Godzilla, Times A Thousand" a completely implausible scenario, or at least anti-climactic.

Plus, there's those flying dinosaurs. I STILL think that's the biggest lingering plot thread. You have unregistered dinosaurs just flying the f*** around! "Rodan" has already taught us that even one of 'em is a huge problem, and now they're out in the wild, unchecked. And they have been for ten years by the time of this new flick. How is the entire planet not just a big pteranodon nest by now?

These are some things they ought to address. Instead, it kinda looks like they just want to do the first movie over, but Bigger.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Honestly, no, if we're applying any kind of real-world logic to this, I think after the San Francisco disaster, nobody could ever get the project off the ground. The legal liability alone would be far too great. They'd be impossible to insure, for one thing. No insurance company on EARTH would back them. "So... are you SURE that there is ZERO chance of another T-Rex getting loose and chewing apart another major city?" :lol: Absolutely impossible. They kind of ruined all future movies just with that one scene. It makes everything BUT "Godzilla, Times A Thousand" a completely implausible scenario, or at least anti-climactic.

Plus, there's those flying dinosaurs. I STILL think that's the biggest lingering plot thread. You have unregistered dinosaurs just flying the f*** around! "Rodan" has already taught us that even one of 'em is a huge problem, and now they're out in the wild, unchecked. And they have been for ten years by the time of this new flick. How is the entire planet not just a big pteranodon nest by now?

These are some things they ought to address. Instead, it kinda looks like they just want to do the first movie over, but Bigger.

May I remind you that the full trailer hasn't come out yet? I'm Sure they'll explain it there.

[TigerClaw]

Honestly, no, if we're applying any kind of real-world logic to this, I think after the San Francisco disaster, nobody could ever get the project off the ground. The legal liability alone would be far too great. They'd be impossible to insure, for one thing. No insurance company on EARTH would back them. "So... are you SURE that there is ZERO chance of another T-Rex getting loose and chewing apart another major city?" :lol: Absolutely impossible. They kind of ruined all future movies just with that one scene. It makes everything BUT "Godzilla, Times A Thousand" a completely implausible scenario, or at least anti-climactic.

Plus, there's those flying dinosaurs. I STILL think that's the biggest lingering plot thread. You have unregistered dinosaurs just flying the f*** around! "Rodan" has already taught us that even one of 'em is a huge problem, and now they're out in the wild, unchecked. And they have been for ten years by the time of this new flick. How is the entire planet not just a big pteranodon nest by now?

These are some things they ought to address. Instead, it kinda looks like they just want to do the first movie over, but Bigger.
I'm not a fan of bringing RL logic into movies, That just ruins the experience. There will be kids this generation, That will see Jurassic World for the first time and may want to watch the previous films.

You gotta let your imagination run wild and have fun. Its the reason why I go to the movies, To get away from RL.

That San Diego scene was my favorite scene on all the JP films, It really brought the imagination of a Dinosaur running amok in the City.

[Leo656]

I've seen ya. I'm aware you're not a huge fan of logic and movies occupying the same space at the same time.

You got yours an' I got mine, an' together we be fine, brother. :tcool:

And I'unno if ya heard, but kids are literally incomplete people. Like, they're not even done baking, yet, and are incapable of any rational thought. I'm in no way obligated to care what they think. I don't ask my cat for advice on what makes good TV, I don't judge movies based on what kids like. :lol:

[Wildcat]

Ooh that hyped me even more. Love that orb ride thing.

The flying dinosaurs in JP3 is something I see brought up alot. I honestly think people are over thinking that.

First it was only a few following them in the air. They most likely didn't even follow them all the way back. Also I don't know far it is or remember if it was mentioned but I doubt a huge flock of those things would even bother to keep flying so far out and all over the world. Their habitat are those islands and have the ocean all around for food.

Its possible one or two would stray which they might explain in the new one. Also comparing a Pteranodon to Rodan is pretty ridiculous. That's comparing Godzilla to Trex.

Of course in real life a new park, if there was ever a first one, most likely would not be allowed to happen after all the circumstances but for the sake of the movie its at least plausible that that someone would work around the legal system and reopen it. They cloned dinosaurs... the whole world is not going to nod in agreement and forget about it.

[TigerClaw]

Dont think anyone posted this, But here's some plot details about the movie.

This film picks up twenty-two years after Jurassic Park. When Derek [Connolly] and I sat down to find the movie, we looked at the past two decades and talked about what we’ve seen. Two things came to the surface.

One was that money has been the gasoline in the engine of our biggest mistakes. If there are billions to be made, no one can resist them, even if they know things could end horribly.

The other was that our relationship with technology has become so woven into our daily lives, we’ve become numb to the scientific miracles around us. We take so much for granted.

[TigerClaw]

Leaked footage from the Trailer, But it looks kind of unfinished.

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[AT-Man]

I hope it's not because of just another greedy fat f*ck that things start going downhill.

[Andrew NDB]

Seems both uninspired and uninspiring. And it's all going to come down to a genetically altered Z-Rex or something? With none of the cast from the originals, not even the kids? I dunno...

[TigerClaw]

Seems both uninspired and uninspiring. And it's all going to come down to a genetically altered Z-Rex or something? With none of the cast from the originals, not even the kids? I dunno...
Actually BD Wong is the only cast member from the original.

[Leo656]

Actually, not having any of the original cast involved is one of the things that does make sense. Bottom line, nobody who had been through that situation would ever go through it again, and that's why the sequels didn't work (aside from constantly rehashing moments from the first one... "Oh, look, someone's elbows-deep in dino dung. AGAIN." :roll:). To me, seeing Goldblum and whatsisname come back in II and III was pretty contrived.

Ariana Richards grew up pretty nice, though. She can come back.

[TigerClaw]

Actually, not having any of the original cast involved is one of the things that does make sense. Bottom line, nobody who had been through that situation would ever go through it again, and that's why the sequels didn't work (aside from constantly rehashing moments from the first one... "Oh, look, someone's elbows-deep in dino dung. AGAIN." :roll:). To me, seeing Goldblum and whatsisname come back in II and III was pretty contrived.

Ariana Richards grew up pretty nice, though. She can come back.
For this sequel, From what I read, another company bought iGen and decided to create the Park because it would make them billions of dollars. The Park becomes a success and they had years without any problems.

The movie will pick up with the Park not getting any more visitors, Cause people have gotten bored of the exhibits and such, So the scientists decided to create a new Dinosaur by modifying the DNA, And that's when things go wrong, They have a new Dinosaur called the D-Rex

Concept Art of the D-Rex

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/jurassic-world-d-rex-concept-art-small.jpg

These are leaked images of the D-Rex Toys.

http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/jurassicworldMAIN1.jpg?635524529366903677

http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/jurassic12.jpg

[TheCanadiandrome]

that new Dino looks cool

[pennydreadful]

The movie will pick up with the Park not getting any more visitors, Cause people have gotten bored of the exhibits and such, So the scientists decided to create a new Dinosaur by modifying the DNA, And that's when things go wrong, They have a new Dinosaur called the D-Rex


Which, right there, is crazy - because how could anybody possibly get bored by dinosaurs? :teek: People are fascinated by them, and they've been dead for millions of years. People line up in droves to look at their bones. If we lived in a world where I could see real-life dinosaurs, I'd go there every Tuesday and twice on Sundays!

I can't lie though, I'm interested in seeing what this movie has to offer. I'm curious to know what they've modified the D-Rex to do in order to bring visitors in... I'm guessing something silly like "make it more vicious" or something? To appease the people who got bored waiting for T-Rex to come out and eat the goat during daytime?

I really hope the raptors get a good chunk of the action though. It'd be nice if the Dilophosaurus got a minute or two as well; I always thought they were pretty nifty and they never got mentioned again after the first movie. Spielberg added in the frill and venom ideas to his depiction of the creature so it could've been an interesting way to include some of the progressively "selective" gene splices that InGen had done on the dinosaurs in order to mix and match traits.

[The Stryker]

The thing is named Diabolus?

Did they WANT it to cause problems?

[TigerClaw]

The thing is named Diabolus?

Did they WANT it to cause problems?
Its a new Dinosaur that has genes of a cuttlefish, a snake, a velociraptor and a T-Rex.

[Sumac]

Honestly, no, if we're applying any kind of real-world logic to this, I think after the San Francisco disaster, nobody could ever get the project off the ground.
By that so called "real logic" nobody should have invetsed into building cruise liners after Titanic, but...

Besides, it was obvious, that as long as dinosaurus are alive at Nublar, somebody will try to find a way to profit from it somehow.

As for modified T-Rex, this stuff looks stupid. Controlling "normal" T-Rexes must be pain in the ass, and they create something even more dangerous and vicious...

[TigerClaw]

The Jurassic World trailer has been released early.

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[Leo656]

By that so called "real logic" nobody should have invetsed into building cruise liners after Titanic, but...

Besides, it was obvious, that as long as dinosaurus are alive at Nublar, somebody will try to find a way to profit from it somehow.


Um... you're really gonna compare a sinking boat to a major city being attacked by a dinosaur? Really?

Because one of those things happens all the time and is more or less considered "normal", if tragic... the other thing - that being the city of San Francisco being attacked by a goddamn dinosaur - never happens, and if it happened ONCE, it would be considered Too Many Times. If anything, the U.S. government would have ordered the entire island bombed to smithereens, just to make SURE it never happened again.

No offense, but even Reed Richards would have to stretch a little farther than normal to connect those two dots the way you tried to. I mean, I get that you're trying to justify JP existing as more than just One Movie - doesn't work, but I get why people try - but that particular attempt was pretty shallow.

[Sumac]

CGI aside it looks promising. I bit like The Lost World. But I hope it won't be a borefest like TLW.

Because one of those things happens all the time and is more or less considered "normal", if tragic... the other thing - that being the city of San Francisco being attacked by a goddamn dinosaur - never happens, and if it happened ONCE, it would be considered Too Many Times.
One single failure is not a reason to shut down the whole project.
Yes, my example was a bit far-fetched, but I think its still should be clear: one failure doesn't equal a complete disaster.

I mean, I get that you're trying to justify JP existing as more than just One Movie - doesn't work, but I get why people try - but that particular attempt was pretty shallow.
We can agree to disagree.
As evident from the past we ran on quite different types of logic and neither of our opinions is the ultimate truth.

[sdp]

I'm hella excited for this movie, looks awesome. Now I do have some gripes, the trailer isn't very interesting I don't think its doing the plot justice, the CG doesn't look great but I expect it to get better by the time its released. Chris Pratt's character did not convince me in the trailer but he could still be good. All those things are minor and could be the total opposite once the movie comes out, I only have one main concern:

Chris Pratt with the raptors on a Motorcycle, that's a terrible scene and could easily be a deal breaker in this movie depending on how its handled.

[plastroncafe]

I do so love the new trend of using a cover of well known songs in movie trailers. So simple, and yet so effective.

Yeah, I'm all over this movie when it comes out.
Though I will say that I kind of wish the dinos in the movie were more in keeping with how paleontologists believe they appeared: ie, with feathers.

[Powder]

I very rarely go to the movies, but this one might convince me to. Looks pretty solid.

[snake]

I'm pretty excited. I just hope that if any kids play a major role in the movie, they're tolerable.

[ObiWanFan4life]

This movie looks pretty solid, and it's great to see the park in full detail. Although I am a bit disappointed that they're using the same story as the original with with scientists trying to play God.

[Wildcat]

That was freaking awesome. I've been waiting for a new JP to be made all these years and that trailer just made me even more excited.

A fully functional park looks so cool. I always thought they'd need to do something to get it off islands but this along with the plot is a great direction.

I've read this is supposed to be the start of a new trilogy. I hope that's true. Well there will always be the possibility of more JP movies due it's popularity but this is so much better than a straight reboot/remake.

[pennydreadful]

I can't lie, I was a little underwhelmed but I guess I'd built it up to be a bit more in my head and obviously I'll still be seeing it. Wish there were more raptor action in the trailers though, and I really hope the D-rex doesn't disappoint (we all know how throwing 'new' dinosaurs into the script has worked in the past, so this better not be another Spinosaurus).

I also would've really liked to have seen some feathers on the dinosaurs... the original JP was a huge breakthrough in terms of creature FX because they were the most life-like we'd seen yet. I would've liked to have seen them continue to try to keep their creatures as true-to-life as possible instead of just opting for the easy route.

The raptors at least should have feathers - they did put some quills on them in the third one; I think a little plumage down the spine and maybe some really fine, subtle feathers over the legs at least would've been cool.

On the other hand (and I suppose this'll be interesting if it ever gets brought up in the movie, though it probably won't), given the scientific community used to think dinosaurs were totally naked, maybe if the people behind the park had gotten feathered dinos tumbling out of the eggs, they would've thought it was a genetic abnormality and would've specifically gone back to the drawing board to produce featherless dinosaurs for the public. I guess their main interest really is creating biological attractions for the public, so you could argue that they'd have a reason to not correctly manufacture the dinosaurs' DNA so that they'd look the way they did 65 million years ago -- namely, a lot of people prefer the idea of naked dinosaurs rather than feathered ones.

Still, it would've been really awesome to see, if done properly.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I guess their main interest really is creating biological attractions for the public, so you could argue that they'd have a reason to not correctly manufacture the dinosaurs' DNA so that they'd look the way they did 65 million years ago -- namely, a lot of people prefer the idea of naked dinosaurs rather than feathered ones.

That's actually an issue in the original Jurassic Park book. The dinosaurs move quickly and quietly, shocking the group of tourists (Lex, the other kid, Malcolm, etc.) Dr. Wu tell Hammond that they should consider breeding dinosaurs that are less realistic and more like people imagine them - big, noisy, and loud.

[pennydreadful]

Good point; it's been so long since I've read that one, I'd forgotten that part! Well done, sir. 8) Having a couple of lines devoted to that particular topic would be a nice touch, I think.

I suppose they'd worry about feathers making the dinosaurs look too "cute"... particularly with the carnivores.

[snake]

I'll always ignore feathered dinosaurs. I like to imagine they look exactly like they do in JP.

[TigerClaw]

And... There Off!

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[Wildcat]

I too would prefer feathers. At least a few like the JP3 raptors. Small ones down the spine would be good. That would look pretty cool.

That's my only real complaint. It's not proven that they all had feathers, I don't think, but they should acknowledge them a bit.

[plastroncafe]

When the kids in my workshops giggle about how silly dinosaurs would look with feathers I take out this picture to show them:
http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/actual-header.png

That's a bearded vulture. It's feathers aren't naturally red, the bird dyes them that way either with clay or blood. These birds can grow to four feet in height, and have a wingspan of nine feet. They primarily eat bones.

Hands down the most metal of the avian dinosaurs still living.

[Peanut]

What a dumb trailer. I'll see it.

[turtlefanforever]

very underwhelming trailer. Had low expectations, but they've somehow lowered watching that trailer. I guess the only good thing is when you go in with such low expectations you it's hard to be disappointed.
ps Jurassic park marathon on AMC tomorrow

[Leofan26]

Yah, I wasn't impressed with the trailer myself. Maybe as we get more trailers I'll actually want to see the thing. For the time being, meh.

[Vicky82]

The trailer didn't impress me but i'll give it chance and i'll probably go see it.

[B-Man]

I know it's only a teaser, but I get a real 'Jurassic Park III' / 'Jaws III' vibe from it. Urghk.

Please let this be good.

[Candy Kappa]

Feathered Dinos wouod have been really nice, but I guess naked Dinosaurs fits better within the movie's own backstory and continuity.

[TigerClaw]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3aLatcCcAAs2QU.jpg:large

[slashpieturtlemix]

As corny as it looks, I am actually looking forward to this movie. I love me some Jurassic park. I blame the dinosaurs lol

[TigerClaw]

Jurassic World Guardians of the Galaxy Style.

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[snake]

I'm starting to slightly think that TigerClaw is hyped for this.

[Leo656]

HAH!!! Pop.

[TigerClaw]

I'm starting to slightly think that TigerClaw is hyped for this.
If I wasn't, I wouldn't be posting anything about it.

[Leo656]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/52008183.jpg

:tgrin:

[TheCanadiandrome]

OMMFG!!!! I am so stoked! I'm so there opening day! And I guess it'll be time to get some new JP toys!

[slashpieturtlemix]

OMMFG!!!! I am so stoked! I'm so there opening day! And I guess it'll be time to get some new JP toys!

The funny thing is that Hasbro and their infinite wisdom released some JP toys like two-three years ago to build hype. Whats funny about it? They didn't even begin filming for about three months after they were released lol they peg warmed galore

[TheCanadiandrome]

Yeah well I didn't find nothing round these parts :(

[snake]

Those toys are gonna be awesome, well if the dinos don't have 5poa.

[TigerClaw]

Someone did a really good Recut of the Trailer.

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[sdp]

The idea of the trailer is good but I don't think its a very good trailer, it just doesn't match the footage very well. It would've worked better as a teaser trailer released back in SDCC even if it had almost no footage and only some plants or an actual flea circus.

I don't understand why they handled the teaser/trailer so badly. The teaser we got was great but why release a teaser 2 days before the trailer, that was stupid. The teaser we got also would've been great earlier this year. They literally could've had people speaking about JW for months now and instead kept it secret as if they had a strategy and just went and they blew their load all in 3 days only to probably be overshadowed by the Star Wars teaser after those 3 days killing a lot of the potential hype and all of this for just a teaser that probably won't even have much footage.

still, even as much as they f-cked it up it still got plenty of hype, goes to show how the franchise is still relevant.
And... There Off!

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Ugh, its the only scene in the trailer I don't like. Hope in the context of the movie it really works out, I'll definitely give it a chance but not sure.

When the kids in my workshops giggle about how silly dinosaurs would look with feathers I take out this picture to show them:
http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/actual-header.png


I was an anti-feathers guy for most of my life until around 5 years ago or so when more and more cool ass artwork started coming out. Its difficult to change your perception of what you think something is but I now welcome our feather dinosaur buddies. In the past we thought that dinosaurs were slow and reptile like and slowly perception changed ironically because of Jurassic Park. We never see pictures of a tripod T-Rex that we used to before JP. So its sad the new movie won't do that again for a new audience.

Seems both uninspired and uninspiring. And it's all going to come down to a genetically altered Z-Rex or something? With none of the cast from the originals, not even the kids? I dunno...
I couldn't disagree more, the director has proven that he's super excited about it and put a lot of thought into everything, that is the only reason I'm giving the domesticated Raptors a chance.

None of the cast of the originals? Well while I'd' agree that I'd love to see them in the movie, this isn't an action movie with a hero, the stars are the dinosaurs and storywise it doesn't make sense for most of the original actors to come back, especially Sam Neil and Jeff Goldblum who already returned to the park. The kids would only make sense as owners of INgen inherited from their grandfather but even then after their traumatic experience I don't see them repeating their grandfather's mistakes. Dr. Wu is returning and he makes sense.

Now when I first heard about the genetically engineered Dinosaur I was very scared for the movie, but since then we've had an interview with the director and a bunch of leaked plot details that shows that the genetically engineered Dinosaur actually makes sense, he also not what the movie is being focused around (like JP/// and the Spinosaurus was). So my fears are gone at this point at least.

If anything this is the first JP sequel that has as much heart and love put into it as the first one, I'm definitely excited.
The thing is named Diabolus?

Did they WANT it to cause problems?
Well many dinosaurs have similar names officially. Anywho the name has actually been changed to Indominus Rex, slightly better.

Um... you're really gonna compare a sinking boat to a major city being attacked by a dinosaur? Really?
I mean, I get that you're trying to justify JP existing as more than just One Movie - doesn't work, but I get why people try - but that particular attempt was pretty shallow.
Its a universe where we brought Dinosaurs back to flippin' life. Do you really think people are just going to say "no man, lets not see these wonderful creatures that went extinct millions of years ago because of this one incident". It makes no sense, of course the media, people and scientists would be all over it. Your reasons for a sequel not making sense storywise are weak at best.

Now if you really want to say that a sequel is not needed then all you need to say is that as far as storytelling goes no movie should exist beyond JP because even though there's plenty of stories to tell in a JP Universe no story can have the same impact since its a stand alone story and no stories in the universe can match it so there's no point in that regard but to say there's no more stories to tell in the universe that couldn't be less true.

[TigerClaw]

Someone did a recut of the trailer using the song Margaritaville from Jimmy Buffett, Because there's a Margaritaville in Jurassic World.

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[Jester]

Ok...thanks Tiger Claw, but every parody cut of the trailer doesn't need to be posted here....

[TigerClaw]

Ok...thanks Tiger Claw, but every parody cut of the trailer doesn't need to be posted here....
on a Thread about Jurassic World? Which has videos about it? I think we can post parody videos if we find any. :)

[Redeemer]

so was that a megaladon or just some generic big fish dinosaur????
Also the premise is they create a hybrid dinosaur they can't control????

[TigerClaw]

so was that a megaladon or just some generic big fish dinosaur????
Also the premise is they create a hybrid dinosaur they can't control????
It's a Mosasaur
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosasaur
http://www.scified.com/site/jurassicworld/jurassic-world-marine-zone-photo-discovered-revealing-mosasaur-feeding-arena

http://livaudaisnet.com/nature/fossils/muzzy/mosasaur1.jpg

[Leo656]

sdp: Okay, fair enough, I'll put it differently. There are more stories to tell, but only two PLAUSIBLE endgame scenarios. Either 1. The U.S. government nukes the island to bejeezus and back after the SF Incident, OR, 2. Eventually dinosaurs overrun the planet and wipe out humanity. The latter would actually be a movie I'd enjoy seeing.

I guess in real-life I'm more a Dr. Malcolm type. Especially when it comes to artificially extending the life of a movie franchise. Y'know, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should" and all that. :)

[TigerClaw]

The Jurassic World site has opened up, and it looks like a Theme Park Website.
http://www.jurassicworld.com/

[Sumac]

There are more stories to tell, but only two PLAUSIBLE endgame scenarios. Either 1. The U.S. government nukes the island to bejeezus and back after the SF Incident, OR, 2. Eventually dinosaurs overrun the planet and wipe out humanity. The latter would actually be a movie I'd enjoy seeing.
I respectfully disagree. Applying realistic logic to this is situation...awkward to say the least.

[TigerClaw]

Leaked image of D-Rex, And not a Toy this time, But what it actually looks like.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=111677

http://i.imgur.com/vlc7cQL.jpg

[Wildcat]

Cool. I like the spines. Its abilities sound awesome.

[Jester]

So....Mega-Raptor?

It's a Mega-Raptor.

[TigerClaw]

So....Mega-Raptor?

It's a Mega-Raptor.
Its a combination of Genes from a Cuttlefish, Snake, Velocirator and T-Rex.

Basically, its got the Camouflage from a Cuttlefish, Teeth like a Snake, The intelligence of a Raptor and its bigger then a T-Rex.

[Cure]

D-Rex, more like dumb rex.

[Jester]

So....Tiger Claw, how was working on Jurassic World? :P

[BlindFaith]

A bit disappointed by the trailer. They're re-using a lot of the same ideas as the original Jurassic Park. Just with small alterations. It ain't a T-rex its a new dinosaur etc...Watching the trailer I felt like this could just as well be a remake of the original.

[Jester]

Considering it's been 21 years since the first film and 13 since the last....may as well be...but they figure keeping it within the original series might help with nostalgia.

[Wildcat]

Ha, gotta love the internet...

(After watching Jurassic World trailer)
Doesn't look that good, pretty much the same thing. Could have been a remake.

(If it was a remake/reboot)
How dare Hollywood remake Jurassic Park! They're gonna ruin it. Enough reboots.

[sdp]

The original movie is too iconic still for it to get a remake, its not dated yet and still relevant as seen by the re-release last year and it'd just be a huge challenge for Universal to make a movie that was better than the original still so fresh on people's mind, it really is a classic its not like rebooting Friday the 13th or even loved movies like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, this is like remaking the original Star Wars. So yeah it could've been a remake but there was still more to tell in the original movie's timeline, and that's a fully operational Park, this is something I always wanted to see as a kid and now I'm getting it.

As far as a remake/reboot I'm sure it's going to happen? When? Who knows probably years after JW runs its course. If JW bombs then yeah we might see one a decade or so after that one, if JW is a hit we'll see a new "trilogy" and depending how that went it'd continue or stop there depending on the B.O. I personally think we'll get minimum a new trilogy. But after the current version runs its course we'll get a reboot and I'm perfectly fine with that if the reboot is based directly on the book. Spielberg made a fantastic movie that not only rivals but can be argued to be better than the book, but the book is very different and amazing in its own way, it'd make a great movie. Its the only way they could make a new JP movie that can live up to the shadow of Spielbergs classic. I'm really looking forward to that movie when/if it happens.

[The Stryker]

I still can't get over that the thing's name is Diabolus Rex.

That's on some Unobtainium sh*t. You might as well call it the EvilSaurus Rex.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the Superbowl Spot.

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[Machias Banshee]

Well, there's a lil bit of new footage. Chris Pratt's character is a Velociraptor whisperer?

I have a sudden urge to stop and stare at him... :teek:

[TigerClaw]

Well, there's a lil bit of new footage. Chris Pratt's character is a Velociraptor whisperer?

I have a sudden urge to stop and stare at him... :teek:
It shows one of the shots from the 1st trailer, This time you see pterodactyls flying towards the people.

[B-Man]

Get the feeling this really is just gonna be a basic, dumb action movie & a far cry from the Best Picture Oscar-worthy original but I guess anything is a step up from Jurassic Park III.

[Wildcat]

The more I see this the more excited I am for it. I think it's shaping up great.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

By that so called "real logic" nobody should have invetsed into building cruise liners after Titanic, but...

Besides, it was obvious, that as long as dinosaurus are alive at Nublar, somebody will try to find a way to profit from it somehow.

As for modified T-Rex, this stuff looks stupid. Controlling "normal" T-Rexes must be pain in the ass, and they create something even more dangerous and vicious...


Actually, according to the book, there is NOTHING left on Isla Nublar. They nuked it after the survivors got off. Which makes Ian Malcolm's survival in the second book more puzzling than the fact that HE BLED TO DEATH AND THEY LEFT HIM BEHIND!!!


If anything, the U.S. government would have ordered the entire island bombed to smithereens, just to make SURE it never happened again.



Funny enough, that's exactly what they did- in the book, at least. Then for some inexplicable reason, Crichton wrote the sequel- and set it on a second island- Isla Sorna. It was InGen's "dirty little secret".


sdp: Okay, fair enough, I'll put it differently. There are more stories to tell, but only two PLAUSIBLE endgame scenarios. Either 1. The U.S. government nukes the island to bejeezus and back after the SF Incident, OR, 2. Eventually dinosaurs overrun the planet and wipe out humanity. The latter would actually be a movie I'd enjoy seeing.

I guess in real-life I'm more a Dr. Malcolm type. Especially when it comes to artificially extending the life of a movie franchise. Y'know, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should" and all that. :)


You're not far off on both counts. Both scenarios occurred in the books, as A) Isla Nublar was nuked, and B) some dinos got onto the mainland in Panama, I think it was, and started breeding. Leaving us with some wild dinos in Central America! (And slowly migrating outward from there as they hunted for food.)


I respectfully disagree. Applying realistic logic to this is situation...awkward to say the least.


Well, in this case, you'd be wrong. I've read the books AND seen all three movies a few times each, and in this case, Leo's dead-on. Both those things happened. Incidentally, everyone forgets there were TWO islands, one for the park, and one just for "research" on absolutely wild dinos- and both of them went horribly wrong.

[pennydreadful]

Eh... my excitement level is continuing to drop the more I see. I guess we can give up all hope of the raptors going back to being scary, given that Starlord now has a Raptor Army that he can sic on the D-Rex. :roll: What next - raptor races for the park-goers to bet on?

Looks like another "bigger is better" approach to the premise. The first one didn't have to have an enormous bodycount or super-dinos to scare the hell out of people, but I forgot, nobody knows the meaning of the word "subtlety" when it comes to film-making these days. :ohwell: Oh well, guess I just saved myself $$ on a movie ticket.

I'd also hope that the park are specifically cloning sharks to feed to the Mosasaur, otherwise it's not particularly environmentally sustainable to keep pulling endangered shark species from the wild to use as a food source.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Funny, I thought that gif of the raptors being release WAS for a race at first, LOL!

[Leo656]

My wife liked all three of these - the original is one of her favorite movies of all time - but even she's getting more let down the more of this one she sees. :ohwell:

[pennydreadful]

Funny, I thought that gif of the raptors being release WAS for a race at first, LOL!

That's what I mean! They'll probably stick little numbers on 'em... maybe some tiny jockeys for the next one. Yeesh. Way to take the scary right out of the raptors, guys...

[Wildcat]

Looks like another "bigger is better" approach to the premise. The first one didn't have to have an enormous bodycount or super-dinos to scare the hell out of people, but I forgot, nobody knows the meaning of the word "subtlety" when it comes to film-making these days.A 4th movie with a working park open to the public is somehow supposed to be subtle now?

I-Rex/hybrid or not the cynics would find something to complain about. There's still topics on it's Imdb page complaining that it looks too "new" of all things :roll:

The raptor complaints are old. Well to me cause I see them over there pretty often. I think even here it's been discussed already.

[Candy Kappa]

I wanna see Chris Pratt having a hunting party consisting of his Raptor mates chasing down Evil McEvilton Rex' who's gone rogue, while the open park have a meltdown.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Some guys don't like the idea of Christ Pratt having Raptor buddies, but at least they're trying something different. I think that the idea is a little cool.

[Commenter 42]

I've said numerous times that i am a big fan of great CG.

Somehow, in the last few years, CG has grown less and less convincing. This trailer is no different.
And to be honest, the story looks like pure fluff. It has no edge, no gravitas, no wonder. It's lost it's wow factor.
Cheap looking CG in this one, no different than the Cheap CG of John Carter, Maleficent, OZ, and TMNT.
I'm really starting to wonder what the hell has happened. It's a conundrum.

[Sumac]

Well, in this case, you'd be wrong. I've read the books AND seen all three movies a few times each, and in this case, Leo's dead-on. Both those things happened. Incidentally, everyone forgets there were TWO islands, one for the park, and one just for "research" on absolutely wild dinos- and both of them went horribly wrong.
I watched all three movies too, so?
In the end, when great breakthroughs are involved, something is always bound to go wrong in the beginning. It's only a matter of persistence and a patience to weed out all problems. Otherwise, nothing would have been ever accomplished.

[TMNT_Guy]

In the end, when great breakthroughs are involved, something is always bound to go wrong in the beginning. It's only a matter of persistence and a patience to weed out all problems. Otherwise, nothing would have been ever accomplished.
I would like to say that the entire message of the original book, something that the movies mostly glossed over, was that man can not be in control of everything. So having man actually succeed in creating a Jurassic Park...just seems wrong. To me, at least.


HAMMOND: Hiring Nedry was a mistake, that's obvious. We're over dependent on automation, I can see that now. But that's all correctable for the next time around.

ELLIE: John, John. John, you're still building onto that Flea Circus, that illusion. And now you're adding onto it by what you're doing here. That's the illusion.

HAMMOND: When we have control again we-

ELLIE: Control?! You never had control! I was overwhelmed by the power of this place. So I made a mistake too. I didn't have enough respect for that power, and it's out now. You're sitting here trying to pick up the pieces. John, there's nothing worth picking up. The only thing that matters now are the people we love. Alan, Lex, and Tim. And John, they're out there where people are dying.

[sdp]

I'm not a fan of the Raptor buddies but was willing to give it a chance but besides that I was super excited for the movie; I only had one other concern and it was addressed in the trailer:

"We're going after it, everything we've got"

This is what I was afraid of, they're turning the JP franchise into an action movie with a hero, I'll take JP/// any day over this. I hope I'm wrong but that's what the trailer implies. It's supposed to be about survival and not about hunting a dinosaur, that "superhero" hollywood mentality doesn't belong in JP. I'm still hella excited however I'm concerned about this.





Somehow, in the last few years, CG has grown less and less convincing.

Fans have become more and more cynical over the last few years, there's been plenty of internet discussions that I've seen that people call the CGi fake when it's a proven fact that it was a practical effect. Food for thought.

[Candy Kappa]

I think I'm mostly interested to see if the give an explanation on how Chris Pratt's character managed to train the Raptor and apparently be accepted into their pack as their leader. or is it just Pratt's hunk-ness so immense it goes cross species and the Raptors are all glamored by him and wants "Senpai" to notice them?

[sdp]

They'll definitely give an explanation, whether it's believable or not we'll have to wait and see. My problem with the movie is based on the trailer it seems the movie is about Chris Pratt's character going through the park to hunt the I-Rex to "save" the park visitors and overcoming the odds instead of it being about survival and barely making it.

[Candy Kappa]

The Trailer could be misleading though, like the Ninja Turtles trailers (Super Soldier stuff)

Although, if they do have Pratt being the hunter, I hope the tables quickly turn and then the park goes into a meltdown. we could get an emotional scene with Pratt dealing with dead members of his Raptor Possies.

[Commenter 42]

Fans have become more and more cynical over the last few years, there's been plenty of internet discussions that I've seen that people call the CGi fake when it's a proven fact that it was a practical effect. Food for thought.

Meaning what exactly? I was speaking about the last 3-4 years, not comparing the original JP to the latest trailer.

There has been a noticeable shift in the look and feel of CG in the last few years, ever since the demise of Rhythm and Hues. Some companies are turning out incredible work on smaller productions, while big event films seem to have cut costs across the board, resulting in lackluster results.

[Candy Kappa]

The only concern I really have are, if they are going to introduce the humanoid saurian stuff they played with in some old JP4 concept art.

Pratt could be part Raptor...

[TigerClaw]

Check this out, You can noticed the improved CGI in the Superbowl Spot over the 1st Trailer.
http://www.wired.com/2015/02/new-jurassic-world-trailer-hides-improved-cgi-plain-sight/

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/jw-1.gif

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/jw-2.gif

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Chris Pratt as an action hero has me sold on this movie. And I didn't like JP2 or 3. I might actually see this in theaters!

[TheCanadiandrome]

i can't wait to see this

[pennydreadful]

I think I'm mostly interested to see if the give an explanation on how Chris Pratt's character managed to train the Raptor and apparently be accepted into their pack as their leader. or is it just Pratt's hunk-ness so immense it goes cross species and the Raptors are all glamored by him and wants "Senpai" to notice them?

Makes you wonder what else he's trained them to do. Does he send his tame raptors to fetch him a sammich when he gets hungry?

Seriously though - wasn't one of the main criticisms of JP3 the "talking to raptors" schtick? This just seems like a rehash of that.

Unless they've genetically engineered the raptors to be tamer... just seems a real letdown that the dinos which had the people in the first park sh*tting themselves (including Muldoon, who dealt with African super-predators) have now been turned into trained attack dogs.

[Candy Kappa]

Prat is probably Raptor Jesus, hence why they obey him. :P

[Commenter 42]

Check this out, You can noticed the improved CGI in the Superbowl Spot over the 1st Trailer.
http://www.wired.com/2015/02/new-jurassic-world-trailer-hides-improved-cgi-plain-sight/

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/jw-1.gif

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/jw-2.gif

Improved? lol, I read that article too sir. They've made changes. Improved is a subjective term. Still looks cartoonish to my eye.

[Wildcat]

I think the CGI here looks great. I can see some of the complaints with other movies (still I don't think it's always necessarily "fake" looking, some are meant to look fantasy-style).

I think people are just more accustomed to CGI now so they nitpick it away instead of taking in the whole scene.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I watched all three movies too, so?
In the end, when great breakthroughs are involved, something is always bound to go wrong in the beginning. It's only a matter of persistence and a patience to weed out all problems. Otherwise, nothing would have been ever accomplished.

The point is, they were never in control of either situation, as shown by the fact that the dinos were already BREEDING before all Hell even broke loose! Heck, even the raptors were never fully under control- they were starting to find weak spots in the fence even before Nedry's f*ck-up with the power system. They didn't even need that hurricane to send everything spiraling into a steaming pile of $h*t- all they needed was Nedry turning off the power-grid. ONE PERSON. And all the pieces for disaster were already in place LONG before he decided he wasn't getting paid enough.


I would like to say that the entire message of the original book, something that the movies mostly glossed over, was that man can not be in control of everything. So having man actually succeed in creating a Jurassic Park...just seems wrong. To me, at least.

"HAMMOND: Hiring Nedry was a mistake, that's obvious. We're over dependent on automation, I can see that now. But that's all correctable for the next time around.

ELLIE: John, John. John, you're still building onto that Flea Circus, that illusion. And now you're adding onto it by what you're doing here. That's the illusion.

HAMMOND: When we have control again we-

ELLIE: Control?! You never had control! I was overwhelmed by the power of this place. So I made a mistake too. I didn't have enough respect for that power, and it's out now. You're sitting here trying to pick up the pieces. John, there's nothing worth picking up. The only thing that matters now are the people we love. Alan, Lex, and Tim. And John, they're out there where people are dying."



Yup- this. And y'know, that quote from Malcolm that everyone loves to use- "You were so busy asking whether you COULD that you never stopped to ask if you SHOULD." Or something to that effect. It was pure chaos in a bottle, right from the start in all three movies. (And both books, I might add.)

The fact that they were already escaping the islands in the FIRST BOOK tells us it never would have worked. Life finds a way, as Grant said.

[Leo656]

"You were so busy asking whether you COULD that you never stopped to ask if you SHOULD."

"...Even make any sequels to 'Jurassic Park' in the FIRST place."

[pennydreadful]

Thread Raptor is here to approve this comment. ^^

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[Leo656]

"I just popped my head in the tent to make sure you kids ain't f***ing." :lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

"...Even make any sequels to 'Jurassic Park' in the FIRST place."


Other than the second book/movie, you're not wrong, there.


Thread Raptor is here to approve this comment. ^^

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5jc5lxS6m1qhokgr.gif

"I just popped my head in the tent to make sure you kids ain't f***ing." :lol:


LOL, you guys!!

[ProactiveMan]

It's interesting that they seem to have reverted to the JP1 raptor design. I wonder if they'll explain it or not.

[Candy Kappa]

I think it'll just bottle down to "It's iconic". personally I'd prefer more realistic Velociraptors instead of JP's thing of renaming Deinonychus (or Achillobator), something that's been explained in the book iirc, but not in the movies.

[Commenter 42]

I think it'll just bottle down to "It's iconic". personally I'd prefer more realistic Velociraptors instead of JP's thing of renaming Deinonychus (or Achillobator), something that's been explained in the book iirc, but not in the movies.

You want accuracy in your sci-fi? Preposterous!:lol::lol::lol:

But seriously, we'll never get a feathered T-rex in JP, or anything else logical.

[Candy Kappa]

yeah... It's not easy wanting the Dinosaurs to actually look cool, instead of naked things with dull gray skin. they could at least make them a bit more colorful.

Although... I guess large dog sized Dinos covered in colorful feathers aren't as scary in Hollywood and the General Audience's eyes compared to the sneeze-coughing death machine rapors :lol:

[pennydreadful]

"I just popped my head in the tent to make sure you kids ain't f***ing." :lol:

Thread Raptor will enforce your chastity with his lethal toenails.

But yeah, you're not alone, Candy - I really think feathers could have been done without looking silly. Like so (spoilered for size):

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18cfnwxjuat32jpg/original.jpg

Has feathers, looks similar to the original JP Raptor and yet still looks like it can seriously f*ck your sh*t up.

[Candy Kappa]

And it's drawn by Stjepan Sejic, I love that guy!

[Commenter 42]

But yeah, you're not alone, Candy - I really think feathers could have been done without looking silly. Like so (spoilered for size):

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18cfnwxjuat32jpg/original.jpg

Has feathers, looks similar to the original JP Raptor and yet still looks like it can seriously f*ck your sh*t up.

And it's drawn by Stjepan Sejic, I love that guy!

One can only dream right!
Now THAT is good concept art.

[ProactiveMan]

I think it'll just bottle down to "It's iconic". personally I'd prefer more realistic Velociraptors instead of JP's thing of renaming Deinonychus (or Achillobator), something that's been explained in the book iirc, but not in the movies.

I think you're right, but that aside, it's odd because the JP3 raptors had a distinctly different shape to the original ones. They claimed at the time (if memory serves*) that it was to bring the look into line with more recent data, which was a little disingenuous I feel.

*I always think of Iron Chef when I say that.

[Candy Kappa]

it could easily be explained similar as they did in the books. They breed the Dinos to look like "Dinosaurs", or what the general public's idea what a Dinosaur looks like. In JP3 they here free roaming and could breed without human interference.

like... Pugs in the wild, slowly turning back to Wolves, or something :P

[Commenter 42]

it could easily be explained similar as they did in the books. They breed the Dinos to look like "Dinosaurs", or what the general public's idea what a Dinosaur looks like. In JP3 they here free roaming and could breed without human interference.

like... Pugs in the wild, slowly turning back to Wolves, or something :P

:thumbsup: Commenter 42 likes this

[TigerClaw]

New Trailer got released today, Shows a lot more stuff.

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[senpai]

"Bingo! Dino DNA!"

I'm excited for this movie :D It looks pretty good. Needs more Jeff Goldblum though.

[sdp]

I've lost a lot of hype for this movie..I've wanted this movie for over ten years and at first everything that was said about it made me very excited all the way up to the first trailer...but that first trailer left me with some concerns and everything that has been revealed after has cemented them.

To me it feels like the movie is going to be a generic "hero" that goes out to hunt the big "monster". At least it hasn't been done which it's all it has going fo rit but it lacks the awe the first two movies had and say what you want about the third but a straight up survive the island plot made more sense. Here I feel like they want JW to be a little more "superhero-y" and I don't like it. Everything looks very CG in the latest trailers and I still can't get over the Raptors being "trained".

We'll see, hopefully the movie proves me wrong since JP is my favorite movie but I'd be lying if I wasn't a little disappointed.

[mexichrist83]

There is no way this movie will ever compare to the first one. I am looking forward to seeing this but I am approaching this movie with caution. The only thing I'm only really hoping for from this movie is a fun monster movie. That's about it, to be honest. It'd be very hard for the film makers to screw that up. The main thing that intrigues me about this movie is seeing Jurassic Park actually open and operating. Also, trained raptors is definitely one of my issues with this movie.

[Wildcat]

The cynical attitude towards Hollywood and movies nowadays really annoys me. Things don't usually bother me, especially online since its the internet, but I hate the legitimate cynicism.

Complaining for the heck of it is obvious. I never give it a second thought but the serious criticism is sooo cliche. It's literally the same things every time. Too new, cgi, wrong cast, won't be good, cash-in, out of ideas. :roll: I know it's just one side but it's so tired.

There's never been a golden age of filmmaking imo. Every era has its own trends/tropes. Most don't realize that since we were kids and now associate the older stuff as "true filmmaking". Hollywood did not change for the worse at some point in the past 15 years.

I think Jurassic World looks awesome. Imdb is flooded with hate right now. Who cares if it uses a bunch of cgi? If its good looking (I think it is) it does not matter. Practical effects just-because is not a enough reason. This is more action orientated. Some practical effects come off just as fake, looking rubbery or plastic.:o

Saying it will never feel as exciting as the first is just dumb. Of course it won't. It was the first time we saw something like this and these dinosaurs. That sense of awe can not be replicated unless we're all flashed with a neuralyzer.8)

[Shred Head]

I see this movie and think if its better then the last two its a success. So far it looks good at least better then the rest of the dreck coming out this summer. Tell the truth outside of this Avengers and Dragonball Z Resurection [F] nothing has really impressed me.

[TigerClaw]

Check out the new Clip, Which shows them being chased by the new Dinosaur.

w2R8Dt6WDPU

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think Jurassic World looks awesome. Imdb is flooded with hate right now. Who cares if it uses a bunch of cgi? If its good looking (I think it is) it does not matter. Practical effects just-because is not a enough reason. This is more action orientated. Some practical effects come off just as fake, looking rubbery or plastic.:o


Half-decent practical effects can sometimes blow away CGI. The original Planet of the Apes makeup for the apes looks far more realistic than the Michael Bay-ish CGI in the new movie.

Saying it will never feel as exciting as the first is just dumb. Of course it won't. It was the first time we saw something like this and these dinosaurs. That sense of awe can not be replicated unless we're all flashed with a neuralyzer.8)

That's the sort of attitude that gets us so many terrible sequels today. The writers think, "Oh, it'll never be as good as the original, let's not even try to make a good movie and just put some explosions and boobs in there and something that reminds them of the original... that'll attract audiences."

Jurassic World doesn't have to wow us with its effects, but it's been a long time since the third installment and since no one likes the 2nd or 3rd films they should really try to blow us away this time around, to show that you can make a good Jurassic Park movie regardless of the revolutionary-ness of the FX.

[Wildcat]

Half-decent practical effects can sometimes blow away CGI. The original Planet of the Apes makeup for the apes looks far more realistic than the Michael Bay-ish CGI in the new movie.

That's the sort of attitude that gets us so many terrible sequels today. The writers think, "Oh, it'll never be as good as the original, let's not even try to make a good movie and just put some explosions and boobs in there and something that reminds them of the original... that'll attract audiences."

Jurassic World doesn't have to wow us with its effects, but it's been a long time since the third installment and since no one likes the 2nd or 3rd films they should really try to blow us away this time around, to show that you can make a good Jurassic Park movie regardless of the revolutionary-ness of the FX.Have not seen the new Apes movies but my point was when it looks good it does not matter. JW is more action orientated. Practical Effects can not do all the things seen in the trailer.

No, it's not about writers thinking "who cares, it'll attract people". It's about a lot of people's cynical attitude using the cheap excuse of "it will never be as good as the original". The majority of sequels are not because 1. The idea is already established and 2. The viewers basically know what to expect. That's not the sequel's fault. It's how a series works.

What exactly should JW be then if not an action heavy dinosaur movie? Regardless of I-rex it was going to be about dinosaurs breaking loose. The Park is fully functional which is already better than the generic "we got stuck on the island yet again" plots of the last two.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'm going opening day! This is a "shut up and take my money" movie

[sdp]

Oh yeah, I'll be going to a midnight showing and see it at least once more after that, but I'm still a bit disappointed with the last two trailers. Now that the Star Wars trailer hype has worn off a little I'm going to go into full Jurassic Park mode again, rewatching the movies, replaying games, reading comcis and whatnot. I'll probably save the novels either for after the movies or maybe to build hype for a JW2, it all depends. They did mention how JW was a stand alone story but with some elements in it so it could be made into a trilogy.

[Sahtori]

I can't wait. Oh my stars!

[TigerClaw]

Listen to two tracks from the Jurassic World soundtrack.

CEk9EH2dKlk

[turtlefanforever]

i'm starting to come around to it. The next trailers are making it look better

[TheCanadiandrome]

Yes I can't wait

[sdp]

I've come to terms with the trained raptors, if handled well it could definitely work. I am pretty hyped, I've been getting ready for this movie and hope to be impressed. My expectations for this movie are "another JP story to enjoy", I do expect it to be better than say TLW and JP/// which are all lacking sequels, unsure if it'll be able to be much better but as long as it isn't worse than them I'll be fine. And if anyone doesn't know the composer for JW actually worked on JP before, he made the soundtrack for The Lost World:JP videogame, here is the link to it: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTjRQYymlPaigrqgalV93iWA_QW6Nm0jy

[sdp]

I just got back from watching the movie and while JP is my favorite film I think I can be fairly objective while talking about the movie but of course there's some bias. My review will be spoiler free for the most part and if not I'll definitely tag it, I was already ruined two deaths and a key final scene by the ineptitude of the staff at the JPLegacy forums who they themselves don't follow the spoiler free forum rules...
for a review of jurassic world when it came out with hype mode click here (http://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world/)

[TigerClaw]

I plan on seeing it in 3D on Saturday, Looking forward to it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

i'm going tonight, in 3D of course

[TigerClaw]

Looks like Jurassic World has made 18.5 million on Thursday night.
http://deadline.com/2015/06/jurassic-world-weekend-box-office-spy-entourage-insidious-chapter-3-1201441812/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Seeing it sometime this weekend... looking forward to Starlord with a trio of trained raptors who might or might not turn on him at some point. :tlol:

[Brodie]

I saw it Thursday. it was great. Probably way better than it had any right to be. It was a lot of fun. I easily could have gone back and watched it again right afterwards.

[Raph's Girl]

Saw it this morning. Loved it. I feel it's just as good as the original. A true proper sequel that totally throws JP2 and 3 out of the water.

The scene with the dying Apatasaur was totally heartbreaking! :cry: But man... Blue is totally the hero of this film. She totally became my fave character. Especially in the end when she teamed up with the T-Rex to help defeat the A-Rex. :D

I loved the homages and references to the original park. From the T-Shirt to the kids finding the original building.

[mexichrist83]

Saw the first screening of JW last night and it was a pretty stupid movie but it makes for an ok turn-your-brain-off popcorn flick. The human characters were stupid and uninteresting which is a shame because these are the characters that you want to root for when the dinosaur mayhem is going on. Thankfully, the dinosaur mayhem starts pretty quick (or at least it felt like it did). The trained raptors were handled better than I was expecting as well. I like how it was still established that they were not 100% trained and still unpredictable.

The CGI wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be and it seemed like there was even some animatronics in the movie so that was appreciated. It was also cool to see the park operational because that is something I've always wanted to see in a JP movie but sadly there isn't too much disaster in the park itself.

This is one of those movies where the more you think about it the more it sucks (that's my experience with it anyway).

Also, of the few on screen deaths that we saw did anyone else think that the assistant got a pretty unnecessarily awful death scene? Her death was way worse than the unnecessary InGen villain.

[turtlefanforever]

There was about 45mins of good movie in this. A LOT of filler. It got REALLY good at the end, but a lot of the good was drown out by bad acting & multiple plot holes. Isn't the high quality film we expect from the Jurassic Park series, it did NOT earn the right to be considered part of the franchise which is why i'm glad it was called jurassic world and not jurassic park. All in all it was a good film. On it's own it's good, to former jurassic parks it's kinda garbage. But it is worth a watch. Would i go see it again just for personal pleasure? no. But i would watch it again.

The way i could describe it is: It's a movie you put on when you're going to sleep. Great background noise type of movie. Where you aren't really paying attention but still sorta watching then there's those few parts where you're like "oh! look at this!" Not too much wow. Very underwhelimg picture.

2 outta 5 stars for me.

I made sure not to include any spoilers in my review.

[turtlefanforever]

Saw the first screening of JW last night and it was a pretty stupid movie but it makes for an ok turn-your-brain-off popcorn flick. The human characters were stupid and uninteresting which is a shame because these are the characters that you want to root for when the dinosaur mayhem is going on. Thankfully, the dinosaur mayhem starts pretty quick (or at least it felt like it did). The trained raptors were handled better than I was expecting as well. I like how it was still established that they were not 100% trained and still unpredictable.

The CGI wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be and it seemed like there was even some animatronics in the movie so that was appreciated. It was also cool to see the park operational because that is something I've always wanted to see in a JP movie but sadly there isn't too much disaster in the park itself.

This is one of those movies where the more you think about it the more it sucks (that's my experience with it anyway).

Also, of the few on screen deaths that we saw did anyone else think that the assistant got a pretty unnecessarily awful death scene? Her death was way worse than the unnecessary InGen villain.

Glad someone else is here not praising this movie.

Her death was so F'd up. They just kept toying with her. wtf? and the fact that we didn't get to see the villain ripped to shreds after tht pissed me off. The acting was terrible. couldn't stand them. WHy did it take them so long to evacuate the park? After A-rex killed all these people they wait till the dinosaurs are literally attacking the people to be like "yeah evacuate" the writing was generally bad. Not saying i could do better but you come to expect much more. The raptors were done great. You pretty much said it all, and i said my other thoughts in my review. Also wasn't expecting the A-rex to get eaten like that. That was the best part.

[The Stryker]

Isn't the high quality film we expect from the Jurassic Park series, it did NOT earn the right to be considered part of the franchise which is why i'm glad it was called jurassic world and not jurassic park. All in all it was a good film. On it's own it's good, to former jurassic parks it's kinda garbage. But it is worth a watch. Would i go see it again just for personal pleasure? no. But i would watch it again.


Not the high quality film we expect from the jurassic park....SERIES?

Did Lost World and 3 become good at some point?

[turtlefanforever]

Not the high quality film we expect from the jurassic park....SERIES?

Did Lost World and 3 become good at some point?

How about you actually watch the movie this thread is about before you come in here with that ish, guy. i know you love to hate on everything for the sake of it but cool it down a little skid row.

You're steering this thread is a totally different direction. If you got arguments you wanna start PM people directly. says so in the forum rules. I'll ignore you, but don't high jack the thread going off about other films.

contribute or don't comment. Same goes for everybody.

[Leo656]

Not the high quality film we expect from the jurassic park....SERIES?

Did Lost World and 3 become good at some point?

Haha, nice. Nice. :lol:

You can't even DO any more movies after the second one, man! Not reasonably, anyways. A man-made dinosaur knocked over a major American city! Thus, the U.S. government then bombards the island from the air and locks up any survivors who were involved in the dinosaurs' creation for about 700 years, while Congress immediately gets to work on a ton of "You science nerds better NEVER f*cking do this again!" laws.

Seriously. After part 2, Isla Nublar is a smoking nuclear waste crater and everyone involved rots in jail forever for treason or something similar. That's the ONLY plausible cause-and-affect scenario you can have unless you just pretend the second movie never happened. :lol: Which, to be fair, isn't a bad idea. :trazz:

I'm most interested in a total "worst case scenario" endgame where the dinosaurs finally get loose and end all civilized life. I mean, that's what would happen. Just because it's a movie doesn't mean there HAS to be a happy ending. The JP saga should end with a lone scientist, about to be killed by one of his creations, looking on a dead shell of a planet and realizing that it's all his fault, that humanity over-reached, and in their hubris, killed themselves. And then all that's left is the dinosaurs, and it really IS a "Jurassic World". Then, you're also telling a story, and not just shouting "LOOK! CGI dinosaurs!" at the top of your lungs to try and make people care, y'know?

THAT's a good story. F*** just making the same movie with bigger dinosaurs over and over again. Go all the way or just put it to bed already.

[The Stryker]

How about you actually watch the movie this thread is about before you come in here with that ish, guy. i know you love to hate on everything for the sake of it but cool it down a little skid row.

You're steering this thread is a totally different direction. If you got arguments you wanna start PM people directly. says so in the forum rules. I'll ignore you, but don't high jack the thread going off about other films.

contribute or don't comment. Same goes for everybody.

You brought up the other movies homie! I'm just saying. There is no higher standard for Jurassic Park as a series.

It's the first movie and that's it. Lost World and 3 are mediocre at best. So it's not a lot for the latest movie to live up to.

I saw World and I liked it a lot actually. It's a fun action movie and I thought the climax was really exciting in a crazy 'kid playing with his dinosaur toys' kinda way.

[sdp]

I really liked it, I'd rank it above TLW and JP/// easily. I went into the movie not knowing what to expect, even as a huge JP fan the trailers weren't convincing me. Now I'll wait for a second showing to see if I still like it as much or if my opinion changes, so I'll post my opinions here later.

You can't even DO any more movies after the second one, man!....Thus, the U.S. government then bombards the island from the air.........for about 700 years, while Congress immediately gets to work on a ton of "You science nerds better NEVER f*cking do this again!" laws.....Seriously. After part 2, Isla Nublar is a smoking nuclear waste crater........I'm most interested in a total "worst case scenario" endgame where the dinosaurs finally get loose and end all civilized life.

Edited most of your fanfiction out of your post to make it easier to digest for others. You can't really do a better movie after the first one, it tells a fantastic story and finishes it. Now you can do sequels, I mean you have an island full of dinosaurs there's plenty of possibilities but nothing that can top the original. Your fan fiction doesn't even make sense since TLW takes place in Isla Sorna and not Isla Nublar, not to mention the ending of that same movie has the island being kept as a natural habitat not to be touched as per Hammonds wishes. In the original book of JP the island does get nuked, which is why Crichton created a second island for the sequel book. As for your ideas for a sequel they sound absolutely terrible and nothing like Jurassic Park, however it seems like the franchise is heading in that direction based on what the director said and some scenes from the new movie....




Her death was so F'd up. They just kept toying with her. wtf? and the fact that we didn't get to see the villain ripped to shreds after tht pissed me off. The acting was terrible. couldn't stand them. WHy did it take them so long to evacuate the park? After A-rex killed all these people they wait till the dinosaurs are literally attacking the people to be like "yeah evacuate" the writing was generally bad. Not saying i could do better but you come to expect much more.

Well it's realistic in the sense that dinosaurs don't know who the villain is they're just seeing food. Her death was pretty messed up but it's one of the most memorable deaths. I think in deleted scenes we'll see that she had far more scenes of ignoring the kids though. Eddie Carr got a death just as bad in TLW. As for them not evacuating the island they mention it like three times in the movies as to why not. If this incident was known then the park would be shut down for good, they were trying to contain it, of course it got out of control and you can argue had the pteradons not escaped then there was still some time before the I-Rex even got to the real park.

There was about 45mins of good movie in this. A LOT of filler. It got REALLY good at the end, but a lot of the good was drown out by bad acting & multiple plot holes. Isn't the high quality film we expect from the Jurassic Park series, it did NOT earn the right to be considered part of the franchise which is why i'm glad it was called jurassic world and not jurassic park. All in all it was a good film. On it's own it's good, to former jurassic parks it's kinda garbage. But it is worth a watch.Very underwhelimg picture. 2 outta 5 stars for me.

What? I can understand not liking the movie but your reasons not to like it are very weak. How is this worse than TLW and JP///? Those movies are very weak, and this is not derailing the thread, especially since half of your review is comparing it to them.. Does the movie have flaws? sure. but I think fewer than the other sequels. Bad acting? It's definitely better than the acting in TLW and JP/// at least, I actually thought the acting wasn't that bad outside of the kids. And if by it got awesome in the end you refer to the final fight scene? That's actually the part that seems out of a superhero/Kaiju movie and not JP, it didn't need to last that long, even if I liked it I think it won't hold up for future viewings. And what plotholes? I didn't see any huge plotholes while watching it.

[Leo656]

Junk.

Ooooh, I forgot one little detail regarding the name of the island of the seond movie. And your "editing" involved all of taking out three or four words and replacing them with "..."

Really "got" me there. :roll:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Haha, nice. Nice. :lol:

You can't even DO any more movies after the second one, man! Not reasonably, anyways. A man-made dinosaur knocked over a major American city! Thus, the U.S. government then bombards the island from the air and locks up any survivors who were involved in the dinosaurs' creation for about 700 years, while Congress immediately gets to work on a ton of "You science nerds better NEVER f*cking do this again!" laws.

Seriously. After part 2, Isla Nublar is a smoking nuclear waste crater and everyone involved rots in jail forever for treason or something similar. That's the ONLY plausible cause-and-affect scenario you can have unless you just pretend the second movie never happened. :lol: Which, to be fair, isn't a bad idea. :trazz:


Just let it go, Leo. It's pretty clear most folks never read the second BOOK that TLW was based on. Granted, the two movies got the islands backward as to which one got nuked (it was the PARK, while the "secret island" was just abandoned) but it's whatever. Actually, a LOT of stuff from the books got switched around in the movies. Like the compies on the beach attacking the little girl. That scene was at the beginning of the FIRST BOOK! And funny thing, they make a point in the very beginning that there were already attacks happening on the mainland (in Panama, I believe) long before Nedry let the dinos out and the hurricane stranded everyone at their mercy. So either way, you got your wish!

[Leo656]

Well it's nice to know that SOMEone actually decided to use ideas that both made sense and were interesting in trying to keep the story rolling. Because the basic idea of JP is an interesting story with a ton of possibilities.

None of which really end up in the sequel films, which are all content to be "The First Movie, But Bigger". Which is "okay" I guess, but when there are dozens of better ideas your story could use it just feels cheap and lazy NOT to.

[sdp]

Ooooh, I forgot one little detail regarding the name of the island of the seond movie. And your "editing" involved all of taking out three or four words and replacing them with "..."

Really "got" me there. :roll:
I mostly took out your fanfic of what a JP sequel should be. I didn't just ignore any point you made by calling it junk. And there being two islands instead of one is actually a pretty big detail here, I'm not trying to be anal about it.

None of which really end up in the sequel films, which are all content to be "The First Movie, But Bigger". Which is "okay" I guess, but when there are dozens of better ideas your story could use it just feels cheap and lazy NOT to.

Only JW is trying to be like the first movie but bigger. TLW and JP/// went a different direction.

[TigerClaw]

I'm gonna see Jurassic World tomorrow, I know I'm gonna enjoy it since I love these movies.

I also like the idea that, this sequel takes things that happened from the 1st film, And make it happen. The who thing of a fully functioning Theme Park, Which the 1st film was trying to be about, But it all went to hell. With this one, It seems they beefed up the security, and took a lot of safety precaution to make sure nothing goes wrong.

[Leo656]

Yeah, laterally. As in, they moved, kinda of, but nothing really moved forward. More like sideways.

[turtlefanforever]

Well it's realistic in the sense that dinosaurs don't know who the villain is they're just seeing food. Her death was pretty messed up but it's one of the most memorable deaths. I think in deleted scenes we'll see that she had far more scenes of ignoring the kids though. Eddie Carr got a death just as bad in TLW. As for them not evacuating the island they mention it like three times in the movies as to why not. If this incident was known then the park would be shut down for good, they were trying to contain it, of course it got out of control and you can argue had the pteradons not escaped then there was still some time before the I-Rex even got to the real park.



It was pretty clear they couldn't contain it well before they decided to evacuate.

i can compare this easily to Lake Placid vs Anaconda. It's basically just a random dinosaur movie. In Lake Placid vs Anaconda they keep mentioning the blood orchid to let you know this is a sequel and this is the anaconda from anacondas BUT in reality it's just a random anaconda. In this film it's the same type of thing. They keep mentioning Hammond/InGen, they show random stuff from the original movie but in reality it's just a random dinosaur movie.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I went last night and I found this movie to be gloriously good! And I disagree about there being a lot more "filler" than good movie! This movie had be hooked from start to finish and I just utterly enjoyed it. Granted I'm a huge fan of the series so that helps.

[snake]

I liked it. Better than the sh*tty sequels. I had fun.

[mexichrist83]

Glad someone else is here not praising this movie.

I'm not really sure why this movie is getting so much praise from people. It is a very flawed movie. I spent too much time asking myself "why are all of these characters so stupid and archetypes instead of feeling like actual people" and having too many "but wait" moments. When I find myself doing that I know I am not fully enjoying a movie otherwise I would just be going with the flow.

I'm considering seeing it again just to see if those same problems still bother me on a second viewing but regardless of whether or not I see it again I should not be having those thoughts that frequently during the first viewing.

I wasn't expecting a mind-blowing moviegoing experience but at the very least I wanted a decent monster/disaster movie but the movie kind of failed there too. Nothing really happens at the actual park aside from the pterodactyls getting loose and the Indominus Rex finally making it to the park at the end of the movie and fighting the T Rex (which was a damn fun and cool scene)

[TigerClaw]

Finally saw the movie, I thought it was great, Its right up there with the 1st one. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHZRjMsUkAA8Gaq.jpg

[Leo656]

Pretty sure we'd believe you even without the "evidence", chief. :lol:

I spent too much time asking myself "why are all of these characters so stupid and archetypes instead of feeling like actual people"

That was KILLING me when I saw the second and third movies! "Every single person in the JP universe is an idiot! This sequence of events only gets to take place if everyone involved makes the absolute worst decision they can make at any given moment! Why are you all so stupid?! I'm rooting for the dinosaurs, you morons don't deserve to see the end credits!"

Nice to hear they're keeping "tradition" alive in some fashion. :lol: It's up to my wife if we're gonna go and she's still undecided. Loves the series, thinks this one looks kinda dumb, though, so she might just want to wait for the DVD. We'll definitely end up seeing it eventually. My position on the movies as a series is simply, I'm not impressed by technology but I am impressed by good storytelling, thus I only really enjoy the first one, because it's really quite good all the way around, while the rest aren't exactly bad, but they are utterly pointless and all about spectacle. I'd be very curious to see what kind of movie they could make if they decided to focus not on newer, bigger dinosaurs to ramp up the "Wow!" factor, but maybe do something a little bit more unpredictable with the resources they've got.

The worst thing is, as stated, the whole entire thing is predicated upon the idea that nobody in the movies learns anything, ever. That always frustrates me. It's like, after the 80th teenager gets killed, you just gotta burn Crystal Lake to the ground and stop trying to set up a camp there, y'know? :lol:

[TigerClaw]

Brian Tee, Who is playing the new Shredder in TMNT 2, Has a tiny part in this movie.
He gets crushed by Indominus Rex's foot.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Now that I've seen in, I can say that it's not as good as the first one, but it's a better sequel than 2 and 3. And The Ending Made The Movie For Me. Although, I wish that They used the Indominus Rex's ability to camouflage for more than just one scene.

[turtlefanforever]

I'm not really sure why this movie is getting so much praise from people. It is a very flawed movie. I spent too much time asking myself "why are all of these characters so stupid and archetypes instead of feeling like actual people" and having too many "but wait" moments. When I find myself doing that I know I am not fully enjoying a movie otherwise I would just be going with the flow.

I'm considering seeing it again just to see if those same problems still bother me on a second viewing but regardless of whether or not I see it again I should not be having those thoughts that frequently during the first viewing.

I wasn't expecting a mind-blowing moviegoing experience but at the very least I wanted a decent monster/disaster movie but the movie kind of failed there too. Nothing really happens at the actual park aside from the pterodactyls getting loose and the Indominus Rex finally making it to the park at the end of the movie and fighting the T Rex (which was a damn fun and cool scene)

That scene was awesome. It also is very generic and plaid out follows a lot of those storylines namely "i hate you. But we have to work together" "mildly sexual remark" ... works together... saves her, "i love you, kiss me"

Also what's with the dude duel wielding drinks while running away from the pteranodons? He's just like "i payed for this ***t i'm not leavin it"

[TigerClaw]

You guys will love this, This guy has audio that he recorded back in 2009 when he was a student at USC, He asked Spielberg a question about the T-Rex in Jurassic Park 3, It made Spielberg feel guilty about it, And he told him, I'm gonna make up for this in Jurassic Park 4.

S7k6XNMAhTo

And low and behold, The T-Rex shows up and wins at the end of Jurassic World.

[sdp]

^^^^^
Nice video but I doubt it was because of that the Rex got his scene in the movie. It's pretty well known the Spinosaurus was hated for doing that in JP/// and the Director commented many times how the Rex would be treated with respect in JW and he was aware of the backlash of JP///. So I think I don't think Spielberg had anything to do with it.

Now that I've seen in, I can say that it's not as good as the first one, but it's a better sequel than 2 and 3. And The Ending Made The Movie For Me. Although, I wish that They used the Indominus Rex's ability to camouflage for more than just one scene.

Well the first movie tells a story and finishes it like I've said. The only other movie that can possibly be better than the first JP movie would be a remake that stays faithful to the book. The book doesn't have the Spielberg magic but is pretty damn good and would make a great film.

As for your wish I thought exactly the same thing we finally have a reason as to why it can camouflage and now the movies could've recreated some awesome scenes from TLW book which if you don't know the Carnotours have camouflage and we could've gotten some great scenes in the movie that weren't in TLW film adaptation. Instead the only thing we ever saw from the Indominus Rex was his Hulk like super strength that seemed out of a superhero movie

[NinjaPug]

Far from great but it was easily the best of the sequels. It was awesome to see the original T-Rex in action again. Was Chris Pratt channeling Burt Reynolds in this? Not enough Jake Johnson in this - thought he was the best character.

With this on pace to make $180-$200 million domestically this weekend you know a 5th (and probably 6th, 7th and 8th) is on the way. I don't see a good story for this franchise going forward though. Where do you take this story and have it be interesting?

[sdp]

Well the movie hints at Dinosaurs as soldiers in wars and in an interview the director mentions that as well as Dinosaurs being used in agriculture because it's similar to the Space Race. But he won't direct the next movie so who knows.

Personally I've always wanted a movie where poachers go to the island since that's what I used to play as a kid and the Series II toys also dealt with that as did the SNES sequel "JP:The Chaos Continues" and even the Genesis sequel "Rampage Edition". TLW kind of deals with that a little but not fully. There's still some very iconic scenes from the two novels that have yet to be recreated fully on screen like the river scene, all four movies have taken elements from the novels and it'd be nice when this new JW Trilogy finishes both books being fully realized on screen in one way or another.

Dinosaurs on the mainland I'm not a fan of but a few escaped dinosaurs making it is fine, we see a little bit of this in the novel, in the comic and in a young adult book of the franchise. But all of these stories work because they are in set in a small area and only 1-3 dinosaurs on the loose but it's a slippery slope, especially when we read the original script of JP4. And that's what I'm afraid of anything from that script such as hybrid human/raptors and dinosaurs being used as weapons by the military.

[NinjaPug]

Well the movie hints at Dinosaurs as soldiers in wars and in an interview the director mentions that as well as Dinosaurs being used in agriculture because it's similar to the Space Race. But he won't direct the next movie so who knows.


Yeah, I caught that. Sounds like a really bad idea for a movie.

[NinjaPug]

JW made a whole bunch of money this weekend. Projecting $204 million domestically and $511 million globally (first movie to gross over $500 million globally opening weekend). I bet the final domestic numbers will be over the Avengers record of $207 million assuming it doesn't take too big of a hit tonight with the NBA finals and GOT finale on. They beat the earlier Friday and Saturday projections.

[TigerClaw]

JW made a whole bunch of money this weekend. Projecting $204 million domestically and $511 million globally (first movie to gross over $500 million globally opening weekend). I bet the final domestic numbers will be over the Avengers record of $207 million assuming it doesn't take too big of a hit tonight with the NBA finals and GOT finale on. They beat the earlier Friday and Saturday projections.
it beat out the record set by Avengers: Age of Ultron.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=121708
With around $307.2M accumulated overseas, and that $204.6M domestic take, the global opening is $511.8M — the first time a film has ever grossed more than $500M in one weekend.

[NinjaPug]

Thanks for replying with the exact same thing I just posted. WTF?

I wasn't talking about Age of Ultron. I think the final numbers will be over what they're projecting and higher than the record set by the first Avengers.

[Leo656]

Thanks for replying with the exact same thing I just posted. WTF?

That's just his gimmick. :lol:

[TheCanadiandrome]

Now that I've seen in, I can say that it's not as good as the first one, but it's a better sequel than 2 and 3. And The Ending Made The Movie For Me. Although, I wish that They used the Indominus Rex's ability to camouflage for more than just one scene.

I thought they did? I'm pretty sure that came up more than one scene bro

[shuriken]

It was twice from my recollection
Once in the cage, and another time when the soldiers found his tracking chip.
But I really enjoyed it. As much as the first one, and that hipster guy with the Jurassic Park shirt was hilarious. I just really wanted Bryce Dallas Howard's character to get eaten.

[Raph's Girl]

Looks like they've confirmed that the T-rex who helped Blue fight the I-Rex was the same one from the first movie!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/15/jurassic-park-easter-eggs-jurassic-world

[B-Man]

Loved it. It's full of problems but I can't deny that had this been made in the 90's as the first sequel, it probably would've been my favourite movie growing up (even moreso than The Lost World). They better bring Jake Johnson back for the inevitable sequel.

[turtlefanforever]

Ok so here's the realistic breakdown of this movie. Not gonna use spoilers cause if you're in this thread you've already seen the movie or you're just asking for ish to be spoiled because if u really wanted to go in fresh you wouldn't want to read people talking about it

Anyways here it goes,...

We start out with this 2 very generic kids, Gray is full of life and energy and excited to go to jurassic world and see his aunt for the first time in forever and Zach is just a teenage somber POS. They get in the car and head to the airport the dad's making fun of zach for missing his gf and being a dick so you know he's a 'down to earth hip dad' cause that's how hollywood writes them. The moms just hysterical about her boys going off and she's all sad and then they go to Jurassic world.

Claire (the aunt) is all running around "this new unveiling has to go off without a hitch" which obviously it's not going to because then there wouldn't be a movie. (Mentions the dudes jurassic park shirt is in bad taste one of the not so subtle hints they keep throwing in here to remind you this is a sequal to the Jurassic Park movies.) Chris Pratt is training the raptors some military douche comes up "we gotta use the raptors for war! We HAVE to! with you or without you baby!" Pratts just like "nah" Some dude Falls in with the raptors pratt tells the raptors to stay and has the guy close the door, he does and he rolls out last second.

The boys get their, the aunts like "yeah i can't watch you but you're in good hands and pawns them off on some chick. (who happens to be holding Ian Malcoms book) Gray is sad they don't get to spend time with her, she promises she will tomorrow. The boys take a tour of the park Gray is happy again looking at the dinosaurs Zach being the miserable Sack of ish he is, is like "this is baby stuff" Standing in front of one of the biggest f'n miracles in the world just staring into his phone, couldn't caring less. Claire is up in the air with Simon, one of Hammonds friends who continualy mentions hammond throughout the movie (another one of those not so subtle reminders to let you know that this IS [at least supposed to be] a sequal. He says she must get the cage inspected so Claire has to go to Pratt to inspect the I-Rexs cage, Pratts all like "why didn't you go on a second date" and she's got that all "omg i hate you but we're totally gonna fall in love at the end of the film" thing going. So she makes some snide remark they go check out the I-rex, Pratt asks what it is, She says "part t-rex the rest is classified" They can't find it in the cage because it's camouflaged they go in to look around and THEN decide to check it's tracking device. Needless to say 2 guys were killed Pratt makes it out and I-rex escapes.

They're like "you have to evacuate the island" and Claires like "no that'll ruin us, we can contain it" so they're going around searching for it, send in a special task force, the I-rex trapped them by ripping out it's tracking device and getting them right where he wants them. Meanwhile the kids are watching some show and Zach is actually showing some forms of life. Then they go off into the ball thing you see in the commercial, while in line Zach is checking out and sort of flirting with other girls. Being the douche that he is, considering he clearly has a girl back home. Gray makes some wise crack. Zach and Gray get in and drive off, the operator gets a class and says the ride is closed. Gray just starts crying "our parent's are getting divorced" Zachs like "no they're not" (completely stoned faced, continuing to prove that he is unable to display any sort of emotion) And Grays like "yes they are" and zachs like "ok yeah they are" Not much of an argument there. "but you get 2 of everything. and Grays like "but i don't want two of everything, i want actual talent and acting ability" Which clearly from this movie is impossible.

They keep on driving, Claire is with Pratt in the car tracking it down and trying to call the boys. they answer but can't here her.(a trend throughout the movie) The I-rex kills all the dinosaurs around them then smashes their little bubble and they run away. Pratt 7 Claire show up to a feild of dead dinos "it's killing for sport" They share some moment over a dead dinosaur. There is a "we need some real fire power moment. So Simon takes to the air with some dudes with a massive mounted machine gun. and unloads MISSING ABSOLUTELY EVERY SHOT of course! Like seriously not even coming close. It's like they were aiming for the very end of it's tail. I-rex breaks into the aviary Pteranodons come out and lightly bump the Chopper and it then goes spiraling out of control and blows up.

That douche comes by again, "Those raptors baby! WAR! Give me some WAR! F-yeah! Raptors! And did i mention, WAR?!!!" The boys end up at the place from the end of the first film and use the Banner from the ending as a torch. And then hotwire an original jurassic park car and drive off (Hey guys, did you know this was a sequel?) The Pteradons are at the center of the island now about to pick everyone off so they were like "Ok yeah nows a good time to sound the Alarm" So they do and everyone is running around like crazy. There's one dude like duel wielding Beers refusing to put them down like a normal person would. Pratt and Claire finally track them down and meet them at the center just in time to see they girl that she pawned them off on torn to shreds. She hugs them and then they get out of there, and here comes the dude with a hardon for war and raptors again. "War and raptors baby! war and raptors! With or without you!" His own personal slogan I'm guessing. Pratt finally agrees. They go after the I-rex with the raptors. They find it. Now the I-rex talks to them "No wonder they didn't tell us, it's part Raptor, they have a new alpha" and now the Raptors are picking off the people along with I-rex. They drive off and run away. Zachs like "your boyfriend is BA" and she smiles. THey end up at the DNA lab again.

THe dude with the raptor and war hard on gets killed off camera. They run out and now they are surrounded by Raptors, which there has only been 5 this whole movie and you saw the majority of them killed already but somehow there is even more. And Pratt does that hand thing talking to his favorite Raptor Blue. I-rex shows up and the raptors start fighting it and pratt is shooting at it. I-rex (seemingly) takes out the raptors

Claire hides the boys in a sort of safe room, Gray goes "we need more teeth." Something a guy should never say. And Then Claire makes them open the T-rex cage and the T-rex starts fighting it and is losing and then out of no where Blue comes out (You're my boy blue!) and starts fighting the I-rex with it and then they trap it by the water and it gets eaten. Claire is like "what do we do now" And Pratts all "lets stick together"

T-rex roars, Movie ends.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I liked it better than Jurassic Park, honestly. Rewatched JP with my little brother this weekend, and forgot just how much of a slow build it was.

JW starts off much quicker (action starts around 20 minutes, I think?) and never let up. Plus...

Starlord and a team of freaking velociraptors. 'Nuff said.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Oh, I forgot about the sequence in the cage. My biggest issue with the film was the subplot about Zack and Gray's parents getting divorced. Not only did it seemed tacked on, but they mentioned it at the beginning and dropped it by the end.

[TigerClaw]

Marvel and Kevin Feige congratulated Jurassic World for being the #1 movie.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=121781

Check out the cool Artwork they posted.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHo0m8yWcAERieO.jpg

[turtlefanforever]

Marvel and Kevin Feige congratulated Jurassic World for being the #1 movie.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=121781

Check out the cool Artwork they posted.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHo0m8yWcAERieO.jpg

it's funny cause the avengers film and this both sucked.

Hype+ unknown = $$$$

See Micheal Bay TMNT for evidence

[B-Man]

it's funny cause the avengers film and this both sucked.

Hype+ unknown = $$$$

See Micheal Bay TMNT for evidence

So you just hate everything, huh? :lol: (also, you seriously expect people to read all of your other post???)

[TheCanadiandrome]

Looks like they've confirmed that the T-rex who helped Blue fight the I-Rex was the same one from the first movie!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/15/jurassic-park-easter-eggs-jurassic-world

omg i so totally thought so

[turtlefanforever]

So you just hate everything, huh? :lol: (also, you seriously expect people to read all of your other post???)

Within itself it's a solid flick. it's fun, it's just not a Jurassic park sequel to me. There's plenty of stuff i like, But the Hype or avengers and JW gave them those numbers, not the quality of the movie or writing which was very low. But Jurassic world was better than the avengers film.

I don't care who reads it or not, that's just my no bull-spit breakdown

[B-Man]

True true. But after Jurassic Park III, anything is a step up :lol: Jurassic World is a dream sequel in comparison.

[snake]

Within itself it's a solid flick. it's fun, it's just not a Jurassic park sequel to me. There's plenty of stuff i like, But the Hype or avengers and JW gave them those numbers, not the quality of the movie or writing which was very low. But Jurassic world was better than the avengers film.

I don't care who reads it or not, that's just my no bull-spit breakdown

Jurassic World was leagues better than AOU. Honestly, how would you handle a sequel without making it retarded? (human/dinosaur military hybrid)

JW was the best possible way to do a sequel.

[turtlefanforever]

Jurassic World was leagues better than AOU. Honestly, how would you handle a sequel without making it retarded? (human/dinosaur military hybrid)

JW was the best possible way to do a sequel.

Wasn't talking about Age of Ultron, haven't seen it yet. I'm talking about the first live action film which did great but sucked, that said i heard age of ultron sucked too.

and there's plenty of ways to make a sequel without making it stupid. "Retarded" is a word you do not use to describe something or someone as being stupid. That's juvenile.

[Candy Kappa]

True true. But after Jurassic Park III, anything is a step up :lol: Jurassic World is a dream sequel in comparison.

Nah, it could sink so much lower... Have you seen the concept art for JP4 that was leaked some time ago?

One word: Dinosauroids :lol:

[Powder]

THIS MOVIE WAS SO DAMN GOOD HNNGNH

I hope there's more coming!

[TigerClaw]

Check out this interesting article on Jurassic World, Why it helps and hurts Independence Day 2.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/06/16/why-jurassic-world-helps-hurts-independence-day-2/

[FlawedCoil82]

I saw it last night. It was definitely better than the third movie and possibly a point above the second as well. But I still can't rank it above the first one and still wish there was a good, long side view shot of a Triceratops. Id like to see him have an actual part to play instead of just being a background dino in the past 3 sequels.

[Refractive Reflections]

I saw the movie yesterday and it was pretty good, but it wasn't as dazzling, captivating, and inventive as the original. If I had to rate the original as having an A grade rating, I would give The Lost World a B, Jurassic Park 3 a B-/C+, and Jurassic World about a B+.

My opinion lines up with the critics in how they praised the visuals and score, but not so impressed with the tone and writing. Yes it is spectacular to see the park finally opened and see some new dinosaurs that were not shown before, but I feel that the original movie had the characters interact far more with the park and their dinosaurs when everything went to chaos (i.e. Lex & Tim encountering a Brachiosaurus in the morning, the stealthy Raptors who added a new layer of fear when they were placed in the kitchen with Tim and Lex, and found at the maintenance shed when Ellie discovers a Raptor and Arnold's severed arm, having the T. Rex knock over and push the electric jeep over the wall), but with Jurassic World, I didn't feel that we really got to see the diversity of dinosaurs (and their behaviors) as much as we did with Jurassic Park. The experience of seeing these dinosaurs at Jurassic World just seemed too compartmentalized and brief that came across as more as visually impressive to boast on today's CGI capabilities (22 years after the original), rather using it to make it more engaging in enhancing the storytelling experience.

What makes this movie have a rating in the "B" range rather than having an "A" is that it parallels too closely with "the park going into chaos" theme ...again. The Indominous Rex (being symbolic of consumer and corporate excess; the pressure the entertainment industry feels in making things bigger, faster, louder, and better), the Raptor training, and the fairly decent yet visually impressive dinosaur battle in the end were the only aspects that kept the movie from being too similar to the original. Without those particular aspects, from a storytelling perspective, I would have given it the same rating as Jurassic Park 3 because there would have been nothing new. Jurassic World did have a little bit more than just "bigger and badder" dinosaurs on the loose from what I was worried about earlier (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1365753#post1365753), since there was an underlying theme behind it in revealing humanity's constant escalating appetite for entertainment thrills and also presented genetic hybridization as a growing concern in creating dinosaurs (...a possible subtle criticism of today's reality of GMOs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism)?), but nothing substantially innovative in terms of plot structure or writing that would make itself stand apart from the shadow of the first movie.

The weaknesses Jurassic World had were the underdeveloped characters and the predictable writing. In the first movie, there are a lot more themes discussed and explored on humanity's creative potential with genetics and its power, and the ethics involved with it that confront the characters, and transform their opinions as the park descends into chaos. In Jurassic World, there are those discussions, but they seem isolated between Dr. Henry Wu and Simon Masrani (the CEO) and with Claire, Owen, and Hoskins, and you don't see their characters being transformed in such a profound way. In addition, the younger characters (specifically Zach and Gray Mitchell) didn't seem to have much of an "adventure" or bonding development as siblings in comparison to Tim and Lex in the original movie. The bonding between all the protagonists was severely lacking in depth in Jurassic World in comparison to the first movie. Plus... although there were many nods and references to original park itself, the funny thing is, there seems to be no lessons "learned" from the first movie, or at least some argument that would make the audience believe that this time having the park would be different.

Overall the movie was entertaining and I would casually see it again, but outside of the nods and ruins of the old park, I don't see this being much of a "sequel" to first movie as it seems more of a spin-off in sharing the same structure of the first movie, but in a different era or time period. I'm actually more interested in the possible sequels in how the director stated he left a few unresolved plot lines (i.e. with the government and InGen taking the embryos off of Jurassic World) for future directors to work with, which could lead to more intriguing plots and abandoning the now becoming tired "chaos in the park" plot.

[sdp]

I saw the movie again, this time in 4DX and it was great, I really do think it's not hype and it's probably the best movie after the original. Some things I noticed in this second viewing or confirmed was that the opening and ending of the movie are really weak. All three movies always start with a chaotic event, it would've been cool to see that one here and the ending also is not hing like the previous endings and it just doesn'ttie everything together very well. I still think the weakest part of the movie is the thing that everyone is praising the movie for, the final fight. At points it feels like a superhero movie fight in its pacing. The indominus Rex is definitely mishandled in many parts of the movie. The old visitors center wasn't that nostalgic to me as it was to others. The boys were handled very well, at least in the beginning, the excitement of the younger brother makes you feel like a kid when watching the movie. Hope they don't go a stupid direction with Jurassic Park 5 since part IV was great.

[Allio]

If I could best describe the movie, it would be like this

Jurassic World is to Jurassic Park
as
Aliens is to Alien

much better than the sequels, glad I watched all 3 movies last week prior to World...and I'm glad I found out about Rex being the one from the original before hand...I think that made me enjoy her alot more

[CyberCubed]

There was a lot of really terrible dialogue in this movie, and I usually can overlook this stuff. The romance between the main characters felt like something out of a Nick/Disney tween sitcom. Also that slow-mo shot of the one raptor heroically running to rescue the main cast to fight the main villain dinosaur was laughable, it felt like one of those kids movies where the pet dog goes and rescues his kid friend.

Speaking of that didn't really care for the kid brothers, but that was kinda expected. Everyone was just a stereotype. The action hero, the woman who is trying to prove she is just as good as the man, the kids, the villain who wants to use dinos for war who you could tell was going to get killed right away, etc. The only character I really liked was the African/Nigerian, he was cool. The British babysitter getting killed the way she was, was just awful. Did she really deserve such a brutal death?

It honestly felt like a kids movie. That's the best way to describe it, as if it was aimed for kids entirely. Sure the scenes with the dinosaurs were cool, but everything was telegraphed a mile away. You KNEW all the soldiers would be killed, you KNEW everyone in the park would be attacked by the flying dinos, you KNEW the main villain guy would get killed, you KNEW the British lady was going to have something bad happen, you KNEW the entire main cast would survive.

This is probably a movie I would have liked as a teenager, but as an adult it was hard to sit through. I honestly think the first 20 minutes of the movie were entertaining, just showing the theme park as it were a real place.

[ProactiveMan]

Nah, it could sink so much lower... Have you seen the concept art for JP4 that was leaked some time ago?

One word: Dinosauroids :lol:

Hey, speaking of which...

I swear I saw that man/dinosaur hybrid concept painting on one of the monitors in the genetics lab at the end.

[Allio]

Hey, speaking of which...

I swear I saw that man/dinosaur hybrid concept painting on one of the monitors in the genetics lab at the end.

it probably wouldn't surprise me, after all they were wanting to weaponize the dinosaurs

[NinjaPug]

I'm surprised it took them this long to announce a sequel


‘Jurassic World’ Sequel to Hit Theaters in 2018

JULY 23, 2015 | 11:43AM PT

After the smash success of “Jurassic World,” Universal has dated a sequel for June 22, 2018.

Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard will return to star in the film, which Steven Spielberg will exec produce through his Amblin Entertainment banner.

Colin Trevorrow, who directed “Jurassic World,” will co-write the screenplay with Derek Connolly.

On Wednesday, “Jurassic World” became the No. 3 top-grossing film of all-time, surpassing “The Avengers” with a monster $1.52 billion in ticket sales.

It has one remaining territory left to open — Japan, where it debuts on Aug. 5.



http://variety.com/2015/film/news/jurassic-world-sequel-to-hit-theaters-in-2018-1201547139/

[sdp]

It was inevitable with the B.O. hit that this movie was...I'm a little worried though, I just hope they don't go full military dinos or dinosaurs on the mainland, those concepts could go bad really quickly. I'm also not too happy with Pratt becoming the face of the franchise.. I liked his character but this is about Dinosaurs not Chris Pratt: Dinosaur Hunter.. Being a huge JP fan I'm cautiously excited.

[TigerClaw]

I'm surprised it took them this long to announce a sequel



http://variety.com/2015/film/news/jurassic-world-sequel-to-hit-theaters-in-2018-1201547139/
It was bound to happen, I wonder who they will get to direct it since Colin Trevorrow is only writing it.

[NinjaPug]

Where do you take her Howard's character in the sequel?

Should she be charged for unleashing all that mayhem on the public? I would imagine she would have a bunch of lawsuits brought her way from the families that lost people at the park.

[CyberCubed]

2018? Those two brothers will be all grown up by then

[sdp]

Where do you take her Howard's character in the sequel?

Should she be charged for unleashing all that mayhem on the public? I would imagine she would have a bunch of lawsuits brought her way from the families that lost people at the park.
Well she wasn't the president of Masrani Global nor head of Ingen. While she ran Jurassic World she didn't have control over many aspects, mostly sales and attendance.
I just hope she isn't shoehorned into the plot. She is no action hero, at least Pratt's character used to be a marine.

2018? Those two brothers will be all grown up by then
Why would the brothers be in the sequel? They won't.

[NinjaPug]

Well she wasn't the president of Masrani Global nor head of Ingen. While she ran Jurassic World she didn't have control over many aspects, mostly sales and attendance.
I just hope she isn't shoehorned into the plot. She is no action hero, at least Pratt's character used to be a marine.


Wasn't she the one that decided the I-Rex needed to be created to boost attendance?

Why would the brothers be in the sequel? They won't.

I MUST KNOW IF THEIR PARENTS GOT DIVORCED.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It was inevitable with the B.O. hit that this movie was...I'm a little worried though, I just hope they don't go full military dinos or dinosaurs on the mainland, those concepts could go bad really quickly. I'm also not too happy with Pratt becoming the face of the franchise.. I liked his character but this is about Dinosaurs not Chris Pratt: Dinosaur Hunter.. Being a huge JP fan I'm cautiously excited.

Sorry, but CHRIS PRATT: DINOSAUR HUNTER sounds epic to me. :tcool:

I MUST KNOW IF THEIR PARENTS GOT DIVORCED.

I couldn't believe they didn't offer any closure on that at all. Terrible writing. :trolleye:

[sdp]

Sorry, but CHRIS PRATT: DINOSAUR HUNTER sounds epic to me. :tcool:
I couldn't believe they didn't offer any closure on that at all. Terrible writing. :trolleye:
Wasn't she the one that decided the I-Rex needed to be created to boost attendance?
I MUST KNOW IF THEIR PARENTS GOT DIVORCED.

Well we already have Turok for Dinosaur Hunting, we don't need Pratt; he isn't Native American.

Why would they offer a resolution on that? Their parents are getting divorced, the movie was about the two brothers dealing with that. Not to mention that divorce is a re-curing theme in JP. In the first movie they mention the kids parents are going through a divorce. The second movie has Ian's daughter and of course her parents are divorced and the third movie happened because the parents divorced..

You're right about her being somewhat responsible, it'd be cool if they dealt with the direct aftermath of JW but I somehow doubt they will. It will be handwaved like it was in TLW.

[NinjaPug]

I was totally joking about the divorce. Guess I wasn't being obvious enough.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was totally joking about the divorce. Guess I wasn't being obvious enough.

Still bad writing to leave that plot thread hanging and open-ended.

[NinjaPug]

Still bad writing to leave that plot thread hanging and open-ended.

No argument here. Everything about that storyline was useless.

[sdp]

It was obvious, I was replying to Cylon, and again it's not a plot threat. The kids parents are getting a divorce, end of story. Did you want a "oh no now that they almost died I know that I truly love you and forgive everything that separated us?" Give me a break.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It was obvious, I was replying to Cylon, and again it's not a plot threat. The kids parents are getting a divorce, end of story. Did you want a "oh no now that they almost died I know that I truly love you and forgive everything that separated us?" Give me a break.

Considering that's exactly what Jurassic Park 3 did, yes, I was expecting them to either A. reunite the parents, or B. deliberately NOT reunite the parents. C. leaving it ambiguous was lazy and poor writing.