Bebop & Rocksteady (Sequel Voice Actors)

[J.D.]

I don't know how much of this is true but i found out on Wikipedia that Timothy Spall will be voicing Rocksteady and Ice Cube will be voicing Bebop in TMNT sequel...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop_and_Rocksteady

[Powder]

"I found out on Wikipedia-" Immediately lost all credibility.

[Gunpowder]

Probably not true. Though I could see Ice Cube as Bebop. (Spall as Rocksteady? Not likely...)

[Autbot_Benz]

I don't know how much of this is true but i found out on Wikipedia that Timothy Spall will be voicing Rocksteady and Ice Cube will be voicing Bebop in TMNT sequel...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop_and_Rocksteady

Don't believe anything you read on wikipedia

[nellyp]

until it shows up on something like IMDB for the official page for the movie I wouldn't put much stock in it

[Powder]

IMDB is no more credible than Wikipedia, as both can be freely edited by any 'ol idiot.

[AquaParade]

Wiki--reference is hilarious, though I can imagine Vanilla Ice doing the voice for Bebop.

[prophecy718]

Stopped reading when you said Wikipedia

You can't be serious with that lol...

[Bloodsucker]

Hey you
maybe the best thing would be for young actors to be the voices for the 2nd part.

I think it would be good if we had a MMA fighters doing the voices and the stunt part, so that it is all one person, because then it will be more like real life.
There should be more grappleing fighting like true martial arts. test of a MAN!

[cryan]

Ice Cube as Bebop I can see. Though I would like Patrick Walberton as Rocksteady.

[ranger_scout]

It would be great if they got Cam Clarke and Barry Gordon to reprise the roles, though I doubt that would happen.

[Bloodsucker]

It would be great if they got Cam Clarke and Barry Gordon to reprise the roles, though I doubt that would happen.

They are some okay people, but why not put in some serious fighting experst?
I think like Jonathan Koppenhaver (he is called War machine on the MMA) could be the pig Bebop, and the Demetrious Johnson would be better for rocksteady.

it could be crazy fights and trueguys voice just like the comics!

[DarkFell]

It would be great if they got Cam Clarke and Barry Gordon to reprise the roles, though I doubt that would happen.
I'd like for that to happen as well, but as you mentioned Gordon and Clarke might not be up to voicing B & R.
Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Some people here in this thread mentioned Ice Cube might voice Bebop. I'm down with that should it happen.

[Bloodsucker]

I'd like for that to happen as well, but Gordon and Clarke might not be up to voicing B & R.
Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Some people here in this thread mentioned Ice Cube to voice Bebop. I'm down with that should it happen.

But you like my idea too. it's a better one. :):):):):):):)

[DarkFell]

But you like my idea too. it's a better one. :):):):):):):)
I need to rewatch Iron Man 2 again because I barely remember what War Machine sounded like. But I somewhat remember me liking the actor.

So, you got me dead to rights.

[Bloodsucker]

I need to rewatch Iron Man 2 again because I barely remember what War Machine sounded like. But I somewhat remember me liking the actor.

So, you got me dead to rights.

yeah, the war machine. they are putting him in the jail house but maybe they let him out to make the movie.

I know broseph! it could be so cool to have the true fights to make the voices.

[chrisdude]

War Machine is in jail for attempted murder, and he just tried to hang himself in his cell. Prolly not up to it.

If they do use Bebop and Rocksteady, I hope their beast, and not just idiots.
http://i.imgur.com/VzwmQfI.jpg
Nine or ten feet tall to tower over the turtles. Maybe Bebop can throw a car like in OT.

[Autbot_Benz]

he means War Machine the Iron Man suit not War Machine the MMA fighter who beat his ex porn star gf within an inch of her life.

War Machine was played by Don Cheadle.

[Commenter 42]

yeah, the war machine. they are putting him in the jail house but maybe they let him out to make the movie.

I know broseph! it could be so cool to have the true fights to make the voices.

I don't even know where to start...

[chrisdude]

he means War Machine the Iron Man suit not War Machine the MMA fighter who beat his ex porn star gf within an inch of her life.

War Machine was played by Don Cheadle.Bloodsucker means the fighter. Everyone else is confused.

[Coola Yagami]

War Machine is in jail for attempted murder, and he just tried to hang himself in his cell. Prolly not up to it.

If they do use Bebop and Rocksteady, I hope their beast, and not just idiots.
http://i.imgur.com/VzwmQfI.jpg
Nine or ten feet tall to tower over the turtles. Maybe Bebop can throw a car like in OT.

Big deal. Raph can just bitchslap that car out of the air and throw a trailer back at him.

[chrisdude]

Big deal. Raph can just bitchslap that car out of the air and throw a trailer back at him.You mean a fight? Hmm...

(C'mon. Raph's not that strong. Preview clips show that the turtles were working together on the docks, anyway. Even in the final cut, there's proof he was alone.)

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I just feel like this idea of Raph throwing shipping containers gets brought up too much.

[CharmedSerenity]

you are msking me so sad everyone. Not Troll please I try with english. it is hard. I am better at reading it that this writing and I am trying. excuse my english. also i tell before that I am a girl not a guy please people why

Can I ask what country you come from? I'm getting the impression English isn't your first language.

[Bloodsucker]

Can I ask what country you come from? I'm getting the impression English isn't your first language.

Brasil. In English is Brazil but I live in very small city. I will not say because this is the internet and it isnot safe

[Coola Yagami]

You mean a fight? Hmm...

(C'mon. Raph's not that strong. Preview clips show that the turtles were working together on the docks, anyway. Even in the final cut, there's proof he was alone.)

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I just feel like this idea of Raph throwing shipping containers gets brought up too much.

Gets brought up a lot cause it happened. That and raph bring able to overturn a humvee by getting slammed into it after his shell was cracked and them being basically bullet proof. The turtles aren't supposed to have super powers. That's where the ninja training comes into play to begin with.

[chrisdude]

I think Donnie pushed the crate with his bo.

[THGhost]

Trust me, IMDB is a lot more trustworthy than Wikipedia; editing on IMDB is not as easy as people make it out to be.

But yeah, until something is officially announced, we can ignore anything about the sequel from Wikipedia. :P

[Commenter 42]

Voice actors For R&B

Bebop: Dre or Snoop
Rocksteady: Eminem

That would be ridiculously awesome.

[Tora]

Jamal Duff for Bebop and William DeMeo for Rocksteady. Yeah they are way obscure but I could see them in those roles.

[Ninjinister]

Trust me, IMDB is a lot more trustworthy than Wikipedia; editing on IMDB is not as easy as people make it out to be.

But yeah, until something is officially announced, we can ignore anything about the sequel from Wikipedia. :P

I wouldn't say it is at all. Before the 2012 series actors were announced, Kevin Michael Richardson was tagged on there as playing Hun. Before the 2014 film's actors were announced, they had all of the Turtles from the 2012 as reprising their roles. That one was on there for MONTHS.

And outside of Turtles, I've seen things like David Boreanaz playing Angel in X-Men 3, plus saying that Heihachi Mishima and Leon Kennedy were in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Mega Man as being in Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

[DonatelloDomeHead31]

Voice actors for Bebop and Rocksteady might be a tough choice...Ice Cube is a good choice for Bebop & Rocksteady...well can't think of any at the moment.

I'm more curious about their appearances. I know it's far away but will they look somewhat close to their 1987 cartoon appearances or a new look entirely?

[neatoman]

So maybe someone is going to call heresy on this one, but I think they will most likely start out as animals in this version. You know, to keep consistency with the mutant animals from the first movie, it would probably open a can of worms for the general audience if the mutagen started to turn humans into animals.

Something people will definitely call heresy.I kind of hope that instead of humanoids, they're disgusting monstrosities, like giant quadrupeds with odd anatomies. Yeah I like the IDW version of them and this monster approach would be a bastardisation, but c'mon, they're not very engaging characters to begin with.

As for who should voice them? Frank Welker.

[Bloodsucker]

So maybe someone is going to call heresy on this one, but I think they will most likely start out as animals in this version. You know, to keep consistency with the mutant animals from the first movie, it would probably open a can of worms for the general audience if the mutagen started to turn humans into animals.

Something people will definitely call heresy.I kind of hope that instead of humanoids, they're disgusting monstrosities, like giant quadrupeds with odd anatomies. Yeah I like the IDW version of them and this monster approach would be a bastardisation, but c'mon, they're not very engaging characters to begin with.

As for who should voice them? Frank Welker.

HOW IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? You actually want to watch the Hulking muscle turtles fight an ugly, giant warthog?

I called heresy and they said your real name is Michael Bay.

[neatoman]

HOW IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? You actually want to watch the Hulking muscle turtles fight an ugly, giant warthog?

I called heresy and they said your real name is Michael Bay.

Eh c'mon, a Twilight Princess style Ganon version of Bebop would kinda cool in comparison to lifting the "Duh, let's watch TV and eat candies before the boss catches us Rocksteady" potrayal from the cartoon.

Honestly I found the old Bebop and Rocksteady to just be annoying, with a little experimenting they could actually be a bit cool.

[ToTheNines]

Patrick Warburton as Rocksteady, Brad Garrett as Bebop.

[Bloodsucker]

Eh c'mon, a Twilight Princess style Ganon version of Bebop would kinda cool in comparison to lifting the "Duh, let's watch TV and eat candies before the boss catches us Rocksteady" potrayal from the cartoon.

Honestly I found the old Bebop and Rocksteady to just be annoying, with a little experimenting they could actually be a bit cool.

Yes, they can be cool if you take the characters and make them cool.

What you suggest is just as annoying. You want them to get your ideas?
Don't feed the Hollywood trolls dudester.

[Powder]

Patrick Warburton as Rocksteady, Brad Garrett as Bebop.

Interesting choices. Loooooove the idea of Garrett but Warburton seems sort of an odd pick, unless he kept it real gravelly & voiced him in a lower register. Of course whether or not they work depends on the designs, but BG would be awesome no matter what, prolly!

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

They should introduce mixing humans with the animals in the sequel. It would take years for the animals to fully grow. If they start mixing people and animals they can be fully grown mutants right away.

I loved Rampage Jackson's version of B.A. Baracus, and I like the idea of having MMA fighters who can act cast as these characters. I don't think they can do the same mo cap w/ Rocksteady, but whoever is Bebop should be able to have mo cap. So I would pick Rampage as BeBop, and for the mocap Brock Lesnar as Rocksteady, and Domenick Lombardozzi as the voice.

I don't think they need to sound like the cartoon's version of them either, so It's more about believability in them being badasses. And I hope they aren't funny and dumb, I hope they are very serious threats to the city and the turtles.

[neatoman]

They should introduce mixing humans with the animals in the sequel. It would take years for the animals to fully grow. If they start mixing people and animals they can be fully grown mutants right away.

They could have been working on them for years, the ooze did come from TCRI rather than Sacks industries did it not? Who's to say someone other than Sacks haven't been working on mutants in secret?

[THGhost]

Interesting choices. Loooooove the idea of Garrett but Warburton seems sort of an odd pick, unless he kept it real gravelly & voiced him in a lower register. Of course whether or not they work depends on the designs, but BG would be awesome no matter what, prolly!

Warburton's voice is already pretty low, but I agree about him needing to keep it gravelly. I think he could pull off a few more registers though.

[shuriken]

Tiny Lister as Bebop
Rocksteady would be tougher, maybe like John DImmaggio er something. In My mind he always had a more dimwitted voice than Bebop, who always sounded like more of a badass to me. meh

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Tiny Lister as Bebop
Rocksteady would be tougher, maybe like John DImmaggio er something. In My mind he always had a more dimwitted voice than Bebop, who always sounded like more of a badass to me. meh

Tiny Lister is PERFECT.

[Leo656]

Zeus does need the cash, last I heard. :lol:

[B-Man]

My choices, which I could see realistically happening:

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/benman011/BebopampRocksteady.jpg

Jemaine Clement has a deep voice & is incredibly talented vocally (Flight Of The Conchords, Men In Black 3, Rio) and Danny McBride would fit Rocksteady like a glove. I'm one of the few who thought Knoxville's voice was the only thing that lent Leo any real presence in the new movie, so I'd love to see some similar casting with suprising results.

[Metalwolf]

"I found out on Wikipedia-" Immediately lost all credibility.Erm.. Don't ever people check the source anymore that Wiki often lists as to where they got their information? :roll:

http://screenrant.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2014-movie-bebop-rocksteady-casey-jones/

[Powder]

What point are you trying to make by posting that? I never doubted the inclusion of these characters, it came directly from Liebesman's mouth at comic con. The information that's BS, is who would allegedly play them. Pay attention, pal.

:trolleye:

[Commenter 42]

I'm one of the few who thought Knoxville's voice was the only thing that lent Leo any real presence in the new movie.

Because a mutant turtle from New York should speak with a southern-drawl?
Might be why you're in the minority.

Bebop is black. Stop white washing every character.

Signed,
The entire Internet.

[Leo656]

You're such a bitch. I love it.

[Commenter 42]

You're such a bitch. I love it.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Somebody needs to welcome the new recruits.

[B-Man]

Nah, bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be.
It's a voice we're talking about. Race doesn't matter. Especially when we're talking about a character who is a talking rhino lol
Besides, Eminem would never touch a Nickelodeon production & if Dre was cast, they'd turn Rocksteady into a hip-hop stereotype.

[Commenter 42]

Nah, bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be.
It's a voice we're talking about. Race doesn't matter. Especially when we're talking about a character who is a talking rhino lol
Besides, Eminem would never touch a Nickelodeon production & if Dre was cast, they'd turn Rocksteady into a hip-hop stereotype.

LOL!

Good thing you know who is who!
Pretty sure a real fan wouldn't mix them up.

BEBOP is black, Rocksteady is white.

You failed the test bub.

[jestermon]

Stopped reading when you said Wikipedia

You can't be serious with that lol...

It's about as serious as anything else you read on the internet about movies, tons of legitimate sources post things incorrectly all the time.

Until the movie is on screen they can change anything, even then they could change things and not have them on the final dvd.

Also, they were street thugs, I don't think they would have much martial arts training aside from street fighting, and minimal shooting skills.

[B-Man]

LOL!

Good thing you know who is who!
Pretty sure a real fan wouldn't mix them up.

BEBOP is black, Rocksteady is white.

You failed the test bub.

Accidently typed the wrong name, relax "bub" (why do online dorks use that term so often? that's a whole other argument). Shalhoub played Splinter. Tom Hardy made Bane an Englishman. Michael B. Jordan is now the Human Torch. Movies rarely stick to the race of their cartoon/comic counterparts anymore & seriously who cares. The only concern is the end result. In my opinion, Clement & McBride would be fun choices. Again, just my opinion (and Clement's a Maori, so I'm not "white washing").

[Leo656]

He calls you "Bub" so you call him "Dork"? Oh yeah, you're gonna do great here.

We're a salty bunch, hepcat. Try and roll with the jabs a little more if you wanna make friends. Just a nickel's worth of free advice.

[B-Man]

I've just seen "bub" used as a retort so many times now it seems dorky to me. But anyways, yeah fair enough. I was under the impression this place was different & free of snarky, IMDb-nonsense but I can be "salty" too if (apparently) I have to be lol

[Leo656]

Oh god.

Oh, my my my.

....THIS place?

Free of snark.

Brother, did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque. :tlol:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but apparently this place is the Tenth Circle of TMNT Forums. I don't go on other forums, but I hear that's the rumor. It's fine, just don't take anybody seriously and nobody gets hurt.

[B-Man]

Hahaha all good :tsmile:

[Commenter 42]

Accidently typed the wrong name, relax "bub" (why do online dorks use that term so often? that's a whole other argument). Shalhoub played Splinter. Tom Hardy made Bane an Englishman. Michael B. Jordan is now the Human Torch. Movies rarely stick to the race of their cartoon/comic counterparts anymore & seriously who cares. The only concern is the end result. In my opinion, Clement & McBride would be fun choices. Again, just my opinion (and Clement's a Maori, so I'm not "white washing").

Who uses the word Dork in 2014?

I also absolutely love it when you back up your terrible casting choice, with other notoriously bad choices. Well done Sweetie.

Your argument is tired, redundant, and boring.

Either you make a TMNT film, and cast it correctly, or make another movie and come up with your own title.

If you don't think it's important, go have a chat with Cybercubed about Fichtner as Shredder.

Just don't bring up the nostrils...
Or do...actually, yeah, do that.

[B-Man]

You say the argument's tired & boring yet you're still adding to it lol relax dude.

[Commenter 42]

You say the argument's tired & boring yet you're still adding to it lol relax dude.

Look, it's like this:

We just sat through a god-awful TMNT experience. Some chowder head just made millions servicing the lowest common denominator at the box office.
We almost had aliens, and a White Shredder. Online retaliation forced their hand, but in the end it became "Shrek's sleigh-ride down the hillside; and other silliness." Many of us do not want a repeat of that.

I'm all for debates, but for the love of humanity, be reasonable Clyde!
Now is not a great time to posit wacky casting choices.

Good actors, sure, but there's better suggestions out there.

And LOL, listen, LOL seriously....

We're fanatics, or at least I am. Which means I'm crazy for the details, and maybe just plain crazy.

I'm crazy enough to think that the fans have paid more than enough money, over the last 30 years, to have earned 1, at least one solid, faithful TMNT film.

[B-Man]

I get ya dude :) I thought you were just being a hater for the sake of being a hater (there's a lot of those out there) but your disappointment with this movie is clearly genuine. I feel bad for anyone who dislikes it cause I'd effin' HATE to be in that same boat. I've been a Turtles fan since seeing the 1990 movie in theaters when I was 4 years old. I've followed them my whole life. Yet I love the new movie. If I walked out of that movie angry a few months ago, it'd sour everything to do with Ninja Turtles & make me feel it's time to grow up, move on & leave them behind.
But I went to the late night showing on IMAX and with my jacket draped over me like a blanket, I felt like a kid again in bed watching the original on VHS repeatedly. Turtles III. Coming Out Of Our Shells. Next Mutation. This has never been a perfect franchise. I have my complaints with the 2014 movie but as the past shows; it could be so much worse. I enjoyed seeing Leo, Mikey, Donnie & Raph on the big-screen again so much that any complaints I have feel petty.
I figured there were a bunch of fans with the same perspective but apparently no. This really seems to be 'The Phantom Menace' with a lot of peeps. And that makes me sad cause I really doubt the sequel is gonna fix it's problems. The next script won't all of a sudden be full of depth & character development. Megan Fox is still gonna be in the center of it all. And we'll probably see even less of the Turtles next time what with additional characters added.

[TrickOrTreater]

Shalhoub played Splinter. Tom Hardy made Bane an Englishman. Michael B. Jordan is now the Human Torch.

It's a problem because, other than MBJ as Johnny Storm, it takes away roles from the ethnicities the characters originally were. Plenty of roles for white people, so changing the a character who was white to something else isn't AS big a deal as the reverse.

If Splinter was Hamato Yoshi, i.e. if this production gave a sh*t about the source material, he should have been played by a Japanese man.

Bane should have been played by a hispanic man since Bane is South American.

Representation matters and there too many non-white roles going to white people.

Movies rarely stick to the race of their cartoon/comic counterparts anymore & seriously who cares. The only concern is the end result.

Spoken like a true white dude.

I really don't f*cking get this. I really don't get this mentality. "Oh it doesn't matter if it's faithful long as it's good hyuk hyuk!"

They're not mutually exclusive. They can be both faithful AND good.

Christ on a cracker.

[Commenter 42]

It's a problem because, other than MBJ as Johnny Storm, it takes away roles from the ethnicities the characters originally were. Plenty of roles for white people, so changing the a character who was white to something else isn't AS big a deal as the reverse.

If Splinter was Hamato Yoshi, i.e. if this production gave a sh*t about the source material, he should have been played by a Japanese man.

Bane should have been played by a hispanic man since Bane is South American.

Representation matters and there too many non-white roles going to white people.



Spoken like a true white dude.

I really don't f*cking get this. I really don't get this mentality. "Oh it doesn't matter if it's faithful long as it's good hyuk hyuk!"

They're not mutually exclusive. They can be both faithful AND good.

Christ on a cracker.

Thank you.

I didn't want to go there, but I'm really glad you did.
This is what I meant by a tired argument.
It goes both ways, and always ends in flames.

I'm not keen on the double standard, and think a character should be played as written in the source. We had this debate, over April, and in one ridiculous thread, over Casey Jones.

Representation is also incredibly important, as are the implications for a character as a result of their specific race. It shouldn't matter, that we have a Black President, a White president, Latino, or Asian. Male or Female. BUT societal pressure will ensure, currently, that it does. Why? Because people suck.

So the Characters are shaped, in part, by how they interrelate.

One could argue that the Turtles themselves are an extreme of this. The ultimate minorities. They can't vote, they aren't covered by the constitution, they live in our waste. The story could be told with four humans as sewer dwellers, and sure, it could still technically work. But it's their extreme segregation from humans that drives the story, and thus shapes who they are.

In a perfect world, race would mean nothing, or better, be celebrated. We would all hold hands and sing kumbaya. And in some stories, that might just be the case.

TMNT is not one of those stories.

Bebop is Black, one of a handful of black Characters in the anthology. Baxter Stockman, is BLACK. Making him white, would change his character.

Point is, it matters.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Yep. I don't care if you chance the ethnicities of minor characters (Spectacular Spider-Man, for instance, had a wonderfully diverse cast simply by utilizing lots of high school characters from the early issues and improving their character) but it's a bit worrying if you're changing the physical traits of more prominent characters for the sake of change.

That's why I'm glad Donald Glover wasn't chosen to be Peter Parker for The Amazing Spider-Man. I'm sure he's a great actor and would have done a good job, but that just wouldn't have been Peter Parker to me. Likewise, I can't imagine Rhodey or Robbie Robertson being played by a white man. And I can't imagine Shredder being played by anyone not of Japanese descent (Bay apparently could though when he cast Will Fichtner). Again, Fichtner's a great actor, but he just wouldn't feel like the Shredder to me.

[B-Man]

Look, as I said the other day (yet this is still dragging out), in my harmless opinion, Jemaine Clement would make a fun Bebop. If you're saying Clement shouldn't even be a consideration because he's Maori and an not African American, as a Maori myself, I find that truly offensive. All these rants of racial misrepresentation, when at the end of the day you're boiling it all down to "white should be white / black should be black - The End". It's fictional characters we're talking about here. I predict the next James Bond after Daniel Craig will be black. That would be awesome (Idris Elba in particular). I get it, a black Peter Parker wouldn't feel like Peter Parker - initially. To shut down that very concept immediately is the exact discrimination you're preaching against.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I predict the next James Bond after Daniel Craig will be black. That would be awesome (Idris Elba in particular).

That'd actually be a cool idea, as even now no two Bonds are alike. It'd certainly add credence to the theory that 007 and James Bond are code names given to a series of agents over time.

[Bloodsucker]

I get it, a black Peter Parker wouldn't feel like Peter Parker - initially. To shut down that very concept immediately is the exact discrimination you're preaching against.

So, A black actor loses the role because it's racist to cast a black actor to play a black character, and instead we cast a Maori actor because you think it's offensive if we don't? Because you're Maori?

I'm Brasilian, and I have an accent. Can I be Batman? I'm also a girl.

[slashpieturtlemix]

So, A black actor loses the role because it's racist to cast a black actor to play a black character, and instead we cast a Maori actor because you think it's offensive if we don't? Because you're Maori?

I'm Brasilian, and I have an accent. Can I be Batman? I'm also a girl.

I would listen to you as Batman. That would be awesome!

[B-Man]

So, A black actor loses the role because it's racist to cast a black actor to play a black character, and instead we cast a Maori actor because you think it's offensive if we don't? Because you're Maori?

I'm Brasilian, and I have an accent. Can I be Batman? I'm also a girl.

Way to miss my point entirely... But sure you can be Batman!

[Bloodsucker]

I would listen to you as Batman. That would be awesome!

I'd make a great Batman. You should be Batman too. Let's both be Batman.

[DarkFell]

I would listen to you as Batman. That would be awesome!

Sorry kids. Carrey says HE'S BATMAN.
A_u2PMzFIYM

[Bloodsucker]

Way to miss my point entirely... But sure you can be Batman!

Want to be Batman with us?

You can be Sexy Batman.
C1X0Z-Sn7Zs

[B-Man]

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/benman011/B1.jpg

I'm Batman! (though I look like a bit of a wanker lol)

[Bloodsucker]

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/benman011/B1.jpg

I'm Batman! (though I look like a bit of a wanker lol)

That is not you! That's Batfleck!

[B-Man]

Hahaha its me trying to be Batfleck :P

[Bloodsucker]

Hahaha its me trying to be Batfleck :P

No, that's hot.
So you're a dumb cute guy then. Okay, I understand.

[B-Man]

No, that's hot.
So you're a dumb cute guy then. Okay, I understand.

Cheers lol

[TrickOrTreater]

Look, as I said the other day (yet this is still dragging out), in my harmless opinion, Jemaine Clement would make a fun Bebop. If you're saying Clement shouldn't even be a consideration because he's Maori and an not African American, as a Maori myself, I find that truly offensive. All these rants of racial misrepresentation, when at the end of the day you're boiling it all down to "white should be white / black should be black - The End". It's fictional characters we're talking about here. I predict the next James Bond after Daniel Craig will be black. That would be awesome (Idris Elba in particular). I get it, a black Peter Parker wouldn't feel like Peter Parker - initially. To shut down that very concept immediately is the exact discrimination you're preaching against.

So you'd be totally fine with a white Black Panther.

Gotcha.

[Commenter 42]

So you'd be totally fine with a white Black Panther.

Gotcha.

Correction: He'd be okay with a Maori Black Panther.

Keep it straight.

[shuriken]

My choices, which I could see realistically happening:

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/benman011/BebopampRocksteady.jpg

Jemaine Clement has a deep voice & is incredibly talented vocally (Flight Of The Conchords, Men In Black 3, Rio) and Danny McBride would fit Rocksteady like a glove. I'm one of the few who thought Knoxville's voice was the only thing that lent Leo any real presence in the new movie, so I'd love to see some similar casting with suprising results.

I want Tiny as Bebop. But I whole heartedly agree with Danny McBride holy s**t.

[THGhost]

Danny McBride as Rocksteady is definitely right on the money.

[B-Man]

"So you'd be totally fine with a white Black Panther."

hahaha now it's getting silly. Get over it, fellas.

"Danny McBride as Rocksteady is definitely right on the money."

It seems realistic right? He'd fit the part AND I can see it actually happening. Can totally picture going on IMDb one day and seeing on the main page 'Danny McBride Joins Ninja Turtles Sequel'. Ice Cube seems a realistic possibility too. They'd be great together. I bet ya at least one of us has made a correct prediction. I'm excited to find out who winds up being Bebop & Rocksteady :tgrin:

[Leo656]

Tenacious D. F*ck it.

:tgrin:

[Commenter 42]

Tenacious D. F*ck it.

:tgrin:

YOU ****ing WIN THE DAY!!!!!!!

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[Leo656]

:tlol: I came. Like, SO hard.

[Commenter 42]

:tlol: I came. Like, SO hard.

That's the one two punch right there.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[TrickOrTreater]

"So you'd be totally fine with a white Black Panther."

hahaha now it's getting silly. Get over it, fellas.

That's a yes.

[B-Man]

It's a no, and your trolling is past a joke. Go do something about yourself lol

[Powder]

Your new years resolution: Try to make a post without saying "lol". :tlol:

[TrickOrTreater]

It's a no, and your trolling is past a joke. Go do something about yourself lol

Oh I'm not trolling in the least bit, sparky. Dead serious.

Your new years resolution: Try to make a post without saying "lol". :tlol:

lol

[Bloodsucker]

It's a no, and your trolling is past a joke. Go do something about yourself lol

Hey B-Man, did you Photoshop the avatar you have?
You do Graphics designing? I need an avatar please!

[B-Man]

Hey B-Man, did you Photoshop the avatar you have?
You do Graphics designing? I need an avatar please!

Sure. I'm not that good at photoshop but PM me a photo & I'll give it a go :)

[Bloodsucker]

Sure. I'm not that good at photoshop but PM me a photo & I'll give it a go :)

I'll let you decide. I don't have any good ideas.

[B-Man]

Wait, did you want me to alter a photo of yourself (as I photoshopped katanas on my back) or do you just want a pic of... anything? Cause you don't need me for that :lol:

[Bloodsucker]

Wait, did you want me to alter a photo of yourself (as I photoshopped katanas on my back) or do you just want a pic of... anything? Cause you don't need me for that :lol:

I thought you did graphics design? I want it to be special.

[shuriken]

Tenacious D. F*ck it.

:tgrin:

I...can't. I just can't see that working without them breaking into song.

[Bloodsucker]

I...can't. I just can't see that working without them breaking into song.

OKAY! FINE! It's just Eddie Murphy then.

[Leo656]

I...can't. I just can't see that working without them breaking into song.

How could that be any worse than what they're inevitably planning to do? :lol:

Entire movie series is gonna be a train wreck until someone else gets the rights. What good is a train wreck if it isn't Burning Spectacularly? :tgrin:

[Commenter 42]

OKAY! FINE! It's just Eddie Murphy then.

... :x ... :ohwell: ... :x ... :-? ... :mango:
How could that be any worse than what they're inevitably planning to do? :lol:

Entire movie series is gonna be a train wreck until someone else gets the rights. What good is a train wreck if it isn't Burning Spectacularly? :tgrin:

Jack played Rocksteady already didn't he?

http://pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/marsattacksjackblack500.jpg
http://youngheroteams.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/pre-mutation.png

[DarkFell]

... :x ... :ohwell: ... :x ... :-? ... :mango:


Jack played Rocksteady already didn't he?

http://pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/marsattacksjackblack500.jpg
http://youngheroteams.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/pre-mutation.png
Maybe Jack can play Rocky yet again time and age permitting. ;p

Y'know, I still haven't seen the first Bay TMNT movie yet. I wonder if introducing B & R and possibly Casey Jones into the sequel fray will result in a good second movie because all I keep seeing is lots of nopes in this forum.

*edit - saw that cry emote but I ain't sad at all. But I hate using my phone to respond in the forum because it tends to get buggy and scrolling down can be a pain at times.

[Commenter 42]

:cry:
Maybe Jack can play Rocky yet again time and age permitting. ;p

Y'know, I still haven't seen the first Bay TMNT movie yet. I wonder if introducting B & R and possibly Casey Jones into the sequel fray will result in a good second movie because all I keep seeing is lots of nopes in this forum.

Theres a quote in Tropic Thunder that just might answer your question.

I would use it here, but some people might be offended.

[Powder]

:cry:
Maybe Jack can play Rocky yet again time and age permitting. ;p

Y'know, I still haven't seen the first Bay TMNT movie yet. I wonder if introducing B & R and possibly Casey Jones into the sequel fray will result in a good second movie because all I keep seeing is lots of nopes in this forum.

The sequel would have much potential for improvement (given they would hopefully have learned some things & not have to do the whole rewrite/cut fiasco) if it DIDN'T introduce those 3 new characters. As it is, we never got to know the turtles or see much of them interacting. If you're a big TMNT fan, you already know them, but if this was your first real exposure to them, you only know what you can see on the surface, in the designs. "Oh, that one must be the geek, he's got glasses." They don't show him studying, working on any projects. Raph doesn't go blow off steam or work-out, you get the idea. No emotional moments with any of them accept a tacked on speech from Raph where he apologizes for things he never did on screen. The whole flick focused on April, yet we hardly know anything about her, either, besides her being defined by her job & catching flies with that ever-open mouth of hers. Throwing 3 more characters into an already overloaded flick is baaaad move. Karai & Sacks were already unnecessary additions, folks we saw very little of that wouldn't have had any major effect on the film had they been removed altogether. If the new joint is gonna waste time on 3 extra origins/fights/whatever, you can kiss the turtles goodbye altogether. They're guests in their own movie(s). In some way it might be cool to have such "beloved" characters but their inclusion isn't gonna help with the poorly written dialogue & other MAJOR flaws the first one had. New writers would. Maybe. Even then, they're under the thumb of a staff that hates depth & creativity, wanting only macho crap & explosions. Casey's prolly gonna be some roided out moron with a chubby for Miss O'neil.

[DarkFell]

Theres a quote in Tropic Thunder that just might answer your question.

I would use it here, but some people might be offended.

I so need to get that Tropic Thunder movie. Some of the quotes that I read from the movie are just tops. Thanks for referring the movie.

[Commenter 42]

If the new joint is gonna waste time on 3 extra origins/fights/whatever, you can kiss the turtles goodbye altogether. They're guests in their own movie(s).

I don't know if you've watched the Transformers Quadrilogy, but in films like these, origins are foregone in place of human moments that have little to nothing to do with the title characters.

I'd lay money on the fact that the sequel will not explore anything about B&R; instead, it will be a single line "Bebop, Rocksteady, get them!!!" and a fight ensues.

Then five minutes of April doing something insipid. rinse. repeat.

Casey Jones on the other hand, very likely it's the April/Casey show for 2/3rds of the film.

I so need to get that Tropic Thunder movie. Some of the quotes that I read from the movie are just tops. Thanks for referring the movie.

Yeah, it's a very quotable film.

[Powder]

I don't know if you've watched the Transformers Quadrilogy, but in films like these, origins are foregone in place of human moments that have little to nothing to do with the title characters.


I'm not a Transformers fan in the slightest (Well, I liked Beast Wars a lot as a kid) so no, I never bothered to watch them. Either way, time spent on new characters, be it origins or fights or a dance-off, is less time spent on turtles, so I stand by my saying it doesn't bode well.

[Commenter 42]

I'm not a Transformers fan in the slightest (Well, I liked Beast Wars a lot as a kid) so no, I never bothered to watch them. Either way, time spent on new characters, be it origins or fights or a dance-off, is less time spent on turtles, so I stand by my saying it doesn't bode well.

Not arguing that. I just think they'll spend even less time developing characters.

I'll never understand it myself.

[THGhost]

It's a yes from me for Tenacious D. :P

Your new years resolution: Try to make a post without saying "lol". :tlol:

Lol, that's funny. Lol lol lol. :lol: ;)

[Leo656]

Casey Jones on the other hand, very likely it's the April/Casey show for 2/3rds of the film.


You just know they'll have a "funny" little scene of Casey "staking his claim" to April and putting Vernon in his place, like, 5 seconds after he meets the two of them for the first time. Then every time they're on screen together we'll see them trying to out-macho each other while April rolls her eyes but does nothing else to discourage it. Put Mikey back in the mix, and I have a feeling an uncomfortable amount of dialogue is going to be based around April's ass.

And like Powder said, adding a bunch of new characters with the exact same runtime, plus this crew's general apathy for character development, and we're looking at (another) movie full of rapid cuts and rapid-fire one-liners (that aren't actually funny) but absolutely nothing substantial by way of plot or getting to know each or any characters. Everyone's going to be even more one-dimensional than they were before. "Here's Casey; he's a thug, but a good guy. Here's Bebop and Rocksteady. They're stupid." Then right to the smashy-smashy.

I mean, even if you just do the math... it *should* be easy for anyone to see, that the sequel just CAN'T be any good. At all. The foundation is already cracked, and they're trying to build the structure out of warm sh*t. You don't get anything solid from that.

[TrickOrTreater]

You just know they'll have a "funny" little scene of Casey "staking his claim" to April and putting Vernon in his place, like, 5 seconds after he meets the two of them for the first time. Then every time they're on screen together we'll see them trying to out-macho each other while April rolls her eyes but does nothing else to discourage it. Put Mikey back in the mix, and I have a feeling an uncomfortable amount of dialogue is going to be based around April's ass.

And like Powder said, adding a bunch of new characters with the exact same runtime, plus this crew's general apathy for character development, and we're looking at (another) movie full of rapid cuts and rapid-fire one-liners (that aren't actually funny) but absolutely nothing substantial by way of plot or getting to know each or any characters. Everyone's going to be even more one-dimensional than they were before. "Here's Casey; he's a thug, but a good guy. Here's Bebop and Rocksteady. They're stupid." Then right to the smashy-smashy.

I mean, even if you just do the math... it *should* be easy for anyone to see, that the sequel just CAN'T be any good. At all. The foundation is already cracked, and they're trying to build the structure out of warm sh*t. You don't get anything solid from that.

http://i.imgur.com/6f3nOYW.gif?1

God this movie's gonna suck.

And I can almost guarantee we won't see Will Arnett back.

[pennydreadful]

I don't know what's worse - knowing that we're going to get another slapdash suckfest from these clowns, or knowing that we're going to get another dose of months-long, endless, circular bickering on the forums about it (aka, The Great Movie Wars, Part 2)...

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[Leolead]

Jack black for Bebop.

[Bloodsucker]

Jack black for Bebop.

Not a Jack Black because Bebop is black, Jack! Now it seems like we are making the worst choices.

How about we pick the worst cast we can think of. I will start with the worst I can imagine. Will Arnett as the cameraman Vernon. Your turn.

[Powder]

How about we pick the worst cast we can think of. I will start with the worst I can imagine. Will Arnett as the cameraman Vernon. Your turn.

I must admit, I lol'd.

[Raph's Girl]

Rocksteady and Bebop officially confirmed!

http://www.movieweb.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-tmnt-bebop-rocksteady

[TrickOrTreater]

Rocksteady and Bebop officially confirmed!

http://www.movieweb.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-tmnt-bebop-rocksteady

"We can say that Bebop and Rocksteady are in the film, and Casey Jones is a character that we love and we're trying to fit him in as well."

This is cringe-y. "We know YOU love these characters so we're trying to shove them in as hard as possible no matter how much the story might suffer."

[TigerClaw]

Rocksteady and Bebop officially confirmed!

http://www.movieweb.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-tmnt-bebop-rocksteady
That's good news, But I wonder if this sequel will be like The Secret of the Ooze, I recall many many years ago, Bebop and Rocksteady were being considered for that, But they couldn't use them due to licensing issues.

[Galactus]

That's good news, But I wonder if this sequel will be like The Secret of the Ooze, I recall many many years ago, Bebop and Rocksteady were being considered for that, But they couldn't use them due to licensing issues.

Peter and Kevin used what little power they had to keep Bebop and Rocksteady out of the movie.

This is cringe-y. "We know YOU love these characters so we're trying to shove them in as hard as possible no matter how much the story might suffer."

Yeah that's how it comes across.

I've never been chomping at the bit to see Bebop and Rocksteady in a movie. I'm not opposed to them or indeed most Fred Wolf elements it's just a case of how do you pull them of seriously in live action?

With Bebop and Rocksteady specifically they're more important than basic henchmen but less so than one the main villains. It seems something of a waste of time to give these characters an origin as well as budget to bring them to life would be better spent elsewhere for characters which aren't meant to carry a movie.

Also those characters don't lend themselves to ninja action which wouldn't necessarily be a problem if we'd seen the turtles engage in a fair amount of that in the first movie but they lied their asses off about that as there was jack all martial arts stuff in the movie.

[Leo656]

I've honestly always wanted to see Bebop and Rocksteady in a movie, and I maintain there's a way it can easily be done, but I don't trust THESE guys to pull it off satisfactorily.

The problem is, they're looking at these movies as a way to throw in a ton of fan-service stuff, at the expense of story or finding a way for things to flow or link together organically, so even though they come up with some ideas that people kind of do want to see, the execution suffers because it's just being squeezed in "because it has to be there, that's why".

Simply by being something we haven't seen yet in a movie, though, I expect they'll probably be a highlight of the thing. I'm just bummed because they already short-changed the story and the character development in the first one for budget reasons, now they've pretty much doubled their CGI expenses, and that means that if anything, there'll be even LESS attention to story, characters, and dialog, but even more smashy-smashy. Ah well.

[J.D.]

I just hope they will include Krang, if i had to choose between him and BB & RR i would choose him. But IMO they won't use him - the story will rather involve around Ooze which was left at the end of the first movie and that's how BB & RR will be created

[Commenter 42]

I've honestly always wanted to see Bebop and Rocksteady in a movie, and I maintain there's a way it can easily be done, but I don't trust THESE guys to pull it off satisfactorily. ...

I'm just bummed because they already short-changed the story and the character development in the first one for budget reasons, now they've pretty much doubled their CGI expenses, and that means that if anything, there'll be even LESS attention to story, characters, and dialog, but even more smashy-smashy. Ah well.

I'm getting this odd nagging feeling that we might get ... secondary mutations.
Shredder Plus becomes Super Duper Shredder, add in B&R, and Bay's idea of more is better...

8 foot turtles become, 16 foot turtles?

Also, somewhere in the film, they will likely kill Splinter.

[chrisdude]

I'd rather see Krang, but this is still exciting. As powerfully as the turtles are, Rocksteady and Bebop always dwarf them. It could be really fun to see the turtles take on giant monsters" the big screen.

[Pondslider]

This is cringe-y. "We know YOU love these characters so we're trying to shove them in as hard as possible no matter how much the story might suffer."

Hahaha. Story. Shoving **** in they think people will like IS the story. They'll probably start filming with barely more than that to go on.
I'd rather see Krang, but this is still exciting. As powerfully as the turtles are, Rocksteady and Bebop always dwarf them. It could be really fun to see the turtles take on giant monsters" the big screen.

Bebop and Rocksteady will be 50 foot mechs.

[ranger_scout]

I guess they only way they could get Cam Clarke and Barry Gordon to do the voices is if the humans who play them have their voices change after they become mutants.

[THGhost]

Great news about Bebop Rocksteady, lets just hope they don't screw them up.

This is cringe-y. "We know YOU love these characters so we're trying to shove them in as hard as possible no matter how much the story might suffer."

That's a very cynical way of looking at it.

[Powder]

On behalf of Tot I think he'd prefer to call it realistic. :tlol:

[THGhost]

On behalf of Tot I think he'd prefer to call it realistic. :tlol:

Ah yes, that old chestnut. :P

[MrTMNT2012]

Awesome news! I trust these guys will do just fine as there weren't that much to those characters to begin with.

[TrickOrTreater]

Great news about Bebop Rocksteady, lets just hope they don't screw them up.

They will.

That's a very cynical way of looking at it.

They all but flat out said they're just trying to shove characters we love in the movie for the sake of it.

I'm not an optimist or a pessimist. I'm a realist.

On behalf of Tot I think he'd prefer to call it realistic. :tlol:

See? Told ya.

Ah yes, that old chestnut. :P

I call it as it is.

Awesome news! I trust these guys will do just fine as there weren't that much to those characters to begin with.

Thank christ the people involved with this movie suck ass, or otherwise we might have gotten better, more interesting versions of these characters than we have in the past!

Whew! Bullet dodged!

Is it like stockholm syndrom? Is that it? It's gotta be.

[B-Man]

Awesome news! I trust these guys will do just fine as there weren't that much to those characters to begin with.

It's pretty true. They are just one-note henchmen (though I bet the Nick show will flesh them out). Anyone else suspect they're gonna look to WWE for mo-cap casting? They'll need two MASSIVE dudes since the Turtles themselves are already big.

[Autbot_Benz]

depends which versions they wanna bring to the screen.

The Idiot ones from Fred Wolf Cartoon or the IDW versions

[TigerClaw]

depends which versions they wanna bring to the screen.

The Idiot ones from Fred Wolf Cartoon or the IDW versions
I bet it'll be a combination of the two, In the IDW version they are huge.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I hate Bebop and Rocksteady

[THGhost]

So it's Jack Black and Danny McBride as our top pics is it? :tcool:

I hate Bebop and Rocksteady

Maybe they'll change them so that you no longer hate them? ;)

They all but flat out said they're just trying to shove characters we love in the movie for the sake of it.

Not really, no. Those last 5 words are your own words. :P >>> "Casey Jones is a character that we love and we're trying to fit him in as well."

They no doubt will change them up a bit. Guess we won't be finding out for a while though.

I call it as it is.

That other old chestnut. :)
There's a VERY big difference between being realistic and being cynical. You should learn it.

[Commenter 42]

So it's Jack Black and Danny McBride as our top pics is it? :tcool:


Don't miss-quote. Big brother is listening.

BEBOP - Snoop Dog
ROCKSTEADY - Jonah Hill

[THGhost]

I don't think we should expect to see the same Bebop & Rocksteady from the 80s cartoon in the next movie, or at least not exactly the same. That'd just be too much wishful thinking. They'll no doubt be a little different. Ruthless mercenaries with the odd "blonde moment" perhaps? :P

Creating a new take on a character shouldn't be classed as "screwing them up", especially if that new take is creative. Keeping them the same would no doubt please die hard fans, but would also demand criticism for a lack of creativity.

Don't miss-quote. Big brother is listening.

BEBOP - Snoop Dog
ROCKSTEADY - Jonah Hill

Wasn't a miss-quote. But those are interesting choices too. Not sure I could stand listening to Snoop Dog for an extended period of time though.

[TigerClaw]

Don't miss-quote. Big brother is listening.

BEBOP - Snoop Dog
ROCKSTEADY - Jonah Hill
I think Terry Crews would make a good Bebop.

[THGhost]

I think Terry Crews would make a good Bebop.

Nice choice, I like it. :D

[The Stryker]

It's pretty true. They are just one-note henchmen (though I bet the Nick show will flesh them out). Anyone else suspect they're gonna look to WWE for mo-cap casting? They'll need two MASSIVE dudes since the Turtles themselves are already big.

They don't really need huge dudes though. The turtle actors aren't that jacked. They just provide the skeleton.

Though I do think John Cena could be a decent funny Rocksteady.

[THGhost]

I don't really care what their build is like, it's their voices that are most important to me.

[Commenter 42]

I don't really care what their build is like, it's their voices that are most important to me.

Which is why I see snoop dog over Terry Crews. crews is really really annoying.
Snoop would be a nice contrast vocally, to a louder more aggressive rocksteady.

Terry Crews is also a **** actor.

Just my two cents spuds.

Nice quote in your sig btw.

[TrickOrTreater]

Not really, no. Those last 5 words are your own words. :P >>> "Casey Jones is a character that we love and we're trying to fit him in as well."

Yes I can read. That's why I said "all but flat out said." Meaning "implied."

Creating a new take on a character shouldn't be classed as "screwing them up", especially if that new take is creative.

Their "new takes" on all the other characters in the first movie were a huge screw up.

[B-Man]

THGhost, I can't tell if you're quoting me as a joke or not lol :tconfuse:

[THGhost]

Nice quote in your sig btw.

Cheers. :tcool:

Their "new takes" on all the other characters in the first movie were a huge screw up.

I never said that those particular takes were creative. ;)

THGhost, I can't tell if you're quoting me as a joke or not lol :tconfuse:

Deadly serious, pal. ;)

[TrickOrTreater]

I never said that those particular takes were creative.

So why should the same exact people be given the benefit of the doubt on these new characters?

[THGhost]

So why should the same exact people be given the benefit of the doubt on these new characters?

So I want to enjoy the second movie more than the first. Sue me. And why not? It's called being optimistic. You should try it sometime.

It's probably filling one's self with false hope though, but that remains to be seen. :P

I can imagine something like this becoming a reality:

http://images.autourduncafe.fr/2011/05/rocksteady_and_bebop_rock_by_nebezial-d3dkc7t.jpg

[TrickOrTreater]

So I want to enjoy the second movie more than the first. Sue me. And why not? It's called being optimistic. You should try it sometime.

I'll be optimistic when they give me something to be optimistic about.

[THGhost]

I'll be optimistic when they give me something to be optimistic about.

Fair enough. :tcool:

[pennydreadful]

FWIW, I'd love to have Michael Clarke Duncan doing the voice for Rocksteady (EDIT: if he were still with us).

[Birdman37]

FWIW, I'd love to have Michael Clarke Duncan doing the voice for Rocksteady.

So are they gonna resurrect MCD Shredder-Mirage style?

[Metalwolf]

Errrmmm...

Being heavily pedantic here, shouldn't we get back on topic? Calling folks dumb for liking/not liking the movie isn't being on topic. Plus it's insanely boring to read through.

Do you think Bebop and Rocksteady will be mutated humans or mutated animals? Shredder still had that canister when he fell (although it was broken.) Maybe Sachs will end up being Rocksteady if he's still alive, since he'd probably want revenge. Dunno who would be Bebop though, but a wild thought would be Vernon, since it would be a way to get him 'out of the way' for Casey and a way for Shredder to hurt April.

[Bloodsucker]

Errrmmm...

Being heavily pedantic here, shouldn't we get back on topic? Calling folks dumb for liking/not liking the movie isn't being on topic. Plus it's insanely boring to read through.

Do you think Bebop and Rocksteady will be mutated humans or mutated animals? Shredder still had that canister when he fell (although it was broken.) Maybe Sachs will end up being Rocksteady if he's still alive, since he'd probably want revenge. Dunno who would be Bebop though, but a wild thought would be Vernon, since it would be a way to get him 'out of the way' for Casey and a way for Shredder to hurt April.

That sounds like a great idea. Vernon becomes Bebop, and sacks becomes Rocksteady. Very sendible idea.

[DarkFell]

Errrmmm...

Being heavily pedantic here, shouldn't we get back on topic? Calling folks dumb for liking/not liking the movie isn't being on topic. Plus it's insanely boring to read through.

Do you think Bebop and Rocksteady will be mutated humans or mutated animals? Shredder still had that canister when he fell (although it was broken.) Maybe Sachs will end up being Rocksteady if he's still alive, since he'd probably want revenge. Dunno who would be Bebop though, but a wild thought would be Vernon, since it would be a way to get him 'out of the way' for Casey and a way for Shredder to hurt April.

Dunno. B & R were and always been mutated thugs in most -if not all- of the TMNT comics, cartoon, ect. Who knows what will be waiting for us when the sequel comes along...

[TigerClaw]

Dunno. B & R were and always been mutated thugs in most -if not all- of the TMNT comics, cartoon, ect. Who knows what will be waiting for us when the sequel comes along...
True, However Bebop and Rocksteady will be a Mutated Thief and Russian Weapons collector in the Nick TMNT series.

[blindturtle02]

Dunno. B & R were and always been mutated thugs in most -if not all- of the TMNT comics, cartoon, ect. Who knows what will be waiting for us when the sequel comes along...

Clarke and Gordon from the OT, maybe? I wish Michael Clark Duncan was still around. He would have made a great Bebop. Man, that guy had one awesome and deep voice. Maybe Keith David could do Bebop. He could definitely make him sound more sinister if that's the way the writers are going. I'm drawing a blank as far as Rocksteady's concerned. Jeff Bennett? I have Gargoyles on the brain right now. I could try back later. I think David Kaye's got the chops for Rocksteady. He can get pretty gruff when he needs to. Scott McNeil could probably pull off a mean Rocksteady. I'm hearing something that sounds like a cross between his Beast Man voice from He-man 2002 and Bonesteel from Next Mutation. Sure Mutation was live action but I always loved that voice. David Kaye and Scott McNeil? Why am I subconsciously thinking of Transformers? Oh, hehe, yeah. Right.

[Machias Banshee]

I'm SO glad that I have to read the same people fighting about the same thing and throwing the same insults at each other like in every single thread in this subforum like we've seen week in and week out, month in and month out.

Over and over and over again....


Bloodsucker, Birdman, Purse Grabbin Puke, TrickorTreater, Coola Yagami, Samsteal, Leo656:

I am running out of patience. Do not derail this thread from the original topic again. Stop insulting each other. Knock it off with derailing every freaking thread in this forum. Some of you have been doing this for MONTHS. Some of you have been warned. Some of you have been banned for a short term. I have repeated til I'm blue in the face that I am sick and tired of the insulting and name-calling between the pro and anti people. It needs to stop on both sides. People like the movie. People hate the movie. Accept that and move on. Trashing the fans on either side does not make you better than anyone else. Turning every thread in this section into the same battle is driving people out and frankly making this section f*cking miserable to deal with.

This thread has been cleaned. Do not derail the threads again.

[Cure]

Thank you, Machias.

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm SO glad that I have to read the same people fighting about the same thing and throwing the same insults at each other like in every single thread in this subforum like we've seen week in and week out, month in and month out.

Over and over and over again....


Bloodsucker, Birdman, Purse Grabbin Puke, TrickorTreater, Coola Yagami, Samsteal, Leo656:

I am running out of patience. Do not derail this thread from the original topic again. Stop insulting each other. Knock it off with derailing every freaking thread in this forum. Some of you have been doing this for MONTHS. Some of you have been warned. Some of you have been banned for a short term. I have repeated til I'm blue in the face that I am sick and tired of the insulting and name-calling between the pro and anti people. It needs to stop on both sides. People like the movie. People hate the movie. Accept that and move on. Trashing the fans on either side does not make you better than anyone else. Turning every thread in this section into the same battle is driving people out and frankly making this section f*cking miserable to deal with.

This thread has been cleaned. Do not derail the threads again.

http://i58.tinypic.com/1yqs9f.gif http://i61.tinypic.com/2191a8p.jpg

[Coola Yagami]

I'm SO glad that I have to read the same people fighting about the same thing and throwing the same insults at each other like in every single thread in this subforum like we've seen week in and week out, month in and month out.

Over and over and over again....


Bloodsucker, Birdman, Purse Grabbin Puke, TrickorTreater, Coola Yagami, Samsteal, Leo656:

I am running out of patience. Do not derail this thread from the original topic again. Stop insulting each other. Knock it off with derailing every freaking thread in this forum. Some of you have been doing this for MONTHS. Some of you have been warned. Some of you have been banned for a short term. I have repeated til I'm blue in the face that I am sick and tired of the insulting and name-calling between the pro and anti people. It needs to stop on both sides. People like the movie. People hate the movie. Accept that and move on. Trashing the fans on either side does not make you better than anyone else. Turning every thread in this section into the same battle is driving people out and frankly making this section f*cking miserable to deal with.

This thread has been cleaned. Do not derail the threads again.

All of that because of this horrible terrible movie. I honestly do not remember any of this during TMNT 2007. That's just gotta say something about what the fine folks at PD have brought us. Y'all at least have to admit THAT.

Oh yeah and on topic... except Bebop and Rocksteady to either suck or barely be in it. Or if they are in it alot, that will make the TMNT have even less screen time. We're lucky if they fight more than once.

[Leo656]

Careful, buddy, that's still dangerously close to "NOT All Sunshine And Rainbows."

To Topic: Let Triple H and Batista do it. It don't matter. Literally none of this matters.

[Coola Yagami]

Careful, buddy, that's still dangerously close to "NOT All Sunshine And Rainbows."

To Topic: Let Triple H and Batista do it. It don't matter. Literally none of this matters.

True but did any thread get closed over the Imagi film? Anyone got banned over it? Not that I recall.

And naw dude, don't let Batista tarnish the good job he did as Drax. I do admit, it would be awesome if Cam and Barry voiced them... but they would have to make sound more believable and not cartoonish. As much as we lobe the original voice actors, hearing live-action mutant rhinos talk like the whiney Rocksteady from the old toon would be even more jarring than Tyson.

[TigerClaw]

Naw dude, don't let Batista tarnish the good job he did as Drax.
Plus Batista will be in the new Bond movie.

[Autbot_Benz]

Id like to see Ron Pearlman voice Rocksteady

[Leo656]

True but did any thread get closed over the Imagi film? Anyone got banned over it? Not that I recall.

And naw dude, don't let Batista tarnish the good job he did as Drax. I do admit, it would be awesome if Cam and Barry voiced them... but they would have to make sound more believable and not cartoonish. As much as we lobe the original voice actors, hearing live-action mutant rhinos talk like the whiney Rocksteady from the old toon would be even more jarring than Tyson.

Actually, I think *because* of that I think Dave has a higher shot than most at actually getting one of the two spots, just because his name has some buzz right now amongst the "insiders".

Since CGI for speaking scenes is apparently prohibitively expensive, according to the studio themselves, they probably won't be saying much regardless. So it really doesn't matter, ultimately.

And I missed all the sh*t in 2007, thankfully, but I do know I hope something happens and they never do another movie again, ever. But that's off-topic.

[Coola Yagami]

Plus Batista will be in the new Bond movie.

I heard rumors that Steven Hawkings wanted to be a Bond villain.... did that ever come into play? I wonder if it will be in this same movie and Batista will be the muscle.

[Coola Yagami]

Actually, I think *because* of that I think Dave has a higher shot than most at actually getting one of the two spots, just because his name has some buzz right now amongst the "insiders".

Since CGI for speaking scenes is apparently prohibitively expensive, according to the studio themselves, they probably won't be saying much regardless. So it really doesn't matter, ultimately,

Well, to be fair, I assume it does take a considerable amount of work to animate lips to speak as realistically as the non-CGI characters.... but then again, that's something they should have been well prepared for if they were going the all-CGI route.

[TigerClaw]

I heard rumors that Steven Hawkings wanted to be a Bond villain.... did that ever come into play? I wonder if it will be in this same movie and Batista will be the muscle.
Well, its for the new Bond film being called Spectre.

[Bloodsucker]

I'm SO glad that I have to read the same people fighting about the same thing and throwing the same insults at each other like in every single thread in this subforum like we've seen week in and week out, month in and month out.

Over and over and over again....


Bloodsucker, Birdman, Purse Grabbin Puke, TrickorTreater, Coola Yagami, Samsteal, Leo656:

I am running out of patience. Do not derail this thread from the original topic again. Stop insulting each other. Knock it off with derailing every freaking thread in this forum. Some of you have been doing this for MONTHS. Some of you have been warned. Some of you have been banned for a short term. I have repeated til I'm blue in the face that I am sick and tired of the insulting and name-calling between the pro and anti people. It needs to stop on both sides. People like the movie. People hate the movie. Accept that and move on. Trashing the fans on either side does not make you better than anyone else. Turning every thread in this section into the same battle is driving people out and frankly making this section f*cking miserable to deal with.

This thread has been cleaned. Do not derail the threads again.

You forgot Autbot_Benz and THGhost. They are poking the fire just as much.
Cure is the big troll too. I tried to make nice with Samxsteal, but he wouldn't let me. I try to make friend with Autbot, he was mean. You can't name me and not those guys. but let's talk more about how they will cast these guys.
Justin Bieber and Jaden Smith. I say Let it burn.

[Cure]

You forgot Autbot_Benz and THGhost. They are poking the fire just as much.
Cure is the big troll too. I tried to make nice with Samxsteal, but he wouldn't let me. I try to make friend with Autbot, he was mean. You can't name me and not those guys. but let's talk more about how they will cast these guys.
Justin Bieber and Jaden Smith. I say Let it burn.

What the f*ck? I haven't even been part of the bullsh*t that's been going on here, so what's your f*cking problem? Because you saw me thank Machias for doing a thankless job when it's clear this place has been driving her insane?

Seriously, I wanna know. I'm not even one of the ones who is being a passive aggressive child when she JUST tried to keep the peace in this place. So explain to me how I'm "the big troll".

[Bloodsucker]

What the f*ck? I haven't even been part of the bullsh*t that's been going on here, so what's your f*cking problem? Because you saw me thank Machias for doing a thankless job when it's clear this place has been driving her insane?

Seriously, I wanna know. I'm not even one of the ones who is being a passive aggressive child when she JUST tried to keep the peace in this place. So explain to me how I'm "the big troll".

No, you wrote that post before to be a smart guy. You know what you did. ^^

[Autbot_Benz]

What the f*ck? I haven't even been part of the bullsh*t that's been going on here, so what's your f*cking problem? Because you saw me thank Machias for doing a thankless job when it's clear this place has been driving her insane?

Seriously, I wanna know. I'm not even one of the ones who is being a passive aggressive child when she JUST tried to keep the peace in this place. So explain to me how I'm "the big troll".

ignore bloodsucker he has been a troll since he came here. I too haven't been part of the problem either I just wanna have a movie section that isn't so negative.

[Cure]

No, you wrote that post before to be a smart guy. You know what you did. ^^

Right. Meaningless and vague explanation from some nobody. I'm out of this toxic joint once again!

[Jester]

I was about to say, has Bloodsucker ever once said anything that hasn't been a snide sarcastic posting? We're gonna have to keep an eye on you.

[Leo656]

To be fair, I don't think English is Bloodsucker's first language and in some posts I only notice some stuff that's sarcastic or joking after I read it a couple times. I mean, yeah, some poking is going on, but I don't think all of it is as aggressive as it's being taken. I think some of it is also a language issue.

[Bloodsucker]

Right. Meaningless and vague explanation from some nobody. I'm out of this toxic joint once again!

I will ignore list the both of you now. The Mod is right, this fight with you is enough. Mean people here.

[Bloodsucker]

To be fair, I don't think English is Bloodsucker's first language and in some posts I only notice some stuff that's sarcastic or joking after I read it a couple times. I mean, yeah, some poking is going on, but I don't think all of it is as aggressive as it's being taken. I think some of it is also a language issue.

Thanks for say so. I like to joke around, but sometimes english isn't coming to me as a naturally as other days. I'm just trying to fit.

[Jester]

I know his profile claims he's from Brazil, but unless he's using proxies, it looks like he's Canadian.

[Bloodsucker]

I know his profile claims he's from Brazil, but unless he's using proxies, it looks like he's Canadian.

I have Proxy for Netflix. Also I am a Girl.

[DarthRaphael]

Way to stay on topic guys. How hard it is to stay on topic.

I don't know enough about voice actors to have a real opinion, but I'd like them to have a similar persona to the OT. Do we know who is doing the voices in the 2K12 toon? They may be good choices depending how they come across in the toon.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I could see Bautista as rocksteady

just not voiced by Cam, i dont think the 2 mesh well

[Coola Yagami]

Way to stay on topic guys. How hard it is to stay on topic.

I don't know enough about voice actors to have a real opinion, but I'd like them to have a similar persona to the OT. Do we know who is doing the voices in the 2K12 toon? They may be good choices depending how they come across in the toon.

Well to be fair a lot of threads go off topic. In this case the topic is heralding the existence of a sequel to this.... Less than desireable movie.

But to answer your question, at least in Rocksteady's case the 2013 version is a Russian arms dealer, accent and all, so it really depends on if the movie is gonna go that route though I'm sure they'll go the classic 80s route.

Although I'm pretty sure they either won't explain it, just mutate a rhino and warthog without the human element (the movie has so far only had animal mutants) or just have Sachs grab two random foot soldiers as test subjects.

Honestly they don't really need to be humans at this point. The movie ruined and changed everything else so who cares. A mutant rhino and warthog talking like street punks makes as much sense as a rat that's Japanese 'just because' and a turtle that somehow learned to make a friggin hoverboard.

[Metalwolf]

All of that because of this horrible terrible movie. I honestly do not remember any of this during TMNT 2007. That's just gotta say something about what the fine folks at PD have brought us. Y'all at least have to admit THAT.

Oh yeah and on topic... except Bebop and Rocksteady to either suck or barely be in it. Or if they are in it alot, that will make the TMNT have even less screen time. We're lucky if they fight more than once.Eh, this movie's been relatively tame compared to Bay's first threeTransformers movies, the Turtles did have decent airtime and there weren't tons of gratuitous booty shots. I have a feeling Bay has been learning what not to do again since the debacle of TF 2, the humor in the TF movies is incrementally improving and there is far less booty shots then at the beginning. I've also read that the studio and Bay are listening to feedback of what people liked and didn't like in TMNT, which is a massive improvement over his previous 'Suck it' attitude when he was making the first 2 TF movies.

[TrickOrTreater]

the Turtles did have decent airtime

Not really. Megan Fox was undoubtedly the star of this movie and got the majority of screen time.

and there weren't tons of gratuitous booty shots.

Just Megan Fox jumping on a trampoline, Mikey talking about f*cking her all the time, and this

http://i.imgur.com/E6AqLgD.jpg?1

All for a dumb joke and her getting footage that led literally nowhere. Didn't use it.

I have a feeling Bay has been learning and listening since the debacle of TF 2

Why? Where? This movie was undoubtedly a Bay movie. Bay-lite maybe. But the Turtles as Aliens, Shredder being a white guy stuff just goes to show he has nothing but bad ideas that, if we find out about, he'll change at the last minute.

I've read also that the studio and Bay are listening to feedback of what people liked and didn't like in TMNT

Where? Where has this been said?

[Lou 500]

Can't really see Timothy Spall voicing Rocksteady, especially after watching him in Blandings. All I can picture is Rocksteady proclaiming "Capital!" in a posh British accent as he chucks turtles around.

[samxsteal]

Not really. Megan Fox was undoubtedly the star of this movie and got the majority of screen time. Seriously people keep saying this and yet I just dont see it yes she is the introduction to the turtle No different from the ot show. Yes the OG movie introduced them quickly but sometimes doing thing a little slow build suspense



Just Megan Fox jumping on a trampoline, Mikey talking about f*cking her all the time, and this

http://i.imgur.com/E6AqLgD.jpg?1

All for a dumb joke and her getting footage that led literally nowhere. Didn't use it. :trolleye::trolleye::trolleye: Trampoline scene is not overly sexualizing her. Women dress that way all the time and new station do that kind of "reporting" all the time. He doesn't talk about having sex with here all the time, he says on innuendo(shell tightening) and the rest his him being flirtatious with a girl he likes. You see these things on tv and in the real world all the time. and with the exception of the one line the rest really isn't inappropriate. As for that shot that is literally the only shot like that in the whole movie and the point he was making as compared to TF 1, 2, and 3 this is tame, for a Mbay movie which usually has a plethora of T n A shots and gratuitous Sexual innuendos,and foul language.



Why? Where? This movie was undoubtedly a Bay movie. Bay-lite maybe. But the Turtles as Aliens, Shredder being a white guy stuff just goes to show he has nothing but bad ideas that, if we find out about, he'll change at the last minute.http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17dta180v43y4jpg/original.jpg Really You all do understand that the majority of Mbays time during the production of this movie was focusing on TF. lol
Seriously this is Not the Baysplurg everyone keeps saying it was.



Where? Where has this been said? Interviews Starting to come out about the sequel, With Eastman and others

Can't really see Timothy Spall voicing Rocksteady, especially after watching him in Blandings. All I can picture is Rocksteady proclaiming "Capital!" in a posh British accent as he chucks turtles around.
Idk About him When i think of those to i think slightly uneducated street punk using slang, Or the newer version of Russion accented and cyber punk

FOr the newer show i could see
Jb smoove as bebop
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1356578/

As rock steady
Sacha Baron Cohen
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0056187/
Or
Jemaine Clement
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1318596/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

[Leo656]

The fact you said Kevin Eastman said so means It's Not True. Jesus. How many lies does the guy have to tell before people gently remove themselves from his nuts?

And please, people, educate yourselves what a "producer's" job is. YES, Michael Bay spent a lot of time working on TF during TMNT's production. Yes, that's where his primary focus was. Nobody disputes that.

HOW-F*CKING-EVER, his role in the TMNT project and his autonomy over it means that ALL major story decisions absolutely HAD to go through his approval, and very likely ALL of the actual footage itself had to go through him as well. There is a PECKING ORDER on movies like this, and if you honestly think Bay was off making his giant robot movie while blissfully unaware about Liebsman's work, you're goddamn delusional. Liebsman is a goddamn Nobody who would NEVER be given any kind of autonomy over a major studio picture with as much at stake as this one. Never, ever, EVER. EVERYTHING had to go through Michael Bay, even if it wasn't put under a microscope by him it still had to go through him in order to see print. That. Is How. It WORKS. F*CK.

I mean GOD... do you people read? I mean, do you read anything other than movie spoilers/reviews? Do... do any of you ever take the time to maybe, I don't know, shut the goddamn TV off, stop watching those "Behind The Scenes" puff pieces on your DVDs and actually find out how movies are actually made? Because a lot of the ignorance flying around is tragic, and a lot of arguments and hurt feelings could be avoided if people actually did their homework.

Books, people, F*cking books. You'd be amazed what you can learn, and then, once you do, you'll feel foolish as f*ck for all the completely ass-backwards and incorrect things you really believe. Honest. I'm trying to help. I can NOT abide Willful Ignorance.

[TrickOrTreater]

Seriously people keep saying this and yet I just dont see it

I know you don't.

But guess what, it's true. She was the star of the movie. Her story, her (unneeded)character arc(that actually went nowhere since she didn't get her job back).

Trampoline scene is not overly sexualizing her. Women dress that way all the time and new station do that kind of "reporting" all the time. He doesn't talk about having sex with here all the time, he says on innuendo(shell tightening) and the rest his him being flirtatious with a girl he likes. You see these things on tv and in the real world all the time. and with the exception of the one line the rest really isn't inappropriate. As for that shot that is literally the only shot like that in the whole movie and the point he was making as compared to TF 1, 2, and 3 this is tame, for a Mbay movie which usually has a plethora of T n A shots and gratuitous Sexual innuendos,and foul language.

Rationalize it all you want brah. Hot girls on trampolines is a thing, the very first shot we see of this movie's April is on a trampoline in yoga pants bouncing up and down. It's even brought attention to in the movie with her "I want to be taken SERIOUSLY as a REAL reporter" trope.

Very first shot we see of the original movie's April is her on a news report reporting on the city's major crime wave. You know, dignified.

Hell even in the original cartoon she was ACTUALLY reporting on criminal activity. It was cartoon criminal activity, but criminal activity.

Both, need I remind you, times it was enough to get the attention of Shredder who wanted her dead.

Instead of this movie's April who stumbled around and found out things accidentally with her mouth open.

Really You all do understand that the majority of Mbays time during the production of this movie was focusing on TF. lol
Seriously this is Not the Baysplurg everyone keeps saying it was.

Really you do understand that this was Bay's project from literally THE VERY BEGINNING. Before the director, before the actors, nearly before the f*cking writers.

All that info is available on the TMNT 2014 wiki page with credible, cited sources. Check it out some time.

This was HIS PROJECT.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

They will.



They all but flat out said they're just trying to shove characters we love in the movie for the sake of it.

I'm not an optimist or a pessimist. I'm a realist.



See? Told ya.




I call it as it is.



Thank christ the people involved with this movie suck ass, or otherwise we might have gotten better, more interesting versions of these characters than we have in the past!

Whew! Bullet dodged!

Is it like stockholm syndrom? Is that it? It's gotta be.


Wrong. The michael bay is the devil pic as a part of your signature.

[TrickOrTreater]

The fact you said Kevin Eastman said so means It's Not True. Jesus. How many lies does the guy have to tell before people gently remove themselves from his nuts?

And please, people, educate yourselves what a "producer's" job is. YES, Michael Bay spent a lot of time working on TF during TMNT's production. Yes, that's where his primary focus was. Nobody disputes that.

HOW-F*CKING-EVER, his role in the TMNT project and his autonomy over it means that ALL major story decisions absolutely HAD to go through his approval, and very likely ALL of the actual footage itself had to go through him as well. There is a PECKING ORDER on movies like this, and if you honestly think Bay was off making his giant robot movie while blissfully unaware about Liebsman's work, you're goddamn delusional. Liebsman is a goddamn Nobody who would NEVER be given any kind of autonomy over a major studio picture with as much at stake as this one. Never, ever, EVER. EVERYTHING had to go through Michael Bay, even if it wasn't put under a microscope by him it still had to go through him in order to see print. That. Is How. It WORKS. F*CK.

I mean GOD... do you people read? I mean, do you read anything other than movie spoilers/reviews? Do... do any of you ever take the time to maybe, I don't know, shut the goddamn TV off, stop watching those "Behind The Scenes" puff pieces on your DVDs and actually find out how movies are actually made? Because a lot of the ignorance flying around is tragic, and a lot of arguments and hurt feelings could be avoided if people actually did their homework.

Books, people, F*cking books. You'd be amazed what you can learn, and then, once you do, you'll feel foolish as f*ck for all the completely ass-backwards and incorrect things you really believe. Honest. I'm trying to help. I can NOT abide Willful Ignorance.

Not to mention, one of the cg concept artists themselves said Bay wanted the Turtles "bigger."

That's why the concept art went from the thinner, scrawnier versions to the Hulk Troop 4 we got in the film.

[TrickOrTreater]

Wrong. The michael bay is the devil pic as a part of your signature.

...what about that has anything to do with my being a pessimist or an optimist?

Michael Bay sucks as a filmmaker.

That's reality.

[Leo656]

Look, I ain't trying to fight with anybody, and I'm sick so I'm cranky, and I'm sorry for going off-topic again. Really. I just want people to stop saying things that are Provably Untrue as if they're facts! You're wrong! I'm sorry about that, really, but you're wrong! I'd be just as mad if you said the sky was pink! Just STOP doing stuff like that! That's like 90% of the hostility in this place, people clinging to friggin' Lies or things that were disproved forever ago, and I can't take that sh*t. "It wasn't Bay's movie" and stuff like that... guys... come ON already... pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaase!!!!! You're KILLIN' me, Smalls!

To topic... uh... actually... after I said it jokingly I can kinda actually see Batista and I actually think that'd be pretty cool. I don't care about him as a wrestler but I'm neutral on him otherwise.

[Autbot_Benz]

Seriously what about STAYING ON TOPIC is so hard around here. This is becoming less about Bebop & Rocksteady (Sequel Voice Actors) by the day.

[TrickOrTreater]

Look, I ain't trying to fight with anybody, and I'm sick so I'm cranky, and I'm sorry for going off-topic again. Really. I just want people to stop saying things that are Provably Untrue as if they're facts! You're wrong! I'm sorry about that, really, but you're wrong! I'd be just as mad if you said the sky was pink! Just STOP doing stuff like that! That's like 90% of the hostility in this place, people clinging to friggin' Lies or things that were disproved forever ago, and I can't take that sh*t. "It wasn't Bay's movie" and stuff like that... guys... come ON already... pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaase!!!!! You're KILLIN' me, Smalls!

To topic... uh... actually... after I said it jokingly I can kinda actually see Batista and I actually think that'd be pretty cool. I don't care about him as a wrestler but I'm neutral on him otherwise.

Yeah I wouldn't mind Batista as the ex-military, weapons expert, gun for hire Rocksteady.

Not sure who I'd cast for Bebop. But I'd like Bebop to be some crazy, blood-thirsty street thug.

I like that dichotomy for some reason.

[Leo656]

If people are SERIOUS about keeping things "on topic", then just Don't Say Stupid Stuff Everyone Knows Is Wrong (especially if, y'know... it's Off-Topic), thus all but forcing people to reply to it. I don't think you guys care about being "on topic", though, you just want people to not be "allowed" to disagree with you about the movie.

SO... quit your little Bait comments and your general ignorance and maybe things can STAY on topic. But... that's not really what you guys want. I'm hip to your game. You definitely want the reactions. Happy to oblige. But don't you dare cry about it when I correct you whenever you're Provably Wrong.

TO TOPIC: Yeah Trick, I can seriously see Batista for Rocksteady but I'unno who the hell for Bebop, I'm drawing a blank on that one entirely for some reason. Vin Diesel? Or maybe roles reversed? This is hard. Especially when we're thinking about it more than PD is going to. :lol: I like your general idea though.

Part of me does want to see them have Batista and Triple H as Bebop and Rocksteady, just for the face-palmingly awful moment where someone calls them mutants, and one of them says, "Mutation? NO... it's EVOLUTION!" :lol: I'd laugh. It'd be awful, but I'd laugh.

[TrickOrTreater]

If people are SERIOUS about keeping things "on topic", then just Don't Say Stupid Stuff Everyone Knows Is Wrong (especially if, y'know... it's Off-Topic), thus all but forcing people to reply to it. I don't think you guys care about being "on topic", though, you just want people to not be "allowed" to disagree with you about the movie.

SO... quit your little Bait comments and your general ignorance and maybe things can STAY on topic. But... that's not really what you guys want. I'm hip to your game. You definitely want the reactions. Happy to oblige. But don't you dare cry about it when I correct you whenever you're Provably Wrong.

TO TOPIC: Yeah Trick, I can seriously see Batista for Rocksteady but I'unno who the hell for Bebop, I'm drawing a blank on that one entirely for some reason. Vin Diesel? Or maybe roles reversed? This is hard. Especially when we're thinking about it more than PD is going to. :lol: I like your general idea though.

They're going to throw stunt doubles at these roles and get The Rock and Anthony Anderson to voice them.

God I wish somebody else was doing these movies. I really really do.

[Leo656]

Now you're just being goofy, fella. Rock would break their budget into smithereens.

...What's an Anthony Anderson? I'm kind of old and out of touch. I'm serious, no idea who that guy is.

I do think they're going to continue the path of hiring guys who can do both the voice work and the physical work, if for no other reason than to keep costs low.

[pennydreadful]

Gotta love these movie threads.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/07b4061b54e8e2c3f6407b675faa12b6/tumblr_mhibxmCJaf1rc407qo1_400.gif

[Leo656]

Your hilariously accurate gif is Off-Topic. Reported.

..................:lol: Imagine if I was actually that petty? :lol:

[DarkFell]

Gotta love these movie threads.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/07b4061b54e8e2c3f6407b675faa12b6/tumblr_mhibxmCJaf1rc407qo1_400.gif
Uh..yeah. Really loving them. :| Gonna go back to looking at something else.

[Leo656]

The worst thing is, they apparently locked the whole section for a month a ways back, and it was the month I decided to take a break. I missed the only period of sanity this place has ever had. Aw, nertz. :ohwell:

[TrickOrTreater]

Now you're just being goofy, fella. Rock would break their budget into smithereens.

...What's an Anthony Anderson? I'm kind of old and out of touch. I'm serious, no idea who that guy is.

I do think they're going to continue the path of hiring guys who can do both the voice work and the physical work, if for no other reason than to keep costs low.

Yeah, that's true. Rock these days would break their budget. Gotta keep that sh*t as low as possible to turn better profits.

Trying to think of people who Bay/Paramount have worked with before, like Shahloub and Johnny Knoxville.

Anthony Anderson is the "I ate the whole plate" of donuts guy from the first Transformers movie.

[THGhost]

Thank God all that excess BS got moved. Perhaps this thread can get back on-topic at last. :roll:

It'd be awful, but I'd laugh.

Isn't this basically what most people though of the new movie? :P

I could see Bautista as rocksteady

I re-watched Guardians of the Galaxy today, I too could totally see Bautista as Rocksteady. :)

"I ate the whole plate"

That really needs to be a more popular catchphrase. :P

[Leo656]

This ain't directed at you TH, just something that really irks me about the incessant pleas to "stay on topic" from several people. It bothers me because that's not really why people were arguing. So keep in mind, when I say "you" in this next part, it's not any one person being "You", it's a group thing. Nothing personal.

So anyways... To be blunt about it, until we get studio confirmation or even media speculation, the topic has been exhausted. It's Dead. There's nothing left to discuss about it. Everybody already had a guess as to who the voices will be. Some people who made a guess or two, whether serious or in jest, further said, "They'll pick stupid choices, because they made stupid choices on some stuff in the first movie." It's understandable why they'd say that, and it's NOT really off-topic, frankly. It's supposition based on past events, and it's still just conversation. THAT got people who liked the movie upset again, and being offended is a Choice, so instead of "staying on topic", Those People jumped the rails and turned it into Defending The Movie yet again. Then, people on the other side who were challenged naturally defended themselves. So far, so good, no real "problem" here...

Normally, that's a "debate", but the people who post here nowadays can't seem to handle dissenting opinions the way they did Back In The Day, so the second anyone doesn't agree with someone else, it's Time To Cry To The Mods Again. And since you can't get people in trouble strictly for disagreeing with you, you claim it's because "They went off-topic". This is The Drome, kids. Topics stay on topic for about 15 minutes and then it's a free for all. Them's the breaks, cupcakes.

I'm NOT arguing, by the way. I'm pointing out the sequence of events. And that sequence of events proves, conclusively, that despite what some of you cats claim, you do NOT genuinely care if things stay on topic or not. Just admit it. You don't. You only care about having an Echo Chamber where nobody can say anything "negative" about the movie, and I'm sorry, you don't get that here. You can't go off-topic to yell at people just for pointing something out that IS connected to the topic, but then cry they're going off-topic when they defend themselves or point out why you're information is incorrect or logic is flawed or whatever. It doesn't work that way.

Again, I'm not arguing. Explaining the reason these "arguments" keep happening. As for the topic itself... Fine, play it straight, and stick to the topic. But this particular topic is dead until we get something substantial to talk about. So... yeah?

[TrickOrTreater]

Yep. That's just the way message boards go if it's a specific board with nothing to talk about. Things will go off topic.

[Leo656]

I almost never know what topic I'm even in, I just reply to comments. I can't be bothered to keep that nonsense straight. Guidelines, nothing more. The same exact conversations bleed into every other topic anyway. You can't smack someone every single time anything drifts, there'd be nothing at all to discuss.

[Coola Yagami]

The worst thing is, they apparently locked the whole section for a month a ways back, and it was the month I decided to take a break. I missed the only period of sanity this place has ever had. Aw, nertz. :ohwell:

This movie actually cause the ENTIRE MOVIE SECTION to be locked for a MONTH?

:lol: Tell me again how awesome this movie was? The proof is definitely in the pudding.

As for the topic, nobody cares. Until we get new info, noone really cares. Now if we were discussing confirmation of a reboot with other people in charge, then holy moley now we're cookin'!

[Leo656]

Maybe it wasn't for a whole month, but I was gone for a month and within that time the section was apparently locked down for a while. Kids just can't fight nice anymore.

I wonder, if someone created a Topic where the entire point was to argue incessantly about the movie... might that solve everything once and for all?! :teek: After all, when the entire point of the topic would be to argue and be hostile... then nobody could be tattled on for "arguing" or "being negative", when arguing and being negative was the entire point to begin with!

:o:o:o

[Coola Yagami]

Maybe it wasn't for a whole month, but I was gone for a month and within that time the section was apparently locked down for a while. Kids just can't fight nice anymore.

And for some reason, I just can't remember this ever happening to TMNT 2007 or Turtles Forever. And yeah, there were strong opinions of 'they screwed up the OT TMNT' too. But most people eventually came to a general consensus. I wonder how long it will take before most wake up and be like 'damn that movie sucked... and they're making a sequel... oh geez....'.

[pennydreadful]

Leo, I maintain that every thread is improved with the addition of Bill Murray. :P

Truthfully, I can't get super-worked up about B&R being put into the new movie -- I never found them all that interesting. I know some folks love 'em and that's great - there are just other bad guys who I prefer more. I can understand that folks are excited because it's arguably the first time that technology has really been able to put them into a live-action flick -- though I do wonder what a Henson-esque take on the characters would be like; whether that would work or whether having a guy in a suit would really just end up being too small (even if aforementioned guy was really ripped).

Guidelines, nothing more.

https://media.8chan.co/vgotm/src/1411423770169.gif

[Leo656]

I maintain that I'm up for seeing Bebop and Rocksteady in a movie. I just don't want to see ANYTHING at all TMNT-related from These Specific People ever again under any circumstances.

[Shark_Blade]

Imagine Shia Labeouf as Casey Jones fighting off Bebop & Rocksteady. :tlove:

[Leo656]

You see? YOU SEE?!?! How am I supposed to work with this?!?

[Cure]

You accept his opinion as his own and move on like a normal person.

[xChri5x]

Ron Perlman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000579/) as Rocksteady
http://i.imgur.com/F1FJEPA.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgj-fB7jzw

Kevin Grevioux (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0340485) as Bebop
http://i.imgur.com/Wfg0XxO.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1QvI_llE0


They could do Mo Cap as well.

[Commenter 42]

You see? YOU SEE?!?! How am I supposed to work with this?!?


Lol, you're not. And I couldn't agree more that the pro folks are absolutely trolling us anti kids. They DO want an echo chamber of resounding opinions and speculation inside their narrow margin of The Bay-verse.

I don't agree with the Mods "cleaning up" the thread. The argument is valid, and more to the point, important. Everytime the fight is silenced, the resulting re-occurrence is a nastier version of it's predecessor. I completely agree that for those not involved, it's irritating, which is why, I DO think there needs to be a V.S. ( no, not Victoria's Secret Leo :P) thread, for all out, no holds barred, bickering. A section of the board, where mods let users go to town on each other until they exhaust themselves, away from the main forum. It's worked well for the after dark group, why not this ugly problem?

Maybe that's an unwelcoming idea to some, but really, it would probably help keep other threads clean of the fights...as the would be happening elsewhere.

ON TOPIC

I think Batista is a far more gifted actor than anyone realised. The guy could do better than a thankless role in PDTMNT2. I feel it would be a waste.

I also hope they do not go the 2012 route for their backstory. It's one of the few things I actually dislike from Ciro et al. I 'unno, but cyber anything just feels dated in 2014, and a Russian Arms dealer? Stupid as hell.

[Leo656]

I'm sure anyone saying "I Want To See Shia LeBeouf Act Again" is sincere, and not just being a huge assh*le looking for a reaction. Yessir, sir. :roll:

I haven't read the IDW books but I've heard some good things about their take on Bebop and Rocksteady. I just haven't gotten to it.

[Coola Yagami]

They're basically the same, stupid and all, but they're also unstoppable juggernauts so it hardly matters.

As for Shia, that's all trolling nonsense. Those same people will be bitching to no end if the movie actually does cast Shia as Casey or anyone else in the movie for that matter.

[pennydreadful]

Ron Perlman's a guaranteed good time in pretty much everything he does, IMO... I just have a hard time imagining him doing either of the voices.

You know what the problem is? When I think of the characters, I can't imagine them speaking in a voice that isn't very gruff and not-the-sharpest-pencil-in-the-box sounding. It's hard for me to see them as anything other than dumb muscle, and the idea of B&R voice-acting ala the OT in a live-action movie could potentially be very... disconcerting, if not done correctly.

[B-Man]

Sweet choices xChri5x :tcool: Grevioux's voice is insane. Imagine if that dude got angry at you... :teek:

[Leo656]

Ron Perlman's a guaranteed good time in pretty much everything he does, IMO...

Almost. He was a f*cking terrible Batman in the "Justice League: Heroes" video game. It was like he recorded every bit of his dialog while downing Halcyon and NyQuil. Just the sh*ts.

[THGhost]

Imagine Shia Labeouf as Casey Jones fighting off Bebop & Rocksteady. :tlove:

8IXCK1EyP4s

Kevin Grevioux (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0340485) as Bebop
http://i.imgur.com/Wfg0XxO.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1QvI_llE0

This guy's voice is awesome. When I first heard it in Underworld I thought it was synthesised - but it isn't. :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

People only want Shia because they want to see him reunite with Megan Fox. No way.

I think it would be funny for Batista and Triple H to voice them, but I think they're too good for something like this. Honestly, I don't care who voices them because I'm not going to waste time on this movie anyway. As others have said, they'll probably only show up for the fighting and will barely be there. Not my idea of a good movie.

[samxsteal]

Ron Perlman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000579/) as Rocksteady
http://i.imgur.com/F1FJEPA.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgj-fB7jzw

Kevin Grevioux (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0340485) as Bebop
http://i.imgur.com/Wfg0XxO.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1QvI_llE0


They could do Mo Cap as well.
I actually like these two it would be pretty cool

[Candy Kappa]

Ron Perlman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000579/) as Rocksteady
http://i.imgur.com/F1FJEPA.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgj-fB7jzw

Kevin Grevioux (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0340485) as Bebop
http://i.imgur.com/Wfg0XxO.jpg
Voice sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1QvI_llE0


They could do Mo Cap as well.

That would be pretty badass.

But, we need Steve O to voice Pigeon Pete. Pete would be fitting in the PD universe.

[THGhost]

I don't care who voices them because I'm not going to waste time on this movie anyway.

Famous last words.

[samxsteal]

Famous last words.
How about Georges St. Pierre As rocksteady His character in winter soldier was pretty kick ass and getting an mma actor would work for mocap.

And i stand by Jb smoove as bebop he would be hilarious

Have Pierre as the "serious one " and Jb to play of the that with more comedy would be awesome

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

you know..in another turtle movie verse, not this PD crap, i could see big show as Rocksteady...just saw him on tv and he could fit the look

[Leo656]

Ehhh, I don't think so. He's kind of too... "doughy"... and he's not a very good actor, either.

These two are hard to cast because they've really only ever been done One Way so far, and the movie won't be anything at all like what we're familiar with, so it's really hard to even come up with any ideas. Could be literally anybody, because we don't even know what kind of approach they're taking, other than it probably won't be anything like the cartoon.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Ehhh, I don't think so. He's kind of too... "doughy"... and he's not a very good actor, either.

i admit i am going on size alone..i havent see him act outside waterboy and i think jingle all the way

[Leo656]

He's kind of the sh*ts. :lol: I like him, but... I don't like trying to watch him act. Even in a wrestling environment, his verbal skills are... not great.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

He's kind of the sh*ts. :lol: I like him, but... I don't like trying to watch him act. Even in a wrestling environment, his verbal skills are... not great.

haha i hear you...wrestlers are rare in acting skills...even though suburban commando is one of my fave movies

[Leo656]

:lol: Classic.

Eh, I really believe acting in general isn't something you can fully "teach". Like, you can learn it, obviously, because there's classes and school theater and all that. But a certain amount of it is just charisma and the ability to grab a room before you even say a word, and that's not something you can learn or teach, you either have it or not. If you have even a little bit, you can bring even more out of yourself by practicing, taking classes, etc., but if you're a dead stick, all the classes in the world won't make you look or sound good in front of an audience.

This isn't me putting myself over, but... I'm a better actor than a wrestler. Like, I have to work at wrestling well but I can grab a mic and own the room with zero effort. That's not just me saying that, that's coming from people in the business who can tell the difference. Other than one school play in 6th grade, and a few wrestling seminars where we went over promos, I've never acted or taken a class. I just walk and talk like I own the room, 24/7, no matter where I am or who I'm in front of. That's, like, more than half of what acting is. That's why a lot of wrestlers can't act, they have all the physical skills but none of the charisma or verbal skills. You can teach one from nothing, the other, you kinda have to have a little already.

[MathUser]

I didn't watch The first Micheal Bay TMNT movie yet, but Bebop and Rocksteady being in 2 has me psyched for that movie.

[BubblyShell22]

Famous last words.

Nope. I'm not one to say something like that and then go back on it. So there you go.



lol Seriously lol if hes not wasting time on the sequel why did he waist time posting about the sequel in a thread about the sequel talking about the sequel?

Oh what he mean is he will act like he doesn't care but will post repetitively his "opinions" about how bad the movie is Before, During, and After the sequel releases, he will waist time watching a half ass'd recorded copy :trolleye:

Love this site so much



ANy way How about
Georges St. Pierre As rocksteady His character in winter soldier was pretty kick ass and getting an mma actor would work for mocap.

And i stand by Jb smoove as bebop he would be hilarious

Have Pierre as the "serious one " and Jb to play of the that with more comedy would be awesome

I'm a girl first off. And I wanted to post my opinion on it and what I think will happen in this movie, so there you go. I have every right to post here just like all of you who want to see it. Leo didn't see the movie and he's posting in here, too, yet I see no complaints about him posting here. But this is the way it works here. If you don't like the movie, you have no right to post about it. I see how it is..

[Leo656]

It has passed my eyes, in fact. Just to clarify.

I never said I was never going to see it. That it was not a huge priority at the time and I wish it had never been made. And now, I hope they never make another TMNT movie again, ever, until the end of time, because I don't have any faith it can be done.

And WOAH, Bubbly with the BJ jokes! :teek: Damn, you guys sure now how to turn a kitten into a mountain lion. Seriously. :lol:

[Leo656]

:lol: I KNOW, RIGHT!

I... I feel like I've witnessed the death of Innocence itself... I can't... I can't even find the WORDS...
http://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/d7a464d9f72f0eda7828b4bbb8881104/7655%20-%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20kevin_nash%20wcw.gif

[BubblyShell22]

You're welcome, guys. I'm glad to be of service. I'm just sick of this elitist crap that if we don't like the movie and don't want to see it that we're not allowed to be here and post our opinions. Screw that.

[Leo656]

I just can't believe you kiss your mother with that mouth. Er, keyboard. Whatever.

SHUT UP I KNOW IT'S CLUMSY! SOME TURNS-OF-PHRASE DON'T TRANSLATE TO THE INTERNET :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

Well, someone had to say it, and I was waiting for it to be you, but you didn't. So I went there, and I'm glad I did.

[pennydreadful]

In all seriousness, I sense a pending lockdown. There's a handful of people who just can't seem to discuss the movie without copping an attitude and getting overly emotional - I feel bad for the mods having to break up the same arguments over and over again.

[DarkFell]

In all seriousness, I sense a pending lockdown. There's a handful of people who just can't seem to discuss the movie without copping an attitude and getting overly emotional - I feel bad for the mods having to break up the same arguments over and over again.
And I agree.

[Autbot_Benz]

In all seriousness, I sense a pending lockdown. There's a handful of people who just can't seem to discuss the movie without copping an attitude and getting overly emotional - I feel bad for the mods having to break up the same arguments over and over again.

wouldn't surprise me. I think the mods need to suspend some of the users Machias brought up earlier give them some time to cool down for a bit.

[BubblyShell22]

Well to be fair, the pro movie people aren't helping things with their elitist, "Anyone who doesn't like this movie can't post here at all" attitude. That was one of the main reasons I stopped coming to the movie forum. They were insufferable in the anti-movie thread.

[Leo656]

I wouldn't like to see that. I do kinda like the One Guy whose comments keep kicking up a dust storm. Generally. But he needs to actually read things people post before he clicks Reply and starts going after people. Because usually, the things he's talking about don't match what people are actually saying, he just goes after people for not agreeing with him and builds it from there. And then people naturally have to say something.

I don't like to see anyone banned. I've pointed out the cat's flaws and suggested ways in which he may better himself. No Dice. ((shrug))

I don't like to see anyone punished, genuinely. But I also don't think multiple people need to be punished for what One Person says/does.

[samxsteal]

Well to be fair, the pro movie people aren't helping things with their elitist, "Anyone who doesn't like this movie can't post here at all" attitude. That was one of the main reasons I stopped coming to the movie forum. They were insufferable in the anti-movie thread.

ANd what about those who Hate this movie so they have to put down those who like it, That they should not be able to breath

That they are MBAY suckers

That Working in a restaurant is a peasants work

Racist FOr no reason other then to disprove the other point,

Belittling Constantly


But you know what most of those users aren't here anymore I WONDER WHY THEY WOULD LEAVE

[Candy Kappa]

Racist FOr no reason other then to disprove the other point,]

Using racist terms is pretty racist, and you still got your oh so wonderful thread harking back to your... nice use of -noids.

[Leo656]

DUDE. You're bringing up stuff people said six months or so ago that has nothing at all to do with why you're raging at people TODAY. And you're taking it out on people who didn't even say those things to you. Okay, so chuckles aside, Bubbly's comment was out of line. Fair game, sir. I laughed, but it wasn't necessary. Okay.

You keep talking about "people don't let you like the movie" etc. etc., when it's been pointed out to you, by several, the problem in this discussion isn't the movie. I'M not talking about the movie right now. Okay? I'm simply talking about the fact that you're overly defensive about it, and that when people confront you with Facts, you either Deny them, or you just dance around them, use Circular Logic, to end up back where you started: "Well, I liked this movie and so did this guy and..." That hasn't had anything to do with the events of today. Alright?

C'mon, man, take people's words for what they're saying and not the words you put in their mouths. This hasn't been about the movie for a long, long time. This is about you now, and the fact you don't know how to talk to people, especially people who don't agree with you, and that some people might get yelled at because YOU got the ball rolling.

Oh, and a lot of those folks you refer to got banned for bad behavior. You're probably hanging on by your fingernails. Sh*t or get off the pot, already. If you don't want to be here, if you hate it so much, just Leave. Otherwise, you're stirring sh*t to stir sh*t at this point, and you need to actually listen to people when they're trying to talk to you like a normal person.

((Siiiiigh)) Killin' me, Smalls. Killin' me.

[Bloodsucker]

I called you a lair Because thats what you are a Lair.

Bubblyshell is a Lair.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~blaurain/EvilLairGames/images/Evil%20Lair%20Island.png

[Leo656]

Okay, I'm sorry, that made me snicker.

[samxsteal]

Using racist terms is pretty racist, and you still got your oh so wonderful thread harking back to your... nice use of -noids.

Tell me when was I ever racist

[Bloodsucker]

Tell me when was I ever racist

This is not on topic. Please Samxsteal, let us talk about the topic. We do not want another thread get closed.