Krypton

[TurtleTitan97]

A new show from DC is reportedly in active development that, judging from the title, many speculate will act as a prequel for Superman taking place on Krypton:

After breaking news that WB was developing a Supergirl TV show and that Fox was developing an X-Men TV show, both of which were later confirmed by other sources, Bleeding Cool is now reporting that a show titled Krypton is in active development with David Goyer attached.

Details about the potential show are scarce, but the name implies that the show may be pre-Superman, similiar to how Fox's smash hit Gotham is pre-Batman, and may involve the House of El, possibly Brainiac too. Goyer, as many of you know, is no stranger to Superman's world, having written the screenplay for 2013's Man of Steel, which spent extensive time on Krypton and showed the alien world prior to its destruction.

Although, Krypton would likely be WB's first (or second depending on when Supergirl arrives) Superman tale that would most likely not feature Superman in any capacity, it wouldn't be their first pre-Superman story, already having produced the Emmy-winning Smallville, which ran for 10 seasons and starred Tom Welling as Clark Kent and Erica Durance as Lois Lane.

This would mark Goyer's second DC Comics television adaptation after NBC's Constantine. In addition to his TV commitments, Goyer will also be busy for the next few years with his commitments to Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League Parts One & Two.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=110016#comments

[Raph's Girl]

At least with this show we know how it ends. Everyone dies! :roll:

[MrTMNT2012]

David S. Goyer? Not interested.

[raph27]

uuuuuuugh.

GIVE US ACTUAL SUPER HEROES! NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE SIDE CHARACTERS!
On another note, when did Fox announce an X-Men show? I'd watch that.

[Candy Kappa]

I just want to see men and women in spandex beating up criminals in back alleys...

Apparently too much to ask for.

[Commenter 42]

I hate Goyer more than I hate Liebesman or Uwe Boll, or Nolan.

I love the idea of a show about Krypton, but Goyer is the last person I'd want attached.

FML.

[Slade]

As much as I love Superman. I'd rather them retry something like Smallville than do a show about Krypton. At least with Gotham, Bruce is there.

[snake]

It won't be that bad.

R-right?

RIGHT?

[Leo656]

uuuuuuugh.

GIVE US ACTUAL SUPER HEROES! NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE SIDE CHARACTERS!


Stop and think how "The System" works for a second. If you're unfamiliar, it's more or less: "Why would we give the 'Big' super-heroes away on free TV? Who would pay theater prices to see a movie with these characters if they can stay home and see them on free TV?" Live-action super-hero-related TV shows are advertisements for the feature films, nothing more. They can "get away" with shows about Green Arrow and Flash because, "Nobody cares about those characters" and it's less of a risk to develop a TV show than a multi-million-dollar film that may flop.

A "real" live-action show with either Superman or Batman? I seriously don't think we're ever gonna see that again, at least not for a long, long time. Execs from WB have stated publicly, many, many times, they want to save their "Big Guns" for the movies. They have a half dozen movies starring both characters in the pipe for the next 5 years. Having two separate "universes" starring the same characters running parallel to each other would confuse the audience, and if people didn't like the TV show(s), they'd in turn be less likely to pay money to see a movie with those characters, even if it's an entirely different universe.

It sounds dumb, but honestly, history has proven them right. Their approach is the right way to go, even if it's frustrating to us fans. I, myself, would love a "proper" Superman show, but I've long since made peace with the fact it can't happen. It's business.

Honestly, Krypton itself, to me, is the thing about the mythology I"m least interested in. In my head, Kal-El's story begins when he lands in Kansas, everything before that is backstory and exposition and I'm not really into it. The show could be good, but it also could simply be "Game Of Thrones" in outer space. I'll check it out, could very well turn out okay, I'm just never super-enthusiastic about Krypton in general. You can tell the producers are just searching for any part of the Superman lore that hasn't been done to death already.

[CyberCubed]

This just makes me sick. Why would anyone want to watch a show where everyone will die by the last episode? Talk about depressing going into it.

[ZariusTwo]

Wish it were based on Kandor instead.

[TurtleTitan97]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4X0ydDCIAA9jFG.jpg:large

Syfy is turning to David S. Goyer — the man behind The Man of Steel — to develop Superman origin story Krypton, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

From Warner Horizon Television and DC Comics, Krypton takes place years before the Superman legend we know, when the House of El was shamed and ostracized. This drama, which is in development, follows the Man of Steel's grandfather as he brings hope and equality to Krypton, turning a planet in disarray into one worthy of giving birth to the greatest Super Hero ever known.

Ian Goldberg (Once Upon a Time, FlashForward) will pen the script and exec produce alongside Goyer. The story was conceived by both Goyer and Goldberg.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/syfy-david-goyer-developing-superman-755060

[Raph's Girl]

So Krypton isn't about Jor El JR (superman's father) but about Jor-El SR (superman's grandfather).

Jor-El sr was the father of Jor-El Jr, Zor-El (Kara's father), and Zim-El (Zor's twin. His son, Don-El, became the leader of Kandor).

Pre-COIE Jor-El sr was the one who discovered Krypton was dying and had visited earth a couple times.

[plastroncafe]

Considering what we've seen of Krypton in the NuVerse, I'll pass.
Give me a show that focuses on Superman's Mom and maybe...maybe I'd be interested. But more of what we've already seen? No dice.

[Leo656]

Give me a show that focuses on Superman's Mom and maybe...maybe I'd be interested.

Wow, first time in history anybody put out that particular request. :lol: Her role is usually "Can't we just keep him and blow up together as a family instead?" How are they gonna expand on that, exactly?

Anyways, I'll probably check this out but I'm not super-intrigued. I can honestly say, I've given absolutely zero thought to "Kal-El's grandfather" in my entire life until just now. They're gonna have a hell of a time finding ways to keep it going without being able to use too many familiar characters from the mythology, though. I mean, the books have had a ton of Kryptonian characters but how many viewers will know who Dev-Em or Quex-Ul or whoever is? It's not like on "Gotham" where just about anybody can watch it and go, "Oh, neat, that guy's gonna be The Riddler." There's going to be a fairly big disconnect from the audience if they can't fall on the old "familiar character" gimmick that these shows rely so heavily on.

I'unno, it's whatever, I'll check it out.

[CyberCubed]

Just another lackluster show trying to cash-in on the current live-action superhero craze. Ugh, when will it end?

[plastroncafe]

Wow, first time in history anybody put out that particular request. :lol: Her role is usually "Can't we just keep him and blow up together as a family instead?" How are they gonna expand on that, exactly?



No way, man! In Man of Steel, which I assume is what this is going to draw from, she was the first woman in 10,000 generations or something to get pregnant and have a kid.

And instead of focusing on the awesome achievement of THAT, we watched her husband testify before Congress. Then that self-centered ass didn't even program her into the ship carrying their baby to another planet.

That movie was gross. Just all and out gross. If I didn't already dislike Superman, I would after seeing that nightmare.

[Leo656]

I... disagree.

[Electric]

Going pre-hero in Gotham is one thing. Bruce is there, most villains origins can be covered, and we're still seeing the growth of batman and Gotham that we know.

With this, not only is superman not born, but he's 2 generations out. Add in that only some of his villains actually come from krypton, lex Luther not being one of them, and that we probably won't even recognize most characters.

I'm gonna pass. I've got arrow and flash and Gotham to fill my super hero needs, maybe I'll take a look into the xmen show. Oh and I've got batman v superman, and the suicide squad movie to look forward to.

[Raph's Girl]

Well there could still be familiar characters. Jor El Sr was a scientist who often visited earth (it was his fave planet for some weird reason). Also, we don't know how old his sons will be so we'll see kid versions of Zod and crew. :P

[TurtleTitan97]

Well there could still be familiar characters. Jor El Sr was a scientist who often visited earth (it was his fave planet for some weird reason). Also, we don't know how old his sons will be so we'll see kid versions of Zod and crew. :P

Honestly, that would be kinda interesting. In the Pre-New 52 comics, Jor-El did actually speak with Thomas Wayne, who convinces him to send Kal to earth. It would be cool if we saw something like that happen:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lsLON82Odig/TsVKVbhnINI/AAAAAAAAChU/oSzeDEo2NN8/s320/SB50_jor-el%252Bthomas.jpg

[Leo656]

NO. No, no no NO. I can not STAND IT when they do that "Oh, Jor-El or whoever actually came to Earth way back in the day", or "Interacted with actual humans (and prominent ones, at that) through some kind of outer-space Skype chat" crap, and they show Jor-El like, hand-picking the Kents to be Clark's foster parents. It's F'n Stupid. It completely eliminates any kind of random happenstance from the origin. It makes the universe too small (literally in this case) and makes every single event a part of some predetermined, prefabricated "Destiny", and it's just awful.

This is the kind of thing people who hate Superman always rag on. Part of the romance of the myth, for people who understand it, is that, but for chance and circumstance, Kal-El could have landed anywhere, or nowhere, and things could have turned out completely different for everyone. He could have landed in Russia, or even died in space, and everything would be different in the entire DCU. When you make everything into "Destiny" and "Prophecies" and hand-picked successors and everything is completely scripted out and connected, it's not only All Too Convenient, it changes the entire dynamic of who Kal-El is. When it's all happenstance, Clark is someone who, though gifted, came up from humble roots, and because of that, has an inner nobility that is specifically what makes him heroic, the fact that he CHOOSES to be Superman. If it's all Destiny and the Kents were hand-picked to raise him and everything happens exactly according to Jor-El or whoever's "plan", then Clark is Predetermined To Be Earth's Savior King, and I find that more than a little bit problematic.

It's always a much better story when they just shoot the rocket and pray he makes it. I can't stand it when it's like, Jor-El's already been to Earth and gotten Clark's first apartment picked out for him before the kid's even born. That sh*t breaks huge chunks of the story. I hope this show can avoid taking that way. They'd have to be completely out of ideas to pull that.

[snake]

I'm not even giving this a chance.

[Jester]

Sadly dude, that's superheroes anymore. Where Spidey and the Turtles used to be heroes by accident, now it's all pre-ordained, by science!

[Leo656]

Don't get me wrong, they have a ton of good stuff they CAN pull from if they want to go by the books. I mean for one thing, it's called "Krypton" and not "Kandor" or "Kryptonopolis", so they have a big canvas to work with if they want to take advantage of it. I mean, you could do a whole season JUST on Brainiac's invasion of and capture of the entire city of Kandor if you wanted. I personally would love to see things like the the terrorist group Black Zero, the wars that were raged over genetic engineering and cloning, the creation of The Eradicator... there's a lot they can do, it just doesn't all involve a ton of characters a casual viewer would be familiar with.

I'll check it out but I'm not crazy excited for it. They might win me over, I'unno.

[TurtleTitan97]

A bit of a minor update. David S. Goyer has confirmed that Krypton will take place in the DC Cinematic Universe, 200 years before the events of Man of Steel: http://comicbook.com/2015/10/22/grodd-will-return-in-season-two-of-the-flash/#Image8

[shuriken]

NO. No, no no NO. I can not STAND IT when they do that "Oh, Jor-El or whoever actually came to Earth way back in the day", or "Interacted with actual humans (and prominent ones, at that) through some kind of outer-space Skype chat" crap, and they show Jor-El like, hand-picking the Kents to be Clark's foster parents. It's F'n Stupid. It completely eliminates any kind of random happenstance from the origin. It makes the universe too small (literally in this case) and makes every single event a part of some predetermined, prefabricated "Destiny", and it's just awful.

This is the kind of thing people who hate Superman always rag on. Part of the romance of the myth, for people who understand it, is that, but for chance and circumstance, Kal-El could have landed anywhere, or nowhere, and things could have turned out completely different for everyone. He could have landed in Russia, or even died in space, and everything would be different in the entire DCU. When you make everything into "Destiny" and "Prophecies" and hand-picked successors and everything is completely scripted out and connected, it's not only All Too Convenient, it changes the entire dynamic of who Kal-El is. When it's all happenstance, Clark is someone who, though gifted, came up from humble roots, and because of that, has an inner nobility that is specifically what makes him heroic, the fact that he CHOOSES to be Superman. If it's all Destiny and the Kents were hand-picked to raise him and everything happens exactly according to Jor-El or whoever's "plan", then Clark is Predetermined To Be Earth's Savior King, and I find that more than a little bit problematic.

It's always a much better story when they just shoot the rocket and pray he makes it. I can't stand it when it's like, Jor-El's already been to Earth and gotten Clark's first apartment picked out for him before the kid's even born. That sh*t breaks huge chunks of the story. I hope this show can avoid taking that way. They'd have to be completely out of ideas to pull that.

I agree. And I hope it doesn't make it past the pilot, because what kind of works for Gotham can't really work here. This thing sounds like a mess. I mean don't care either way but let em waste their money on literally no-one asked for. Like Smallville at Least had Clark doing stuff and kicking ass and Gotham Has Gordon and um Selina...Kat? Isn't Jor El a scientist?
You know what would be a decent prequel? The rise of the Foot Clan under the Shredder. I could see that working for like (15) 30 minute episodes or like a 12 issue miniseries.
I get the novelty, but it's just that to me. A novelty

[Leo656]

I don't know. I think there's a ton of good stuff they can potentially do with it, but it's way too soon to tell.

[ZariusTwo]

Some casting news. Georgina Campbell has been selected to play Lyta Zod, who will also be the love interest of Supes granddaddy Seg-El.

http://deadline.com/2016/09/krypton-georgina-campbell-cast-female-lead-syfy-superman-prequel-1201812873/

[Spike Spiegel]

A bit of a minor update. David S. Goyer has confirmed that Krypton will take place in the DC Cinematic Universe, 200 years before the events of Man of Steel: http://comicbook.com/2015/10/22/grodd-will-return-in-season-two-of-the-flash/#Image8

So they can use their TV connections for a story like this, but not a full-blown superhero series?

I've come to actually like MOS in the last couple of years, and I loved BvS, but I have no interest in this.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is still the dumbest, most un-asked for show I've ever heard of. It makes "Gotham" look like "Breaking Bad". :trolleye:

[Raph's Girl]

Some casting news. Georgina Campbell has been selected to play Lyta Zod, who will also be the love interest of Supes granddaddy Seg-El.

http://deadline.com/2016/09/krypton-georgina-campbell-cast-female-lead-syfy-superman-prequel-1201812873/

*face palms* Gen. Zod's ancestor be having a bit of fun with Superman's ancestor....Oh lordy....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

*face palms* Gen. Zod's ancestor be having a bit of fun with Superman's ancestor....Oh lordy....

The angst! The betrayal! The drama!

The cheap pointless ill-conceived cash-in! :trolleye:

You'd think, what with Superman's lukewarm reception of late, that they'd have canceled this stupid show and gone with yet another Batman or Gotham or Batman-With-A-Bow-and-Arrow type show...

[Spike Spiegel]

*face palms* Gen. Zod's ancestor be having a bit of fun with Superman's ancestor....Oh lordy....

I guess this is before they use the Codex for all their reproduction?

[Raph's Girl]

And introducing some kid I've never heard of (Cameron Cuffe can be currently seen in Florence Foster Jenkins) as Superman's grandpa, Seg-El. Soon to be cast will be Superman's Great grandpa (Ter-El) and great great grandpa (Val-El)

Kid doesn't look old enough to shave...

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/cameron-cuffe-krypton.jpg

http://comicbook.com/2016/10/03/superman-prequel-krypton-casts-cameron-cuffe-male-lead/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is truly the dumbest crap ever. Gonna make Smallville look like Breaking Bad levels of quality.

[ZariusTwo]

Trailer

http://heroichollywood.com/trailer-syfy-krypton-released/

They're still using the previous DC logo:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I dunno, this seems like way more worthwhile than Gotham. At least this (as I understand it?) is tied into something of relevance, i.e., their actual cinematic universe.

[Raph's Girl]

This actually looks good. Huh. Can't wait to see this now. :o

[mrmaczaps]

Saw the trailer... I prefer my Krypton more in line with pre-crisis...

Going to pass.

[sdp]

It's tied to the cinematic universe? That's cool, I would've thought it'd be related to Supergirl.


My first reaction was "Who even asked for this?" And while still true, I guess it could be cool, we've never really seen much of Krypton though it can be easily messed up.

I don't even know how this slipped my radar, I had no idea it was being made. I remember the rumored Titans, Nightwing, Raven and whatnot shows that never came to fruition but not this.

[TigerClaw]

Looks like it was taken down, I found another ink.
https://vimeo.com/213799000

[ZariusTwo]

The publicity from the "leak" seems to have paid off...Sy-Fy have commissioned a full series

Syfy is partnering with the biggest names in the business to tell the boldest stories in the sci-fi world, and I can’t think of any bigger and bolder than Krypton, Happy! and Nightflyers,” said Chris McCumber, President of Entertainment Networks at NBCUniversal Cable Entertainment, which overseess Syfy.

http://www.newsarama.com/34449-krypton-and-happy-greenlit-for-syfy-for-full-seasons.html

[TurtleTitan97]

New details: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman/krypton-to-introduce-brainiac-doomsday-and-more-will-take-place-in-the-past-and-present-dc-universe-a152736

- Brainiac and Doomsday will appear

- Adam Strange and Hawkwoman will appear via time travel. Apparently they will travel back in time to Krypton to stop a conspiracy from preventing Superman from being born.

[raph27]

New details: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman/krypton-to-introduce-brainiac-doomsday-and-more-will-take-place-in-the-past-and-present-dc-universe-a152736

- Brainiac and Doomsday will appear

- Adam Strange and Hawkwoman will appear via time travel. Apparently they will travel back in time to Krypton to stop a conspiracy from preventing Superman from being born.

Since this is connected to the DCEU, does that mean Doomsday will be the same from BvS?

I also wonder if the movies decide to use the Hawks, they'll officially put it with movie canon and use the Hawkwoman they've established on this show.

[Splinter the boss]

I think I'll give this a try. The trailer looks cool, don't know if it's new or not. My knowledge of Krypton is limited. I suppose i could enjoy it.

[TurtleTitan97]

Shaun Sipos has been casted as Adam Strange: http://deadline.com/2017/09/krypton-shaun-sipos-adam-strange-syfy-superman-prequel-1202169783/

[Raph's Girl]

Shaun Sipos has been casted as Adam Strange: http://deadline.com/2017/09/krypton-shaun-sipos-adam-strange-syfy-superman-prequel-1202169783/

The only things I've seen him in are Dark Matter and Smallville (he was a um...play thing for Chloe in an ep). This whole thing of Adam Strange and Hawkwoman being the heroes of the show is definatly different. And apparantly now Krypton is no longer connected to the DC movies. It's no longer a prequel to MOS. So now its its own thing.

[Andrew NDB]

And apparantly now Krypton is no longer connected to the DC movies. It's no longer a prequel to MOS. So now its its own thing.

What? That was like the only compelling thing about it. That it might retroactively flesh out the DCEU in ways.

[Raph's Girl]

What? That was like the only compelling thing about it. That it might retroactively flesh out the DCEU in ways.

Just what Geoff Johns is now sayin. Apparantly it not being connected to the DCEU was revealed at Comic Con.

https://www.newsarama.com/35573-syfys-krypton-has-a-time-travel-dc-twist-and-adam-strange.html

[Andrew NDB]

Just what Geoff Johns is now sayin. Apparantly it not being connected to the DCEU was revealed at Comic Con.

https://www.newsarama.com/35573-syfys-krypton-has-a-time-travel-dc-twist-and-adam-strange.html

Well... leave it to Geoff to always disappoint.

[Autbot_Benz]

Braniac will be in Krypton

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/03/brainiac-cast-for-syfys-krypton/

DaVinci's Demons standout Blake Ritson will play Brainiac on Krypton

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Autbot_Benz]

Green Lanterns could be in this show

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/krypton/it-sounds-like-we-could-eventually-see-the-green-lantern-corps-in-syfys-krypton-a156901

[TurtleTitan97]

First look at Brainiac:

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[Candy Kappa]

neither video is available in my country, yay.

[Raph's Girl]

Brainiac's ship looks awesome. Brainiac himself kinda reminds me of Snoke.

[ZariusTwo]

Renewed for a second season

https://www.newsarama.com/40049-krypton-renewed-for-second-season-on-syfy.html

[Autbot_Benz]

First look at Lobo

https://i.imgur.com/jDHUM7P.jpg

[newfan]

I didn't realise there was a thread for this, there are only 10 eps in season 1? I've seen 8 anyway. It's okay so far, I didn't really care when I first heard of it, thought I might have preferred Jor-El than grandpa but the preview looked alright so I checked it out.

[Andrew NDB]

It's like doing a Gotham show 1,000 years before Gotham. Nobody is going to care about what is happening and the familiar things you can place back then are only going to piss off the people that do.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That's a good-looking Lobo (I guess?) but...

1. I don't care about Lobo.
2. I don't care about this show.
3. Krypton is Superman's "Gotham", aka "Smallville 2.0", aka "this prequel is stupid."

[Leo656]

You sure have a lot of opinions on stuff you don't watch, my son.

Strictly an observation. :trazz: I haven't watched it yet either; it's on the DVR. I play games way more than I pay attention to TV.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You sure have a lot of opinions on stuff you don't watch, my son.

Strictly an observation. :trazz: I haven't watched it yet either; it's on the DVR. I play games way more than I pay attention to TV.

I freely admit this!

[Candy Kappa]

First look at Lobo

https://i.imgur.com/jDHUM7P.jpg

wow, looks like that weird pretty boy New 52 Lobo cosplaying the regular Lobo.

[ZariusTwo]

SYFY have cancelled the show, and will not be going ahead with Lobo, the pilot for which will now be shopped to other networks

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/krypton-canceled-at-syfy-1232498

[Vegita-San]

That's a good-looking Lobo (I guess?) but...

1. I don't care about Lobo.
2. I don't care about this show.
3. Krypton is Superman's "Gotham", aka "Smallville 2.0", aka "this prequel is stupid."

Smallville would have been a much better show if it was only 5 seasons, and they didn't stupidly kill off lex luthor.

[CyberCubed]

I'll never understand why they greenlit shows and then put them on obscure cable networks most people will never watch, and then are surprised ratings are low. And nowadays with online streaming eating into cable televisions viewership...I damn near don't know how any shows survive anymore outside of the hugely popular ones.

We're not in 1995 anymore. There's just too much out there now where everyone doesn't watch the same group of shows anymore.

[sdp]

I disagree, a prequel can be awesome, it can do a lot of world building and do interesting things. The problem is all these shows try to be a superman/batman show without them and adapt storylines from those heroes before the time and it just messes things up. Either stick to it or just make a batman / superman show. Gotham at its best was when it was not doing batman villains but their origins and mobster stuff.