Nick TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament: Mutagen Man U. vs. Chinatown Ghost Story

[JTH]

It's once again time for the TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament. It's now time for the final first round match before the big boy episodes come in, this will be a 3 day and a private vote, unless you decide to post your choice of course. :D.

Last time, Pizzaface got chewed up and spit back out by the power of "The Kiss"! :P

Previous Poll & Thread here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49862


Here's the Official Updated Tournament Bracket:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=455365&tclass=

Want to see where your favorite episodes are, check the official rankings here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1358753&postcount=19


It's now time for the 14 vs. 19 match. And it's time for Donatello Overload, because we know there's so many people that can't get enough Donnie on this show on here right? ;)

The episodes are...

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"MAN HANDS" vs. "GIANT HANDS"


Breakdown of the two episodes:

Mutagen Man Unleashed
Overall Seed - #14
Where JTH ranked this episode - #10

Important events that occurred in Mutagen Man Unleashed:
1. Debut of Casey
2. First Battle Action of Mutagen Man

A Chinatown Ghost Story
Overall Seed - #19
Where JTH ranked this episode - #14

Important events that occurred in A Chinatown Ghost Story:
1. Debut of Ho Chan
2. Irma has "Powers"?

Winner Faces: #3 Seed Wrath of Tiger Claw

Cast your vote, and remember...HAVE FUN!!!

[Gunpowder]

Didn't particularly like either of these episodes...but Chinatown Ghost Story wins it for me. I can't stand Timothy in any form.

[Warhorse]

Didn't particularly like either of these episodes...but Chinatown Ghost Story wins it for me. I can't stand Timothy in any form.

Eh, I didn't like either, and they were more or less, the same damn plot line involving Donnie and April again. I don't mind hints and tidbits, but I am tired of all of these entire episodes actually revolving the love triangle. Those have to stop.

[ssjup81]

Both eps have their moments, but Chinatown Ghost Story was funnier, so it gets my vote.

[OrangeNinja1987]

I definitely liked Mutagen Man Unleashed better, at least 10 times as much. It was better in nearly every way, compared to Chinatown Ghost Story, as far as I can remember.

[Shiro Kame]

I preferred Mutagen Man Unleashed. Ho Chan was way too quirky in my opinion, and there didn't seem a lot to the story compared to MMU.

[Gunpowder]

Eh, I didn't like either, and they were more or less, the same damn plot line involving Donnie and April again. I don't mind hints and tidbits, but I am tired of all of these entire episodes actually revolving the love triangle. Those have to stop.

Agreed 100%. From what I hear, the kids (especially girls) love that stuff. So unfortunately, I'm not sure if they'll be easing up on it or not in Season 3. We can only hope.

[ssjup81]

Agreed 100%. From what I hear, the kids (especially girls) love that stuff. So unfortunately, I'm not sure if they'll be easing up on it or not in Season 3. We can only hope.Maybe if you were the actual target audience, this would hold more weight...

[Electric]

Both of these were ok, not my favorite, not my least. But


MMU just because April was still mad at the turtles, plus Casey introduction

[Gunpowder]

Maybe if you were the actual target audience, this would hold more weight...

Which is why I said they're not going to ease up on something that the target audience enjoys.

[snake]

Mutagen man unleashed.

[Warhorse]

I picked the Mutagen Man one. At least I can tolerate that one, and the other brothers were coherent and not being mind controlled. The China one, I'd just like to pretend it's in line with the 2014 movie, as it never existed in my mind.

[JTH]

How are you deciding which episodes are pitted against which episodes?

The seedings were based off this thread.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1358753#post1358753

[Warhorse]

The seedings were based off this thread.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1358753#post1358753

I still don't have a clue what's going on. Why not just pit first episode against last episode, then 2nd episode against the second to last episode and so on? Why make it so complicated?

[JTH]

I still don't have a clue what's going on. Why not just pit first episode against last episode, then 2nd episode against the second to last episode and so on? Why make it so complicated?
Because having 24 episodes doesn't make it even to work in a single elimination tournament without altering it.

There would need to be 16 or 32 episodes for that to work properly, because 24 is right in the middle, I can split the top 8 episodes apart from the rest to make a proper tournament format with 24. If you did best vs. worst from the start, you would end with 3 episodes. Finding a way to reduce it from 24 to 16 can get a final with 2. While I still want every episode a part of the tournament.

Does that make sense because that's about as well as I can explain it.

[BabyTurtles]

.....eh..Mutagen Man Unleashed...at least it introduced Casey.

The love triangle is annoying, but at least Casey and Donnie didn't meet yet in MMU so no annoying squabbling.

[Warhorse]

Because having 24 episodes doesn't make it even to work in a single elimination tournament without altering it.

There would need to be 16 or 32 episodes for that to work properly, because 24 is right in the middle, I can split the top 8 episodes apart from the rest to make a proper tournament format with 24. If you did best vs. worst from the start, you would end with 3 episodes. Finding a way to reduce it from 24 to 16 can get a final with 2. While I still want every episode a part of the tournament.

Does that make sense because that's about as well as I can explain it.

No. Why not just stick a poll up with all of the episodes on it, then it's all done in one go?

[JTH]

No. Why not just stick a poll up with all of the episodes on it, then it's all done in one go?
Because people prefer it like this and actually enjoy it.

Plus I noticed you've commented on every topic I put up so far with no issue about any of this, and this one you suddenly make a big stink about.

Hmm, I can't imagine why? :roll:

Would you like to tell me something that you think I don't already know?

[Cure]

Would you like to tell me something that you think I don't already know?

Wait, what's happening? I sure don't know.

[Warhorse]

Because people prefer it like this and actually enjoy it.

Plus I noticed you've commented on every topic I put up so far with no issue about any of this, and this one you suddenly make a big stink about.

Hmm, I can't imagine why? :roll:

Would you like to tell me something that you think I don't already know?

I'm just curious, and anyway, I did ask you on your private board, to keep this sh!t off the public boards, so who is having the issue now? Perhaps you should have just kept it PM like I started it? It was an honest question at how you were deciding to pit the episodes togethr.

[JTH]

I'm just curious, and anyway, I did ask you on your private board, to keep this sh!t off the public boards, so who is having the issue now? Perhaps you should have just kept it PM like I started it? It was an honest question at how you were deciding to pit the episodes togethr.
You brought it up because you hate the love triangle, which is why you brought it up here and no time before it.

Then I explained to you why I do it in this format, and you didn't care. I know why you asked, you wanted to know why the two love triangle episodes are together, because you hate it. And that's why you put it on my profile, which people would have seen it anyway, so it wasn't even private. Anyone could have seen it.

So just say the reason you brought it up is because you hate the love triangle, I already know that and had already established that, and that is no reason to start asking why I do it in this format.

[You are officially ignored]

[Shark_Blade]

Both are great, but I choose Mutagen Man because it shows Timothy in his true ugly form. :tlove:

[Mukouno]

Again two episodes I'm not very fond of...
Most annoying character vs most annoying love triangle ever.
I'll go with Timothy this time, at least that was the last episode he appeared in as an active character while we'll probably have to deal with Capriltello until the end of the series...

[evan2000]

I voted for Mutagen Man Unleashed. His crush on April aside, Donnie actually showcased a lot of his technical expertise in this episode. His combined skills in biology, chemistry, mechanics and electronics allowed him to build all the life support equipment attached to Timothy's glass jar (heart rate monitor, voice amplifier box etc.) while at the same time experimenting to create retro-mutagen, although he end up unintentionally creating a freezing agent, which was used later on to save the day. In the background, we also saw Metalhead being fixed up (remember it was beheaded by one of the Squirrelanoids earlier), walking around on its own with some early form of A.I. sentience and was already "communicating" with Donnie via beep commands. I can relate to many of Donnie's technical traits myself and I'm really fond of those elements being portrayed in episodes like this one.

In A Chinatown Ghost Story there wasn't much of Donnie's technical side being showcased, if at all. What people remember are mostly concerning his rivalry with Casey to win April's heart. In fact Donnie didn't even seem very smart at all in this episode (his mind is probably clouded by the problem with April), the most "technical" thing he did was looking up "Ho Chan" on Infomania (Wikipedia look-alike). Pretty much anyone knows how to do that these days. Even the idea of using pizza to distract the possessed turtles came from Casey and not Donnie. I don't know, Casey and Donnie's intelligence seem to have swapped in this episode.

[Warhorse]

You brought it up because you hate the love triangle, which is why you brought it up here and no time before it.

Then I explained to you why I do it in this format, and you didn't care. I know why you asked, you wanted to know why the two love triangle episodes are together, because you hate it. And that's why you put it on my profile, which people would have seen it anyway, so it wasn't even private. Anyone could have seen it.

So just say the reason you brought it up is because you hate the love triangle, I already know that and had already established that, and that is no reason to start asking why I do it in this format.

[You are officially ignored]

Actually, I don't. Sometime I roll my eyes at it, but trust me, I am one of the last people here to have an issue with it. I was just curious because of a previous poll. It really had nothing to do with this one at all, which is again why I PM you the question. You seemed to pit up two Donnie episodes against eachother, but previous, you pit up Shellacne and Newtralized and I was just trying to figure out where you are coming up with your rivalries. Wouldn't Shellacne and Pizzaface been a better rivalry since they dealt with Mikey? And oh yeah, ignoring me for a simple question, totally classy and a way to blow things waaayyyyy out of proportion.:roll:

[LeoRaph]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I liked Chinatown Ghost Story. I love Big Trouble in Little China and thought that it was such a great homage to it that I wasn't even paying attention to the love triangle thing. I don't really care for it anyway, it'll never work. It doesn't really need to be in there. I mean they've never been like this romancewise in any other TMNT (sure the guys were attracted to April but they NEVER trod on Casey's shoes to get her affections) but then again this is also the most TEEN they've ever been.

Personally I prefer the more adult versions of the turtles from 2K3 and Mirage but the Nick series is still fun with good story lines. Still, it wouldn't really hurt if they were to drop the whole love triangle thing.