Marvel Announce 9 new Movies

[Vicky82]

Marvel have announced 9 new Movies to the calender



May 6th 2016 Captain America 3: Civil War :D
November 4th 2016 Doctor Strange
May 5th 2017 Guardians of the Galaxy 2
July 28th 2017 Thor: Ragnarok
November 3rd 2017 Black Panther
May 4th 2018 Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 :D
July 6th 2018 Captain Marvel
November 2nd 2018 Inhumans
May 3rd 2019 Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 :D


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/

DC are now F****D :D

I can't wait to see Captain America: Civil War but it's a shame it be without The Fantastic 4 and SpiderMan.

So in 2016 we got Civil War, X-Men and TMNT 2 in a month, HHHYYYPPEEE :o

[AT-Man]

I, for one, am goddamn pleased and excited.

[CyberCubed]

Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn? For one thing this is an entire generation of fans later. The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn? For one thing this is an entire generation of fans later. The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

Yep, pretty much. I'm looking forward to the Movies.

[ZariusTwo]

Marvel have announced 9 new Movies to the calender




http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/

DC are now F****D :D

Eh, I'm still looking forward to DC's movies more. Marvel are overrated, the Emperor's New Clothes of Superhero movies. Sooner or later, everyone will realize they're naked.
Marvel have announced 9 new Movies to the calender




http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/

DC are now F****D :D

I can't wait to see Captain America: Civil War but it's a shame it be without The Fantastic 4 and SpiderMan.

Good. That means neither of them will be ruined as characters like they were in the comic version of Civil War (which outright sucked)

[plastroncafe]

So excited!

[TurtleTitan97]

Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn? For one thing this is an entire generation of fans later. The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

Yes, yes you are. That is the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard. :trolleye:


Anyway, I seriously can't wait for these. Especially Black Panther.:D

[chrisdude]

It's all about Captain Marvel. The #1 character/film I wanted.

[Gorilla Grodd]

As long as the movies maintain the same level of quality they will do just fine. Incredibly pumped.

[turtlefanforever]

whats with these 2 part movies. I hate them. Just make one long movie. I know they make more money this way but serious. What happened to the good old days of long movies that told everything they needed to

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Can't wait to see how they pull off Black Panther. He was always a favorite of mine.

DC must really be sweating it.

[Raph's Girl]

They've also announced that Chadwick Boseman (who was recently seen in the James Brown bioflick Get On Up) is T'Challa/Black Panther.

I for one am eagerly awaiting to finally getting me a Lockjaw plushie... :D

[Cure]

DC are now F****D :D


DC and Marvel can coexist.

[The Stryker]

whats with these 2 part movies. I hate them. Just make one long movie. I know they make more money this way but serious. What happened to the good old days of long movies that told everything they needed to

Would you honestly want to sit through a 5 hour movie?

[blindturtle02]

This is very exciting news. I can't wait. I wonder how they're going to handle the chronology between the two parts of Infinity War. Was hoping the stuff with Thanos would last for more than a single Avengers III film. I'm going to be broke before all is said and done. lol

[TigerClaw]

Kevin Feige explains the Marvel Cinematic Universe's version of Civil War, Since non of the characters have a secret identity in the films.

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Here is Marvel Announcing all the films.

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[ObiWanFan4life]

Eh, I'm still looking forward to DC's movies more. Marvel are overrated, the Emperor's New Clothes of Superhero movies. Sooner or later, everyone will realize they're naked.


Good. That means neither of them will be ruined as characters like they were in the comic version of Civil War (which outright sucked)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=80YFtnTBApU

[Ninjinister]

Eh, I'm still looking forward to DC's movies more. Marvel are overrated, the Emperor's New Clothes of Superhero movies. Sooner or later, everyone will realize they're naked.


How much did DC pay you to say that?

(Also "overrated" is one of the worst words ever. "I don't like this thing everyone else likes". Buh.)

[ZariusTwo]

Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn?.

No, you're not. I saw a rather distressing chart combining these annoucements with the DC movie projects slated on the timetable, the comic book movie bubble is definitely going to peak and burst before it's finished in my estimation as the market is now completly oversaturated

[CyberCubed]

Don't forget we're also getting X-men: Apocalypse and the rumored third Wolverine solo movie as well.

Way too many Marvel movies, let alone if Sony gets another Spiderman movie in before they go bankrupt.

[Jester]

Yeah...like the Action Movie bubble and the Romantic Comedy bubble and the....

If they are good movies, then it doesn't matter if most releases are comic book flicks. Good movies will do well. Heck, Cap 2 despite being a comic book flick was also a Bourne style spy and espionage flick.

[PangolinFeets]

I'm crazy-excited for Captain Marvel, Infinity Wars, and Civil War. I'm am really pumped for a 2-parter Infinity Gauntlet movie. Its such an epic story and its so exciting to see it getting a ton of screentime to work out.
I'm really hoping once for Planet Hulk and WWH after Civil War too. There's a terrible lack of Hulk here.

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeah...like the Action Movie bubble and the Romantic Comedy bubble and the....

If they are good movies, then it doesn't matter if most releases are comic book flicks. Good movies will do well. Heck, Cap 2 despite being a comic book flick was also a Bourne style spy and espionage flick.

^ This. Well said, Jester.


I'm really hoping once for Planet Hulk and WWH after Civil War too. There's a terrible lack of Hulk here.

Yeah, I really hope that will happen someday.

[NinjaPug]

I'm not going to get into a Marvel vs DC debate regarding the quality of movies but Marvel crushes DC when it comes to showmanship and presentation.

Just look at how DC announced their movie slate compared to Marvel today. DC is making their movies for shareholders and Marvel is making them for their fans.

[Redeemer]

Marvel have announced 9 new Movies to the calender




http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/

DC are now F****D :D

I can't wait to see Captain America: Civil War but it's a shame it be without The Fantastic 4 and SpiderMan.

So in 2016 we got Civil War, X-Men and TMNT 2 in a month, HHHYYYPPEEE :o I agree with Zarius Marvel is overrated. The biggest problem I have with Marvel movies are the simplistic story which I enjoy, but it seem like they make all their movies simplistic and never give meat to their stories.

Also they still don't have Batman or Super-man, Hell they still can't make a spider or Wolverine movie. Currently the four biggest Comic properties and they can't touch any of them.

DC also has batman and superman staring in the same movie!!!!!!!

Eh, I'm still looking forward to DC's movies more. Marvel are overrated, the Emperor's New Clothes of Superhero movies. Sooner or later, everyone will realize they're naked.

Exactly

[CyberCubed]

Just look at how DC announced their movie slate compared to Marvel today. DC is making their movies for shareholders and Marvel is making them for their fans.

Well if the DC movies are good, then the fans win too. I didn't care for Man of Steel much but I am looking forward to Batman/Superman.

[chrisdude]

If you ask me, the new X-Men movies beat all Marvel and DC. The Dark Knight movies beat most of Marvel.

I have about 30% faith that Zack Snyder will do anything worthwhile.

I don't think much of the MCU films are all that great. I really only find Cap and SHIELD interesting. But the universe they've built is so fun. But Civil War, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, and the mother effing Inhumans all thrill the crap out of me.

[turtlefanforever]

Would you honestly want to sit through a 5 hour movie?

without a doubt. Would you rather wait another year at least and pay for a second ticket to get what you could have got in one sitting?

[Warhorse]

without a doubt. Would you rather wait another year at least and pay for a second ticket to get what you could have got in one sitting?

I've sat through all three LOTR films, extended editions, in the theater back to back to back with only a 30 minute break in between each movie. I loved every minute of it, and I would probably do it again. I love my movies, so it's no biggy if the movie is good, the length of it matters not.

[psychturtle]

Some of you are going to be really sad when Marvel is JUST as popular 10 years from now. I like both Marvel and DC. But it does seem like those who side more with DC are more butthurt and WANT Marvel to fail. your loss I guess.

[sdp]

The Marvel bias on the internet is at full swing, I mean Marvel announces 5 years worth of movies and gets praised, DC did it a month ago and got called out/criticized that they announced so many movies that far in advanced. I'm a fan of Marvel, I definitely prefer DC, but it makes it hard for me to enjoy Marvel when everyone treats the company like gods who can do no wrong. I'll enjoy the movies but I really can't stand the average Marvel fan who gets a huge boner over anything Marvel related.


Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn? For one thing this is an entire generation of fans later. The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

I don't think it will crash and burn and I'm not even sure if it'll slow down at least by then. I actually predicted comic book movies would peak and slowly crash and burn around 2012 and I couldn't have been more wrong since they are even more popular, the way I saw it comic book movies had been around for more than a decade, Marvels Cinematic Universe was going to culminate with Avengers and the final Dark Knight movie was going to come out, I didn't think it would be able to live up to that but I was wrong.. I do think it will peak around the time of the final Avengers movie in that Phase III though. Mostly because around that time is when they'll start replacing actors and we will have already seen a ton of "epic" comic book movies that it would be easy to screw up in a "Phase IV" if not handled correctly.

As for the second part that is just ridiculous I don't even understand how you could make such an ignorant statement, I mean Batman is how many generations old? And what Iron Man fan will be over 30? Only the adults who watched Iron Man 1 as adults. Superheroes are as hot of a property as they've ever been and they've been around for nearly 100 years, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

How much did DC pay you to say that?

(Also "overrated" is one of the worst words ever. "I don't like this thing everyone else likes". Buh.)

That's just ridiculous, DC paid him because he prefers them over Marvel?
but I guess you can't take criticism? You try to imply he's a fanboy but the only fanboy I'm seeing here is you. He didn't even bash Marvel in his post.

[plastroncafe]

DC excels at animated movies, but...they haven't put out a good, solid, live action flick since Burton's Batman.

I want to like their stuff, but...every time I give their books and movies another shot, I find myself spending more time counting the bodies that hit the floor, or wondering how long the protagonist is going to deal with his Daddy Issues.

Poor Ryan Reynolds, he really REALLY wanted Green Lantern to be a good movie, but alas it was not to be.

Which isn't to say that Marvel's movies haven't also been a wet hot mess at times.

What'll make or break the upcoming films is whether or not the Big Wigs actually let the directors do their thing without a lot of intervention via committee. The news coming out of Ant Man doesn't give me a whole lot of hope. Half of the reason I wanted to see it was Paul Rudd, and the other half was Edgar Wright, but...now he's off the project.

So...we'll see. But I'm way more hopeful for these movies than I am to see what DC does to Wonder Woman.

[Cure]

without a doubt. Would you rather wait another year at least and pay for a second ticket to get what you could have got in one sitting?

Yes, you weirdo.

[Jester]

That's just ridiculous, DC paid him because he prefers them over Marvel?
but I guess you can't take criticism? You try to imply he's a fanboy but the only fanboy I'm seeing here is you. He didn't even bash Marvel in his post.
It's not just this thread, man. Every Marvel movie thread he poo-poos.

[PangolinFeets]

DC excels at animated movies, but...they haven't put out a good, solid, live action flick since Burton's Batman.
Agreed. I love animated DC so damn much.

The news coming out of Ant Man doesn't give me a whole lot of hope. Half of the reason I wanted to see it was Paul Rudd, and the other half was Edgar Wright, but...now he's off the project.

So...we'll see. But I'm way more hopeful for these movies than I am to see what DC does to Wonder Woman.
Antman was GOING to be the best Marvel movie, because Edgar Wright can only produce brilliance. I was devastated when he left it.

[joefsas]

So pumped for this :D

[Sumac]

I think Marvel offers more diverse lineup with their movies.

[plastroncafe]

Agreed. I love animated DC so damn much.

If only any other DC property were as consistently as amazing as the DCAU. Oh the money I would throw at them, that they would then assume was coming from a dude and STILL not cater to my demographic.

(Still bitter about the cancellation of Young Justice and GL: The Animated Series)

Antman was GOING to be the best Marvel movie, because Edgar Wright can only produce brilliance. I was devastated when he left it.

I was so excited to see for Antman what was done for Cap and Thor.
And now...like ashes. Boo.

[ToTheNines]

Not so pumped for Cap 3. I feel like the creative team of the last movie had set up a cool story for the end of the trilogy but the studio is more interested in making Avengers 2.5. Can't imagine how the Bucky thing is going to not feel rushed amongst Cap v Iron Man. Also means Mackie isn't gonna have a big role, so that sucks too.

Dr. Strange... whatever. I know very little about his source material. I'll let them surprise me. I'm assuming the plot will involve an infinity stone, or it will end up with him forming/joining The Defenders.

Guardians 2 and Ragnarok should be epic. And I feel like these two would be the perfect 1 2 punch to lead into the big conflict with Thanos, so Black Panther looks really out of place being the third film there.

Then again, I'm biased since I hate Black Panther. His origin is a decent revenge story, but he's pretty much devoid of personality in every episode of Earth's Mightiest Heroes and most comics I've seen him in. Boseman is a really good actor at least.

Also looks a little tricky having Captain Marvel and Inhumans coming out betwixt the two Infinity War movies. I'm sure they have a plan though.

Captain Marvel could be really cool though. Off the top of my head I'm thinking Katherine Heigl for the role of Carol? She kinda looks the part and I've seen her pull off funny as well as serious.

The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

I was just starting my senior year when Iron Man came out. I'll be like 28 when A3 part 2 is out.

Why must you always be such a drama queen?

[CyberCubed]

How is Black Panther going to work anyway? Nobody is going to want to watch a superhero movie sent in Africa (or Wakanda, or whatever his place is called), where a guy simply dresses in an black animal leotard fighting other Africans who try to take over his village.

Black superheroes only work when set in metropolis cities among other supporting actors. That's why Falcon worked in the second Captain America movie, he would never be able to support a move on his own.

[Leo656]

DC excels at animated movies, but...they haven't put out a good, solid, live action flick since Burton's Batman.

The first half of that is true, but the second is a blatant lie. Opinions and personal tastes and all that aside, more than half of DC's films have still been good-to-great, warts and all. Only really Batman Forever/and Robin deserve the hate they get. Among the rest, the seemingly next most-hated, Green Lantern, was still miles ahead of those two piles of sh*t.

Most of the time anymore, I see people cite movies as "bad" or "awful" because they failed to live up to some arbitrary criteria of the viewer, rather than whether or not they were objectively well-executed. Like I've said before, most of my problems with MoS, for example, come from my own idea of who Superman's character is, and I don't think the movie did it right. Otherwise, it was a really well-done piece of work with some dialog and pacing issues. ((Shrug))

I can thoroughly agree with just about every criticism anyone can throw at the DC films, but to flat-out state they're plain no good is kind of ridiculous. I'm all for demanding more out of our art, but I think we're expecting a little too much out of our super-hero fiction. Especially if someone's going to say Marvel's films are far and away superior. They're just different, and better and worse at entirely different things. And some of those really are pretty weak, or at least forgettable.

I don't know. Lord knows, I have my preferences and biases, but I'm a little shocked it's still a "competition" among fans anymore. Proof that people just need SOMEthing to argue about, I s'pose.

I end up seeing everything super-hero related eventually, so I'll end up seeing these as well, but honestly only the Captain America and Avengers-related stuff really grabs me. I think they've done a really good job at making that character work on screen without making it farcical, and that's something I was worried about before the first one came out, since every other attempt in the past had failed spectacularly. I really like what they've done with Cap. I'm sure the movies about the "lesser" Marvel characters will be just fine, but it'll be another case of winning me over in the theater, because I'm not familiar with the books. They're usually pretty good with that. That's one thing they're great at, is making films that are inclusive to the viewer even if they're not familiar with the characters beforehand. That's not easy to pull off, especially with the kind of lore that comics characters can build over time.

[Wingnut]

Black superheroes only work when set in metropolis cities among other supporting actors. That's why Falcon worked in the second Captain America movie, he would never be able to support a move on his own.
Falcon couldn't support a movie on his own because he's Falcon.

Captain Marvel has me interested, wait n see on everything else.

[Leo656]

Falcon couldn't support a movie on his own because he's Falcon.
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Ain't THAT the F'n truth. :lol:

I'mma just leave this right here...
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[TurtleTitan97]

How is Black Panther going to work anyway? Nobody is going to want to watch a superhero movie sent in Africa (or Wakanda, or whatever his place is called), where a guy simply dresses in an black animal leotard fighting other Africans who try to take over his village.



Wow. That is possibly the dumbest thing you have said by far. :trolleye:

If you even knew the least bit about BP's history, you'd know how dumb you just sounded, because 1) He doesn't live in a village, he lives in Wakanda, which holds some pretty impressive technology that makes the Iron Man armor almost look a like toaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_(comics)

And 2) He's not just "some guy who dresses up like a panther", he's actually the King of Wakanda, and the "Black Panther" title is held by those who come from the royal blood line.

Get your facts straight, bub.

[Leo656]

Give him a break, all black super-heroes look the same to him.

[snake]

Wow. That is possibly the dumbest thing you have said by far. :trolleye:

If you even knew the least bit about BP's history, you'd know how dumb you just sounded, because 1) He doesn't live in a village, he lives in Wakanda, which holds some pretty impressive technology that makes the Iron Man armor almost look a like toaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_(comics)

And 2) He's not just "some guy who dresses up like a panther", he's actually the King of Wakanda, and the "Black Panther" title is held by those who come from the royal blood line.

Get your facts straight, bub.

This. Black Panther is gonna rule.

[Redeemer]

DC excels at animated movies, but...they haven't put out a good, solid, live action flick since Burton's Batman.

I want to like their stuff, but...every time I give their books and movies another shot, I find myself spending more time counting the bodies that hit the floor, or wondering how long the protagonist is going to deal with his Daddy Issues.

Poor Ryan Reynolds, he really REALLY wanted Green Lantern to be a good movie, but alas it was not to be.

Which isn't to say that Marvel's movies haven't also been a wet hot mess at times.

What'll make or break the upcoming films is whether or not the Big Wigs actually let the directors do their thing without a lot of intervention via committee. The news coming out of Ant Man doesn't give me a whole lot of hope. Half of the reason I wanted to see it was Paul Rudd, and the other half was Edgar Wright, but...now he's off the project.

So...we'll see. But I'm way more hopeful for these movies than I am to see what DC does to Wonder Woman.

Wow really no love for the Nolan Trilogy?????? I personally think is the best comic trilogy thats been put out.
Outside of that DC has really been dropping the ball when it comes to movies. Man of Steel was ok, not bad, not good, but I feel like they could have done better. I can't get through a green lantern movie.

[Memphis]

I was curious if they'd do Civil War without Spider-Man or X-men. I'm pretty stoked. It all sounds awesome. I wonder what comes once it's all said and done. I'd love to see World War Hulk.

[Vicky82]

I was curious if they'd do Civil War without Spider-Man or X-men. I'm pretty stoked. It all sounds awesome. I wonder what comes once it's all said and done. I'd love to see World War Hulk.

The X-Men didn't do anything in the Civil War story (If I remember, all they did was sit down and have a meeting on it) So they can do it without The X-Men. The Fantastic 4 though had a bigger role in the story.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Who would fill in for Mr. Fantastic though ?

[Zulithe]

I hope I live long enough to see how Phase 3 plays out. :) That's some pretty impressive planning. Phase 2 felt very restrained compared to what they are going forward with in Phase 3.

Kinda wish they'd been able to fit another Hulk film in there somewhere. Incredible Hulk (alongside Iron Man) was Marvel Studios first stab at setting the tone for their new MCU, it succeeded in a lot of ways but I'd love to see how they'd do a new Hulk film now that they have a lot more under their belt -- not to mention the best movie Hulk ever in Ruffalo. Maybe phase 4.

No complaints though, I mean there's clearly a ton to chew on here. Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel are all going to be a joy to witness unfold. The other stuff is def very exciting too!

[plastroncafe]

Wow really no love for the Nolan Trilogy?????? I personally think is the best comic trilogy thats been put out.


Not really, no.
I have a massive hate-on for adding lady characters for the sole purpose of being love interests, only to have them fridged a movie later. And it all just kind of goes down hill after that for me.

[ToTheNines]

Who would fill in for Mr. Fantastic though ?

Maybe Bruce Banner?

It'd be really cool to see Banner on team Stark the whole movie and refuse to Hulk out, but then lose it in the third act. And you know the other guy wouldn't be pro registration.

[ToTheNines]

Not really, no.
I have a massive hate-on for adding lady characters for the sole purpose of being love interests, only to have them fridged a movie later. And it all just kind of goes down hill after that for me.

That sucked. She had no arc what so ever.

They're still fairly rad movies though. Not quintessential Batman, but rad nonetheless.

[PangolinFeets]

Kinda wish they'd been able to fit another Hulk film in there somewhere. Incredible Hulk (alongside Iron Man) was Marvel Studios first stab at setting the tone for their new MCU, it succeeded in a lot of ways but I'd love to see how they'd do a new Hulk film now that they have a lot more under their belt -- not to mention the best movie Hulk ever in Ruffalo. Maybe phase 4.



I'm glad I'm not the only one on the Hulk train. He's such a powerhouse and he has yet to get a really good movie (First Hulk was awful, second one was a little better. But no Ruff-Hulk yet.)
Sights set on a WWH. I want to see him fight Silver Surfer....or BRB if they can't get the rights. W/e. Just make it badass.

[ProactiveMan]

Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing will crash and burn? For one thing this is an entire generation of fans later. The kids/teens who watched Iron Man 1 will be over 30 by the time that last movie comes out.

We obviously can't tell what will happen, but I think it's a mistake to announce plans this far in advance. So far they have been playing it in such a way that if a movie tanks, they can change course and try something else. You can't do that when you announce two-parters; if one of them bombs, you either make the sequel to an unpopular film, or pull the plug and leave part one drifting.

Money is another concern. I imagine the actors are constantly negotiating higher salaries - by 2018, an Avengers film will either cost $900 million to make or the above-the-line costs will cannibalise the production budget.

[Redeemer]

Not really, no.
I have a massive hate-on for adding lady characters for the sole purpose of being love interests, only to have them fridged a movie later. And it all just kind of goes down hill after that for me.

I can't defend that. Her character was irrelevant except for the sole purpose of a love interest.

[Leo656]

I can't defend that. Her character was irrelevant except for the sole purpose of a love interest.

Agreed, but I was and am accepting of it because All Movies Have A Formula. In this case, the only thing missing from the Batman origin story, from WB's point of view, was a love story to bring in the women (because, according to the suits, women absolutely CAN'T be into super-heroes without some kind of kissy-face melodrama stapled on). All Movies Must Have A Love Story. It's actually a Hollywood rule, go ahead and look it up. Sometimes it's flimsy, or only implied, but it's always there. You MUST have a few sparks between a male and female character in your movie, or else "women won't go see it".

So, even though Rachael Dawes really had no point to exist, the fact they stapled her in doesn't hurt the movie for me, because if it wasn't her, they just would have said Bruce was childhood sweethearts with Vicki Vale, or someone else who was actually from the books. The love story would have been there regardless. So why get mad about it, when the rest of the movie was great? I'm less forgiving of it on "The Dark Knight", but that's mostly because smokin' hot Katie Holmes got replaced with Maggie Gyllenhall (however it's spelled, I don't care), who is... less hot. I'm being as nice as I can as far as that particular re-casting. It was a step backwards, is what I'm saying. Comparing their faces is like comparing smooth porcelain to a used washcloth, and expecting nobody to notice.

Huh. Maybe I'm not being so nice after all.

Anyways, when I know certain stuff Has To Be There because of "The Rules", I try and just let it slide if the rest of the movie is good. I don't love the idea of every super-hero movie having a love story (especially when it's as banal and insipid as, say, Thor's), but it is what it is and I'm over it. It's not like it'll ever change. Hollywood is a very insular system run by a very closed, closed-minded group of people, they don't let outsiders or "new blood" into the magic decision-making "inner circle", and historically they've only given up their "spot" to family members. The logic they use and the rules they apply are archaic, but they're so ingrained into the overall system of Hollywood that it's kind of impossible to change it.

Look at what happens when someone like Kevin Smith, an "outsider", weasels his way in through sheer talent and willpower; in just a few years, they're part of The System and making the same crummy movies and applying the same worn-out tropes and cliches as everyone else. Because if they want to keep making movies, They Have To.

Anyways, as far as "Daddy Issues" and whatnot goes, that's pretty much all Batman is. Why would anyone watch Batman if they didn't kind of know/expect there would be a lot of "Waaaaah, I miss my Dad" in it? :lol: Batman's a spoiled, damaged child, a deranged Peter Pan acting out a revenge fantasy. Not expecting his neuroses to play out in a big way onscreen is puzzling, to say the least. I'unno.

[Davetello]

No, you're not. I saw a rather distressing chart combining these annoucements with the DC movie projects slated on the timetable, the comic book movie bubble is definitely going to peak and burst before it's finished in my estimation as the market is now completly oversaturated

I saw the same chart and saved it to my hard drive. There are an insane number of comic book films slated for release before 2020, and I agree that the bubble will burst somewhere along the way.

From that list I'm only really excited about the Avengers and Cap films - some others I'm mildly interested in. I like what I have read of Civil War, and of course Thanos and the Infinity saga should be epic.

Also agree with everyone that the DCAU and their original animated movies are fantastic.

[Warhorse]

That sucked. She had no arc what so ever.

They're still fairly rad movies though. Not quintessential Batman, but rad nonetheless.

Yeah, I guess I was supposed to feel sad when Rachel dies, but I was more like, good riddance, she was annoying. I actually got more feels with Gordon's momentary departure!

[sdp]

Well I watched the "teaser" of Avengers 3 and can't say that it wasn't pretty exciting. It still easy to forget how awesome it is to have these movie in continuity with each other, I remember mentioning this ten years ago when all the Marvel movies were coming out and thinking a crossover could happen only to be told that would never happen because of rights issues and look at where we are today. The anti-DC bias the internet has makes me crap on Marvel more than I should, I mean just look at the difference in attitude when DC announces 5 years worth of movies and Marvel, but Marvel is pretty damn awesome as well.

[TigerClaw]

Daniel Bruhl has been cast in Captain America: Civil War.
http://marvel.com/news/movies/23678/daniel_bruhl_cast_in_marvels_captain_america_civil _war