Who created which characters?

[neatoman]

So something that bugs me a bit about TMNT, is that I don't know who created which characters. We all know that most of the central characters are created by Peter and Kevin with some help from Jim, Ryan and Steve, but other than that it's hard to tell.

A lot of this comes from the fact that many of the TMNT characters were created for a toyline of which I don't know how to track down who the designers of which toys were. Another problem is that a lot of others were created for TV shows and it can be a little difficult to tell when the characters were intended to show up, if they were a collaboration early on with a lot of planneing or just some character created by a writer for a single episode who wound up in more episodes than intended.

To some people this won't matter at all but to me it's kind of important to who the creator of a character is.

So who knows to whom I should credit some fuzzier character creation to?

[Powder]

Jim Lawson created Rat King, Steve Lavigne created Sgt. Bananas, Ryan Brown created Leatherhead, these are just some off the top of my head credits... Are there specific characters you want to know the fathers of? I could try to help.

[neatoman]

Jim Lawson created Rat King, Steve Lavigne created Sgt. Bananas, Ryan Brown created Leatherhead, these are just some off the top of my head credits... Are there specific characters you want to know the fathers of? I could try to help.

Let's see, here's a couple I'm curious about:

Slash
Metalhead
Chrome Dome
Hun
Bishop
Angel

[neatoman]

I checked Slash's Wikipedia article, it claims Kevin Eastman created Slash but offers no source.

[pennydreadful]

I was going to say - I'm sure Professor Powder can help you out with this. :tlol: Dude knows pretty much all there is to know about such things!

[CyberCubed]

David Wise created Krang.

PL drew the initial concepts for Bebop and Rocksteady. He also created Mutagen Man.

[cloud]

Just wondering, any of you guys follow Peter Laird's TMNT blog?
Once in a while he does a q&a session with fans. You might want to try asking him about some characters. He seems to have kept a lot of his notes.
I think it was mentioned that back then Playmates has asked the Mirage staff to submit ideas for characters to see if they can incorporate them to the toyline. So the Mirage crew send in a lot of character designs. So I'm guessing most of the credits will be the Mirage folks.
I'm not 100% sure but Hun, Bishop were original creations in the 2k3 show. Angel was from the vol1 comics.

[MrPliggins]

Which issue of vol. 1 was Angel in? I don't remember ever seeing her until the 2k3 series.

[Xav]

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure she doesn't.

[neatoman]

David Wise created Krang.



That is one of the credits I will allow that man to have (there's no real evidence to the contrary like so many of his other claims). But who designed the character?

[snake]

Which issue of vol. 1 was Angel in? I don't remember ever seeing her until the 2k3 series.

None. She was in the Image comics though.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

David Wise created Krang.

PL drew the initial concepts for Bebop and Rocksteady. He also created Mutagen Man.

I know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiqSuhjtSTQ

[Bry]

That is one of the credits I will allow that man to have (there's no real evidence to the contrary like so many of his other claims). But who designed the character?

Not sure who designed him, but the overall visual idea was clearly/obviously based on the Utroms. (So even though Wise deserves his credit for the creation of Krang, it's still not a wholly original one.)

[Xav]

None. She was in the Image comics though.No she wasn't. I mean yeah there was a kunoichi named Angel, but that hardly counts as being the same character.

[CyberCubed]

Not sure who designed him, but the overall visual idea was clearly/obviously based on the Utroms. (So even though Wise deserves his credit for the creation of Krang, it's still not a wholly original one.)

Krang's design is a bit different than the Mirage Utroms. Longer tentacles for arms, and Krang's android body is very different than an Utrom suit other than using the stomach cavity.

[Bry]

Krang's design is a bit different than the Mirage Utroms. Longer tentacles for arms, and Krang's android body is very different than an Utrom suit other than using the stomach cavity.

Well, yes, it's different, but it's still a pink, brain-like alien with tentacles that sits in the stomach cavity of a robot body. That's what I meant: visually it's not wholly "original," as it's a redesign (though a significant one) of the Utroms. Not downplaying Wise for his part in it - the personality and character are very different, but the design/concept was based on the Utroms.

[neatoman]

Krang's design is a bit different than the Mirage Utroms. Longer tentacles for arms, and Krang's android body is very different than an Utrom suit other than using the stomach cavity.

Well, yes, it's different, but it's still a pink, brain-like alien with tentacles that sits in the stomach cavity of a robot body. That's what I meant: visually it's not wholly "original," as it's a redesign (though a significant one) of the Utroms. Not downplaying Wise for his part in it - the personality and character are very different, but the design/concept was based on the Utroms.

What was your argument CyberCubed? That the similarities were coincidental? I really doubt that.

[snake]

No she wasn't. I mean yeah there was a kunoichi named Angel, but that hardly counts as being the same character.

You're right. I forgot the image comics were published in 96.

[neatoman]

So here's a question, who created Hun?

The credit of character designer of the 4Kids show goes to Adrian M. Barrios, here's some links to his stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Chromaticsketches/videos
http://captainluckypants.deviantart.com/
http://adrianbarrios.blogspot.se/
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/118/a/4/The_Pimp_Boss_by_CaptainLuckypants.jpg

So I'm assuming he designed Hun but I'd still be interested in knowing who came up with the idea. Laird claims he was not initially impressed with the character, so I think that means we can rule him out. This means it might fall one or more of the writers from season 1, Michael Ryan, Marty Isenberg, Eric Luke and Greg Johnson. Ajit "AJ" Jothikumar and Chuck Patton are credited for "Series Character Development". Lloyd Goldfine is of course also a candidate for Hun's co-creator.

So what we have here is a little frustrating to figure out, we have 1 (probable) designer and 7 others who might have been involved with the creation of the character...

[cryan]

I really would like to know who created Mona Lisa. The Writer of that episode must have had a lot of fun with that character.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I really would like to know who created Mona Lisa. The Writer of that episode must have had a lot of fun with that character.

Charles M. Howell IV at least wrote the episode.

[Tubuloso 1984]

Who created Mr. Ogg? Lol

[Donnieangelo]

Who created Mr. Ogg? Lol
Let's see...I know David Wise wrote the episode.

So, it's him.

[Leo656]

What's the statute of limitations? Can he still legally be charged with war crimes? Can we file a class-action lawsuit for punitive damages? Mental anguish? SOMEthing?

[John Pannozzi]

Steve Lavigne created Screwloose.

If you look at the Michael Dooney sketchbook that Tundra put out in 1991, you'll see concept drawings for Chrome Dome and Antrax.


And this other thread also about character creation credit (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=34993) is indispensable, and you guys should probably merge it with this thread.