Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep5: "In Dreams"

[Machias Banshee]

Okay, I'm running a lil close to the wire, but we've got a new episode up tonight.

Dream beavers... it sounds like the name of a bad porno, but what is this episode really about? Is this going to be some actual deep insight into what the turtles are thinking about right now: Hiding in Northampton, the invasion in New York, the loss of Splinter... their deepest fears?


We've had some serious episodes, some humorous... this could really be a toss-up. I have a feeling it will be less serious and more into the horror genre, with a lot of cornballish humor. We'll see. :)

It's two hours to go, everyone, just be patient!

[CyberCubed]

Some cool scenes in this episode and nice backgrounds.

The part with the guy using the chainsaw against Casey was more creepy than the writers intended, especially because it was real and Casey could have been chopped up. Did that remind anyone else of Resident Evil 4?

Though this being the umpteenth horror episode in this show took a bit of sting off this one since we've seen so many similar episodes.

[Machias Banshee]

That was... weird.

Poll on the way!

[Vicky82]

Oh my god!!!!!! that episode was totally f****d up :o

and I enjoyed it but now i'm too scared to go to bed.

[TrickOrTreater]

Did that remind anyone else of Resident Evil 4?

Why would it remind anyone of that?

The voice of the general store owner was Bill Moseley and the chainsaw had The Saw Is Family on the blade.

A reference to Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.

[JTH]

Oh my god!!!!!! that episode was totally f****d up :o
And awesome :D

[IndigoErth]

What did I just watch? lol Different, very different. Dear god Dave... LOL Not too much stands out to me, but not a bad episode.

What did it say on the chainsaw? Didn't quite catch it.

Hope the old guy is back around again since he's a new neighbor.

[CyberCubed]

Why would it remind anyone of that?

The voice of the general store owner was Bill Moseley and the chainsaw had The Saw Is Family on the blade.

A reference to Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.

Because I never watched that movie and it reminded me of the chainsaw guys in Resident Evil 4

[lonewarrior20]

i liked it. i wish they would have some how or another found a way to get bruce campbell to play the store owner.

that said
one two the beavers are coming for you....

[CyberCubed]

Dave had Bender's voice.

[Allio]

I'm sure Dave was the side of Freddy that REALLY loved children

[pannoni1]

Since we've had several "it's a dream" episodes so far, what made this watchable was some funny moments and I understood that this was about satire and except for the point where Casey/April have to "fix" the device to make the Turtles wake up, it was all about fantasy within a fantasy and I could easily get the feeling that this wasn't meant to be taken seriously. The beavers obviously were sort of dark versions of the Turtles themselves. Unfortunately, I feel that this is one of the worst episodes of the series so far and it saddens me that with all of the promotion as of late, this easily could have been made by the Platinum Dunes script. Yes, the part with Mikey in his own dream and the brief Rock concert cameo were cool along with a flashback to the City, but I was just unimpressed with the quality of this episode.

Overall: 5/10

[TigerClaw]

I thought it was a good episode, We haven't seen the last of those Dream Beavers.

[Mellie]

This episode was insane, I loved it! I think it's my favorite from S3 so far.

The beavers, the visuals, the dreams (Raph's was the BEST, Mikey's was predictable :lol:) everything was so much fun.

Yeah yeah, I'm tired of filler too, but judging this episode on it's own.. it was great! :D

[TrickOrTreater]

What did I just watch? lol Different, very different. Dear god Dave... LOL Not too much stands out to me, but not a bad episode.

What did it say on the chainsaw? Didn't quite catch it.

The Saw Is Family

Because I never watched that movie and it reminded me of the chainsaw guys in Resident Evil 4

Never played it.

Besides, it was a reference to TCM2

Dave had Bender's voice.

John DiMaggio.

[Vicky82]

What surprised me the most was that the dream beavers arn't mutants.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder why Donnie has no memory of April kissing him in the Bigfoot episode. The writers really need to keep tabs of where this ship is going.

[IndigoErth]

OH. One fave part though was the other Turtles in Raph's dream.

The Saw Is Family
Thanks :)

Ok is that a homage to something I'm missing...

[Allio]

What surprised me the most was that the dream beavers arn't mutants.


isn't the first time. I know the chinese ghost movie episode wasn't the best...but still

[TrickOrTreater]

isn't the first time. I know the chinese ghost movie episode wasn't the best...but still

The Big Trouble In Little China episode?

[JTH]

The Beavers had a weird feel like the Pac-Man Ghosts, everything down to their color and their names.

Dire, Dark, Dread, & Dave

Blinky, Pinky, Inky, & Clyde

[TigerClaw]

What surprised me the most was that the dream beavers arn't mutants.
But creatures from another Dimension? Nice to see animal characters who aren't mutants.

[IndigoErth]

Wait, I didn't see a preview for a next one... hmm :ohwell:

[TrickOrTreater]

Thanks :)

Ok is that a homage to something I'm missing...

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2?

Bill Moseley, who played the general store owner, played Chop Top in it.

[Allio]

I'd like to see these guys return


but we know they won't

[OrangeNinja1987]

I liked this episode, but it wasn't spectacular. I was hoping it to be a sort of sequel to Fungus Humongous with the nightmares being related to their fears (since that episode happened long enough ago for fears to change) and/or more extreme than in Fungus Humongous. I only saw that happening in this episode with Raphael with the snakes, so I suppose Karai has made him afraid of snakes otherwise it would have been cockroaches. Unless these nightmares weren't essentially their fears, but Raph did look pretty freaked out.
I was hoping to see Leonardo relive his fight with Shredder in his nightmare and wakes up by defeating him, and it would make him feel better about his defeat.
When Donnie ran into the school and the doors slammed open, I was hoping his nightmare would be students walking into the halls and seeing him, as Fungus Humongous suggested he's afraid of people judging him.
Since Mikey got Dave Beaver, I thought his dream should be a messed up sort of scary. Sort of like that small comic book part of the episode (reminded me of Mirage) and twisted into something really strange.
Raphael's was the best dream to watch. It brought up something new about his character, which is that he's afraid of snakes. Also, the heavy metal turtles were pretty cool. Donnie's was interesting too just because he's my favorite character and Leo's had an interesting concept.
Sincerely disappointed that the beavers' name (Dark, Dread, something else) had no obvious correlation to what they did. They were pretty much all Dark and then there was Dave.
Of course, the Nick writers aren't going to base the series on what I want. But this episode was entertaining and had some good parts (I still think Apritello can redeem itself so I liked the kiss she gave Donnie and how she was freaking out over him - "He's stopped breathing!"), but it had so much missed potential. :tcry:

[Vicky82]

Poor Leo still having trouble with his injured knee.

I actually started panicking when April said Donnie stopped breathing, I was like 'oh my god noooo'. :o

[TrickOrTreater]

so I suppose Karai has made him afraid of snakes otherwise it would have been cockroaches.

Why would you suppose that?

The dreams weren't about Turtles' fears. The dreams, save for Dave's/Mikey's, were just terrifying in general.

[PangolinFeets]

My fav of Season 3 so far. That was so much fun.

Also 'Insert Pizza here' had me rolling. Skating under the censors there.

[Syb3rStrife]

This episode was a lot better than I expected it to be.

Out of all the nightmares, Raph's surprised me the most. That was the most hardcore dream I've ever seen. I nearly died at the Heavy Metal Turtles.

As usual, Mikey's was sadly predictable. I still wish he had had a more creepier dream. I honesty kept expecting the Squirrelanoids to suddenly show up.

That Texas Chainsaw Massacre sh*t was pretty intense and scary as well. Same for the armless, legless turtles about to be devoured in flames. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of sleepless children tonight after that.

Also, loved the little comic book scene.

[Vicky82]

Why would you suppose that?

The dreams weren't about Turtles' fears. The dreams, save for Dave's/Mikey's, were just terrifying in general.

Yeah this, it wasn't a fear episode just about the turtles having nightmares (except for Mikey).

[IndigoErth]

I feel kinda bad for Leo thinking he's been miraculously healed and even better than ever and then, despite being a nightmare... it's one of those dreams you wake up and realize something good wasn't real. >.>

I nearly died at the Heavy Metal Turtles.
Loved that bit, hope a gif turns up.

[TrickOrTreater]

Yeah this, it wasn't a fear episode just about the turtles having nightmares (except for Mikey).

Same thing with Nightmare on Elm Street, which this episode was clearly an homage to.

The nightmares weren't about people's fears. Just f*cked up stuff in general to scare them.

God I'm loving this season even more than I usually do.

[TrickOrTreater]

Okay I know Robert Englund(Freddy Krueger), John Kassir(CryptKeeper), and I think John DiMaggio(Bender) were three of the Beavers. Anybody know the fourth?

[TrickOrTreater]

Better than I was expecting, but nothing spectacular. & I've wanted John Dimaggio on board since day one, but I think making him Dave was a waste. He should have been someone with impact, rather than a throwaway gag of a character. Frankly, I think I'm growing tired of all of the spooky psychedelics. Too much of a good thing often isn't good. I hate to say it, but even though I have enjoyed season 3's episodes very much, I am also super disappointed with them. Northampton arcs have always been synonymous with themes like isolation & introspection. It used to be about the turtles finding themselves & having down-time, leaning new things about one another & the world, getting in touch with nature, etc. Instead it's just been weekly wonky wacky weirdo monster/mutant madness.

I'm pretty sure all that's coming up with the walkabout/vision quest episode(s).

[Powder]

Better than I was expecting, but nothing spectacular. Frankly, I think I'm growing tired of all of the spooky psychedelics. Too much of a good thing often isn't good. I hate to say it, but even though I have enjoyed season 3's episodes very much, I am also super disappointed with them. Northampton arcs have always been synonymous with themes like isolation & introspection. It used to be about the turtles finding themselves & having down-time, leaning new things about one another & the world, getting in touch with nature, etc. Instead it's just been weekly wonky wacky weirdo monster/mutant madness.

[Mona_Lisa]

Thanks for the heads up about this ep. being scary.. I was trying to decide if I was going to let my girls watch it with me!:D

[TrickOrTreater]

Thanks for the heads up about this ep. being scary.. I was trying to decide if I was going to let my girls watch it with me!:D

The dreams are really quick and only intense for a few seconds. Shouldn't be a big deal.

EDIT: Hell, I'd say the Mom Thing episode was scarier than this episode. Even The Creep episode.

[TigerClaw]

The dreams are really quick and only intense for a few seconds. Shouldn't be a big deal.

EDIT: Hell, I'd say the Mom Thing episode was scarier than this episode. Even The Creep episode.
There is one part when all the Turtles were in the same dream and then.
a shot of the Turtles on a conveyor belt, looking like there arms and legs were amputated in there shells.
a little bit disturbing

[Powder]

Their* arms & legs were not amputated, they were in the shells... :trolleye:

[TigerClaw]

Their* arms & legs were not amputated, they were in the shells... :trolleye:
Are you sure? cause it looked like they had no limbs, and they were unable to move.

[IndigoErth]

a little bit disturbing
Agree.

Even if prob not amputated, I could do without that to be honest... How it's portrayed is kinda creepy to me, esp with more human-like proportions/limbs and isn't how that works anyhow.

[Luckyday]

Agree.

Even if prob not amputated, I could do without that to be honest... How it's portrayed is kinda creepy to me, esp with more human-like proportions/limbs and isn't how that works anyhow.

Their organs must be small. Either that or their organs deflate like a balloon.

[IndigoErth]

Either that or their organs deflate like a balloon.
lol And just heard the movie line "Mikey, was that you?"

[Autbot_Benz]

that episode was Meh Northhampton is boring

[Autbot_Benz]

new movie what donnie say about mikey pass gas?

i think this episode ok not best sorry. some my closed captioning all mess up
sometime who say mikey, was you?.

um http://i60.tinypic.com/2ugj85j.jpg

[Powder]

How about using a meme that doesn't have the F word in it?

[Luckyday]

lol And just heard the movie line "Mikey, was that you?"

The sound of turtle retreating inside their shell does a hissing noise. Yup probably it.:lol:

[BabyTurtles]

aside from Raph's dream.

I didn't really like the episode.....It was.....okay.

would be really great to have an episode that actually had some important information in it. (that didn't involve April)

[Ashwolf]

did any1 happen to get it on dvr? if any1 did plz, pm me, i missed the live stream and having trouble finding it online yet

[Luckyday]

aside from Raph's dream.

I didn't really like the episode.....It was.....okay.

would be really great to have an episode that actually had some important information in it. (that didn't involve April)

Yeah..I'm still not a fan of the physic power thing either.

Do you think it would have been less annoying if there are mechanics or a science behind it? Maybe some well thought green kryptonite?

And don't think that April is the only one that gets away with it. Splinter has "funny feeling" moments too. Although it a lot less then April.

[BabyTurtles]

Yeah..I'm still not a fan of the physic power thing either.

Do you think it would have been less annoying if there are mechanics or a science behind it? Maybe some well thought green kryptonite?

And don't think that April is the only one that gets away with it. Splinter has "funny feeling" moments too. Although it a lot less then April.

Well Splinter's a ninja master with years of meditation under his belt.

Would have been much better if April could connect with technology or something, instead of random funny feelings that can randomly save the day.

and even if some of it is explained later I still hate how much of a cop out it is.

[Leofan26]

Hmm, the episode had it's moments but still meh.

Well, at least we didn't get that awful love triangle mixed into it :o

Haven't been really enjoying season three much folks sorry.

Main plot come back please! I miss you :cry:

[Autbot_Benz]

Hmm, the episode had it's moments but still meh.

Well, at least we didn't get that awful love triangle mixed into it :o

Haven't been really enjoying season three much folks sorry.

Main plot come back please! I miss you :cry:

I agree with you. I have been looking for the Main Plot but it seems to be lost until Ciro wants it to return.

[Wildcat]

Was this supposed to be a Freddy Krueger themed episode?

It was ok. I think the beavers should have been something else, like sleep orientated...maybe evil teddy bears.

I know they just used beavers for random silliness.

[BabyTurtles]

I agree with you. I have been looking for the Main Plot but it seems to be lost until Ciro wants it to return.

It's just hard to enjoy an episode when a huge elephant is in the room and that elephant is....THE KRAANG ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD!!!

[Luckyday]

I agree with you. I have been looking for the Main Plot but it seems to be lost until Ciro wants it to return.

Ciro gives off a impression that he's not really into story, plot or even character driven arcs. He more of a conceptual type of guy and once he gets bored with something, he'll just move on to the next big thing instead of going deeper of what he had create in the beginning.

Kind of shame but I guess it best to start looking at this show as more an TMNT anthology. Story lines and plot are going to have to take a backseat.
That just the way it is.:(

[Jester]

did you hate deaf people? deaf not dumb right?

It isn't some sort of hatred of the deaf. Your posts are just quite difficult to read.

[IndigoErth]

And don't think that April is the only one that gets away with it. Splinter has "funny feeling" moments too. Although it a lot less then April.
Well Splinter's a ninja master with years of meditation under his belt.
Along with the 'fact' that, where Splinter is concerned, some of it could be considered driven by a "father's intuition," be it about his kids or general protection of his family.

April however...yeah, magic alien powers. *sigh* I suppose to some extent it's good though she's at least of some use and not just a hanger on. But lets keep the April saves the day stuff to a minimum (That includes you, Megan Fox.)

[Autbot_Benz]

Jstr4life

It isn't some sort of hatred of the deaf. Your posts are just quite difficult to read.

this guy gets it.

[victory_angel]

I guy who hasn't slept for 40 years...that physically impossible.

[Powder]

But the dream haunting, demonic beavers, giant talking turtles, psychic ginger & all that jazz are totally normal, plausible things, right?

[IndigoErth]

"You see them, too?"

[Warhorse]

aside from Raph's dream.

I didn't really like the episode.....It was.....okay.

would be really great to have an episode that actually had some important information in it. (that didn't involve April)

Yeah, this episode had like, no character development whatsoever. I was hoping the time at the farm house would be a good time to brush up on some character development, but it's like they are afraid to go on nomore than 25 second without something tragic happening. The only thing I really liked, was how delicate April was with Donnie when he was sleeping, cradling his head in her arms. That was cute. But, this show needs some more substance. I don't know what's happening, but why can't they just write a decent story that isn't OTT and stupid?

[Luckyday]

Yeah, this episode had like, no character development whatsoever. I was hoping the time at the farm house would be a good time to brush up on some character development, but it's like they are afraid to go on nomore than 25 second without something tragic happening. The only thing I really liked, was how delicate April was with Donnie when he was sleeping, cradling his head in her arms. That was cute. But, this show needs some more substance. I don't know what's happening, but why can't they just write a decent story that isn't OTT and stupid?

It's never going to be like it was in season 1. It's an anthology show now. Trust me, if you stop seeing this show as a whole, it becomes much more enjoyable.

[Blade Raider]

So...A Nightmare on Elm Street turned 30 this year (last Friday to be exact), Tales from the Crypt turned 25, and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre turned 40. All of the guest cast are from these three franchises. Now that is how you kill three anniversaries with one episode.


Ps Got Curd?
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m556/Blade_Raider/GotCurd.png

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

So Raph misses big fights like the finale, gets turned into a flower, has zero going on with his character (he doesn't even much of a friendship with Casey anymore, he's too busy in the April/Don/Casey thing)a nd is now afraid of both cockroaches AND snakes.

How much MORE of a wimp/useless/altogether Pansy are they going to turn this guy into...seriously.

[TrickOrTreater]

Yeah, this episode had like, no character development whatsoever. I was hoping the time at the farm house would be a good time to brush up on some character development, but it's like they are afraid to go on nomore than 25 second without something tragic happening. The only thing I really liked, was how delicate April was with Donnie when he was sleeping, cradling his head in her arms. That was cute. But, this show needs some more substance. I don't know what's happening, but why can't they just write a decent story that isn't OTT and stupid?

Do people just hate fun?

It's a family cartoon show. There are going to be filler episodes. It happens literally all the time.

TMNT is no different.

So...A Nightmare on Elm Street turned 30 this year (last Friday to be exact), Tales from the Crypt turned 25, and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre turned 40. All of the guest cast are from these three franchises. Now that is how you kill three anniversaries with one episode.

Kill? In what way?

So Raph misses big fights like the finale, gets turned into a flower, has zero going on with his character (he doesn't even much of a friendship with Casey anymore, he's too busy in the April/Don/Casey thing)a nd is now afraid of both cockroaches AND snakes.

How much MORE of a wimp/useless/altogether Pansy are they going to turn this guy into...seriously.

He's no more afraid of snakes than he is of heavy metal. The Beavers didn't use the Turtles' fears against them, just scary imagery in general.

Leo isn't afraid of getting superpowers and then getting beaten up by a huge Beaver demon. They're dreams, they're not meant to be taken literally.

[Electric]

But the dream haunting, demonic beavers, giant talking turtles, psychic ginger & all that jazz are totally normal, plausible things, right?

"physic ginger" :tlol:

while were speaking of the impossible, so casey isnt left out, might as well add blocking a chainsaw with a wooden bat

So Raph misses big fights like the finale, gets turned into a flower, has zero going on with his character (he doesn't even much of a friendship with Casey anymore, he's too busy in the April/Don/Casey thing)a nd is now afraid of both cockroaches AND snakes.

How much MORE of a wimp/useless/altogether Pansy are they going to turn this guy into...seriously.

firstly, the cockroach thing is similar to most other incarnations where he hates bugs. next, whos to say he fears snakes, that was just a giant serpent slithering around trying to eat him, anyone would be terrified. Would like to also point out, character wise, that raph has developed his character by trying to get leo back to health. in almost every episode so far, hes in some way trying to get leo back on his feet, and if not, hes training the other two. and, to add more, raph was involved in the finale fight, in part of the turtle mech. and in this season, he was the last turtle standing in buried secrets, getting some good fights in, oh, and in the croaking as well.

seriously, how hard are you trying to view raph as this. i understand he hasnt received a large amount of development, but come on? he's not a useless wimpy pansy youre trying to make him out to be

[Mellie]

Aww come on, Raph's nightmare was badass. :D I loved this episode so much.

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[TrickOrTreater]

Aww come on, Raph's nightmare was badass. :D I loved this episode so much.

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metalturtles_zpspzqxwval.gif http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metaldonnie_zpszltxdhux.gif

F*cking Turtle metal!

[Lethal Lullaby]

XD I'm sorry, but soon as Raphael's dream started I about died. :lol: What the hell??

[Elysian Cats]

Aww come on, Raph's nightmare was badass. :D I loved this episode so much.

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metalturtles_zpspzqxwval.gif http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metaldonnie_zpszltxdhux.gif

Raph's dream was so sick!!! I loved it.

This is definitely one of the better episodes I've seen of the series. I can tell that the writers and animators are having a lot of fun with the episodes this season, and it shows in the energy of the show. This episode had so many disturbing moments (Casey almost getting cut up by a chainsaw), but I still loved the surreal ending. Casey grew on me a lot in this episode because he managed to be the one to really save the day. I also enjoyed April's attention toward Donatello. I was seriously worried that after that episode where she kissed him on the lips, they were going to act like it never happened.

[Rukitron]

please tell me the monster car ep is the LAST horror movie homage ep. I'm getting tired of watching TMNT Goosebumps.

[TrickOrTreater]

please tell me the monster car ep is the LAST horror movie homage ep. I'm getting tired of watching TMNT Goosebumps.

Man I'm not. I love the horror genre. This season has been a dream.

squirrelanoids/xenomorphs and Newtralizer/Predator episodes were just the icing on the soon to be cake that is season 3.

This is the best.

[IndigoErth]

Aww come on, Raph's nightmare was badass. :D I loved this episode so much.

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metalturtles_zpspzqxwval.gif http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metaldonnie_zpszltxdhux.gif
Ahh yay, ty, was hoping those gifs would happen. :D

And now when I wanted to save them they refuse to load. >.>

[Powder]

please tell me the monster car ep is the LAST horror movie homage ep. I'm getting tired of watching TMNT Goosebumps.

I wouldn't be so sure, as we know that Muckman's due to have an appearance soon, in The Noxious Offender (which I can only assume will be a Toxic Avenger parody).
Even if Muckman is a good guy, he's gross & gnarly in design. So it's reasonable to expect some horror nods & dark visuals.

[GoldenFlither]

So...maybe I shouldn't have let my kids watch this one. Even my eldest was covering his eyes during that conveyer belt scene, and he's usually quite the brave little soul. He likes to tell us "I'm not scared" when he's halfway behind the couch.

Still it was very good. That Dave Beaver was very funny. And I would like to see the Turtles start a heavy metal band. But...my goodness, easy with some of that imagery is all. (It looked like severed limbs!)

[Metalwolf]

Best episode of Season 3 so far. I loved the supernatural elements in this episode, as I was slightly worried that these Beavers would end up being glorified mutants.

Turns out that's not the case :D

And I agree with you TrickOrTreater, this season kicks butt. :P

As far as character development goes, the Turtles still seem to get quite a bit as far as I can tell. I'm not as worried as I used to be, since I know in time they will get back to New York, so I'm enjoying the ride. We're seeing a side of them that is getting 'prepped' to go back to New York, especially since the supernatural elements will likely be the same kind that prompts the vision quest. I'd rather have some not so serious episodes sprinkled in, because 'deep' and serious stuff would get boring if that was all there was.

[Karai Samurai]

"You see them, too?"

I'm a bit surprised by the mixed reviews for this episode. This is definetly my favorite season three episode by far. While I am getting a bit bored with the horror theme, this was a great stand alone ep. Honestly, I was really hoping that the Northampton episodes would be relatively freak of the week free so we can focus on character development, but Ciro didnt hire me. Speaking of development, Raph is quickly becoming my favorite turtle. His dream was soooo bad ass (bass Donnie!) and I'm loving how caring he is with Leo. For context, Donnie was my favorite season one and I liked them equally last season. Raph takes the cake, now. More Raph and Casey, less love triangle, plz. And ugh freaking psychic ginger. While I do want to see development, I really don't care to see April's powers getting developed. I'd rather see a non-tease April with a personality than one with magical powers.

Anyway, love this episode. Not in love with this season, though.

Also, took five episodes, but I'm not missing Biggs anymore. Seth is perfect.

[Turtle-X]

this was a weird but good episode. though, i'm past ready for the Turtles to get back to the city already.

[PangolinFeets]

Aww come on, Raph's nightmare was badass. :D I loved this episode so much.

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metalturtles_zpspzqxwval.gif http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metaldonnie_zpszltxdhux.gif

Omg I love you. I need those in my life.

[Vicky82]

I can't believe no one mentioned the Mirage homage. The Turtles in the comic book dream and Mikey saying "phew, back in the real world" :lol:

When Donnie thought he woke up in his bed, then he looked under under his bed, but then lifted himself back up to have a beaver right behind him, it's a reference to Poltergiest with the boy and the posessed clown toy.

[ObiWanFan4life]

That was was an amusing if ordinary episode. I liked the dream sequences (Raph's in particular) and the horror references, but like A Foot Too Big, this wasn't my favorite episode of the show. I give it a 7/10.

[MrTMNT2012]

I liked the beginning with the Turtles training...an episode dedicated to that would be nice.

This one was just weird but I did like all the horror references and the hardcore visuals! The first shot in Raph's nightmare was the most interesting to me.

Decent episode. (6.5/10)

[drgon78]

Great episode, loved the ending. I liked the fact the dream beavers were not mutants but supernatural creatures from another dimension.

[Guitar_Raph]

Can't believe Raph's nightmare where the bad dudes played as a band.

I saw a bass guitar & a drummer in that sequence! Could've been worse, they could've had TMNT playing as a band again, Everyone would groan & I would say COOL!

[BubblyShell22]

That was definitely one weird episode, but I totally didn't hate it one bit. My favorite dream was Leo's and his was connected to a fear as he fears he won't ever get better. I loved how he was training and how he hasn't quite healed up yet, but we all know he will eventually. It's good to see he's progressing. As for the other Turtles, their dreams were okay, but I loved Leo's the best, though Raph's comes in second with the heavy metal Turtles and the snakes. Loved how Casey saved the day and how April was being all attentive to Donnie and even though she was using her psychic powers, it wasn't working on them. Overall, a pretty neat episode. Dave was my favorite Beaver, too.

"Shut up, Dave!"

Also loved the quote where Leo said, "I am awake and I've got super powers and I'm fighting a giant beaver." Just the way Seth said it made me laugh so hard.

Didn't see a preview for the next ep. I so hope we aren't going on a hiatus again.

[Vicky82]

Oh my god, wow, this episode was disturbing but I did enjoy it.

John Kassir and Robert Englund did a great job voicing the Dream Beavers.

Leo had Dire, Raph had Dread, Donnie had Dark and Mikey had Dave.

Was hoping that Mikey was going to get one of the nightmare Beavers but he had Dave the good dream beaver but it was a dark episode and and it needed a light hearted moment, so it made sense that it was best for Mikey to have a good dream to balance it out a bit so not to scare kids too much.

I was shocked that Donnie stopped breathing :o (and that April said the turtles had no pulse) as I never seen it happen in any other version (not counting the 2K3 episode SAINW). It proves Nickelodeon has guts.

Moments

Nice to see the turtles (except Donnie) training more and Leo getting better.
Ouch!!! Leo still having trouble with that knee.
Aww, Mikey was trying to help Leo but Leo got frustrated and pushed him.
Bernie the Store owner is creepy.
Loved some of the references here, A cereal called Psych O's and a comic book called Tales of the Cosmos.
Aww, poor Leo thinks he won't get better.
Lol Mikey drawing over Leo's face.
Lol Donnie got pants on his face.
Donnie snores, that's cute.
Oh my god!!!! Raph's dream was insane, creepy faces, snakes, the turtles in a heavy metal rock band.
Lol Mikey has a good dream, running around the place full of candy, similar to Homer Simpson's land of chocolate dream.
Aww April is holding Donnie's head against her chest.
Lol, Leo and Dire Beaver stopped in mid fight so Leo could answer the T Phone
Oh my god!!!! Creepy store owner is fighting Casey with a chainsaw, reference to Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
I like the guys story and it explained that the dream beavers are not mutants but are from another dimension.
Yikes!!! Donnie broke Dark Beaver's Jaw and the beaver put it back in place.
Lol, Mikey farted.
Love the Mirage reference when the Turtles are in a comic book and then Mikey says "phew, back in the real world".
Oh my god!!!!!! The turtles on a convayor belt and have no arms and legs, thats pretty disturbing. :o
My god!!!!! Donnie stopped breathing, he stopped breathing, quick, April give him mouth to mouth. :o
Aww, April kissed Donnie
Aww, those beavers are tiny.

[BubblyShell22]

You might want to change the title of the thread to "In Dreams" since that's the name of the episode. Just a heads up.

[zipper]

This was not the perfect episode by any means, but it's not the worst either. It's problems are that it's a bit scary for children, yet another filler episode, and it's another dream episode.

But it wasn't all that bad either. I like the visually dark episodes but I'm not a horror fan. I much prefer comedy and action shows over romance/drama or horror. What was great about this episode is that April and Casey go somewhere other then the farmhouse or the woods, Mikey's dream and dream beaver are hilarious, and as far as a dream episode goes, this one is my favorite so far.

Even though I thought this was a bit too scary for kids, I don't think it went as far as they have gone before with scary or weird episodes. I'd say that this was a solid 7/10.

[aliena]

So much to love about this episode as a stand alone episode.

Raph's dream with the rock band was very cool
The way April tenderly took care of Raph and Donnie
Dave the Beaver, Mikey's equivalent
The fight scene in the beginning
Casey fighting for the Turtles and helping them on his own
Raph's care of Leo, which I still think is foreshadowing
It was good to see NY again, even as a dream
Insert Pizza here and Underwear on Donnie's face
Raph telling Mikey not to do anything to him
All the horror actor voices
Leo rebounding by the end, it was as if the dream was healing for him somehow.

Things I didn't care for

April kissing Donnie on the cheek for the millionth time and then he doesn't remember it? Why is this relationship stuck in neutral?
Bernie looks like Clint Howard, why wasn't he voiced by him too?
The shelled turtles that Mikey is clinging too and the guys on that conveyor belt was so freaky, dark freaky.

As much as I liked this episode as a whole, if I were still binging this series I would be ff through most of these to get back to the real story. I miss Splinter, Shredder, Karai, NY, the sewer, even the Kraang. If they are going to stay in the woods much longer they need to add some new characters or one main bad guy or something to create some character development.

[Rukitron]

I wouldn't be so sure, as we know that Muckman's due to have an appearance soon, in The Noxious Offender (which I can only assume will be a Toxic Avenger parody).
Even if Muckman is a good guy, he's gross & gnarly in design. So it's reasonable to expect some horror nods & dark visuals.

Eh Troma, I'll let that slide because that was a comedy.

[kelligrafie]

please tell me the monster car ep is the LAST horror movie homage ep. I'm getting tired of watching TMNT Goosebumps.

To be fair, the fanbase had two seasons of homages to a good portion of the TMNT franchise.

Now I feel like the shows makers are getting to add in a few of their own personal homages to other shows and films that they admire and I don't think we should begrudge them that.

A lot of fans, whether they will admit to it or not, will have had at some point, an idea for a TMNT crossover in their heads. Why not the team? They're fan boys just like the rest of us.

I doubt that the horror theme will encompass the entire shows run from now on.

I'm not even a horror fan, I hate horror films But I've enjoyed the last few episodes a lot.

[madyankees]

Hmmm... I'm seriously not liking Season 3 so far. :x

[travelingcat]

Wow, glad I didn't peek in here before watching the episode. This episode wasn't that bad. They took full advantage of it being a dream episode with a ton of weird imaginary and reused a lot of old sets. April's psychic powers were used smartly trying to reach the turtles in their dreams instead of being a last minute cop out like in The Kraang Conspiracy, The Invasion, and Buried Secrets. Casey was great confronting the store owner and saving the day.

It was kinda sad seeing Leo get frustrated with his leg still hurting then overjoyed in the dream when it's suddenly better. Raph's dream...I was lost. The heavy metal thing flew over my head at the time. :lol: Mikey's dream was on par for the course with him. Gotta have some cute imagines to lighten the tension between the other nightmares. If, um, you don't consider balls and lollipops with faces scary. Though nothing beats the conveyor belt scene on the creep-o-meter.

It's great that the beavers are supernatural from another world and not just another mutant. It's also hilarious that they were actually these little beavers instead of a great sealed evil the guy thought they were. Though out of the 4, Dave's kinda the scariest. His cutesy appearance and derpy attitude would lower his victim's guard despite being just has evil and dream eating happy as the other beavers. And I would like plushies of these guys.

[aliena]

Wow, glad I didn't peek in here before watching the episode. This episode wasn't that bad. They took full advantage of it being a dream episode with a ton of weird imaginary and reused a lot of old sets. April's psychic powers were used smartly trying to reach the turtles in their dreams instead of being a last minute cop out like in The Kraang Conspiracy, The Invasion, and Buried Secrets. Casey was great confronting the store owner and saving the day.

It was kinda sad seeing Leo get frustrated with his leg still hurting then overjoyed in the dream when it's suddenly better. Raph's dream...I was lost. The heavy metal thing flew over my head at the time. :lol: Mikey's dream was on par for the course with him. Gotta have some cute imagines to lighten the tension between the other nightmares. If, um, you don't consider balls and lollipops with faces scary. Though nothing beats the conveyor belt scene on the creep-o-meter.

It's great that the beavers are supernatural from another world and not just another mutant. It's also hilarious that they were actually these little beavers instead of a great sealed evil the guy thought they were. Though out of the 4, Dave's kinda the scariest. His cutesy appearance and derpy attitude would lower his victim's guard despite being just has evil and dream eating happy as the other beavers. And I would like plushies of these guys.

Not just plushies, I'd like a whole series of these guys just to see where they are from and how they work and how they came to be together. I guess it would be too dark and they are bad guys, but someone could work something out. :P

[TurtleTitan97]

Weirdest episode by far. LOVED IT! :tlol:

[Warhorse]

Hmmm... I'm seriously not liking Season 3 so far. :x

Neither am I. It's crap. My little cousins, who were hard core fans of the first two seasons, lost interest in it already. They started to watch the Star Wars cartoon on Disney and are getting all pumped for that world now.

[Toadtrooper]

The only way this 22 minutes of story cliches and incoherent ideas could have possibly been worse is if, instead of a redneck physicist store owner crackpot, it was John Mulaney.

I miss Shredder.

NEXT. Actually, I'm probably just going to skip the next one...

[snake]

Just saw this episode. It was alright, but not perfect.

[miru]

I like how the baddies were surprisingly, not mutants! That's unique, for a filler episode.

[Vicky82]

IGN review is up.

Max gives it a 8.0

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/11/15/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-in-dreams-review

[snake]

I like how the baddies were surprisingly, not mutants! That's unique, for a filler episode.

That was pretty neat. We still need human villains in my opinion.

[IndigoErth]

Was hoping that Mikey was going to get one of the nightmare Beavers but he had Dave the good dream beaver but it was a dark episode and and it needed a light hearted moment, so it made sense that it was best for Mikey to have a good dream to balance it out a bit so not to scare kids too much.
I dunno, not so sure about Dave being good. It looked all nice and fun but he was wearing Mikey out and told him he was draining his life force, or whatever they called it. I think Dave was as bad as the rest, but in a really twisted sort of way.

The rest might be scary and try to terrify their victims... Dave is prob the one that will seem all friendly and fun and give you candy that's completely poisoned and giggle while he watches you die from it.:teek:


Oh, and my tv listings don't show a repeat for tomorrow, some other damn show's repeats are on instead. Wtf. :ohwell: Was it too scary for daytime airings?

Edit: In Raph's dream, was Mikey on the drums? Anyone seen a gif for that?

[Mellie]

Yea, Mikey was pounding on the drums with his 'chuks :lol:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/3bf458ed0be0ca158e8bb7d8031e3c3b/tumblr_nf2tif5nIM1sq6mn5o2_400.gif

[victory_angel]

Can't believe Raph's nightmare where the bad dudes played as a band.

I saw a bass guitar & a drummer in that sequence! Could've been worse, they could've had TMNT playing as a band again, Everyone would groan & I would say COOL!

Actually it did have the Turtles playing in the death metal band in Raph's dream. Donnie and Leo were shredding on the guitars and Mikey was on the drumbs.

[Knight_man]

Anyone notice ray fillet (manray) on one of the cans?

[IndigoErth]

Yea, Mikey was pounding on the drums with his 'chuks :lol:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/3bf458ed0be0ca158e8bb7d8031e3c3b/tumblr_nf2tif5nIM1sq6mn5o2_400.gif
:D Thanks!

Anyone notice ray fillet (manray) on one of the cans?
Good eye!

Wish I'd caught the repeat on the other channel last night and gotten a second look at everything going on, since it doesn't seem to be repeating tomorrow...or anywhere in my listings. >.>

[Ashwolf]

it was a pretty good ep though certainly not 1 of my favorites of the version, nearly burst out laughing when the beavers popped up in the room while the rest were standing there..... despite their nature, so freaking cute!!! typically im not 1 that buys much stuff relating to a show other than the ep sets but i would SOOOO get the plushies of them if they are made

bernie on the other hand, he has some serious mental issues, i mean yeah, he was trying to do what he thought was beneficial for the world but the lack of sleep seriously got to his head

the best part was when they showed up in that comic world

also nice to see more touching up regarding leos healing, felt bad for him when i saw his knee dislocate, ive had my knees dislocated before multiple times and its really painful at 1st

[Knight_man]

Here's the rest of the interesting stuff from the grocery store. Though nothing really sticks out to me. I did like the psych-o's cereal though.

[IndigoErth]

Here's the rest of the interesting stuff from the grocery store. Though nothing really sticks out to me. I did like the psych-o's cereal though.
:thumbsup:

Storylines aside, the folks behind the visuals never cease to amaze me with the amount of effort and talent they put in. Would be a dream job to be in there doing what they are.

That said, I assume Split magazine is their version of Mad? Looks like a similar font and set up of other elements happening there. :)

[PangolinFeets]

I don't know if this was mentioned but this was brought up in a FB group. They're based off these villains called the Terror Bears from the RPG? http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Terror_Bears

[blindturtle02]

Not a bad episode at all. Loved John Kassir and Englund's performances. I was rather glad they didn't do a rehashing of Fungus Humungous delving into the turtles' fears again. However, it would have been interesting to at least get a couple honorable mentions of NYC. Heck, even a couple Kraang mutants walking around in Donnie's dream would have been nice. I was hoping to see Shredder for at least a minute or so since the beavers are able to mess with the boys' heads. Ah well. Guess they're saving this for the vision quest episode. Fine by me. But the action scenes were terrific, and I had a blast watching this episode overall. Now I want a pet Dave. I love that guy.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, Dave has to be my favorite Beaver, too. Also am sad that the episode won't be on repeat tomorrow. I was really looking forward to that to see if they'd have a preview for next week's ep. Such a shame.

[snake]

Why won't it air tommorow?

[BubblyShell22]

Because some other show I don't care about is airing at that time. I think it's The Thundermans or whatever. So stupid. Maybe it's because of the nature of the episode or maybe it's because they just don't want to.

[Metalwolf]

Here's the rest of the interesting stuff from the grocery store. Though nothing really sticks out to me. I did like the psych-o's cereal though.I see Time Magazine (Timely) something from DC comics (hard to tell with the blur what it might be) some magazine on the upper row mentioning Chris Bradford (can't tell what it says in the smaller font, as it's too blurry) and another comic book with the titles 'Killer Koalas.' :P

[IndigoErth]

Because some other show I don't care about is airing at that time. I think it's The Thundermans or whatever. So stupid. Maybe it's because of the nature of the episode or maybe it's because they just don't want to.
Yeah, Thundermans...which itself says is a repeat. The hell?

Only thing I can figure is maybe it was "too scary" for weekend daytime hours, but they've repeated the other horror ones at that time? If they can put something else in TMNT's time slot, at the very least they could do the same and bump their repeat to a later hour... :ohwell:


Edit: See now, this bugs me... What's listed as being on Sunday night 8pm? (At least for my listings.) Full House. Two hours of it. The Turtles can be bumped from their repeat slot, but heaven forbid a show from the 80s that's been replayed a million times not lose a half hour.

[Rooish]

Wow that episode was pretty bad. I sometimes like one offs but that one was just too ridiculous, not to mention like really scary. They put such effort into awesome animation and visual effects, but not to plot or character.

[CyberCubed]

The episodes are fine, the only problem is they're too many similar episodes close together.

The "horror episodes" from Seasons 1 and 2 were spread apart, like the Squrielnoids episode wasn't right next to Parasita, etc.

[Metalwolf]

One thing I am wondering though, would people want this show to be straight serious plot? If they did all of the plot stuff right away without any of the 'filler' stuff to space it out, people might end up complaining that it's too rushed through and broody and not '80's' enough. The fillers have a purpose 8)

[Luckyday]

One thing I am wondering though, would people want this show to be straight serious plot? If they did all of the plot stuff right away without any of the 'filler' stuff to space it out, people might end up complaining that it's too rushed through and broody and not '80's' enough. The fillers have a purpose 8)

So they trying not to run out of steam and saving the plot heavy stuff for later future seasons?

I guess I can understand. There is a time and place for filler but really 10 episodes and putting them smack dab between a major event? That will only make people impatient.

Stand alone episodes are okay and it helps that there is a connecting theme, but for the future they should put the stand alones' after the story arc.

[ssjup81]

Wow, I loved this episode! Literally. Seems that with every ep that's been airing this season, I've liked it more than the previous one. At the moment, if I were to rank the episodes from favorite to least favorite, it would be...

A tie between ep 4 and this one.
A Foot too Big (the Finger! Seriously, it rekindled WWF Nostalgia feels. lol)
Mom-thing
Within the Woods

This ep was obviously homaging Nightmare on Elm Street or parts of the ep were paying a homage to it. I've only seen the first movie, of course not originally, given my age. I didn't finally see that movie until about six or seven years ago when they were replaying it in the old theater in my town for Halloween. My friend and I decided to go see it. A young Johnny Depp...always nice to see. lol Anyway, forgot to say, I liked this homage way more than the blatant Nightmare on Elm Street homage the OT did with Creepy Eddy.

The Dreambeavers were pretty interesting. Kassir and England were great! But man, poor Dave. "Shut up Dave!" :lol: Oh, and everyone's nightmares were fun! The interesting thing about dreams is that they don't have to make any sense. Obviously, for Donnie and I guess Mikey, there wasn't a fear or personal issue going on to trigger the dream.

Leo was feeling down about his knee still giving him trouble and his dream was about that and speaking of Leo, I'm sorry, I have no prob with Seth, but there was one line I would've loved to hear Biggs' take on. The one where he asked the Dream Beaver, "Am I dreaming you?" The line itself just made me laugh at how cute it was, and imagining Biggs saying it would've been funnier.

As for Raph's, which I love love love LOVED, I wonder if it was a fear. Not of snakes, but of Snake Karai harming the others (like she did him) and his inability to help his brothers given that he was tied up. Personally, I've always interpreted his character this way, based on season 1 eps and some season 2 moments. As for the metal band thing, that's probably a reference or homage to something else I'm not familiar with, but I was thinking when seeing it, "Yup, the turtles in a band would be nightmare material." *coughs*CotS*coughs* :tlol: Seriously, I actually thought of CotS.

Out of everyone's nightmare, I'm most curious if Raph's will somehow play a part in the Dark Raph arc later.

As for the humans of the group. I really enjoyed them two as well, Casey especially, and it was nice to see them going to the store, which raises the question...what are they doing for money? In all honesty, at the beginning, I was wondering if April was going to be a decoy while Casey snatched stuff. He looked like he was going to steal something, didn't it? That aside, I like how he went back to confront the store owner over what was happening. He was really pulling through for his friends.

April trying to use her sense to get to all four turtles was good too, and to be honest, this didn't surprise me. This is the first time, unless I missed something, where April has used her mental powers and had control over it...like she was focusing and using Splinter's teachings. All the other times, she was in presence of the Kraang or all of her powers affected only stuff Kraang or Kraang related and also when overwhelmed or stressed, like in Kraang Conspiracy when they were hurting Raph, or in Mom-thing when Raph and Casey were finally taken by The Thing. They do all still train, including April (she said so in A Foot too Big and we saw her training in Within the Woods), so maybe she meditates and is training the mental power as best she can without a mentor presence. To me, this is what they're doing regarding her power. I don't feel it's from out of nowhere because of WHEN they're usually used, when she's not in control and under duress from the Kraang or she senses something is off which is normal for people in a general sense, with her it's just more enhanced...but it does bug me when she does get that sense, and states the obvious. Like, "Um...you didn't need your sixth sense for that." lol It's like that old Submariner cartoon from the 60s. For one of them, there was this huge alien sea monster thing outside of the building. The Submariner was like, "My mutant brain senses there's trouble" or something like that and I was like, "Um...look out the window. Everyone in that building you're in would know something's off." :p

Donnie was obviously in the deepest sleep. By the looks of it, he was the only one dreaming within a dream at one point. I also feel that April may have come across as most worried over Donnie because he was asleep the longest. When she and Casey left, they saw that the other three were the only ones training. They found Donnie in bed, which would kind of indicate that he'd never left it from the previous night or whenever.

He also stopped breathing, there was no indication saying the other three had (as I'm sure she would've realized it, as she'd been checking up on all four). I get the impression that Leo would've been next to fall victim, as he was the second one to get dragged into the dream world. Then Raph and then Mikey. I'm sure that if Leo had been the one to fall asleep first, then he would've been in Donnie's state, but it wouldn't have made sense to, as we wouldn't have been able to see that his knee was truly still a problem if it'd started with him in the dream right away.

So yeah, that's how I felt about the ep. Really liked it. Wonder if the Dreambeavers will come back.

Oh and which Beaver was which? Dave was easy to remember. lol He was probably the most dangerous of the Beavers. He comes across as the least threatening and then strikes. So I'm sure he's the most underestimated, just like how Mikey underestimated him and Dave pretty much said, "I'm killing you slowly." Okay, not like that, but you get what I mean.

[BabyTurtles]

One thing I am wondering though, would people want this show to be straight serious plot? If they did all of the plot stuff right away without any of the 'filler' stuff to space it out, people might end up complaining that it's too rushed through and broody and not '80's' enough. The fillers have a purpose 8)

I think every episode should improve something.

Whether it's an episode improving a character or the plot.

we should only have like...1-2 episodes in a season that are true TRUE fillers. (don't improve on anything)

but so far we have like 3 filler episodes.....it's annoying. At least teach some lesson. A foot too big would have improved Donnie's character, but it didn't cause he's still acting like a fool in front of April, so it's a filler.

Nothing improving is boring to watch.

[ssjup81]

Neither am I. It's crap. My little cousins, who were hard core fans of the first two seasons, lost interest in it already. They started to watch the Star Wars cartoon on Disney and are getting all pumped for that world now.So....because you don't like it, it's automatically crap or because your younger cousins lost interest it is? Gotta love subjectivity. There's a chance they would've lost interest anyway.

[Jester]

Who else is singing
xZKuzwPOefs
only modified when they see this episode title?

Just me? Ok...

[Jephael]

rtDAK7Umk7A

All I'm gonna say is I hope the beavers come back at some point just to see them lampoon this legendary joke.

[Mellie]

Who else is singing

only modified when they see this episode title?

Just me? Ok...

I've been doing this all week :twink:

[Jephael]

Who hasn't? Hell Black Nerd started his video review with it.

[Bitsy83]

Man, where to start with this review? I liked this a WHOLE lot better than I was expecting, honestly. Especially since the Beavers were voiced by two guys who were responsible for many of my childhood nightmares. Well, I take that back: Kassir was responsible for my nightmares; Englund gave me insomnia.

And watching it a second time, I noticed something about the Beavers.

Dark and Dave were voiced by John Kassir (Crpytkeeper)
Dire and Dread were voiced by Robert Englund (Freddy Kruger)

Dark - Donnie
Dave - Mikey
Dire - Leo
Dread - Raph

You guys getting the connection here? Englund voiced the beavers on Team A and Kassir voiced the beavers for Team B.

Not really relevant, but it caught my attention. Plus someone mentioned how they didn't know which Beaver was voiced by which actor, so there you go.

Plus I noticed how each dream was unique between the Turtles.

Donnie had your basic run-chase dream. Where no matter where you go or where you hide, the thing chasing you will always be right there!
(Also, just thought I'd bring this up, I watched this episode early this morning before work on iTunes and the minute it had Donnie "wake up" in the house, my parent's alarm clock went off. I'm not kidding; it was at the EXACT MOMENT! I thought it was from the cartoon and couldn't figure out why the alarm kept going even when Dark appeared behind Donnie. Apparently, mom thought it was my computer as well. Freaky, right?)

Leo had the "fighting for your life" dream. I know a lot of people think that it relates to Leo's fear of never getting better, but it was almost a "good" dream for Leo since he was all better and stronger, so maybe the purpose of Dire's dream was to keep Leo in a state of a never ending adrenaline rush. You know, to use up his life force quicker.

Raph's dream was almost like a torture dream. I really didn't feel any "Karai" connections, but maybe Dread used a bit of the memory in Raph's sub conscience to use a basis. Besides, I don't care how much you love snakes or if you have a pet python you snuggle with every day; if you were in Raph's position, you'd be scared out of your mind!

And I think Mikey was in the most dangerous dream of all. Yeah, yeah, Dave's an idiot, but if the purpose of the Dream Beavers is to keep you trapped in a dream and feed off your energy, why not make it more like a moth being drawn to a flame? Mikey thought he was perfectly safe in a world filled with talking lollipops and cute cuddly beavers who want to play with you, so he was completely at the mercy of Dave.

There's just one thing that bothers me about this episode: We're going to get SOOOOOOOOO many slash fan art (category, not character) of the Beavers and the Turtles, especially Donnie and Dark ("My salty little friend....") Tell me I'm not the only one who could picture Donnie screaming "I NEED AN ADULT!!! I NEED AN ADULT!!!"

[Jester]

I've been doing this all week :twink:
Who hasn't? Hell Black Nerd started his video review with it.
Now I hate myself....

[ssjup81]

Man, where to start with this review? I liked this a WHOLE lot better than I was expecting, honestly. Especially since the Beavers were voiced by two guys who were responsible for many of my childhood nightmares. Well, I take that back: Kassir was responsible for my nightmares; Englund gave me insomnia.

And watching it a second time, I noticed something about the Beavers.

Dark and Dave were voiced by John Kassir (Crpytkeeper)
Dire and Dread were voiced by Robert Englund (Freddy Kruger)

Dark - Donnie
Dave - Mikey
Dire - Leo
Dread - RaphThanks for this. I knew who voiced which beaver, but other than Dave, I couldn't recall which turtle had which beaver by name other than Dave.There's just one thing that bothers me about this episode: We're going to get SOOOOOOOOO many slash fan art (category, not character) of the Beavers and the Turtles, especially Donnie and Dark ("My salty little friend....") Tell me I'm not the only one who could picture Donnie screaming "I NEED AN ADULT!!! I NEED AN ADULT!!!"You know, I could so picture Donnie saying that...in general. You know like when he gets manic and neurotic...yep, I could see it.

[IndigoErth]

Tell me I'm not the only one who could picture Donnie screaming "I NEED AN ADULT!!! I NEED AN ADULT!!!"
Yeah, that 'salty' line was a little... "uh, wut?" lol Not even a sea turtle... maybe someone needs to bathe more.

Sorry, Donnie, the nearest adult is the crazy old guy who bought the shop. And I think he'll be asleep for a few weeks.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah, that 'salty' line was a little... "uh, wut?" lol Not even a sea turtle... maybe someone needs to bathe more.

Sorry, Donnie, the nearest adult is the crazy old guy who bought the shop. And I think he'll be asleep for a few weeks.

Bernie should be dead! lol He hasn't slept in 40 years? Jeez. What? Is he a Kraang too?

[ssjup81]

Bernie should be dead! lol He hasn't slept in 40 years? Jeez. What? Is he a Kraang too?There is an actual, rare condition where one doesn't need sleep. Forgot the name, but yeah, in Bernie's case, he should be dead since he chose to stay awake. lol I actually thought there was going to be a supernatural reveal to him too after he said that.

Anyway, did anyone notice the "Got Milk" poster in the store? It had Bradford on it, though and it said, "Got Curd?" :lol:

[Warhorse]

One thing I am wondering though, would people want this show to be straight serious plot? If they did all of the plot stuff right away without any of the 'filler' stuff to space it out, people might end up complaining that it's too rushed through and broody and not '80's' enough. The fillers have a purpose 8)

I don't need serious, but I would like something that's just not stupid. I loved the eps like Monkey Brains, It Came From the Depths, Cockroach Terminator and Fungus Humungous. The new eps are just too OTT, ridiculous, and down right dumb. There is no witty humor, or truly hysterical moments like before. I have a feeling it's all due to the fact that this new guy, Brandon Auman, who wrote a few of the dumber episodes, and did some editing of the better ones in the past is all of a sudden head writer and head producer, and the guy probably doesn't know what the hell he is doing. The producers/Nick is probably spending all of their production costs on big name voice actors which nobody but a small group of people in the world really give a fu^&*ck about, but in the end, short changing the writers. You could have the biggest name celebrities you could think of in a movie/tv show, but if the writing sucks, not all of the oscar caliber acting in the world is going to save it. I think they should hire some really good writers to come back and draft some better thought out plots. Right now, the show is slowly losing my interest. Only reason why I hang on, it's because I'm a TMNT fan. But, what are the regular "casuals" going to think when they tune in? I bet they will be flipping through the stations, see TMNT, and wonder how come they are fighting a weird big foot, instead of using ninja moves against a serious opponent.

So....because you don't like it, it's automatically crap or because your younger cousins lost interest it is? Gotta love subjectivity. There's a chance they would've lost interest anyway.

Well, I think it is crap. What's so great about these episodes? I sure as hell can't find anything great about them. The Turtles are barely doing anything, and there is like no progression with character. As for my cousins, it could have been a stint over the summer, but now that regular programming shows have resumed, it's possible that TMNT has paled in comparison to some of the shows they are interested in. They like to watch The Walking Dead, Sleepy Hallow and the new Gotham that's come out, along with Disney's Star Wars. The youngest one still has picks up of Mikey in her room, but I don't know what her thoughts are on the new show. Her mom just says she's more interested in playing in her room than watching the show now when it comes on Friday nights, or she begs her mom to put on The Walking Dead instead.

[Gunpowder]

:lol:

Ha...oh my. This episode. The best of season 3 thus far, no doubt - and I'd even go as far as to say it's one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. It was all over the place - I loved that. It followed the pattern of "Fungus Humungous" from Season 2, but was executed MUCH better. And Raph's dream...seeing the Turtles on air guitars while he gets wrapped by snakes. That was so oddly satisfying. :tlol:

It's always the dark, twisted, trippy episodes that make me adore this show.

[Luckyday]

:lol:

Ha...oh my. This episode. The best of season 3 thus far, no doubt - and I'd even go as far as to say it's one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. It was all over the place - I loved that. It followed the pattern of "Fungus Humungous" from Season 2, but was executed MUCH better. And Raph's dream...seeing the Turtles on air guitars while he gets wrapped by snakes. That was so oddly satisfying. :tlol:

It's always the dark, twisted, trippy episodes that make me adore this show.

One of these days, we'll have a count down that titles "Biggest Acid Trip Moments of TMNT". Raph's dream would somewhere within the top five. I guaranteed it.:lol:

[Enscripture]

What was the "Shut up, Dave!" referencing?

[Garfield]

couldn't really get into this episode. Whether scary, weird or funny, other TMNT episode had done it better. just overall an empty experience.

[Gunpowder]

One of these days, we'll have a count down that titles "Biggest Acid Trip Moments of TMNT". Raph's dream would somewhere within the top five. I guaranteed it.:lol:

That would just be great. And if that moment isn't number one, I'd absolutely love to see what tops it. :tlol:

What was the "Shut up, Dave!" referencing?

I don't think it was a reference to anything; pretty sure it was original to this show, but of course I could be wrong.

couldn't really get into this episode. Whether scary, weird or funny, other TMNT episode had done it better. just overall an empty experience.

I highly, HIGHLY disagree...but to each his own. :twink:

[Vicky82]

I wonder if Raphs dream is foreshadowing the dark Raph story that he could be tortured, emotionally, spirtually and mentally (obviously not physically that be too dark) to become dark Raph.

It might have references to the movie A Clockwork Orange.

[JTH]

Since they revealed that April can use her powers to try and enter other's minds.

There may be a chance that she does the same in the Demon Donnie episode to try to snap him out of his demonic state and bring him back to sanity.

[The Sports Warrior]

I've been getting frustrated with the episodes of season 3. Generally speaking, they're pretty much all movie rip offs, mostly horror, adding little to the ongoing story, however with this episode I really got into it and started to just enjoy the concept, that for now the TMNT have taken a break from their usual lives and are alone in the middle of nowhere. What better place to live out every horror movie ever made. I'm totally on board now!

On an unrelated note, my wife's uncle is called Dave Beaver, so I couldn't wait to tell her!

[MaximeLoonatic]

I loved the Dream Beavers!!
I thing they should be back in a future

[Shark_Blade]

This episode skyrocketed to become one of my fave episodes ever.

Love the horrific nightmare world. Absolutely twisted and insane. :tlove:

Wow that episode was pretty bad. I sometimes like one offs but that one was just too ridiculous, not to mention like really scary. They put such effort into awesome animation and visual effects, but not to plot or character.

please tell me the monster car ep is the LAST horror movie homage ep. I'm getting tired of watching TMNT Goosebumps.

I'm not. I love every single horror elements in this show.

[zipper]

This episode skyrocketed to become one of my fave episodes ever.

Love the horrific nightmare world. Absolutely twisted and insane. :tlove:





I'm not. I love every single horror elements in this show.

You're too wimpy/scared/tired? Go watch mlp or something.

It's not a matter of being too wimpy/scared/tired. It's about taste. If you love horror elements, good for you. This season is perfect for you. But some people like other genres, and TMNT can fit them too, like drama, comedy, action, or any combination of genres.

I just dislike when some horror fans make fun of people who don't like horror by calling them names. It's not called for.

[snake]

What was the "Shut up, Dave!" referencing?

Pretty sure nothing.

[Coola Yagami]

So um... No turtles this Sunday morning or what? Guess I missed this episode. They really need to stay consistent. Not everyone has the time to keep up with whatever time they decide to air this show.

[Mellie]

This episode skyrocketed to become one of my fave episodes ever.


Mine too. It was just so much fun.

[Metalwolf]

Anyway, did anyone notice the "Got Milk" poster in the store? It had Bradford on it, though and it said, "Got Curd?" :lol:
I didn't notice that, I'm surprised he was famous enough to be doing all of those posters and things. One or two pages back in the thread somebody posted shots of the magazines and one of them in an upper row mentioned Chris Bradford, but it was a bit too blurry to make out what it's saying. I can't help but be curious as to what it's saying, as it appears to be quoting him and might give a slight clue (however tiny) as to what is going on in the city. If he mentions anything about aliens, then we know that the EDF people haven't been censuring the press about the invasion.

I don't need serious, but I would like something that's just not stupid. I loved the eps like Monkey Brains, It Came From the Depths, Cockroach Terminator and Fungus Humungous. The new eps are just too OTT, ridiculous, and down right dumb. There is no witty humor, or truly hysterical moments like before. I have a feeling it's all due to the fact that this new guy, Brandon Auman, who wrote a few of the dumber episodes, and did some editing of the better ones in the past is all of a sudden head writer and head producer, and the guy probably doesn't know what the hell he is doing. The producers/Nick is probably spending all of their production costs on big name voice actors which nobody but a small group of people in the world really give a fu^&*ck about, but in the end, short changing the writers. You could have the biggest name celebrities you could think of in a movie/tv show, but if the writing sucks, not all of the oscar caliber acting in the world is going to save it. I think they should hire some really good writers to come back and draft some better thought out plots. Right now, the show is slowly losing my interest. Only reason why I hang on, it's because I'm a TMNT fan. But, what are the regular "casuals" going to think when they tune in? I bet they will be flipping through the stations, see TMNT, and wonder how come they are fighting a weird big foot, instead of using ninja moves against a serious opponent.
I guess the only episode I liked out of the ones you mentioned was Cockroach Terminator, the others weren't as interesting to me. I think it might have been because they were literally a bunch of mutants of the week, and that got old after a while. I can't help but like Season 3 because half of the creatures they come across aren't mutants, either being demonic entities or a borderline mythical creatures (Bigfoot.) It makes it feel like there is a diverse cast of enemies, something I know people were complaining about a bunch because it seemed that every new enemy that popped up was yet another mutant.

Once they get back to New York, there will be more MOTWs. Shredder and co won't have much development outside of briefly interacting with the Turtles, and we probably won't see a resolution to Karai's mutation until the season 3 finale. I don't begrudge the Hampton stuff, because it's honest about what it really is, and that is what makes it so fun for me.

[Gunpowder]

So um... No turtles this Sunday morning or what? Guess I missed this episode. They really need to stay consistent. Not everyone has the time to keep up with whatever time they decide to air this show.

It's been that way for the past few months - every episode of season 3 (and the last few episodes of season 2) have aired on a Friday. I think you just haven't been watching til now. :tconfuse:

[Coola Yagami]

It's been that way for the past few months - every episode of season 3 (and the last few episodes of season 2) have aired on a Friday. I think you just haven't been watching til now. :tconfuse:

Yeah but they would rerun the episode 11 am every Sunday. I've been watching every new episode this way. This was the first week that for whatever reason, didn't air TMNT or any cartoon this morning. Just some teen live-action show.

[Gunpowder]

Yeah but they would rerun the episode 11 am every Sunday. I've been watching every new episode this way. This was the first week that for whatever reason, didn't air TMNT or any cartoon this morning. Just some teen live-action show.

I didn't even realize they were still airing Sunday mornings, otherwise I would've watched. :tgrumble: Yeah, then I guess they'll only be on Friday nights from here on out (unless this week was a one-time exception or something).

[IndigoErth]

One of these days, we'll have a count down that titles "Biggest Acid Trip Moments of TMNT". Raph's dream would somewhere within the top five. I guaranteed it.:lol:
And then it needs to be a DVD/Blu-ray set. :D Well, maybe with a label parents would buy. lol

What was the "Shut up, Dave!" referencing?
I feel like it should be for something, but I think it's just the group-shouted "Shut up, Mikey!" from the movie that's making me think so. (Or maybe that's what was intended.)

[blindturtle02]

And then it needs to be a DVD/Blu-ray set. :D Well, maybe with a label parents would buy. lol


I feel like it should be for something, but I think it's just the group-shouted "Shut up, Mikey!" from the movie that's making me think so. (Or maybe that's what was intended.)
Dave has to be my favorite Beaver. Most chilling line in TMNT horror homage history. "Uh, hi! I'm uh Dave Beaver! I'm usposed tah scare ya." I just loved Mikey's reaction to him when he showed up in reality. "Hi Dave!" Sans the whole life draining bit, Dave seems like a good enough sort. lol

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, he's definitely a deceiving one for sure.

[THGhost]

I simply cannot stress this enough: This is my favourite episode of season 3 so far. :D


As a huge horror fan, I have a huge appreciation for this episode. I got every single reference and I love when that happens. I'm also a fan of metal, so I of course really liked Raph's dream a lot. :P
Donnie got another kiss from April! :) Oh wait, nobody around here cares. :P
Reading all the crazy stuff in the general store was a hoot. :)
"Shut up, Dave!"
My favourite part was the comic book style sequence. I'd love to see an entire episode animated that way.


The part with the guy using the chainsaw against Casey was more creepy than the writers intended, especially because it was real and Casey could have been chopped up. Did that remind anyone else of Resident Evil 4?.

Nope, it reminded me of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Which is what was intended.

Why would it remind anyone of that?

The voice of the general store owner was Bill Moseley and the chainsaw had The Saw Is Family on the blade.

A reference to Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.

Isn't "The Saw Is Family" a reference to the 3rd movie as well? I watched it recently and it said that on the gold chainsaw too.

Their* arms & legs were not amputated, they were in the shells... :trolleye:

They did look creepy though.

Better than I was expecting, but nothing spectacular. Frankly, I think I'm growing tired of all of the spooky psychedelics. Too much of a good thing often isn't good. I hate to say it, but even though I have enjoyed season 3's episodes very much, I am also super disappointed with them. Northampton arcs have always been synonymous with themes like isolation & introspection. It used to be about the turtles finding themselves & having down-time, leaning new things about one another & the world, getting in touch with nature, etc. Instead it's just been weekly wonky wacky weirdo monster/mutant madness.

The episodes are fine, the only problem is they're too many similar episodes close together.

The "horror episodes" from Seasons 1 and 2 were spread apart, like the Squrielnoids episode wasn't right next to Parasita, etc.

Don't bite my head off for this because I do actually agree with you, but Black Nerd Comedy suggested a rather good theory as to why we're getting so many horror themed episodes these past few weeks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0NO8zNJyE&t=5m45s

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metalturtles_zpspzqxwval.gifhttp://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag457/melliamo/metaldonnie_zpszltxdhux.gif

I like how they chose the exact instruments that I'd have chosen for each turtle. Mikey on drums, Leo on guitar and Donnie on bass. If Raph were also in the band I'd have put him on guitar and Leo on vocals though.

What was the "Shut up, Dave!" referencing?

Absolutely nothing.

[matteso586]

Am I the only one that noticed Bill Cipher in this episode?

[THGhost]

Am I the only one that noticed Bill Cipher in this episode?

This guy?

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/195/c/8/bill_cipher_by_scribblespoon-d6dh1gp.png

I have absolutely no idea who he is. :P

[IndigoErth]

If Raph were also in the band I'd have put him on guitar and Leo on vocals though.
Please tell me Seth Green can sing. His tone of voice just doesn't sound like it would lend itself too well in that department and my ears just spontaneously started bleeding at the thought. :P

[THGhost]

I'm also pretty sure that "The Saw Is Family" was used in TC3 as well, not just 2.

Please tell me Seth Green can sing. His tone of voice just doesn't sound like it would lend itself too well in that department and my ears just spontaneously started bleeding at the thought. :P

I did wonder about that actually. Maybe not the Nick turtles then. :lol:

[snake]

Am I the only one that noticed Bill Cipher in this episode?

This guy?

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/195/c/8/bill_cipher_by_scribblespoon-d6dh1gp.png

I have absolutely no idea who he is. :P

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you guys should be more familiar with good ol' bill.

[Warhorse]

It's not a matter of being too wimpy/scared/tired. It's about taste. If you love horror elements, good for you. This season is perfect for you. But some people like other genres, and TMNT can fit them too, like drama, comedy, action, or any combination of genres.

I just dislike when some horror fans make fun of people who don't like horror by calling them names. It's not called for.

This. I would prefer an adventure like episodes. Maybe something like The Goonies, Neverending Story, Flight of the Navigator, Pirates of the Caribbean, Raiders of the Lost Arc, Without a Paddle (considering whose voicing Leo now, this could be a really cute episode) The Mummy, Adventures in Babysitting, Homeward Bound, Jurassic Park, etc......

I didn't notice that, I'm surprised he was famous enough to be doing all of those posters and things. One or two pages back in the thread somebody posted shots of the magazines and one of them in an upper row mentioned Chris Bradford, but it was a bit too blurry to make out what it's saying. I can't help but be curious as to what it's saying, as it appears to be quoting him and might give a slight clue (however tiny) as to what is going on in the city. If he mentions anything about aliens, then we know that the EDF people haven't been censuring the press about the invasion.

I guess the only episode I liked out of the ones you mentioned was Cockroach Terminator, the others weren't as interesting to me. I think it might have been because they were literally a bunch of mutants of the week, and that got old after a while. I can't help but like Season 3 because half of the creatures they come across aren't mutants, either being demonic entities or a borderline mythical creatures (Bigfoot.) It makes it feel like there is a diverse cast of enemies, something I know people were complaining about a bunch because it seemed that every new enemy that popped up was yet another mutant.

Once they get back to New York, there will be more MOTWs. Shredder and co won't have much development outside of briefly interacting with the Turtles, and we probably won't see a resolution to Karai's mutation until the season 3 finale. I don't begrudge the Hampton stuff, because it's honest about what it really is, and that is what makes it so fun for me.

Those were hardly mutant of the week episodes, and actually had recurring themes in them (especially it came From the Depths, how can anyone not like that episode is beyond me, it has one of the best TMNT characters of all time in it) and likewise for Monkey Brains. And mutants of the week vs monster of the week, whats the difference? At least the previous seasons had well written episodes for the most part, and maybe they set the bar too high for me, so as of right now, I'm just disappointed in season 3 thus far. But, I was disappointed for a bit with season 2 beginning until Slash and Destroy came along, but also, that episode was written by a guest writer and not a regular. Most of the better episodes of season 2 were written by the guest writers.

[IndigoErth]

<<<<<<<<<

you guys should be more familiar with good ol' bill.
I always wondered what the heck your avatar was. (Flying pyramid cheese monster?) Guess now I know. lol

[Luckyday]

I always wondered what the heck your avatar was. (Flying pyramid cheese monster?) Guess now I know. lol

Cartoon television has seriously improve since 2010. I know that's hard to believe but it's true.

[snake]

I always wondered what the heck your avatar was. (Flying pyramid cheese monster?) Guess now I know. lol

Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. Check that show out, it's amazing.

[Klunk1234]

The episode was weird and creepy , but it has its moments like the boys on a band (in Raph's dream) and the store owner explaining to Casey what those dream beavers were. Finally, when Casey broke the enchantment on that book the beavers were free and the boys were able to wake up. Later the beavers disappeared. Finally, the store owner was able to sleep after many years. April kissed Donnie again.

[Donny's computer84]

This episode was a bit creepy, especially the chain saw scene. It did have good humor in it.

[ranger_scout]

The episode was very strange. There's probably a chance that kids had nightmares because of the dream beavers or they might have been afraid to go to sleep. When Raphael was tied up in a chair by snakes and the beaver wanted his soul I automatically began thinking to myself, "Hmm, where have I seen this?"

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[Warhorse]

The episode was very strange. There's probably a chance that kids had nightmares because of the dream beavers or they might have been afraid to go to sleep. When Raphael was tied up in a chair by snakes and the beaver wanted his soul I automatically began thinking to myself, "Hmm, where have I seen this?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZAY-78zhmw

Sh!t. That's not the end of the scene stealings either. The dude singing has a gap in his tooth, just like Donnie, and he's even talking to his mother who is a shrunken head, just like the Finger did in A Foot Too Big.

[matteso586]

Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. Check that show out, it's amazing.

Bill is also on the book cover and flashback in this episode.

[Powder]

It was not a Gravity Falls character... :trolleye: The pyramid with an eye on top has been symbolic imagery in pop culture & government alike for longer than anyone on these boards has been alive.

[LeoRaph]

So with the Beavers...

Dire and Dread are: Robert Englund
Dark and Dave are: John Kassir

The A team get Freddy and the B team get the Crypt Keeper.

So why then did Donatello have the Most Freddy Kruger like dream and the Most Freddy Kruger Like Beaver with Dark if Robert Englund didn't even voice him? That can't be right...can it? Robert Englund has to be Dark as well as Dire :tconfuse:

[BubblyShell22]

I honestly thought Dave was voiced by John DiMaggio as it kind of sound liked him.

[evan2000]

I simply cannot stress this enough: This is my favourite episode of season 3 so far. :D

Absolutely agree with this! I love it! :tgrin:

I like how they chose the exact instruments that I'd have chosen for each turtle. Mikey on drums, Leo on guitar and Donnie on bass. If Raph were also in the band I'd have put him on guitar and Leo on vocals though.

I imagine Donnie would play an instrument that requires more technical knowledge to operate effectively, like an Electone or arranger keyboard. He also hinted his liking of piano pieces when he first switched on music in the Shellraiser in The Pulverizer.

Meanwhile, Raph had a drum set in his room as seen in Slash and Destroy and Mikey kinda implied he could play a trombone in Karai's Vendetta:

http://i.imgur.com/fEq9SJF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fCckDnc.jpg

By the way, in Raph's dream his brothers were pretty much using their own weapons to "play" music. Leo and Donnie weren't even holding actual guitars, they were just holding their katana/bo staff; while Mikey had an actual drum set but using his nun-chucks as the drum sticks. I wonder what instrument could be played using Raph's sai? Right now I'm only thinking of using it as a mic :tlol:

[THGhost]

I imagine Donnie would play an instrument that requires more technical knowledge to operate effectively, like an Electone or arranger keyboard. He also hinted his liking of piano pieces when he first switched on music in the Shellraiser in The Pulverizer.

Meanwhile, Raph had a drum set in his room as seen in Slash and Destroy and Mikey kinda implied he could play a trombone in Karai's Vendetta:

http://i.imgur.com/fEq9SJF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fCckDnc.jpg

By the way, in Raph's dream his brothers were pretty much using their own weapons to "play" music. Leo and Donnie weren't even holding actual guitars, they were just holding their katana/bo staff; while Mikey had an actual drum set but using his nun-chucks as the drum sticks. I wonder what instrument could be played using Raph's sai? Right now I'm only thinking of using it as a mic :tlol:

I see the guitar as the main instrument in a band, it always holds centre/front stage - making it perfect for Leo, the leader. Most drummers are frickin' nuts when they drum - perfect for Mikey. Leaving bass for Donnie, I don't know why but I think it really suits him. Bass guitars are usually tall like he is. :P

[Anton Chigurh]

Sorry if this was already posted, didn't feel like reading 7 pages to find if this was posted.

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Anybody wish they would have went with the original "terror bears"

[zaktheneutrino]

I thought the overall episode was fun and interesting. I assume we will not be seeing the Dream Beavers again since they are no longer Dream Beavers but Reality Beavers? haha:lol: Unless of course they grow a bit taller. I really enjoyed the comic book scenes too. Anything relating to Mirage, I love! That's probably why I liked the Terror Bears concept. Perhaps the darker themed episodes are showing early in season 3 because it is a darker time in the TMNT's lives with everything that happened in the season 2 finale? I, for one, like the darker episodes a lot.

On another note, I can't wait to own the Dream Beaver figures and hope we eventually have all four!! :D

[THGhost]

Please tell me Seth Green can sing. His tone of voice just doesn't sound like it would lend itself too well in that department and my ears just spontaneously started bleeding at the thought. :P

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Does this answer your question?

[evan2000]

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Does this answer your question?
I tried to close my eyes and picture Leo singing with that voice in my head.

Nah, that's not Leo at all :tlol:

[Shiro Kame]

I laughed at the fact that Mikey was the only one not terrorized like the others, because that Dream Beaver was idiot! I also appreciate the irony on the sheer fact that the beavers were only working their was to their depoweration. Poor old guy though. LOL

[BubblyShell22]

Dave wasn't an idiot. He was more subtle in his terror in that he appeared to be all cute and cuddly but was just as deranged as the others. Watch out for the cute ones!

[victory_angel]

I'm surprised none of the Turtles were suprised or concerned that Donnie was not able to be woken up by Mikey. I mean I'd wager Mikey would not have been all that quiet in his attemps to wake up Donatello. And Donnie I could see being a light sleeper due to his intelect.

[THGhost]

Dave wasn't an idiot. He was more subtle in his terror in that he appeared to be all cute and cuddly but was just as deranged as the others. Watch out for the cute ones!

Yep, if anything he was the most scary. If you look at him the right way.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, with the other three you'd already know it's evil incarnate, Dave however... that's a pretty twisted one right there. That's up there with things like Pennywise - sure, clowns (and cute stuff like Dave) are supposed to be fun and friendly, or they may went to lure you in and kill you.

[CyberCubed]

What the hell does olley olley oxen free mean? Some sort of horror homage?

[victory_angel]

What the hell does olley olley oxen free mean? Some sort of horror homage?

olley olley oxen free is a catch phrase used in games such Hide and seek to let all the players who are still hiding to come out into the open.

[CyberCubed]

olley olley oxen free is a catch phrase used in games such Hide and seek to let all the players who are still hiding to come out into the open.

I've never heard that before. Did this happen back in the 80's?

[IndigoErth]

I've never heard that before. Did this happen back in the 80's?
Yes, probably longer ago. Knew it as a kid, probably got it from my parents or... I haven't a clue where. (Edit: Can't find any firm origin online though guessing it's fairly old and prob been through variations of it over time)

[ToTheNines]

What the hell does olley olley oxen free mean? Some sort of horror homage?

You were so sheltered.

Also, Google is still a thing.

[ssjup81]

I've never heard that before. Did this happen back in the 80's?.....................

Are you even from this planet? That's an old saying. Used to say it during Hide & Seek. Heard it in old golden era cartoons too.

[THGhost]

What the hell does olley olley oxen free mean? Some sort of horror homage?

I've never heard that before. Did this happen back in the 80's?

I'm pretty sure it's been around for several decades before that. I've heard it used in cartoons from the 40s.

[Anton Chigurh]

.....................

Are you even from this planet? That's an old saying. Used to say it during Hide & Seek. Heard it in old golden era cartoons too.

Freddy said it as well as chucky, but yea that sayings been around forever

[CyberCubed]

When i played hide and seek in the late 80's or early 90's the kids never said, "olley olley oxen free."

I also don't remember any cartoons where that was said in, I remember hearing it in some sort of horror films I saw which is what I assumed it was from.

[victory_angel]

The names of the beavers remind me of the Sandman Comics. I haven't read the comics themselves but apparently there is a group of people called "The Endless" The Endless are a family of seven anthropomorphic personifications of universal concepts, around which the comic series revolve.

And the names of "The Endless" are:

Destiny
Death
Dream
Destruction
Desire
Despair
Delirium (formerly Delight)

[Jester]

When i played hide and seek in the late 80's or early 90's the kids never said, "olley olley oxen free."

I also don't remember any cartoons where that was said in, I remember hearing it in some sort of horror films I saw which is what I assumed it was from.
Then you don't remember the FW TMNT series....because I'm sure it's in there somewhere. I can't remember if it was Rocksteady or Mikey, but I swear I remember an "Olly Olly Oxygen Free!" in there...somewhere.

[Powder]

Leonardo Cuts Loose, did the turtle in blue say it in that one?

[Gunpowder]

When i played hide and seek in the late 80's or early 90's the kids never said, "olley olley oxen free."

I also don't remember any cartoons where that was said in, I remember hearing it in some sort of horror films I saw which is what I assumed it was from.

I'm with you. I'd never heard that before this episode, either. I was even watching it with some friends, and when I said I'd never heard that before, they looked at me like, "Dude, seriously? :lol:"

[LeoRaph]

Maybe this might help with the 'Olly Olly Oxen Free':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olly_olly_oxen_free (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olly_olly_oxen_free)

I'm sure there are better sources than wikipedia out there but it's something to start from at least.

This was also interesting from the wikipedia page: It is thought[by whom?] to derive from the phrase "All ye, all ye 'outs' in free,","All the outs in free" or possibly "Calling all the 'outs' in free;" in other words: all who are "out" may come in without penalty.[3] Various calls used for such purposes have gone by the collective name of "ollyoxalls" in some places.[4]

Which would make sense as to why Freddy or Chucky would be saying it effectively baiting their victims by lulling them into a false sense of security. Not that their victims would trust them...

[Noxonius]

Is it me or have we been getting a lot dark episodes lately?

Heck, I dare even say the Nick series is becoming progressively darker than the 2003 series. It's kinda disturbing to watch this show nowadays...

Generally I dislike the Nick series because it seems like a rushed product. Every episode has notable flaws and plot holes, like in the ''In Dreams'', the physicist purposely went far away and PUT UP A CONVENIENT STORE so that whoever accidentally happened to stumble across the same area would surely find him, and he conveniently keeps this so secretive and important device of his on a table where anyone can take a peek when he's not looking. I mean gee, what a dumbass.

[victory_angel]

I don't know if any one noticed this, but you have

April
Burnie
Casey
Donnie

And conveniantly you get A B C D

I know Burney is a one off character that we may see again after all he has been named and he knows of the Turtles. Not that he could tell anyone to begin with because no one would believe him.

[AT-Man]

Loved the beavers and that Jim Siedow look-a-like shop owner. I'm glad they've gotten all these appropriate actors to play those small roles.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Is it me or have we been getting a lot dark episodes lately?

Heck, I dare even say the Nick series is becoming progressively darker than the 2003 series. It's kinda disturbing to watch this show nowadays...

It is getting darker but "progressively" is probably not the term I'm thinking of. While the 2003 series was dark, I never felt that it tried too hard to be like that and was just naturally dark. The newer episodes I feel are just trying to be darker and creepier for the sake of it. When I said that I'd like to see the show get darker, this isn't what I had in mind. I believe that these episodes were meant for October but ended up continuing in November.

This episode was the first episode of season three that I didn't like. The story and presentation just wasn't interesting. I'm not enthusiastic on them getting big name actors to voice for characters that reference a movie they were featured in to make the episode better. That is reaching recent Simpsons episode territory. I really couldn't stand the Leo and Mikey dream sequences. I get that this version of Leo is a lot more loose and has a child like innocence but it still seems out of character for him to just run around with the power of speed not even bothering to wonder how and why he got this ability. Leo is smarter than that. And Mikey's dream,.....:-? To the staff that work on the show, this is seriously adding salt to the wounds when it comes to Michelangelo's intelligence. A video game world would have been more suitable, maybe a spoof of Five Nights at Freddy's. They still don't understand that we'd like to see him treated better than this. It's like on one hand, they listen to fans when it comes to fan service but on the other hand, they ignore others who want better character development.

I did like Raph's dream and was amused at his brothers rocking out in the background. This episode however, was just bleh! But I'm sure the next episode will interest me more.

[Noxonius]

I'm just waiting for them to get back to New York to take on Shredder and his cronies again, and the Kraang of course. I haven't enjoyed the farm house eps too much. They've been mostly a filler for me.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I enjoyed the first four episodes but this one was just meh.

[Noxonius]

Also like I said before, I really hate the plot holes. Literally in every episode I can't help but notice how some things just don't make sense at all, and I just facepalm inside my head every time. Don't get me wrong, I really like the new series but I really wish I could like them more.

[BubblyShell22]

Olley Olley Oxen Free was something we used to say as kids when playing Hide and Seek all of the time, so I recognized it immediately.

[IndigoErth]

Every episode has notable flaws and plot holes, like in the ''In Dreams'', the physicist purposely went far away and PUT UP A CONVENIENT STORE so that whoever accidentally happened to stumble across the same area would surely find him, and he conveniently keeps this so secretive and important device of his on a table where anyone can take a peek when he's not looking. I mean gee, what a dumbass.
The man also claims to have not slept in 40(?) years, whether sleep deprivation or insanity...he isn't at all right in the head. lol

[blindturtle02]

The man also claims to have not slept in 40(?) years, whether sleep deprivation or insanity...he isn't at all right in the head. lol

Whenever things are back to normal in NYC, Bernie needs to chill at Mr. Murakami's for a while. He could really go to town on the local hoods with that chainsaw.

[victory_angel]

The man also claims to have not slept in 40(?) years, whether sleep deprivation or insanity...he isn't at all right in the head. lol

Realisticly the guy would be dead.

You can learn more facts about what sleep deprivation can cause here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbJxLITdt_E

[IndigoErth]

Realisticly the guy would be dead.

You can learn more facts about what sleep deprivation can cause here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbJxLITdt_E
Yes, I realize that, and thought it when the show mentioned how long. lol I think the standing record is what... about a week and a half? I don't think I could get past two or three days.

Honestly, trying to [almost] never sleep would be a miserable existence... just let the beavers eat you and be done with it.

[Ninjinister]

I don't know if any one noticed this, but you have

April
Burney
Casey
Donnie

And conveniantly you get A B C D

I know Burney is a one off character that we may see again after all he has been named and he knows of the Turtles. Not that he could tell anyone to begin with because no one would believe him.

..."Burney"...

[victory_angel]

..."Burney"...

Yeah I did consider he could be the Burne Thompson of this universe.

So what did everyone think of the new added lay out to the Farm House with Donnie's guest room? Unless the bed rooms are just boxes with a bed in it like Donnie's room. I don't see more then four rooms at max.

Plausible lay out for me at first was April had her own room, Casey had his own room. Raph and Mikey share a room, Leo and Donnie share another room. Or Leo and Raph one Room with Donnie and Mikey in the other.

Now I'm starting to think it's April has her own room, Casey bunks with Raph and Mikey, Leo has his own room and Donnie has his own room.

[Ninjinister]

Yeah I did consider he could be the Burne Thompson of this universe.\

My point is that his name is Bernie.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah I did consider he could be the Burne Thompson of this universe.

http://replygif.net/i/1032.gif

[IndigoErth]

Now I'm starting to think it's April has her own room, Casey bunks with Raph and Mikey, Leo has his own room and Donnie has his own room.
Yeah, maybe something like that. I could see April being in her old room, Casey, Raph, and Mikey taking her parent's old room which is probably larger and more suitable for three. And, if rooms are too few, maybe Leo and Donnie share since they may be less likely to drive each other entirely nuts and respect each other's space. (Edit: And Donnie seems to be a bit of a night owl who sometimes may be off in the barn working on some project half the time anyhow.) Though it's possible that someone might bunk up in the living room, or do so intermittently, when they want more space.

Or Leo and Raph one Room with Donnie and Mikey in the other.
Now that's just asking for trouble. lol

[lindz247]

Oh my god!!!!!! that episode was totally f****d up :o

and I enjoyed it but now i'm too scared to go to bed.

Hahaha same xD
I picked Shut Up Dave one my favorite parts :D

[victory_angel]

My point is that his name is Bernie.

Oh...:ohwell: thanks for pointing out the mispelling.

Yeah, maybe something like that. I could see April being in her old room, Casey, Raph, and Mikey taking her parent's old room which is probably larger and more suitable for three. And, if rooms are too few, maybe Leo and Donnie share since they may be less likely to drive each other entirely nuts and respect each other's space. (Edit: And Donnie seems to be a bit of a night owl who sometimes may be off in the barn working on some project half the time anyhow.) Though it's possible that someone might bunk up in the living room, or do so intermittently, when they want more space.

Or one of the guest rooms has bunk beds. Which is where Mikey would sleep at least, Donnie and Raph would sort of sleep in there since the Turtles are probably going to want to stay within close proximity of each other for emotional stability. So Donnie would share it with Mikey since Raph is keeping vigil over Leo, and then the times where Donnie takes over so Raph could rest.

I can also imagine that Donnie was the one who was innitially looking after Leo. After all in the 1990 movie Raph ran off and got hurt after getting into an arguement with Leonardo. And Leo watches over Raph as he heals because he feels responcible for what happened. In the Invasion Donnie had gotten into a dispute with Leo over how to fight the Kraang, so he feels responcible for what happened to Leo because he had argued with him. So it would be plausible that Donnie could have spent a number of nights barely eating and hardly sleeping and such until Raph feels enough is enough and takes over the Leo watch. Or maybe that's why Raph vounteered to keep watch because while he hadn't been privy to the argument itself, he did hear Donnie beating himself up when they were leaving the city. And if Donnie was watching over Leo they were more likely to end up with two sick turtles not just one.

[BubblyShell22]

I don't think Leo and Raph sharing a room is asking for trouble, especially with how caring Raph has been concerning Leo. Maybe Donnie wanted to bunk with Leo once he woke up, but Raph insisted on bunking with him instead, so Don got his own room and maybe Mikey and Casey share while April has her own. I can't see Don and Casey having to share a room because that IS asking for trouble.

[victory_angel]

I don't think Leo and Raph sharing a room is asking for trouble, especially with how caring Raph has been concerning Leo. Maybe Donnie wanted to bunk with Leo once he woke up, but Raph insisted on bunking with him instead, so Don got his own room and maybe Mikey and Casey share while April has her own. I can't see Don and Casey having to share a room because that IS asking for trouble.

Plus Mikey did say he couldn't wake up Donnie up so he put some dirty underwear on Donnie's face. The moment he said that I knew that had to be Casey's underwear, because he's more likely to have Casey's undergarments in easy access.

[IndigoErth]

I can't see Don and Casey having to share a room because that IS asking for trouble.
Well that's most surely true. If those two ever shared a bunk bed I could too easily see one of them on the bottom using their feet to tip the mattress and dump the other out of bed. :lol:

As for Leo and Raph, well... while Raph has been very good with Leo for the time they've been out of NYC, sooner or later they're probably bound to go back to their old headbutting ways, so I question how long two opposing forces could stand to share a room like that. Maybe they'll be good until they're back home, but who knows.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, but throughout the show, I've always seen it as a friendly rivalry and not really a heated one. Every time Raph has butted heads with Leo, he's always apologized for his behavior, so I can't see them not wanting to share a room with each other for the time being.

[victory_angel]

Also there are some unaddressed issues between Donnie and Leo. I was hoping they'd have a heart to heart discussion about the arguement. But that has either during an of screen moment, or it hasn't been addressed as of yet.

I mean yeah there are some signs of unresolved tention still.

As for Donnie and Casey, it is clear in this recent episode that Casey has noticed or is catching on that April has chosen Donnie. Which could be noted with the way Casey is kicking Donnie after he drags him downstairs. Because he tells April he kinda always wanted to do that.

And at the end if you look at the still when Donnie and Casey are taking a sleeping Burnie back to the van. Casey's face looks disappointed, but he has a small smirk as if saying that if he had to lose April to someone then he's glad it's Donnie. He certainly knows Donnie well enough to know he's a good person who truely does care about her.
Perhaps thats what leads into the bonding moment in the upcoming episode. Casey just wants to see what April sees in Donnie.

[snake]

Well that's most surely true. If those two ever shared a bunk bed I could too easily see one of them on the bottom using their feet to tip the mattress and dump the other out of bed. :lol:

As for Leo and Raph, well... while Raph has been very good with Leo for the time they've been out of NYC, sooner or later they're probably bound to go back to their old headbutting ways, so I question how long two opposing forces could stand to share a room like that. Maybe they'll be good until they're back home, but who knows.

Hopefully Raph stays the way he is now. It's great to see him a bit calmer.

[ssjup81]

I still really like this episode. I've watched it a load of times now. lol

I never thought of how the characters probably were set up sleeping and room wise. The combinations mentioned all make sense, but can't help but wonder if one of them just may have the couch. If either of them had the couch, I could see it being either Mikey or Casey for some reason.

Oh and I do have to agree, I think April does like Donnie over Casey. He's a good human friend to her and maybe that's all she sees in him. Who knows, but if they do the whole Donnie x April thing...it'll be kind of interesting to see how that would even work unless the world becomes open to giant talking turtles and finally be able to walk around freely in broad daylight.

[Basti50]

Liked the episode. It had some interesting imagery in there and I generally like those episodes where the sidekicks are more in focus (other than just being a last minute deus ex machina).

I think I spotted an inconsistency though: when Casey throws the book in the air and then when he hits it with the baseball bat it is suddenly lying on the ground.

[Luckyday]

I still really like this episode. I've watched it a load of times now. lol

I never thought of how the characters probably were set up sleeping and room wise. The combinations mentioned all make sense, but can't help but wonder if one of them just may have the couch. If either of them had the couch, I could see it being either Mikey or Casey for some reason.

Oh and I do have to agree, I think April does like Donnie over Casey. He's a good human friend to her and maybe that's all she sees in him. Who knows, but if they do the whole Donnie x April thing...it'll be kind of interesting to see how that would even work unless the world becomes open to giant talking turtles and finally be able to walk around freely in broad daylight.

I have a feeling that if happens that it won't get delve on to deeply. The writers are the type of people that are only interested in the chase but not so much on development of the relationship when the chase is over and won. I can see the Apritello being push to the background and starting focusing on a new love interest with either one of the other turtles.

[THGhost]

Burnie?

Anyone else reminded of this guy?

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071113030039/pixar/images/2/29/BernieKropp.jpg

[Davetello]

Enjoyed the episode, it was a nice little reveal into what some of the turtles' biggest fears are. In that respect it was a little like one of my fave episodes from 2k3, "The Darkness Within".

The beavers awere actually legitimately frightening, and the voice work was stellar as you would expect. It isn't one of my favourite episodes of the season so far, but I did enjoy it. I do agree with others though when they say that Northampton should be about reflection and lots of character development, rather than one off horror parodies.

Oh, and obviously I had to vote for "shut up Dave". Had it said to me more than once in the past, so I feel Dave Beaver's pain :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

I bet you got a kick out of the fact that one of the beavers shared your name, Dave. And I love how you have him as your avatar now.

[Davetello]

I bet you got a kick out of the fact that one of the beavers shared your name, Dave. And I love how you have him as your avatar now.

Hahaha it did make me laugh, Shell. I was happy about it. And when they all screamed "Shut up Dave!" I was laughing even more.

I planned to make him my avatar anyway, but Gunpowder recommend it as well so I decided to do it straight away. I quite like it :)

The funny thing is that most people call me David or Davie (as I have said before). But when I joined I thought that 'Davetello' sounded better than the other options. Had I called myself Davietello or Davidtello then I couldn't have played on the Dave Beaver thing.

[BubblyShell22]

Very true, but I think if you had named yourself Davidtello, people would probably still call you Dave. But I like your name as it is, so good on you for choosing it.

[Davetello]

Very true, but I think if you had named yourself Davidtello, people would probably still call you Dave. But I like your name as it is, so good on you for choosing it.

That's true, seeing as in terms of the nicknames for David, 'Davie' seems far less common than 'Dave' in the States. So people would probably have naturally started calling me Dave, as you say. Over here Davie is pretty common.

Thanks. I'm heading offline now, speak to you soon.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome. Have a good sleep. And, yeah, I tend to call people who are named David either by their full name or Dave. I never have used Davie ever.

[blindturtle02]

Awesome. Have a good sleep. And, yeah, I tend to call people who are named David either by their full name or Dave. I never have used Davie ever.

The dream beavers seem like they'd be alright to hang out with once you convince them not to mess with your life force. I enjoyed these characters quite a bit. Wasn't expecting to like this one, but I was hooked from the very first scene.

[TurtleTitan97]

The dream beavers seem like they'd be alright to hang out with once you convince them not to mess with your life force.

Now that you mention it, that would be kinda cool. :P

[snake]

Now that you mention it, that would be kinda cool. :P

I'd love to hang out with the beavers, the plush versions atleast.

[blindturtle02]

I'd love to hang out with the beavers, the plush versions atleast.

I wonder where they ended up. Guess we may never know.

[Jephael]

I can so see Playmates coming out with plushies of them.

[lindz247]

Burnie?

Anyone else reminded of this guy?

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071113030039/pixar/images/2/29/BernieKropp.jpg
Haaahahaha oh my gosh who the heck is that? :lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Haaahahaha oh my gosh who the heck is that? :lol:

He was Dash's teacher from The Incredibles.

[lindz247]

He was Dash's teacher from The Incredibles.
Hahaha
To me I think Bernie could work for Casey's dad (or grandpa) they really do look alike. Same eyes, missing teeth, black hair. Idk just a thought.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, the Beavers didn't seem that bad once they got to the real world. I'd love to get plushies of them for sure.

[Luckyday]

Yeah, the Beavers didn't seem that bad once they got to the real world. I'd love to get plushies of them for sure.

Well I'm still waiting for that ICK bean bag plushy. :trazz:

[snake]

Well I'm still waiting for that ICK bean bag plushy. :trazz:

ICK is a very marketable character that I would love to buy merch of. And none exists.

[Donatello19]

ICK is a very marketable character that I would love to buy merch of. And none exists.

I thought there was a figure coming up?

[Ninjinister]

I thought there was a figure coming up?

"Maybe" is what I've heard most recently.

[Warhorse]

.....................

Are you even from this planet? That's an old saying. Used to say it during Hide & Seek. Heard it in old golden era cartoons too.

I have never ever heard of that either.
Well that's most surely true. If those two ever shared a bunk bed I could too easily see one of them on the bottom using their feet to tip the mattress and dump the other out of bed. :lol:

As for Leo and Raph, well... while Raph has been very good with Leo for the time they've been out of NYC, sooner or later they're probably bound to go back to their old headbutting ways, so I question how long two opposing forces could stand to share a room like that. Maybe they'll be good until they're back home, but who knows.

Well, I will say this, with Splinter out of the picture for the time being, Raph has been very calm. I often wonder if it is Splinter that fuels his rage, in that, no matter what Raphael does, Splinter never seems to acknowledge what he does good, he only acknowledges his faults, while at the same time, rewarding Leo when he does something good. After a while, that has to grate on a kid's mental state eventually.