View Full Version : Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep6: "Race with the Demon"
Machias Banshee
11-21-2014, 05:50 PM
Down to the wire, it is!
Damn, I'm away for a few days and this place explodes...
Machias Banshee
11-21-2014, 07:39 PM
I don't even know what to say... poll on the way!
snake
11-21-2014, 07:41 PM
I'll say it again. Meh episode was rushed and meh.
Vicky82
11-21-2014, 07:42 PM
Wierd episode but i'm more annoyed that the stream went down for 5 mins near the end.
I loved the ending were April had her arm round Raph.
lonewarrior20
11-21-2014, 07:43 PM
i liked it.
i loved that they played the insult game and i always wondered why there was a chicken on the hot rod toy. now i know. i'll be glad to see the next episode after the hiatus is over.
Vicky82
11-21-2014, 07:44 PM
I'll say it again. Meh episode was rushed and meh.
Maybe it was meant to be rushed as it did have car chase scenes.
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 07:44 PM
Well that was a few different kinds of wrong. :teek:
But I like the car that eats people... Eating Donnie, best part. Sorry Donnie. (Edit: And April/Raph at the end, and Leo taking out Speed Demon, also best parts.)
...creepy brain chicken
Edit: What is the chance Casey/Donnie's car will end up a toy. Also, was that an old Speak & Spell I saw? lol
Mellie
11-21-2014, 07:47 PM
Well.. that was weird :lol: Not as good as the Dream Beavers, but I liked it.
Donnie and Casey bonding! I REALLY hope we can lay off the love triangle now.
I also like how April and Raph are finally starting to interact with each other.
No preview again. We're really in the dark now huh? All we know is the vision quest is coming up sometime.
Vicky82
11-21-2014, 07:48 PM
I saw it had that little orange keyboard computer (can't remember what it was called) in Casey's car and I had one of those back in the 80s:D
snake
11-21-2014, 07:48 PM
Maybe it was meant to be rushed as it did have car chase scenes.
I loved those parts, but tthey should've explained speed demon more.
CyberCubed
11-21-2014, 07:49 PM
Pretty decent episode, more surprised how much work was put into the highway and the roads. The episode picked up when Don became the speed demon toward the end.
PangolinFeets
11-21-2014, 07:49 PM
Loved it. Alphabet insult game was awesome. I loved giant evil Donnie head. Ha ha ha.
CyberCubed
11-21-2014, 07:50 PM
Rob Paulsen deserves a huge shout-out for this episode. He was using his Gray Fox voice from Metal Gear Solid as mutato-Donnie.
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 07:51 PM
I saw it had that little orange keyboard computer (can't remember what it was called) in Casey's car and I had one of those back in the 80s:D
Me too... :D
This here kids is a Speak & Spell, back when technology could only pretend to be "smart." But it was cool for an "educational" thing. ;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/TI_SpeakSpell_no_shadow.jpg
It's probably still in my attic somewhere.
Vicky82
11-21-2014, 07:51 PM
No preview again. We're really in the dark now huh? All we know is the vision quest is coming up sometime.
I'm guessing it's going to be on hiatus until January as that playmate news said Rocksteady and Bebop debute happens in January.
snake
11-21-2014, 07:52 PM
I'm guessing it's going to be on hiatus until January as that playmate news said Rocksteady and Bebop debute happens in January.
Ah man! These hiatuses get worse every season.
Syb3rStrife
11-21-2014, 07:53 PM
The Raph/April shippers are gonna have a field day with that last scene.
Looks like a lot of people got their wish for some Donnie and Casey bromance.
Liked the 'Good Enough' reference to Good Year tires and the 'Dead Man's Curve' reference to Fast and Furious.
LOVED Speed Demon!Donnie. I just wish he had a little more screen time. Really hope they put out a figure of him.
Over all nice episode. Didn't play out exactly how I thought it would but it was nice seeing Casey and Donnie team up to take on the Speed Demon.
Wonder how long before they're at each others throats again.
Vicky82
11-21-2014, 07:55 PM
I have to watch the episode again later as I missed 5 mins of it (cut out when Donnie became Speed Demon) due to the stream going down.
Me too... :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/TI_SpeakSpell_no_shadow.jpg
It's probably still in my attic somewhere.
Yeah that was it. :D
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 07:56 PM
I want the car... with the hood "mouth" that opens... with teeth.
From poll:
"...did anyone else's mind go in the gutter during the cartoon scene?"
You mean when the main character grabbed the centaur and I thought "there will be a gif of this"? Why yes, yes it did fall right in the gutter. Somehow I think it was intended. :lol:
lindz247
11-21-2014, 07:57 PM
I don't even know what I just watched. For most of the episode my dad (who always has to watch the episodes with me) was giving me the weirdest looks. I bet he was thinking something like WHAT THE HECK.
The beginning was okay but near the end's where I lost interest. The episodes are getting worse cause their running out of ideas. This shows going to fall apart before we even get back to NY. :cry:
PangolinFeets
11-21-2014, 07:57 PM
The undercarraige was my favorite part. The car was totally sick.
CyberCubed
11-21-2014, 07:59 PM
Also I'm pretty sure Don/Casey working on that car was a throwback to the first movie.
snake
11-21-2014, 08:08 PM
Also I'm pretty sure Don/Casey working on that car was a throwback to the first movie.
It was totally a reference
Luckyday
11-21-2014, 08:09 PM
Ah man! These hiatuses get worse every season.
Well at least there's not a break after each episode.
snake
11-21-2014, 08:11 PM
Well at least there's not a break after each episode.
Trust me. That'll come later.
ObiWanFan4life
11-21-2014, 08:16 PM
I enjoyed this episode, although I'm convinced that they wrote that ending just so Rob Paulsen would have an excuse to go wild.
Jephael
11-21-2014, 08:16 PM
That episode was so awesome! Everybody was so in character here, and I loved it!!! I'm curious now to find out who provided the voice of the Speed Demon and the human who was his original vessel.
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 08:24 PM
Trust me. That'll come later.
Shh, quiet you, don't give the scheduling people any ideas. :P
Miss the good old days when the original could be counted on to be on every day after school...
Jephael
11-21-2014, 08:25 PM
Miss the good old days when the original could be counted on to be on every day after school...
That's what YouTube and DVDs are for these days!!!
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 08:26 PM
That's what YouTube and DVDs are for these days!!!
Nooo it's just not the same!! lol
Jephael
11-21-2014, 08:28 PM
Nooo it's just not the same!! lol
Yea, I gotta admit I kinda miss those old commercials. The ones they air these days drive me insane! If I see another add for Monster High, I'm gonna bash my head into the television screen!!!
lindz247
11-21-2014, 08:34 PM
Yea, I gotta admit I kinda miss those old commercials. The ones they air these days drive me insane! If I see another add for Monster High, I'm gonna bash my head into the television screen!!!
Hahaha, but seriously please don't. :lol:
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 08:42 PM
I find the mute button at least partially effective. ;) Used it enough I hardly recall what commercials were on tonight during breaks. lol
Still it surprises me that I never really see commercials for Turtles stuff during breaks for their own show. :tconfuse: What sense does that make.
BabyTurtles
11-21-2014, 08:45 PM
so did anything important happen this episode?
I don't feel like watching it.
(and I have waay to much homework)
Jephael
11-21-2014, 08:47 PM
Still it surprises me that I never really see commercials for Turtles stuff during breaks for their own show. :tconfuse: What sense does that make.
Wasn't there some stupid rule put in place by the FCC that commercial breaks weren't allowed to run products based on the show currently airing?
ssjup81
11-21-2014, 08:47 PM
I find the mute button at least partially effective. ;) Used it enough I hardly recall what commercials were on tonight during breaks. lol
Still it surprises me that I never really see commercials for Turtles stuff during breaks for their own show. :tconfuse: What sense does that make.
Wow, that is weird. When the OT was still in syndication and on CBS I recall seeing turtles toy commercials all the time. Same for other shows too, like My Little Pony. I remember pony commercials for that as a kid.
That aside, I can't wait to see this one for the sole purpose of hearing Rob go all out. :lol:
lindz247
11-21-2014, 08:47 PM
I find the mute button at least partially effective. ;) Used it enough I hardly recall what commercials were on tonight during breaks. lol
Still it surprises me that I never really see commercials for Turtles stuff during breaks for their own show. :tconfuse: What sense does that make.
What I always do. Thank god for mute buttons. :tgrin:
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 08:55 PM
so did anything important happen this episode?
I don't feel like watching it.
(and I have waay to much homework)
Well, the car itself is indeed a mutant as some were fearing. Although it's a pretty cool car to be honest. (Wouldn't mind if it caused more trouble later, buuuut I think Leo killed it with the van. lol)
Some bits of character interaction between those that don't get much with each other, as well as some friend-like behavior between Donnie and Casey.
And then there's the chicken...
Wasn't there some stupid rule put in place by the FCC that commercial breaks weren't allowed to run products based on the show currently airing?
o.O Never heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's true.
ssjup81
11-21-2014, 08:57 PM
so did anything important happen this episode?
I don't feel like watching it.
(and I have waay to much homework)Then don't and read a summary. :-P
BabyTurtles
11-21-2014, 08:59 PM
Then don't and read a summary. :-P
just did :)
Powder
11-21-2014, 09:00 PM
That was fun.
NinjaPug
11-21-2014, 09:35 PM
Wasn't looking forward to this episode but thought it was pretty darn good. Very different from every other episode.
Warhorse
11-21-2014, 09:48 PM
I don't even know what I just watched. For most of the episode my dad (who always has to watch the episodes with me) was giving me the weirdest looks. I bet he was thinking something like WHAT THE HECK.
The beginning was okay but near the end's where I lost interest. The episodes are getting worse cause their running out of ideas. This shows going to fall apart before we even get back to NY. :cry:
For the record, I have not seen this episode yet, I was watching MockingJay 1 instead, but, your comment here had to make me giggle. I was trying to convince one of my cousins into watching this show a while back. He loved the 1990 movie of the Turtles, and I know he got into the 2k3 show for a bit, so I told him just give the show a shot, it can be pretty good. It was the night that A Foot too Big came on. By the end, he gave me the dirtiest look, and pretty much told me to never recommend something to him again. This is why I am getting so disappointed with the show, because it went from a once truly witty and entertaining program that the whole family could watch, to now just an embarrassment.
snake
11-21-2014, 10:24 PM
Wasn't there some stupid rule put in place by the FCC that commercial breaks weren't allowed to run products based on the show currently airing?
Can confirm that's not true or not effective anymore, becuase they air a ton of star wars commericals during airings of the new show.
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 10:32 PM
Yay, unlike the beavers this one is actually repeating on Sunday morning. :D
snake
11-21-2014, 10:33 PM
Yay, unlike the beavers this one is actually repeating on Sunday morning. :D
Good. Has that episode ever reaired?
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 10:37 PM
Good. Has that episode ever reaired?
I think only the usual repeat on another Nick channel the same night. Beyond that, doesn't seem so. They seemed to have previously gotten into showing the prior one after the newest, like it should have been on after the new one tonight, but it wasn't. :ohwell:
Feels as if they've avoided showing it again... what did they see that was so bad?
Wildcat
11-21-2014, 10:42 PM
Loved this episode. Favorite filler for me. Probably cause I like cars. I wished the speed demon car didn't explode. Why in midair? Didn't really make sense.
Obviously demon Don was a reference to those car monsters. I don't know what they're called though. Finks? Shame the toy wouldn't be very good if they made one.
Warhorse
11-21-2014, 10:42 PM
I think only the usual repeat on another Nick channel the same night. Beyond that, doesn't seem so. They seemed to have previously gotten into showing the prior one after the newest, like it should have been on after the new one tonight, but it wasn't. :ohwell:
Feels as if they've avoided showing it again... what did they see that was so bad?
The Heavy Metal scene. Heavy Metal is so taboo and evil, don't you know! They had to create boy bands and bubble gum pop to get it out of mainstream radio. :P
lonewarrior20
11-21-2014, 10:52 PM
i had this goin through my head during the race scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isq0DEL940U
stormbringer
11-21-2014, 10:57 PM
A demonic,people eating, mutant car? Who would think in a show about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,that the turtles would seem to be one of the most normal things?:lol:
Luckyday
11-21-2014, 11:00 PM
The Heavy Metal scene. Heavy Metal is so taboo and evil, don't you know! They had to create boy bands and bubble gum pop to get it out of mainstream radio. :P
How much do you wanna bet that they were either threaten by the FCC or Christian parents/soccer moms?
IndigoErth
11-21-2014, 11:07 PM
A demonic,people eating, mutant car? Who would think in a show about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,that the turtles would seem to be one of the most normal things?:lol:
LOL :lol:
Just made me realize something though... If we include the guy who was originally possessed by it and what he looked like while possessed...
The car ♫ "was a one-eyed, one [car]-horned, flying purple people eater." ♪
Until Leo knocked it over the cliff, then it flew. lol
For those too young to get it...
Edit: "Eating purple people," while it ate the purple wearing Turtle. :lol:
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How much do you wanna bet that they were either threaten by the FCC or Christian parents/soccer moms?
Soccer grandmas. The current soccer moms grew up with TMNT. lol Betrayal to their generation if they want to ruin the Turtles success.
Luckyday
11-21-2014, 11:19 PM
LOL :lol:
Just made me realize something though... If we include the guy who was originally possessed by it and what he looked like while possessed...
The car ♫ "was a one-eyed, one [car]-horned, flying purple people eater." ♪
Until Leo knocked it over the cliff, then it flew. lol
For some reason, I hear Bob Dylan in my head when I read that.
Warhorse
11-21-2014, 11:41 PM
LOL :lol:
Just made me realize something though... If we include the guy who was originally possessed by it and what he looked like while possessed...
The car ♫ "was a one-eyed, one [car]-horned, flying purple people eater." ♪
Until Leo knocked it over the cliff, then it flew. lol
For those too young to get it...
Edit: "Eating purple people," while it ate the purple wearing Turtle. :lol:
Rx47qrH1GRs
Soccer grandmas. The current soccer moms grew up with TMNT. lol Betrayal to their generation if they want to ruin the Turtles success.
That's often the case, the ones with the loudest complaints were secretly the biggest fans in the past. I'm not sure why that is though.
TurtleTitan97
11-22-2014, 12:31 AM
This was a great episode. Loved the car scenes in it.
Luckyday
11-22-2014, 12:41 AM
I know that I sound like a broken record but looking back, I don't think season 2 was bad by any stretch of the imagination, and with season 3 so far it's not bad either, but as someone had mention, it's not what we were expecting. I can't put my finger on it but there's something missing from season 1.
Maybe it's missing a theme in character development that could connect all the episodes together but who knows. I'm just spitballing here, folks.
So far from what I've been hearing that there was some actual honest to god character interactions in this new episode from April and Raph to Donnie with Casey and that's great! That's what we've been hoping, right?
zipper
11-22-2014, 02:32 AM
Man this season has been bad. They never explained how a car can mutate and without that, it felt very incomplete. I don't understand the direction that they're taking this show. Season 1 was awesome and I couldn't wait for the next episode. Season 2 had some issues, but was pretty good overall and what a crazy end to it too. But season 3, I just don't know what to say. There are a few good bits in every episode, but The Finger episode is by fa the worst episode ever and the Speed Demon episode just didn't make any sense.
Bring back the Punk Frogs :D
IndigoErth
11-22-2014, 03:03 AM
I want to know how it ended up with "mutagen fuel." It only ran over a little bit, it didn't go into the gas tank. Does the car "die" when the fuel runs out? Does it run out? Or is it more like mutated car blood.
Basti50
11-22-2014, 03:40 AM
They never explained how a car can mutate and without that, it felt very incomplete.
To be fair, I think they do show during the season 2 finale that mutagen can alter non-biological material (although only into crystals, I think?). Doesn't explain how it can make a car turn organic though. Magical ooze powers of convenience, I guess.
evan2000
11-22-2014, 03:45 AM
I enjoyed this episode for the racing theme as I love racing games a lot, although the car modification got really wacky with all the glowing Kraang tech installed, and using a mutagenic egg laid by a brainy chicken as Nitro fuel? :tlol:
Loved all the humor they put in too, "so... your co-pilot is a chicken?"
Overall I enjoyed the entire Season 3 so far, in fact, I especially liked the episode that some of you surprisingly didn't - A Foot Too Big - it is the one I rewatched the most! The one I rewatched the least is Buried Secrets mainly because it's too scary and gross. Though it's nice that the Kraang ship in the basement isn't forgotten and was shown again in this latest ep.
I want to know how it ended up with "mutagen fuel." It only ran over a little bit, it didn't go into the gas tank. Does the car "die" when the fuel runs out? Does it run out? Or is it more like mutated car blood.
I suspect mutagen may have regenerative properties, ie. under the right conditions it can regenerate more of itself over time (or progressively convert other nearby materials into itself). That might explain why the mutagen fuel never fully depletes, and why ICK never run out of ice cream.
Ironically the only mutant so far who can "run out" of mutagen is Mutagen Man. Or maybe he only run out because he consume too much of it for energy while stomping the city, that the mutagen couldn't regenerate fast enough to recover the rapid energy drain. Go figure :trolleye:
How do people miss New York when they're still in New York? :P
Powder
11-22-2014, 04:31 AM
How do people miss New York when they're still in New York? :P
I realize you're prolly just making a funny, but New York is not just a state, but a city. :trazz: It's so nice they named it twice!
IndigoErth
11-22-2014, 04:39 AM
I thought Northampton was in Massachusetts? Is this version a Northampton in NY state? Or is Northampton the name of the house/property? Or was that name never really in this series...now I can't even remember. lol
Powder
11-22-2014, 04:45 AM
It always was/is as far as I know, but in this version they're using the NY Northhampon. I guess they wanna keep them closer to home (Granted if it's upstate, realistically, it could actually be even farther than MA!).
Teddy
11-22-2014, 06:38 AM
Meh. Only good part was the Raph/April moment at the end. I won't be watching this episode ever again.
tmntfanuk
11-22-2014, 06:58 AM
Ugh.
Back to NYC, please.
Keroscene
11-22-2014, 07:08 AM
I can't believe people are failing to enjoy a really funny, character-driven, bizarre and out-there episode because they're too busy worrying about the mechanics of a fictional alien magic-mutating chemical. I don't give a damn if it's in continuity for a car to mutate or not, who cares so long as the results are entertaining?
Karai Samurai
11-22-2014, 07:08 AM
Ugh.
The animation and music were top knotch this episode. Everything else...a mutated car? Really? More love triangle fighting? What happened to Raph and Casey?
I was watching this episode with my eight year old nephew. Halfway through he got up and left. I forced myself to finish the episode.
I'm bored.
Overzealous Odontochelys
11-22-2014, 07:25 AM
I enjoyed the episode because of the early Mirage Studio references.
I think the mutant car idea is taken from the Winter 1992 issue of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Magazine where Motorhead and his army of mutant cars are gonna take over the world.
I think the turtles also meet Garfield in that issue.
I wonder if Motorhead himself will make an appearance in the future?
Mutant Donnie is probably based on a Steve Lavigne portfolio piece of a Rat Fink type turtle and maybe the ghost of Von Clutch in Tales of the TMNT 15?
Fun episode although I wish we could see more of what’s happening back in NY City.
zipper
11-22-2014, 08:06 AM
I just had a thought and it may explain how a car can mutate, sort of. Mutagen changes biological things such as animated creatures or plant life. Gasoline is a fossil fuel, which is a remnant of ancient life, so theoretically mutagen could change fuel or anything else based on petroleum products and in the end mutate a car by way of the fuel. Maybe.
But the house is all fixed up now even though it was damaged in The Croaking. It's nitpicky, but still.
GoldenFlither
11-22-2014, 08:12 AM
I was watching this episode with my eight year old nephew. Halfway through he got up and left.
Kids do that all the time. I was in the kitchen preparing lunch while the kids were in the family room watching this episode, and I was just about to briefly join them when they instead started helping me set the table (without me asking no less). Unless there's something emotional going on, rest assured they will not be sitting in one spot the whole time.
I didn't see much of this one, but I wanted to leave a comment because I did catch the demon Donatello. Did that design happen to be inspired by the plant from Little Shop of Horrors? Or was it just a coincidence?
BubblyShell22
11-22-2014, 08:30 AM
I really enjoyed this episode a lot. Casey was being reckless, but at least he and Donnie worked together and he even saved Donnie and realized what a jerk he's been. It was nice to see April call both boys out on their fighting and tell them to stop, so good for her on that. Loved the alphabet game and the brainy chicken and the name Mikey gave her. Demon Donnie was awesome and Rob knocked it out of the park. But the best part was Leo taking out the car himself. That was great and it made me happy that Leo finally was able to do something after being on the sidelines and only fighting when he had to. Overall, a pretty neat episode. Too bad there's a hiatus, but whatever.
Atren
11-22-2014, 09:25 AM
Bored, tired and so on. Without previous seasons buffer I doubt I would bother continue watching.
Leofan26
11-22-2014, 09:25 AM
What the freak did I just watch? This was worse than the clip show from the Legend of Korra I just watched the other day, at least I got a few laughs out of that one.
If we are going to keep getting episodes like these the rest of season three maybe I'll wait till they get back to New York to continue.
Honestly it's a shame, in the 2003 series it was one of my favorite arcs :(
OrangeNinja1987
11-22-2014, 09:44 AM
Um...I'm not sure what to think about this episode.
It was funny, I'll give it that. And I hope Donnie and Casey stay friendly from now on. The love triangle might be bearable now because what I hate most about it is Casey and Donnie constantly at each other's throats. I also liked the alphabet insult game. Also, I thought April was really well done in this episode. She has a great, kind, independent, and determined personality but it only comes across in some of the episodes.
But everything else...meh. I'm not hating the episode because it mutated a car, I just didn't enjoy it. What was with the chicken? It mutates and they are like "Oh no. Mikey...Darn you. Hey, let's use this chicken in our car!"
Ravenshell
11-22-2014, 10:46 AM
I just had a thought and it may explain how a car can mutate, sort of. Mutagen changes biological things such as animated creatures or plant life. Gasoline is a fossil fuel, which is a remnant of ancient life, so theoretically mutagen could change fuel or anything else based on petroleum products and in the end mutate a car by way of the fuel. Maybe.
But the house is all fixed up now even though it was damaged in The Croaking. It's nitpicky, but still.
What, you thought they'd just leave the holes there? Probably just spackled it with mutagen. It's like WD-40 and duct tape rolled into one, ya know...
Vicky82
11-22-2014, 10:56 AM
I thought the episode was alright, I didn't enjoy it as much as the other episodes as I thought the story was weak but I did like the animation, the music and I liked the car chase and racing scenes. Rob Paulsen did an awesome job voicing Speed Demon Donnie.
I am a bit unsure on the movie references here, I'm assuming they used Fast and Furious, Greece and Christine.
Casey has road rage issues.
The mini van crashes into a tree, proves that it is important to be wearing your seat belt.
Mikey loves his cartoon.
April giving Donnie a neck rub and Casey is going insane over it.
The A -Z insults was funny.
The Speed Demon driver is freaky.
Lol little old lady driving and is unaware whats happening.
Yikes!!! Mikey nearly touched that mutagen.
Lol, there was a chicken in the clutch.
Casey and Donnie bonding while they are working on the car together.
Was Casey and Donnie drinking those disgusting energy drinks.
Mikey has his straw hat on again.
Chicken mutated into a smart chicken, it's a bit freaky seeing its enlarged brain.
Dr Cluckingsworth MD, lol Mikey.
Good enough tyres is a reference to Good Year tyres.
Lol the mutated chicken lays mutagen radioactive eggs.
Speak and Spell computer in Casey's car, I had one of those.
I'm guessing the chicken navigating system is a reference to Kit from Knightrider.
The first guy who was posessed by Speed Demon looks like Elvis.
Oh my god!!! Donnie becoming Speed Demon is freaky.
Donnie's Bo Staff is used as a gear stick.
Yikes!!! Donnie got spark plugs coming out of his shell.
Dead Mans curve!!!!!
Loved the car race scene.
Lol the mutated chicken's egg is used as a speed boost.
The speed boost reminded me of Men in Black, when they pressed the button for speed.
April hugging Raph was great, I'm glad they are interacting more.
I wonder whats going to happen to the mutated chicken, is Donnie going to keep it for a pet or maybe chicken is going to have an important role in changing mutated New York back to normal.
precision
11-22-2014, 10:59 AM
In the episode, the chicken lays eggs of mutagen that fuels the car. Is it the same mutagen the Kraang have? Can it be used to make retro-mutagen to cure Kirby O'Neil and Timothy? The turtles would never have to worry about securing anymore.
evan2000
11-22-2014, 11:35 AM
In the episode, the chicken lays eggs of mutagen that fuels the car. Is it the same mutagen the Kraang have? Can it be used to make retro-mutagen to cure Kirby O'Neil and Timothy? The turtles would never have to worry about securing anymore.
May or may not be the same mutagen. This particular vial was harvested by the frogs and most likely came from what mom-thing was littering over the woods, which came from... the Kraang ship in the basement? If so it could be as old as the mutagen that mutated the turtles themselves, though its properties could have changed over time especially after being contaminated by the water/oil and other impurities from the woods and the people/creatures/car (!) handling it at different times.
Man this show has gotta be a little scary for kids. I do really like what they are doing is this series as a whole though.
Warhorse
11-22-2014, 12:30 PM
Ugh.
The animation and music were top knotch this episode. Everything else...a mutated car? Really? More love triangle fighting? What happened to Raph and Casey?
I was watching this episode with my eight year old nephew. Halfway through he got up and left. I forced myself to finish the episode.
I'm bored.
My cousin and I were chatting this morning, and she said the same thing. She had the show on last night for her girls to watch (ages 9 and 11) and while the 9 year old was a hard core fan of the first two seasons, she hasn't been liking the new season at all, and both begged to have their mom turn it off and put Walking Dead on instead. Personally, the season is a big miss. The ratings for this season I think is a good indiactor to that as well.
Toadtrooper
11-22-2014, 01:02 PM
"[A]ll custom or modified motor vehicles, motorcycles, and trailers must be evaluated by the Department of Motor Vehicles before they can be registered and used on New York's public highways."
http://www.dmv.org/ny-new-york/custom-built-cars.php
But noooo, Donnie driving the hippie bus is so much more suspicious than a teenager speeding in a completely unregistered car.
I miss Shredder so much. He's a character that, well, somebody actually put some thought into.
CyberCubed
11-22-2014, 01:06 PM
I still fail to see how all the one-off mutants from Seasons 1-2 were any different. Rockwell, Cockroach, Squirrelnoids, etc. were all the same type of monsters who didn't speak, etc.
Outside of Rahzar, Fishface, TigerClaw and Slash...I'd say the only other mutant with a decent personality was Newtralizer.
Vicky82
11-22-2014, 01:19 PM
IGN review is up
8.1
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/11/22/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-race-with-the-demon-review
Luckyday
11-22-2014, 01:45 PM
"[A]ll custom or modified motor vehicles, motorcycles, and trailers must be evaluated by the Department of Motor Vehicles before they can be registered and used on New York's public highways."
http://www.dmv.org/ny-new-york/custom-built-cars.php
But noooo, Donnie driving the hippie bus is so much more suspicious than a teenager speeding in a completely unregistered car.
I miss Shredder so much. He's a character that, well, somebody actually put some thought into.
I'm sure Kirby had put a license plate on it.
nimajneb
11-22-2014, 02:18 PM
Great episode - love to see the nods to Casey working on the car in the shed have paid off from previous episodes.
Also, I now need the hot rod in my life - Casey Jones needs his vehicle!
(Although I feel the Donnie monster was a touch ott)
pingclang
11-22-2014, 02:27 PM
This episode was okay. It's been the best since the season premier, and that isn't saying much. This has been an odd season. I was hoping for so much more from the Northampton trip but its been a let down. If others enjoy it, that's awesome, glad you like it but I find myself not even worrying about being in front of the TV at 8. The main reason I watch is hoping for some story progression but no, more Donnie-April-Casey and weird mutants.
Vicky82
11-22-2014, 02:39 PM
I'm not nitpicking but I would of thought that there would be some police out there looking for this lunatic driver as it was breaking news on tv.
"[A]ll custom or modified motor vehicles, motorcycles, and trailers must be evaluated by the Department of Motor Vehicles before they can be registered and used on New York's public highways."
http://www.dmv.org/ny-new-york/custom-built-cars.php
But noooo, Donnie driving the hippie bus is so much more suspicious than a teenager speeding in a completely unregistered car.
I'm sure Kirby had put a license plate on it.
I would assume Casey has a license and havent seen April drive yet so she probably doesn't have one
Anyway I watch alot of police shows Traffic Cops and Road Wars and I guess your driving laws are different to the UK.
It would of been funny if Casey was pulled over for speeding and didn't have any Insurance, Tax, Mot ect and then have the car taken away to the pound and of course end up with points on his license. :lol:
But also Casey shouldn't even be driving the mini van because he has no insurance to drive it.
aliena
11-22-2014, 04:41 PM
Man, this show has so jumped the shark. It's horribly sad to say that. While there were some good moments, I just didn't like it that much. What are they doing? Who is writing this? Are they trying to win over a different fan base? Anyway, I liked the abc insults, Donnie as the car, April telling the guys to stop fighting, April and Raph in the end. That's really it. I rewatched season one so many times, but I doubt I'll ever watch season three again. We'll see how things go when they get back to NY.
BubblyShell22
11-22-2014, 04:46 PM
I love the name Mikey gave the chicken. Dr. Cluckingsworth, M.D. She should so get her own show.
Vicky82
11-22-2014, 04:58 PM
I love the name Mikey gave the chicken. Dr. Cluckingsworth, M.D. She should so get her own show.
The pic is too big
https://33.media.tumblr.com/07bf84636d5f416d8c5d0a44f3d856a6/tumblr_nfgmx3b4ok1qb871zo1_1280.jpg
Coming soon…
There’s fowl play afoot in the hospital, and only one chicken can go against the grain and solve the mystery
Dr Cluckingsworth MD
http://hoy-small-fry.tumblr.com/post/103311328963/coming-soon-theres-fowl-play-afoot-in-the
Turtle-X
11-22-2014, 06:46 PM
really fun but twisted episode. hope we haven't seen the last of Dr. Cluckingsworth. but...get back to NY already. GOSH.
Toadtrooper
11-22-2014, 06:49 PM
I'm sure Kirby had put a license plate on it.
The party wagon has a plate. We'll assume it's legally acceptable.
http://i57.tinypic.com/27zg65w.jpg
You can even make out Speed Demon's plate a few times... DEMON.
http://i61.tinypic.com/2e5irk8.jpg
However, the hot rod Donnie and Jones built is unregistered, uninspected, and without plates. If caught, that's a fine and possible jail time.
It would have been better to slap a plate on the hot rod and never explain it. Then the episode's only really crime would be that all the driving and racing wasn't all that exciting.
IndigoErth
11-22-2014, 06:58 PM
When they go back to NYC, wonder if they'll take the chicken with them?
Or maybe they'll end up given to someone else or just have their own chicken colony with this smart one at the helm.
ssjup81
11-22-2014, 07:06 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what I just watched. lol This ep was okay, it had some pretty good parts.
I like how well Donny and Casey were getting along, and I love Raph's, "I know how you feel, April" at the end. The only thing I can think of right off that I did find a little bothersome, was when April said that they needed to stop fussing or whatever. I had no prob with her saying this, but it bugged me because it's not often we even see this to begin with. The way she seemed to make it was, "OMG, every single time you're in the same room together, you have a go at each other!"which they don't...so seems this ep was set up this way for plot convenience, just like Chinatown Ghost Story, only it was done more so there. Here it was fine.
I'm confused over the mutant car though. How did driving through mutagen get into the car's oil system and stuff. I kinda wish it could've been explained. Did the car mutate that way because the last thing touching it was human?
Some of the things I liked, the homage to the first turtles movie with the ABC insult banter between Donny and Casey there. The See & Say was just pure nostalgia. I never had one, but I remember them.
That chicken...was he supposed to be like Kit from Nightrider? William Daniels was the voice of Kit on Nightrider and the actor played a doctor on St. Elsewhere, so...could that have been the reference? Oh speaking of the chicken, that was weird, but I liked that chicken. How the heck did it get stuck in the clutch? lol
Oh, and seeing Casey in this episode, makes me wonder if it's foreshadowing his temper issue later on or that he may end up having one later on. One of the things I've noticed about both Casey and Raph is how both have very mild tempers compared to their original counterparts. That's one of the things they could bond over because they understood the anger thing. There isn't any anger. Since leaving the city, Raph's temperament has been really calm. I just can't help but wonder if the stuff with Raph is leading to something, and now I wonder this about Casey.
I would say more, but I'm still trying to process what I saw. lol Oh, I really did like Demon Donnie for Rob's work. It was great! The design was cool too. Still wish they could've explained how the car was able to mutate in such a way or maybe have had Donnie come up with a theory as to why, but the mutagen Mom-Thing had wasn't perfected mutagen and as the Kraang have said before the perfection of it, it doesn't work as desired in this dimension and it may not work in the way that you originally intended.
I wonder if they'll keep the chicken. It'll be a nice pet, just like ICK.
Another prediction, that chicken's eggs will help Donnie power up whatever he builds to get them back into the city undetected. As I've been saying for a while, I feel that stealth ship they found in Buried Secrets will become the new Turtle Blimp, but it would need a power source and someone super intelligent to figure it out or help maintain it, right? Maybe that's why the chicken was brought in.
So yeah, I think this ep foreshadowed something is going to change with Casey later on, having him become the iconic hothead we all know his adult self to be (or maybe even Hun will bring that out in him or Casey returning to NYC to see how it is may bring it out), and I am now wondering if when we get the Dark Raph arc, if Casey's going to be the one to contribute to getting Raph out of it. He'll understand the anger issue stuff or "darkness" and maybe finally get the bonding stuff that previous incarnations, sans the OT, of these two characters have had. Seems Raph and Casey don't hang much, accept for when they were doing vigilante stuff (other than Chinatown Ghoststory, but once again, the set up was plot convenience).
Oh yeah, Donnie' bo broke. Think this is another reason why the Spirit Quests are supposed to take place after this episode? They are supposed to get new weapons.
Oh, something else I forgot to mention that I disliked. They mentioned NYC. I really wish that every time they mention NYC, that maybe they look a little awkward and maybe abruptly change the subject to show that they do still think about it and the events that took place. I know this stuff had to have happened offscreen and stuff, but still would be nice to show it every once in a while, but I also have the feeling the Vision Quest will focus on this because each turtle will have to face an old enemy, so we'll probably finally get to see their reactions onscreen to the NYC invasion.
Like I said before, I have no problem with them not showing all that's going on in NYC or what happened to Splinter and the others (I like the suspense and theorizing on this anyway and how things will play out), I have an issue with them not sometimes acknowledging it.
ssjup81
11-22-2014, 07:13 PM
You know, the Shellraiser should've raised a lot of questions and gotten a lot of attention from the cops. No registration. It's also a subway car, not meant for driving on an actual road. I still fail to see how all the one-off mutants from Seasons 1-2 were any different. Rockwell, Cockroach, Squirrelnoids, etc. were all the same type of monsters who didn't speak, etc.So far they're one-off, but yeah, I see what you mean and even then, Bigfoot and the Dream Beavers weren't mutants.Outside of Rahzar, Fishface, TigerClaw and Slash...I'd say the only other mutant with a decent personality was Newtralizer.I don't think the Newtralizer was a mutant. I figured that he was captured or whatever from wherever he's originally from, as the Kraang had his weapons.
CyberCubed
11-22-2014, 07:56 PM
Man, this show has so jumped the shark. It's horribly sad to say that. While there were some good moments, I just didn't like it that much. What are they doing? Who is writing this? Are they trying to win over a different fan base? Anyway, I liked the abc insults, Donnie as the car, April telling the guys to stop fighting, April and Raph in the end. That's really it. I rewatched season one so many times, but I doubt I'll ever watch season three again. We'll see how things go when they get back to NY.
Really? This episode just like most of this season has been good, its just them all being aired back to back that makes it seem so similar.
Bitsy83
11-22-2014, 08:11 PM
Ok, better late than never, right? Believe it or not, I actually saw this episode this morning at 4 am before leaving for work. If i was going to work an 8 1/2 hour shift, I wanted my dose of TMNT beforehand.
There is a lot to talk about in this episode, so I may just have to bounce around a bit here and there. Just bare with me.
Let me just get this out of the way now: Speak n' Says had the voice of the Devil! That is all.
Once again, this episode was SO not what I was expecting, but i was not disappointed either. I thought it was going to be a "Casey trying to impress April and tricks Donnie into making him a new car, which backfired on him" sort of deal, but it was sort of interesting to see Casey having Road Rage. (Shocking, I know. :roll: ) I know people want to see more of Raph/Casey interaction, but I truly believe their building up to a "Tang Shen Parallel." That's why I've tolerated the whole Capritello Love triangle thing for the past season and a half. Remember what happened with Splinter and Shredder:
Shredder and Splinter were best friends.
They were also RIVALS, though in a brotherly way.
Once Tang Shen entered their lives, all that was tested and eventually fell apart.
That's what I think will happen to Donnie and Casey, though not in that order. You saw how upset Casey was when April was rubbing Donnie's neck. Or how Donnie hated Casey giving April that hug. I really want to believe it'll be mentioned during Donnie's Spirit Quest. That he has to stop competing with Casey for April's affections and not risk ruining TWO solid friendships for ONE possible relationship, no matter who April ends up officially choosing. Wouldn't that be freaky if during his quest, he sees a weird reenactment of the day Tang Shen died, and when Shredder turns around, it's either Donnie or Casey's face instead of Oroku Saki's? (Oops, I made a prediction. That means it won't happen. My bad)
As for the mutant-car thing. I'm confused about how the mutagen worked too, but maybe it's not as weird as we think it is. Maybe the car had traces of human DNA under the rim and tires and stuff, so it used that to merge with it's driver, sort of giving it a weird A.I.? The Kraang have mental powers; maybe that batch was a weird psychosis-based formula.
Sort of wished I hadn't seen that Comic Con panel of Donnie as Speed Demon. That would've been a cool twist that I wouldn't have seen coming. For awhile, it really did look like Speed Demon was a mutated human. And I won't lie, once Donnie BECAME Speed Demon, I was really impressed. I liked the spark plugs in his shell and the fuses in his mouth, plus his bo staff as a stick shift was an awesome detail. But what brought it all together was delightful Mr. Paulsen! When you give him a crazy character, he does NOT fail to deliver. I was getting so many flashbacks of Hard Drive from "Swat Katz" and "The Mask" that the whole scene made me feel nostalgic.
I know a lot of people have been comparing the first half of this season to be more Halloween related and they thought this episode would be in that category. For me, it wasn't! This was no more a Halloween episode than "Turtle Temper" with SpyderBytes or "The Alien Agenda" with Justin. It was just another freaky-mutant episode. I haven't seen "Christine", but aside from it begin about a possessed car, I didn't see too many references to horror. Plus, I thought Donnie as Speed Demon was more funny than scary. His big flapping mouth reminded me of a crazy Muppet.
Last but not least: the Chicken. Sort of out of nowhere, but let's just assume this is Donnie's new pet. Like how ICK is Mikey's pet and Spike was Raph's. I actually think ssjup81 made a good point: how the eggs will be a source of fuel for the Turtles. Certainly seems plausible. Plus it was kinda cute once you got past the large brain.
All in all, this was just another fun episode to have before the heavy stuff starts. I really hope people aren't setting the bar too high for the Spirit Quest like they did with North Hampton. During season 2, people couldn't wait to get to that story arc. Since it isn't overly emotional and there's little to no angst, people are bitching again.
Can't please anyone anymore.
ssjup81
11-22-2014, 08:16 PM
I forgot to rank the eps so far and as I've said before, I like something about every single episode of the series as a whole. There are some I would rewatch less than others, though, but I still truly like them.
The Dream Beaver ep and the Punk Frogs eps are still my season 3 favorites so far and both rank first. I've rewatched both many times because I liked them so much.
Next would be a Foot Too Big. It was funny, and I liked Mikey a lot for it...and the nostalgia glasses are on for that one too, so a little bias there.
Next would be Buried Secrets. It was nice to learn more about the Kraang and the hope that April's mom is still alive and well somewhere. Still say they need to bring Kurtzman back in and hope he's still around when they return to the city.
Demon Car ep. The ep was okay, had its moments, but I couldn't see me rewatching this as much as the ones above.
Within the Woods. I've rewatched this one the least. I liked it...but not enough to rewatch it many times like some of the others.
travelingcat
11-22-2014, 09:19 PM
You know Rob Paulsen had a lot of fun voicing this one. :lol:
I enjoyed this one. Not as good as Dream Beavers though. I was afraid there was going to be some idiot ball between them involving the love triangle, but nope. Casey wants to personally take down Speed Demon after being challenged by it, actually begs Donnie to help fix up his hotrod, but gives up trying to beat Speed Demon so he can save Donnie. It didn't require April for them to work together. :thumbsup: Also liked the ABC insults.
Random thing, but I really love the detail that went into to animating the chickens. It's pretty accurate. :)
The only thing I didn't like about this episode were the parts with Dr. Cluckingsworth MD. Just...why? Oh lucky lucky, the bird that accidentally gets mutated instantly knows complicated stuff and can conveniently be a navigator for the Turtle Racer. So forced. :ohwell: Also, the turtles need to ban themselves from keeping normal pets. They just can't stop them from getting into mutagen.
Oh, and seeing Casey in this episode, makes me wonder if it's foreshadowing his temper issue later on or that he may end up having one later on.Well, we see him get pretty mad at Speed Demon just for knocking him off the road, and tries to personally stop it on his own. I'm certain we'll see this behavior again once Hun kicks his butt and cracks his nuts, starting their rivalry.
You know, the Shellraiser should've raised a lot of questions and gotten a lot of attention from the cops. No registration. It's also a subway car, not meant for driving on an actual road.Yeah really. But then, what cop would look at the Shellraiser and try to pull it over?
Shark_Blade
11-22-2014, 09:41 PM
Love it. :D I love the madness and mutated Donnie car thing.
Though the chicken being smart bugged me a little. Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*
Jephael
11-22-2014, 09:51 PM
Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*
Not to mention this is bein produced by the same network that has a cartoon showcasing underwater sea life where somehow there's a secondary body of water.
Metalwolf
11-22-2014, 10:16 PM
Last but not least: the Chicken. Sort of out of nowhere, but let's just assume this is Donnie's new pet. Like how ICK is Mikey's pet and Spike was Raph's. I actually think ssjup81 made a good point: how the eggs will be a source of fuel for the Turtles. Certainly seems plausible. Plus it was kinda cute once you got past the large brain. Either a pet, or another egghead (pun not intended) for Donnie to work with. Maybe that chicken was hanging out in the barn while Donnie was doing his experiments? And since it was able to pick up so fast what they were saying and how to use the computer, she might be able to help Donnie brainstorm ways of getting back into the city.
All in all, this was just another fun episode to have before the heavy stuff starts. I really hope people aren't setting the bar too high for the Spirit Quest like they did with North Hampton. During season 2, people couldn't wait to get to that story arc. Since it isn't overly emotional and there's little to no angst, people are bitching again.
Can't please anyone anymore.I think they will end up doing so. I am enjoying the episodes so far, they seem to no longer have plot amnesia (each episode now leads into the next) and they are lighthearted and fun. I'm actually dreading the return to New York in a sense, because even though I'll see my favorite bad guys again (Xever and Bradford) I know they'll still be nerfed and goofy.
And yeah, the bitching's getting a bit old. I could understand one or two episodes, but if they think the North Hampton eps suck, why not skip them all until we get to the Vision Quest ones? We'll let them know, because everyone else will be shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I hate angst. It's not so bad for an episode or two, but I don't want to see Turtles and co constantly moping around as a form a 'character development.' Not all grieving people act that way, especially not those that still believe their loved one could still be alive.
***First of Two Latin Kings***
11-22-2014, 10:40 PM
This episode REALLY should have had some sort of dedication to Jim Lawson, Dan Berger, and Peter Laird at the beginning or end.
madyankees
11-22-2014, 10:42 PM
MD....MD...
Chicken Power.
Strangely...this is my fav episode so far in Season 3
Luckyday
11-22-2014, 10:47 PM
That's what I think will happen to Donnie and Casey, though not in that order. You saw how upset Casey was when April was rubbing Donnie's neck. Or how Donnie hated Casey giving April that hug. I really want to believe it'll be mentioned during Donnie's Spirit Quest. That he has to stop competing with Casey for April's affections and not risk ruining TWO solid friendships for ONE possible relationship, no matter who April ends up officially choosing. Wouldn't that be freaky if during his quest, he sees a weird reenactment of the day Tang Shen died, and when Shredder turns around, it's either Donnie or Casey's face instead of Oroku Saki's? (Oops, I made a prediction. That means it won't happen. My bad)
Is it possible that we're going to see a confrontation that's similar to this as another homage from the comics?
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Number04.jpg
darthwahl56
11-22-2014, 10:49 PM
This episode makes me want to customize the Mikey Hot Rod for Casey Jones. Then I want an Ed Roth Speed Demon vehicle with Donnie popping out the top.
I liked the fact that Donnie and Casey got along in this episode. Also Mikey calling the bus, the "Party Wagon." Then the smart chicken, very funny new character, still talks in clucks but is crazy smart. I loved the Ed Roth throwback in this episode so much that I didn't care how the car got mutated.
Bitsy83
11-22-2014, 11:06 PM
Is it possible that we're going to see a confrontation that's similar to this as another homage from the comics?
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Number04.jpg
Uh.....I haven't read this issue yet. Why is Casey doing that to Donnie? Are you telling me that these two have bumped heads in the past?
Luckyday
11-22-2014, 11:15 PM
Uh.....I haven't read this issue yet. Why is Casey doing that to Donnie? Are you telling me that these two have bumped heads in the past?
It was for a completely different reason. Casey in the mirage comics killed a kid accidentally and tried to drown his sorrows through alcohol. By the time he meet up with Donnie, he was still a little drunk and well...sorta the stuff that would happen when you end up fighting a drunk.
The difference with the show, Casey could recently come from April after being shoot down or telling him straight that she is not interested into him and Casey being the hothead would think that this all has do with Donnie so when he sees him, he would try to egg him on into fighting him, because Casey is looking for someone to take out his aggression so yeah that how it could happen in the show.
Love it. :D I love the madness and mutated Donnie car thing.
Though the chicken being smart bugged me a little. Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*
Well, at least Mega Brain was a gal this time. You all wanted more girls.
Oh, you wanted a pretty girl, right? Then we'll all have to wait for Renet to crop up.
Powder
11-22-2014, 11:40 PM
This episode REALLY should have had some sort of dedication to Jim Lawson, Dan Berger, and Peter Laird at the beginning or end.
I see no reason for that. Ed Roth, sure, maybe Rick Veitch, but the Mirage fellas? They're into motorcycles.
Ninjinister
11-23-2014, 12:49 AM
Well, it's not up on the places I normally watch (Amazon, PSN) yet. I'll try back again tomorrow.
This is the second time this season that they've failed to have it up on Saturday. Last season they were going up the morning of the episode.
Metalwolf
11-23-2014, 12:59 AM
Well, it's not up on the places I normally watch (Amazon, PSN) yet. I'll try back again tomorrow.
This is the second time this season that they've failed to have it up on Saturday. Last season they were going up the morning of the episode.They have it on Nick now, if you have one of their listed providers. :)
Noxonius
11-23-2014, 05:50 AM
Another episode with a freakishly dark lining on it, I guess that's something I have to get used to know.
How the heck does mutagen even give more scientific information to the creature that consumes it? I know it's a cartoon, but I've gotten used to the realism of the 2003 series. And I also don't like how they keep changing the rules of the show. Mutagen now mutates inanimate objects like cars? Wtf...
Bitsy83
11-23-2014, 10:36 AM
It was for a completely different reason. Casey in the mirage comics killed a kid accidentally and tried to drown his sorrows through alcohol. By the time he meet up with Donnie, he was still a little drunk and well...sorta the stuff that would happen when you end up fighting a drunk.
The difference with the show, Casey could recently come from April after being shoot down or telling him straight that she is not interested into him and Casey being the hothead would think that this all has do with Donnie so when he sees him, he would try to egg him on into fighting him, because Casey is looking for someone to take out his aggression so yeah that how it could happen in the show.
Now THAT would be kinda neat to see. Casey and Donnie have finally become good friends and (for the time being) decided to stop fighting for April, but once April makes her choice (from the looks of it, it'll be Donnie), then we'll see that friendship tested.
Let's say this does happen and Casey decides to confront Donnie about it privately. Then he starts to push Donnie's buttons about him and April and does the poking thing with his hockey stick. A fight breaks out and they start to see what's happening if they continue acting like this.
This is why I wish people would quit complaining about Capritello. Yeah, I can see how it can be a bit irritating and drawn out too long, but I've been hoping that it's all just building up for the Tang Shen parallel. I seriously hope that's what Ciro and the writers have been planning all along with making April a teenager and having Donnie crushing on her.
Hey, maybe THAT'S why they were originally going to have Raph have a crush on her! Because him and Casey have always been great friends in past incarnations and to have them fighting over a girl would be an awesome conflict for them. But Raph's got enough jealousy to deal with with the classic Leo/Raph (which is the more popular for fans) and Donnie has never had love interests (unlike Raph, who had like a girlfriend in almost every incarnation). Either way, they remember the love triangle from the first movie with Shredder and wanted to bring it back for this show and have it involved the Turtles as well!
....that made sense, right?
Luckyday
11-23-2014, 11:35 AM
Now THAT would be kinda neat to see. Casey and Donnie have finally become good friends and (for the time being) decided to stop fighting for April, but once April makes her choice (from the looks of it, it'll be Donnie), then we'll see that friendship tested.
Let's say this does happen and Casey decides to confront Donnie about it privately. Then he starts to push Donnie's buttons about him and April and does the poking thing with his hockey stick. A fight breaks out and they start to see what's happening if they continue acting like this.
This is why I wish people would quit complaining about Capritello. Yeah, I can see how it can be a bit irritating and drawn out too long, but I've been hoping that it's all just building up for the Tang Shen parallel. I seriously hope that's what Ciro and the writers have been planning all along with making April a teenager and having Donnie crushing on her.
Hey, maybe THAT'S why they were originally going to have Raph have a crush on her! Because him and Casey have always been great friends in past incarnations and to have them fighting over a girl would be an awesome conflict for them. But Raph's got enough jealousy to deal with with the classic Leo/Raph (which is the more popular for fans) and Donnie has never had love interests (unlike Raph, who had like a girlfriend in almost every incarnation). Either way, they remember the love triangle from the first movie with Shredder and wanted to bring it back for this show and have it involved the Turtles as well!
....that made sense, right?
I guess so but a part of me wants to think that April will reject Donnie too, because April when looking at herself a mirror and realizes how pitiful she looks in stringing two guys along for a ego boost (maybe her intentions weren't at all selfish and was trying to please everyone like Mako's but who knows) and especially when one said guy has genuine feelings which makes her feel really guilty so she decides to she needs some space and get her priorities re-check.
It hurts her character by not giving her say and making everything she does vague and ambiguous. Especially when there's plot amnesia.
I just feel this love triangle has no direction in where it's going and when I try to make sense of it, a vein starts throbbing and my brain starts to hurt. It just makes me so angry.
Ninjinister
11-23-2014, 11:41 AM
They have it on Nick now, if you have one of their listed providers. :)
Nope! That's why I gotta watch it online in the first place.
cryan
11-23-2014, 01:26 PM
Donnie when he he gets fused with the mutant car reminded me of those maniac racers with the super large heads.
Metalwolf
11-23-2014, 01:36 PM
Another episode with a freakishly dark lining on it, I guess that's something I have to get used to know.
How the heck does mutagen even give more scientific information to the creature that consumes it? I know it's a cartoon, but I've gotten used to the realism of the 2003 series. And I also don't like how they keep changing the rules of the show. Mutagen now mutates inanimate objects like cars? Wtf...The chicken could have been there many times through the months watching him tinker with his computer, the mutagen would simply give it the capacity to understand what he was doing and why.
MikeandRaph87
11-23-2014, 02:01 PM
I cant believe I am typing this but...I am tired of the North Hampton farm getaway, tired of the Don/Casey rivalry for April, and the mutant of the day which must are just random opposed to characters like Mondo Gecko, Ace Duck, and the like.
What is the deal with the hyper intellectual hen? I thought it would have become humanoid?
I will give credit to Ciro and crew for going beyond the animal to humanoid animal with the likes of Snakeweed and Speed Demon among other non-traditional transformations.
CyberCubed
11-23-2014, 02:03 PM
They've been in Northampton for 6 episodes, people are acting like we've spent half the season here.
snake
11-23-2014, 02:29 PM
people are acting like we've spent half the season here.
Hiatuses make you feel like that.
Powder
11-23-2014, 02:35 PM
http://i58.tinypic.com/35mh2yc.png
Couldn't help but draw this. :tlol:
IndigoErth
11-23-2014, 02:54 PM
They've been in Northampton for 6 episodes, people are acting like we've spent half the season here.
Hiatuses make you feel like that.
Yeah, I agree, the darn breaks aren't helping. Just makes it feel as if they've been there that much longer.
They keep up these breaks and we're going to end up catching up to the amount of time the characters themselves have really been there.
http://i58.tinypic.com/35mh2yc.png
Couldn't help but draw this. :tlol:
:thumbsup::thumbsup: That is pretty wicked! :D
victory_angel
11-23-2014, 03:10 PM
Now THAT would be kinda neat to see. Casey and Donnie have finally become good friends and (for the time being) decided to stop fighting for April, but once April makes her choice (from the looks of it, it'll be Donnie), then we'll see that friendship tested.
Let's say this does happen and Casey decides to confront Donnie about it privately. Then he starts to push Donnie's buttons about him and April and does the poking thing with his hockey stick. A fight breaks out and they start to see what's happening if they continue acting like this.
This is why I wish people would quit complaining about Capritello. Yeah, I can see how it can be a bit irritating and drawn out too long, but I've been hoping that it's all just building up for the Tang Shen parallel. I seriously hope that's what Ciro and the writers have been planning all along with making April a teenager and having Donnie crushing on her.
Hey, maybe THAT'S why they were originally going to have Raph have a crush on her! Because him and Casey have always been great friends in past incarnations and to have them fighting over a girl would be an awesome conflict for them. But Raph's got enough jealousy to deal with with the classic Leo/Raph (which is the more popular for fans) and Donnie has never had love interests (unlike Raph, who had like a girlfriend in almost every incarnation). Either way, they remember the love triangle from the first movie with Shredder and wanted to bring it back for this show and have it involved the Turtles as well!
....that made sense, right?
That would make sense.
In the recent episodes Casey has seemed to grasp the idea that April has chosen Donnie but the situations at hand were not the time to confront her about it. Such as when he's kicking Donnie after he drags him down stairs and says he kinda always wanted to do that.
and this recent episode where he says "I don't care about winning, I just want my friend back."
That could be for shadowing where he and Donnie are at odds for Aprils affection. And one of them has to make the choice of losing his rival and possibly April, or saving his rival even if it means he would lose April as a girl friend.
BubblyShell22
11-23-2014, 04:14 PM
The pic is too big
https://33.media.tumblr.com/07bf84636d5f416d8c5d0a44f3d856a6/tumblr_nfgmx3b4ok1qb871zo1_1280.jpg
http://hoy-small-fry.tumblr.com/post/103311328963/coming-soon-theres-fowl-play-afoot-in-the
Ha, nice one, Vicky. Thanks for that.
And that pic is wicked, Powder. Good job.
Dunedain
11-23-2014, 04:18 PM
I actually liked this episode. I don't mind the "hiatus" of this season, and its taking place in a more laid back, different, environment. I understand the bitching by some, but if, and I hope they do, they go back to the fast pace, and similar story lines back in NYC, then all of this should be looked at as a welcomed change of pace.
We should all look at the show, and seasons, as a whole. Each of these episodes, and seasons, as parts of the greater story. When you look at it this way, I don't mind this seasons change of environment. I am hoping this will all lead us to an awesome, action packed, "greater story". We'll have to wait and see, of course, but I am still invested, and along for the ride, no pun intended considering this latest episode, lol.
Lil Karai
11-23-2014, 08:38 PM
Ok I was totally expecting to dislike this episode: yet another mutant, yet another horror/scary reference, yet another episode off the main story arc. ....
BUT I actually thought this episode was pretty cool!
Even for the short snippets that the various turtles had dialog, they were perfectly good in character snippets.
Still not liking Seth for Leo's voice. Everytime he speaks I can picture Seth and it ruins my immersion.
This episode scared me! Dang if I was still a kid, season 3 would definitely be giving me nightmares by now.
Loved the screenshot of the old school Atari racing game (can't remember the name) for the chicken's " autopilot screen. I totally used to play that game!
ranger_scout
11-23-2014, 10:52 PM
While watching the first half of the episode I was going to say that this one was less creepy than the majority episodes from season 3. Then, it all changed when Donatello got eaten by the mutant car and became the driver. It was extremely bizarre, but I liked it.
Klunk1234
11-23-2014, 11:22 PM
Although a little disgusting for the looks of the Speed demon( monster) I liked the way he talks: "Yeah baby". The episode was good to watch, I liked a lot. I'm glad April interacted with Raph at end of it.
Donny's computer84
11-23-2014, 11:28 PM
Pretty good episode, it has some humor in it. The car chasing scene was good.
Jester
11-24-2014, 03:54 AM
I actually really like this episode. I thought the mutant was actually pretty fun. I liked the premise of the car being the mutant and not the person driving it. The design of mutant Donatello and Rob Paulsen voice work worked very well together. I think the only thing that may have bugged me was April's reaction to Danny and Casey's budding friendship. It made her seem like a little bit of a harpy. "Oh no, now they're not fighting over me anymore."
ssjup81
11-24-2014, 04:42 AM
I actually really like this episode. I thought the mutant was actually pretty fun. I liked the premise of the car being the mutant and not the person driving it. The design of mutant Donatello and Rob Paulsen voice work worked very well together. I think the only thing that may have bugged me was April's reaction to Danny and Casey's budding friendship. It made her seem like a little bit of a harpy. "Oh no, now they're not fighting over me anymore."Actually, I interpreted it as, "Ugh, they're going to be cavity inducing sweet and cheesy to the point of it becoming annoying." Main reason I got that impression was because of Raph, and I doubt he cares over them not fighting over April.
You know how someone can be friendly to you to the point of its being sickening? Like Lola from Hey Arnold. That's what I was getting.
Shark_Blade
11-24-2014, 06:21 AM
Can anyone explain to me why April kinda bummed out that Don and Casey became good friends at the end?
Is she jealous she's not the center of attention like some people said?
ssjup81
11-24-2014, 06:36 AM
Can anyone explain to me why April kinda bummed out that Don and Casey became good friends at the end?
Is she jealous she's not the center of attention like some people said?*points to my interpretation*
Shark_Blade
11-24-2014, 06:47 AM
So they're too "cavity inducing" sweet? :P
ssjup81
11-24-2014, 06:49 AM
So they're too "cavity inducing" sweet? :PYup. Maybe they'll become sickeningly sweet or diabetic coma sweet. ><
drgon78
11-24-2014, 06:51 AM
Finally got to see the episode, liked it, but I still like the April's mom, punk frogs, and dream beaver episodes better.
THGhost
11-24-2014, 08:59 AM
Forgot the show was back. Man I hate filler episodes that go on for weeks. :roll:
This one was a lot of fun though. Not the best episode so far but still fun. Loved Demon Donnie and it was nice to have some more Casey for a change.
Did anyone else feel like the animation had improved once more? Especially for April's face.
Rob Paulsen deserves a huge shout-out for this episode. He was using his Gray Fox voice from Metal Gear Solid as mutato-Donnie.
I thought he sounded familiar. I wonder if he even realised he was doing it. :P
coxfire
11-24-2014, 10:58 AM
It was a so-so episode for me. It was fun, but in the end, it isn't one of those episodes I'll remember, and while I don't mind when some episodes are character-centric, having Leo, Mike and Raph reduced to 3 lines each doesn't suit great with me.
I feel like that for most of the Northampton arc, and my biggest issue with this season is that, even if each episode is OK in itself, the season as a whole feels directionless and too disjointed.
I really appreciated the continuity of the previous seasons, and even the fillers didn't seem to pop up out of nowhere like it does this season.
Seeing the guys more invested in racing a car than looking for Splinter or trying to, I don't know, save New York and the world from the Kraang+Shredder is really starting to bug me.
THGhost
11-24-2014, 11:15 AM
It was a so-so episode for me. It was fun, but in the end, it isn't one of those episodes I'll remember, and while I don't mind when some episodes are character-centric, having Leo, Mike and Raph reduced to 3 lines each doesn't suit great with me.
I feel like that for most of the Northampton arc, and my biggest issue with this season is that, even if each episode is OK in itself, the season as a whole feels directionless and too disjointed.
I really appreciated the continuity of the previous seasons, and even the fillers didn't seem to pop up out of nowhere like it does this season.
Seeing the guys more invested in racing a car than looking for Splinter or trying to, I don't know, save New York and the world from the Kraang+Shredder is really starting to bug me.
We're only 6 episodes in, it's a little early to calling the season as a whole anything just yet. :P
At this point, the filler episodes aren't coming out of nowhere at all. We've come to expect them because they're all we've had this season. I'm looking forward to an episode that isn't filler, then that will have come out of nowhere.
coxfire
11-24-2014, 11:38 AM
I see your point, but I like to see shows as a whole and not necessarily as season after season, which is why I stated this is how I feel like
I felt that S2 follow-up S1 better, whereas here, it's like nothing happened before and we shifted into a show with one-shots only
So, in the global scale of the show, I feel like I have watched 6 fillers, and they could have aired out of order without it being important. The 2 previous seasons didn't leave me this impression, or at least fillers weren't that numerous back to back. But as I said: personal opinion and feeling here.
Luckyday
11-24-2014, 12:13 PM
Most of there episodes would'v been better place after they go back and rescue New York rather then before. They would just need make one scene or dialogue of the turtles saying that Master Splinter and Karai went off to train some more and that they were told to relax a few days at the farm. That's it. That's only thing that the writers should have to done for them not talk about New York.
The only episode that was need to air before the "Return to New York" was The Creep and Buried Secrets. Everything else could have wait until after the arc was done.
TigerClaw
11-24-2014, 12:22 PM
What was going through everyone's mine when April put her arms around Raph? lol
Luckyday
11-24-2014, 12:42 PM
What was going through everyone's mine when April put her arms around Raph? lol
"People are reading way too much in this. Out all of the four of them, Raph acts like a brother to her the most and vice versa." :lol:
Mellie
11-24-2014, 12:54 PM
What was going through everyone's mine when April put her arms around Raph? lol
I thought it was cute. April realized Raph was a little jealous and gave him a 'I feel ya' bro hug. I'm so happy those two are interacting more this season.
THGhost
11-24-2014, 01:01 PM
So, in the global scale of the show, I feel like I have watched 6 fillers, and they could have aired out of order without it being important. The 2 previous seasons didn't leave me this impression, or at least fillers weren't that numerous back to back. But as I said: personal opinion and feeling here.
There's a theory going round that the horror themed episodes were meant to be aired leading up to Halloween, but were pushed back because of the new movie being released.
What was going through everyone's mine when April put her arms around Raph? lol
This:
April realized Raph was a little jealous and gave him a 'I feel ya' bro hug.
lindz247
11-24-2014, 03:10 PM
OK good. I was a little freaked out there cause I thought April was like showing affection for Raph and I could NOT see that happening :lol:
BubblyShell22
11-24-2014, 04:19 PM
Nah, it was more of a friend thing she was doing. I don't see it as a sign of romantic affection, though I'm sure there are some who may it see that way.
Turtle-X
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
"People are reading way too much in this. Out all of the four of them, Raph acts like a brother to her the most and vice versa." :lol:
pretty much this.
TigerClaw
11-24-2014, 04:39 PM
Nah, it was more of a friend thing she was doing. I don't see it as a sign of romantic affection, though I'm sure there are some who may it see that way.
Yeah, just cause someone puts there arms around someone, Doesn't mean they are romantically involved.
BubblyShell22
11-24-2014, 04:41 PM
I know. I used to do that to my friends all of the time.
THGhost
11-24-2014, 05:46 PM
I had girls do that with me all the time in school. That didn't mean they fancied me, unfortunately. :P
Ninjinister
11-24-2014, 08:25 PM
Alright I've been patient but it's Monday night and still no episode on Amazon or PSN. What the fart am I paying these people for if they can't give me my content?
THGhost
11-24-2014, 08:59 PM
Alright I've been patient but it's Monday night and still no episode on Amazon or PSN. What the fart am I paying these people for if they can't give me my content?
*Pssst* Download it illegally...
Or just watch it HERE (http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-306-full-episode.html) ;)
ssjup81
11-24-2014, 09:19 PM
It was a so-so episode for me. It was fun, but in the end, it isn't one of those episodes I'll remember, and while I don't mind when some episodes are character-centric, having Leo, Mike and Raph reduced to 3 lines each doesn't suit great with me.
I feel like that for most of the Northampton arc, and my biggest issue with this season is that, even if each episode is OK in itself, the season as a whole feels directionless and too disjointed.
I really appreciated the continuity of the previous seasons, and even the fillers didn't seem to pop up out of nowhere like it does this season.We don't know if these eps are fully "Filler" yet, though. I personally feel that eps like Within the Woods and Buried Secrets aren't filler. Within the Woods showed Leo waking up and having injury issues while Buried Secrets gave us background on the Kraang and why April was targeted in the first place and what possibly happened to her mother (which goes back to the stuff Kurtzman was talking about). Speaking of Kurtzman, I really really hope they go back to him. I want to know what the deal is and how he found out as much as he did. Being an investigative reporter can only get you so far.
Oh yeah, there's also the fact that that Kraang ship is there and when it is time to sneak back into NYC, they can maybe find a way to use it.
Even though this current ep felt like a filler, I feel that brain chicken will come in handy later. Maybe it is filler, maybe it isn't, but I'm going with its currently not being filler, as I feel it's going to play a role later on. The eggs powering whatever Donnie builds to sneak back into NYC and the chicken being able to communicate. Casey's rage issues (which may come into play with Hun). Donnie broke his staff; unless he has others lying around, where will he get another one? Seems Splinter fixed up the weapons whenever damaged. Vision Quests, they all get newer weapons.
Dream Beavers ep....I think may not be fully filler, as I feel that it's subtly hinting at the Dark Raph arc coming up.
I dunno. I can see the eps as a whole being "filler", and I definitely understand why folks think so or view them that way, but for me, since the first and second season did this with its eps, that things happen in the episodes that will come back later on, even if it's subtle.Seeing the guys more invested in racing a car than looking for Splinter or trying to, I don't know, save New York and the world from the Kraang+Shredder is really starting to bug me.But they really couldn't go back because of Leo being injured and based on Within the Woods, they all, maybe outside of Mikey, think he's "gone". Maybe that's why they haven't bothered and more concerned with Leo healing up.
They need something to push them into wanting to go back to NYC, and I guess that's what the Vision Quest will be for.
victory_angel
11-25-2014, 12:31 AM
and the reason the Turtles aren't watching the news is because they have been in Farm House for over 3 nearly four months now.
Odds are that New York is under quarantine, the government particularly the EPF and by that extent Bishop is trying to keep things under wraps so that a national panic doesn't happen. And besides the News can't report on what they don't know.
So everything depends on Leo's recovery, because going back with Leo less then 100% would be suicide.
Noxonius
11-25-2014, 05:24 AM
I am totally looking forward to seeing Bishop in this show, it can happen since the Earth Protection Force is apparently in it.
Ninjinister
11-25-2014, 07:30 AM
*Pssst* Download it illegally...
Yeah no. Never gonna happen.
Or just watch it (legally) HERE (http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-306-full-episode.html) ;)
If I had a cable provider to give them a login for, I'd watch it on my cable.
coxfire
11-25-2014, 08:46 AM
But they really couldn't go back because of Leo being injured and based on Within the Woods, they all, maybe outside of Mikey, think he's "gone". Maybe that's why they haven't bothered and more concerned with Leo healing up.
And I get that they didn't go back to NY, but them never talking about Splinter since episode 1 of this season, or not even mentionning planning to return is what makes me feel like the guys don't care anymore. It is probably untrue, but I felt like the show is stalling, and chossing an easy way out rather than investing in building the story.
I do hope I'm wrong and that these episodes will all reveal that they have their importance in the global plot, but it is starting to get long for me. Hence my difficulty to enjoy the season for now. Maybe it'll be better when I binge-rewatch the season.
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 08:59 AM
Either that or you could binge watch all of the halloween episodes after the turtles go back to save New York city from the Kraang.
Ugh... What are they doing to this series? It seems each new episode is even more over-the-top than the last.
I enjoyed the Casey/Donny interactions and I liked Rob Paulsen's role when Donnie was mutated, you could tell he was letting himself go there.
Other than that...disappointing. Can't we have one episode without a mutant or some weird creature?
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 04:04 PM
Ugh... What are they doing to this series? It seems each new episode is even more over-the-top than the last.
I enjoyed the Casey/Donny interactions and I liked Rob Paulsen's role when Donnie was mutated, you could tell he was letting himself go there.
Other than that...disappointing. Can't we have one episode without a mutant or some weird creature?
I don't know what kind of show you could write without either of those things.
BubblyShell22
11-25-2014, 04:13 PM
Well, my guess is that the vision quest episode won't involve mutants or anything else but the Turtles trying to find the courage to go back to NYC. I think it's more than that they don't care. I really feel that Leo is not only suffering from physical wounds but mental wounds due to the attack and because of that he's not ready to go back and face Shredder because of what happened. I know they really haven't addressed that in the show yet, but I really feel this is what's going on because I can't see Leo not wanting to go back to New York as soon as he's physically healed up.
Ninjinister
11-25-2014, 04:42 PM
Folks, please stop posting these Youtube links to the episode. It's against forum rules (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/announcement.php?f=41&a=7) AND international copyright law.
Yes, I'm frustrated that I can't watch it right now. I'm just going to watch it at my parents' on demand when I go over for Thanksgiving.
@ BubblyShell22
I missed your post the first time. But you make some very good points about Leo and how he might feel about going back to New York. I would love to see how their characters will develop in the upcoming episodes. Lots of potential there.
I don't know what kind of show you could write without either of those things.
I don't mind mutants, I know they're part of the storyline. But six episodes in a row?
I like mutants or weird characters when they're implemented in a good way. (Like that ancient sorcerer near the end of season 2, Xever and Dogpound, Tigerclaw, Karai's mutation, Leatherhead and even Timothy due to giving Donatello character development and an understanding what it means to be responsible for someone)
But these episodes just feel like they're weird just for the sake of being weird. It also feels IMO they're dragging this out.
I became a fan of this series because of character development, character interactions and interesting storylines like for example Leo/Karai, Splinter/Shredder, turtles/Shredder, Karai/Shredder, etc. (I would have loved to see more development from the Purple Dragons like in the episode "Never say Xever") The Kraang and "mutant of the day" episodes I knew I just had to accept. But having six of those in a row just feels too much for me.
I would like episodes that focus on the main characters themselves, and on interactions with each other and maybe with other humans. Having so many mutants removes focus from the main characters and I guess that's what annoying me a little. But maybe the upcoming episodes will change that.
For the record, I'm still a fan of this series. I've bought every DVD that came out of this series in my country and will continue to do so. I'm positive good things are coming for this series.
On a more unrelated note, I miss New York.
snake
11-25-2014, 07:25 PM
I don't know what kind of show you could write without either of those things.
An episode without a mutant or monster would be pretty easy to do. Just look at New Friend Old Enemy, that one had no mutants or anything.
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 07:33 PM
An episode without a mutant or monster would be pretty easy to do. Just look at New Friend Old Enemy, that one had no mutants or anything.
Notice how it also the only Mikey episode that did revolve around "You guys don't take me seriously" rehash.
snake
11-25-2014, 07:34 PM
Notice how it also the only Mikey episode that did revolve around "You guys don't take me seriously" rehash.
Yeah. That was a great episode and I think they should've done a Klunk episode like that.
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 07:42 PM
Yeah. You know season 1 episodes were kind of bare and simple in concept when comparing to the new ones but somehow it made it better for the writer that handling the individual episodes because it gave free reign to something with it and gave moments of the characters interacting with each other. It was nice.
Although there were some episodes in which it was too minimal. Turtle Temper was the only one that I could think of that had this problem.
snake
11-25-2014, 07:44 PM
Yeah. You know season 1 episodes were kind of simple compare to the new ones.
I wouldn't call them simple, because they were a lot more serious and had a different tone from seasons 2 and 3.
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 08:06 PM
I wouldn't call them simple, because they were a lot more serious and had a different tone from seasons 2 and 3.
You right. There wasn't anything wacky or nonsensical. Even Mikey wasn't as cartoonish and low key compared to now.
The another thing that I really like about it was that the comedy was base on clever dialogue instead of them acting like complete tools. What happen to that?
BabyTurtles
11-25-2014, 08:30 PM
Notice how it also the only Mikey episode that did revolve around "You guys don't take me seriously" rehash.
why do they keep making Mikey episodes all the same?? T^T
Luckyday
11-25-2014, 08:32 PM
and yet they keep bringing it back pretty much every Mikey episode...
.....why do they keep bringing it back?
Because they don't know what else to do with him.
ssjup81
11-25-2014, 08:53 PM
why do they keep making Mikey episodes all the same?? T^T
Probably because it's relateable to those who are the youngest in their families where no matter what, the older sibs may still feel the need to assert authority over the younger one and brush them off because of that.
In Buried Secrets, though, there was no legit reason for him to be believed. I did notice a pattern, though...watch out for characters with green eyes. Irma, April's mom, and Raph (later). :P
ShelleyQuick
11-25-2014, 09:07 PM
Probably because it's relateable to those who are the youngest in their families where no matter what, the older sibs may still feel the need to assert authority over the younger one and brush them off because of that.
^^This right here, I'm the youngest of four(I can completely relate to Mikey) I was married for TEN years before my parents and older brothers and sister stopped treating me like a baby. My mom still does sometimes.
THGhost
11-25-2014, 09:19 PM
Folks, please stop posting these Youtube links to the episode. It's against forum rules (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/announcement.php?f=41&a=7) AND international copyright law.
Yes, I'm frustrated that I can't watch it right now. I'm just going to watch it at my parents' on demand when I go over for Thanksgiving.
Apologies. It isn't against site rules for you to go watch it on YouTube or Nick's site right now though.
Just thought you should know that I've had a YouTube link to this episode hidden in my signature all this time. j/k ;)
Slade
11-25-2014, 10:45 PM
Was bored with this one.
BabyTurtles
11-25-2014, 11:49 PM
Probably because it's relateable to those who are the youngest in their families where no matter what, the older sibs may still feel the need to assert authority over the younger one and brush them off because of that.
In Buried Secrets, though, there was no legit reason for him to be believed. I did notice a pattern, though...watch out for characters with green eyes. Irma, April's mom, and Raph (later). :P
I get it. I relate alot to Mikey too, but I think it's a shame that they can't focus on other aspects of his character.
2 "we don't believe in Mikey" episodes are enough.....having it happen over and over again makes the boys seem like jerks....and the writers forcing Mikey to reset back each and every time so the boys can have a legit reason to not believe him is kinda annoying......
character development means that a character is changes/grows.....not regress back to stage 1. :ohwell:
ssjup81
11-26-2014, 01:30 AM
I get it. I relate alot to Mikey too, but I think it's a shame that they can't focus on other aspects of his character.
2 "we don't believe in Mikey" episodes are enough.....having it happen over and over again makes the boys seem like jerks....and the writers forcing Mikey to reset back each and every time so the boys can have a legit reason to not believe him is kinda annoying......
character development means that a character is changes/grows.....not regress back to stage 1. :ohwell:But it's still a realistic approach. I can't relate to this as I haven't any siblings, but have seen it with my family regarding my mother's sisters. Despite being nearly 50 years old, my mother's youngest sister is still treated like the baby and coddled by my grandmother. She isn't like this with my mother (who is the second oldest, nearing 60) or her other kids, but with this particular aunt, she is and will probably always be treated this way by her. I've noticed this with my three younger cousins too (all three siblings). The youngest isn't taken as seriously as the two older ones, despite them all being in their twenties now.
BabyTurtles
11-26-2014, 01:56 AM
But it's still a realistic approach. I can't relate to this as I haven't any siblings, but have seen it with my family regarding my mother's sisters. Despite being nearly 50 years old, my mother's youngest sister is still treated like the baby and coddled by my grandmother. She isn't like this with my mother (who is the second oldest, nearing 60) or her other kids, but with this particular aunt, she is and will probably always be treated this way by her. I've noticed this with my three younger cousins too (all three siblings). The youngest isn't taken as seriously as the two older ones, despite them all being in their twenties now.
it doesn't matter if it's realistic or not, if the show keeps having Mikey mess up in every episode about him just so he can prove himself it's gonna get repetitive and boring to watch.
I don't want every Donnie episode to be about April
I don't want every Raph episode to be about his temper
I don't want every Leo episode to be about his leadership skills.
it's boring to watch the same stories over and over again, just with a different goal and villain.
I appreciate that they want to show Mikey proving himself....but they need to expand on his stories.
It came from the Depths was a great Mikey episode because it was about his compassion....not how he royally screwed up something in a random episode just so the boys can bag on him......so he in turn can later prove himself.
seriously...it's been like 5 episodes about this....it's like they don't know what to do with Mikey.
blindturtle02
11-26-2014, 07:26 AM
Alright I've been patient but it's Monday night and still no episode on Amazon or PSN. What the fart am I paying these people for if they can't give me my content?
I e-mailed amazon about it on Tuesday and in about three hrs, it was up. I guess you have to remind them these days. I should have done this earlier. Whenever I have for the last four or so episodes, they've taken care of it the same day.
I liked this episode. Speed Demon Donnie was insane, but one of my favorites. Rob really stole the show here and rightfully so. Cluckingsworth was another one of my favorites. Guess we'll see her again eventually. I wonder what Splinter is going to think of her if the boys bring her back to NYC. The action bits were cool, and I really dug the turtle racer. Can't wait for the next episode.
BubblyShell22
11-26-2014, 08:57 AM
I have a feeling Cluckingsworth will play a role in how they get back to NYC. Maybe her eggs will help power the Turtle Blimp. I'm stoked for the next episode, too, but I have a feeling we won't be seeing it until January.
FlawedCoil82
11-27-2014, 03:29 AM
Yea this show is becoming embarrassing now. I can not handle much more of this. I have hated EVERY episode from Season 3. I don't like horror movies, so those references are useless. I don't like "so crayzee it's SICK!" type mentalities. I don't like insane, "far out" storylines and characters that are designed solely to make a viewer go "well that was weird". I don't like Leo's new voice. The turtles are absolutely brain dead if they still believe that they are one iota safer in this "Farmhouse Of Hell" than back in New York. Every blasted episode is just like that criminally unfunny "Courage, The Cowardly Dog" cartoon that was out years ago which was only funny to people who think "weird" is automatically "good/entertaining". I will probably give it three more episodes to redeem itself. If this malarky continues beyond that, then I am cancelling the series off my DVR.
CowabungaMikey
11-27-2014, 06:28 AM
This was an awesome episode. Way better than the last one. I loved it!
Shark_Blade
11-27-2014, 08:41 AM
Yea this show is becoming embarrassing now. I can not handle much more of this. I have hated EVERY episode from Season 3. I don't like horror movies, so those references are useless. I don't like "so crayzee it's SICK!" type mentalities. I don't like insane, "far out" storylines and characters that are designed solely to make a viewer go "well that was weird". I don't like Leo's new voice. The turtles are absolutely brain dead if they still believe that they are one iota safer in this "Farmhouse Of Hell" than back in New York. Every blasted episode is just like that criminally unfunny "Courage, The Cowardly Dog" cartoon that was out years ago which was only funny to people who think "weird" is automatically "good/entertaining". I will probably give it three more episodes to redeem itself. If this malarky continues beyond that, then I am cancelling the series off my DVR.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=50181
IndigoErth
11-27-2014, 12:24 PM
Looks like they have plans on repeating this one (and Dream Beavers before it) next Friday night, for anyone still missing a chance to see it or catch a repeat.
pannoni1
11-27-2014, 02:53 PM
I actually thought this was a decent episode given that sometimes, you need to trigger some old excitement with a twist to keep the series interesting. I liked Cluckinsgworth, thinking that when it touched the mutagen, it would turned into a baddie only to become a new companion. That said, speaking of I miss New York, they may as well be driving in some western state with the sharp cliffs at the side of the mountain, as ironically "lost" describes the direction this series has gone. The Crognard Barbarians continues its solid job with the foreshadowing. But what I liked the most is how the Speed Damon had the power to cause Don to turn evil and hyper, and its always intriguing to get the reactions that took place.
Overall: 7/10
BubblyShell22
11-27-2014, 03:03 PM
Looks like they have plans on repeating this one (and Dream Beavers before it) next Friday night, for anyone still missing a chance to see it or catch a repeat.
Really? Cool. I'll check out the Dream Beavers one again since I only saw that once, but I'll skip this one since I saw it on Sunday already.
TrickOrTreater
11-27-2014, 08:31 PM
Yea this show is becoming embarrassing now. I can not handle much more of this. I have hated EVERY episode from Season 3. I don't like horror movies, so those references are useless. I don't like "so crayzee it's SICK!" type mentalities. I don't like insane, "far out" storylines and characters that are designed solely to make a viewer go "well that was weird". I don't like Leo's new voice. The turtles are absolutely brain dead if they still believe that they are one iota safer in this "Farmhouse Of Hell" than back in New York. Every blasted episode is just like that criminally unfunny "Courage, The Cowardly Dog" cartoon that was out years ago which was only funny to people who think "weird" is automatically "good/entertaining". I will probably give it three more episodes to redeem itself. If this malarky continues beyond that, then I am cancelling the series off my DVR.
You must be real fun at parties. I just do not get some of you people.
Anyway, another great, fun, hilarious episode. I wonder who on the show is a fan of Ed Roth/Rat Fink.
Dr. Cluckingsworth MD was great.
And this episode actually surprised me. I was totally expecting a Christine story with Donnie finding the car, which was a mutant, and it slowly taking him over and corrupting him until it merged with him, resulting in the Donnie Speed Demon.
This was definitely better than that would have been. Can't wait for the next episode.
Ninjinister
11-27-2014, 09:40 PM
Finally saw it yesterday, I really enjoyed it. It's about darn time Steven Jay Blum got a TMNT role outside of The Way of The Warrior, heh.
I hope Dr. Cluckingsworth (MD) makes continued appearances like Ice Cream Kitty does :)
Commenter 42
11-28-2014, 11:28 PM
Honestly, Ciro and the gang continue to surprise me with how creative they get.
I absolutely loved this episode.
It's getting so that this might just be my favorite animated version of TMNT.
So irreverent, so much fun.
Please release all seasons on Blu-ray soon. Dvd's just don't cut it.
Shark_Blade
11-29-2014, 12:29 AM
I've been asking for blu ray since the dawn of time.
supersonicshion
11-30-2014, 01:21 PM
GREAT Episode! Rat Fink Donnie was awesome, the 70s themed / Tarantino sort of music was a great touch. I'm so happy we're watching a show aimed to older people as well as kids, the fan service quality is excellent. Plus, I really hope they will make a vinyl figure lile Kidrobot Speed Demon Donnie or something.
TMNTFOREVA
12-04-2014, 10:21 PM
A little late here, but is anyone wondering how many people are shipping RAPHXAPRIL? It's interesting. But.........
I can't say "I ship Rapril." It just feels weird.
Luckyday
12-04-2014, 10:26 PM
Well they are similar. The April in this version isn't science incline as she was in the 2k3 series. And Raph is similar to Casey so he's close to April's type.
snake
12-04-2014, 10:40 PM
A little late here, but is anyone wondering how many people are shipping RAPHXAPRIL? It's interesting. But.........
I can't say "I ship Rapril." It just feels weird.
Rapril.
:lol:
IndigoErth
12-04-2014, 10:57 PM
Yeaaaah... that doesn't work too well. lol
Raphril maybe... lol Aphael?
TMNTFOREVA
12-04-2014, 11:12 PM
Yeaaaah... that doesn't work too well. lol
Raphril maybe... lol Aphael?
Maybe, but I've already seen one RaphxApril fanfiction. It's spreading........ :teek:
snake
12-04-2014, 11:15 PM
Maybe, but I've already seen one RaphxApril fanfiction. It's spreading........ :teek:
I think were talking about the name. :lol:
Rapril. Say it. It'll come to you.
TMNTFOREVA
12-04-2014, 11:21 PM
I think were talking about the name. :lol:
Rapril. Say it. It'll come to you.
Fine..
Rapril.
supersonicshion
12-05-2014, 07:26 AM
I like the mother like feelings she has for the four of them, I saw the hug as pure care and affection. It´s more realistic and more human.
redsai4lex
12-06-2014, 12:51 AM
Yikes! This ep kinda freaked me out a bit, but I think that was the idea. :tlol:
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BubblyShell22
12-06-2014, 08:37 AM
I actually like the idea of Raphril myself and have seen some good stories featuring it. Granted, I'll always like Apriltello, but a little variety doesn't hurt.
Warhorse
12-07-2014, 01:30 AM
I actually like the idea of Raphril myself and have seen some good stories featuring it. Granted, I'll always like Apriltello, but a little variety doesn't hurt.
In Target April O Neil, I really digged when Kurtzman first meets the gang, and he calls out April's name, and Leo immediately put himself between April and the stranger in a protective stance. And then there was New Girl in Town, when Leo went to April to ask her about girls, I just really liked the close friendship Leo and April have formed, and that it's purely innocent. I'm not a fan of the pairing, but I looked to it like how Harry Potter and Hermione Granger's friendship is like.
Donnieangelo
12-07-2014, 10:48 AM
In Target April O Neil, I really digged when Kurtzman first meets the gang, and he calls out April's name, and Leo immediately put himself between April and the stranger in a protective stance. And then there was New Girl in Town, when Leo went to April to ask her about girls, I just really liked the close friendship Leo and April have formed, and that it's purely innocent. I'm not a fan of the pairing, but I looked to it like how Harry Potter and Hermione Granger's friendship is like.
Actually, Kurtzman was in The Kraang Conspiracy.
MikeandRaph87
12-07-2014, 10:57 AM
Lets return to New York City, meet Bebop and Rocksteady, and be done with the Kraang invasion angle! Who is with me?
Donnieangelo
12-07-2014, 11:00 AM
Lets return to New York City, meet Bebop and Rocksteady, and be done with the Kraang invasion angle! Who is with me?
Well, I am!
IndigoErth
12-07-2014, 04:00 PM
Lets return to New York City, meet Bebop and Rocksteady, and be done with the Kraang invasion angle! Who is with me?
Yeah, at this point I am. Was enjoying the idea of a new location, fresh air and all that. But so far the story isn't really getting anywhere.
I like where they're at, but at least give the being there more purpose. You went there for reasons, you didn't just decide to up and move to the country and live a simpler life.
Luckyday
12-07-2014, 04:14 PM
Yeah, at this point I am. Was enjoying the idea of a new location, fresh air and all that. But so far the story isn't really getting anywhere.
I like where they're at, but at least give the being there more purpose. You went there for reasons, you didn't just decide to up and move to the country and live a simpler life.
I really hope it won't be like this if they ever go to Japan. I better see Splinter's parents and for them to meet their adoptive grandkids.
MikeandRaph87
12-07-2014, 08:37 PM
Yeah, at this point I am. Was enjoying the idea of a new location, fresh air and all that. But so far the story isn't really getting anywhere.
I like where they're at, but at least give the being there more purpose. You went there for reasons, you didn't just decide to up and move to the country and live a simpler life.
That is what I am feeling. I feel like they are just letting the Kraang destroy NYC and are not searching for Splinter like they did in the 2003 cartoon. Its just taking us to a new location to bring in no purpose mutants. Punk Frogs,yes. I see purpose in the mud creature similar to Snakeweed and even Bigfoot makes some sense especially if it would have tied up Don's crush angle. Car mutant? Dream beavers? Alien construct of April's mom? Come on,two to three episodes and then move back to finish the fight. Real time 7-10 days. I do like the Northampton farmhouse concept as a getaway and want to see reoccurring but spaced out and with purpose.
Also, has it ever been said that Yoshi's parents are alive? It is a concept unexplored in versions that Splinter is Hamato Yoshi. So I am open to it.
Luckyday
12-07-2014, 08:50 PM
That is what I am feeling. I feel like they are just letting the Kraang destroy NYC and are not searching for Splinter like they did in the 2003 cartoon. Its just taking us to a new location to bring in no purpose mutants. Punk Frogs,yes. I see purpose in the mud creature similar to Snakeweed and even Bigfoot makes some sense especially if it would have tied up Don's crush angle. Car mutant? Dream beavers? Alien construct of April's mom? Come on,two to three episodes and then move back to finish the fight. Real time 7-10 days. I do like the Northampton farmhouse concept as a getaway and want to see reoccurring but spaced out and with purpose.
Also, has it ever been said that Yoshi's parents are alive? It is a concept unexplored in versions that Splinter is Hamato Yoshi. So I am open to it.
Do you think Shredder had kill them after he found about his true origin? He was wearing the foot symbol during the Tang Shen's flashback.
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
12-07-2014, 10:05 PM
That is what I am feeling. I feel like they are just letting the Kraang destroy NYC and are not searching for Splinter like they did in the 2003 cartoon. Its just taking us to a new location to bring in no purpose mutants. Punk Frogs,yes. I see purpose in the mud creature similar to Snakeweed and even Bigfoot makes some sense especially if it would have tied up Don's crush angle. Car mutant? Dream beavers? Alien construct of April's mom? Come on,two to three episodes and then move back to finish the fight. Real time 7-10 days. I do like the Northampton farmhouse concept as a getaway and want to see reoccurring but spaced out and with purpose.
Also, has it ever been said that Yoshi's parents are alive? It is a concept unexplored in versions that Splinter is Hamato Yoshi. So I am open to it.
If they are gonna let the Turtles be in different locations I would kill to have them go to Japan. I think they are gonna go back to NY soon though and find Splinter and have another huge showdown. I would just love for them to go to Japan though.
Luckyday
12-07-2014, 10:46 PM
It may be somewhere in the far future, but question is not why but how? I suppose Donnie can whip up a jet plane or just use the turtle blimp that he will built for the Return to New York arc while adding some new add on accommodations. Another thing is will it mostly take place in just one location like North Hampton? Tokyo would be out of the question. And honestly, I am just sick of seeing Tokyo. Seriously, Japan has so many awesome places other then Tokyo. No more Tokyo, please.
Also since Splinter himself has regional Japanese dialect. ( I assuming that he does since he doesn't pronounce certain Japanese words usually like kunoichi then it would make much more sense to have place somewhere in his fictional hometown. That way the location can be small but beautifully detail since the budget is not stretch so thin, we wouldn't have the "Why are the streets so empty at night" thing and the animation team wouldn't have to worry about making the location look accurate to what suppose to represent. Problem solved.
IndigoErth
12-07-2014, 10:57 PM
Would be awesome if they did visit Japan, even more-so if Yoshi's parents, or at least some family, are still around. (Do we know about how old this Splinter is supposed to be?) It could be really cool if it turned out he'd continued communicating with some of his family once in a while by letter all those years, but they have no clue quite how his life has changed. Not the details he keeps secrete at least. That would be an interesting reunion for sure.
If Karai could control the shape shifting it would be nice if she could return with them and visit members of her true family.
Luckyday
12-07-2014, 11:06 PM
Would be awesome if they did visit Japan, even more-so if Yoshi's parents, or at least some family, are still around. (Do we know about how old this Splinter is supposed to be?) It could be really cool if it turned out he'd continued communicating with some of his family once in a while by letter all those years, but they have no clue quite how his life has changed. Not the details he keeps secrete at least. That would be an interesting reunion for sure.
If Karai could control the shape shifting it would be nice if she could return with them and visit members of her true family.
He would be able to contact them if he did? The foot would have be able get hold of their letters.
ssjup81
12-07-2014, 11:09 PM
It may be somewhere in the far future, but question not why but how? I suppose Donnie can whip up a jet plane or just use the turtle blimp that he will built for the Return to New York arc while adding some new add on accommodations. But another thing is will most of it will take place in just one location like North Hampton so Tokyo is out of the question. And honestly, I am just sick of seeing Tokyo. Seriously, Japan has so many awesome places other then Tokyo. No more Tokyo.Tokyo is just so standard and everyone knows it, but yeah. It sorta bothered me in that ep where Karai went to that noodle shop and explained to April about the machine. I did hate the fact she said that it's in Tokyo as opposed to the country as a whole. Those machines are common at ramen shops.Also since Splinter himself has regional Japanese dialect. ( I assuming that he does since he doesn't pronounce certain Japanese words usually like kunoichi then it would make much more sense to have place somewhere in his fictional hometown. That way the location can be small but beautifully detail since the budget is not stretch so thin, we wouldn't have the "Why are the streets so empty at night" thing and the animation team wouldn't have to worry about making the location look accurate to what suppose to represent. Problem solved.I don't think he has a particular dialect. Even in the Wormquake ep it sounded neutral...like how they speak in Tokyo. As for his pronunciation of "Kunoichi", it's just the correct pronunciation of it.
Luckyday
12-07-2014, 11:29 PM
Tokyo is just so standard and everyone knows it, but yeah. It sorta bothered me in that ep where Karai went to that noodle shop and explained to April about the machine. I did hate the fact she said that it's in Tokyo as opposed to the country as a whole. Those machines are common at ramen shops.I don't think he has a particular dialect. Even in the Wormquake ep it sounded neutral...like how they speak in Tokyo. As for his pronunciation of "Kunoichi", it's just the correct pronunciation of it.
I have to take your word for it but I still don't want it to be Tokyo. Maybe it just me but I feel that all of the old Japan cliches are often use in Tokyo with Karaoke, the school girls, and just everything else in general and that pounded into my skull way too much. Plus I would rather see some other place that's smaller and base on a different location that we don't see to often unless it's an anime. With a different location there would be more emphasis on personal details of said setting instead of having this generalize assume version of Tokyo that been portray from Western movies that have english speaking protagonists like Teen Titans or Kill Bill.
They should either do with small home town that is fictionalize or do some research somewhere that has historical significance with marital arts.
IndigoErth
12-08-2014, 01:04 AM
I keep picturing an area that's a bit more rural some a distance from any city. Could make for some pretty landscapes for the designers to create. Don't focus it on a city... in that case the show itself may as well not bother leaving NYC again.
TrickOrTreater
12-08-2014, 01:12 AM
I like where they're at, but at least give the being there more purpose. You went there for reasons, you didn't just decide to up and move to the country and live a simpler life.
Their purpose was to escape with their lives, regroup after a figurative ass-beating, and let Leo heal after his literal ass-beating.
3 months+ being gone. Realistic amount of time for Leo to have recovered. Any less and people would be complaining about that.
The + being the couple weeks all the weird mutant sh*t is happening. Which is fine because it's all cause and effect and not just "oh the Turtles are here now so it just so happened that weird sh*t was going to go down anyway."
Plus the EPF is there, and has probably quarantined New York.
Hell, we might even get a few Karai/Splinter bonding episodes soon.
Also, it's only like 6 episodes in in a show that has 26 episodes a season. Once the Turtles make it back to New York and regroup with Splinter, Karai, Leatherhead, and any other mutant who hates the Kraang, they probably defeat the Kraang, defeat Shredder, retro mutate everybody that's been mutated, and then the season is over. They HAVE to time it right and pace it out.
After two seasons of doing nothing but New York and mutants and Kraang and Shredder, the folks behind the show are also probably a little burned out on it and the Northampton farmhouse is giving them not only a brand new setting, but also a chance to stretch their horror fanboy wings and cut loose a bit. While still giving us fun Turtles stuff.
SO I say stay in Northampton and creep it up for as long as they feel the story needs to, hit up that spirit quest, get in touch with Splinter mentally, and then head back to New York for a huge Turtle/Mutant on Shredder/Kraang all out brawl.
As a life-long horror and Ninja Turtle fan, I'm enjoying the ride.
Come on,two to three episodes and then move back to finish the fight. Real time 7-10 days.
...so you want an 8 episode season. With Leo healing up from the savage beating he got from Tigerclaw, Rahzar, Xever, Foot Ninjas, AND Shredder in a week and a half.
...
Well, that certainly is a thing.
BubblyShell22
12-08-2014, 08:16 AM
Definitely agree with Trick here. They can't go back to New York yet without an effective plan, and as I've stated before, I feel that while Leo may be physically healed now, he still might have mental scars from the beating he took so he's not ready to face that yet. I can't say I blame him for that, so just let them stay in Northampton as long as they need to and the rest will come.
Luckyday
12-08-2014, 09:08 AM
Their purpose was to escape with their lives, regroup after a figurative ass-beating, and let Leo heal after his literal ass-beating.
3 months+ being gone. Realistic amount of time for Leo to have recovered. Any less and people would be complaining about that.
The + being the couple weeks all the weird mutant sh*t is happening. Which is fine because it's all cause and effect and not just "oh the Turtles are here now so it just so happened that weird sh*t was going to go down anyway."
Plus the EPF is there, and has probably quarantined New York.
Hell, we might even get a few Karai/Splinter bonding episodes soon.
Also, it's only like 6 episodes in in a show that has 26 episodes a season. Once the Turtles make it back to New York and regroup with Splinter, Karai, Leatherhead, and any other mutant who hates the Kraang, they probably defeat the Kraang, defeat Shredder, retro mutate everybody that's been mutated, and then the season is over. They HAVE to time it right and pace it out.
After two seasons of doing nothing but New York and mutants and Kraang and Shredder, the folks behind the show are also probably a little burned out on it and the Northampton farmhouse is giving them not only a brand new setting, but also a chance to stretch their horror fanboy wings and cut loose a bit. While still giving us fun Turtles stuff.
SO I say stay in Northampton and creep it up for as long as they feel the story needs to, hit up that spirit quest, get in touch with Splinter mentally, and then head back to New York for a huge Turtle/Mutant on Shredder/Kraang all out brawl.
As a life-long horror and Ninja Turtle fan, I'm enjoying the ride.
...so you want an 8 episode season. With Leo healing up from the savage beating he got from Tigerclaw, Rahzar, Xever, Foot Ninjas, AND Shredder in a week and a half.
...
Well, that certainly is a thing.
The thing about these North Hampton's episodes is that no one seem to be talking about New York or what they going to do. Maybe if there were scenes they feeling lost of what comes next or something that shows that they're trying to avoid the topic but none enough of that really happens. I assume it's all off the camera but seriously, if weren't for Leo's leg and I would have forgotten what happen last season and assume they were on vacation.
I don't think you would need to have a length of more episodes to justified how long it takes to heal. With storyboarding, you give appearance that that three months have past. Legend of Korra did with flashbacks. TMNT could have done with transition scenes or a montage could have taken care of that.
Since in every incarnation of the franchise, with the exception being OT, North Hampton was a place that they always come back more then once in a series. All they have to edit out Leo limping in "A Foot too Big", and the "Croaking" and then both of those episodes could easily been shown after the Return to New York arc is finish.
I have to wonder if there anything left in New York that's still standing. Even after they come back and save it, the place would probably have so much damage left over by the Invasion that I could see them just simply wanting to go back to North Hampton and maybe then that when we will see what was missing during the first time that they were there.
evan2000
12-08-2014, 09:27 AM
All they have to edit out Leo limping in "A Foot too Big", and the "Croaking" and then both of those episodes could easily been shown after the Return to New York arc is finish.
You'll never know. Maybe the events in A Foot too Big would later become the key to further developments of Donnie/April's relationship, and the frogs might end up aiding the turtles in the Return to New York arc. There could be some cause-and-effect happening, we'll see.
IndigoErth
12-08-2014, 11:15 AM
Their purpose was to escape with their lives...
Wasn't stating there was none, I was saying that there is and that the show could use a little more focus on that.
And a lot of that being things I have thought and/or stated as well previously. I'm not really one to complain about fillers, scattered throughout I don't mind them and they're usually a fun (hey, I am the one who made the "favoite filler" thread after all lol), though at this point it would be a plus if they'd weave a little more of the underlying story into these episodes.
Leo's got his hints of healing happening so he's got his thing going, but it's sort of the only thread tying things together right now. Other little touches would be helpful. Hope things are about to get a little more back on track once it returns.
snake
12-08-2014, 01:56 PM
You'll never know. Maybe the events in A Foot too Big would later become the key to further developments of Donnie/April's relationship, and the frogs might end up aiding the turtles in the Return to New York arc. There could be some cause-and-effect happening, we'll see.
Weren't the frogs leaving state?
BubblyShell22
12-08-2014, 04:16 PM
Yeah, they were heading to Louisiana.
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
12-08-2014, 09:14 PM
I keep picturing an area that's a bit more rural some a distance from any city. Could make for some pretty landscapes for the designers to create. Don't focus it on a city... in that case the show itself may as well not bother leaving NYC again.
Something else I think would be cool is it would be a really great way to work in Usagi. If Stan Sakai's people would allow it I suppose.
ssjup81
12-08-2014, 10:31 PM
I have to take your word for it but I still don't want it to be Tokyo.I wonder how Splinter speaks in the Japanese dub now. I wonder if he uses anything like "de gozaru" in his speech pattern, like how Japanese shows depict some ninja and samurai.Maybe it just me but I feel that all of the old Japan cliches are often use in Tokyo with Karaoke, the school girls, and just everything else in general and that pounded into my skull way too much.Hate to break it to you, but that's not a "Tokyo" thing. That's a Japan thing. :lol: But I do get where you're coming from.Plus I would rather see some other place that's smaller and base on a different location that we don't see to often unless it's an anime. With a different location there would be more emphasis on personal details of said setting instead of having this generalize assume version of Tokyo that been portray from Western movies that have english speaking protagonists like Teen Titans or Kill Bill.Well...it is overly done, yes, but you'll more than likely find English speakers in Tokyo compared to other parts of the country because there are many foreigners in the area and there's the fact that kids are forced to start studying English from their first year of junior high school up to their last year of high school may have something to do with it too, and the kids down there will probably have more of an opportunity to use it compared to other places. The government is intent on having good English speakers in time for the 2020 Olympics. Good luck with the way they teach it here in public schools. -_-
Anyway, there are also more bilingual and international schools in Tokyo. So it would be more likely to come across someone with decent English compared to say...Sapporo (Hokkaido), for instance, or even where I live. They have so many places in Tokyo for English speakers, including doctors.
But, there are suburban places in Tokyo as well as smaller towns. It's like New York. There's more to the place than just NYC.They should either do with small home town that is fictionalize or do some research somewhere that has historical significance with marital arts.Or ninja-related stuff in general. The first place that comes to mind for me is Iga down in Mie-ken. It's famous for the Iga clan or whatever. I was actually planning on visiting, but never got the chance to take such a long trip. Sometimes I wish I did live in Tokyo. Closer to some of those places compared to where I am.
For Splinter, though, I could see a character like his being from Kyoto (which is Japan's old capital) and before that, Nara was the capital. So yeah, maybe they could go that path if they ever do a Japan story. Have him come from Kyoto or Osaka or Kobe.
In the Archie Comics, we find out that Yoshi was living in Hiroshima as a child and witnessed the bomb drop and was a survivor of it (which helped put an age on him for that continuity). Interesting if they could even go that route. I also like the Japan arc for that, since the turtles weren't hanging around Tokyo, but I forgot where in Japan they were.
Luckyday
12-08-2014, 10:55 PM
In the Archie Comics, we find out that Yoshi was living in Hiroshima as a child and witnessed the bomb drop and was a survivor of it (which helped put an age on him for that continuity). Interesting if they could even go that route. I also like the Japan arc for that, since the turtles weren't hanging around Tokyo, but I forgot where in Japan they were.
I think they were on fox people island but I'm not sure. I would really like it if they end up seeing some yokai, maybe even a kappa or two. The tone of the new location if it's a old shrine should be mysterious and quiet like a ghost story instead of a horror slasher film.
But still I would want to see Yoshi's parents just to see the reactions they have when they meet their four adopted turtle grandkids for the first time and maybe to get idea of what Yoshi and Saki were like as children. I have a feeling that Yoshi was a cross between Mikey and Raph. Charming and charismatic but quick temper and cocky.
Warhorse
12-09-2014, 08:47 PM
The thing about these North Hampton's episodes is that no one seem to be talking about New York or what they going to do. Maybe if there were scenes they feeling lost of what comes next or something that shows that they're trying to avoid the topic but none enough of that really happens. I assume it's all off the camera but seriously, if weren't for Leo's leg and I would have forgotten what happen last season and assume they were on vacation.
I don't think you would need to have a length of more episodes to justified how long it takes to heal. With storyboarding, you give appearance that that three months have past. Legend of Korra did with flashbacks. TMNT could have done with transition scenes or a montage could have taken care of that.
Since in every incarnation of the franchise, with the exception being OT, North Hampton was a place that they always come back more then once in a series. All they have to edit out Leo limping in "A Foot too Big", and the "Croaking" and then both of those episodes could easily been shown after the Return to New York arc is finish.
I have to wonder if there anything left in New York that's still standing. Even after they come back and save it, the place would probably have so much damage left over by the Invasion that I could see them just simply wanting to go back to North Hampton and maybe then that when we will see what was missing during the first time that they were there.
Well, maybe, just maybe, like how Pizza Face was supposed to have been a dream of Mikey's, maybe pretty much the beginning of season 3 with all the bizarre episodes are dreams Leo is having, and when the Vision Quest episodes come around, he actually wakes up and all the memories of the beat down, invasion and whatnot come flooding back to him.
Luckyday
12-09-2014, 09:15 PM
Well, maybe, just maybe, like how Pizza Face was supposed to have been a dream of Mikey's, maybe pretty much the beginning of season 3 with all the bizarre episodes are dreams Leo is having, and when the Vision Quest episodes come around, he actually wakes up and all the memories of the beat down, invasion and whatnot come flooding back to him.
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ssjup81
12-09-2014, 09:43 PM
I think they were on fox people island but I'm not sure. I would really like it if they end up seeing some yokai, maybe even a kappa or two. The tone of the new location if it's a old shrine should be mysterious and quiet like a ghost story instead of a horror slasher film. I'm sure the horror theme is finished given that these eps were probably supposed to have been shown earlier. The next ep, to my knowledge, I thought, was supposed to be the Vision Quest ones.
That aside, still wish I could recall where they were supposed to have been or where the island was.But still I would want to see Yoshi's parents just to see the reactions they have when they meet their four adopted turtle grandkids for the first time and maybe to get idea of what Yoshi and Saki were like as children. I have a feeling that Yoshi was a cross between Mikey and Raph. Charming and charismatic but quick temper and cocky.When telling the story, he said he "lost" his clan. I was under the impression that maybe he was the lone survivor of the Hamato clan...other than Karai.Well, maybe, just maybe, like how Pizza Face was supposed to have been a dream of Mikey's, maybe pretty much the beginning of season 3 with all the bizarre episodes are dreams Leo is having, and when the Vision Quest episodes come around, he actually wakes up and all the memories of the beat down, invasion and whatnot come flooding back to him.I was wondering if Within the Woods was a dream episode when I first saw it since it was so weird. Like a bad Raph dream due to his lack of proper rest...but given some of the stuff shown, like Buried Secrets and that Demon Car ep, it kinda tosses the dream theory out the window, doesn't it?
Warhorse
12-09-2014, 10:05 PM
I'm sure the horror theme is finished given that these eps were probably supposed to have been shown earlier. The next ep, to my knowledge, I thought, was supposed to be the Vision Quest ones.
That aside, still wish I could recall where they were supposed to have been or where the island was.When telling the story, he said he "lost" his clan. I was under the impression that maybe he was the lone survivor of the Hamato clan...other than Karai.I was wondering if Within the Woods was a dream episode when I first saw it since it was so weird. Like a bad Raph dream due to his lack of proper rest...but given some of the stuff shown, like Buried Secrets and that Demon Car ep, it kinda tosses the dream theory out the window, doesn't it?
Not if the dreams are some sort of premonition, or maybe he was going in and out of consciousness. Either way, since Buried Secrets, nothing has been mentioned about the spaceship under the house since then? So it could easily have been a dream of Leo's. Could explain why one episode, April is kissing Donnie nearly on the mouth, and in the next episode, he's still vying for her affection, like the last episode never took place.
Luckyday
12-09-2014, 10:06 PM
I'm sure the horror theme is finished given that these eps were probably supposed to have been shown earlier. The next ep, to my knowledge, I thought, was supposed to be the Vision Quest ones.
That aside, still wish I could recall where they were supposed to have been or where the island was.When telling the story, he said he "lost" his clan. I was under the impression that maybe he was the lone survivor of the Hamato clan...other than Karai.I was wondering if Within the Woods was a dream episode when I first saw it since it was so weird. Like a bad Raph dream due to his lack of proper rest...but given some of the stuff shown, like Buried Secrets and that Demon Car ep, it kinda tosses the dream theory out the window, doesn't it?
I suppose so but seeing how Splinter avoids going to the surface, it wouldn't be surprising if he had cut contact with them because he reach the point of no return and he couldn't reach them in fear of attracting attention from the Shredder.
ssjup81
12-09-2014, 10:09 PM
Not if the dreams are some sort of premonition, or maybe he was going in and out of consciousness. Either way, since Buried Secrets, nothing has been mentioned about the spaceship under the house since then? So it could easily have been a dream of Leo's. Could explain why one episode, April is kissing Donnie nearly on the mouth, and in the next episode, he's still vying for her affection, like the last episode never took place.Actually, the Demon Car ep mentioned the space ship again. Donnie used components from it to help build the car.
There's Cluckingsworth too who lay those mutant eggs that powered the car. I figured that they're going to use the ship to sneak back to NYC when the time comes and use Cluckingsworth to help power it.
ssjup81
12-09-2014, 10:11 PM
I suppose so but seeing how Splinter avoids going to the surface, it wouldn't be surprising if he had cut contact with them because he reach the point of no return and he couldn't reach them in fear of attracting attention from the Shredder.That could be the case. I guess he could've meant it in a figurative sense as opposed to a literal one.
Luckyday
12-09-2014, 10:28 PM
That could be the case. I guess he could've meant it in a figurative sense as opposed to a literal one.
Plus would the Shredder go so far to kill the people that raise him as their own? I mean sure his entire family was slaughter by his adoptive father but have you notice that Shredder was wearing the foot symbol in a flash back when he was just Oroku Saki? I am not sure that means anything but he clearly have found out the truth, and there is no indication that he had recently slain his adoptive parents so maybe this Tang Shen love triangle is mere a frosting on his **** cake called life.
His revenge is just a outlet or excuse of a deeper troubling issue that he can't not or mentally refuse to confront himself.
This why I need to see Yoshi's parents. There is just too much character development potential to not go to Japan.
Plus the idea of the turtles having a grandma is just so freak'in adorable.http://i.imgur.com/3dMjp.gif
DarthRaphael
12-10-2014, 02:50 PM
Every time I see one of these episodes at the farmhouse I wonder how long they will drag it out. Yes Leo needs to heal but he should be close to ready by now. I can't help but wonder what the Krang have been doing all this time and how far their reach is. You wouldn't think that they would have stayed only in NYC the whole time, would you?
IndigoErth
12-10-2014, 03:15 PM
Plus the idea of the turtles having a grandma is just so freak'in adorable.http://i.imgur.com/3dMjp.gif
Omg let it happen.
I could see Mikey just eating up the whole concept and being close with her. And a grandmother could be a gentle, understanding hand when Raph is mad at the world.
ssjup81
12-10-2014, 03:29 PM
Every time I see one of these episodes at the farmhouse I wonder how long they will drag it out. Yes Leo needs to heal but he should be close to ready by now. I can't help but wonder what the Krang have been doing all this time and how far their reach is. You wouldn't think that they would have stayed only in NYC the whole time, would you?Unless the EPF has done something to keep everything under wraps. I don't see how, given the power the Kraang has, but that's my theory for now.
Luckyday
12-10-2014, 03:55 PM
Omg let it happen.
I could see Mikey just eating up the whole concept and being close with her. And a grandmother could be a gentle, understanding hand when Raph is mad at the world.
Or she could be the most judgmental woman of Japan. Maybe this could explain why Splinter is such a elitist at times.
BubblyShell22
12-10-2014, 05:00 PM
I think Mikey would LOVE having a grandma to spoil him. I could see him gloating and saying, "See? She likes me the best. I'm her favorite."
And as for Leo healing, he may be healed physically, but he still probably has mental wounds that probably haven't healed yet.
Sumac
01-31-2015, 10:23 AM
Another nightmare tribute episode. Meh...
Though, I liked Cluckenstein M.D. I wonder what will happen with that...mmm...character. Otherwise, nice episode, but nothing special.
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