who would you choose to be director of a tmnt film?

[kev trashcan]

I have a couple of ideas.

I would really want to see a tmnt movie directed by guillermo del toro. it wouldn't have to be completely based on the original comics but really inspired by them. definitely have it set in 1984 and have the creature design team from hellboy working on it. I think he would do an awesome urban sci-fi/fantasy version that wouldn't even need to leave the sewers for the first movie. the mousers push the turtles deep into the sewer discovering the other mutants along the way or something and at the end realizing that baxter stockman's strings are being pulled by shredder, and then the reason for their training is reviled. think about how awesome his version of splinter would be too.

also it would have been great if david cronenberg had made a tmnt movie back in the 80's. staying true to the comics but adding a level of body horror on the account of mutation.

[Shark_Blade]

Alfonso Cuaron (Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban, Gravity).

Michael Bay (Transformers).

[Autbot_Benz]

Alfonso Cuaron (Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban, Gravity).

Michael Bay (Transformers).

agreed with the bolded.

[Leo656]

Frank Miller...

....HAH! :lol: Just seeing who was paying attention. That'd be the drizzling sh*ts. I don't have a real answer. Kinda don't want any more movies.

[ToTheNines]

John Favreau has a great knack for combining humor, drama and action, and incorporating CGI characters.

More importantly I'd like someone who "gets" Turtles to write the script.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Favreau, Deltoro or Kevin Smith


someone who understands comic to film transition

[Leo656]

Kevin Smith? Really? :lol:

Even Kevin Smith hates the way Kevin Smith makes movies now. :lol:

I'm a big fan in general, especially of his earlier work, but dude's totally lost his touch. I'm glad he realized it and all but retired from directing before he slipped even further into self-parody.

I wish certain other directors would take the hint and follow suit. Big name types who make bad movies on purpose. Anybody who's only in it for the paycheck and doesn't care about the product. You know the type.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Brad Bird or John Woo. They both know how to film action sequences and make them seem interesting.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Kevin Smith? Really? :lol:

lol , ill admit ive only seen his older stuff ..so my eyes may be blinded to his new things

[Leo656]

Even his older stuff is only great because of the terrific characters/dialogue, though. Even Kevin is the first one to say that all of his movies look terrible.

He's a "good director" in that he knows how to help get really great performances out of his cast, but he doesn't know how to actually set up and film a scene properly, especially anything action-wise. That's why now he's more a "hack for hire" who just writes and touches up scripts and lets other people do all the "real" work.

[evan2000]

I wouldn't mind a Tim Burton TMNT. Live action of course, not stop motion.

Can you imagine what sort of mutants he will produce?

[Leo656]

I don't want to see the Turtles all decked out in black and white striped bandannas. :lol: And we already got Edward Shredderhands with the last movie. :lol:

[Galactus]

A few names already that I'd agree (Del Toro would be great) with but to add two more.

Zack Snyder. He actually is high profile and was a fan of the original Mirage comic.

Robert Rodriguez. He can do adult, The Desperado "trilogy" and Sin City and kid aimed pictures like Spy Kids. I think he's really "get" TMNT.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Steve Wang.

Because he was an FX guy (working on films like The Monster Squad) which you can find here https://www.facebook.com/StevewangCreatureCreator.

PLUS he directed two films that, if you combined the two, would Equal Ninja Turtles (a Real, Good Ninja Turtles movie).

One film he directed was Guyver: Dark Hero...with just a meager $500,000 who directed guys in suits into an 'R-Rated Power Ranger' style movie with practical monster suits and all (and the lead is the same guy who voiced Solid Snake in the Metal Gear Solid games), mixed in with well done Martial Arts...if you can do that with just half a million...imagine what he can do with a much bigger budget. It shows that he can work with people in suits mixed with Martial Arts choreography.

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And the next film he directed was Drive with Mark Dacascos & Kadeem Hardison, an action/comedy that was done on a small $3 million budget. It showed (once again) wonderful Martial Arts choreography, using a budget well (and not splurging it), as well as fun banter/comedy/connection between the leads (that's actually funny) which should be essential for a Turtles movie.



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So...a Director that has used tiny as hell budgets ($500,000 & $3 million) in an Extremely Effective Manner (the money is on the screen, not wasted). A Director that knows how to direct Fight/Action Sequences, as well as dealing and Making Monsters/Suits/Creature FX. And a director that has At Least dealt in the realm of both comics (in the effect that The Guyver is based on a Manga) AND in the action/comedy genre (with Drive from 1997).


To me, Steve Wang would be the Perfect Choice.

[Leo656]

I could actually see Del Toro or Rodriguez.

I like Snyder's movies but I don't think his style fits TMNT at all, honestly. I think his style is too "big" and I think that was already a problem with the last movie.

[kev trashcan]

Kevin Smith? Really? :lol:

Even Kevin Smith hates the way Kevin Smith makes movies now. :lol:

I'm a big fan in general, especially of his earlier work, but dude's totally lost his touch. I'm glad he realized it and all but retired from directing before he slipped even further into self-parody.

I wish certain other directors would take the hint and follow suit. Big name types who make bad movies on purpose. Anybody who's only in it for the paycheck and doesn't care about the product. You know the type.

kevin smith came out of retirement, he made tusk and it was really good. his next movie is called yoga hosers.

[Leo656]

Ah, didn't know that. Although I did say "all but retired", because I wasn't sure and wanted to hedge my bets just in case.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

kevin smith came out of retirement, he made tusk and it was really good. his next movie is called yoga hosers.

Making crap like Red State & Tusk is evidence that Kevin should have went with that whole Retirement thing.

If you want to see a selfish idiot played by Justin Long get turned into a Walrus by Michael Parks who has 20 minute monologues...and then add an annoying as hell Johnny Depp in a faker than hell French Accent playing a Canadian, where everyone in Canada says 'Aboot'...then I guess Tusk is for you. That movie sucked.


Robert Rodriguez hasn't been involved in a good film since Planet Terror. He produced Predators and that movie sucked. Sin City 2 sucked. And the Machete films sucked. No thanks on Rodriguez.

Zack Snyder screwed up big time with that terrible Man of Steel flick.

And Del Toro stank up the place with Pacific Rim which was boring as hell. The only good scene was the fight in Hong Kong (even with that stupid 'out of the blue sword' thing.

[B-Man]

kevin smith came out of retirement, he made tusk and it was really good. his next movie is called yoga hosers.

I liked 'Tusk' too. Attended a special midnight screening knowing very little about it beforehand and... whoa. Didn't know the guy would actually be turned into a Leatherface-version of a walrus. Didn't know Johnny Depp would be popping up halfway through & taking over the movie. I fully understand why some would hate it but it was instantly one of my fave cult horror comedies.

Anyways, my dream director - Brad Bird. Others would be Gareth Evans, Jon Favreau, Kim Jee-Woon, Jody Hill, David Gordon Green, Peter Travis & Drew Goddard.

(anyone remember when John Woo was gonna direct an all-CGI animated movie in the early 2000's? That would've been sweet).

[kev trashcan]

other directors I'd like to see do ninja turtles are

Alex Proyas
done with similar style as the crow and dark city.

Jason Eisener
hobo with a shotgun is one of my favorite movies. a ninja turtles movie done in this grindhouse/ hyper candy colored violent style would be amazing to me.

theres got to be others I'm not thinking of.

[Powder]

Lloyd Kaufman.

[FakeBritishAccent]

Even his older stuff is only great because of the terrific characters/dialogue, though. Even Kevin is the first one to say that all of his movies look terrible.

He's a "good director" in that he knows how to help get really great performances out of his cast, but he doesn't know how to actually set up and film a scene properly, especially anything action-wise. That's why now he's more a "hack for hire" who just writes and touches up scripts and lets other people do all the "real" work.

Not to get too off topic, but have you seen "Red State" or "Tusk"? As a longtime Kevin Smith fan, I was worried about the direction his career was taking, but I thought those two films were incredible. I even read some reviews from folks who DIDN'T like those movies where they admitted they couldn't stop thinking about them.

And visually, he's definitely turned a corner. Those two movies are wonderfully shot. Not just good for a Kevin Smith movie, but GOOD good.

If your last impression of Kevin was "Cop Out" then you have to give his newest stuff a shot.

[evan2000]

Something else just crossed my mind. What if Ciro & co. had an opportunity to make a live action TMNT one day?

[kev trashcan]

Lloyd Kaufman.

that would be amazing.

[Leo656]

Nah, honestly the last one of his flicks I caught was Clerks 2. Just haven't been interested in the others yet. I'll get to 'em, I guess, just haven't had any urgency.

[Commenter 42]

David Fincher, or maybe David Fincher. It's a toss up.
I would like to see David Fincher do his take, but then again David Fincher might be a bold choice.

In the end, I'd love to see David Fincher, David Fincher, or at the very least, David Fincher.

Any of the above would be great.

[Hannurdock]

Zhang Yimou who did the movie 'Hero.'

[TigerClaw]

David Fincher, or maybe David Fincher. It's a toss up.
I would like to see David Fincher do his take, but then again David Fincher might be a bold choice.

In the end, I'd love to see David Fincher, David Fincher, or at the very least, David Fincher.

Any of the above would be great.
I dont think he ever would, He thinks Superhero movies are dull.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=107744

[bushido]

Ronny Yu. He worked in Hollywood and Hong Kong. He made action movies and martial arts movies. He is experienced and has a dynamic style.

[plastroncafe]

Whedon, because he makes fun, fast paced, genre savvy media.

Favreau, for the same reason.

Barron, because he's the one who got it the most right.

Rodriguez, because he excels at making movies that entertain the whole family.

Nieli, because he knows the source material well.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Whedon, because he makes fun, fast paced, genre savvy media.

Favreau, for the same reason.

Barron, because he's the one who got it right.

Nieli, because he knows the source material well.

All mine^, but add Russo bros (CA:TWS was excellent). And Sam Raimi (Spiderman 2 was great) to the mix.

[B-Man]

Barron, because he's the one who got it the most right.

YES. BARRON. He knocked it out the park first time around. It would've been awesome if he had two different films on his resume both called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He gave the thumbs up to the new Turtles but thought the plot "didn't feel in any way real" so it's not likely he'd be interested in directing new TMNT films with bigger more sci-fi-ish plots.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Making crap like Red State & Tusk is evidence that Kevin should have went with that whole Retirement thing.

If you want to see a selfish idiot played by Justin Long get turned into a Walrus by Michael Parks who has 20 minute monologues...and then add an annoying as hell Johnny Depp in a faker than hell French Accent playing a Canadian, where everyone in Canada says 'Aboot'...then I guess Tusk is for you. That movie sucked.


Robert Rodriguez hasn't been involved in a good film since Planet Terror. He produced Predators and that movie sucked. Sin City 2 sucked. And the Machete films sucked. No thanks on Rodriguez.

Zack Snyder screwed up big time with that terrible Man of Steel flick.

And Del Toro stank up the place with Pacific Rim which was boring as hell. The only good scene was the fight in Hong Kong (even with that stupid 'out of the blue sword' thing.

Justin Long?! The same Justin Long that voiced Alvin?!

I liked Man of Steel and Pacific Rim. The former was heavily flawed but not enough for me to hate the movie.

[kev trashcan]

Justin Long?! The same Justin Long that voiced Alvin?!

I liked Man of Steel and Pacific Rim. The former was heavily flawed but not enough for me to hate the movie.

i' didnt really like man of steel but I loved pacific rim, sure it wasnt great and was far from perfect but it was fun. superman just bores me in general

[Commenter 42]

I dont think he ever would, He thinks Superhero movies are dull.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=107744

Exactly why he should make the film. Superhero films are about good vs evil, and yes, that is boring. Good thing the turtles are not superheroes.

But, seriously, if you want a hard edged, HBO series with an adult perspective on the Turtles, Fincher is the man.

If you want a campy, schlocky, low budget, goofy film; Lloyd Kaufman is your choice. Not a judgement call, just a fact.

If you like brainless, sloppy, storytelling, with big make-up and anamatronic set pieces that distract you from the shoddy acting; go with Del Torro.

[TigerClaw]

Exactly why he should make the film. Superhero films are about good vs evil, and yes, that is boring. Good thing the turtles are not superheroes.

But, seriously, if you want a hard edged, HBO series with an adult perspective on the Turtles, Fincher is the man.

If you want a campy, schlocky, low budget, goofy film; Lloyd Kaufman is your choice. Not a judgement call, just a fact.

If you like brainless, sloppy, storytelling, with big make-up and anamatronic set pieces that distract you from the shoddy acting; go with Del Torro.
Actually, I think the TMNT are Superheroes, They fit the criteria of what makes a Superhero.

[NinjaPug]

Not going to bother creating a director wish list for TMNT as long as Platinum Dunes is still behind it. You think any decent director is going to work with those guys?

[Commenter 42]

Actually, I think the TMNT are Superheroes, They fit the criteria of what makes a Superhero.

I know you think so. This is where we disagree. It's a pedantic discussion, but an important distinction to be made as far as I'm concerned.

This is likely one of the reasons you're on side with PDTMNT, and I am not.

You think of them as super powered entities, altruistic, concerned with the safety of humanity; to me they are child soldiers, trained to kill, for revenge. They are scrupulous at best, anarchists at most.

Our ideal turtles stem from very different iterations of who the turtles are. I doubt you'd have been pleased if they'd made the movie I wanted to see.

[marcelangelo]

apart from del toro and rodriguez ( I agree they would both GET it and make it work wonderfully)
my wish would be for
a) james cameron or
b) clint eastwood
(If they were intrigued by the material..)

oh, I want to vote also for steve barron!not only is the first film just a great film but I am curious what he could pop up now with all the history the turtles have been through up to now..(I am talking about city at war, vol4 comics etc etc...

[TigerClaw]

I know you think so, but infact, you're wrong. This is where we disagree.
Superheroes can be Mutants too.

[Leo656]

I know you think so, but infact, you're wrong. This is where we disagree.

The man's blunt, but he's got a point.

I'd argue they are Heroic but not super-heroes. A subtle but important distinction.

[Commenter 42]

Superheroes can be Mutants too.

Re read my post. I hit enter before properly finishing my thought.

[marcelangelo]

Superheroes can be Mutants too.

its about what superheroes ARE actually..and what tmnt are NOT...
super heroes go out patrolling the city because they have sworn to themselves for whatever reason to PROTECT the city they are living in.so, it is a very basic dichotomy created right from that point on:
superhero=good.Evildoers=bad.

the turtles however are misscreations, brought to life(bipedal life at least) by an accident.they are outsiders, living in the shadows in the exclusion of all else.
they are merely falling into situations in which they make decisions based on what they think is fair(different than to have sworn to protect 'fair citizens'...)
I think the turtles are so much more interesting also because they seem to strive for balance, for enlightenment and matters of this nature.you know, stuff that is actually worth something...

[NinjaPug]

Yeah, the Turtles are not superheroes.

[Commenter 42]

its about what superheroes ARE actually..and what tmnt are NOT...
super heroes go out patrolling the city because they have sworn to themselves for whatever reason to PROTECT the city they are living in.so, it is a very basic dichotomy created right from that point on:
superhero=good.Evildoers=bad.

the turtles however are misscreations, brought to life(bipedal life at least) by an accident.they are outsiders, living in the shadows in the exclusion of all else.
they are merely falling into situations in which they make decisions based on what they think is fair(different than to have sworn to protect 'fair citizens'...)
I think the turtles are so much more interesting also because they seem to strive for balance, for enlightenment and matters of this nature.you know, stuff that is actually worth something...

Well said. Too me, this is one of the most important aspects of TMNT. Toss that aside, you loose the interest factor, similar to taking the philosophy out of Star Trek.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Well said. Too me, this is one of the most important aspects of TMNT. Toss that aside, you loose the interest factor, similar to taking the philosophy out of Star Trek.

very much agreed...them not having the Super attached is what..to me...made them stand out all these years

[TigerClaw]

Two of them became a Superheroes of sorts, If I recall Mikey for a while became Turtle Titan, and I believe Raph went around as the Nightwatcher, That seems superhero esqued enough for me. :)

[Commenter 42]

apart from del toro and rodriguez ( I agree they would both GET it and make it work wonderfully)
my wish would be for
a) james cameron or
b) clint eastwood
(If they were intrigued by the material..)

oh, I want to vote also for steve barron!not only is the first film just a great film but I am curious what he could pop up now with all the history the turtles have been through up to now..(I am talking about city at war, vol4 comics etc etc...

Hunh. I disagree with Del Torro or Rodrigueze (spy kids turtles? No.)

I like the other choices. Eastwood could be a wild choice. He's made some great films, and some less so.

I don't care what anyone says, Cameron makes fantastic fantasy films. He'd never do it, but if he did, you can bet he'd get them looking real.

Two of them became a Superheroes of sorts, If I recall Mikey for a while became Turtle Titan, and I believe Raph went around as the Nightwatcher, That seems superhero esqued enough for me. :)

Yeah, but you see what you did there? You had to find a specific story line where they were turned into superheroes. Ergo, they were not superheroes from the beginning.

[Leo656]

Two of them became a Superheroes of sorts, If I recall Mikey for a while became Turtle Titan, and I believe Raph went around as the Nightwatcher, That seems superhero esqued enough for me. :)

You're, uh, aware that cartoons dumb everything down for the lowest common denominator, right? Specifically some kid who's got his finger up his nose the whole time he's watching, and ONLY understands concepts like "Super Good" versus "Super Evil"?

Of course the cartoons are gonna present things in the simplest terms possible. That doesn't go for All TMNT media. Just sayin'.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

the TMNT have also faced many villains from normal to super human to other worldly,imortal,extra terrestrial, super being, mythical, the list goes one and have always relied on the skills they have to handle them not super powers


sure the ooze made them little above average but this batman not Superman

[BubblyShell22]

Alfonso Cuaron (Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban, Gravity).

Michael Bay (Transformers).

Alfonso Cuaron f*cked up the third HP movie. No way I want him to direct TMNT.

[Shark_Blade]

How exactly did he "ruined" it?

PoA is the best HP movie imo. Btw what's your fave HP movie then?

I wouldn't mind a Tim Burton TMNT. Live action of course, not stop motion.

Can you imagine what sort of mutants he will produce?I don't mind a musical tmnt movie if that's the case. :tlol:

[B-Man]

I wouldn't mind a Tim Burton TMNT. Live action of course, not stop motion.

I want him & Michael Keaton to reunite and do The Dark Knight Returns but in my mind a Tim Burton TMNT would just wind up like his Planet Of The Apes.

[Leo656]

I think we've all had enough of The Dark Knight Returns, thank you very much.

Single most overrated Batman story ever made. Although, Tim Burton is the single most overrated filmmaker in the history of the universe, so maybe that would fit like a glove.

Seriously. If we HAVE to lick Frank Miller's nuts, then at least lick 'em over Year One, which was actually good.

Going solely by DKR, it's amazing Batman has any time to think since he's constantly goddamn talking to himself. In the most overblown, pompous, self-aggrandizing manner possible. You half expect him to say, with complete earnestness, some stupid sh*t like... "I drink of their fear... and it is delicious. I paint a masterpiece with their blood as a child would with finger paints. Their bones breaking is my symphony, their screams, their Terror, my Magnum Opus. And when my War is over, and I again retreat to the darkness... The Cave... I am at peace... for I know the time will soon be at hand... for me to finally void my bowels in peace... for the 7-11 rest room at 3am is no place for a Creature of the Night to defecate. The war continues, but this time... it is between my strength of will, and that burrito I had at 7:30. I AM THE NIGHT!!!"

Seriously. Corniest sh*t EVER.

[Davetello]

What's wrong with talking to yourself? I do it. Oh wait...I guess that confirms everything that's wrong with talking to oneself.

Carry on.

[Leo656]

Do you do it LIKE THAT?! :lol:

Seriously, the entire book is that self-aggrandizing bullsh*t. Like, "As soon as I'm done with The Joker, and I get Superman off my ass, I'm just gonna go ahead and Punch God In The Face, because I'M BATMAN."

Seriously, I LOVE Batman. That book makes me hate the motherf***er.

[B-Man]

Christ, we're sh*tting on TDKR now??? :lol: nah, that thing is awesome. Made for a sweet 2 & a half hour animated movie too. A live-action one seems inevitable somewhere down the line (that's if BvS isn't too much like it).

(I do agree Batman's kind of a prick in it, though)

[Davetello]

I borrowed a copy of the book from the library in summer '12. I enjoyed it, but there was a LOT of text. I don't mind that really, but I only want to be reading THAT much text in a book, not a comic book or graphic novel.

It's a shame that Frank Miller wrote that and some of Daredevil. I really hate to praise the man. Sin City was good as well but pretty overrated.

[Leo656]

Anybody who can't see how overblown and frankly Bad that book is, is seriously kidding themselves. It's All Hype. I never DIDN'T sh*t on it. It's average at best. What makes it Terrible, is that people swear it's the Best Batman Story Ever when it's SO not even close. I could give you a half dozen O'Neil/Adams Batman stories that make it look like the crudely drawn, over-blown, needlessly drawn-out trash it really is. The entire thing insists upon itself and its own brilliance. It's SO masturbatory. I don't know why more people can't see that.

Year One was better. Mostly because the story gets to the goddamn point and doesn't jack itself off over how "bad-ass" it is. I never read his Daredevil work but I heard that was good. But I've read a lot of his other stuff. He's... he's Not Good.

I think Frank Miller's entire body of work speaks for itself at this point. One or two pieces of work aside, he's an idiot, and a hack, and just because he ushered in the "Grim N Gritty" 80s doesn't mean he's actually good at Anything At All. His stuff just sucks. I mean, some of Sin City was pretty good. Even THAT is a ton better than DKR. And there are a ton of writers/artists who can do his exact same gimmick a ton better than he can.

[kev trashcan]

what about a terry Gilliam ninja turtles movie? that would be interesting.

[Davetello]

Hmm, I quite enjoyed it. But I had heard it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, so perhaps that caused a bias towards it after I read it i.e. perhaps I couldn't admit it wasn't as good as the hype suggested.

The Killing Joke, Arkham Asylum and The Long Halloween are probably my fave Batman graphic novels, right now. I really like Gotham by Gaslight and I, Joker as well.

Alan Moore is far better than Frankie. But he's mental as well - you ever seen the Mindscape of Alan Moore? Guy's eloquent but insane.

[Davetello]

what about a terry Gilliam ninja turtles movie? that would be interesting.

This is now a Batman thread. Reported for going off-topic.

Just messing mate. I don't know that guy but he can't be any worse than the last ones.

[Brooke507]

Joss Whedon. I'm sure he could make a high quality tmnt movie, he had some great action in Firefly so I'm sure he could put good action towards the turtles too.

[Leo656]

See, Killing Joke has about as much story/text as a K-Mart brochure and it's STILL a much better and more entertaining Batman story than DKR.

I was kinda the same, in a way. My whole life, hearing "DKR is Tha Best Evar dawg!" Finally read it when I was like, 10, and I honestly thought it was crap. Read it again, and I hated it less, but I grew up reading stuff by O'Neil, Dixon, Adams, Aparo... you know, stuff that was Good. I was totally spoiled. The only impression that book made on me, is that it really doesn't earn its reputation. It does a decent job creating an atmosphere. That's It.

I've read it a hundred times and I still do read it; it's not Nuclear Garbage, it's fun to read sometimes, but it's Not That Great. The SEQUEL is Nuclear Garbage, but that's another story.

[Commenter 42]

what about a terry Gilliam ninja turtles movie? that would be interesting.

Gilliam is hit and miss. Some great, some utter disasters. Again, a trippy far-out directorial choice, that prefers surreal to grounded.

He's a bit like Tim Burton by way of Joel Schumacher, with a pinch of social commentary.

[Davetello]

I know what you mean. Sometimes people do like something just because it's critically acclaimed. I'm not saying that happens with THDK but that sort of thing does go on.

[Leo656]

FACT: Most people who swear DKR is a "masterpiece" have only read about 5 comics.

[Davetello]

Yeah, possibly. Like I say I think it was pretty good but certainly no masterpiece. I started reading comics properly circa 2006. I am obviously nowhere near many people in terms of knowledge of the medium, but I know a fair amount.

[B-Man]

You know if you saw online tomorrow 'Tim Burton To Direct The Dark Knight Returns For Warner Bros, Michael Keaton To Star', you'd be excited (which was my point to begin with, not the merits of the book lol)

[Davetello]

You know if you saw online tomorrow 'Tim Burton To Direct The Dark Knight Returns For Warner Bros, Michael Keaton To Star', you'd be excited (which was my point to begin with, not the merits of the book lol)

Don't try and back out now. I demand a 3000 word critique of TDKR graphic novel in my inbox by tomorrow night or I swear you'll be fvcking sorry :lol:

[B-Man]

Don't try and back out now. I demand a 3000 word critique of TDKR graphic novel in my inbox by tomorrow night or I swear you'll be fvcking sorry :lol:

:lol: for the record I like Year One better but I feel like we've seen the movie of that already with Begins.

(also sorry for derailing the thread guys)

[Davetello]

Yeah, I probably prefer Year One as well. Btw, there's a Year One animated films too.

You should read some of the novels I mention above, if you haven't yet. Should also read Court of Owls and Death in the Family.

[Leo656]

You know absolutely nothing about me, sir, so I'll excuse your blasphemous assumption. :)

I'd actually assume it was going to be sh*t and wait to be proven wrong. I haven't swung from Tim Burton's nuts since I was 11 years old. He has made exactly Four Movies that I thoroughly enjoyed:

- Batman
- Batman Returns (and even that movie has a TON of sh*t wrong with it; it's easily his worst "Good" movie)
- Beetlejuice
- Pee-Wee's Big Adventure

He has Made One Other movie I Mostly Enjoy:

- The Nightmare Before Christmas (It's a fun little movie, but wholly undeserving of the Cult that has built up around it over the years. Nothing "wrong" with it, but I HATE to see things become consistently overrated)

I've mostly hated everything else he has ever done. If I see one more black and white striped spiral pattern in my entire lifetime I'm going to vomit.

You've been here a fair amount of time now, so I'm genuinely curious where you attained the evidence for your assumption I'd be excited about that kind of announcement. C'mon, bro, you pay attention. Do I act AT ALL like a sheep? :lol: "F*** Tim Burton" has been my official position on that guy ever since I read his god-awul Superman ideas. That guy's INSANE. It used to be cute, now it's just annoying. Everything he does is pretentious bullsh*t. Him and Miller WOULD make a great pair, for all the wrong reasons, but I wouldn't want to see it. Unless it was the kind of circumstance where they were both sealed in a capsule and rocketed into space or something. Had more than enough of both of 'em.

Another Keaton/Burton Bat flick would be interesting but only if it was the loosest damn interpretation of that book you ever saw. And that probably would be the case, since his Batman movies had next to nothing to do with Batman in the first place.

No need to apologize, we're having fun. :) People can disagree and still be pals and mess around.

[B-Man]

Yes dude I know you're not a sheep, I see your contrary takes on nearly everything's that's popular in mainstream entertainment & enjoy reading them lol But f*ck, I'd kill to see Keaton be Batman again. He was such a pimp in the role. Growing up loving Burton's duel Batman movies, seeing them reunite for TDKR would be a dream (Keaton even said recently he'd be down if Burton was). I'm curious though, what would be your dream Batman flick?
And yeah Davetello, I own all the mentioned books except 'Gotham by Gaslight'. Didn't you reckon the Year One animated movie was kinda.... flat? An exciting book/unexciting cartoon. Not even Cranston saved it.

[Davetello]

I love Keaton, he's magic. Read GbG, you'll love it.

Btw, I feel like we're having some really manly male bonding here, so you can drop the 'tello' and just call me Dave :)

Just seen your edit: I've only see Year One once, & it was in 2011, so my mind is a bit hazy. I remember enjoying it but I'd have to see it again to answer properly.

[Commenter 42]

If I see one more black and white striped spiral pattern in my entire lifetime I'm going to vomit.


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I feel this way about the usual suspect of directors brought up. So many people are so surface when they talk about what they like /dislike. They assume the director is at the heart of everything they loved in a film, or the sole individual responsible for it's demise.

It's costume designers, art directors, cinematographers etc...

But Burton? Burton loves jailhouse swag, and his wife, and Johnny Depp. Auteur to the enth degree, colorblind and idiosyncratic to a fault.

It's cool if that's someones thing, but damn son, Helena Bohnam Carter is not the ideal casting for every bloody female character ever, nor is Depp the perfect Everyman, any more than Adam Sandler is funny.

Seriously. Fan casting makes my teeth ache. Copy pasta to the infinite.
Reductive, impoverished ideas, wrapped in a wank for the last movie they liked.

A heartfelt guttural blargh to it all.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

though if burton directed we'd get his wife as April and Depp as either one of the turtles...or 90's stockman or jones or someone

[Commenter 42]

though if burton directed we'd get his wife as April and Depp as either one of the turtles...or 90's stockman or jones or someone

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[B-Man]

I love Keaton, he's magic. Read GbG, you'll love it.

Btw, I feel like we're having some really manly male bonding here, so you can drop the 'tello' and just call me Dave :)

Sweet, Dave, call me Ben (Predator hand-shake :lol:).

Commenter 42, we all love Fincher (hell, I watched Gone Girl for the 3rd time last night, it's better every time) and would love a Fincher TMNT but he's the least realistic fan casting on this thread. It would never, ever, ever happen.
(that's my all-time favourite Office moment btw haha).

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

http://www.sheawong.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/The-office-NOOOOOOOOO-gif.gif

m sorry...i take it back i promise i wasnt being serious....do you need a hug? if i stroke you mustache will you feel better?

[Leonardo87]

Steve Barron.

[Commenter 42]

Sweet, Dave, call me Ben (Predator hand-shake :lol:).

Commenter 42, we all love Fincher (hell, I watched Gone Girl for the 3rd time last night, it's better every time) and would love a Fincher TMNT but he's the least realistic fan casting on this thread. It would never, ever, ever happen.
(that's my all-time favourite Office moment btw haha).

I know it will never happen, but stylistically, toneally, from every angle I can fathom, he would be "the guy" my top pick.

TMNT would suddenly be taken seriously. It would do for TMNT what Burton did for Batman.

Not everyone's cup of tea - I get that, but we've had numerous schlocky, wack, low budget, and riddiculous takes. It's time to bring the serious.

Similar to the tonal shift in Turtles Forever. When the Original Turtles show up, the authenticity is palpable.

I want, personally, a live action, return to source.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Anybody who can't see how overblown and frankly Bad that book is, is seriously kidding themselves. It's All Hype. I never DIDN'T sh*t on it. It's average at best. What makes it Terrible, is that people swear it's the Best Batman Story Ever when it's SO not even close. I could give you a half dozen O'Neil/Adams Batman stories that make it look like the crudely drawn, over-blown, needlessly drawn-out trash it really is. The entire thing insists upon itself and its own brilliance. It's SO masturbatory. I don't know why more people can't see that.

Year One was better. Mostly because the story gets to the goddamn point and doesn't jack itself off over how "bad-ass" it is. I never read his Daredevil work but I heard that was good. But I've read a lot of his other stuff. He's... he's Not Good.

I think Frank Miller's entire body of work speaks for itself at this point. One or two pieces of work aside, he's an idiot, and a hack, and just because he ushered in the "Grim N Gritty" 80s doesn't mean he's actually good at Anything At All. His stuff just sucks. I mean, some of Sin City was pretty good. Even THAT is a ton better than DKR. And there are a ton of writers/artists who can do his exact same gimmick a ton better than he can.

From what I've heard, the two-part animated adaptions of TDKR is said to be better than the books because their is less monologuing.

[B-Man]

I don't know about better but the exclusion of monologues certainly makes it feel less pretentious (many have argued it dumbs it down but whatever). It's a fun animated action flick worth checking out that can be watched in two parts or as one big one, up to you.

[kev trashcan]

Anybody who can't see how overblown and frankly Bad that book is, is seriously kidding themselves. It's All Hype. I never DIDN'T sh*t on it. It's average at best. What makes it Terrible, is that people swear it's the Best Batman Story Ever when it's SO not even close. I could give you a half dozen O'Neil/Adams Batman stories that make it look like the crudely drawn, over-blown, needlessly drawn-out trash it really is. The entire thing insists upon itself and its own brilliance. It's SO masturbatory. I don't know why more people can't see that.

Year One was better. Mostly because the story gets to the goddamn point and doesn't jack itself off over how "bad-ass" it is. I never read his Daredevil work but I heard that was good. But I've read a lot of his other stuff. He's... he's Not Good.

I think Frank Miller's entire body of work speaks for itself at this point. One or two pieces of work aside, he's an idiot, and a hack, and just because he ushered in the "Grim N Gritty" 80s doesn't mean he's actually good at Anything At All. His stuff just sucks. I mean, some of Sin City was pretty good. Even THAT is a ton better than DKR. And there are a ton of writers/artists who can do his exact same gimmick a ton better than he can.

I enjoy TDKR, But I'm gonna have to agree with you as Far as there being way better Batman story's and it being over rated. It did help get Batman away from the goofy tone so that counts for something, And I think Frank miller is extremely over rated too.

This is now a Batman thread. Reported for going off-topic.

Just messing mate. I don't know that guy but he can't be any worse than the last ones.

hahaha. terry gilliam directed Brazil, 12 monkeys, Fear and loathing in las vegas, tideland, the imaginarium of dr. parnarious, time bandits,

Joss Whedon. I'm sure he could make a high quality tmnt movie, he had some great action in Firefly so I'm sure he could put good action towards the turtles too.

that would be awesome. even better if joss whedon wrote it and re teamed with jean-pierre jeunet as director.

[plastroncafe]

Gilliam's also known for having done the animation for "Monty Python's Flying Circus."

There was a point when he was supposed to direct a big screen version of Gaimen and Pratchett's "Good Omens" but...because his stuff is so hit or miss regardless of the stellar quality of his work, he couldn't find a distributor and so it never got made.

Alas.

Batman is such an overrated Mary Sue of a character that I just...I'll just be over here with my Original Animated Series dvds.

Would Gilliam make a good turtle movie?
Oh man...he'd make a KICK ASS "Dale Evans McGuillicutty" movie. I...seriously kind of want that now. Badly.

I'd love to see Cuaron do the "Soul's Winter" story arc.

Okay...new meme:

The TMNT is going to be a miniseries on HBO.
Who does which story arc. All universes acceptable.

GO!

I want Peter Jackson to do the Renet/TimeCube issues, because that man knows how to blend fantasy and live action really damn well.

[Luckyday]

^You think Gullermo del Toro would make a decent Souls' Winter?:D

[kev trashcan]

if its an hbo mini series i' want it to be guillermo del toro or alex proyas doing an original story arc based on or influenced by the mouser story. never leaving the sewer. add an urban fantasy myth vibe to it, include casey jones already established with the turtles, definitely put leatherhead in there maybe even have baxter turn into the fly at the end. but yeah it would center around the search for splinter threw out the sewers because of a mouser attack. the rat king could easily be involved in this also.

[pennydreadful]

Going solely by DKR, it's amazing Batman has any time to think since he's constantly goddamn talking to himself. In the most overblown, pompous, self-aggrandizing manner possible. You half expect him to say, with complete earnestness, some stupid sh*t like... "I drink of their fear... and it is delicious. I paint a masterpiece with their blood as a child would with finger paints. Their bones breaking is my symphony, their screams, their Terror, my Magnum Opus. And when my War is over, and I again retreat to the darkness... The Cave... I am at peace... for I know the time will soon be at hand... for me to finally void my bowels in peace... for the 7-11 rest room at 3am is no place for a Creature of the Night to defecate. The war continues, but this time... it is between my strength of will, and that burrito I had at 7:30. I AM THE NIGHT!!!"

I think this is my favorite thing that you've ever posted. :lol::lol::lol:

I haven't swung from Tim Burton's nuts since I was 11 years old. He has made exactly Four Movies that I thoroughly enjoyed:

- Batman
- Batman Returns (and even that movie has a TON of sh*t wrong with it; it's easily his worst "Good" movie)
- Beetlejuice
- Pee-Wee's Big Adventure


Young man, if you utter one word against Edward Scissorhands, there's gonna be a catfight up in this motherf*cker. I warn you - I'm a hair-puller. :P

[neatoman]

Quentin Tarantino seems like a good idea to me.

[BubblyShell22]

How exactly did he "ruined" it?

PoA is the best HP movie imo. Btw what's your fave HP movie then?

I don't mind a musical tmnt movie if that's the case. :tlol:

I just didn't like it. I hated that they never mentioned that Lupin, Peter, Sirius, and James were the Marauders and created The Marauder's Map. That was one of the biggest things that bugged me.

Fave HP movie is a hard one to choose, but I did like Order of the Phoenix a lot. Deathly Hallows part 2 would have been awesome if they would have put in the speech Harry gives to Voldemort about how his plan utterly failed, but they shelved that and had Harry jump off some tower with Voldemort saying, "Let's finish this the way we started it, Tom, together!" I laugh every time I hear that line because it sounds so damn cheesy. Sure, the movie was fine, but I think having that part with Harry's speech would have been better.

And to get back on topic for directors, definitely David Yates. I'd love to see Ciro involved in some way as well since he's been doing such a fantastic job with the Nick series.

[Leo656]

I think this is my favorite thing that you've ever posted. :lol::lol::lol:

Young man, if you utter one word against Edward Scissorhands, there's gonna be a catfight up in this motherf*cker. I warn you - I'm a hair-puller. :P

Ohhh yeeeeeah, okay, throw that one in next to "Nightmare" in the "It's good but doesn't deserve 'The Cult'" category.

I do like that one but I've only seen it a couple times and I forgot about it because I generally want Depp to get hit by a bus.

Plus, blonde Winona Ryder? EWWWWWW!