People talk about characters which have been created & have gained iconic status, but

[Davetello]

...what about those characters who could have been created but never were? I am posting this in the general turtles section, but this topic applies to any media. Take for instance Marvel and DC - everyone is grateful to the likes of Bob Kane, Bill Finger, Jack Kirby & Steve Ditko that for creating the likes of Batman and Spider-Man, but what sort of characters could have been created but never were? What if someone had created another character who became an A list superhero, either alongside those others or in place of them?

This thread has two component parts. The first is to open a general discussion on how our favourite media properties would be different if certain characters had never been created or - more pertinently for this topic - if hypothetical others had come into existence. The second part takes this further and asks you to present ideas - if you wish - about what sort of characters would really add to the TMNT franchise. Perhaps you think the TMNT would be better if a completely different turtle with a different name, personality, weapon had been created rather than your least fave turtle. Perhaps you think you have a better villain than Shredder & with a superior origin story. This is your chance to explain why.

Looking for some good replies.

[Luckyday]

I think what this series has been lacking for the longest is an animal mutant version of magneto and by that I mean someone with an anti human stance.
The turtles themselves are faced the fact they might never accepted by humans so story wise it make so much sense to have a villain to tempt them to join the dark side.

I know we have Old Hob for that but I wondering why it took so long to get there.

Maybe what I like to see is the turtles acting like a liaison between the human world and natural animal world. They're not really half humans but that is what they feel like most of the time when being caught between two worlds.

Another thing, is that I would really want to see what a Greg Morrison's version of TMNT would like. He has a tendency to take everything that was part of a franchise and make it as part their canon timeline no matter how weird or bizarre it was.

[tmntfannumerouno]

Even though it was towards the end of the series H.A.V.O.C. was anti-human. Also if I remember correctly even prior to H.A.V.O.C. in the OT Raph always was a little anti-human.

[Luckyday]

I wasn't aware of that but they should really bring that back then if was part of OT.

Hell, put Shredder and Kraang on hold and focus the entire season with a war between EPF and H.A.V.O.C. with the turtles being caught in the middle.

Tell me that you wouldn't pay to see that happen with the Nick cartoon.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

If old Hob were elevated in villain status, I think he'd fill that role quite nicely. His hatred of humanity and all.

[Davetello]

If old Hob were elevated in villain status, I think he'd fill that role quite nicely. His hatred of humanity and all.

Agree. He should be assimilated into other iterations.