Future TMNT Movie stories,characters in sequels + actors & actresses who'll play them

[ninja-zero]

Doesn't anyone wish TMNT had more sequels?

In the second movie:
- Casey Jones
- Bebop & Rocksteady
- Kraang

In the third movie:
- Baxter Stockman
- Rahzar
- Slash

And I wish Shredder would reveal his face behind the armor.

[Coola Yagami]

At this point we should probably stop making new movie topics. They're just gonna end up being locked anyways.

[The Stryker]

At this point we should probably stop making new movie topics. They're just gonna end up being locked anyways.

:roll:

I don't know if I'd want to see Rahzar in a future movie. Slash is even kinda up in the air for me.

I'd like to see Terry Crews and Ron Perlman as Bebop and Rocksteady though. That'd be pretty great.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd like to see Terry Crews and Ron Perlman as Bebop and Rocksteady though. That'd be pretty great.

That would have been a great idea.

[Leo656]

:roll:


Coola ain't wrong, though. It's pretty obvious nobody is supposed to be posting in this section at the moment and that threads are only staying open until a Mod notices, at which point they're locked.

Even stuff that is only one or two posts and zero arguing or dissent is getting locked. He was stating a fact: All threads in this section ARE going to be locked on principle until the Mods say otherwise.

No reason to give him the ol' "eye roll" for stating a fact. He's correct.

[B-Man]

Why is the movie section locked again?

[pennydreadful]

Because the mods are sick of the constant fighting with the same people over the same stupid stuff, having to constantly break up fights and delete pages upon pages of comments with personal attacks/name-calling/general histrionics, etc.

[B-Man]

That's not gonna fix anything though. Mods should just send a message/warning to those few who they find culpable or who are always in the middle of fights (doesn't take a detective), tell them to stop getting so wound up and/or be more accepting of other peoples opinions. Boom. Done. Closing off the section is just a temporary fix.

[Leo656]

People who have been here all of five minutes and do nothing but stir things up always cry "playing favorites" whenever they're scolded, because the Powers That Be naturally lean towards people who have been here a long time whenever disagreements come up. So, everyone gets "punished" because in reality nobody can be punished without causing more caterwauling.

And we should probably start drifting the talk back towards other things. Even though I guess it's pointless; even this one's only still open because the staff have real jobs.

[Davetello]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to 'lean towards people who've been here a long time', though. That's forum hierarchy and exists on many fora, not just this one. It's not a good thing & it's a big problem with forums in general. What does post count or length of time posting have to do with anything? In fact, post counts should probably be abolished from forums as they serve no positive purpose, only negative.

Personally speaking, I'm getting into that 'regular poster' level. I hate to think that someone will favour me over a newbie in an argument even when I'm wrong and they're right. That just sucks.

[B-Man]

Exactly, Dave. I couldn't give a damn if someones been here 5 years or 5 minutes. I judge people here by how they correspond with others. I've-been-here-for-years-therefore-I-can-talk-down-to-everyone :lol: No.

[Leo656]

I disagree, the "hierarchy" is a GREAT thing. This place isn't the most active board around, but the quality of discussion is pretty high most times, regardless. A lot of that comes from the fact that most people have been here a while and have established some kind of rapport with the other people here. Some folks are genuinely "friends", or at least could give each other a good-natured razzing without worrying it was going to get taken out of context. Meanwhile, every time there's a new cartoon or movie, the place gets flooded with a ton of "OMG Cowabunga dudez! I remember TMNT I used to love Mickey the best PIZZA TIME DUDE!" and inane stuff like that. Nobody needs that, and luckily it dies off pretty quick, but sometimes they need a little "push" out the door, or at least a push to stop acting like little kids if they want to stick around. Otherwise they're just irritating the hell out of people.

This place has been really elitist for as long as I can remember, and I'm not going to say it's a bad thing, because frankly I don't believe it is. Quite the opposite; every time there's a flood of "new" members, the Forum IQ drops 80 points, until the most thin-skinned people inevitably pull the "YOU GUYS ARE SO MEAN!" card and disappear. The ones who can hang, mostly adapt and evolve into Respected Posters. Sure, there's still dissension, but that's anywhere. Some people just don't like each other. But it's usually for more personal reasons other than, "He Didn't Like The Movie", which is what most of the "fights" involving Newer People this year have been about.

Frankly, I know it's "elitist" and all that, but I think a person needs more than a Hot Topic TMNT shirt to be "Drome Worthy". This place wouldn't be as fun, or the discussions so entertaining, if it was overly "nice" or people didn't have to "earn" respect. Beyond that, there's Every Good Reason why a Mod or Admin would give the benefit of the doubt to someone who's "established" over some "rookie". For one thing, there's a long-standing record of behavior, established precedent, things like that. In the event of a conflict, they can look back and say, "Wow, you know, he's really way out of line today, but it's a rare occurrence, and besides, look how this Other Guy is blatantly pushing for a scrap." Meanwhile, someone who's only been here a few minutes doesn't have anywhere near as much slack. And that's Totally Fair, as they haven't Earned any.

That's true of any social "gathering", by the way, not just message boards. You can put your feet on the table and make a little ruckus if you're friends with the guy who owns the house, not if it's your first visit and you just walked in the door. Make sense?

[pennydreadful]

That's not gonna fix anything though. Mods should just send a message/warning to those few who they find culpable or who are always in the middle of fights (doesn't take a detective), tell them to stop getting so wound up and/or be more accepting of other peoples opinions. Boom. Done. Closing off the section is just a temporary fix.

They've done that before: public and warnings, temp bans, sectional bans, ad nauseum. I'm posting here (because, well, I'm bored) but really, I don't care if the movie sections are locked up. If people can't manage to not act like dickheads in the movie section, then we don't deserve to have a movie section - it's not something that people here are owed and the mods shouldn't have to babysit and break sh*t up constantly. The moderation on the 'drome is extremely relaxed as it is - people get away with a lot here. It's not like TPTB are asking for much - just that people don't carry on like utter spanners over a freaking movie.

[Leo656]

If nothing else, maybe separating the movie forums into "classic" and "modern" sections would help. Probably not, as both sections would be invaded by people saying "Old/New TMNT sucks, New/Old TMNT is so much better", but hey, never let it be said that I don't try and come up with solutions.

It's just usually a lot easier to swear at people until they go away. But SOMEtimes I offer solutions.

[Davetello]

B-Man - yep. That's the way to think. After five posts I liked you more than people who have been here since the dinosaurs were alive. What relevance has length of time posting to anything? It simply drives away new users and makes forums less heterogeneous and poorer as a result.

Leo - I have to disagree. Some of the worst posters on this site - in my estimation - are the long-term posters, and some of the best are those who have been posting for fewer than two years. What you describe is forum dynamics - that's completely different to quality of poster. Yes, past relationships mean that the site has some sort of foundation for debate but that doesn't actually have anything to do with quality of posting.

I was a long-term poster on a previous site and I used to give me 'mates' sh!t for being cvntish to the new posters. At the risk of being judgemental 'forum cliques' are the most pathetic thing on the internet. I've NEVER understood them. I mean would you be a cvnt to someone who wanted to join your circle of friends offline?

[B-Man]

Leo, I don't know if your alpha-male mentality comes from being a wrestler, but it's ridiculous in context of a message board & is the exact bullsh*t that causes arguments and boards to be closed down.

Be rude to everyone new & if they can't handle it, they don't deserve to be here.

I was gonna point out the absurdity of your post, but it's so blatant there's no need to. I say treat everyone how you'd like to be treated. Call me old-fashioned.

[Coola Yagami]

If nothing else, maybe separating the movie forums into "classic" and "modern" sections would help. Probably not, as both sections would be invaded by people saying "Old/New TMNT sucks, New/Old TMNT is so much better", but hey, never let it be said that I don't try and come up with solutions.

It's just usually a lot easier to swear at people until they go away. But SOMEtimes I offer solutions.

That's actually a good idea. Especially if they want to turn this into a franchise and make a PD TMNT Trilogy. Givin then their own section would solve things and also add some kind of 'if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen' kinda warning on it.

[Davetello]

That's true of any social "gathering", by the way, not just message boards. You can put your feet on the table and make a little ruckus if you're friends with the guy who owns the house, not if it's your first visit and you just walked in the door. Make sense?

None whatsoever, which is rare for you. I have no problem telling people here they're pricks, regardless of how long they've been posting. I also have no problem explaining when a moderator makes a mistake. The best moderators take and accept criticism - they don't think they're above it simply because they're in a position of power (not referring to this site's mods btw, who are MOSTLY okay, but mods generally on forums). You're coming across as someone who feels subordinate to authority.

Leo, I don't know if your alpha-male mentality comes from being a wrestler, but it's ridiculous in context of a message board & is the exact bullsh*t that causes arguments and boards to be closed down.

Be rude to everyone new & if they can't handle it, they don't deserve to be here.

I was gonna point out the absurdity of your post, but it's so blatant there's no need to. I say treat everyone how you'd like to be treated. Call me old-fashioned.

Actually his posts are beta. Alphas wouldn't bow to 'long-term posters' or 'authority'.

Also, wrestlers aren't facially attractive. Most of them are ugly and insecure which accounts for the desperate need to work out and sculpt huge but unattractive bodies. A classic example of this sort of insecurity is Batista - ugly face, so works out and ends up being monstrously, disgustingly muscular. They also have low money/status in the grand scheme of things, despite being pretty famous. There are some anomalies, like Randy Orton. Now that guy has his body just right and his face is pretty good looking. Shame about the tribal tatts but nobody's perfect.

If pro wrestlers do think they're alpha, then someone needs to bring them down a peg or 8. The way a wrestler looks isn't typically the look most women like. Even Shawn Michaels - major hunk in the wrestling world. But even when I show prime HBK photos to women who care nothing for wrestling (and hence don't have a bias towards wrestler status), they think he looks ****ing ridiculous.

The fact of the matter is that the major hunks of the wrestling world - HBK, Cena - don't get the universal female admiration that many soccer players do, or that Johnny Depp does. It's a niche industry and you can't be alpha when your appeal is niche.

In reference to my character assassination on wrestlers, John Cena is a fantastic example. I think Cena's good looking, but almost every time I've shown a photo of him to a female who doesn't know who he is and who think wrestling is garbage they're like "ewww, he's fugly. What's wrong with his blockhead?"

Yet female wrestling fans think he's the hottest person in the WWE. STATUS & REPUTATION...is what counts in attraction and alpha status.

[TrickOrTreater]

Actually his posts are beta. Alphas wouldn't bow to 'long-term posters' or 'authority'.

Also, wrestlers aren't facially attractive. Most of them are ugly and insecure which accounts for the desperate need to work out and sculpt huge but unattractive bodies. A classic example of this sort of insecurity is Batista - ugly face, so works out and ends up being monstrously, disgustingly muscular. They also have low money/status in the grand scheme of things, despite being pretty famous. There are some anomalies, like Randy Orton. Now that guy has his body just right and his face is pretty good looking. Shame about the tribal tatts but nobody's perfect.

If pro wrestlers do think they're alpha, then someone needs to bring them down a peg or 8. The way a wrestler looks isn't typically the look most women like. Even Shawn Michaels - major hunk in the wrestling world. But even when I show prime HBK photos to women who care nothing for wrestling (and hence don't have a bias towards wrestler status), they think he looks ****ing ridiculous.

The fact of the matter is that the major hunks of the wrestling world - HBK, Cena - don't get the universal female admiration that many soccer players do, or that Johnny Depp does. It's a niche industry and you can't be alpha when your appeal is niche.

In reference to my character assassination on wrestlers, John Cena is a fantastic example. I think Cena's good looking, but almost every time I've shown a photo of him to a female who doesn't know who he is and who think wrestling is garbage they're like "ewww, he's fugly. What's wrong with his blockhead?"

Yet female wrestling fans think he's the hottest person in the WWE. STATUS & REPUTATION...is what counts in attraction and alpha status.

what the f*ck

[The Stryker]

Whoa that came out of nowhere.

Hold up. You surveyed women on if a wrestler is attractive?

[Leo656]

Dave: You're funny. I like that. You're allowed to stay. :lol:

Actually I care less about any type of "authority" I've just been here long enough to see how things work. And you're right, without naming names (I know exactly who you mean though Dave) some of the "vets" here are insufferable because they act like they own the place but they're not really who I'm talking about, because I don't think too many people bother taking them seriously anyways. And they mostly stay in their preferred sections anyways, so they're really less the issue. At least they're not at all the reason the Movie Section is in such disrepair. They virtually never post in it. So we'll remove them from the conversation, in the interest of not making things overly-complicated.

It's less about "clique behavior" and more about, there's a "Mood" in social gatherings, and it can be a bitch to maintain, but its worth it if it makes the place better and more colorful in the long run. Like, just for example, I can give Zarius a ton of sh*t about the movies he likes, and he can give me sh*t back, even if one of us says something that, to a casual observer was "way outta line", and it's all in good fun because I've known the guy for however long and he knows how to "read" my posts and vice-versa. Now, I take that same exact approach to someone who hasn't quite "caught the vibe" of this place yet, I give them the same kind of ribbing, there's 50/50 chance they're gonna take it personally and get all cranky about it. That's just the way it is, it takes time for people to both establish themselves and build rapport with other people. But anyone who's first reaction to a poke is to get all personally offended doesn't belong here, and thankfully, they usually don't stay. Me? I treat everyone the same. If I can be friends with someone like pennydreadful, even though I routinely refer to females as "spunk dumpsters" and the like, then I don't think anyone should take it too personally if I hate their favorite movie. You'd *think* they'd be mature enough to get over it, right?

Like it or not, it's a HUGE reason why the newer people this year have been getting into so many arguments with the "vets". Everyone here more or less "knows" each other. I swear, I have seen WAY worse debates over the years than the stuff going on about this movie, and nothing ever got this bad. So, you isolate the variable: The Newer Members. If almost 15 years pass, and people can debate and discuss and even argue and occasionally people get into fights so bad that some people are literally telling other people to kill themselves, and it never goes past a light Mod scolding, AND YET, every single day since this movie was advertised, there have been fights, name-calling, threads have been locked... What does that say? It says that the entire problem isn't the people who have Been Here and know how to deal with each other, and that they don't water things down for anyone else, it's that Other People haven't adapted, aren't interested, and just want everyone to kiss their ass (or, more specifically, kiss their movie of choice's ass).

Anyone who's been here a good while will tell you that's the only real problem. Literally a very small handful of people who came in back in Spring or thereabouts, and expected that the "environmental" Status Quo of the forum going back over ten years was going to change overnight to suit them, and who just CAN'T get over the fact that some people don't like something they like. It's not about "people arguing" or "people disagreeing", "elitist behavior" or "bad attitudes" or any of that, because all the people on my Friends List are people I can't really remember WHAT we even agree on at all, I just know I think they're cool people. The difference is a lot of folks who have Been Here will gladly debate and argue all day long with no hurt feelings, and it's Just Fun. A few of the "rookies" haven't figured out how to do that yet. Well, they can either Learn, or they can Leave. But No, they definitely don't get to have their little "Everyone Agrees" echo chamber. And who wants that, anyway?

((The above is a case in point. *I* know Dave well enough to know when he's ribbing me, or just being colorful, or whatever, even when he's making a serious point. Meanwhile, to an outward observer like Trick, who I'm ALSO friends with, it might look like Dave is just taking shots or whatever. It takes a certain amount of time to be able to "read a room". Thanks guys! :)))

Anyways, I'm not keen on the "treat other people yadda yadda", that works exactly Never. I just treat everyone 100% the same, aaaaand if they don't like it I know they have a sandy vagina and probably aren't worth talking to.

C'mon, guys, lighten up, it's not like it's the strictest club in town or anything. LOTS of y'all have gone from Zero to Hero around here in a relatively short amount of time just by NOT being ridiculously sensitive. See? You Win! It's not at all hard. :lol: There's nothing wrong with This Place; there's something wrong with Some People, and some of them may yet prove themselves worthy. It's not like everybody doesn't get, like, twelve chances to straighten up. :lol:

[Davetello]

what the f*ck

:lol:

Whoa that came out of nowhere.

Hold up. You surveyed women on if a wrestler is attractive?

No, I didn't survey women. Back when I liked wrestling I asked some non-wrestling liking females if they thought John Cena was sexy, both women I knew in real life and women on forums. The result was a resounding no as they actually considered him the antithesis of that.

Someone mentioned alphas, which put me in the zone. Can't be a slayer when you're minority niche appeal.



((The above is a case in point. *I* know Dave well enough to know when he's ribbing me, or just being colorful, or whatever, even when he's making a serious point. Meanwhile, to an outward observer like Trick, who I'm ALSO friends with, it might look like Dave is just taking shots or whatever. It takes a certain amount of time to be able to "read a room". Thanks guys! :)))



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[Leo656]

Whenever I hear a gaggle of hens clucking about which wrestlers they like, I hear a lot of praise and swooning over Randy Orton, and a lot of comments about John Cena having a "Caveman Forehead". I never hear anyone else come up, it's usually just those two.

Y'know who's damn striking up close, though? F***in' GLACIER. No kiddin'.

[Davetello]

Whenever I hear a gaggle of hens clucking about which wrestlers they like, I hear a lot of praise and swooning over Randy Orton, and a lot of comments about John Cena having a "Caveman Forehead". I never hear anyone else come up, it's usually just those two.

Y'know who's damn striking up close, though? F***in' GLACIER. No kiddin'.

Exactly. MR RKO is - by objective standards - a comfortably better looking man than Mr Cena. Orton is just a naturally handsome man. Cena, on the other hand...well his appeal comes from his masculinity, and the masculinity comes from the muscularity. Cena's HGH jaw (aye, of course you don't juice, John, looool) and his really manly face wouldn't exist if not for his working out and juicing. His gym rat lifestyle is what makes his face 'good looking' to the niche that I refer to. He's certainly not a naturally good looking man, unlike Orton.

Cena looks like Matt Damon after Matt Damon ate another Matt Damon. If Cena had never been into wrestling or bodybuilding and had spent his life as a scrawny guy he wouldn't be considered good looking, because his 'good looking' facial aesthetics comes from how masculine his face and jaw is. That simply wouldn't exist without the bodybuilding. What people overlook is that working out has a GIANT effect on the face as well. That's why you see the overweight slobs who clearly have the makings of a nice defined jawline, but because they don't hit the gym they have multiple chins which disguise their potential fantastic facial aesthetics. Then you have the opposite - men like Cena who aren't naturally good looking but have managed to become 'good looking' to a niche demographic through working out and carving the 'hulking square jawed caveman' look. Fair play to the guy, it works for him.

No idea who Glacier is, but he's probably cool as ice which accounts for his popularity.

[Leo656]

Glacier was pretty much the opposite of popular - WCW brought back the gimmick after they killed it JUST to completely kill and bury it some more, which is pretty vicious even for them - but he IS a damn handsome man. Very sharp. Set your watch to his crew-cut, you could.

[Metalwolf]

Doesn't anyone wish TMNT had more sequels?

'In the second movie:
- Casey Jones
- Bebop & Rocksteady
- KraangThis is going to happen, as it's pretty much a set deal already. It's a bit up in the air with Casey though, I'm not 100% sure about him showing up.


In the third movie:
- Baxter Stockman
- Rahzar
- Slash

And I wish Shredder would reveal his face behind the armor.I would be surprised if Rahzar didn't show up, and Slash (or Tokka) wasn't there either. Those two seem to be the next 'canon' pairing after Bebop and Rocksteady, and I could easily see Shredder likely double mutating one of his henchmen into Rahzar (and maybe a turtle into Tokka or Slash) after Bebop and Rocksteady fail to take down the Turtles. It seems like it would be a natural evolution of things, especially with Bay and the way he likes to ramp things up (and make things more explody.)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bebop & Rocksteady, then Koya & Bludgeon. :tcool: