TMNT new lair speculation

[CyberCubed]

So they're staying at an abandoned pizza parlor for now but its only temporary. I don't think they can ever go back to their original lair now that the Kraang and Shredder know where it is.

What do you think their next lair will be? Don mentioned an abandoned subway station which reminds me of the lair they had in TMNT II, III and Next Mutation which would actually be cool to see in this show. What do you think?

[Mew]

I would like to see them live in the Subway.
They could get some subs for $5.00

[VaughnMichael]

I would like to see them live in the Subway.
They could get some subs for $5.00
hahahahahahahaha:lol:

[neatoman]

They are not going to hang out in a pizza place forever, that much is guaranteed. Either they go back to the old lair once the Kraang are gone but it's not likely considering that location was already compromised, or they find a new sewer/underground/watery hangout.

[Mew]

They need to live in their shells.
They're turtles, anyway.

[Amaranthus]

They need to live in their shells.
They're turtles, anyway.

Shells aren't a home though.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, agree it's prob too risky to move back... The abandoned subway station would be cool. (Although where was it they were already living? They had turnstiles... That always had me wondering.) Alternately, I liked where ever it was in 2003 when they pretty much had an attached garage, so to speak, that was pretty cool/handy.
Damn Kranng. I loved their lair. :tsad: And as I've said before, we never got to see Leo and Donnie's rooms... next home we need to see this and they aught to be awesome, k, Nick team? :twink: At least for Donnie his lab is also part of his own space and seen a lot, no such space for Leo.

They need to live in their shells.
They're turtles, anyway.
Psh, with human proportions they shouldn't even have any use for it now other than a bit of natural body armor.

[BabyTurtles]

Yeah, agree it's prob too risky to move back... The abandoned subway station would be cool. (Although where was it they were already living? They had turnstiles... That always had me wondering.) Alternately, I liked where ever it was in 2003 when they pretty much had an attached garage, so to speak, that was pretty cool/handy.


I think they were already living at an abandoned subway.

it has tracks and ticket barrier things (as they go into the liar)

[IndigoErth]

I think they were already living at an abandoned subway.

it has tracks and ticket barrier things (as they go into the liar)
Yeah, I thought so too that they were already in one. But... then I'm a little lost on where the entrance/exit is. o.O Suppose that could have been sealed off when it closed down though.

However the interior space is a bit odd for a subway station. Maybe it was utility of some sort... but the turnstiles.

[Powder]

My hope is that they'll recreate the lair from the the second & third movies/Next Mutation. That'd be really really cool.

[victory_angel]

Donnie also mentions an abandoned power plant which is where they turtles move to in season 4 of the 2003 incarnation of the show.

[Powder]

I'd also be happy if they moved into/below a mausoleum, like in the Image comics. But that's probably a very unrealistic desire.

[victory_angel]

Don't they live in an abandoned church at some point in the IDW.

[Cryomancer]

If they're moving I hope they have an episode where they go back to the old lair to move the tree. And pinball machine.

I kind of liked the fake water tower they did for awhile in Mirage but that feels more like a..."apartment" for a lack of a better word, for the turtles than a proper lair for the whole family.

[Powder]

Don't they live in an abandoned church at some point in the IDW.

Yeah, I think it was a church basement or something, between issues 13-16, I think. That'd be neat too.

I kind of liked the fake water tower they did for awhile in Mirage but that feels more like a..."apartment" for a lack of a better word, for the turtles than a proper lair for the whole family.

Unfortunately set building seems to be one of their heaviest expenses, so it's probably unlikely, but it would be super cool if they used that concept to give Raph a place to blow-off steam at. A water tower with a boom-box, some comic books, a mini fridge, etc. :tsmile:

[IndigoErth]

Don't they live in an abandoned church at some point in the IDW.
Hmm... Kill this Shredder and take his? That would work. :tlol:

[snake]

Don't they live in an abandoned church at some point in the IDW.

Yup. It's a pretty sweet lair too.

[MikeandRaph87]

Is the '87 cartoon the only version they are not forced to relocate? Having relocated early on in this and the '03 cartoon its surprising that they have to again. Don's reference to an abandoned subway station makes for an easter egg but it would be nice to be their next lair and hopefully last the rest of the series.

[Drose18]

Maybe for the lair they can crossover 2k3 and IDW saying http://i.imgur.com/r5rUi4e.png
is an abandoned church and live there or in the sewers under it? Eventho it looks kinda like a castle

[victory_angel]

Maybe for the lair they can crossover 2k3 and IDW saying http://i.imgur.com/r5rUi4e.png
is an abandoned church and live there or in the sewers under it? Eventho it looks kinda like a castle

I think that's supposed to be Belvader Castle in Central Park.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Belvedere_Castle,_Central_Park.jpg

[Drose18]

Oh probably they look very similar. I would still like to see the lair similar to one of the 2k3 ones tho. Probably not the second one they had for most of the series because of the 'lntian stuff but maybe more like the third one.

[IndigoErth]

Are Turtle castles an option? Votes for Turtle castle... :D

[ToTheNines]

They'll probably just end up back in the old one after they defeat the Kraang once and for all.

[Raph's Girl]

Maybe for the lair they can crossover 2k3 and IDW saying http://i.imgur.com/r5rUi4e.png
is an abandoned church and live there or in the sewers under it? Eventho it looks kinda like a castle

Yeah that's Belvedere Castle. The pond in front of it is known as Turtle Pond.

[Ashwolf]

Are Turtle castles an option? Votes for Turtle castle... :D

out of the 1s ive seen, the castle home is my fave

[Drose18]

They'll probably just end up back in the old one after they defeat the Kraang once and for all.

I remember an interview with one of the people on the show or Ciro I can't remember before the show came out talking about how much the cgi costs and how much of a pain it is to make new locations and characters with it. Hopefully tho we get a new lair.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah, I thought so too that they were already in one. But... then I'm a little lost on where the entrance/exit is. o.O Suppose that could have been sealed off when it closed down though.

However the interior space is a bit odd for a subway station. Maybe it was utility of some sort... but the turnstiles.


Nope, it's definitely a subway station- the tracks are right outside the "entrance" where the turnstiles are. That's where they kept the Shellraiser. I've never seen a sub station with a sewer connection like theirs had before, but maybe there was a ruptured sewer pipeline that flooded it? Maybe that's why it was abandoned. As for the street entrance, I think the Kraang were using that in this episode as part of their patrol route around the lair. That might be where those stairs went.


Donnie also mentions an abandoned power plant which is where they turtles move to in season 4 of the 2003 incarnation of the show.

Not quite- that lair was a water holding facility/treatment plant that was shut down- under Belvedere Castle. You can see its original use when they first found it.


Yeah, I think it was a church basement or something, between issues 13-16, I think. That'd be neat too.



Specifically, it was a bomb shelter UNDER the church's basement that was built in the 50's or 60's during the Cold War, according to Donnie.



I think that's supposed to be Belvader Castle in Central Park.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Belvedere_Castle,_Central_Park.jpg


Yup, it is. They even built a helipad under the pond for that helicopter they "borrowed" from the Foot! Not sure if the treatment plant hey were actually living in under there really exists, though. AFAIK, New York has twenty-five such plants, and I think most of them are still in use.


Yeah that's Belvedere Castle. The pond in front of it is known as Turtle Pond.


Yup. Fitting place for them, no?

[Zulithe]

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ScreenShot3559.jpg

[IndigoErth]

:thumbsup:

Surprised myself by immediately recognizing that though I haven't paid it's movie too close of attention for years, let alone the location. :tgrin:

[Bitsy83]

Wherever they go, I hope it includes a scene similar to the one in "Secret of the Ooze." Where Mikey falls through a break in the floor or something and Leo and Donnie are like "MIKEY! You ok?"

Mikey: Aw, COOL!!!

Then we get to the lair.

You know what would be neat? What if they found an old underground, abandoned Speakeasy from the 20s? I remember reading how during prohibition, a lot of places in New York would build secret meeting places where people could go and get illegal alcohol. It could be under some warehouse and have an old stage where bands and perfumers were and tons of back rooms where the liquor was kept.

Just a thought.

[aliena]

Yeah, agree it's prob too risky to move back... The abandoned subway station would be cool. (Although where was it they were already living? They had turnstiles... That always had me wondering.) Alternately, I liked where ever it was in 2003 when they pretty much had an attached garage, so to speak, that was pretty cool/handy.
Damn Kranng. I loved their lair. :tsad: And as I've said before, we never got to see Leo and Donnie's rooms... next home we need to see this and they aught to be awesome, k, Nick team? :twink: At least for Donnie his lab is also part of his own space and seen a lot, no such space for Leo.



Psh, with human proportions they shouldn't even have any use for it now other than a bit of natural body armor.

Yes, I wanted to see Leo and Donnie's rooms too. I was so sure they would make it happen before they lost the lair. At least we got to see their beds in the comics.

As for where they could live next. I liked the underground place in the IDW comics, but I also liked the water treatment plant too.

Or, an abandoned hotel like in the tv show Angel. It would be above ground though, but if a vampire can get away with it, surely the guys could.

[drgon78]

I really did like that hotel in the Angel TV series.

I would like to see them get a new permanent lair but not the Pizza place.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, I definitely don't think they'd remain there. Splinter did say it would do, for now.

Couldn't see him agreeing to living there permanently. Too small and layout is prob a bad match to their long term needs anyhow, and if the city is saved and reinhabited they'd prob be forced out sooner or later.

[victory_angel]

Yeah, I definitely don't think they'd remain there. Splinter did say it would do, for now.

Couldn't see him agreeing to living there permanently. Too small and layout is prob a bad match to their long term needs anyhow, and if the city is saved and reinhabited they'd prob be forced out sooner or later.

Yeah, at best that is probably a safety zone or a temporary shelter until they can find somewhere more suitable.

I can see them borrowing supplies from the abandoned apartments in the area.
also using said apartments for showers though that is done sparingly.

[IndigoErth]

If there's no electric and no hot water, probably quite sparingly. lol Well Turtles... I hope things are at least back in order and the electric is back before the cold months come. Either that or find a comfy new home and a few gas powered generators to keep you warm.

[victory_angel]

Well Antonio's had been abandoned for months, so if there is no refrigeration or power they wouldn't have to have an actual food supply in the restaurant aside from canned pizza sauce. Unless old thawed out pizza dough and spoiled meat is a food source.

A number of those pizza toppings are probably resemble something Donnie would like to study in his lab given the mold cultures they would probably be growing.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah... I had figured the dry ingredients as well as any unopened cans etc., are probably fine since it's only been a matter of months. But do NOT open the fridge. :tlol:

They can prob easily whip up pizza dough and find some cans of sauce, but forget the toppings. If there's some garlic, maybe do like the bread sticks some pizza places sell, and easier to ration out.

And then hope there's a wood burning oven or one that's gas fueled and not cut off.

[pannoni1]

I'd honestly just go back to the traditional abandoned water treatment plant rooms used being perhaps the most familiar version. But I'm fine if they just returned to the abandoned subway station. But an abandoned apartment/tenement/office building could be interesting as a temporary hangout.