Anyone who used to like this movie, but no longer does?

[Gunpowder]

Each time I watch this thing, I get closer and closer to the realization that it's garbage. From my perspective, production values and the Turtles' mocap actors were the ONLY real high points of this movie. Nevermind the plot holes, nevermind the crappy editing, nevermind the fact that half the cast was hired for being a name...the thing that frustrates me most is that these problems only happened because the production team - which is infamous for this stuff in the first place - was allowed to mess with the property, and handled it in a way that was geared 100% towards product placement and making money. Nothing more, nothing less.

Eh, but I guess I'm starting to sound one-sided, huh? I'll still watch the thing on occasion, but only when I'm in a blank mindset and just want to watch something that's one-dimensionally entertaining. BUT, more to the point, I used to like it a whole lot more than I do now - that was after having seen it only one time. Like I said, each time I see it, I'll notice something that makes my head turn, either from making no logical sense or just being unnecessary - and this is without any influence from other people whatsoever. Same thing happens when I watch it by myself.

So am I alone here? Did anyone else like it upon first seeing it, but liked it less down the road? Or even the reverse - did you used to hate it, and now like it? Has your opinion changed on it at all? (I won't take shots at you for liking it, don't worry. :tlol:)

[Creativemind]

I'm assuming you are talking about the new one. No, I still like it. I still think it's better than the 3rd one or the 2007 tmnt.

[Autbot_Benz]

I have watched 3 times once in the theater twice on DVD. I still like it.

[Xiewin]

you're not alone.

The first time I watched it, it was okay.

The second time it was just a bad story, with good turtles

the third time is when I realized that this movie was just pure garbage, both the story and turtles themselves.

[Amaranthus]

Why would anyone watch a recent movie like TMNT 2014 3 times?

[Candy Kappa]

No, I jumped ship when the designs was first leaked (Mikey Halloween costume). And it just went downhill from there.

[Mew]

I think the movie is good.
To much Megan Fox, but hey, she's hot! :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still love the Turtles' characterization, but when I watched it on DVD, I fast-forwarded thru the entire opening until they first appeared. So basically, now when I watch it, I'm skipping all of the April/Vern material. (And facepalming at the horrible Sachs/Shredder magic blood writing.)

[Nameless]

i like the movie but not as much as when it first came out... its just not a movie that re-watches well because you don't get anything more out of the movie. not like you watch it and notice same things you missed the first time.

[snake]

I never liked it. I don't plan on watching it again.

[IndigoErth]

I fast-forwarded thru the entire opening until they first appeared. So basically, now when I watch it, I'm skipping all of the April/Vern material.
While I probably don't belong in this thread since I've come from the other direction, I've started doing that as well. Since I warmed up to these Turtles a bit eventually and own the movie via Christmas gift I've had the DVD in a few times, but I've started to fast forward through all the non-Turtles stuff and done so the last couple of times. After a couple viewings the human-only portions start to feel a bit long winded and dull. And with the writing already spotty, what's to miss.
Granted I suppose were I a guy (or a woman that swings that way) and was into looking at Megan Fox it might be less dull :P, but I'm not... and well, a couple of the best looking guys involved are hidden behind their green counterparts.
was allowed to mess with the property, and handled it in a way that was geared 100% towards product placement and making money.
The one I'm most surprised at at this point is the "Project Almanac" advertisement...

In some way it's interestingly 4th wall breaking to now have trailers for it on tv not having known it was a real thing, in other ways...wtf using the Turtles movie to advertise it early.

Only after watching it again at home have I realized just how much product placement is there. Is this money that helps the film or goes into pockets? Because I thought that stuff was supposed to help movies, but if it's going into their pockets then at that rate what are the rich producers contributing other than control.

[Shark_Blade]

I watched it 8 times at the cinema. And many more on blu ray.

Still loving it.

[lindz247]

I think the movie is good.
To much Megan Fox, but hey, she's hot! :lol:

Hahaha!

I thought the movie was great. The funny parts were great. (Loved the part with the elevator!) The turtles were too. Yea it was a little clishae splinter "found" a book of ninjutsu out there in the gutter. I've watched it multiple times since christmas (when I got it). The weird part was April kept screaming for no reason. xD

[pennydreadful]

Granted I suppose were I a guy (or a woman that swings that way) and was into looking at Megan Fox it might be less dull :P, but I'm not... and well, a couple of the best looking guys involved are hidden behind their green counterparts.

Dude, trust me - I swing a number of ways and I don't find Fox appealing either. Judith Hoag has it all over Fox in spades.

Maybe I'm in the minority here but huge amounts of plastic surgery are not only a turn-off for me, but also massively creepy - all these actors walking around with the same features. Doesn't anyone else find it genuinely unsettling on a visceral level? All these celebs having the same teeth, noses and cheeks? It's like we're being invaded by aliens.

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[Mew]

Yes!
:lol:

[Gunpowder]

the third time is when I realized that this movie was just pure garbage, both the story and turtles themselves.

I still like the Turtles themselves (minus Knoxville's voice), but that's about it.

[IndigoErth]

http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/they-live-aliens-supermarket.jpg
:lol: Yes. Reaching for perfection that doesn't exist. Before this movie I never knew anything about Fox other than hearing the name. Her facial expressions (or lack of) annoy me now, it looks as if she's trying too hard to keep the one single expression she thinks is appealing. (Also... her eyes are creepy in the darker lighting of some scenes in TMNT, particularly when she's laying there after being yanked back onto the roof, dead alien looking eyes.)

[Powder]

I'm a red blooded male who loves to gawk at females & I feel the same way. She's too supermodel looking for my tastes. I much prefer a more homegrown regular look. Either way, April's looks are her least important aspect. Had she been a greek goddess, porn star, whatever, no matter how attractive she is, it doesn't make up for other shortcomings in the film. Not to anyone who thinks with their upstairs head, anyway.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I was one of those with an open mind and ready heart...even when the halloween costume came out i was scared but didnt right it off write away

i mean kids halloween costumes are awful anyways


then we got those Leo and Donnie Statues and i was still ok

then we got more..my heart sank, trailers came out and i lost all hope.ive said it before and i will say it again this is not TMNT outside of its name....its just a cash grab

[Shark_Blade]

Megan Fox is #1 Hottest Women on Empire.
http://www.empireonline.com/100sexiest2009/women/default.asp?star=1

And she's still in the top 10 in 2014.
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-beautiful-women-of-2014/

And many magazines and websites. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others feel that way too. ;) The world has regarded highly of her. Look yourself in the mirror before slandering other people. ;);)

[B-Man]

We all know she's limited as an actress but the girl is gorgeous. If she's not good looking, I don't know who is. Wouldn't say she's No. 1 by any means though. Her lack of relatability and steely "I'm too cool for you" expressions kill that quite a bit.

[Powder]

Megan Fox is #1 Hottest Women on Empire.
http://www.empireonline.com/100sexiest2009/women/default.asp?star=1

And she's still in the top 10 in 2014.
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-beautiful-women-of-2014/

And many magazines and websites. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others feel that way too. ;) The world has regarded highly of her. Look yourself in the mirror before slandering other people. ;);)

A few million people strongly believed in Hitler too. Cut the crap.

[pennydreadful]

Megan Fox is #1 Hottest Women on Empire.
http://www.empireonline.com/100sexiest2009/women/default.asp?star=1

And she's still in the top 10 in 2014.
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-beautiful-women-of-2014/

And many magazines and websites. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others feel that way too. ;) The world has regarded highly of her. Look yourself in the mirror before slandering other people. ;);)

Sweetheart, I don't give a shiny sh*t if others find her hot. I specifically said in my post that I am not attracted to her. At no point did I say "anyone who is attracted to Fox is a puppy-kicking f*cktard". My favorite musician in the whole world has said that Fox is #1 on her list of people she'd like to bone. That doesn't change my opinion any.

Last time I checked, fugly people are still allowed to a) have their own preferences with what they're attracted to, and b) voice their opinions. Your argument is pretty much just "You're just jelluz hater bcuz u r ugly". Dude, I'm aware that far more people want a taste of Fox's hot-sauce than they ever would of mine. That has nothing to do with the fact that I still don't find her sexy.

Last but certainly not least, my opinions and preferences aren't shaped by what other people like, or what mass media touts as being popular - so I don't know why you're even bringing up Empire.

[B-Man]

Dude, I'm aware that far more people want a taste of Fox's hot-sauce than they ever would of mine.

Penny I have no idea what you look like but based on your killer personality, you're already hotter than a million Megan Fox's. Seriously.

[Bry]

http://e-nanigans.com/gifs/seinfeldnope.gif

[TigerClaw]

I still like the movie even several months after it came out, for me, If you like something, You like it forever.

I guess for some people, after they get older, the movies they grew up with, no longer have any effect on them.

I look at the older movies, and only remember that, they were a screenshot of the era they were made.

[B-Man]

I guess for some people, after they get older, the movies they grew up with, no longer have any effect on them.

The older people get, the more critical they are, which is fair enough. I just hate when I do it personally when it comes to franchises like this. Makes me feel jaded :lol:

[TigerClaw]

The older people get, the more critical they are, which is fair enough. I just hate when I do it personally when it comes to franchises like this. Makes me feel jaded :lol:
Not only that, Looking back at the older stuff, just makes you feel old.

[Leo656]

"A magazine that exists solely to tell people what is marketable and 'attractive' says this actress that was in this movie I like is hot, because they make lots of money on pictures of her ass, so of course it must be true. Real people's opinions don't matter, because they're just people. Meanwhile, a respected media institution such as a magazine or website would only ever tell the truth." :roll:

Truth is, she's Just Okay, and you're an idiot. Literally everything you say is awful. Every single thing. I try and avoid personal attacks, but I swear, you make it hard. If you ever said ONE thing that wasn't trolling/baiting nonsense it'd be a goddamn miracle.

[CyberCubed]

Megan Fox isn't good looking at all. I wouldn't even have sex with her if she offered herself to me with no strings attached.

[IndigoErth]

Hollywood puppet, she won't work without strings.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cf/f1/21/cff121bb1d1e30a6f3b8f870482fbde8.jpg

[LeoRaph]

I don't find her attractive at ALL. I don't get the 'plastic ultra skinny look' that Hollywood does either. Women who look like real people NOT artificial expressionless cult members Now THAT'S attractive.

Oh and yeah, it didn't get better the 2nd time. I gave it another shot via streaming to see if I was being too harsh and NO I wasn't being harsh enough. The 5 Razzies are Well Deserved save the Worst Supporting Actress 'downgrade' :twink:

[Leo656]

Megan Fox isn't good looking at all. I wouldn't even have sex with her if she offered herself to me with no strings attached.

:lol: I'm suuuure. :lol:

She's OKAY. By Hollywood standards though she's definitely nothing special, especially after she wrecked her face. If you saw her on line buying bread at 7-11 or something she'd be a knockout (when compared to the flock of "normal" and less attractive people in the immediate area), but for as much attention she gets, there's really no reason for it when Hollywood is full of chicks who are both better looking and can act better.

Actually, there is a reason, and it happens every day. It's called, "The Casting Couch". Literally the only reason she's forced down people's throats so much; because she had a few people "forced down her throat" first.

I do find it funny when people pull the "I'd never hit that" line, though, as in my experience they're the type who'd pay for it. Not always, but usually. I've legit seen guys whose wives were 250lbs look at a girl like Fox and be all, "Nah, she ain't hot, she doesn't have enough ass," and I'm like, "Well, no, compared to the livestock you're used to keeping at home, clearly not..." :lol:

Anyway yeah she's Okay but nothing super-special. Especially not now. I mean, that FACE. Ugh. I'll grant you the body, or at least her ass, but that FACE... to think she CHOSE that one... oooof. She lose a bet with Meg Ryan?

[CyberCubed]

I do find it funny when people pull the "I'd never hit that" line, though, as in my experience they're the type who'd pay for it. Not always, but usually. I've legit seen guys whose wives were 250lbs look at a girl like Fox and be all, "Nah, she ain't hot, she doesn't have enough ass," and I'm like, "Well, no, compared to the livestock you're used to keeping at home, clearly not..." :lol:
Ryan?

Well fat chicks are another story, but comparing Megan Fox to other slim girls around her weight...she's just not as appealing.

I'm not the kind of a guy who wants to have sex with a million chicks, give me one good girl for the rest of my life and I will be happy.

[shuriken]

^^In terms of "fat chicks" I guess it depends on the severity of fatness:lol:
But seriously I've dated some thicker ladies and to be honest I don't mind personally. Some thicker girls got curves for DAAAAAAAAAAAYS. Never been with anyone over 200 pounds but I find the older I get, the less I really care. My current girlfriend is tiny though, but that has its advantages too.


http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/they-live-aliens-supermarket.jpg

CALL ROWDY PIPER

Back to the movie I like it. Even though it is a very badly made, poorly acted, poorly paced, poorly directed and poorly edited movie. The CGI was good, even great at some parts. That is something I can't say about TMNT though.
As for Megan Fox, I used to think she was very pretty, but her "new face" does seem a bit strange. Different strokes I suppose.

[Leo656]

I'm not the kind of a guy who wants to have sex with a million chicks, give me one good girl for the rest of my life and I will be happy.

Ahh, yeah, the old "Better to make love to one woman a million times, than to make love to a million women" chestnut.

I promise you, the first guy to ever say that nonsense probably couldn't even get hookers to hold still. :lol: There is not one guy alive that wouldn't dive headfirst into a swimming pool full of naked supermodels, no matter how "content" they pretended or claimed to be. That's just the way it is. :lol:

penny: I forgot to give you bonus points for the "They Live" reference. Go ahead and take a million points. I got nothin' to use 'em for, they're just sitting here.

[pennydreadful]

Penny I have no idea what you look like but based on your killer personality, you're already hotter than a million Megan Fox's. Seriously.

Oh shucks. You're very kind. :embarass:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/334aa8d40c1bf17694acb58354287c1b/tumblr_n7z1e7IfAR1tae32wo1_500.gif

Anyway yeah she's Okay but nothing super-special. Especially not now. I mean, that FACE. Ugh. I'll grant you the body, or at least her ass, but that FACE... to think she CHOSE that one... oooof. She lose a bet with Meg Ryan?

She was actually more attractive (IMO) before she started getting so much surgery (I thought she was cutest around 2004, but hey, I think nose freckles are cute). Even in her Transformers days I could see the appeal. But around 2009 (after she got the boot from Bayformers 3, you'll note), she started looking very... plastic. Seriously, look at pics of her from 2004 to 2007. Then take a look at shots of her from 2009 to the current date.

I think it's going to be very weird 30 years from now when all of our current crop of celebrities look like Joan Rivers. (Is it too soon for that joke? I don't know, but I'm going there.)

Leo - I think They Live should be required watching for pretty much everyone. They ought to be showing that movie in schools, yo. But thanks for the points - I hope they're redeemable for a lap dance. :lol:

[Leo656]

Leo - I think They Live should be required watching for pretty much everyone. They ought to be showing that movie in schools, yo.

I find it intriguing that people act like the things in these movies aren't actually coming to pass.

I mean how corporations keep us lulled into an uncaring, bewildered "sleep" through subliminal messages in their entertainment and advertising that completely control the way we think and how we live our lives. Not that it's all secretly being done by aliens. :lol:

TMNT is actually a really great example. "People will like it, because we tell them they have to, that they 'are not a True Fan' if they don't, and create a cloud of dismissal around anyone who dissents." Once you KNOW they're doing it, I don't see how people can fall for it. But they do!

I guess it's like how an entire generation can grow up watching "Terminator", and yet still push for a world where we're all hyper-dependent on technology, despite knowing full-well how easily that can (and will) turn out to be a mistake. "Because movies are just entertainment". No, actually, the best ones can actually teach you something.

Doesn't shock me that people miss the easy ones. Disappoints me, sure, but doesn't shock me.

[IndigoErth]

Ya know, with so much product placement, maybe it would be easier to consider it one long Super Bowl commercial. :P Get some team jerseys on those linebacker Turtles and they're all set. (Damn I wish I was gifted with making impressive fan art, I'd SO go make something Super Bowl themed with these guys. :lol:)

[Xav]

There is not one guy alive that wouldn't dive headfirst into a swimming pool full of naked supermodels, no matter how "content" they pretended or claimed to be. That's just the way it is. :lol:Not even gay guys?

[Candy Kappa]

Not even gay guys?

pool full of male supermodels? or both...

[Netkeeper]

Hey, he didn't specify the gender of these supermodels.

EDIT: I didn't see Kappa had topped a next page so I'll just sit over here and *redacted* myself

[HeroTurtlesFan]

*Shrugs* I like Megan Fox just fine in this movie.

I've seen it twice. First time I really enjoyed it; second time (with my kids) - not quite as much. My main problem is it just felt too rushed. It had great production values though, and the effects used to bring the Turtles to life/action were terrific.

My life is too busy to watch even films I love that regularly, so I don't know when I'll next see it.

[Mew]

For me its the opposite!
I hated the designs, story, and TOO MUCH MEGAN FOX.
But it has grown on me!
:anime:

[Commenter 42]

Megan gets WAY too much hate, let's be real. Yes, she's made millions, yes, she's a celeb so she can just " take it like a pro" etc... but really, the hate she gets is more than uncalled for.

Kathy Griffin is incredibly obnoxious, and plastic, and no one rides her. She's a d list bitchy trashy unfunny bad actress. Why not hate on her?

Fox sucked in PDMT, for sure. She was really ham fisted into the part, yes.
But really, she sure as hell wasn't the biggest problem. And given the craptastic actors they hired, I'm surprised we didn't end up with some other d-list gem, you know, like Lindsay Lohan, or Anna Kendrick (sorry Bry, I really hate her, really-really-really hate her.) I was actually pretty opposed to the majority of fan-casting that dominated the web before Fox was announced. There were too many " I like turtles and I like this actress, so she should be April" BS going on. It's crazy town most of the time, because they aren't casting for the role they're simply announcing their favorite actor/crush/obsession or repeating what others have said. Fox was as fitting a choice as any of the other blah blah, because April wasn't supposed to be the star. She isn't the focus. She's a secondary character, or at least she should be.

But yeah, the Megan Fox is not hot bit, lol kids, get over yourselves. Absolutely, there are hotter women, yes she was way more attractive years ago, as I'm sure we allllllll were, and yeah, her public persona sucks, but bashing her because she had work done, so now she's not hot enough anymore, is acceptable? Hmmmmm....

lol, c'mon folks. This be a bridge too far.

[B-Man]

Megan gets WAY too much hate, let's be real.

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[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Megan Fox is #1 Hottest Women on Empire.
http://www.empireonline.com/100sexiest2009/women/default.asp?star=1

And she's still in the top 10 in 2014.
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-beautiful-women-of-2014/

And many magazines and websites. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others feel that way too. ;) The world has regarded highly of her. Look yourself in the mirror before slandering other people. ;);)

There are way hotter women than Megan Fox.

[Leo656]

http://media.giphy.com/media/iFim3cgBYYfPG/giphy.gif

Is... is she supposed to look like she's about to jill herself off? :lol: (Awkward out-of-context hand placement For The Win)

[Commenter 42]

I immediately thought of April. Can't say say for sure why...


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[massakre]

I actually enjoy the movie each time I watch it about the same as when I seen it the first time. Its entertaining for sure.

[Bry]

Anna Kendrick (sorry Bry, I really hate her, really-really-really hate her.)

HA. :tlol: I forgot all about that. I got real dumbly set off and serious about that for some reason - sorry I was being a jerk back then, hey?

But yeah, the Megan Fox is not hot bit, lol kids, get over yourselves. Absolutely, there are hotter women, yes she was way more attractive years ago, as I'm sure we allllllll were, and yeah, her public persona sucks, but bashing her because she had work done, so now she's not hot enough anymore, is acceptable? Hmmmmm....

lol, c'mon folks. This be a bridge too far.

Besides, attractiveness is pretty subjective anyway. People have different "types" and preferences. Kind of pointless to throw it around like an objective standard, IMO.

There's plenty of legitimate things to criticize, like a weak performance or a bad attitude toward the audience/fans (check and check!), but there should be more to an actor/actress than just looks, right?

[Gunpowder]

I'm assuming you are talking about the new one.

Yep. That's why it's in the "Platinum Dunes" section. :tthumbsu: I like your avatar.

Dude, trust me - I swing a number of ways and I don't find Fox appealing either. Judith Hoag has it all over Fox in spades.

all these actors walking around with the same features. Doesn't anyone else find it genuinely unsettling on a visceral level? All these celebs having the same teeth, noses and cheeks?

That's how the world works, unfortunately. One-dimensionality. Food is the exact same way - same sweeteners, same additives, just different flavors. Celebrities follow the same formula, in essence; and people buy into it.

Oh, and yes, Hoag is MILES ahead of Fox. She's authentically attractive.

Just because you like her doesn't mean others feel that way too. ;)

Fixed.

Megan Fox isn't good looking at all. I wouldn't even have sex with her if she offered herself to me with no strings attached.

To each his own, but I can't say I'm with you on that one.

*Shrugs* I like Megan Fox just fine in this movie.

I pretty much agree. She was a god-awful casting choice, but I felt she did her best with the role; and she's nowhere near the top of my complaint list for this movie. I cringed at her casting more than her acting, because if the former had been avoided, then so would the latter.

That said, I understand people's complaints with her being too "plastic" or that stereotypical Hollywood rendition of "attractive" and "skinny", but I still think she's good-looking, for sure. Problem is, April shouldn't be that way. She's never been that drop-dead gorgeous "anyone would bang" kinda chick; she should have more of that "pretty girl down the street" look.

I'm surprised we didn't end up with some other d-list gem, you know, like Lindsay Lohan, or Anna Kendrick

I would have preferred Kendrick much more than Fox, to be honest...

[Xiewin]

I still like the Turtles themselves (minus Knoxville's voice), but that's about it.


To be honest, the only character I enjoyed throughout the whole movie was Raphael. But even he was too one dimensional for my taste, if I knew a bit more about his character, it would have probably been my favorite interpretation of him. But oh well lol.

[Gunpowder]

To be honest, the only character I enjoyed throughout the whole movie was Raphael. But even he was too one dimensional for my taste, if I knew a bit more about his character, he would have probably been my favorite interpretation of him. But oh well lol.

Oh, I'm totally with you. I loved Alan Ritchson in this. But like you put it, he just wasn't a well-developed character - and neither was any character in the entire movie. Plus a lot of his lines didn't make any sense... That little speech at the end had no build-up at all, and as a result it had no meaning. And another one - which I haven't seen ANYONE mention - is at the end when he thanks April for not telling anyone about them...didn't the entire plot revolve around her telling Sacks about them?

Still though, I really liked the persona they gave him. Hoping he gets some actual development next time around.

[IndigoErth]

Plus a lot of his lines didn't make any sense... That little speech at the end had no build-up at all, and as a result it had no meaning.
http://i.imgur.com/Yu8Cggl.jpg

And another one - which I haven't seen ANYONE mention - is at the end when he thanks April for not telling anyone about them...didn't the entire plot revolve around her telling Sacks about them?
Yeaaaah... They don't wonder how the Foot found them? Guess she's keeping that little detail to herself. That and the fact that she lost her job and is no longer as large of a threat because of it.

[CyberCubed]

I actually considering buying the blu-ray at one point, but left it on the shelf. I know if I buy it on blu-ray I'd only watch it once and then it would sit there collecting dust as some awful thing I wish I never bought.

I'll probably just rewatch the movie online somewhere for free just to reaffirm my hate for it.

[Commenter 42]

HA. :tlol: I forgot all about that. I got real dumbly set off and serious about that for some reason - sorry I was being a jerk back then, hey?

:D :lol: All good! I was pretty defensive to, but back then, it we were living in perpetual fear/hope/sadness/joy. None of us were thinking clearly.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of...

:p


Besides, attractiveness is pretty subjective anyway. People have different "types" and preferences. Kind of pointless to throw it around like an objective standard, IMO.

There's plenty of legitimate things to criticize, like a weak performance or a bad attitude toward the audience/fans (check and check!), but there should be more to an actor/actress than just looks, right?

Sure, there are plenty of things to criticise, but at the end of the day, she's still a woman, who had one thing to trade on - her looks, and for a few years, she was the most googled most loved most desired -(or so the internet said, and at the time it seemed) until she started speaking to the press. All of a sudden, she's vile - all of a sudden she's a horrible human being, all of a sudden she called M.Bay "Hitler" and her Career goes down in flames.

All she had were her looks, and she probably thought "I need to keep myself looking a certain way, I need to look young, and that will fix everything"

I don't think there's a single young woman who hasn't thought "if I only fix x, or y or z, I'll feel better, more confident" etc.

It's what insecure people do. I do it all the damned time. If you read between the lines of what she's said, you can see Fox is just as insecure. yeah she told the Fans to **** off. she dure did. Why? Everything was riding on Turtles for her. I don't think you have to have to look at her and say, "ya, well you make millions, and I don't so F-you" to possibly sympathize with with her. In Hollywood, people are different. They mess with you. Large scale fame messes with you. It really is like the worst version of highschool there is.

The public's developed a blood thirst for celebrity, specifically insanely popular celebrities., and people who used to be considered attractive.

Now the media is bending over backwards, insisting Lena Dunham and Melissa Mccarthy are "sexy".

It can be an argument, all day all night as to whether or not that's true, fueled by PC idea's of what is right or wrong to say etc. Sure everyone has different tastes, and exactly, one man's treasure is another's trash...but seriously, it's crazy.

I will not apologize for thinking both of those women are far from sex objects, physically or otherwise. They gross me the **** out. Dunham specifically, is a toad of a human. Just because she's intelligent, which she clearly is, does not make her wonderful. She's a self righteous twit, more so than Fox on her worst day.

5 years ago, everyone would agree. 10 years ago, it wouldn't be a question. We're living in backwards land these days; nerds are cool, ugly is hot, and country music is popular.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

so the splinter versus shredder clip just appeared on my tumblr dashboard and i just realized....April gives shredder a "fatal" blow there too...she literally is the only one who stops shredder from killing any of the turtle or splitner


this really was her movie...nothing progressed without her envolvement

[Leo656]

42: All fair points. I think a lot of it also has to do with society's tendency to - eventually - push back against what they've been force-fed. Like you said, Fox was stuffed down everyone's throats for years. Well, now people are sick of her to the point where they overreact to the other extreme. Happens to every "celebrity". I mean, I *know* I'm that way. The more I'm told "So-and-so is the hottest thing ever", the more I'm gonna drift from "She's okay" to "Woof, no thanks", just because that's how my brain works. "Don't tell ME what's attractive, I'll figure that out for myself." I'm sure I'm not the only one.

She's alright. She's not the hottest and she's not ugly, she's not the best or worst actress ever, but she's definitely overrated and overexposed as f*ck. I also have Zero sympathy for anyone who gets involved in the entertainment business no matter what their insecurities are, because everyone knows it's a rotten, shallow business, especially for a woman. You sign up for that. "Price of fame" and all that. Don't want to be objectified, sexualized, scrutinized and demonized? Then stay home and get a real job. You invite all that stuff the second you decide you want to make a living doing basically nothing. Fair? Not exactly, but again, nobody ever said it was. Women, especially. Women know, for a fact, that if you want to be an actress, you're going to be judged entirely on your looks AND have to sleep around to get ahead. That's The Game. You don't HAVE to play it, but you do if you want to "make it". I have zero sympathy for Fox or anyone else in her position. It's their choice.

[Commenter 42]

I agree Leo, absolutely. But I also think, some people get punished beyond what's acceptable. Every celeb who gets too big, goes a little nutty.

I just think it's not so much the fault of the celeb, but of the public. We helped build the Frankenstein, so we must be responsible for it.

It's a little disturbing though, the vigor and exuberance with wich we burn them.

Perhaps there's something in that.

[Leo656]

Oh definitely, definitely. We love to put people on a pedestal and then tear them down. The first part, is because human beings love to live vicariously through others, partly because it's just easier than actually getting there ourselves. The second part, is because we're jealous that those people have things we will never have. Once a person we idolize reaches a certain level of success, it inevitably becomes, "How DARE they". Just human nature.

[CyberCubed]

I find it interesting this thread has turn into a Megan Fox attractiveness thread rather than the actual quality or not of the movie.

[Commenter 42]

I find it interesting this thread has turn into a Megan Fox attractiveness thread rather than the actual quality or not of the movie.

I find it interesting that once a real conversation starts, in any thread, people cry foul.

Discordia, thy name be Cybercubed. I suppose we have that in common.

[pennydreadful]

I find it interesting this thread has turn into a Megan Fox attractiveness thread rather than the actual quality or not of the movie.

I think the question of the quality of the movie has already been pretty well answered. Picking over it further just invites the same round of arguments from people who can't be objective about its flaws (aka, the "I like it, therefore it's good" argument). Everyone's tired of reading the same arguments from the same people. A change of topic is a breath of fresh air at this stage of the game.

[Leo656]

Agreed.

And Fox's knees are kinda bony. Just sayin'.

[Commenter 42]

Agreed.

And Fox's knees are kinda bony. Just sayin'.

Maybe we should start talking nostrils? It's a fascinating topic.
http://fuza.ru/uploads/posts/2011-10/1319464085_2-photo.jpg
Face it, everyone loves a ninja turtle nose.

[IndigoErth]

Maybe we should start talking nostrils? It's a fascinating topic.
Ok. Look at those suckers.

http://i.imgur.com/5CieoDg.jpg

'Course in a week we'll probably hear she got a nose job and I'm forced to feel guilty.

(Gah, you added to the post... lol)

[Commenter 42]

(Gah, you added to the post... lol)

Meh, It's Friday, and I'm sober. This is what happens. My life is a carnivale.

[Leo656]

I admire you for going the extra mile with "carnivale". Most people would have just said "carnival", but the E is for class-ee, brother. :tcool:

[Commenter 42]

I admire you for going the extra mile with "carnivale". Most people would have just said "carnival", but the E is for class-ee, brother. :tcool:

I wanted to make sure you had the pronunciation right in your head.

[pennydreadful]

Maybe we should start talking nostrils? It's a fascinating topic.

Face it, everyone loves a ninja turtle nose.

Cubed doesn't. Do we want to get him started on the Nostril Edit business again? :tlol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Cubed doesn't. Do we want to get him started on the Nostril Edit business again? :tlol:


Yes! Yes we do- it's so entertaining, after all!

[IndigoErth]

I think Turtle boogers is the real fear.

It would not surprise me if the sequel (or a later one if there were more...) had a snot joke.

[Metalwolf]

Please don't encourage Mr. Bay. You know the man might do it :ohwell:

Megan Fox is kind of pretty, but her earlier attitude kind of makes her somewhat ugly. I know in Transformers she mentioned in an interview (I think it was for Rolling Stones) that she slept with Shia LeBouf(sp?) and bragged that she was bisexual. Her saying that stuff made her come off like a braying donkey to me, since nobody really gives a toss if a person is bisexual or who they slept with, but she just had to put it out there so she looked 'hot 'n edgy.' :roll:

[shuriken]

^^Gonna play devil's advocate here and say that some people tend to over-share things. Then they come off as either cocky, stuck up and douchey, or they come off as having boundary issues, somewhat creepy and weird. In regard to Fox I guess it was the first one.

[B-Man]

It was Shia who outed that they had a fling during the Revenge Of The Fallen shoot, which she denied. But yeah Fox does talk very loosely to the press, which on one hand is refreshing, but on the other hand makes her look bad. Theres a clip on Youtube of her at the LA Turtles premiere, she was asked why Mikey is her favourite and she replied "Mikey's funny. Funny makes you drop your panties." She's at the premiere of her f*cking Nickelodeon movie surrounded by young fans and talks like that. Everytime she seems to be maturing or appearing humble, she'll do something like tells those who don't like the film they can "f*ck off". My biggest complaint with her being April isn't her acting, it's that I don't think she should be any sort of role model for young girls.

[pennydreadful]

Eh, I tend to take interviews with a grain of salt - especially written interviews. I think it's very easy for people to say something and have it be taken out of context. And interviewers will often gear questions specifically so that they can get answers which will help them sell copy.

I personally didn't care about Fox sharing that she was bi - what bothered me is that she said "I would never date a girl who is bisexual, because that means they also sleep with men, and men are so dirty that I'd never sleep with a girl who had slept with a man." Like, wow - you managed to sh*t on both men and women, all in just one sentence. That takes a special kind of skill.

I think Turtle boogers is the real fear.

It would not surprise me if the sequel (or a later one if there were more...) had a snot joke.

We shouldn't talk about such things. 'Snot funny. :tlol:

[Leo656]

B-Man: Her saying stuff like that makes me wonder how much input she had, if any, into how "aggressive" Mikey was towards her in the movie. Maybe she insisted? :roll:

penny: Wow, saying things like that really paints her as being just about the worst kind of person. She really is a cow.

[IndigoErth]

Theres a clip on Youtube of her at the LA Turtles premiere, she was asked why Mikey is her favourite and she replied "Mikey's funny. Funny makes you ..."
Mind bleach. STAT.

I'll take a snot joke over anything THAT comment from her could come dangerously close to encouraging. :teek:

[DarkFell]

I can't even began to understand her current attitude after the TMNT film, nor do I want to.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

so rumor has it she is pregnant again and will be on set...who forsees reshoots?

[IndigoErth]

Is Mikey the father?

[Gunpowder]

Is Mikey the father?

Well, she apparently has the hots for both him and Raph, so who knows. :tlol:

/D83bLVK4yBg

[IndigoErth]

"-- are you talking about Raphael in particular?" Well that came out of nowhere. :lol: Mikey who?

[pennydreadful]

Sounds like we need to get Maury Povich up in this sh*t. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

:lol::tlol: Prob a third movie.

Michelangelo, you are NOT the father! *throws chair*
*Splinter sitting out in the lobby hangs his head in shame*
Raphael, you are NOT the father! "I TOLD you! Now leave me alone!"
*Donnie and Leo, watching from the audience, look a little relieved*
Vern... you are NOT the father! *shrug* "Hey, I tried."
That leaves us with only Mr. Bay and Mr. Liebesman... you are, somehow to a certainty of 99%, BOTH the father!

[Commenter 42]

Pregnant again? How wonderful!

RECAST HER NOW!!!!!

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

seriously...5 bucks says reshoots will happen and pregnancy will be the excuse

[TrickOrTreater]

All aboard this train wreck!

CHOO CHOO MOTHERF*CKERS

[pennydreadful]

Michelangelo, you are NOT the father! *throws chair*
*Splinter sitting out in the lobby hangs his head in shame*
Raphael, you are NOT the father! "I TOLD you! Now leave me alone!"
*Donnie and Leo, watching from the audience, look a little relieved*
Vern... you are NOT the father! *shrug* "Hey, I tried."
That leaves us with only Mr. Bay and Mr. Liebesman... you are, somehow to a certainty of 99%, BOTH the father!

Nah, the surprise reveal is that Splinter's the father. Then they all go on Jerry Springer for a special episode - "My Dad Is Sleeping With My Girlfriend & She's Pregnant With His Baby".

Jerry: "So, April, you say you've been cheating on your boyfriend with his father and one of his brothers? Why would you do that?"
Mikey: "'Cuz she a HO, Jerry - a nasty-ass ho!"

***cue traditional Jerry Springer fisticuffs***

http://i.imgur.com/pQTCuFh.gif?1

Crowd: "JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!"

:lol:

[Myko]

Judith Hoag was really good in the first movie.

[ProactiveMan]

Sounds like we need to get Maury Povich up in this sh*t. :lol:

I couldn't resist...

http://i.imgur.com/Wguj0U3.gif

[mexichrist83]

I couldn't resist...

http://i.imgur.com/Wguj0U3.gif

Buahahahahaha! I should not have laughed as hard (and as much) as I did at this but that was just so unexpected. Well done!

[Gunpowder]

I couldn't resist...

http://i.imgur.com/Wguj0U3.gif

Now that's funny.

(Is that baby green or is it just me?)

[pennydreadful]

I couldn't resist...

http://i.imgur.com/Wguj0U3.gif

You sir, have won an internets. :D

[IndigoErth]

http://i.imgur.com/qeJDF66.jpg

[DarkFell]

http://i.imgur.com/MTBp9yg.gif
Now that's funny.

(Is that baby green or is it just me?)
Green baby is green.

[creativeturtle]

Still have not seen it. Looks horrible in everything I see of it. Will watch it at least once someday, maybe all the way through.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

I don't like the movie any less when I re-watch it, but I do like Megan Fox less and less every time I watch it. But at least it's not as bad as she was in Jonah Hex, which is the worst acting performance in a hollywood movie ever. I've never liked William Fichtner and I can't stand him in this movie.

I thought Fox was very hot in Transformers, but looks really don't matter when you see the person has no personality or is annoying, and they surely made her annoying in Transformers 2, then just based off interviews etc...I thought she was just ok looking. I don't think she's had plastic surgery, I keep reading people say that, but I think she's almost 30 now, and has had like 3 or 4 kids so that can change a woman it doesn't mean she's had work done. Besides if she was going to get plastic surgery don't you think she would have fixed her toe-thumb?

[Leo656]

She's definitely had work done on her face, dude. When you see it with a lot of chicks and know what to look for, you can tell.

Then there's the fact - not opinion - that ALL women in Hollywood have had work done, whether it's a lift or a nose job or "just" Botox and fillers. It's mandatory, especially ones whose entire career depends on how high they are ranked on a Maxim list. If you're an actress, it's not even a question if you've had work done, it's just a matter of How Much.

[IndigoErth]

I wouldn't be too surprised if there is at least botox involved, her facial expressions in the movie felt like they were kind of restricted.

I dunno, maybe they were there telling her to look fearful "but pout a little more," somehow, and made it weird.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

The best thing about jonah hex is megan fox in that outfit.

[pennydreadful]

Oh no, she's never had any work done at all.

http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/foxface3.jpg

Btw, she was 19 years old in the 2005 shot... people's appearances don't change that much.

http://www.mydochub.com/images/megan-fox-plastic-surgery.jpg

Blind Freddy can see how much work she's had done - let's not pretend that her entire head isn't made of plastic. At this stage, the woman practically has Mattel stamped on her ass.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vConyh9A-3g/UFjIuCf0o6I/AAAAAAAAH0c/4X8FPGdGsXU/s1600/MeganFox-BeforeAndAfter.jpg

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/InTouchJuly2009.jpg

[Leo656]

That sh*t is DEPRESSING, man. As a guy who appreciates the au natural types, just looking at that sh*t makes me irrationally angry. YOU WERE PRETTY, F***HEAD! Christ. I feel bad for her. She clearly has serious insecurities and self-esteem problems. Anyone who has THAT much work done clearly doesn't like themselves. Doesn't take a psych degree to see that.

First pic was by FAR the prettiest, not even a contest. Why do girls hate their freckles?! Fox, Lohan... I don't get it. Freckles are kind of "Cute Sexy". I love those kinds of little things that make girls unique. :ohwell:

[Shark_Blade]

Even Angelina Jolie had plastic surgery so I don't see what the fuss is about. Both women are beautiful. :tlove:

If other women can look beautiful without changing anything, more power to them. If they want to change things, it's up to them. It's their own body.

[IndigoErth]

Blind Freddy can see how much work she's had done - let's not pretend that her entire head isn't made of plastic. At this stage, the woman practically has Mattel stamped on her ass.
:lol:

The difference between 2005 and 2007, wtf. I mean, granted caking on the makeup can really change a person, but she looks like she aged by about 8 years, not two. That can't only be makeup.

(If she seriously does not stop with the lips though... What, is she constantly sucking on Sour Patch Kids or something? Do it throughout the Turtles sequel and I will climb into that screen somehow and slap you.)


Mattel stamped on her ass
Edit: Definitely not Playmates. Considering the amount of paint. :lol: (Well, maybe a different kind of playmate to Shark Bl, I mean, some people.)

[Leo656]

Even Angelina Jolie had plastic surgery so I don't see what the fuss is about. Both women are beautiful. :tlove:

If other women can look beautiful without changing anything, more power to them. If they want to change things, it's up to them. It's their own body.

No sh*t, but they'd have to be delusional to look in the mirror and honestly think what they've done to themselves is an "improvement." In almost every single case, these chicks who do this to themselves were Perfectly Fine before, and everyone ends up saying so. So I don't see who's putting the pressure on them to mangle themselves. They all blame society, but after the fact, "society" always tells them they looked better before, so I don't buy it. I think they put it in their own head that something needs "fixing", and they should put that money towards therapy rather than elective surgery to fix what isn't broken.

If you don't like yourself, a new nose won't fix that, it's a band-aid on a bullet wound. These people need Help.


The difference between 2005 and 2007, wtf. I mean, granted caking on the makeup can really change a person, but she looks like she aged by about 8 years, not two. That can't only be makeup.


Cocaine is a helluva drug. "Allegedly".

[DarkFell]

2005 Meg was really cute.

[Leo656]

I even like her hair better with a more natural color. :ohwell:

Maybe I'm in the minority as far as guys go, but I tend to like girls as they are. Not that I wouldn't bang a "Barbie Doll" type, but I wouldn't pick one out of a line-up. Give me the god-given natural look every time.

[pennydreadful]

Even Angelina Jolie had plastic surgery so I don't see what the fuss is about. Both women are beautiful. :tlove:

If other women can look beautiful without changing anything, more power to them. If they want to change things, it's up to them. It's their own body.

Nobody's denying a woman's right to do whatever the hell she wants to her body - and if current-era Fox and Jolie get you moist, good for you. But let's not pretend that we don't live in a society that celebrates a blatantly unrealistic and completely unattainable standard of beauty.

Even the world's "most beautiful women" don't believe they're beautiful, pay through the nose to themselves carved up, and then we're told that this is artificial construction is what we're supposed to find attractive. It's madness, pure and simple. When did natural beauty become unfashionable?

Jolie and Fox were both already beautiful. Jessica Alba was beautiful already - she didn't need to get surgery to white-wash herself just so she could get more parts. People like you, who can't see the forest for the hard-on it gives them, are part of the problem.

"Girl Interrupted" and "Gia" have shown that Jolie was already a talented actress - she didn't need to turn herself into some plastic f*ck-flower to give her career a boost. She's an accomplished, intelligent woman who's achieved a great many things, including a great deal of humanitarian work. Yet she's still not content with herself as she is. What exactly does that say about where we are as a society - that we reject the natural and celebrate the artificial?

http://www.epicplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/angelina-jolie-before-after-nose-job-4.jpg

http://celebritysurgerynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/angelina-Jolie-cosmetic-surgery.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bKULqwF.jpg?1

http://www.epicplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/angelina-jolie-before-after-nose-job-2.jpg

[Bry]

Oh no, she's never had any work done at all.

I mean... I get that 10 years is a long time, and you can't compare someone at 18 to 28. Age happens. (Hell, at 18 I had a pretty decent head of shaggy hair that... just isn't ever happening again. :lol: ) And honestly, if someone chooses to get work done, that's their choice and I'm not gonna be the guy to judge them for it. People should have the right to do what they want to with their bodies.

But man. I'm shocked by just now natural she looked back then compared to now. Natural expression and smile. She looked real. And I'm not gonna pretend she's got much acting talent, but I've gotta wonder if she put as much money and time into improving her "craft" as she did toward altering her face and body with surgery, how different things might be right now.

[Leo656]

:( It hurts me because as a guy I know my "race" is culpable in all of this, but I genuinely can't stand seeing it happen time and time again. Like, it makes me want to stand on a rooftop and shout, "I appreciate you! Don't do this to yourselves!" :ohwell: But that's just me "saving strippers" and all that.

[IndigoErth]

Maybe I'm in the minority as far as guys go, but I tend to like girls as they are. Not that I wouldn't bang a "Barbie Doll" type, but I wouldn't pick one out of a line-up. Give me the god-given natural look every time.
And those that prefer to be as we are, or at least speaking for myself, appreciate it.

[Leo656]

It just sucks b/c most of my friends and family are girls, so I've always had to see/hear these things, and it makes me feel sad and helpless. Whether it's their looks or their weight or whatever. I'm like, "How can I make you feel pretty? PLEASE tell me how I can make you understand there's NOTHING wrong with you?!" "You can't, I don't like what I see." "But... But..." :cry:

I'm usually not the only one in their "ear" about it, either. I mean, MOST guys really don't care that much about looks, no matter what they say, when it comes down to it they'll mostly take whatever they can get. It's just, these magazines and sh*t make their money making girls feel insecure and I HATE that so many of them fall for it. I just wanna shake them and be like, "You're being manipulated by a corporation that doesn't care about your self-esteem and only wants to sell you product! You're beautiful and intelligent and you should know better than this!" It's heartbreaking.

[CyberCubed]

Goddamn, I just realized Megan Fox is almost the same age as me. Amazing how some people are filthy rich and I'm sitting here posting on a TMNT forum.

[IndigoErth]

Rich might be nice, but if I'd have to spend all my time earning it and have very little left over to 'waste' on things I love, like TMNT... Nah. I could settle for just being a bit better off, not so much that money becomes my life.

It's just, these magazines and sh*t make their money making girls feel insecure and I HATE that so many of them fall for it. I just wanna shake them and be like, "You're being manipulated by a corporation that doesn't care about your self-esteem and only wants to sell you product!
Stupid thing is you can't win either way. Even if you don't fall for it (*raises hand*), the massive amount who do just end up making you feel subpar in comparison. (I mean, I've even read catty stuff online aimed at women who don't wear makeup. Wtf.) The way society is though, unfortunately.

[Leo656]

Yeah, legit. I don't get that. We're all in this together, why the hell are chicks so catty and vicious to other chicks? Dudes don't do that. With dudes, it's like, "You're fat, bro." "Yessir, sir." "Okay, cool, just making sure you knew. Let's go get drunk and watch sportsball." "Awesome."

[Warhorse]

That sh*t is DEPRESSING, man. As a guy who appreciates the au natural types, just looking at that sh*t makes me irrationally angry. YOU WERE PRETTY, F***HEAD! Christ. I feel bad for her. She clearly has serious insecurities and self-esteem problems. Anyone who has THAT much work done clearly doesn't like themselves. Doesn't take a psych degree to see that.

First pic was by FAR the prettiest, not even a contest. Why do girls hate their freckles?! Fox, Lohan... I don't get it. Freckles are kind of "Cute Sexy". I love those kinds of little things that make girls unique. :ohwell:

This might be totally off base, but I've known several people who wanted to give Hollywood a shot, and the first thing they tell you in Hollywood, is to get yourself an agent, and the few that I knew, the agents first thing when considering you, is that you pretty much have to change everything about yourself, so it's possible she might have that kind of agent that is telling her that freckles are out, or that her nose is too big or that her skin isn't flawless enough, so they can't promise her work unless she goes under the knife. Actors aren't the only ones, the worst agents are the ones behind the girls that are on Olympic level gymnastics and figureskating regimes. Read the book Little Girls in Pretty Boxes. It's quite disturbing what these kids go through just to get a medal.

No sh*t, but they'd have to be delusional to look in the mirror and honestly think what they've done to themselves is an "improvement." In almost every single case, these chicks who do this to themselves were Perfectly Fine before, and everyone ends up saying so. So I don't see who's putting the pressure on them to mangle themselves. They all blame society, but after the fact, "society" always tells them they looked better before, so I don't buy it. I think they put it in their own head that something needs "fixing", and they should put that money towards therapy rather than elective surgery to fix what isn't broken.

If you don't like yourself, a new nose won't fix that, it's a band-aid on a bullet wound. These people need Help.

.

Agree with this. I'm looking at the recent photos of Renee Zellwegger, and she looks horrible compared to what she looked like before, which was actually cute. I don't know what she was thinking.

http://www.leekrausonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/renee-zellweger-before-after-lips-surgery.jpg

[pennydreadful]

Yeah, legit. I don't get that. We're all in this together, why the hell are chicks so catty and vicious to other chicks? Dudes don't do that. With dudes, it's like, "You're fat, bro." "Yessir, sir." "Okay, cool, just making sure you knew. Let's go get drunk and watch sportsball." "Awesome."

There's a quote which says "The genius of any slave system is found in the dynamics which isolate slaves from each other, obscure the reality of a common condition, and make united rebellion against the oppressor inconceivable."

Basically - if you encourage people to stay at one another's throats, they won't challenge the existing power structure, or analyze the problems inherent in their immediate environment.

Also a sentiment expressed in the notable film "The Warriors".

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[Ville Leskinen]

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[LeotheLateBloomer]

Sadly I have become one of those people who now dislike the movie. Outside the turtles' personalities and the CG graphical look, the rest of the movie falls flat on it's face. I now don't even want a sequel to this movie. Would any of you who don't like this movie, would you say that's better, worse or just as bad as TMNT 3 and why?

[Xiewin]

Sadly I have become one of those people who now dislike the movie. Outside the turtles' personalities and the CG graphical look, the rest of the movie falls flat on it's face. I now don't even want a sequel to this movie. Would any of you who don't like this movie, would you say that's better, worse or just as bad as TMNT 3 and why?

I would say that it's actually worse than TMNT III now.

At least the third movie had some heart, and a plot that you could make sense of. Oh and not the mention that turtles were the main characters of their own film rather than just some side characters to April 'O Neil.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

True but still doesn't change the fact that TMNT 3 is terrible, though. But you do have a point.

[IndigoErth]

Hard call. Only comparing those two films, they both lose some and win some, and lose a little more. I really hope these new films are working backwards in terms of quality, though I assume hell might have to freeze over in order for that to happen in the film industry.

[Xiewin]

True but still doesn't change the fact that TMNT 3 is terrible, though. But you do have a point.

Yeah TMNT III is still an awful movie though

[Gunpowder]

I still have yet to see TMNT III because I've heard absolutely nothing but terrible things about it, so I can't compare the two. I do plan on getting around to watching it in due time, but I'll have to put forth some willpower to do so.

By the way, one thing I did like other than the Turtles that I forgot to mention (talking about the 2014 movie) was Karai. I thought she was pretty well-executed and Minae Noji was one of the only good casting choices for the human characters. Although - it's been said numerous times already, but I'll say it again - she wasn't utilized enough and as a result seemed extremely empty. I think, had she gotten more screen time, she could have easily been one of the movie's highlights.

[pennydreadful]

You should check out TMNT 3 - it gets a lot more crap than it deserves, IMO.

[IndigoErth]

in due time
Movie that's been around almost 22 years... :tlol: Granted if it's older than you are then I guess I number of years can be forgiven. :P

Agree with Penny. It may not be what 1990 was, but it's still watchable. And at least they used their weapons again.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Let's just say if you did not enjoy the campiness of the second movie then it gets a lot worse in the third movie.

[IndigoErth]

TMNT 3 viewing test

Can you sit through Next Mutation?
Yes - Watch TMNT 3, no problem there.
Sorta - Watch TMNT 3 sometime when you're bored.
No - Consider watching when there's nothing else to do, you'll probably at least die a little less inside vs Next Mutation.
Hell no - Watch TMNT 1990.

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[Gunpowder]

Yeah, people often compare TMNT III to Next Mutation, and it's almost always a matter of "which one's worse?"...which dissuades me from trying either. :lol: But I do plan on giving both a shot eventually. SotO was pretty bad, I thought, but an enjoyable kind of bad. I imagine III and NM are similar (which LateBloomer bascially pointed out).

Movie that's been around almost 22 years... :tlol: Granted if it's older than you are then I guess I number of years can be forgiven. :P

Haha, well, I've only been a fan of the Turtles for a little over a year now. So that's my excuse... :tlol: