Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep11: "The Pig and the Rhino"

[Machias Banshee]

So... imagine my surprise when I go to check out TMNTMaster's tumbler for some sort of update about the show. The site's completely gone. :teek:

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So, we get our first taste of the new Bebop and Rocksteady. Plus, it seems Donnie's going to try and cure Karai with a dose of retro-mutagen. I'm sure Splinter will be pleased to have her cured, but I'm curious how April will feel - her father's still out there as a mutant. How much longer should he wait?

[JTH]

I hope everyone remembered last night was Daylight Savings.

Show starts in 30 minutes.

[TigerClaw]

Almost time for the episode.

[GoldMutant]

To quote Bowser: Showtime!!!

[TigerClaw]

Here we go!

[Vicky82]

Holy crap, what!!!!!! I didn't know that.

[TigerClaw]

That escalated quickly.

[CyberCubed]

"I like The Rocksteady."

[TigerClaw]

"I like The Rocksteady."
Meanwhile, Bebop hates his name.

[snake]

Very awesome episode.

[CyberCubed]

Pretty good episode and I like Bebop and Rocksteady in this incarnation. I loved the roller coaster and haunted house parts, it was a nice change of pace.

They were pretty humorous too and I liked how Leo tricked Rocksteady by not giving him his words.

[newhire13]

Nice, Bebop and Rocksteady are both credible threats but still not the sharpest tools in the box. Nice having them attack Shredder and establishing that Shredder could off them easily single handedly if he wanted. They'll definitely betray him if they can get the upper hand somehow however.

Plus Casey and Donnie actually works really well together now. Nice touch.

[lonewarrior20]

i really enjoyed it. the animators did a great job on the roller coaster scenes but...i really wanted karai to go back with the turtles instead of getting caught and brought to the shredder.

[TigerClaw]

What a great episode.

[xenopokemon]

I loved this episode, 9/10 for making me mad that the retromutagen didn't work. Bebop hates his name, great he's going to be like Baxter Stockman hating people that misname him. If any of you waited after the end of the episode, the Mighty Mutanimals are real! Slash, Leatherhead, Monkey Brains, and Pigeon Pete! HYPE!!!:lol:

[Vicky82]

I missed 10 mins of the episode but it was really good episode but sadly it's got overshadowed by Battle for New York as it was released early.

So Shredder has Karai now and it looks like he's going to manipulate her.

[pannoni1]

I don't post as much as I used to (avoiding the BoNY spoiler is a plus as I'm going to watch it later today), but will continue posting my opinions on each episode. Homages to He-Man during the and a mini-Leonardo vs. Tempestra ride during the coaster scene. Meanwhile, poor Karai at the end, the turtles didn't understand that the mutagen leaked and went into the sea or sewers somewhere. I almost feel like she might get put on a bus for awhile based on her reaction. Next week should be interesting with Slash, Leatherhead, and other "Mutanimals" against the Kraang, especially given it being a double episode. I like how Nick has handled Bebop & Rocksteady; conflicting personalities, not the dimwits they were in much of the OT, and Bebop in particular has more special powers (laser eyes and skating between buildings without needing a rope). We get a cheesy April damsel mixed in, but it was quite an enjoyable episode to watch.

Overall: 8.5/10

[evan2000]

Not bad, the new B&R seems to be competent though not having very bright minds. At least they completed their job for Shredder (yeah it's a bummer ending, but this is probably the best way to go for now)

I missed 10 mins of the episode but it was really good episode but sadly it's got overshadowed by Battle for New York as it was released early.

So Shredder has Kari now and it looks like he's going to manipulate her.

I recorded the episode, I'll send you the clip in a moment.

[xenopokemon]

I missed 10 mins of the episode but it was really good episode but sadly it's got overshadowed by Battle for New York as it was released early.

So Shredder has Karai now and it looks like he's going to manipulate her.

Welp. Guess I'm going to go watch that now.

[Xav]

So eh who was running that movie projector?
Homages to He-Man during the and a mini-Leonardo vs. Tempestra ride during the coaster scene. Meanwhile, poor Karai at the end, the turtles didn't understand that the mutagen leaked and went into the sea or sewers somewhere.Wha?

[RandomtasticFantasy]

I really liked this episode. Even more so than Battle for New York. The entire fight scene was great but I really enjoyed the roller coaster. Kinda annoyed that Kairi ended up captured by Shredder but all the same, interested to see where that will lead. I hope not back to her being a villain and dragging out her finally being a good guy (or an anti-hero).

As always, I lived Rocksteady and Bebop is finally starting to grow on me. I enjoyed that he hated his name and his talking to much being being a sort of weakness for him when he fights.

Shedder beating them both (and taking a rhino charge head on) was just...damn. I'm interested to see how the turtles will actually manage to defeat him.

[xenopokemon]

I really liked this episode. Even more so than Battle for New York. The entire fight scene was great but I really enjoyed the roller coaster. Kinda annoyed that Kairi ended up captured by Shredder but all the same, interested to see where that will lead. I hope not back to her being a villain and dragging out her finally being a good guy (or an anti-hero).

As always, I lived Rocksteady and Bebop is finally starting to grow on me. I enjoyed that he hated his name and his talking to much being being a sort of weakness for him when he fights.

Shedder beating them both (and taking a rhino charge head on) was just...damn. I'm interested to see how the turtles will actually manage to defeat him.

If you're anxious for the next episode, it's out right now on the Nick website!

[ssjup81]

If you're anxious for the next episode, it's out right now on the Nick website!Is there any other way to view the hour-special outside of Nick's site which can't work for me in a general sense? Neither Amazon nor iTunes seem to have them.

[Majcvd49]

What happened with April here? Did she get knocked out and captured or something? Judging from these comments at least.

[Huzzah]

So, Rocksteady seems a credible threat, with his strength and speed, I'm hoping they don't nerd these skills in future episodes like they did with Dogpound and later him a Rahzar. I'm sure they will though.

I'm personally hoping Karai, Bebop (or is it BeeBop ala the van) and Rocksteady form their own splinter faction. I don't expect we'll see Karai become a "good guy" any time soon. I mean all three of them have no reason to trust Shredder seeing as he is responsible, plus I'm sure Karai will be convinced that the Turtles are also responsible, as it seems that's the thought of Bebop and Rocksteady, so why not have a team against both sides.

Either that, or maybe have Tigerclaw leave the ranks and take a couple mutants with him, I don't see him following Shredder to terribly much longer, especially with Shredder seeming to be so one-tracked minded as of late.

Also, I laughed harder than probably appropriate when Bebop leveled the retro-mutagen gun and said, "Time for the Next Mutation." Referencing a terrible series (that I really liked) or referencing the original title for the thankfully never put into production 4th movie (though some of those designs did kind of creep into the 2014 Turtle designs). Either way, I laughed.

[CyberCubed]

Rocksteady and Bebop are awesome in this show. I love how Bebop says things like, "Homie," and, "Oh snap," and "Son" too, it keeps it real and reminds you who he is.

[Amaranthus]

Rocksteady and Bebop are awesome in this show. I love how Bebop says things like, "Homie," and, "Oh snap," and "Son" too, it keeps it real and reminds you who he is.

I'm waiting for people to start complaining about racial stereotypes.

[CyberCubed]

I'm waiting for people to start complaining about racial stereotypes.

Considering Rocksteady kept saying things like, "Da" and "Nyet" I don't see the problem. Rocksteady says Russian things and Bebop slang, its who they are.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Very fun episode, not much to say about this one, although Bebop's slang gets annoying after a while. 8/10.

[TigerClaw]

Anyone noticed the Warriors reference, When Bebop says. "Turtles! Why don't you come out and play!"

[Bitsy83]

I really liked this episode, too. I know people are complaining about B&R, but honestly, I like them better this way. I mean, better than being the incompetent nimrods they were in the old series. Rocksteady is pretty smart and has a great backstory other than just being a street thug and Bebop hating his name was great (I'd love to hear him shout "MAMAAA!" though)

Now....since Karai got captured, does this mean B&R are going to tell Shredder about the Retromutatgen? They didn't really figure out that it was DONNIE who made it, though. And, to be fair, Mikey was the one who perfected it, so will Donnie be taking the fall for it? Or will Shredder just capture all the Turtles and force it out of them or whatever. I really hope Shredder focuses on Donnie alone, though. I know we're all looking too much into it, but that "You mean nothing to me" line might be significant.

[Vicky82]

Calling it.

When the rumoured dark Raph story happens, Raph is captured and Karai will hypnotise him to turn against his brothers and join Shredder.

[CowabungaMikey]

Awesome ep!

But did anyone notice, when Leo attacked the cardboard thing in the ghosthouse, when he put back his sword, he already had 2 swords on his back :P

[Huzzah]

I noticed the two swords thing as well, but honestly it was small enough to easily be ignored.

[Donatello19]

This was an awesome episode, it finally feels like S3 is really starting up now. I absolutley love this new take on Bebop and Rocksteady! Anyone else catch the little Next Mutation reference? :P

Now I'm gonna go watch next week's episode on Nick's website! I'm so glad they put it up early.

[Victorsaurus]

What happened with April here? Did she get knocked out and captured or something? Judging from these comments at least.

What happened to her:
She and a few of the males get captured by Bebob and Rocksteady

I almost forgot about Splinter, his absence made me thing he was still missing. I love the roller coaster scenes.

[Syb3rStrife]

Really loved this episode, especially the rollercoaster fight scene. Definitely enjoying the new Bebop and Rocksteady as well. Looks like the turtles have finally found some formidable foes (besides shredder).

Also, nice to see Leo and Mikey team up for a change. :)

[Autbot_Benz]

Nick Bebop & Rocksteady are miles better than the fred wolf versions.

[ToTheNines]

Loved the carnival setting! The creepy vibe reminded me of IDW's Ghostbusters second arc, it wasn't Coney Island though... Poughkeepsie I think.

Rocksteady and Bebop had a great dynamic. I like Rocksteady better, I feel like they're just going too over the top with Bebop's crazy skill set, his high pitched squeels and stuff. I mean, where the hell did they even get the idea for all that whackiness?

The episode was kind of sad, and I'm definitely left wondering where Karai's arc is headed.

[Allio]

Nice episode, but I'll give the 2 one episode before they become fodder

[yellowmario27]

I enjoyed this episode! I think Leo's voice sounded really good here, he doesn't sound old anymore~
I don't want to over analyze anything but do you think the way Leo splits up the groups he has a reason or just random
April/Donnie cause he knows Donnie likes her?
Raph/Casey cause he knows they're good friends?

just wondering!

Also at the end, Shredder is like "we will cure you, and then have our revenge"
and i'm assuming he means on the turtles, but wasn't his fault Karai got mutated?

Or during the fight sequences did one of the turtles accidentally push her into the mutagen?

I don't remember :-?

[Vicky82]

IGN Review up.

8.5

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/03/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-pig-and-the-rhino-review

[Jephael]

This is by far my most favorite episode. Not only did I love the part with Mikey naming Bebop and Rocksteady, but I couldn't help but feel they provided some fan service to those of us who are aware that in the original cartoon Donatello and Leonardo's voice actors also played Bebop and Rocksteady. Then again I might be reading too much into it.

[DarkLightDragon]

Also at the end, Shredder is like "we will cure you, and then have our revenge"
and i'm assuming he means on the turtles, but wasn't his fault Karai got mutated?


Because he's still in denial of any wrongdoing. Admitting that it was his fault would require him to actually not scapegoat someone else for it.

[Huzzah]

I enjoyed this episode! I think Leo's voice sounded really good here, he doesn't sound old anymore~
I don't want to over analyze anything but do you think the way Leo splits up the groups he has a reason or just random
April/Donnie cause he knows Donnie likes her?
Raph/Casey cause he knows they're good friends?

just wondering!

Also at the end, Shredder is like "we will cure you, and then have our revenge"
and i'm assuming he means on the turtles, but wasn't his fault Karai got mutated?

Or during the fight sequences did one of the turtles accidentally push her into the mutagen?

I don't remember :-?

Yeah, he was the reason she was mutated. It was pretty much wholly his fault, but he's delusional at this point. Shredder's mind has kind of snapped and he's convinced himself that he always loved Karai as a daughter (despite using her as bait and locking her up in a cell), and the Turtles and Splinter are the sole reason they aren't a happy family. Shredder's skill set remain, but he's slowly losing his grip on reality in this situation, and he's become dangerously obsessive, which could either aid or abet him in future episodes. I'm convinced Tigerclaw has noticed this, and is very close to leaving the Shredder's service and I don't think he'll be leaving alone.

I mean when half of your Army (Bebop, Rocksteady, Karai and Baxter) all see Shredder as the cause for the way they are, that doesn't necessarily secure absolute loyalty, and his other two mutant henchmen have pretty much just become cannon fodder, Fish-Face particularly realizing that he has pretty much nothing to offer compared to the others, I don't see in real loyalty in Shredder's ranks. Rahzar may stay loyal, mostly because he's loyal to the Foot, but other than that, I see Shredder's support quickly deteriorating.

[Jephael]

Admitting that it was his fault would require him to actually not scapegoat someone else for it.

Man I hope when they bring in Renet we get to witness what exactly drove Shredder to this point. He's been evil in the past, but this time around he's just plain crazy.

[CyberCubed]

Its actually hard to believe Shredder now has 6 mutant henchmen:

- Rahzar
- Fishface
- Tiger Claw
- Baxter Stockman
- Bebop
- Rocksteady

Starting to feel a little crowded, which makes me wonder if someones is going to be bumped off at some point. I can see Fishface quitting and returning to the Purple Dragons.

[Jephael]

Its actually hard to believe Shredder now has 6 mutant henchmen:

- Rahzar
- Fishface
- Tiger Claw
- Baxter Stockman
- Bebop
- Rocksteady

Starting to feel a little crowded, which makes me wonder if someones is going to be bumped off at some point. I can see Fishface quitting and returning to the Purple Dragons.

Nah, I kinda like this group. It's way more diverse than it was in the old days. Besides we're getting the Mighty Mutanimals next episode, so there's bound to be an epic battle between both teams.

[CyberCubed]

Nah, I kinda like this group. It's way more diverse than it was in the old days. Besides we're getting the Mighty Mutanimals next episode, so there's bound to be an epic battle between both teams.

Yeah, its kinda funny how in the original toon Shredder/Krang never did get to build a mutant army, they just had Bebop/Rocksteady their entire run and that's it.

[Huzzah]

Its actually hard to believe Shredder now has 6 mutant henchmen:

- Rahzar
- Fishface
- Tiger Claw
- Baxter Stockman
- Bebop
- Rocksteady

Starting to feel a little crowded, which makes me wonder if someones is going to be bumped off at some point. I can see Fishface quitting and returning to the Purple Dragons.

I can see that happening with Fish-Face and the Shredder probably won't even care at that point, he's so focused on his vendetta. Tiger Claw will end up leaving I'm certain, and Bebop and Rocksteady are definitely not in it for the long haul, Steranko even said so, claiming they are with Shredder...for now...I don't see them hanging around too terrible long.

[kelligrafie]

Yeah, its kinda funny how in the original toon Shredder/Krang never did get to build a mutant army, they just had Bebop/Rocksteady their entire run and that's it.

There were other members of Bebop and Rocksteady's old gang that got mutated in various experiments that Shredder carried out. And we do see a picture of them on a computer monitor in one episode but I guess they probably scrapped them because of money/time constraints.

[Huzzah]

Plus I'd imagine they would've all been about the same level of smarts as Bebop and Rocksteady, and two dimwits is enough.

[ToTheNines]

I couldn't help but feel they provided some fan service to those of us who are aware that in the original cartoon Donatello and Leonardo's voice actors also played Bebop and Rocksteady. Then again I might be reading too much into it.

What do you mean? I didn't catch any reference to that.

[kelligrafie]

What do you mean? I didn't catch any reference to that.

Me neither - and - the turtle actors played a LOT of smaller roles alongside the turtles. Too many too mention, or pay homage to in a series two/three decades later I think.

[Amaranthus]

Because he's still in denial of any wrongdoing. Admitting that it was his fault would require him to actually not scapegoat someone else for it.

Am I the only one that thinks the Karai situation is getting frustrating?
What has happened to her so far:
-Shredder locks her in a cell
-She escapes, goes back, and gets mutated
-She gets captured again
I swear to god. If they make her evil again I'll lose my sh*t.

[Xav]

What happened to her:
She and a few of the males get captured by Bebob and RocksteadyWhat are you talking about? The only one they captured was Karai.

[CyberCubed]

Am I the only one that thinks the Karai situation is getting frustrating?
What has happened to her so far:
-Shredder locks her in a cell
-She escapes, goes back, and gets mutated
-She gets captured again
I swear to god. If they make her evil again I'll lose my sh*t.

Its also a repeat of the Kirby-bat storyline. April's father gets captured by the Kraang in Season 1 and the Turtles save him. Then he gets mutated into a bat and flies randomly around the city trying to track him down. Then he gets de-mutated. Only to get mutated again by the Kraang later in the season. Then he gets rescued and de-mutated AGAIN.

I think its because if Karai becomes "good" forever and returns to normal, the writers have no clue where to put her since she would logically stay in the lair with her father, Splinter. And they don't want that.

[Jephael]

What do you mean? I didn't catch any reference to that.

There were a couple moments where Don went up against Bebop and atleast one moment where Leo went up against Rocksteady. Like I said, I might've been just reading too much into it. Hell I get excited even when I see either of those pairs interact in a comic strip.

[IndigoErth]

Loved this one, esp the roller coaster (totally called it :P) and fun house, a lot of creativity in how this one was put together. But poor Karai, so sad just wanting to say goodbye. And then getting captured. :ohwell:

He wouldn't hit a lady... but he'd trip one. :lol:

Darn them though, now I have to really try to avoid what is or will probably be said about the next one that's posted early online since I'll wait for next weekend instead. :trazz:

[Jephael]

Am I the only one that thinks the Karai situation is getting frustrating?
What has happened to her so far:
-Shredder locks her in a cell
-She escapes, goes back, and gets mutated
-She gets captured again
I swear to god. If they make her evil again I'll lose my sh*t.

Good thing this is isn't a live action drama like the shows based on DC and Marvel characters, otherwise they'd probably "kill her off" and then bring her back a few episodes later.

[DarkLightDragon]

Am I the only one that thinks the Karai situation is getting frustrating?
What has happened to her so far:
-Shredder locks her in a cell
-She escapes, goes back, and gets mutated
-She gets captured again
I swear to god. If they make her evil again I'll lose my sh*t.

Oh, you're definitely not the only one.

It's like the writers really didn't want her becoming an ally just yet, so they decided to have mutated (which is *the* biggest solution for making any character more significant now that I think about it) and throw in the "struggling between staying sane and going feral" angle so she'd be a wild card that everyone will fight over more than before.

Because who wants closure, amirite?

[Gunstar_Red]

Finally a Season 3 episode I was satisfied watching (other than the end). My random thoughts: I too loved the Leo and Mikey team up, I thought it was a little odd Donnie and Raph were knocked out so easily, and I love Leo's expression when Mikey was happy that they were going to the rollercoaster site (Leo, you're too soft on Mikey ^_^). Oh, that next mutation comment was out of nowhere but perfect. Heh.

Now I'm going to watch 'Battle for New York' before my lunch break is over...

[OrangeNinja1987]

Great episode. It was just all around great, and it was amazing how much action and story they stuffed into about twenty minutes. My only complaint is how Bebop and Rocksteady acted towards Shredder at the beginning. They were furious for being mutated and then after Shredder hits them a couple times, Rocksteady says, "Okay, we're on your side." Even though it was shown that Shredder's skill is superior, I don't think they'll be loyal to him very long. Heck, they weren't even that loyal this episode, because they first wanted to hunt down the turtles instead of Karai.
Leo was great this episode. Lately, since they returned to NYC, I've been thinking he was too stiff, but he loosened up a bit this episode. "You has my word." :lol: Also, his smile when he was going down on the cart towards Rocksteady was perfect.
Not much else to say. Just where was Splinter?

[ToTheNines]

I was kind of annoyed that they were lazy and had Coney Island be in Manhattan on that map in the beginning when it's actually way south in Brooklyn. And like someone else said, why the hell was a movie being shown at the Argosy?

Nitpicking, I know. But still.

[Jephael]

I was kind of annoyed that they were lazy and had Coney Island be in Manhattan on that map in the beginning when it's actually way south in Brooklyn. And like someone else said, why the hell was a movie being shown?

Nitpicking, I know. But still.

Well keep in mind this isn't meant to be a realistic interpretation of New York like 4Kids went out of their way to make. As for the movie theater, a friend who works at the local Regal Cinema told me that most film projectors are set on a timer these days and play by themselves so maybe one could argue the case that the marathon was planned way in advance.

[neatoman]

It was nice with a a few new sets and it was nice to see Bebop and Rocksteady greatly reimagined from those worthless morons they once were, still don't quite see the point of introducing them though.

[Fang Wolf]

I kind like this Ep.
Oh Yeah, I like bebop's Michael Jackson dance...:tsmile:

Oh No!
Karai is take back to Shredder!

[VaughnMichael]

This was one of my favorite episodes of the season so far.
I really was hoping ice cream kitty was going to get turned back to normal when the mutagen was spraying all over though.
The rollercoaster part was fantastic!
And I really like Rocksteady in this series, Anton not so much...he's kind of annoying.
I hope we do get more of them though and that they're not just more background mutants like many of the others have become.
The end with Karai was pretty sad, I hated seeing her in that cage.

[Huzzah]

Ice Cream Kitty doesn't ever need to be de-mutated. She's adorable as is, and was ragged looking prior. I was afraid she was going to get splashed and de-mutate, which would've been devastating.

[SophieDem]

Still love Zack. I mean Bebop. :D And the communist Rocksteady was just hilarious but the more I get to know their personality the more I love them. Honestly, they are more badass then Rahzar and Fishface, or is it just me?

It was sad to see Karai say goodbye and Leo trying her to stop. That broke my heart.

I just want that poor girl to have a normal life after those tortures. I hope one day she'll reunite with her family.

[CyberCubed]

And I really like Rocksteady in this series, Anton not so much...he's kind of annoying.
I hope we do get more of them though and that they're not just more background mutants like many of the others have become.


My only problem with Bebop is the high-pitched squeals the voice actor does when he finishes his lines, but other than that he's fine.

I love how Rocksteady is like a tank now. It brings back memories of the NES games when I was 5 years old and had trouble beating Rocksteady because he kept kicking me over and over. lol.

[xenopokemon]

My only problem with Bebop is the high-pitched squeals the voice actor does when he finishes his lines, but other than that he's fine.


It gets old pretty fast but at least he and Rocksteady mean business in this generation. They aren't stupid but at the same time they will butt heads sometimes.

[Huzzah]

I'm hoping the whole Karai situation plays out that after her inevitable brain wash, she'll regain complete control of her mutation, sacrificing the cure for some noble cause, tell the Turtles and Splinter how much they appreciated all they tried to do for, but she has to go out and figure where her place in the world is, assuring that she'll return at some point. Thus there is closure, she's not forced into an April like position of just being there, and there's no more back and forth. We lose her as a regular character, but save her from becoming completely annoying. Plus it will give the animators a reason to reuse the animation model of her in the jacket, dressed casual, when she first met April.

[CyberCubed]

I'm hoping the whole Karai situation plays out that after her inevitable brain wash, she'll regain complete control of her mutation, sacrificing the cure for some noble cause, tell the Turtles and Splinter how much they appreciated all they tried to do for, but she has to go out and figure where her place in the world is, assuring that she'll return at some point. Thus there is closure, she's not forced into an April like position of just being there, and there's no more back and forth. We lose her as a regular character, but save her from becoming completely annoying. Plus it will give the animators a reason to reuse the animation model of her in the jacket, dressed casual, when she first met April.

I just wish they would get rid of the snake mutation entirely. Its not that unlikely since they got rid of Kirby-bat after only a handful of appearances.

[neatoman]

My only problem with Bebop is the high-pitched squeals the voice actor does when he finishes his lines, but other than that he's fine.

He's a pig, pigs tend to squel, I like it.

[Huzzah]

I just wish they would get rid of the snake mutation entirely. Its not that unlikely since they got rid of Kirby-bat after only a handful of appearances.

I'm fine with the snake mutation, provided she was able to regularly take on the appearance of Karai, albeit with more snake-like eyes, and it was a form that she could actively change into, but tends to avoid due to the fact it kind of messes with her mind.

[BubblyShell22]

Loved this episode. I thought the rollercoaster scene was awesome and the best scene out of all of them. Loved the haunted house, too. I had a feeling Karai's mutation wouldn't get resolved, and I was right. I had tears in my eyes when she said, "I just wanted to say goodbye to you all." And now she's been captured by Shredder and will most likely get brainwashed. Loved how Mikey named Bebop and Rocksteady and how Bebop hates his name. The Next Mutation reference had me laughing, too. Overeall, a very good episode. Can't wait for next week's though I will visit the thread because I'm a glutton for punishment.

[nimajneb]

Really good Ep. The turtles in fine form!
The new interpretations of Bebop and Rocksteady are great,the vocal actors have really captured b&r - the playmate figure needs a drastic reprint for it to look like a true likeness though.
I loved the whole theme park fight. Really great animation

[THGhost]

Link me up anyone? :tcool:

[Karai Samurai]

I'm waiting for people to start complaining about racial stereotypes.

Eh. It's not stereotypes, but dated TV tropes I'll complain about. This show is super 80s obsessed, even down to the way it presents its characters. Rocksteady threw a sickle and randomly interjects in Russian. Bebop is a Michael Jackson wannabe who calls people homie. I'm black and the youngest person I've ever heard use the word homie was like at minimum 35. It's super dated.

But I'm nitpicking. Decent episode, the roller coaster scene was top notch, as with all of the fight scenes this season. I can't be the only one who finds Bebop and Rocksteady a rehash of Shredder's other mutant henchmen. Bebop has the same scrawny build and acrobatic fight style as Xever/Fishface. Rocksteady is brute force and raw power just like Tigerclaw and Rahzar. Rocksteady even used Mickey as a wager exactly like how Tigerclaw did in the Manhattan Project. I do like the characters, but I wish they were a bit more original. April was less annoying, although I didn't like the fact that she held her own more than Donnie did against Bebop. Seemed a bit unrealistic. And ugh, just hurry up and demutate Karai already! I'm so tired of the melodrama. I just want to see her be her badass self again.

But once again I'm nitpicking. I like this episode. Kudos to whoever guessed the Coney Island thing.

[TigerClaw]

Link me up anyone? :tcool:
Unfortunately, Nick hasn't posted that episode online yet, Only next weeks.

[Powder]

Enjoyable & all, but I really wish they hadn't bothered including B&R in this series.

[THGhost]

Unfortunately, Nick hasn't posted that episode online yet, Only next weeks.

Odd. That's okay, found a download for it now.

[Jester]

Have I mentioned how much I love Crognard?

[shredder orokusaki]

Those new Bebop and Rocksteady are the best! They are much more powerful than Chris and Xever. They completed their mission while Xever and Chris kept failing me again and again! I WON!! Now i have Karai again!!

[Jester]

Those new Bebop and Rocksteady are the best! They are much more powerful than Chris and Xever. They completed their mission while Xever and Chris kept failing me again and again! I WON!! Now i have Karai again!!
To quote 4Kids Raph:
"Geeze, where's your off switch!"

You'd think a thread calling for you to be banned would make it so you knock off the RPing in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD.

[Powder]

Those new Bebop and Rocksteady are the best! They are much more powerful than Chris and Xever. They completed their mission while Xever and Chris kept failing me again and again! I WON!! Now i have Karai again!!

You are cancer.

[Autbot_Benz]

Those new Bebop and Rocksteady are the best! They are much more powerful than Chris and Xever. They completed their mission while Xever and Chris kept failing me again and again! I WON!! Now i have Karai again!!

http://i59.tinypic.com/2i8zntx.png fail in a half shell. God this guy is mental

[CyberCubed]

Enjoyable & all, but I really wish they hadn't bothered including B&R in this series.

They were already absent in 4kids, I'm glad to have them back now instead of waiting for a theoretical 4th TMNT cartoon years from now.

I mean not counting IDW since its not a show, Bebop/Rocksteady hadn't appeared from 1994-2009 until Turtles Forever, and then went from 2009-2015 till their next appearance.

[Powder]

& some of us were more than fine with that.

[Mugic]

Is he really trying to troll? I'm not on this site that much so i haven't seen all of his posts but is his imitation of Shredder really that bad enough to warrant a ban?

[snake]

& some of us were more than fine with that.

This. I could care less about B&R in another cartoon. IDW I'm fine with, because they got them down perfectly.

[CyberCubed]

& some of us were more than fine with that.

But I love them.

[DarkLightDragon]

But I love them.


And all must cater to you and you alone.

All must bow to you.

I just won't, if that's okay with everybody.

[snake]

But I love them.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/54353/1773176-hercules___thumbs_up_2.jpg

Good for you!

[Jester]

"Ah man! How'd you find me?"
"'Cause you don't shut up!"

[TigerClaw]

IGN gave this episode an 8.5
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-pig-and-the-rhino-review

[THGhost]

Finally got to see it.


Love the new Bebop & Rocksteady and that they kept their original personalities - too bad Bebop is still pretty annoying :p.
I totally called it that Mikey would give them their names; not Shredder or Stockman. People here gave very detailed explanations as to why either of them should name them, but it was always gonna be Mikey. C'mon!
The rollercoaster fight was awesome!
"It's time for the next mutation." Really? :lol:


Great episode, can't wait for the next one.

[turtle1237]

Anyone noticed the Warriors reference, When Bebop says. "Turtles! Why don't you come out and play!"

Yeah that really goes back.

[turtle1237]

Enjoy it. Loved the return of Bebop and Rocksteady. I man loved these guys, but the originals will always have a place in my heart.

Kinda of shock no one mention the monsters cameo. Frankiestine, Wolfman, Creature of the black Lagoon, I was seeing this and was like OMG. Being a big fan of the 1930's monsters movies, I was shock to see the monsters here.

[Jephael]

My only problem with Bebop is the high-pitched squeals the voice actor does when he finishes his lines, but other than that he's fine..

I'll admit I kinda agree. Speaking of which, I can't believe I haven't brought this up, but the guy who plays Anton Zeck was Will Arnett's co-star in The Millers, which premiered just a year before the Bay TMNT movie came out. So you basically had Vernon Fenwick and Bebop (pre-mutation) as buddies!!!

http://www.trbimg.com/img-528fa3d0/turbine/la-et-ct-tv-ratings-millers-crazy-ones-rise-x--002/599/599x404

[TigerClaw]

I can't believe I haven't brought this up, but the guy who plays Anton Zeck/Bebop was Will Arnett's co-star in The Millers, which premiered just a year before the Bay TMNT movie came out. So you basically had Vernon Fenwick and Bebop as buddies!!!
You mean J.B. Smoove, He was from Curb Your Enthusiasm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Smoove

[ranger_scout]

Really entertaining episode today. Having the two most iconic henchmen of the franchise, Bebop and Rocksteady, in this series brought back great memories. I really enjoyed seeing Leo and Mikey working together and coming to the rescue as well. I'll probably see the next episode online if I have time this week. If not I'll wait till next Sunday.

[senpai]

I loved the squeals Bebop was doing :D Then again, I just really like pigs.

[Ninturtle]

This episode was fantastic. I liked how Bebop and Rocksteady are competent yet funny.

[RedOnYellow]

Great seeing Leo and Mikey pairing up. Bebop and Rocksteady are lovable. I especially love how much of a tank Rocksteady comes off as. Hopefully they don't start jobbing a few episodes down the line.

As for Karai, a lot of us called it that the retromutagen wouldn't work on her a long while back. I was hoping that'd lead to them searching for some alternative or a way to calm her mind, but instead she ended up getting captured by Shredder AGAIN.

It's like, damn, I love you show creators, but REALLY?

[Orochi]

You mean J.B. Smoove, He was from Curb Your Enthusiasm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Smoove

"Get in that ass, Larry." I loved JB Smoove as Leon in Curb your Enthusiasm.

[Donny's computer84]

The episode had a good excitement like the new TV show the Turtles have. I like how a Mikey also named Bebop and Rocksteady. Great episode. :tcool:

[Klunk1234]

Very good episode! The action was unstoppable and Bebop and Rocksteady didn't look dumb like in the original series. They actually fought the Shredder. The boys did the best to cure Karai, but the retromtagen didn't work on Karai. I hope Donnie creates a better one to turn Karai back to normal. Mikey was great by naming Bebop and Rocksteady, although the former hate it. And Rocksteady didn't lose his Russian accent.

Was sad that Karai ended up being capture by the Shredder. I wonder what he is going to do with her.

[Jester]

Very good episode! The action was unstoppable and Bebop and Rocksteady didn't look dumb like in the original series. They actually fought the Shredder. The boys did the best to cure Karai, but the retromtagen didn't work on Karai. I hope Donnie creates a better one to turn Karai back to normal. Mikey was great by naming Bebop and Rocksteady, although the former hate it. And Rocksteady didn't lose his Rusdian accent.

Was sad that Karai ended up being capture by the Shredder. I wonder what he is going to do with her.

The episode had a good excitement like the new TV show the Turtles have. I like how a Mikey also named Bebop and Rocksteady. Great episode. :tcool:
Here's a little trick, if you don't want mods to know you have 2 separate accounts, maybe wait a bit between posting back to back replies in the same thread.

Also, make sure that when you send messages via each other's profile, you use the right name.

[Klunk1234]

Here's a little trick, if you don't want mods to know you have 2 separate accounts, maybe wait a bit between posting back to back replies in the same thread.

Also, make sure that when you send messages via each other's profile, you use the right name.

I only have one account, Jester. Donny and I are two different persons that got registered the same day. :) We know each other in real life. In fact, I have more posts than he has. What make you think that I have two accounts? Posting our comments next to each other doesn't mean anything. I hope that clarified your doubts.

[Jester]

I have only one account. Donny and I are two different persons that registered the same day. :)
With the same IP address? Also:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Whoops..png

[Garfield]

I'm digging The Rocksteady. He stole the show for me. I like that he was an incredible power house. Kudos to the Warrior reference. A fun episode.

[Jester]

I'm digging The Rocksteady. He stole the show for me. I like that he was an incredible power house. Kudos to the Warrior reference. A fun episode.
Yeah of the two I dig Rocky. I do like that Zeck won't be called Bebop. It's a nice touch.

[Klunk1234]

With the same IP address? Also:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Whoops..png

We registered using the same computer. Why does it matter to you? I don't know too much about computers, he does. You can ask Donny, if you want. I'm sorry, I can't answer these types of questions.:ohwell: Good night, Jester.

[Jester]

We registered using the same computer. Does it matter to you? I don't know much about computers, he does. You can ask Donny, if you want. I'm sorry, I can't answer these types of questions.:ohwell:
Because, it's against the forum rules to have multiple accounts. And part of my job as a mod is to enforce the rules.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah of the two I dig Rocky. I do like that Zeck won't be called Bebop. It's a nice touch.

He's probably going to accept the Bebop name eventually.

[Jester]

He's probably going to accept the Bebop name eventually.
I hope not...

[CyberCubed]

I hope not...

It'll be too awkward. They're not going to call themselves "Rocksteady and Zeck" for example.

Eventually Bebop will just accept it I suppose.

[Jester]

It'll be too awkward. They're not going to call themselves "Rocksteady and Zeck" for example.

Eventually Bebop will just accept it I suppose.
I'm sure Shredder will continue to call them Zeck and Steranko, because he never stopped calling Bradford and Xever by their names.

Also...just realized that Steranko is most likely named for comic artist Jim Steranko, the man who drew Nick Fury back in the 60's.

[CaliperCat]

This was a really fun episode. I like the groups everyone got split into, since they were out of the norm. Leo and Mikey was especially nice to see, since they seem to interact with each other the least out of almost all of the characters. Maybe Leo was hoping some of his maturity might rub off on Mikey?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who disliked haunted house-type-setups as much as Mikey and Donnie seemed to.

It was probably unintentional, but I found it ironic that Greg Cipes' character ended up chasing someone through a hall of mirrors again. Granted, the mirrors here actually survived the encounter, unlike when Beast Boy was trying to track down Slade, but I still thought it was pretty cool.

I'm happy Zeck still acts like Zeck, and I loved the roller coaster battle scene. I think it's one of the coolest battles the show has ever had. I love how they handled Karai as well, at least up until she got captured again- I think it would've been more fun if the turtles would've had to keep tracking her down to test new retro mutagens on her, and each time a little more of her mind had gone.

[Noxonius]

Great episode. I knew Mikey was going to name Bebop and Rocksteady. Like said, I think that Shredder has too many mutants now. I think Rahzar and Fishface should be offed at some point...they're pretty boring nowadays. What are Mutanimals? I've never heard of these.

[victory_angel]

Great episode. I knew Mikey was going to name Bebop and Rocksteady. Like said, I think that Shredder has too many mutants now. I think Rahzar and Fishface should be offed at some point...they're pretty boring nowadays. What are Mutanimals? I've never heard of these.

The Mutanimals is a portmanteau of "Mutant Animals." They were an assorted crew of mutants who were ally's of the Turtles that existed in the Archie Comics. They had a short lived spin off and a seven issue arc in the Archie comics before they were all killed.

[neatoman]

Enjoyable & all, but I really wish they hadn't bothered including B&R in this series.

Yeah I agree, Shredder already has a bunch of mutant henchmen so their introduction feels forced.

They were already absent in 4kids, I'm glad to have them back now instead of waiting for a theoretical 4th TMNT cartoon years from now.

I mean not counting IDW since its not a show, Bebop/Rocksteady hadn't appeared from 1994-2009 until Turtles Forever, and then went from 2009-2015 till their next appearance.

So what? They're not essential characters, they're just disposable henchmen, they have always been disposable henchmen.

[kelligrafie]

Great episode. I knew Mikey was going to name Bebop and Rocksteady. Like said, I think that Shredder has too many mutants now. I think Rahzar and Fishface should be offed at some point...they're pretty boring nowadays. What are Mutanimals? I've never heard of these.

Rahzar and Fishface are only boring because they never get any quality screen time, they're usually in the background.

Fishface was actually quite good in the dream quest episode even though he barely featured. His fight with Raph was my favourite aspect.

[ShelleyQuick]

This episode fun. Probably my favorite of season 3 so far.

[Klunk1234]

Because, it's against the forum rules to have multiple accounts. And part of my job as a mod is to enforce the rules.

A moderator. It figures. Then what you want me to do? If you want, I can post separately for him. I came to this forum to comment the episodes of the current show, not to have this argument. And I told you, that this the ONLY account that I have. Sorry for the caps.

[THGhost]

I'm sure Shredder will continue to call them Zeck and Steranko, because he never stopped calling Bradford and Xever by their names.

Plus Shredder wasn't there when Mikey named B&R, so this makes sense. It may have worked in the 80s series, but hearing the Nick Shredder call them that would sound silly. :P

A moderator. It figures. Then what you want me to do? If you want, I can post separately for him. I came to this forum to comment the episodes of the current show, not to have this argument. And I told you, that this the ONLY account that I have. Sorry for the caps.

Well you could keep this argument outside of this thread, just sayin'. ;)

[DVD]

Just finished watching. I thought it was a lot of fun. BB n RS were great, and the whole episode seemed to zip along at 100 miles an hour.
The dialogue was witty, and it was a nice touch to have RockSteady very happy to have his new name, whilst Bebop thought it was totally stupid and annoying. I think that was the writers way of getting in touch with their audience who would be divided over the inclusion of these two icons from the original show.

[Klunk1234]

Plus Shredder wasn't there when Mikey named B&R, so this makes sense. It may have worked in the 80s series, but hearing the Nick Shredder call them that would sound silly. :P



Well you could keep this argument outside of this thread, just sayin'. ;)

Yes. I know that, but he/she started it, first, so you also have to tell him/her that. ;)

[Amaranthus]

Yes. I know that, but he/she started it, first, so you also have to tell him/her that. ;)

You do realize you're fooling no-one, right?

[THGhost]

Yes. I know that, but he/she started it, first, so you also have to tell him/her that. ;)

I try not to argue with mods, they have magic powers y'know. ;)

You do realize you're fooling no-one, right?

It's funny how his other account isn't here defending him. :P

[TigerClaw]

Here is the TMNT Fansite's review of this episode, Had to use a url shortener, For some reason, the forum is still blocking the url for it.
The site gave this episode a 7.5
http://tinyurl.com/kfypvec

[Klunk1234]

:roll:You do realize you're fooling no-one, right?

No one asked for your opinion.

[Klunk1234]

[QUOTE=THGhost;1430268]I try not to argue with mods

[Amaranthus]

:roll:

No one asked for your opinion.

No one asked for you to use a 2nd account either.

[Ravenshell]

Corny and hella old school, but I really want a "get moose and skvirrel" line from Rocksteady now. *L*

[Vicky82]

One thing that puzzled me, it was strange that the movie theatre was still showing movies and with the power out too (unless it had it's own generator)

I wonder if the Kraang kept the theatre open so they go see a movie on there break :lol:

I wonder if that black and white movie was foreshadowing something thats going to happen in the future.

[Klunk1234]

No one asked for you to use a 2nd account either.

I DON'T HAVE A 2ND ACCOUNT! :x Leave me alone.

[saber16]

I'm sure Shredder will continue to call them Zeck and Steranko, because he never stopped calling Bradford and Xever by their names.


I could see Steranko insisting others address them as "Bebop and Rocksteady." And if there's one person Zeck won't question calling him Bebop, it's Shredder.

Plus Shredder wasn't there when Mikey named B&R, so this makes sense. It may have worked in the 80s series, but hearing the Nick Shredder call them that would sound silly. :P

It sounds to silly? Any sillier than a rhino man and a mohawked warthog fighting overgrown bandanna wearing turtles?
Truthfully, if anyone could make these names sound badass, it's this incarnation of Shredder.


Corny and hella old school, but I really want a "get moose and skvirrel" line from Rocksteady now. *L*

I can't believe I caught that reference. Well, I can thank my father for introducing me to said moose and squirrel.

[Huzzah]

Corny and hella old school, but I really want a "get moose and skvirrel" line from Rocksteady now. *L*

Monty Moose/Squirrelanoid future team up. Why the heck not?

[xenopokemon]

Monty Moose/Squirrelanoid future team up. Why the heck not?

Because Squirrelanoids aren't sentient and can't talk. It'd make more sense for them to make a feral moose-creature and then there's an infestation of squirrelanoids and that moose-creature.

[Huzzah]

I honestly put no legit thought into the comment, I just tried to pull two TMNT characters in existence (despite separate toylines) to give the "Moose and Squirrel" moment.

[xenopokemon]

Sorry about that ^^'

[TurtleTitan97]

Pretty great episode. Bebop & Rocksteady were actually pretty awesome! Glad the writers decided to make them different from their OT counterparts.

[THGhost]

It sounds to silly? Any sillier than a rhino man and a mohawked warthog fighting overgrown bandanna wearing turtles?
Truthfully, if anyone could make these names sound badass, it's this incarnation of Shredder.

Point taken. :lol:

[Huzzah]

Sorry about that ^^'

It's all good. No harm, no fowl (as in Ace Duck)...wait, no, that pun made no sense here...

[victory_angel]

Anyone notices that Rocksteady steps on the retromutagen and nothing happens. It is largely possible that he only stepped on the container and never officially touched the substance itself. But it could it also possible that Retromutagen doesn't effect the mutagen as it is now.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah of the two I dig Rocky. I do like that Zeck won't be called Bebop. It's a nice touch.

Whenever someone calls Rocksteady Rocky, I always flash back to Turtles At The Earth's Core where Krang uses that nickname while they're throwing that crystal around. hehe And Anton just sounded so hurt by his new nickname. That was priceless. I also liked the two actually giving Mikey time to think them up! Sucked that the diversion failed, however.

I loved this episode. Neat to see things picking up where they left off. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who teared up when Karai was saying her goodbyes, even though we all know things will probably end up okay. B and R were pretty competent for a change! These two haven't disappointed me so far. I wonder what's to become of that retro-mutagen. Hope none of the turtles end up demutated. As for next week's episode, I suppose I'll have to wait until amazon gets it. Can't wait for BFNY. I plan on watching that one while enjoying a pizza. Hurry up already, next Monday. This is one of those times when I sort of wish I still had cable. I'm very tempted to read the Battle For New York thread but I'll be good. Man, being good is for the pigeons.

[Darth Knuckles]

Yeah I'm just glad this version of Bebop and Rocksteady are more competent this time around. I've always wanted them to seem a little more dangerous against the turtles as villains. At least they seem to be more of a threat than previous incarnations.

[saber16]

Yeah I'm just glad this version of Bebop and Rocksteady are more competent this time around. I've always wanted them to seem a little more dangerous against the turtles as villains. At least they seem to be more of a threat than previous incarnations.

Yeah, they're formidable opponents while at the same their goofy in their own ways. They joke around, show off, bicker and fighter with one another, but at the same time they can take the turtles head on, pick up clues on where their enemy is going, ambush and capture them - they even managed to catch Karai in no time when Shredder's top ranks couldn't even locate her after months.

So far, this is easily my favorite incarnation of the two yet.

[BubblyShell22]

Anyone notices that Rocksteady steps on the retromutagen and nothing happens. It is largely possible that he only stepped on the container and never officially touched the substance itself. But it could it also possible that Retromutagen doesn't effect the mutagen as it is now.

His foot was mostly on the container, so likely the retro-mutagen didn't touch him and thus didn't affect him.

But I do agree that they're more competent now, and I think it's going to be a slap in the face to Rahzar and Fishface that these two were able to capture Karai while Rahzar and Fishface kept failing. I wonder if Shredder will keep his promise and make them answer to Tiger Claw. Though I do think one of them may turn on him.

[METALHEAD]

Enjoy it. Loved the return of Bebop and Rocksteady. I man loved these guys, but the originals will always have a place in my heart.

Kinda of shock no one mention the monsters cameo. Frankiestine, Wolfman, Creature of the black Lagoon, I was seeing this and was like OMG. Being a big fan of the 1930's monsters movies, I was shock to see the monsters here.

I did!! I watched the old universal films in my teens as away to get away from the harshness of highschool. It made squeal to see reference to my fave fandom of all time! It was just great to get a nod to them. Someone is a monsterkid in the studio eh? Anyway...It was greatly enjoyed by a classic monster fan like me.

[blindturtle02]

His foot was mostly on the container, so likely the retro-mutagen didn't touch him and thus didn't affect him.

But I do agree that they're more competent now, and I think it's going to be a slap in the face to Rahzar and Fishface that these two were able to capture Karai while Rahzar and Fishface kept failing. I wonder if Shredder will keep his promise and make them answer to Tiger Claw. Though I do think one of them may turn on him.

I'd forgotten about Rahzar and Fishface. Hopefully we'll see them in Battle For New York. It's got to be crazy at Shredder's lair with all those mutants hanging around. Oh, I liked that line they put in there about Baxter fixing Bebop's stealth suit. Almost forgot about that.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I just watched the episode today. I thought it was really well-done. I loved the bit where Leo and Mike endure the funhouse as well as them and Raph riding the roller coaster while avoiding Rocksteady. And I love when Bebop hated his nickname. It made me laugh so hard because it felt like it took another shot at the OT for it's corniness. The Karai bits made me so sad though, especially the ending. But she was right about losing control since she attacked a rat at the end of the episode.

Rocksteady for me is a huge improvement over his OT counterpart. He's actually a threat this time and I think his voice actor does a better job than Cam Clarke did (no offense to Cam). Bebop on the other hand is just annoying. The guy only does close combat when he's invisible. Outside the Tron-like powers, there's nothing going for him as a warthog.

Good episode, probably one of my favorites of this season.

[drgon78]

Good episode, it is nice to see Rocksteady and Bebop back in action after all these years.

[Ninjinister]

Wow, that was legitimately sad. I expected Mikey to ruin the "departure of Karai" scene with a dumb joke or something but he was serious throughout that entire part.

[Nasubionna]

I loved the hell out of this episode. I adore Bebop and Rocksteady, and it makes me kind of sad that lots of people seem to dislike Bebop in this incarnation… I personally think he's super funny and I like his design and the way his physique contrasts with Rocksteady. It carries over from the differences in their physiques as humans, and also rhinoceros vs. warthog. Besides, I like that he's more of a ranged stealth/tech fighter/tracker as opposed to both him and Rocksteady being huge burly bruisers. Plus, his warthog mutation does have advantages other than brute strength: like he said himself, his piggy nose is better than a bloodhounds.
Love both of their voice actors performances, and that Sterenko seems to be psychologically dealing with his mutation a bit better than Zeck is (which I didn't see coming). I loved Rocksteady's smile at being called "rad" by Casey, and the thought of Steranko doing pilates made me laugh out loud. I cracked up at Bebop hating his nickname, and that his biggest weakness seems to be his inability to keep his mouth shut while fighting, haha! They are both funny, I love their bickering and camaraderie, but they are also legit threats to the turtles. I hope they stay that way for awhile.
Sad turn of events for Karai… I do wonder what will happen with her now.
Overall, this is probably my favorite episode this season, though Serpent Hunt and In Dreams come close.

[FlawedCoil82]

I am not a fan of Zeck/Bebop. All those Michael Jackson "hee hee"s are getting super annoying. Rocksteady is pretty cool though!

[Stacebob]

I dunno about you, but I absolutely adored this episode. I loved Bebop and Rocksteady back in the 80s show, and even though the Nick versions are quite far removed, they're still chuffing brilliant! J.B. Smoove is completely killing it as Bebop; his line delivery is top notch and the dialogue he's been given is great. Love both their new looks and the weird-but-kinda-cute friendship they seem to have, and I must say, Bebop's lasers are pretty darn sweet. Nice to see that they both seem to have gained a few brain cells since the original show!

On top of that, it was great to see Donnie and Casey working together again; as much as I adore Donnie (and that's a lot), I find his infatuation with April difficult to stomach, given that it can't go anywhere (pretty sure a kid's show isn't going to have a young girl date a mutant turtle anytime soon! :P), so I like when Donnie stops butting heads with Casey.

Cor, Shredder's going a bit bananas, eh? Loved that he took Rocksteady's rhino-rush completely in his stride, like the complete awesome bada** that he is!

[B-Man]

This felt like an itch finally scratched. So happy to have B & R finally in the show properly. Even just hearing their names said out loud made me grin.

(also, Shredder turning Zeck into a warthog & then punching him in the stomach seconds later is reeeally effed up)

[DarkFell]

I'm not gonna lie; I enjoyed the rollercoaster ride / fight scene. Also, I have to give some applause to Bebop's ability to smell out the Turtles, and Rocksteady's ability to deliver some pain and knock outs.

[Nasubionna]

I dunno about you, but I absolutely adored this episode. I loved Bebop and Rocksteady back in the 80s show, and even though the Nick versions are quite far removed, they're still chuffing brilliant! J.B. Smoove is completely killing it as Bebop; his line delivery is top notch and the dialogue he's been given is great. Love both their new looks and the weird-but-kinda-cute friendship they seem to have, and I must say, Bebop's lasers are pretty darn sweet. Nice to see that they both seem to have gained a few brain cells since the original show!


I'm so glad someone else here loves J.B. Smoove's Bebop! :D

[senpai]

I'm really digging Bebop too. I think he's hilarious and really entertaining.

[blindturtle02]

I'm really digging Bebop too. I think he's hilarious and really entertaining.

Heck yeah. Count me in. I'm glad they haven't dumbed either of them down in this incarnation. Bebop is so much sneakier, and he doesn't need Shredder to do his thinking for him. I'm also digging that the sound guys sprinkled in actual animal noises here and there this time around. Makes mutants like these guys, TigerClaw, and Rahzar sound a bit more intimidating.

[Nasubionna]

Heck yeah. Count me in. I'm glad they haven't dumbed either of them down in this incarnation. Bebop is so much sneakier, and he doesn't need Shredder to do his thinking for him. I'm also digging that the sound guys sprinkled in actual animal noises here and there this time around. Makes mutants like these guys, TigerClaw, and Rahzar sound a bit more intimidating.

Yes! I love his little piggy/warthog snorts and Rocksteady's roaring. Not sure if that's actually the sounds rhinos make, but it's definitely animal in origin, and it's definitely effective. :D

[Klunk1234]

With the same IP address? Also:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Whoops..png

Jester: I send you a private message and Krang told me is not against the rules to have the same IP. It's obvious that Donnie and I are too different persons.

Since nobody here speak Spanish I can't post in that language, because nobody will understand me. My problem is solved.

Thank you, Jester for referring me to Krang.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2i8zntx.png fail in a half shell. God this guy is mental

Which episode from the OT is that from? Was it something Michelangelo said?

I have to admit that while I liked this episode and how they handled R&B, I really didn't want them in this series. This is one of the prime examples of OT pandering.

[Amaranthus]

To quote 4Kids Raph:
"Geeze, where's your off switch!"

You'd think a thread calling for you to be banned would make it so you knock off the RPing in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD.

Why not ban him?
All you do is complain and you know it's not helping.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/c/c9/Tmnt_2012_so_adorable_by_dajamodernthehedgie-d5ndplx.png/revision/latest?cb=20130519173729

[Powder]

Jester can't just ban somebody, he doesn't have that power. Majority vote & all that. Murrica.

[ToTheNines]

Also...just realized that Steranko is most likely named for comic artist Jim Steranko, the man who drew Nick Fury back in the 60's.

Yup. And Bebop is named after Mike Zeck, he drew Kraven's Last Hunt, Secret Wars, etc.

[THGhost]

Perhaps somebody with the power to ban people should ban shredder orokusaki? Just a thought...