Future Mirage Influence + New Characters!

[Powder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn9NSnkmAoA

It was revealed at Toy Fair today that there will be an upcoming arc in which the turtles go to Dimension X & align themselves with none other than Fugitoid! My guess is this will be in season 4, though I suppose anything is possible. Also revealed alongside toys of other familiar faces was Savanti Romero, so it would seem he too will get his old stories adapted, unless he's given new ones, which is equally plausible. Super dope! All the funky Fred Wolf stuff has been irking me*, I must admit, so I'm glad to see that Shredder Clones are only the very beginning with respect to Mirage characters/themes being pulled. With Triceratons on the way as well (presumably alongside Fugitoid) there's a lot in store for us fans of the original turtle series.

*I love all that stuff but I've felt like there's been too much focus on toy pushing & nostalgia lately. Happy to have more, just space it out.

[neatoman]

Is that Carter beside Dimension X Mikey and in front of Ice Cream Kitty?

Oh wait no, it's Savanti.

[Powder]

No, it's Savanti Romero.

[neatoman]

No, it's Savanti Romero.

Yeah I noticed when I fully watched the video.

[TurtleTitan97]

That's awesome!

[neatoman]

Hm, no Triceraton figures though...

[Vicky82]

Yay, Fugitoid going to be in it, love the turtles space suits.

I want Ice Cream kitty toy.

[IndigoErth]

Oh reeeally? Niceee!

I hope they paint that stuff well, esp those space suit Turtles, might need those. Omg the chicken is getting a figure along with Ice Cream Kitty and Spike - want.


"Angry Beavers," huh? I heard that... someone grew up with the old Nick cartoons. lol

[snake]

I thought Savanti was Null at first. I'm pretty hyped for Fugitoid.

[NinjaPug]

Hell yeah! Turtles in Space! Really excited for Fugitoid and Savanti.

Thanks for sharing Powder.

[neatoman]

So, anyone seeing Complete Carnage and Radical in the future?

[Xav]

No not really. They are pretty obscure. They haven't appeared in any cartoons, or comics outside Mirage, and have never had an action figure, I think we are more likely to get someone like Nobody.

[Powder]

After seeing pictures of some new Half Shell Heroes figures, it would seem the turtles (& Shredder...?) will also be going back to the days of the Dinosaur. Perhaps, like in the comics, they will tussle with Savanti there.

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/generated/2015_New_York_Toy_Fair/Playmates_Toys/2015_NYTF_Playmates_Toys_TMNT92__scaled_800.jpg

[snake]

So, anyone seeing Complete Carnage and Radical in the future?

Nah, but if they did appear I would be pretty happy

[CyberCubed]

Fugitoid was kinda expected to show up, and I guess Savanti will be in Renet's episode.

But seriously, where the hell are the Triceratons? I thought they were supposed to show up this season. Why they holding them off?

[ToTheNines]

Cool find P, thanks for sharing. I saw on Amazon that a book titled Mutants in Space was coming out in July so I assume we'll be seeing this go down in season 3.

I don't collect toys, but I'm DEFINITELY buying the Spike/ICK/Cluckingsworth three pack. Too cool.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if we'll see the Neutrinos with Fugitoid ala IDW, even though there aren't any toys shown.

[MikeandRaph87]

Instead of Carter what about Savanti Romero? If Renet will appear why not have Savanti involved somehow as well in the fore coming time traveling arc? Wishful thinking!

[matteso586]

And to think I was assuming that Jack Kurtzman is the 2012 incarnation of the Fugitoid.

[TurtleTitan97]

Instead of Carter what about Savanti Romero? If Renet will appear why not have Savanti involved somehow as well in the fore coming time traveling arc? Wishful thinking!

What do you mean? Savanti is appearing.

[snake]

And to think I was assuming that Jack Kurtzman is the 2012 incarnation of the Fugitoid.

Who says he isn't?

[evan2000]

Super doped for Fugitoid! Wonder if his backstory is going to be the same (being Professor Honeycutt and all) or completely new. Also I think the appearance of Triceratons is pretty much implied, Playmates simply haven't completed its toyline yet.

I have a feeling The Federation will not be incorporated in the Nick series at all, their role could be replaced by the Kraang instead.

[ToTheNines]

Who says he isn't?

Uh... I do.

[snake]

Uh... I do.

Why? It's still possible that Kurtzman could be Fugitoid, like he was Allen in IDW.

[ToTheNines]

Eh, just doesn't feel right, Kurtzman's a cool enough character on his own. And Forster's voice doesn't really match the character design.

I could be wrong though.

[CyberCubed]

Fugitoid's voice might change in robot form. They had better keep his backstory that he's Prof. Honeycutt though.

[snake]

They had better keep his backstory that he's Prof. Honeycutt though.

Are you going to throw a tantrum if they don't? Like you did with Hun?

[NinjaPug]

Kurtzman's character doesn't fit with the Fugitoid to me.

[MikeandRaph87]

What do you mean? Savanti is appearing.

I was making a guess. Renet is said to appear so I thought the warrior like guy could be Savanti Romero opposed to Carter. Its partial making sense of plots that have yet to be seen in he new show but we have snippets of an idea of and my dislike of Carter.

[Luckyday]

Is it possible that the new figurine of Spike could mean that Slash will be demutated soon?

[CyberCubed]

Kurtzman's character doesn't fit with the Fugitoid to me.

Wouldn't it explain had he knew the Kraang better for thousands of years?

[NinjaPug]

Wouldn't it explain had he knew the Kraang better for thousands of years?

I just meant that he's a cheesy P.I. instead of a scientist.

[Powder]

I was making a guess. Renet is said to appear so I thought the warrior like guy could be Savanti Romero opposed to Carter. Its partial making sense of plots that have yet to be seen in he new show but we have snippets of an idea of and my dislike of Carter.

It IS Savanti Romero. Where the hell are you getting Carter from? I can barely make it through this post.

[Zulithe]

I like seeing the turtles with energy weapons when in space/dimension x but I think the helmets are a bit much, makes them look bulky and harder for them to do their ninja moves.

But yes i'm really excited about seeing a true dimension x arc

[spookycookies]

I sort of like the slick look behind the AIBO inspired Fugatoid. Can't wait to see how he interacts with the group. I hope that he has more of his own arc but it seems like a lot of things are focused on Kraang.

[evan2000]

I kinda hope Fugitoid was forced by the Kraang to invent most of the Kraang techs (transdimensional portal, weapons etc) just like how The Federation was using him in Mirage/4kids. And then the Triceratons invade the Kraang, with the Fugitoid escaping and wanted by both parties, then meeting the turtles and so on.

[Raph]

Cool vid indeed! It's awesome that we're getting Fugitoid and the Triceraton in the current series. I still am really looking forward to seeying the episode with Mondo Gecko as well!

What I liked about the video were the little figures of Spike, Icecream Kitty and Dr. Clockingsworth.
I saw the vid. without sound. Will this be a 3-pack?

[Jester]

What I liked about the video were the little figures of Spike, Icecream Kitty and Dr. Clockingsworth.
I saw the vid. without sound. Will this be a 3-pack?
Yep. All 3 together. Same with the Shredder Mutants (well...2 together in that case. 4 Armed Clone is AWOL).

[Powder]

We now also have confirmation on Commander Mozar, the Triceraton.

[Ninjinister]

My hope is that he's a one-eyed cyborg with some level of honor again.

[CyberCubed]

Yep. All 3 together. Same with the Shredder Mutants (well...2 together in that case. 4 Armed Clone is AWOL).

I find it ironic in the 4kids line they made the 4-armed Shredder clone and the lobster one....and they skipped/never made the small one.

Yet in the Nick line they make the small one and lobster one...yet skipped the 4-armed one.

Like what the hell? Why does Playmates purposely leave off one of the 3 Shredder clones? I might just buy the small one and put it with my 4kids Shredder clones.

[shredder orokusaki]

Do you think that they might use the IDW orign for the triceratons and Fugitoid? Neutrinos are mentioned in the Danger oft he ooze game this means that they are coming to the show.

[spookycookies]

I find it ironic in the 4kids line they made the 4-armed Shredder clone and the lobster one....and they skipped/never made the small one.

Yet in the Nick line they make the small one and lobster one...yet skipped the 4-armed one.

Like what the hell? Why does Playmates purposely leave off one of the 3 Shredder clones? I might just buy the small one and put it with my 4kids Shredder clones.

I can see Shrimp & Crab being a two pack like the rep said, but Goro Shredder being his own figure in a later wave.

[Jester]

I can see Shrimp & Crab being a two pack like the rep said, but Goro Shredder being his own figure in a later wave.
This. Shiva-Shredder's too big to pack with another Shredder.

[Xav]

We now also have confirmation on Commander Mozar, the Triceraton.What? Where?

[Jester]

What? Where?
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=396&itemid=24238
• Fall release includes: Monkey Brains, Mondo Gecko, Atilla, Savage Mikey, Napoleon Bonafrog, Dark Beaver, Dire Beaver, Dimension X Turtles, Mozar the Triceraton, Mutant Shredders and Fugitoid

[Candy Kappa]

We get a Savanti figure, but no Renet?

[NinjaPug]

We now also have confirmation on Commander Mozar, the Triceraton.

And the news keeps getting better. Too bad we didn't get a look at the toy.

[ToTheNines]

Mozar was mentioned line what? One time in the Mirage books? I'm gonna chalk this up as another 2k3 reference :)

[Metalwolf]

We get a Savanti figure, but no Renet?Girls don't sell, remember? 8)

[neatoman]

Mozar was mentioned line what? One time in the Mirage books? I'm gonna chalk this up as another 2k3 reference :)

In case he has a robot arm, then it's a 2k3 reference.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome news. I admit, I didn't like the Turtles in Space arc from the 4Kids series, but I have faith that the Nick team will do a good job with this, so I'm stoked.

[CyberCubed]

Wasn't Mozar the main general Triceraton in the 4kids series? The one with the metal arm who fought the Turtles the most?

[Metalwolf]

That will be great if Mozar shows. Finally an end in site to to the overused OT stuff! :D

[Chris]

Wasn't it said that the Kraang stuff would wrap up this season? (I could be totally off on this)

If so then the TMNT going back to Dimension X, Fugitoid and the Triceratons could be the end of season 3? Leaving Shredder and the Foot to be dealt with in season 4 maybe?

[Papenbrook]

No. I wanted the show to be more original.

[shredder orokusaki]

Μοre original? Βut it is already enough original. It has lot of new characters including Tiger claw Chris Xever Kraang e.t.c It has more original stuff than 2003 and 87 elements. IDW also has Bebop Rocksteady Krang and Hun but this dosent mean that it is not original

[snake]

No. I wanted the show to be more original.

What does that even mean?

[Luckyday]

What does that even mean?

I think he/she means that the show should focus on making original content instead putting mandatory characters and story lines from old TMNT shows,movies, tv and in this case the original comic book.

Now I will admit that I am on the fence when it comes to having complete original content vs re using characters and story lines but making some tweaks and changes.

I mean we really want to have some of those things revisit because they have such iconic moments that stay with us to this very day.

And I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't care if we never get to see fugitoid, Renet, Usagi Yojimbo, Neutrinos, and story lines like The River, Exile to NorthHampton, Return to New York and City at War, because the greatest excitement to have as a fan is to see old ideas turned a new.

There are even times when we want characters and story lines to remain same beat per beat because we, the fans, really liked what was done originally and any thing change will fell often feel unnecessary to us only. I think this reason why episodes like "The Good, Bad, and Casey Jones" and "Invasion part 2" are hold in such high praise because they have scenes that are straight up homages to the movie and Leo micro comic book.

However I think it important to have new content and I think one of the riskiest things to do with establish franchise is to make new content in it and I applaud writers that has the balls to do such as that because making new content can be really intimating if fans cry foul when they having see "character X" yet.

But when those risks pay off, more fuel is add to the mythos and keeps franchise from dying.

[Metalwolf]

I think he/she means that the show should focus on making original content instead putting mandatory characters and story lines from old TMNT shows,movies, tv and in this case the original comic book.

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However I think it important to have new content and I think one of the riskiest things to do with establish franchise is to make new content in it and I applaud writers that has the balls to do such as that because making new content can be really intimating if fans cry foul when they having see "character X" yet.

But when those risks pay off, more fuel is add to the mythos and keeps franchise from dying.Problem is though is that TMNT has a lot of fans right now demanding straight homages to the OT and certain 'mandatory' plotlines each iteration, making writers afraid to deviate from these which ends up having everything feeling kind of samey. There is a lot of things the Nick show could have done, but people wanted certain characters come hell and high water, and so interesting OCs were shoved into the background (like Xever) to make way for Bebop and Rocksteady. (I'm going to give B and R a chance, but they better be way different then those annoying and moronic guys in the OT.)

People don't want change. They want to see the OT over and over again. They want endless straight cameos of the OT, they want tons of 80's references, and whenever possible, they want Turtles Forever-like wrapping up to a series so they can have the OT cameo some more. I know it sounds like I don't like the OT, I do, but it's starting to lose it's specialness for me by being demanded for by other fans again and again and thus overused so much.

If they can get away from that and be open to not having to see certain characters every time, then we could get so many more new characters and storylines that would expand beyond the comfort zones. Otherwise the writers are being bogged down by this endless demand for more sameness, and it's getting to the point of constricting the series.

[Xav]

Wasn't Mozar the main general Triceraton in the 4kids series? The one with the metal arm who fought the Turtles the most?Yeah he is. Though it does seem odd that he's the only Triceraton getting a figure. Like are we going to see any other Triceratons on the show?

[Gunstar_Red]

Oh snap! Spoilers! ^^;

I'm excited if this is what is coming soon on the show! (Its about time they got through the obligatory introductory story arcs.) I'm so on getting that ICK/Spike/Doctor 3-pack. My Mikey needs his ice cream! ^^

I thought it was odd he didn't mention/introduced the Savantai figure. Forgot or purposely skipped over? Also, no Renet?

Edit: I need to get this out of my system. Its been joked before but... "Turtles in Spaaaaaace!" :lol:

[Candy Kappa]

In the Pixel Dan video, the Playmates guy said Savanti still was an early prototype. So I guess it's just there as a show piece.

[Gunstar_Red]

In the Pixel Dan video, the Playmates guy said Savanti still was an early prototype. So I guess it's just there as a show piece.

If its a prototype, why even put him in the display? But I really shouldn't complain. We got insight of what's going to happen next! ^_^

[Candy Kappa]

I hope that since the Savanti toy is a early prototype, means that Renet is also in the works, just not presentable like Savanti was.

[Gunstar_Red]

I hope so! I'm not much of a fan of either character but if they are willing to make characters based on the comics/2003 show, I'm supporting it!

[shredder orokusaki]

Well Savanti and Renet has been in all tmnt cartoons and comics expect the 87 one so it is no suprising that they are coming in the nick show too. Also since the Dark Ralph is based on Dark Leo IDW story then possibly Kitsune is also coming to the show.

[Luckyday]

If they can get away from that and be open to not having to see certain characters every time, then we could get so many more new characters and storylines that would expand beyond the comfort zones. Otherwise the writers are being bogged down by this endless demand for more sameness, and it's getting to the point of constricting the series.

One of my worst fears for this show is for them to become fully dependent on past content to a point where they are unable to create new ideas and I have seen it happen before with 2k3.

But to be fair they had try to go off and pretty much do their own thing and it was one of the reasons why I didn't like the horror mini season, because it wasn't what I was expecting at all. North Hampton had always been a time and place for reflection. For them to work out their personal problems and to build up hype for what's in store in New York.

However if they try to do that again, not in the same location obviously but in a new setting like they have travel through the ocean to look for the Technodrome that was sunk down in season 1 but along the way they come across H.P Lovecraft monsters, mysterious sunken pirate ship that may or may not be haunted, the Bermuda triangle, and somehow they got stuck on a random island somewhere but surprise! It's really Guantanamo Bay!

Something like that to me that would breath of fresh air but not right after a cliff hanger or something huge that has happen that should been a topic of many discussions for many episodes of them planning what to do next or at least preparing for the ****ing invasion apocalypse, instead having these jarring stand alone mis adventures that honestly would better to have when all this **** that was started in season 2 finale is flat out done.

The show is at a good place right now but the only thing that I want as a focus for now is Kraang, Shredder, and taking back the city until they reach to a point of conclusion then they can go off do whatever the **** they want for the rest of season 3 and see where it takes them.

[neatoman]

Well Savanti and Renet has been in all tmnt cartoons and comics expect the 87 one so it is no suprising that they are coming in the nick show too.

Ah yes, all of the TMNT cartoons in between the FW cartoon and the Nickelodeon cartoon, one single cartoon quite a lot of cartoons indeed.

[MrTMNT2012]

Never cared for Savanti Romero....

Excited for Mozar The Triceraton though! :)

[Metalwolf]

Never cared for Savanti Romero....

Excited for Mozar The Triceraton though! :)Oh yeah, me either. Wonder how Mozar is going to look in Nick form?:D

One of my worst fears for this show is for them to become fully dependent on past content to a point where they are unable to create new ideas and I have seen it happen before with 2k3.

But to be fair they had try to go off and pretty much do their own thing and it was one of the reasons why I didn't like the horror mini season, because it wasn't what I was expecting at all. North Hampton had always been a time and place for reflection. For them to work out their personal problems and to build up hype for what's in store in New York.Same here. That's why I'm so outspoken on Nick trying to be it's own thing, because likely we won't be having another show to try this again for some time. The main good thing I can say about the horror segment was that they did at least try and take a chance. It was not as it was expected, but in a way it didn't try to rehash much either. Maybe next time they might need to try and 'recuperate' at some other place (like at a beachhouse on a deserted beach) so that we aren't going to the Hamptons all the time. Some fans might not like it, but it would also be something that could have all new stuff in it to explore.

The show is at a good place right now but the only thing that I want as a focus for now is Kraang, Shredder, and taking back the city until they reach to a point of conclusion then they can go off do whatever the **** they want for the rest of season 3 and see where it takes them.I think for me they should save the final fight with Shredder for the end, and not have any more episodes to come after. If they deal permanently with Shredder and then they have a bunch of episodes after, it's going to feel a bit pointless because the whole overlying drama with Shredder in the background is now gone. So I think it's better to save the final stuff with Shredder, but have the 'extra' episodes try to fit in somehow to the over-arching theme.

[Xav]

Well Savanti and Renet has been in all tmnt cartoons and comics expect the 87 one so it is no suprising that they are coming in the nick show too.No they haven't. They weren't in the Archie or Dreamwave comics, and only Renet has shown up in IDW.
One of my worst fears for this show is for them to become fully dependent on past content to a point where they are unable to create new ideas and I have seen it happen before with 2k3.What are you talking about? The 2k3 series has a ton of new ideas. In fact the last few seasons are completely original.

[Powder]

Well Savanti and Renet has been in all tmnt cartoons and comics expect the 87 one so it is no suprising that they are coming in the nick show too. Also since the Dark Ralph is based on Dark Leo IDW story then possibly Kitsune is also coming to the show.

So you not only spend 95% of your time here roleplaying as Shredder but you don't even know anything about TMNT lore... Yikes!

Also, who's Ralph?

[snake]

Also, who's Ralph?

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/6/69/The_simpsons_ralph_wiggum-1-.png/revision/20141124210636

[Mew]

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/6/69/The_simpsons_ralph_wiggum-1-.png/revision/20141124210636
And I thought TMNT would never crossover with Simpsons.

[Gunstar_Red]

Sorry to go off topic, but I thought everyone agreed that Ralph was the missing 5th (or 6th?) Turtle? :P

And who changed the topic's tags? ^_^;

[shredder orokusaki]

So you not only spend 95% of your time here roleplaying as Shredder but you don't even know anything about TMNT lore... Yikes!

Also, who's Ralph?

I know that they were in 2003 cartoon mirrage comics. Renet is also in idw so Savanti is coming sooner or later. And now with the confirmation that they will be in Nick series i said that they were in all tmnt universes except the ot. That what i said.

[snake]

I know that they were in 2003 cartoon mirrage comics. Renet is also in idw so Savanti is coming sooner or later. And now with the confirmation that they will be in Nick series i said that they were in all tmnt universes except the ot. That what i said.

What about Archie? Or 2007? Or the OT movie-verse? Bayverse?

[Powder]

What about Archie? Or 2007? Or the OT movie-verse? Bayverse?

Or the anime, or the original toyline canon, any of the video games, Next Mutation, Dreamwave comics, Image comics, live action films... etc. :tlol:

[snake]

the original toyline canon

What I wouldn't give for a comic based off this. Seeing the turtles go into strange suits and transformations every month would be the best.

[Ninjinister]

wtf are these tags

[Gunstar_Red]

wtf are these tags

That's what I'm saying. Its getting worse.

[Candy Kappa]

I think the mods can see who adds the tags, so that will probably be sorted out nicely.

[Powder]

That is correct. I have a feeling I know who it is... Don't wanna call anybody out though. :trazz:

[Cure]

I have to admit, "harden my dick" gave me a chuckle.

[CyberCubed]

I'm pretty sure General Mozar won't be the only Triceraton. Like the Foot/Kraang they can make a generic Triceraton soldier design and then copy/paste it over and over to make it look like a small army.

[Metalwolf]

I have to admit, "harden my dick" gave me a chuckle.There's also "turtle/human mating" and "turtle dicks." I'm still laughing at those :D

[CyberCubed]

I hope Nick actually re-creates the Triceraton homeworlds to look like they did in Mirage/4kids.

[VaughnMichael]

In the Pixel Dan video, the Playmates guy said Savanti still was an early prototype. So I guess it's just there as a show piece.
No he Said Savatini was.:lol::lol: