Legends of Tomorrow (The CW)

[TurtleTitan97]

EXCLUSIVE: DC Comics superheroes are uniting in a potential new drama series at the CW, a garbercaity lotzspinoff from hits Arrow and The Flash that will feature several fan-favorite recurring actors/characters from both shows. I have learned that the network has teamed with Arrow creators Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim for a project eyed for next season toplined by Brandon Routh, Victor Garber, Wentworth Miller and Caity Lotz.

The untitled project, now in development, is described as a superhero team-up show. Routh, Miller and Garber will reprise their popular DC Comics characters — Arrow‘s Ray Palmer/The Atom (Routh), Flash villain Leonard Snart/Captain Cold (Miller), and Flash‘s Dr. Martin Stein (Garber). Because her Arrow character Sara Lance was killed off, with her sister Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy) taking over as the Black Canary, it is unclear whether Lotz will play the same or new superhero.

The project is in early stages of development, so there is a possibility for other Arrow/Flash characters to cross over to the new spinoff. Additionally, in a tidbit that should get fans fired up, I have learned the new project will include three major DC Comics characters who have never appeared in a TV series.

This is the project CW president Mark Pedowitz vaguely referenced at TCA in January. It will not be part of the current pilot cycle. With the creative auspices and talent involved, I hear that it could go straight to series, possibly for next midseason.

Berlanti and Kreisberg, who also co-created The Flash, executive produce alongside Guggenheim and Sarah Schechter for Warner Bros. TV and Berlanti Prods.

Teaming up superheroes has been a winning formula, as proven by the success of the Justice League and The Avengers comics. Marvel’s The Avengers have crossed over to features, with DC’s Justice League also on its way to the big screen. Routh is repped by UTA and Main Title, Lotz is repped by UTA and Atlas Artists.



http://deadline.com/2015/02/arrow-flash-spin-off-cw-new-superhero-series-1201382466/

[Shred Head]

Wow soon CW is pretty much going to be all DC comic book shows soon. Wonder what its going to be called pretty sure there not going to call it Justice League. Brave and the Bold possibly Justice Society or maybe even the Outsiders. Also Caity Lotz thats kinda shocking I doubt they would bring back a well known face and have her play a brand new character. Maybe there is a Lazarus pit in the Arrow universe after all and death is just as permanent in the show as it is in the comics.

[TurtleTitan97]

Greg Berlanti officially confirms the series is moving forward:

http://comicbook.com/2015/02/28/greg-berlanti-confirms-arrow-the-flash-spinoff-rumor/

Yes, we're creating a spinoff from #Arrow and #TheFlash and couldn't be more excited by the cast signing on. More to come. #SuperheroTeamUp

[TurtleTitan97]

New details on the three new heroes appearing in the show:

“THE TRAVELER” | Described as a “Han Solo-esque rogue who gets by with his charm, this hero hails from the future, and has journeyed back in time on a secret mission. His razor-sharp wit hides the pain of a man who has lived through serious conflict. He also harbors many secrets, always leaving both his teammates and the audience unsure of his true allegiances.
Quite Possibly Is Rip Hunter (pictured above), who first debuted in 1959 in the pages of DC Comics’ series Showcase and has popped up in continuity over the years. This Time Master has revealed in the past that “Rip Hunter” isn’t his real name – it’s an alias he uses so that his enemies can’t thwart his future efforts by killing him when he is a helpless infant in the past!
But Could Also Be Booster Gold — though he appeared in an episode of Smallville (played by Days of Our Lives‘ Eric Martsolf), and it’s been said the new characters have never been featured on a live-action show before — or Time Traveler, a powerful villain who’s gone up against the Legion of Super-Heroes.

“FEMALE WARRIOR” |This twentysomething Latina is pretty but unassuming, book smart and socially awkward by day. But by night, when she hears the cry of battle, her fury is ignited and she becomes a fierce warrior — so much so, that sometimes she can become a threat to others.
Quite Possibly Is a cross between Fury aka Helena Kosmatos (pictured), an Amazon heroine empowered by the ancient Furies, and Yolanda Montez, who assumed the role of Wildcat from her godfather, Ted Grant.
But Could Also Be Pantha aka Rosabelle Mendez, a short-lived member of the New Titans, or Tarantula aka Catalina Marie Flores, who hails from the pages of Nightwing.

“MYSTERY HERO” |An African-American male in his twenties will fill the role of a regular, street smart guy who unexpectedly gains powers, and then, as part of the team, regularly quips about the insanity of the situations.
Quite Possibly Is Virgil Ovid Hawkins, a high school student who was splashed with experimental chemicals after being caught in a gang war. Virgil emerged with electromagnetic powers, which he uses to fight crime as the superhero Static (pictured).
But Could Also Be Black Lightning (aka Jefferson Pierce) or Black Vulcan


http://tvline.com/2015/03/08/arrow-flash-spinoff-series-cast-rip-hunter-fury/

[TurtleTitan97]

Ciara Renée has been casted as Hawkgirl!

EXCLUSIVE: It has been a fast rise for young actress Ciara Renée, who graduated from Baldwin Wallace University with a degree in music theater in May 2013. Since then, she made her Broadway debut in Big Fish and replaced Patina Miller as Leading Player in the revival of Pippin. Last fall, she made her TV debut with a guest shot on NBC’s Law & Order: SVU. And now, she has landed a lead in CW’s proposed Arrow/Flash spinoff series, playing the role of Kendra Saunders aka Hawkgirl.


The superhero team-up show, from Arrow creators Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim, was to bring in three new DC superhero characters never seen on TV, along with a slew of Arrow/Flash recurring fan favorites. Hawkgirl is not expected to be one of them as the character has appeared in a Season 9 episode of the WB/CW drama Smallville, played by Sahar Biniaz, as well as in a couple of animated series including Justice League.

In the new series, Saunders is a young woman who is just beginning to learn that she has been repeatedly reincarnated over the centuries. When provoked, her ancient warrior persona manifests itself, along with wings that grow out of her back, earning her the moniker Hawkgirl.


On the Arrow/Flash spinoff, eyed for next midseason, Renée joins Brandon Routh (Arrow‘s Ray Palmer/The Atom), Wentworth Miller (The Flash‘s Leonard Snart/Captain Cold), Dominic Purcell (The Flash‘s Mick Rory/Heat Wave), Victor Garber and Caity Lotz whose role is still TBD as her Arrow character Sara Lance was killed off, with her sister Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy) taking over as the Black Canary.

Per the released breakdowns, the Arrow/Flash spinoff has been casting three new roles. With one of them turning out to be Hawkgirl, Lotz could end up playing one of the three new-to-TV DC characters, along with the two new male roles, now casting.

Berlanti and Kreisberg, who also co-created The Flash, executive produce the new series alongside Guggenheim and Sarah Schechter for Warner Bros. TV and Berlanti Prods.

Renee, repped by Stone Manners Salners Agency, recently starred as Esmeralda in a workshop production of the Disney musical The Hunchback Of Notre Dame at the Papermill Playhouse in New Jersey and the La Jolla Playhouse.

http://deadline.com/2015/03/arrow-flash-spinoff-hawkgirl-ciara-renee-cw-1201401280/

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Neat!

It's nice to see new DC shows that aren't Batman.

[Raph's Girl]

So it appears that the "Female Warrior" in the casting call was for Hawkgirl. Yeah. I can dig it.

[TigerClaw]

Ciara Renée has been casted as Hawkgirl!



http://deadline.com/2015/03/arrow-flash-spinoff-hawkgirl-ciara-renee-cw-1201401280/
That's cool, But I wish it was Shiera Hawkgirl.

[TurtleTitan97]

Arthur Darvill has been casted as Rip Hunter.

Arthur Darvill, who played a companion to the Doctor in BBC’s Doctor Who, is in final negotiations to join the cast of the WB’s untitled DC Arrow/Flash spinoff show.

The series’ cast already includes Brandon Routh as incredible shrinking hero The Atom (aka Ray Palmer), Wentworth Miller as Captain Cold, Dominic Purcell as Mick Rory and Victor Garber as Prof. Martin Stein among others.

Darvill will play a character titled the Traveler, a *****ure time-hopping adventurer. There was speculation that the hero could be time-jumping Booster Gold, but The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed the character is Rip Hunter, one of DC’s classic heroes created back in 1959 and the leader of a time-traveling group.

(Interestingly, his origin was redone so that he became the son Booster Gold, who was created in the mid-1980s.)

In fact, inside the WB the character is described as " a roguish time traveler who hides the strains of being responsible for history itself behind a facade of charm and wit."

Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim and Andrew Kreisberg are writing and exec producing.

This will be the first American television work for Darvill, who can be seen on the current season of BBC’s crime drama Broadchurch.

He is repped by Independent Talent and Silver Lining Entertainment.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cws-flash-arrow-spinoff-casts-785372

[Autbot_Benz]

Loved Arthur Darvill as Rory Williams in Doctor Who can't wait to see him in Flash SPinoff

[Raph's Girl]

So basically Rory has been promoted from Companion to Time Lord.

Now only that but since River is in the Arrow-verse he can spend time with his uh granddaughters.... :P

[TurtleTitan97]

This is subject to change, but it's being reported that the spin-off could possibly go by the title "The Atom": http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/arrowflash-spin-off-tentative-title.html

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is subject to change, but it's being reported that the spin-off could possibly go by the title "The Atom": http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/arrowflash-spin-off-tentative-title.html

Ugh. So far, "The Atom" is my least favorite character in both Arrow and Flash. I get what they're trying to do with him, but they're pushing him too hard in Arrow and Flash. I mean, Barry Allen appeared in ONE episode of Arrow before being in his own spin-off show. Caitlen and Cisco appeared in TWO episodes, and were not the main focus.

Ray Palmer has been in every frakking episode of Arrow this season, it seems.

I'm much more interested in Rip Hunter or even Hawkgirl.

[Krutch]

I think Routh/Palmer has been a breath of fresh air on the show, personally. I like Arrow a lot but sometimes its too heavy and overdramatic. I like the lightheartedness Palmer brings to an episode to help balance it out.

I only wish his scenes were more connected to the episode, though. Glad thats finally happened.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think Routh/Palmer has been a breath of fresh air on the show, personally. I like Arrow a lot but sometimes its too heavy and overdramatic. I like the lightheartedness Palmer brings to an episode to help balance it out.

I only wish his scenes were more connected to the episode, though. Glad thats finally happened.

Sure, but it's obvious they're utilizing him just to promote the next spinoff. Whereas with Barry Allen in Season 2, he showed up ONCE before getting his own show. He didn't derail or intrude upon each episode of Season 2.

I'd like Ray more if he wasn't constantly popping up saying "Hey guys, wouldn't you like to be watching my new show instead of this one?"

[TurtleTitan97]

John Wesley Shipp has apparently revealed that the title of the spin now has the tentative title of "Legends" and that the first season will be 13-episodes:
http://comicsalliance.com/arrow-flash-spinoff-legends-13-episodes-john-wesley-shipp/

[Raph's Girl]

John Wesley Shipp has apparently revealed that the title of the spin now has the tentative title of "Legends" and that the first season will be 13-episodes:
http://comicsalliance.com/arrow-flash-spinoff-legends-13-episodes-john-wesley-shipp/

Actually it's being called Legends of Tomorrow. Considering the time travel aspect (Arthur Darvil as RIP Hunter) that title makes sense. Plus Legends is the title of another show coming out.

http://comicbook.com/2015/04/21/legends-of-tomorrow-revealed-as-arrow-and-the-flash-spinoff-seri/

[TurtleTitan97]

The "Mystery Hero" has been casted! Franz Drameh (EDGE OF TOMORROW) has been casted as Jay Jackson. He's not based on any particular character, so I'm betting he's probably playing an original hero exclusive to this series.

It's speculation time! Reports are coming in that Franz Drameh (Attack The Block, Hereafter, Edge Of Tomorrow) has joined the cast of the CW's Arrow/The Flash spinoff show. His character has the good old fashioned alliterative secret identity name of Jay Jackson, but the DC superhero he's actually playing remains a mystery. Could it be Static Shock? Black Lighting perhaps? We do have some details on this Mr. Jackson however, as according to the official press release he'll be a "former high school athlete, whose pro-career was derailed by injury. Now making ends meets as an auto mechanic, Jay will come to have a surprising affiliation to the S.T.A.R. Labs crew." That makes him sound a LOT like Cyborg, but with that character expected to make his big screen debut in Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice, is that likely?

Whoever he turns out to be he'll join Arthur Darvill (Rip Hunter), Ciara Renée (Hawkgirl), Brandon Routh (Ray Palmer/The Atom), Wentworth Miller (Leonard Snart/Captain Cold), Dominic Purcell (Mick Rory/Heat Wave), Victor Garber (Dr. Martin Stein) and Caity Lotz (?). The new series will air sometime this year.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=119333

[TurtleTitan97]

The first trailer will reportedly debut on May 14: http://comicbook.com/2015/04/29/arrow-the-flash-spinoff-show-trailer-reportedly-coming-in-may/

[Mew]

Not a DC fan, but I'll tune in. ;)

[Raph's Girl]

The first trailer will reportedly debut on May 14: http://comicbook.com/2015/04/29/arrow-the-flash-spinoff-show-trailer-reportedly-coming-in-may/

Makes sense. That's the week of the fall upfronts.

[BabyTurtles]

So like...what happened to that Vixen series?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So like...what happened to that Vixen series?

Maybe CW was intimidated by the majority "meh" that greeted their announcement. :trazz:

[TurtleTitan97]

So like...what happened to that Vixen series?

It's probably still in development. I'm betting we get news about it in May during the fall upfronts.

[Raph's Girl]

So like...what happened to that Vixen series?

I haven't seen anything regarding who's voicing her (it's a cartoon that shows her origin) but the series is gonna be online on CW's web streaming site The Seed.

[TurtleTitan97]

The spin-off debuts next year in January. Filming will start in August: http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/arrow-flash-spinoff-premiers-january

It's also being reported the series will have a 3-minute presentation during the May 14 Upfront presentations: http://www.greenarrowtv.com/arrowflash-spinoff-intel-deadline-also-mentions-a-3-minute-presentation/24113

[Raph's Girl]

The spin-off debuts next year in January. Filming will start in August: http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/arrow-flash-spinoff-premiers-january


Wait... if filming doesn't start till fricken August WTF will the teaser be about on the 14th??

[TurtleTitan97]

DC Entertainment has registered a trademark for “Legends of Tomorrow”, so it looks like the title is legit: http://comicbook.com/2015/05/06/legends-of-tomorrow-trademark-appears-to-confirm-title-of-arrow-/

I'll see to it the title of the thread is changed.

[TurtleTitan97]

The show has gotten a series order! Here is the official synopsis:

In Legends, when heroes alone are not enough, the world needs legends. Having seen the future, one he will desperately try to prevent from happening, time-traveling rogue Rip Hunter (Arthur Darvill) is tasked with assembling a disparate group of both heroes and villains to confront an unstoppable threat—one in which not only is the planet at stake, but all of time itself. Can this ragtag team defeat an immortal threat unlike anything they have ever known?

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/07/cw-legends-tomorrow-cordon-crazy-ex-girlfriend

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The show has gotten a series order! Here is the official synopsis:



http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/07/cw-legends-tomorrow-cordon-crazy-ex-girlfriend

Why would you not grab the Flash? Perhaps Rip Hunter is assembling people who no longer have an impact on the future?

That would explain why he can assemble Sarah Lance (she's dead), but what about Hawkgirl? I am intrigued...

[Raph's Girl]

That would explain why he can assemble Sarah Lance (she's dead), but what about Hawkgirl? I am intrigued...

Eh Rory Williams just wants to out do The Doctor with companions and who better to be a companion than a granddaughter (Sara). :P

But seriously. Hopefully he has a cool time machine.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Eh Rory Williams just wants to out do The Doctor with companions and who better to be a companion than a granddaughter (Sara). :P

But seriously. Hopefully he has a cool time machine.

I'm not familiar with Rip Hunter at all but I LOVED Rory. Rory was awesome.

Rory leading a team of Rogues? I'm all in. Now all I want is for Atom to finally shrink.

And Felicity to die, but that's a different rant... :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Hawkgirl will be appearing in the season finale of Flash, along with other characters: http://comicbook.com/2015/05/07/ciara-renee-confirms-hawkgirl-and-other-spinoff-characters-on-th/

[Raph's Girl]

Hawkgirl will be appearing in the season finale of Flash, along with other characters: http://comicbook.com/2015/05/07/ciara-renee-confirms-hawkgirl-and-other-spinoff-characters-on-th/

I wonder if this means Hawkgirl is a metahuman??? :ohwell:

[TurtleTitan97]

Ray Palmer's sendoff in tonight's Season Finale for Arrow will tie into Legends of Tomorrow: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/arrow-season-3-finale-spoilers-794902

[TurtleTitan97]

Here is the first official image of the team

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1431604380/legends.jpgIMG]

[Turo602]

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[Raph's Girl]

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So what did we learn in this EPIC trailer.

1: Fricken Vandal Savage is the big bad!!!!! :o
2: Sara Lance was brought back to life thanks to Malcolm Merlyn aka new Ra's Al Ghul...thanks Malcolm and is now WHITE Canary (a play on Gandalf the Grey becoming Gandalf the White after his "death"?)
3: East London yeah is that what Galifrey is called now? :P
4: Arthur Darvil isn't a Time Lord...no he's a member of the Time MASTERS! :D
5: Hawkgirl has past life issues! Guess she's not a metahuman!

I love how it's Arrow and Flash who bring the team together! :D

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This looks INCREDIBLE. Count me in!

(But Atom did look silly in shrinking mode.)

[MutantBear]

Wow, this looks awesome! Can't wait to see what Vandal Salvage has in store... (although I do agree that the CG for the Atom when he shrinks is kinda funny.)

[TurtleTitan97]

Looks like another hit series. Well done CW/DC.

[ZariusTwo]

This look amazing. Will definitely check it out, though given I don't follow Arrow or Flash that much I'll probably be lost

[TigerClaw]

Check out the trailer for the Arrow/Flash Spinoff series, Legends of Tomorrow.

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[TurtleTitan97]

This is already a thread. TC: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51271

[TigerClaw]

This is already a thread. TC: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51271
Oh ok, Didn't know, Anyways, can't delete this post.

[TurtleTitan97]

So what did we learn in this EPIC trailer.

1: Fricken Vandal Savage is the big bad!!!!! :o
2: Sara Lance was brought back to life thanks to Malcolm Merlyn aka new Ra's Al Ghul...thanks Malcolm and is now WHITE Canary (a play on Gandalf the Grey becoming Gandalf the White after his "death"?)
3: East London yeah is that what Galifrey is called now? :P
4: Arthur Darvil isn't a Time Lord...no he's a member of the Time MASTERS! :D
5: Hawkgirl has past life issues! Guess she's not a metahuman!

I love how it's Arrow and Flash who bring the team together! :D

I think one other thing that stood out to me was

The trailer briefly showed Eobard Thawne in some sort of machine while Rip Hunter talked about traveling through time. I wonder if this could mean he and Savage team up. Because it would be a shame to not see Cavanagh for a while considering the great job he's done as the Reverse-Flash.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was already gonna watch it but now I'm even more on board.

I just hope Cold and Heatwave don't disappear entirely from Flash... was really wanting to see the Rogues fully fleshed out and as a team.

[Jester]

Still laugh every time I think of Leonard Snart....


Tehehe...Snart.

[sdp]

This show looks ridiculous, which is good but I don't see this lasting more than a season sadly. It also goes to show that a the "realistic" nolan Batman could've easily lived with other DC superheroes since Arrow was pretty much as "realistic" as Nolan's Batman and look what it's evolved to.

[Raph's Girl]

The trailer briefly showed Eobard Thawne in some sort of machine while Rip Hunter talked about traveling through time.

That was the Time Bubble/Sphere. It's the time machine used by Rip, Booster Gold (who is Rip's father), Legion of Superheroes, and Superman amongst others over the years (pre and post COIE)

[TurtleTitan97]

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[TurtleTitan97]

BTS pics of Ciara Renée getting ready for Hawkgirl: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=121683

[TurtleTitan97]

Phil Klemmer has been named as showrunner: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=122064

[TurtleTitan97]

The series has been bumped to Spring 2016: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=122172

[TurtleTitan97]

Hawkman is coming: http://comicbook.com/2015/07/12/hawkman-confirmed-for-legends-of-tomorrow/

[blindturtle02]

Quite the happy accident when I stumbled upon this news a couple months back. It was probably around these forums since it's usually where I go for all things comic news. I'm looking forward to this. Savage has always been one of my favorite villains so can't wait to watch this series.

[TurtleTitan97]

New details on Hawkman:

As you may have heard, Carter Hall, aka Hawkman, is coming to DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, but I hear we’ll actually see him pop up on The Flash and Arrow first. Described as charismatic and wise beyond his years, Hawkman is a natural-born leader with an abundance of charm and confidence—well, that’s because he’s 5,000 years old. Much like the comic book iteration, Carter retains his memories of his past lives each time he is reborn, though his lover (aka Hawkgirl) is born anew. In other words, Kendra Saunders will have no idea who he is at first.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/24/spoiler-room-once-upon-a-time-gotham-flash-spoilers

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

New details on Hawkman:



http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/24/spoiler-room-once-upon-a-time-gotham-flash-spoilers

Please keep his appearances on Flash limited. We already had at least four episodes out of the first season that had to cross over with Oliver, or Felicity, or everyone else... really prefer Flash being able to stand on his own two feet.

[TurtleTitan97]

Falk Hentschel has been casted as Hawkman: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/03/the-cw-casts-falk-hentschel-as-hawkman-in-legends-of-tomorrow-ar/

[Raph's Girl]

Falk Hentschel has been casted as Hawkman: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/03/the-cw-casts-falk-hentschel-as-hawkman-in-legends-of-tomorrow-ar/

Only in Hollywood can you go from playing an evil Marvel character to a DC super hero... :lol:

[Raph's Girl]

And we have a Vandal Savage!! Danish actor Casper Crump has been cast in the villanous role! This time around ole Vandal is only 6000 years old. He'll first appear in Flash and Arrow (like everyone else) before becoming the big bad in Legends.

Check this dude out. He's got the creepy villain vibe going for him for sure!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/savage-social-627e0.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/vandal-savage-cast-for-flash-arrow-and-legends-of-tomorrow

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

And we have a Vandal Savage!! Danish actor Casper Crump has been cast in the villanous role! This time around ole Vandal is only 6000 years old. He'll first appear in Flash and Arrow (like everyone else) before becoming the big bad in Legends.

Check this dude out. He's got the creepy villain vibe going for him for sure!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/savage-social-627e0.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/vandal-savage-cast-for-flash-arrow-and-legends-of-tomorrow

Oh hell yes. Excellent casting.

[TurtleTitan97]

The show has started filming as of today: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=124906

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The show has started filming as of today: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=124906

I guess this means that all the footage from the trailer came from one of the Flash/Arrow/Legends crossover? Whatever episode(s) spin off these guys into their own show?

[Raph's Girl]

I guess this means that all the footage from the trailer came from one of the Flash/Arrow/Legends crossover? Whatever episode(s) spin off these guys into their own show?

The footage was just promo footage and not really from any particular ep. However I DO know that episode 8 of Flash/Arrow will be the backdoor pilot for Legends. Also the Arrow ep that features Constantine (episode 5 I think) helping to resurrect Sara.

[TurtleTitan97]

I guess this means that all the footage from the trailer came from one of the Flash/Arrow/Legends crossover?

I believe all the footage that was shot for that promo was solely meant for that alone, just to give an idea as to what this series is trying to go for. I doubt if little, if not any, of that footage will appear in the actual show.

[TurtleTitan97]

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/09-SEP/HM_HG_v01_r02a_55f2615b7da9d0.86161554.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Me likey. Definatly better than the Smallville costume. Can't wait to see the wings (which will be CGI)!

[TurtleTitan97]

Stephanie Corneliussen has been casted as Valentina Vostok, the Negative Woman from the Doom Patrol:
https://tvline.com/2015/09/23/legends-of-tomorrow-stephanie-corneliussen-cast-valentina-vostok/
Valentina is described as a gifted and beautiful Soviet physicist who will stop at nothing to defend her precious “Motherland.” When the Legends encounter her at the height of the Cold War, they suspect her of working with Vandal Savage (Casper Crump) on a secret weapon. Ray/The Atom (Brandon Routh) and Leonard/Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) must vie for Valentina’s affection in an attempt to thaw her cold heart, and find out where her allegiance truly lies -— before she completes her project and potentially turns the tide of the Cold War.

[Raph's Girl]

Stephanie Corneliussen has been casted as Valentina Vostok, the Negative Woman from the Doom Patrol:
https://tvline.com/2015/09/23/legends-of-tomorrow-stephanie-corneliussen-cast-valentina-vostok/

Doom Patrol!! Hopefully this means Beast Boy will show up!! :o

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Stephanie Corneliussen has been casted as Valentina Vostok, the Negative Woman from the Doom Patrol:
https://tvline.com/2015/09/23/legends-of-tomorrow-stephanie-corneliussen-cast-valentina-vostok/

That is a very attractive woman. Captain Cold and Ray Palmer fighting over here? Sounds... interesting. :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Doom Patrol!! Hopefully this means Beast Boy will show up!! :o

Doubtful. It would probably be pretty expensive to create all those CGI animal transformations for him on a CW budget.

[Leo656]

If they're doin' Doom Patrol stuff, I'd mark out huge for the Brotherhood of Dada. That's obscure as f*ck but I love absurd nonsense like that. In my head, Mr. Nobody kinda sounds like Kiefer Sutherland. :lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

First look at Jax Jackson as the new Firestorm:

http://i.imgur.com/KW7ZxjD.png

I really hope they give him an actual costume eventually...

[TurtleTitan97]

Connor Hawke is confirmed to appear on Legends. Only this time around he won't be Oliver's son: http://comicbook.com/2015/10/18/will-connor-hawke-appear-in-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Connor Hawke is confirmed to appear on Legends. Only this time around he won't be Oliver's son: http://comicbook.com/2015/10/18/will-connor-hawke-appear-in-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-/

Actually, the reports specifically say "Will not be the son of Oliver Queen and Sandra Hawke."

From that, I think it's still safe to assume he's Ollie's son... probably the one with the mom Moira paid off. That particular plot thread hasn't been followed up on yet.

[TurtleTitan97]

Actually, the reports specifically say "Will not be the son of Oliver Queen and Sandra Hawke."

From that, I think it's still safe to assume he's Ollie's son... probably the one with the mom Moira paid off. That particular plot thread hasn't been followed up on yet.

But Conner is suppose to be biracial in the comics and in Legends based on the casting description given. The other girl was white, so he can't possible be Oliver's son.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

But Conner is suppose to be biracial in the comics and in Legends based on the casting description given. The other girl was white, so he can't possible be Oliver's son.

Good point; maybe it's more farflung than that... maybe it's that white kid's son, so Ollie's grandson?

I still say it's tying into that "Ollie fails a paternity test" plotline. :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

A better look at the Hawk's costumes from the upcoming Arrow/Flash crossover:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SsDJE3y4--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1512988375642191654.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

A better look at the Hawk's costumes from the upcoming Arrow/Flash crossover:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SsDJE3y4--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1512988375642191654.jpg

What are those funky mecha-gloves Barry is wearing?

Fallout from his fight with Zoom? Or just equipment needed for this particular episode?

[Raph's Girl]

What are those funky mecha-gloves Barry is wearing?

Fallout from his fight with Zoom? Or just equipment needed for this particular episode?

We'll find out in a couple weeks...

[Raph's Girl]

Promo for the Flash/Arrow Legends of Tomorrow crossover/backdoor pilot that'll be airing in 2 weeks. Loving the wings on Hawkgirl. Definatly an improvement from Smallville

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[TurtleTitan97]

Promo for the Flash/Arrow Legends of Tomorrow crossover/backdoor pilot that'll be airing in 2 weeks. Loving the wings on Hawkgirl. Definatly an improvement from Smallville

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At this point I shouldn't be surprised, but the special effects they use are just so darn awesome and continue to impress me. Seriously, I commend the VFX artists on a job well done. Looking forward to seeing the Hawks in action.

[Raph's Girl]

New trailer for Legends of Tomorrow. One that mentions Batman and Superman!! :o

"I've seen Men of Steel die and Dark Knights fall..." - Rip Hunter

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[TurtleTitan97]

Holy crude, Firestorm has an actual costume!!!

This looks fantastic!

[Leo656]

Holy sh*t.

[ZariusTwo]

Game over Marvel

[Leo656]

Well, so much for that.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Legends-Tomorrow-So-Expensive-It-Probably-Won-t-Get-Second-Season-102157.html

I kinda had a feeling that was bound to happen. Ah well. "Better to burn out..." etc. etc. At least if they know for a fact there's only going to be one season, they can make it all-killer/no-filler and actually have a resolution at the end, rather than have the rug pulled out from under them and be left hanging on a cliffhanger.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well, so much for that.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Legends-Tomorrow-So-Expensive-It-Probably-Won-t-Get-Second-Season-102157.html

I kinda had a feeling that was bound to happen. Ah well. "Better to burn out..." etc. etc. At least if they know for a fact there's only going to be one season, they can make it all-killer/no-filler and actually have a resolution at the end, rather than have the rug pulled out from under them and be left hanging on a cliffhanger.

Well, if true, I don't mind. I always assumed LoT was a one-season mini-series and if I remember correctly, that's even how CW was originally promoting it. So, to successfully wrap it up, do the following:


Permanently Kill White Canary (she's died and come back one time too many already)
Send Firestorm (both halves) back to Flash
Permanently defeat Vandal Savage
Send The Atom back to Arrow so he can take back his company
Send Captain Cold and Heatwave back to Flash


Not sure what to do with the Hawk duo, though...

[Leo656]

So long as the show has a conclusive beginning, middle, and end, that should be good enough, even for just one season.

It just doesn't bode well for too many future "Big-Scale" super-hero shows. Which doesn't surprise me. Frankly, I'm amazed with what they can get away with on The Flash. I'm not shocked that this other project is stunningly cost-prohibitive.

Call it a hunch, but even disregarding the movies being in the way, I'm guessing we're still at least 20 years away from a live-action JLA show. :trazz:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So long as the show has a conclusive beginning, middle, and end, that should be good enough, even for just one season.

It just doesn't bode well for too many future "Big-Scale" super-hero shows. Which doesn't surprise me. Frankly, I'm amazed with what they can get away with on The Flash. I'm not shocked that this other project is stunningly cost-prohibitive.

Call it a hunch, but even disregarding the movies being in the way, I'm guessing we're still at least 20 years away from a live-action JLA show. :trazz:

Yeah, knowing that the cost is super-problematic for Legends, I'm now wishing the show had never gotten off the ground and they'd recycled that budget into Flash for a couple of good Grodd-centric Gorilla City episodes... and King Shark, gimme more King Shark.

[Leo656]

I will never bemoan any set of circumstances that made "Live-Action Rip Hunter" a thing.

[TurtleTitan97]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/9530cbf3c47731bbee38eec2fa4105a3/tumblr_nyui0fBI6D1uv4crqo1_1280.png

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/9530cbf3c47731bbee38eec2fa4105a3/tumblr_nyui0fBI6D1uv4crqo1_1280.png

Sweet mother of Nth metal, that is pretty epic.

So... how does Savage come back? Reincarnation? Any thoughts?

[Raph's Girl]

New trailer! OMG... Vandal Savage killed Rory's son?! :o

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Eh. At this point, I'm just ready for the damn premiere. Not much new material. Still good though.

[Leo656]

My wife literally said, two seconds ago, "You showed me that the other day." :lol: A good bit of it looked new to me, but whatever. I guess I'm too busy being awestruck that we're even able to get this kind of super-hero show on TV these days. We've come a long way from the "Does he really have to fly? That's gonna cost so much money!" days of pre-production on "Lois & Clark" back in the day. Getting one scene of heat vision into the script was a nightmare. Now you got Firestorm and sh*t. :lol: It's unreal.

It's like, I already know this show is gonna be great, but in truth, it could be f*cking terrible and I'd still appreciate the effort. :lol: Just because I grew up when super-hero TV shows were simply low-budget, bargain-basement kiddie theater, and I'm amazed with what they can pull off now.

Like, compare the rejected JLA pilot from the mid-90s to this sh*t here. It feels like 100 years ago. And that was terrible, but that was seriously, almost the best they could have done back then, which makes it almost as tragic as it is just plain sh*tty. We've come so far so fast.

[Bry]

"I've seen Men of Steel die and Dark Knights fall..." - Rip Hunter

So we know he's time-travelled back to the early '90s!

But seriously, I'm pretty excited for this. The promo stuff looks great, and Arthur Darvill in a time machine is a winning combo for me. :D I'll always wish Brandon Routh got another shot at Superman, but I do like him as Ray Palmer, and it's nice to see him actually being the Atom instead of Flying Super-Suit Hero #12853.

[Autbot_Benz]

Matt Nable who played Ra's Al Ghul in Arrow is going to be Ra's on Legends of tommorow

Matt Nable will be reprising his role as Ra's Al Ghul for the Arrow/Flash spin-off, DC's Legends of Tomorrow. It's unclear whether Nable will have survived his season 3 finale battle with the Arrow or if Nable's appearance will be through Legends of Tomorrow's time-travel adventures. Current Arrow baddie, Damien Darhk is also confirmed to appear on Legends of Tomorrow so perhaps we'll be traveling back in time to a period when Darhk was still a member of the League of Assassins?

Ra's implied in season 3 of Arrow that he's at least a few centuries old thanks to the regenerative powers of the Lazarus Pit. However, Malcolm Merlyn, the new Ra's, stated during this season's crossover episode that the League of Assassin's has no intel on Vandal Savage which would indicate that Savage and the League have never crossed paths during their long lifespans. Without knowing what Savage's agenda will be in Legends of Tomorrow it's hard to predict how the interaction between Ra's and Savage will come about.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=129109

[Raph's Girl]

However, Malcolm Merlyn, the new Ra's, stated during this season's crossover episode that the League of Assassin's has no intel on Vandal Savage

Malcolm was lying about not knowing about Vandal. He knew danged well about him. Why else at the end would Malcolm refer to him as his friend as he was picking up his ashes?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Matt Nable who played Ra's Al Ghul in Arrow is going to be Ra's on Legends of tommorow

Matt Nable will be reprising his role as Ra's Al Ghul for the Arrow/Flash spin-off, DC's Legends of Tomorrow. It's unclear whether Nable will have survived his season 3 finale battle with the Arrow or if Nable's appearance will be through Legends of Tomorrow's time-travel adventures. Current Arrow baddie, Damien Darhk is also confirmed to appear on Legends of Tomorrow so perhaps we'll be traveling back in time to a period when Darhk was still a member of the League of Assassins?

Ra's implied in season 3 of Arrow that he's at least a few centuries old thanks to the regenerative powers of the Lazarus Pit. However, Malcolm Merlyn, the new Ra's, stated during this season's crossover episode that the League of Assassin's has no intel on Vandal Savage which would indicate that Savage and the League have never crossed paths during their long lifespans. Without knowing what Savage's agenda will be in Legends of Tomorrow it's hard to predict how the interaction between Ra's and Savage will come about.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=129109

Pretty sure we already knew this; I remember them saying Dark and R'as would both feature back before Season 4 of Arrow had even started.

[Raph's Girl]

Looks like Sara's getting a new love interest. Ali Lieber has been cast as Lindsay Carlisle.

Carlisle is "a soft-spoken, intelligent lady who is the ideal picture of 1950s womanhood. Although she might seem at home amongst the strict morals of the time, she harbors a dark secret: she’s a lesbian. Confused and scared, it seems she is doomed to suffer alone in a backwards time … until she falls for a girl from the future, Sara Lance."

hmm... Guess she's over Nyssa.

http://comicbook.com/2015/12/25/ali-liebert-cast-as-the-white-canarys-love-interest-in-dcs-legen/

[TheCanadiandrome]

Malcolm was lying about not knowing about Vandal. He knew danged well about him. Why else at the end would Malcolm refer to him as his friend as he was picking up his ashes?

I just hate how they changed Savage's origin for this show :ohwell:

Still can't wait though

[TurtleTitan97]

Jewel Staite (Firefly) has been casted as Rachel Turner. She'll appear in episode 10 and is a descendent of an important inventor in the DC Universe: http://tvline.com/2016/01/07/jewel-staite-cast-legends-of-tomorrow-episode-10/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Honestly, I'm getting REALLY SICK of all the LoT marketing. I mean, I was so excited to see it, but now their promos are staring to tick me off. I just wanna see the show already, quit telling me about it!

No more LoT videos for me until we actually get to watch the pilot episode.

... Wow, I sound bitter, don't I? :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

LoT will introduce future versions of The Flash & Green Arrow (goatee included): http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=129823

First clip from episode 1:

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[Raph's Girl]

Jonah Hex is gonna be in LOT!!! He'll be in the 11th ep in which the gang go to the old west! No word on who's playing him but lets just hope he doesn't have any stupid arse powers like in the movie. But man... freakin Jonah Hex in the Arrow-verse! :o

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jonah-hex-to-appear-in-legends-of-tomorrows-old-west-adventure

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Jonah Hex is gonna be in LOT!!! He'll be in the 11th ep in which the gang go to the old west! No word on who's playing him but lets just hope he doesn't have any stupid arse powers like in the movie. But man... freakin Jonah Hex in the Arrow-verse! :o

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jonah-hex-to-appear-in-legends-of-tomorrows-old-west-adventure

Okay.

That's actually awesome. Damn. I hope they include Talullah Black, too. She's awesome.

[Leo656]

This keeps looking better and better.

[TheCanadiandrome]

This keeps looking better and better.
Agreed dude

[Raph's Girl]

Johnathon Schaech (most recently seen in Quantico and Texas Rising) has been cast as Jonah Hex with possible recurring role status!! WOOT! I hoped they would do that since in the comics he's had several adventures with Booster and Rip. :D

"A true legend of the Old West, a morally ambiguous gunslinger with a penchant for danger. Surprisingly, he knows a thing or two about time travel and the future, but is at home in the Wild West. He’s been battling outlaws and gangs for awhile now, and advises the team to be extra careful when they arrive in the small town of Salvation."

http://comicbook.com/2016/01/19/johnathon-schaech-cast-as-jonah-hex-in-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow/

[TurtleTitan97]

The premiere episode did a pretty good job setting things up. Looking forward to what happens next.


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[NinjaPug]

I thought this was pretty bad. I wish these writers and producers would just focus on keeping Flash great and getting Arrow back to S2 level good.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was a bit nervous, but I really liked it.

I'm VERY glad that they're not really legends... more like forgotten losers. That's a lot more believable to me. Like Cold and Heatwave would be "legends." :trolleye:

So yeah, I hated all the detracting setup they did in the two main shows, but I'm on board for this series... even if Vandal Savage still is sort of "meh" to me. Not sold on him. I mean, I'm sold on the IDEA of him but the actual depiction is... meh.

[Autbot_Benz]

This Show is just Doctor Who with Superhero's

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This Show is just Doctor Who with Superhero's

You say that like it's a bad thing. :tlol:

[Bry]

LoT will introduce future versions of The Flash & Green Arrow (goatee included):

We're finally getting a live-action Green Arrow? Awesome!!

:P

[Raph's Girl]

This Show is just Doctor Who with Superhero's

Yep... Rory is basically the first Doctor in that he steals a time ship and goes on adventures. Only this time he has a purpose and his tardis has an AI (which will be created by Barry Allen sometime in the next 15 - 20 years).

I liked the ep myself. Love the twist of Aldus Boardman being Hawkgirl and Hawkman's son!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yep... Rory is basically the first Doctor in that he steals a time ship and goes on adventures. Only this time he has a purpose and his tardis has an AI (which will be created by Barry Allen sometime in the next 15 - 20 years).

I liked the ep myself. Love the twist of Aldus Boardman being Hawkgirl and Hawkman's son!

I do wish they'd make Rip Hunter a little less Rory. I wanna see some gruff and tough, not Rory-with-a-beard-and-trenchcoat.

Although I'm perfectly content to settle for Rory-with-a-beard-and-trenchcoat.

[Splinter the boss]

That was a good premiere. The fight scenes, the emotions, the villains, like that bounty hunter, were all great. Vandal Savage in the shadows was a nice touch. And, Leonard taking part in the mission says a lot about him, after all, Barry did say he has good inside him. Looking forward to the next episode.

[Raph's Girl]

like that bounty hunter.

The bounty hunter Chronos is from the comics. He's Ray's arch-nemesis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos_%28comics%29

[Bry]

Well, that was pretty good! It didn't blow me away, exactly, but it was a fun episode, the series has a lot of potential, and every character got a moment to shine.

But man, they're not even trying to hide the Doctor Who influence, are they? :lol:

And Booster Gold totally has to be introduced at some point, right?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The bounty hunter Chronos is from the comics. He's Ray's arch-nemesis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos_%28comics%29

I thought Chronos was a little lame in the episode. His design was "meh", and all he was as far as I'm concerned was a plot device.

It's the pilot, so I'll overlook it, but if we see too much more of him without improvement... eh. :tlol:

[Raph's Girl]

Episode 6 has been anounced as being set 30 years in the future where we'll meet the future incarnations of Team Arrow! Ollie will have a goatee and missing an arm! Also, Stephen Amell announced in a vid on FB that this episode also features Connor Hawke!

http://comicbook.com/2016/01/28/stephen-amell-to-appear-on-legends-of-tomorrow-sporting-a-goatee-missing-an-arm/

[Autbot_Benz]

Episode 6 has been anounced as being set 30 years in the future where we'll meet the future incarnations of Team Arrow! Ollie will have a goatee and missing an arm! Also, Stephen Amell announced in a vid on FB that this episode also features Connor Hawke!

http://comicbook.com/2016/01/28/stephen-amell-to-appear-on-legends-of-tomorrow-sporting-a-goatee-missing-an-arm/

wow Guggenhiem is actually using comic book sources for a change instead of the Tumblr Ollicity crowd what a shocker.

[TurtleTitan97]

wow Guggenhiem is actually using comic book sources for a change instead of the Tumblr Ollicity crowd what a shocker.

Not sure if serious or sarcastic...:lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

I can't believe they actually killed off Hawkman! :o

[CyberCubed]

This show has no real reason to exist. I'm baffled by it.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I can't believe they actually killed off Hawkman! :o

Good riddance, to be honest.

[TurtleTitan97]

This show has no real reason to exist. I'm baffled by it.

Sucks to be you then, because the show rocks. :roll:

[Splinter the boss]

Savage is a boss. And if they travel to the future, I hope we see Malcom, the guy who resurrected him.

[Foombamaroom]

If I see any sign of Felicity in this show, I'm done with Arrow, because that'll just prove that he's never going to end up with the Canary.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I actually forgot to watch this last night, but I'm watching it tonight! Can't wait to see Hawkman get Killed Off... the showrunners have had ZERO success in making him likable.

I wonder if they'll be able to fix time so that Stein still ends up married by the end of the season? :tcry:

[Raph's Girl]

I wonder if they'll be able to fix time so that Stein still ends up married by the end of the season? :tcry:

Don't worry. It gets fixed in episode. *lol*

What I don't get tho is...ok they're meeting all these people in the past but their future/present selves don't remember the encounters??? Martin doesn't remember being in a space/time ship in his 20s? Was it all the pot he smoked in the 70s? *lol*

Also, Damien Dahrk... is the reason he kidnapped Ray in the first place was because of the 1975 encounter??

Also, Is it just a coincidence that Damien's house in 2016 was Vandal's house in 1975?! Seriously! Same house!!

And of course I find no mention of any fire/explosion in Norway in October 1975.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Don't worry. It gets fixed in episode. *lol*

What I don't get tho is...ok they're meeting all these people in the past but their future/present selves don't remember the encounters??? Martin doesn't remember being in a space/time ship in his 20s? Was it all the pot he smoked in the 70s? *lol*

Also, Damien Dahrk... is the reason he kidnapped Ray in the first place was because of the 1975 encounter??

Also, Is it just a coincidence that Damien's house in 2016 was Vandal's house in 1975?! Seriously! Same house!!

And of course I find no mention of any fire/explosion in Norway in October 1975.

Oh, okay. Good to know! That would've been a little sad for me. :tlol:

PREDESTINATION PARADOXES!

Man, I gotta watch this episode tonight. My wife hasn't seen the first episode yet, so we'll probably double-feature it this weekend...

[TLP]

Thank fuq Carter's dead. I didn't think I could find a character more dry and lifeless in this universe than Roy Harper.

[TurtleTitan97]

So long 1975, 1986 here we come!

My favorite scenes in this episode was probably Ray going through Kendra's bloodstream atom-sized and Captain Cold meeting his younger self. Oh, Sara was once again pure delight on screen. Next episode looks good!

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[Raph's Girl]

Captain Cold meeting his younger self.

Capt Cold meeting his younger self was awesome indeed.

At least Savage remembered his encounter with Rip from 4000 years ago.

Now the question is. Ok. In the original timeline Carter and Sheiara's son was found dead at his desk. Why didn't they just take him back to his office?? They changed history by burying him. Now he's gonna be a missing person!

Also, I chuckled when Sara said "Im not much of a dancer..." Is that why you stopped being a background dancer for Lady Gaga? :P Seriously that's what she was doing before going into acting. She was also on some dancing reality show and in a girl band that was only popular briefly in Germany.

[Xav]

A lot of dumbness in this show. So Rip tries to kill Savage before he got his powers and the only weapon he brings is a staff? Oh and when that doesn't work he just never tries it again, and when he does temporary kill him and happens to have the weapon and woman who can kill him permanently he just leaves his body there, because the main characters in this show have to act like idiots in order to drag this plot line out for a whole season.

[Splinter the boss]

A lot of dumbness in this show. So Rip tries to kill Savage before he got his powers and the only weapon he brings is a staff? Oh and when that doesn't work he just never tries it again, and when he does temporary kill him and happens to have the weapon and woman who can kill him permanently he just leaves his body there, because the main characters in this show have to act like idiots in order to drag this plot line out for a whole season.

I don't think it was before Savage got his powers as he had lived long enough to kill Rip's wife and son. I think he had already killed Sheiara and Kofu and become immortal, so Rip went back in time to kill him just like they're doing it now.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

As a father and husband, I don't believe Rip for one second. Were my family taken from me and I had a chance to go mano a mano with their killer, #1 I'm bringing the whole damn arsenal, and #2 I'm not worrying about blood on my hands making me less of a person. I'm leaving the person in shreds.

Other than that, though, I'm really enjoying Carter being gone. Worst character of the roster dead in 2 episodes? :tcool: Thank you very much!

Also, Kendra is now just as annoying as he was. I liked her in Flash, but her total port-mortem devotion to Carter is just so aggravating.

Hooray, Ray's finally not 100% a loser! :trolleye: If it weren't for the Hawks, HE'D be my most hated character on this roster.

Every time Stein takes him down a peg, I just want to high-five the professor and buy him an ale. :tlol:

[TheCanadiandrome]

Savage is a boss. And if they travel to the future, I hope we see Malcom, the guy who resurrected him.

I hope we see how he's resurrected! That's still not been explained

This show leaves too many unanswered questions than it answers lol, but still a good show

I'm personally hoping for Carter to come back some how. I mean the "future" Carter died so the "past" versions are still out there.

Savage has a mind like an elephant lol he never forgets.

But I don't understand how they figure going further into the future and not further in the past is the key to stopping him? I mean why the hell are they going forward and not backwards?

[DVD]

As a father and husband, I don't believe Rip for one second. Were my family taken from me and I had a chance to go mano a mano with their killer, #1 I'm bringing the whole damn arsenal, and #2 I'm not worrying about blood on my hands making me less of a person. I'm leaving the person in shreds:

There in lies the difference between an American and an Englishman. One should always hold onto ones own humanity. Against all odds.

On that, the show is cool, fun and very very cheesy !!!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

There in lies the difference between an American and an Englishman. One should always hold onto ones own humanity. Against all odds.

On that, the show is cool, fun and very very cheesy !!!

Let's not go down the tired and true shtick of "American" versus "Englishman", shall we? :tlol:

I hope we see how he's resurrected! That's still not been explained

This show leaves too many unanswered questions than it answers lol, but still a good show

I'm personally hoping for Carter to come back some how. I mean the "future" Carter died so the "past" versions are still out there.

Savage has a mind like an elephant lol he never forgets.

But I don't understand how they figure going further into the future and not further in the past is the key to stopping him? I mean why the hell are they going forward and not backwards?

Carter doesn't resurrect until Kendra also dies.

Here's to a long and healthy life to Kendra! :twink:

[TheCanadiandrome]

Yes but obviously u didn't read my full post. What's to say another past Carter doesn't show up at some point? Only Carter from 2016 died

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yes but obviously u didn't read my full post. What's to say another past Carter doesn't show up at some point? Only Carter from 2016 died

That's very true.

[TheCanadiandrome]

There's so many elements to consider don't ya think?

[TurtleTitan97]

Cisco is appearing in tomorrow's new episode:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-flashs-carlos-valdes-will-appear-in-the-next-episode-of-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Cisco is appearing in tomorrow's new episode:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-flashs-carlos-valdes-will-appear-in-the-next-episode-of-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow

How!? It's in the '80's... color me intrigued.

[Bry]

How!? It's in the '80's... color me intrigued.

Oh please oh please oh please :P

http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Whos-Who-Update-87-5-1987.jpg

[TurtleTitan97]

Green Arrow 2046 (Goatee included), Conner Hawke, and.... Deathstroke 2046?!?!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiKezKUAAApupE.jpg

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12745839_1001095866642347_3522768324029723509_n.jp g?oh=2a6547444f46fdec30ce1ba9192a84f1&oe=576BCA21

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiRt4YUAAI4mek.jpg



And for the doubters here's Deathstroke's mask full turn around:

http://i.imgur.com/hmw08tE.jpg

[Splinter the boss]

23 minutes left, cannot wait.

[Slade]

Green Arrow 2046 (Goatee included), Conner Hawke, and.... Deathstroke 2046?!?!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiKezKUAAApupE.jpg

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12745839_1001095866642347_3522768324029723509_n.jp g?oh=2a6547444f46fdec30ce1ba9192a84f1&oe=576BCA21

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiRt4YUAAI4mek.jpg



And for the doubters here's Deathstroke's mask full turn around:

http://i.imgur.com/hmw08tE.jpg

Saw this a few minutes ago. I am intrigued!!

[Splinter the boss]

It'd be nice if Dr Stein or Jefferson was mentioned in the flash universe. Afterall they were part of team flash. They act like they never even knew them.
( Felt the need to mention that )

Back on topic: nice episode. I just wished that they would add more to Kronus's character, besides the fact that he is a bounty hunter sent by the time masters to capture Rip.

[TurtleTitan97]

Loved the episode and I'm looking forward to seeing more of new the Green Arrow and the Deathstroke of 2046. Hopefully a future version of the Flash isn't too far behind.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Green Arrow 2046 (Goatee included), Conner Hawke, and.... Deathstroke 2046?!?!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiKezKUAAApupE.jpg

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12745839_1001095866642347_3522768324029723509_n.jp g?oh=2a6547444f46fdec30ce1ba9192a84f1&oe=576BCA21

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbiRt4YUAAI4mek.jpg



And for the doubters here's Deathstroke's mask full turn around:

http://i.imgur.com/hmw08tE.jpg

Very cool!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Valentina was pretty hot.

...

I will show myself to the door for my shameless pun.

[Slade]

I like this show, but I seem to mostly watch it for Caity Lotz and Wentworth Miller.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I like this show, but I seem to mostly watch it for Caity Lotz and Wentworth Miller.

Yeah, for me it's Sara, Snart, Rory, and the Firestorm halves. Undecided about Rip Hunter's portrayal, and I can't stand anyone else...

But at least this show is brutal to the people I don't like. :tgrin:

Carter got killed, Kendra got her ass kicked by Sara, and Ray got beaten to a pulp. They actually made me feel sorry for the idiot... here's hoping he becomes less naive and more of a contributor instead of a liability. :trolleye:

[TurtleTitan97]

Clip from tonight's new episode:

20tZCBOeKBs

[Slade]

I turned it off...let me know if I should have kept watching...

[Splinter the boss]

This is getting good. Friendship is on the line. Can't wait to see what happens next.

[TurtleTitan97]

It was neat episode, but I don't know. Something about it just felt off compared to the previous ones. I liked Grant Wilson and Conner a lot though.

I was surprised Oliver didn't bring up Barry, but then again if Thawne's newspaper from 2024 is still correct the Flash is probably still MIA.

[Autbot_Benz]

It was a good episode. I like the goatee look on Oliver.

[Slade]

I guess I'll finish the episode, I was just pissed it wasn't Slade damnit.

[Bry]

I was really excited for this episode, mostly due to Connor Hawke, but... ehh, I was pretty disappointed.

It wasn't terrible or anything. Connor was pretty good, but having him be Diggle's son instead of Ollie's kind of removed some immediate, in-story impact for everyone who isn't actively following "Arrow". And "I call myself Connor Hawke because of Reasons" just felt dumb and forced compared to that just... being his name.

Grant Wilson was an irritating turd. I guess he was supposed to be a turd, but I definitely didn't feel he was ever the threat he was described to be in the episode.

And for an actor, Stephen Amell continues to be a pretty good stuntman. :P His role here had the most sheer potential for pathos, but the best he could pull off was a slightly gruffer version of his usual blandness. I'd blame the writing, but every other actor in this episode had a much better showing than he did, so.... yeah.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

My wife's been out of town, so I'm waiting to watch this episode with her when she gets back.

Sounds like I'm not missing much, eh? :tlol:

I freely admit, I've stopped enjoying LoT for the plot and simply love it for all of the great Rory/Snart/Jax/Stein character development. Oh, and Sara... she's been pretty great.

The whole plot has been written about as intelligently as an obese hamster addicted to paint fumes.

[Autbot_Benz]

Now that I think about it that 2046 Star City is what happens when Olicity takes over the world :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So we watched it last night. Except for the scenes with Heatwave and Cold, we both hated it. Too much Green Arrow, too much dumb "Kendra is hawt I want to give her babies" drama. Seriously, half of the entire cast was rolled up into that BS.

Also, John Diggle Jr as "Connor Hawke" is the dumbest forced BS since "John Robin Blake."

First dud of an episode for us, but hell, the Mick/Snart falling out was still pretty awesome. Can't wait to see further ramifications of that.

Mick is McAwesome.

ADDED: Oh, and "Dimples" Wilson was utterly lacking as a threat. I thought Slade was just being a diehard over it, but I'm with him. Should've been Slade. "Dimples" was completely shoehorned in, and WHY THE HELL DOES STAR CITY GET ATTACKED EVERY DAMN SEASON? Even in Legends of Tomorrow, Star City has to face a CITYWIDE APOCALYPSE.

I am so utterly finally completely irrevocably sick of Arrow. Send Slade Wilson, John Diggle, Roy Harper, and Laurel Lance to Flash or Legends of Tomorrow and put what used to be a good show out of its (and our) misery.

[Slade]

So we watched it last night. Except for the scenes with Heatwave and Cold, we both hated it. Too much Green Arrow, too much dumb "Kendra is hawt I want to give her babies" drama. Seriously, half of the entire cast was rolled up into that BS.

Also, John Diggle Jr as "Connor Hawke" is the dumbest forced BS since "John Robin Blake."

First dud of an episode for us, but hell, the Mick/Snart falling out was still pretty awesome. Can't wait to see further ramifications of that.

Mick is McAwesome.

ADDED: Oh, and "Dimples" Wilson was utterly lacking as a threat. I thought Slade was just being a diehard over it, but I'm with him. Should've been Slade. "Dimples" was completely shoehorned in, and WHY THE HELL DOES STAR CITY GET ATTACKED EVERY DAMN SEASON? Even in Legends of Tomorrow, Star City has to face a CITYWIDE APOCALYPSE.

I am so utterly finally completely irrevocably sick of Arrow. Send Slade Wilson, John Diggle, Roy Harper, and Laurel Lance to Flash or Legends of Tomorrow and put what used to be a good show out of its (and our) misery.

Haha!! Man that was almost hard to follow.

[TurtleTitan97]

RIP Heatwave. Anyone else got a major "Of Mice & Men" vibe in that last scene between him and Cold?

And wow, I can't believe they actually referenced Space Ranger, Imperiex and Kanjar Ro! Guess that means aliens do exist in the Arrowverse.

[Splinter the boss]

A really good episode. It started a little boring, but got good. That episode left me speechless and shocked. I never thought Heatwave would go as far as letting time pirates on the ship, fighting to kill Sarah. That ending, though, I can't wait for next episode. I just can't believe Cold would kill him like that.

[TurtleTitan97]

With the show getting renewed, any thoughts on who the main villain should be?

While I wouldn't want to seem him debut in the next one, I'm hoping the show has the guts at actually bring this big bad to life somewhere down the road:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x_IeoxAF8OM/Vi577_El3ZI/AAAAAAAACqs/hh0nh4Kg4CA/s1600/Anti-Monitor_0003.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

I hope Constantine Vixen and maybe Jonah Hex join the legends in season 2

[Autbot_Benz]

Natalie Abrams Verified account
‏@NatalieAbrams

That #LegendsofTomorrow sizzle reel was UNREAL! Jonah Hex, Felicity, Giant ATOM and… Talia?!


**** why is Felicity coming to LOT. I don't want her ruining LOT.

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/82157/jonah-hex-legends-of-tomorrows-wondercon-video/ here is the video you can see

[TurtleTitan97]

Natalie Abrams Verified account
‏@NatalieAbrams

That #LegendsofTomorrow sizzle reel was UNREAL! Jonah Hex, Felicity, Giant ATOM and… Talia?!



**** why is Felicity coming to LOT. I don't want her ruining LOT.

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/82157/jonah-hex-legends-of-tomorrows-wondercon-video/ here is the video you can see

IDK if it's just me, but something is majorly wrong with the video's audio. Here's a better link:

mqY7pNKrMYw

Anyway, as for the trailer itself, WOW!

-So Talia al Ghul actually existed in the Arrowverse. NEAT! Wonder whatever happened to her?
-Jonah Hex looks pretty good. Looking forward to the Western episode
-Ray's got his own Atom Museum! Guess Barry can't be the only hero to get his own museum. And Atom drones!

[Autbot_Benz]

IDK if it's just me, but something is majorly wrong with the video's audio. Here's a better link:

mqY7pNKrMYw

Anyway, as for the trailer itself, WOW!

-So Talia al Ghul actually existed in the Arrowverse. NEAT! Wonder whatever happened to her?
-Jonah Hex looks pretty good. Looking forward to the Western episode
-Ray's got his own Atom Museum! Guess Barry can't be the only hero to get his own museum. And Atom drones!

lets hope Felicity is a small cameo and no other episodes

[TurtleTitan97]

lets hope Felicity is a small cameo and no other episodes

Considering it shows Felicity still in her wheelchair it's most definitely either a cameo or flashback, thankfully.

[Autbot_Benz]

Considering it shows Felicity still in her wheelchair it's most definitely either a cameo or flashback, thankfully.

I hope so I don't want her ruining this show like she has in Arrow

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Talia is one of my favorite DC characters... the TRUE Daughter of the Demon!

Still, I'm glad they didn't use her. She got no business fooling around with Oliver. She needs Bruce. And I need Damian! :tgrin:

[Splinter the boss]

I'm excited for this episode. 4 more days left, feels like it's been a month-long break.

[TurtleTitan97]

Patrick J. Adams has been casted to play a "beloved superhero from the DC canon" who will debut in the season finale of Legends. This hero will also serve to set up Season 2: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/legends_of_tomorrow/suits-star-patrick-adams-cast-as-surprise-dc-character-a132875

My instincts are telling me he's playing Booster Gold.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Patrick J. Adams has been casted to play a "beloved superhero from the DC canon" who will debut in the season finale of Legends. This hero will also serve to set up Season 2: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/legends_of_tomorrow/suits-star-patrick-adams-cast-as-surprise-dc-character-a132875

My instincts are telling me he's playing Booster Gold.

That'd be cool, I guess, but what happened to the Booster Gold / Blue Beetle "buddy cop" movie we were hearing about earlier this year?

[TurtleTitan97]

So as most have guessed, Heatwave was still left alive after his betrayal, and became a brainwashed Chronos. I'll admit, that was a nice twist and it's great to see him back with the team.

Next week, it's onward to the future...

KdmNRrX7mLE

[Autbot_Benz]

Looks like we are getting a Green Lantern after all. Patrick J Adams is going to play 40's Green Lantern Alan Scott

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/legends_of_tomorrow/spoiler-patrick-j-adams-mysterious-legends-of-tomorrow-a132904

[TurtleTitan97]

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then its best to take any news from today with a grain of salt.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They're not putting in a Green Lantern.

If they had ANY faith in the character, he'd be showing up in the movie roster earlier than 2020.

[Slade]

I liked this episode. I'm a Ra's al Ghul fan. Oh and Talia! That was nice.

Though I knew Rip was going to try the trial by combat. I was worried he was going to fight Ra's, and he even asked about it. I would have cut the show off if they'd have fought and Rip won.

I'm over this Hawgirk and Atom thing though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I liked this episode. I'm a Ra's al Ghul fan. Oh and Talia! That was nice.

Though I knew Rip was going to try the trial by combat. I was worried he was going to fight Ra's, and he even asked about it. I would have cut the show off if they'd have fought and Rip won.

I'm over this Hawgirk and Atom thing though.

Believe me, bro, I was over it before it even happened in that episode were Jax, Ray, and... GGGGRRRRRRRR. I hate shmucky schmalzty "romance" shoved into scripts.

I've honestly been hoping Savage would win just so we could be rid of "Three months ago I was a barista" girl...

[Splinter the boss]

Looks like we're getting Savage next week. Totally happy, he is one of the reasons I love this show. He brings the character to life, and one can almost feel the bloodlust.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm just so sick of Kendra and Ray. And Vandal Savage's portrayal is weak. And Rip Hunter and everyone else is an idiot that they can't ever win a fight against Savage. They've had the opportunity to capture him at least three times, which would be enough to prevent apocalypse, but they keep running away.

I need more Snart, Rory, and Sara to keep me invested, and I'm not getting it. All together, they got about seven minutes' worth of a forty minute episode. Kendra and Ray had to have received twenty minutes at least. So I'm done and will tune back in to selectively watch the parts with those characters. But as far as watching each episode all the way through... nah, man. I've already dumped one CW DC show, it gets easier with the second.

Please, God, don't let The Flash start to suck...

EDIT: Eh, I'm overreacting. I'll try to stick with it... but please, enough with the Ray/Kendra crap. It's killing me.

[Splinter the boss]

Will watch the episode tomorrow. Didn't even bother reading the posts since I want no spoilers.

[Autbot_Benz]

The Jonah Hex episode is the best one so far in my opinion. makes up for that crappy Jonah Hex movie.

[Raph's Girl]

The Jonah Hex episode is the best one so far in my opinion. makes up for that crappy Jonah Hex movie.

And I loved that Martin Stein saved the life of H.G Wells who in 1885 would have an adventure with the 6th doctor...and later in life have adventures with Lois and Clark! :D

[Splinter the boss]

I actually hoped the hunters would be in more than one episode. They made them sound like a threat, and yet they were defeated so easily after they appeared almost at the end of the episode.

I like what they're doing with Mick, he is not just the hothead anymore, however I feel he returned too quickly on the team.

Next episode's gonna be fun with the younger versions of the team members.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Filler. The Hunters did nothing; the crew were their usual idiot selves...

Tell me, why is it so hard to write this show? Why is everyone so incompetent when it comes to time travel? Why are the only good parts of a CW DC show from the Flash side of things and never from the Arrow side?

[Hero]

Wow... The Hunters were dispatched as soon as they surfaced. Wonder if the Pilgrim will fare better.

[Splinter the boss]

Wonder if the Pilgrim will fare better.
Definitely, she can attack them at any point in their life.

On a side note, I have a theory. I think that the time masters might team up with Vandal Savage to end the team. Since they both want them dead. After all, they do not really care about humanity, their job is to keep time safe. So, about that?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Also, how could anybody get excited over Jonah Hex in this? He looked and sounded good, but he did nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Waste of a character.

[Hero]

Savage and the Time Masters being in cahoots wouldn't be much of a surprise.

Was expecting more out of Hex also.

[Autbot_Benz]

Also, how could anybody get excited over Jonah Hex in this? He looked and sounded good, but he did nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Waste of a character.

maybe Hex will be in season 2 since him and Rip have history. I chuckled when it was hex that gave Rip the jacket I thought he got it from the 10th doctor :P

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

maybe Hex will be in season 2 since him and Rip have history. I chuckled when it was hex that gave Rip the jacket I thought he got it from the 10th doctor :P

I dunno, I think a non-modern gunslinger on a team of time-travelers...

I'd rather have a limited one-season Netflix-style series of Jonah Hex, based on the New 52 series. Talullah Black was badass, and Amadeus Arkham was a great foil.

[Autbot_Benz]

Tonight's Legends was very Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff. wow Kendra and Ray got married before that ship that will not be named.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

FINALLY a good episode. Last good episode for us was "Marooned."

Tons of great character development and insight for Rip Hunter (it only took 12 episodes to make him likable), Mick, and Jax. Man, I cried watching Mick talking to his younger self and Jax talking to his father... great, great stuff.

Oh, and the Pilgrim was amazing. Again, it only took 12 episodes to get a compelling villain. Too bad she died.

[Raph's Girl]

I love that Rip's real name is Michael... perhaps named after his father? ;)

[Splinter the boss]

Kid Rip was cool, gotta say.

[Splinter the boss]

Great episode. There definitely was tension the entire episode. Definitely appreciated the atom fight, and the Kendra-Savage encounter. I can't believe Kendra did not finish him, she is weak. Everything the crew ever did was to kill Vandal and stop his reign. I can't believe she gave in.
I hope Rip doesn't hold a grudge.
Savage IS a master mind, always one step ahead.

(Oops) I almost forgot to mention: I liked that daughter thing they got going on.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

CASSANDRA Savage? :trolleye:

That killed a lot of my interest in the show right there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_Savage

[Autbot_Benz]

I liked the episode Ray going Giant was cool even if the CGI was a bit weird on him

[TurtleTitan97]

CASSANDRA Savage? :trolleye:

That killed a lot of my interest in the show right there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_Savage

Maybe it's because I'm not familiar with the character, but how does a name change kill your interest?

As for the episode itself, it was great! Atom vs. Robo Atom had to be the best action scene by far in the show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Maybe it's because I'm not familiar with the character, but how does a name change kill your interest?

As for the episode itself, it was great! Atom vs. Robo Atom had to be the best action scene by far in the show.

The fact that they skipped an opportunity to introduce a colorful rich character like Scandal and went with their weaksauce original replacement instead.

[Cure]

I liked the episode Ray going Giant was cool even if the CGI was a bit weird on him

Yeah, I agree. Like, there are ways of making them look big with camera angles and trickery and whatnot if they were live action.

[Raph's Girl]

CASSANDRA Savage? :trolleye:

That killed a lot of my interest in the show right there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_Savage

You DO know that Vandal has more than one kid right?? Scandal is far from being his only child in the comics. There's also Kassidy Sage. Plus Roy Harper is also one of his descendants. Just because it wasn't Scandal doesn't mean it's the end of the fricken world. At one point in the comics Vandal was using bodyparts of his MILLIONS of descendants to keep him alive.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kassidy_Savage_%28Prime_Earth%29

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You DO know that Vandal has more than one kid right?? Scandal is far from being his only child in the comics. There's also Kassidy Sage. Plus Roy Harper is also one of his descendants. Just because it wasn't Scandal doesn't mean it's the end of the fricken world. At one point in the comics Vandal was using bodyparts of his MILLIONS of descendants to keep him alive.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kassidy_Savage_%28Prime_Earth%29

I dunno, it just feels like Christopher Nolan's "John Robin Blake" again.

[Splinter the boss]

You DO know that Vandal has more than one kid right?? Scandal is far from being his only child in the comics. There's also Kassidy Sage. Plus Roy Harper is also one of his descendants. Just because it wasn't Scandal doesn't mean it's the end of the fricken world. At one point in the comics Vandal was using bodyparts of his MILLIONS of descendants to keep him alive.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kassidy_Savage_%28Prime_Earth%29

Cassidy derives from Cassandra. It's a nickname. Your point stands still.

[TurtleTitan97]

Casting description for two new cast members for season 2:

A male in his late-20s to mid-30s is being sought to play a guy who grew up in the shadow of his World War II hero grandfather and has used a Han Solo-like facade to conceal his insecurity -- until, that is, the development of super powers enables him to live up to his family legacy.

Also being cast for "Legends" Season 2 is the female member of an elite paramilitary team living in the 1940s. An African-American, she is scrutinized in her time for both her gender and race and thus has worked twice as hard to be a perfect soldier. That said, she blames herself for -- and aims to avenge -- the death of a team member for whom she had repressed feelings.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-seeks-super-powered-han-solo-female-soldier-for-season-2

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Casting description for two new cast members for season 2:



http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-seeks-super-powered-han-solo-female-soldier-for-season-2

I have no idea who either of those would be... who do you think they're replacing? I would hope Kendra and Carter, seeing how they are so intrinsically tied to Vandal Savage. With Savage defeated, they don't need to be on the team anymore.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm betting Captain Cold and Heatwave. We need the Rogues (Minus Captain Boomerang) to come together finally.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm betting Captain Cold and Heatwave. We need the Rogues (Minus Captain Boomerang) to come together finally.

Agreed! I'd be just fine with that.

Honestly, I really want all of the Flash characters back on the Flash eventually. :tlol: I really appreciate all the character development Martin Stein, Jefferson, and the Rogues have received from LoT, but I like having all my Flash characters on one show.

[Splinter the boss]

I have no idea who either of those would be... who do you think they're replacing? I would hope Kendra and Carter, seeing how they are so intrinsically tied to Vandal Savage. With Savage defeated, they don't need to be on the team anymore.

I would very much like Savage to be defeated at the end of the show, not in this season Finale. To me, it wouldn't make sense because Savage is the reason they traveled through time. I think it would be better if they had some other villains, or antagonists, like the time masters, in between, and then defeat Savage. Then, they would become legends.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEXy7214Pjs

Kendra continues to be an idiot, who knew?

[TurtleTitan97]

Can't really blame her. Carter did a similar thing when he first revealed the truth to her, and it worked that time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Can't really blame her. Carter did a similar thing when he first revealed the truth to her, and it worked that time.

Get close to the brainwashed killer? Really? Nah.

[TurtleTitan97]

Get close to the brainwashed killer? Really? Nah.

Oh, I thought you were referring to what she was trying to do.

Nevermind, that was a bad idea.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh, I thought you were referring to what she was trying to do.

Nevermind, that was a bad idea.

No no, trying to break through to Carter is perfectly fine. But stepping up that close? :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Ok, I think we can all agree Ray screwed up big time this episode once he released Savage, right? :lol:

[mrmaczaps]

This episode was extremely predictable. I mean they all really have been to some extent but this one was quite pointless because it seemed to go so heavy on the foreshadowing. And it also seemed off for Palmer to freak out and let Vandal under his skin like he's 15 or something...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Does anyone else love how Ray Palmer's entire existence is pain and emptiness? His suffering amuses me.

I assume Jefferson will be rigging the jumpship to return to the Vanishing Point after he's cured in 2016...

[Slade]

I'm a little pissed at this show right now.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm a little pissed at this show right now.

Why? I haven't seen it yet...

[Foombamaroom]

Why? I haven't seen it yet...

They kill off a good character, so I've heard.

[Slade]

They kill off a good character, so I've heard.

You heard correct...

[Foombamaroom]

I just saw who it was.

First Guggenheim kills Laurel instead of Felicity, now this? Christ. So glad I stopped watching this show.

[Autbot_Benz]

I just saw who it was.

First Guggenheim kills Laurel instead of Felicity, now this? Christ. So glad I stopped watching this show.

I read it still has a contract in the berlantiverse to appear as said character so its not the full end for him yet

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Had to look it up. There's no way that character is really dead. No way.

[Autbot_Benz]

Had to look it up. There's no way that character is really dead. No way.

well I read that it had Story by Marc Guggienhiem :lol:

[Foombamaroom]

Had to look it up. There's no way that character is really dead. No way.

He can't be dead! He's a well-established character in the DC universe with so much story potential--

Wait a minute...

[Autbot_Benz]

He can't be dead! He's a well-established character in the DC universe with so much story potential--

Wait a minute...

he isn't this article says he will still be on the other shows

http://deadline.com/2016/05/legends-of-tomorrow-wentworth-miller-exits-regular-berlanti-universe-1201751213/

[TurtleTitan97]

I was surprised that they brought up Thanagar. I wonder if somewhere down the line Katar Hol and Shayera Hol show up and we see the Thanagarian invasion plot adapted. Could make for a neat crossover episode, seeing all the Earth-1 heroes and maybe even Supergirl and Martian Manhunter working together to defeat a global threat.

[mrmaczaps]

I can't understand why they chose that character. There is a scene a few episodes back when that character faces certain death, but escapes and they kind of gloss over a better use for it here... and certainly a more logical use of it here. I'm glad this series is almost done its first season. Hopefully season two will have a new mix of people with better results.

[Darthknuxward]

Wait, who'd they kill off and how?

[TurtleTitan97]

Wait, who'd they kill off and how?

Captain Cold. He sacrificed himself to save the team, but according to Deadline he'll still be appearing in the Arrowverse. We just don't know how or in what capacity.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

If Guggenheim killed off two MAJOR comic characters with so much untapped potential in one year... :flaming::flaming::flaming::flaming:

[Foombamaroom]

If Guggenheim killed off two MAJOR comic characters with so much untapped potential in one year... :flaming::flaming::flaming::flaming:

"Enough with the canon." - Guggenheim.

[Darthknuxward]

Captain Cold. He sacrificed himself to save the team, but according to Deadline he'll still be appearing in the Arrowverse. We just don't know how or in what capacity.

**** Guggenheim. He has not a single clue how to run a good show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well, if Cold is not shown to have survived in the finale, I think we can scratch my CW watchlist down to just The Flash.

[Splinter the boss]

We'll just have to see how things turn out. After all, we weren't sure what happened to Mick until 2 episodes later.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

We'll just have to see how things turn out. After all, we weren't sure what happened to Mick until 2 episodes later.

Exactly.

Still... only one episode left.

[Autbot_Benz]

Greg Berlanti just tweeted

Greg Berlanti ‏@GBerlanti 38m38 minutes ago

Finale episode of #LEGENDSOFTOMORROW tonight. A pretty great surprise at the end so make sure to watch! And thanks for the support this year

[mrmaczaps]

Greg Berlanti just tweeted

Greg Berlanti ‏@GBerlanti 38m38 minutes ago

Finale episode of #LEGENDSOFTOMORROW tonight. A pretty great surprise at the end so make sure to watch! And thanks for the support this year

Tweet him back that he's a dumbass.... about five episodes of this show were good. Half of what's left could have been condensed into less and been better episodes...

Maybe they need some more lens flares...