TMNT 2 to Shoot in Albany

[Vicky82]

New Movie news on the sequel.

Hollywood is returning to the Capital Region. Sources have confirmed to me that a scene in the movie "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2", the sequel to 2014's revival of the longstanding action franchise, will be shot in the city of Albany. The scene will involve a vehicle chase, and shooting will take place sometime in April. The majority of the movie will be shot in NYC, but producers have selected Albany for at least one of the movie's many action scenes.


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So I'm guessing one of the turtles or April driving the turtle van and been chased by the foot soldiers and maybe the turtles will jump car to car taking out the foot.

[Shark_Blade]

Ooo I wonder what kind of action sequences. The snow chase was amazing. :tlove::D

[Galactus]

Wasn't there a scene in the Blue Door with the Foot Militia chasing the TMNT on Motorcycles? I always thought that would be a dead cert for the sequel loath as I am for them to take anything from the Blue Door.

[IndigoErth]

Ah, guess that's the stuff they had intended for next month. Don't wish to speculate too much really, but curious if Albany will be Albany in the film (and therefor a hint of locations for the storyline) or if part of it is simply a setting being used.

Yeah, the motorcycle chase. I believe blue door Shredder was driving one... Honestly, I'd kind of love to see the actual Bay Shredder trying to operate a motorcycle while wearing that metal suit.

[TigerClaw]

New Movie news on the sequel.



http://lights-camera-jackson.com/exclusive-tmnt-2-to-shoot-in-albany1.php

So I'm guessing one of the turtles or April driving the turtle van and been chased by the foot soldiers and maybe the turtles will jump car to car taking out the foot.
Awesome! I wonder if the chase will involve Bebop and Rocksteady on a vehicle.

I hope whoever is at Albany, Can take photos and videos of this shoot, when it happens.

[Powder]

Albany is where they shot the snow chase scene for the first one, it was at a ski resort there. Are we seriously gonna have another snowy mountain car chase? Someone needs to remind this "creative team" that this is A NINJA TURTLE MOVIE, not Die Hard! Christ.

[Bry]

I mean, it's a Michael Bay production. He's perfected the art of doing the exact same thing again and again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rfup0XKx7o) while getting people to keep throwing money at him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if TMNT2 is effectively the exact same movie as the first one.

[IndigoErth]

Albany is where they shot the snow chase scene for the first one, it was at a ski resort there.
Ahh, is that what it was. I'd wondered but had never gotten around to trying to figure it out. I know the winding roads seen for a moment (twice?) is supposedly in Hawks Nest (a small easter egg to me because I'd found out that the river that's seen for a second is the northern end the Delaware - I live near the south end, in the state that shares it's name :D), had thought the building might have been around there, too.

Anyhow, I hope they don't do a repeat. I'm guessing that Sacks is just still located there and is probably behind the creation of Bebop and Rocksteady within that place.

[TigerClaw]

Ahh, is that what it was. I'd wondered but had never gotten around to trying to figure it out. I know the winding roads seen for a moment (twice?) is supposedly in Hawks Nest (a small easter egg to me because I'd found out that the river that's seen for a second is the northern end the Delaware - I live near the south end, in the state that shares it's name :D), had thought the building might have been around there, too.

Anyhow, I hope they don't do a repeat. I'm guessing that Sacks is just still located there and is probably behind the creation of Bebop and Rocksteady within that place.
I bet it'll be somewhere along the lines of Secret of the Ooze, Shredder has Sacks create an army of Mutants for him, and Bebop and Rocksteady are the result of that.

[Kanon]

Or they will make Baxter Stockman create new Mutants for Shredder with the laboratory Sacks left behind?
(the credits say that he appeared in the first, but I didn´t noticed him. :ohwell:)

[Commenter 42]

Second verse, same as the first!

Oy veh. At least this disaster has three fans going in, or one person with three accounts...who can tell these days!:roll:

[Candy Kappa]

Or they will make Baxter Stockman create new Mutants for Shredder with the laboratory Sacks left behind?
(the credits say that he appeared in the first, but I didn´t noticed him. :ohwell:)

Baxter's cameo is so quick it's blink and you'll miss it. He's basically black background scientist with no speaking lines.

[TrickOrTreater]

I mean, it's a Michael Bay production. He's perfected the art of doing the exact same thing again and again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rfup0XKx7o) while getting people to keep throwing money at him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if TMNT2 is effectively the exact same movie as the first one.

I knew it was Half in the Bag before I even clicked the link.

Completely blown away when I saw it. They're nearly the exact same f*cking movie. THREE TIMES.

Second verse, same as the first!

Oy veh. At least this disaster has three fans going in, or one person with three accounts...who can tell these days!:roll:

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So I'm guessing one of the turtles or April driving the turtle van and been chased by the foot soldiers and maybe the turtles will jump car to car taking out the foot.

So the exact same scene as the snow mountain chase in the first movie, except with MAYBE the Turtle van and MAYBE huge, probably racist versions of Bebop and Rocksteady.

Reminds of this quote from Futurama:

Clever things make people feel stupid and unexpected things make them feel scared.

Can't make your movie too smart or feature too many new/interesting ideas. Gotta be the exact same thing over and over again. THAT'S what the people want!

[Vicky82]

So the exact same scene as the snow mountain chase in the first movie, except with MAYBE the Turtle van and MAYBE huge, probably racist versions of Bebop and Rocksteady.


Yeah, but it won't be in the snowy mountains though but probably on a motorway or a main road with other cars getting caught up in the crossfire.

[TigerClaw]

They are probably shooting in Albana, Because, that's where they shot Erick Sack's base.

I'm willing to bet that, Shredder goes to Erick Sack's place, Hands him the Mutagen canister, And its where Bebop and Rocksteady are created.

[Gunpowder]

Albany is where they shot the snow chase scene for the first one, it was at a ski resort there. Are we seriously gonna have another snowy mountain car chase? Someone needs to remind this "creative team" that this is A NINJA TURTLE MOVIE, not Die Hard! Christ.

The snow scene was one of the most well-received bits from the first film, even from the harshest of critics. And the production team is well aware of that, so yeah. Wouldn't surprise me if it was repeated.

Me? I like that scene less and less each time I see it, so I wouldn't be fond of that particular deja vu.

Oy veh. At least this disaster has three fans going in, or one person with three accounts...who can tell these days!:roll:

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Based on the fact that it's being filmed in Albany (unless there's something I missed)? At least give it some time to breathe.

I'm willing to bet that, Shredder goes to Erick Sack's place, Hands him the Mutagen canister, And its where Bebop and Rocksteady are created.

Assuming Sacks lived, and that they won't pitch his character. It wouldn't be wise to keep him, considering how redundant of a character he is - although I do like William Fichtner a lot.

[TigerClaw]

Assuming Sacks lived, and that they won't pitch his character. It wouldn't be wise to keep him, considering how redundant of a character he is - although I do like William Fichtner a lot.
He most likely ended up in jail by the end of the 1st film, But he probably bailed himself out with all his money, And then he goes back to his home that's near the snowy mountains, then Shredder makes a surprise visit, Hands him the vial of mutagen.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

If Platinum Dunes was run by intelligent decision-makers, they would ditch the worst parts of the 2014 movie that would have little impact on the story going forward.

I nominate Vernon and Sachs. Sachs was going to have huge impact, and then the script was violently castrated. Vernon is just annoying as well as useless.

And where most of you would argue against Megan Fox (some of you with legitimate grievances, while I suspect a good number of you simply hate on her because everyone else does), recasting her would have a much more visible impact on the movie going forward, and as such is much less likely to happen.

But please, for the love of God, don't bring back Vernon or Sachs. PLEASE.

Oh, and the Blue Door script was 75% crap, but it did have some gems. The Bebop & Rocksteady versus Splinter fight was pretty awesome, and I hope they keep it for the 2016 sequel!

[B-Man]

The show chase was awesome. One of those in a new setting with Bebop & Rocksteady thrown in the mix sounds f**kin brilliant to me :lol: Would kill to see that.

[IndigoErth]

He did dip his finger into what was left after the container was smashed, while he was laying in a crater in the pavement. So even if they don't even have any more mutagen, me thinks he will be sneaky and will analyze that small sample in order to recreate it.


I'm sure the only way Fox would be out is if she herself chose not to return to it. Probably have a better chance of winning the lotto than her being replaced. As long as sorts like Bay are involved, no way they're taking out the woman with a camera target on her ass. After all, in the 21st century that is more important than, you know, the acting, more suitable casting, etc. :roll:

[pennydreadful]

The scene will involve a vehicle chase, and shooting will take place sometime in April.

Car chases and resultant car-crashing mayhem have always been my favorite part of TMNT. I really hope that there's an explosion in the chase scene. Explosions are the awesomest, you guys.

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[TrickOrTreater]

Car chases and resultant car-crashing mayhem have always been my favorite part of TMNT. I really hope that there's an explosion in the chase scene. Explosions are the awesomest, you guys.

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And just think of all the stereotype Bebop and Rocksteady will be!

And all of the Megan Fox ass we'll see!

Won't it be great?!

[Autbot_Benz]

nobody knows if Bebop and Rocksteady will be stereotypies or anything calm down TrollorTreater

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bebop is traditionally black. Odds of an offensive ethnic stereotype? 2 to 1, I'd say.

Rocksteady is lately Russian. Odds of an awesome Russian stereotype? Not sure.

Sorry, I'm a sucker for Russian tough-guy accents. :tlol:

[TrickOrTreater]

nobody knows if Bebop and Rocksteady will be stereotypies or anything calm down TrollorTreater

Hey man I think you misspelled my name. It's cool just double check next time you know?

Anyway yes they totally will be. :lol:

[pennydreadful]

Fifty bucks says there's a line of dialogue where Bebop says he can't read something. For the lulz, yo.

Then Rocksteady can piledrive two of the Turtles through a building (one Turtle for each hand), and the building can collapse. Audiences like it when things fall down and go boom, right? It'll be exxxtreme to the max!

Then Bebop and Rocksteady will finally be defeated when Mikey takes them both down by throwing bottles of Crush soda at them (product placement - check!). Right in the middle of the big fight scene between Super Shredder and the other three Turtles, Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!) from the top of another skyscraper. Utterly epic.

The final scene shows shows all of our heroes together. They've won the day and saved the city from certain something - doom, viruses, plotholes, military whatsits... the specifics aren't important, we'll fix it in post. What is important is that Fox O'Neil is in her bikini, washing the Turtle van. The Turtles, Splinter and Vern are all sitting in the background reading Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's a fun and heartwarming scene.

Cut it and print it - I think this one's in the bag, folks! :tcool: You can give me my $500 million now, thanks.

[Xav]

But please, for the love of God, don't bring back Vernon or Sachs. PLEASE.

Oh, and the Blue Door script was 75% crap, but it did have some gems. The Bebop & Rocksteady versus Splinter fight was pretty awesome, and I hope they keep it for the 2016 sequel!You're too late, both actors have already announced they are returning.

Oh and seeing a ninja master get his ass handed to him by the villain's incompetent hechmen? Yeah that is so awesome.:roll:

[Xiewin]

Fifty bucks says there's a line of dialogue where Bebop says he can't read something. For the lulz, yo.

Then Rocksteady can piledrive two of the Turtles through a building (one Turtle for each hand), and the building can collapse. Audiences like it when things fall down and go boom, right? It'll be exxxtreme to the max!

Then Bebop and Rocksteady will finally be defeated when Mikey takes them both down by throwing bottles of Crush soda at them (product placement - check!). Right in the middle of the big fight scene between Super Shredder and the other three Turtles, Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!) from the top of another skyscraper. Utterly epic.

The final scene shows shows all of our heroes together. They've won the day and saved the city from certain something - doom, viruses, plotholes, military whatsits... the specifics aren't important, we'll fix it in post. What is important is that Fox O'Neil is in her bikini, washing the Turtle van. The Turtles, Splinter and Vern are all sitting in the background reading Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's a fun and heartwarming scene.

Cut it and print it - I think this one's in the bag, folks! :tcool: You can give me my $500 million now, thanks.

Best thing I read all day :lol:

[IndigoErth]

Fifty bucks says there's a line of dialogue where Bebop says he can't read something. For the lulz, yo.

Then Rocksteady can piledrive two of the Turtles through a building (one Turtle for each hand), and the building can collapse. Audiences like it when things fall down and go boom, right? It'll be exxxtreme to the max!

Then Bebop and Rocksteady will finally be defeated when Mikey takes them both down by throwing bottles of Crush soda at them (product placement - check!). Right in the middle of the big fight scene between Super Shredder and the other three Turtles, Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!) from the top of another skyscraper. Utterly epic.

The final scene shows shows all of our heroes together. They've won the day and saved the city from certain something - doom, viruses, plotholes, military whatsits... the specifics aren't important, we'll fix it in post. What is important is that Fox O'Neil is in her bikini, washing the Turtle van. The Turtles, Splinter and Vern are all sitting in the background reading Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's a fun and heartwarming scene.

Cut it and print it - I think this one's in the bag, folks! :tcool: You can give me my $500 million now, thanks.
That was beautiful. :lol:
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And unfortunately for those film makers probably 10x more creative than anything they could ever come up with.

[TrickOrTreater]

Fifty bucks says there's a line of dialogue where Bebop says he can't read something. For the lulz, yo.

Then Rocksteady can piledrive two of the Turtles through a building (one Turtle for each hand), and the building can collapse. Audiences like it when things fall down and go boom, right? It'll be exxxtreme to the max!

Then Bebop and Rocksteady will finally be defeated when Mikey takes them both down by throwing bottles of Crush soda at them (product placement - check!). Right in the middle of the big fight scene between Super Shredder and the other three Turtles, Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!) from the top of another skyscraper. Utterly epic.

The final scene shows shows all of our heroes together. They've won the day and saved the city from certain something - doom, viruses, plotholes, military whatsits... the specifics aren't important, we'll fix it in post. What is important is that Fox O'Neil is in her bikini, washing the Turtle van. The Turtles, Splinter and Vern are all sitting in the background reading Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's a fun and heartwarming scene.

Cut it and print it - I think this one's in the bag, folks! :tcool: You can give me my $500 million now, thanks.

You've figured out the formula.

Michael Bay's solid gold kill-bots with his face on them are on their way.

[IndigoErth]

Michael Bay's solid gold kill-bots with his face on them are on their way.
Is it wrong my first thought was a rather satisfying image of taking a baseball bat to them...

Gold is a soft metal, it won't be difficult; on the contrary it will be fun. (Come, Turtles, join us and seek your vengeance.)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You're too late, both actors have already announced they are returning.

Oh and seeing a ninja master get his ass handed to him by the villain's incompetent hechmen? Yeah that is so awesome.:roll:

More Vernon... yay. More Eric Sachs... yay. Or rather, DAMMIT. :flaming:

I don't recall Splinter getting his ass handed to him by B&R in the script. Actually, he does a pretty good job of cleaning up. Except for the sheer mass and strength they possess, of course... not very unlike the current IDW comics.

[Bry]

Fifty bucks says there's a line of dialogue where Bebop says he can't read something. For the lulz, yo.

Then Rocksteady can piledrive two of the Turtles through a building (one Turtle for each hand), and the building can collapse. Audiences like it when things fall down and go boom, right? It'll be exxxtreme to the max!

Then Bebop and Rocksteady will finally be defeated when Mikey takes them both down by throwing bottles of Crush soda at them (product placement - check!). Right in the middle of the big fight scene between Super Shredder and the other three Turtles, Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!) from the top of another skyscraper. Utterly epic.

The final scene shows shows all of our heroes together. They've won the day and saved the city from certain something - doom, viruses, plotholes, military whatsits... the specifics aren't important, we'll fix it in post. What is important is that Fox O'Neil is in her bikini, washing the Turtle van. The Turtles, Splinter and Vern are all sitting in the background reading Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's a fun and heartwarming scene.

Cut it and print it - I think this one's in the bag, folks! :tcool: You can give me my $500 million now, thanks.

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More Vernon... yay. More Eric Sachs... yay. Or rather, DAMMIT. :flaming:

To be honest -- and it's a low bar here, so keep that in mind -- what other performances really stood out in this movie? Megan Fox was Megan Fox, Whoopi Goldberg, Minae Noji and Tohoru Masamune had almost nothing to work with, and while the Turtles' actors got some praise around here, honestly, only Noel Fisher as Michelangelo impressed me much at all - and even then the material didn't do him any favours. The material was bad, but Fichtner and Arnett are both very competent actors who were able to make some impression in spite of it -- not a great impression, but again, low bar.

So I can see why the studio might see them as assets to this series. It's pathetic that two of the few roles that could be seen as "highlights" (at least compared to everything else) have absolutely nothing to do with the actual concept, but that's the movie they chose to make. :ohwell:

[Commenter 42]

I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones to win April's affections, and one of the Shreks will get Jealous.

B&R will show up inexlicably (significantly redesigned, of course), and this time you'll see product placement mid car chase.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

To be honest -- and it's a low bar here, so keep that in mind -- what other performances really stood out in this movie? Megan Fox was Megan Fox, Whoopi Goldberg, Minae Noji and Tohoru Masamune had almost nothing to work with, and while the Turtles' actors got some praise around here, honestly, only Noel Fisher as Michelangelo impressed me much at all - and even then the material didn't do him any favours. The material was bad, but Fichtner and Arnett are both very competent actors who were able to make some impression in spite of it -- not a great impression, but again, low bar.

So I can see why the studio might see them as assets to this series. It's pathetic that two of the few roles that could be seen as "highlights" (at least compared to everything else) have absolutely nothing to do with the actual concept, but that's the movie they chose to make. :ohwell:

Gah. Your logic frightens and depresses me. Personally, I think all of the mocap and voice-acting for the four Turtles was great. But apparently, unless you're Andy Serkis, you're not a real actor if you do mocap. :tgrumble: So you gotta have human faces to promote your film, so the little kiddies can identify who you are.

I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones to win April's affections, and one of the Shreks will get Jealous.

I am honestly frightened that this may be the case. What I would LOVE to see is Vern get killed and his cousin Casey comes to avenge him. Odds on that happening?

... Same as the odds that Oroku Saki was a former exosuit used by Ch'rell, who had moved on to become Eric Sachs in America. Remember that theory, when we were desperately clinging to hope? :tcry:

[bushido]

I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones to win April's affections, and one of the Shreks will get Jealous.

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It gets worse and worse...

[Bry]

Gah. Your logic frightens and depresses me. Personally, I think all of the mocap and voice-acting for the four Turtles was great. But apparently, unless you're Andy Serkis, you're not a real actor if you do mocap. :tgrumble: So you gotta have human faces to promote your film, so the little kiddies can identify who you are.

Hey, I don't agree with it, but a lot of people think that way - including a lot movie executives. There's a reason the "human" characters tend to get the focus in movies with mocap/creature characters. And then there's the expense issue - we know for a fact that they cut a lot of things out of this movie because they couldn't afford to animate it all, so from get-go there's a limit on how much the Turtles are going to be on-screen in their own movie, and even then, when they are on screen they're mainly going to use that time for over-the-top action at the expense of any actual character work. So, y'know - just have Megan Fox running around and bring in the guy from Arrested Development to make wisecracks with the bulk of the screentime that's left, right? (All this has been covered here before, but y'know, bears repeating.)

I wasn't trying to disparage the Turtles' actors, though. I do think they did their absolute best, so I should have worded that differently - it's the material, the direction, and the style of the movie that let them down. Donnie and Raph were bland stereotypes, Leo didn't have much personality to speak of. They could have, and for all I know they did before the footage was hacked to pieces, but it doesn't come across in the movie as it was released, IMO.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hey, I don't agree with it, but a lot of people think that way - including a lot movie executives. There's a reason the "human" characters tend to get the focus in movies with mocap/creature characters. And then there's the expense issue - we know for a fact that they cut a lot of things out of this movie because they couldn't afford to animate it all, so from get-go there's a limit on how much the Turtles are going to be on-screen in their own movie, and even then, when they are on screen they're mainly going to use that time for over-the-top action at the expense of any actual character work. So, y'know - just have Megan Fox running around and bring in the guy from Arrested Development to make wisecracks with the bulk of the screentime that's left, right? (All this has been covered here before, but y'know, bears repeating.)

I wasn't trying to disparage the Turtles' actors, though. I do think they did their absolute best, so I should have worded that differently - it's the material, the direction, and the style of the movie that let them down. Donnie and Raph were bland stereotypes, Leo didn't have much personality to speak of. They could have, and for all I know they did before the footage was hacked to pieces, but it doesn't come across in the movie as it was released, IMO.

Exactly. And from a business POV, it makes some sense... but from a story POV, it's terrible and somewhat insulting, too. Come watch April, Vern, Sachs, oh, and some mutant CGI characters, too!

Donnie was definitely the worst stereotype. I really wish they'd toned down the nerdisms on him.

[Gunpowder]

Fox O'Neil can tear off her Victoria's Secret bra (more product placement - check!) and throw it at Shredder - his feet will get tangled in the bra straps and he will fall to his death (or will he?! Dun dun DUUUUN!)

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You're too late, both actors have already announced they are returning.

Have they? Crap...

There's a reason the "human" characters tend to get the focus in movies with mocap/creature characters. And then there's the expense issue - we know for a fact that they cut a lot of things out of this movie because they couldn't afford to animate it all, so from get-go there's a limit on how much the Turtles are going to be on-screen in their own movie, and even then, when they are on screen they're mainly going to use that time for over-the-top action at the expense of any actual character work. So, y'know - just have Megan Fox running around and bring in the guy from Arrested Development to make wisecracks with the bulk of the screentime that's left, right? (All this has been covered here before, but y'know, bears repeating.)

If they didn't have the Turtles constantly in motion and pulling off otherwise impossible acrobatic stunts, then I imagine they'd be able to afford a lot more screen time for them. Have the Turtles goof off & lounge in the lair for a scene or two - is that too much to ask? .......oh, it is? Damn. :ohwell:

[Bry]

If they didn't have the Turtles constantly in motion and pulling off otherwise impossible acrobatic stunts, then I imagine they'd be able to afford a lot more screen time for them. Have the Turtles goof off & lounge in the lair for a scene or two - is that too much to ask? .......oh, it is? Damn. :ohwell:

If my knowledge is correct here, even that is very expensive. I thought there was some interview with the cast where they said they had to cut some scenes alone those lines because they were putting most of the CGI/animation money on action scenes? (Unless I imagined that?)

[Gunpowder]

If my knowledge is correct here, even that is very expensive. I thought there was some interview with the cast where they said they had to cut some scenes alone those lines because they were putting most of the CGI/animation money on action scenes? (Unless I imagined that?)

Nah, you're probably right. I feel like it'd be cheaper to have them be still, but merely having them on the screen might cost the same regardless of what they're doing; I honestly have no idea. Either way, I think some down-time scenes are something the sequel needs, since the lack thereof was one of the first movie's weak points. Just my opinion.

[TigerClaw]

Nah, you're probably right. I feel like it'd be cheaper to have them be still, but merely having them on the screen might cost the same regardless of what they're doing; I honestly have no idea. Either way, I think some down-time scenes are something the sequel needs, since the lack thereof was one of the first movie's weak points. Just my opinion.
Which is interesting because, Jeremy Howard who plays Donatello, Says he would like to see the sequel have quieter moments.

[Bry]

Nah, you're probably right. I feel like it'd be cheaper to have them be still, but merely having them on the screen might cost the same regardless of what they're doing; I honestly have no idea. Either way, I think some down-time scenes are something the sequel needs, since the lack thereof was one of the first movie's weak points. Just my opinion.

It's entirely possible -- or hell, even probable -- that the "quiet moments" are cheaper, but they're still so expensive (and massively more expensive compared to filming Megan Fox running around) that unless it's absolutely necessary, they won't justify spending that kind of money on it unless it's pure action spectacle. Consider the mindset going into making these movies - I'm sure any CGI/effects moment that isn't crazy/explosive action is deemed "boring" by the people calling the shots. Unfortunately.

[TigerClaw]

It's entirely possible -- or hell, even probable -- that the "quiet moments" are cheaper, but they're still so expensive (and massively more expensive than filming Megan Fox running around) that they won't justify spending that kind of money on it unless it's pure action spectacle, unless absolutely necessary. Consider the mindset going into making these movies - I'm sure any CGI/effects moment that isn't crazy/explosive action is deemed "boring" by the people calling the shots. Unfortunately.
Those quieter moments would add to the running time, If they had quieter moments in the sequel, It'll probably run around 2 hours.

[Bry]

Those quieter moments would add to the running time, If they had quieter moments in the sequel, It'll probably run around 2 hours.

Sure. And most comic/action movies are around two hours long these days, which is why they can deliver great action scenes and the essential character/plot work that makes it hold together as a story. TMNT could have had that too. I wonder if it's purely a budget decision, or if the Platinum Dunes producers just don't think that their audience can or will pay attention that long?

[Autbot_Benz]

Sure. And most comic/action movies are two hours long these days, which is why they can deliver great action scenes and the essential character/plot work that makes it hold together as a story. TMNT could have had that too. I wonder if it's purely a budget decision, or if the Platinum Dunes producers just don't think that their audience can or will pay attention that long?

well Transformers 4 was about 2.75 hours long so they have no excuse making turtles 2 short.

[Bry]

well Transformers 4 was about 3 hours long so they have no excuse making turtles 2 short.

I still can't believe it was that long. And from what I heard they didn't use that time to improve the plot or characters one bit. (A few friends went to see it and fell asleep in the theatre.)

[Vicky82]

well Transformers 4 was about 2.75 hours long so they have no excuse making turtles 2 short.

I still can't believe it was that long. And from what I heard they didn't use that time to improve the plot or characters one bit. (A few friends went to see it and fell asleep in the theatre.)

It was too damn long and I didn't understand what the hell was going on, it felt like 2 plot stories jumbled up so it didn't make any sense. I nearly fell asleep watching it. :ohwell:

[Bry]

So basically - you need enough time to let the story breathe and give the characters some depth, but you also need actual good writing and directing to make it work at all.

That said... the 1990 movie was only 93 minutes long and it managed to do right by (most of) the characters and make you care about them and their story. So the latter part's definitely the most important one. :twink:

(I know the 1990 movie gets brought up a lot here, but I think it's a good example of using runtime and action/character balance effectively.)

[TigerClaw]

Sure. And most comic/action movies are around two hours long these days, which is why they can deliver great action scenes and the essential character/plot work that makes it hold together as a story. TMNT could have had that too. I wonder if it's purely a budget decision, or if the Platinum Dunes producers just don't think that their audience can or will pay attention that long?
Platinum Dunes originally started out as a Production Company to make movies on a low budget.

[Autbot_Benz]

I still can't believe it was that long. And from what I heard they didn't use that time to improve the plot or characters one bit. (A few friends went to see it and fell asleep in the theatre.)

to each their own but I found Optimus's character better flushed out than the other autobots

[Gunpowder]

well Transformers 4 was about 2.75 hours long so they have no excuse making turtles 2 short.

Didn't the first Transformers reach the 2 1/2-hour mark? Or at least near it? Its budget was only $25 million more than TMNT, and the former was 2.5 hours while the latter was 1.75. So I think the post-production cuts and reshoots for Turtles had something to do with the shorter length, 'cause with the additional footage it may very well been 2 hours.

[TigerClaw]

Didn't the first Transformers reach the 2 1/2-hour mark? Or at least near it? Its budget was only $25 million more than TMNT, and the former was 2.5 hours while the latter was 1.75. So I think the post-production cuts and reshoots for Turtles had something to do with the shorter length, 'cause with the additional footage it may very well been 2 hours.
Transformers isn't exactly a family friendly film, Which is why they can get away with most of the stuff.

TMNT is owned by Nickelodeon, Who is all about being family friendly, I'm sure they want the movies to appeal to Kids more then to appeal to the adults, Which is probably why the running time is under 2 hours.

I'm sure Nick doesn't want the movies to have too much quieter scenes, Cause they think the kids only want action.

[Bry]

Transformers isn't exactly a family friendly film, Which is why they can get away with most of the stuff.

TMNT is owned by Nickelodeon, Who is all about being family friendly, I'm sure they want the movies to appeal to Kids more then to appeal to the adults, Which is probably why the running time is under 2 hours.

That's the weird part, though - Transformers originated as a toy line and a children's cartoon. With guns and violence, admittedly, but still - aimed at kids.

TMNT originated as a violent indie comic, but was popularized by a toy line and a children's cartoon.

Gotta wonder why Paramount's a-okay with Transformers movies being so long and violent, while TMNT has to be short and (comparatively) more kid-friendly.

I'm sure Nick doesn't want the movies to have too much quieter scenes, Cause they think the kids only want action.

That's likely the case, and it's really unfortunate. They're cynically underestimating their audience. The TMNT story/property has a lot more potential than that, but they're cutting it off at the knees.

[IndigoErth]

I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones
Hey, I've been saying that for a while, "called it" credit will have to be shared. lol :P But yeah, I really could see these film makers turning Casey into Vern's secret identity. Esp as a way of trying to make their version different. (Although I admit I'd be curious to see what the outrage looked like.)

[TigerClaw]

That's the weird part, though - Transformers originated as a toy line and a children's cartoon. With guns and violence, admittedly, but still - aimed at kids.

TMNT originated as a violent indie comic, but was popularized by a toy line and a children's cartoon.

Gotta wonder why Paramount's a-okay with Transformers movies being so long and violent, while TMNT has to be short and (comparatively) more kid-friendly.
Well, Keep in mind Transformers is own by Hasbro, And they don't care if those movies are violent or not, Since those toys will sell very well for them.

Nick on the other hand, Has a strong focus, on being kid friendly with all the properties that they own, I'm sure they gave the filmmakers some guidelines that it should be aimed at the Kids.

Remember the interview with Michael Bay and the Producers, talking about the issues they had with the TMNT movie, regarding the tone? I bet its cause Nick wanted the movie to be kid friendly and less dark.

[Bry]

Well, Keep in mind Transformers is own by Hasbro, And they don't care if those movies are violent or not, Since those toys will sell very well for them.

Nick on the other hand, Has a strong focus, on being kid friendly with all the properties that they own, I'm sure they gave the filmmakers some guidelines that it should be aimed at the Kids.

Very possible too. But... even the Nick cartoon has gotten pretty intense, serious and character-driven beyond what many might expect from a "kids' show". Though a major motion picture likely has a lot more executive attention/meddling, so there's that.

[Gunpowder]

Transformers isn't exactly a family friendly film, Which is why they can get away with most of the stuff.

TMNT is owned by Nickelodeon, Who is all about being family friendly, I'm sure they want the movies to appeal to Kids more then to appeal to the adults, Which is probably why the running time is under 2 hours.

I'm sure Nick doesn't want the movies to have too much quieter scenes, Cause they think the kids only want action.

You might have a point there. But I still think they originally intended to make Turtles longer than it was. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Transformers wasn't at least somewhat kid-oriented. I'd say pre-teens and young teens were most definitely the target audience.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well, Keep in mind Transformers is own by Hasbro, And they don't care if those movies are violent or not, Since those toys will sell very well for them.

Nick on the other hand, Has a strong focus, on being kid friendly with all the properties that they own, I'm sure they gave the filmmakers some guidelines that it should be aimed at the Kids.

Remember the interview with Michael Bay and the Producers, talking about the issues they had with the TMNT movie, regarding the tone? I bet its cause Nick wanted the movie to be kid friendly and less dark.

Even though Nick wanted more "kid friendly", that still wouldn't have solved any of the many MANY problems of this film. :tgrumble:

[Bry]

Even though Nick wanted more "kid friendly", that still wouldn't have solved any of the many MANY problems of this film. :tgrumble:

Oh, totally. But the same "it's for kids!" mindset probably helped them answer all of those problems/questions with "who cares?". Odds are they just didn't think it mattered. Which is a lousy attitude no matter who your audience is - it sells the audience short and assumes they don't care or won't want anything better or more. Lousy, cynical filmmaking.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh, totally. But the same "it's for kids!" mindset probably helped them answer all of those problems/questions with "who cares?". Odds are they just didn't think it mattered. Which is a lousy attitude no matter who your audience is - it sells the audience short and assumes they don't care or won't want anything better or more. Lousy, cynical filmmaking.

Agreed. Honestly, of all the comic book movies in the last decade (since they exploded onto screen), 2014 TMNT has to be the worst ever. So much potential, and yet nobody running it bothered to give a frak.

I've hated my share of current movies (IM3 for the "Mandarin", Thor 1&2 for being meh, Man of Steel for carnage/destruction overload), but that's been on creative choices or playing it safe. TMNT was just... damn. :tcry:

So basically - you need enough time to let the story breathe and give the characters some depth, but you also need actual good writing and directing to make it work at all.

That said... the 1990 movie was only 93 minutes long and it managed to do right by (most of) the characters and make you care about them and their story. So the latter part's definitely the most important one. :twink:

(I know the 1990 movie gets brought up a lot here, but I think it's a good example of using runtime and action/character balance effectively.)

I need to watch it again, it's been years (a recently purchased DVD is sitting on my shelf and waiting for me)... but it's AMAZING how much they crammed into that 1.5 hour movie without it feeling overblown.

Faithful adaptations of Raph meeting Casey Jones, Shredder, the Northampton retreat, plus managing to balance many characters (Splinter, TMNT, Shredder, Casey, April, and some new characters I never cared about). I don't think the movie aged well in some parts (those baby turtle Muppets are atrocious) and the final fight was cheesy when Shredder's standing around flexing waiting for them to attack... but wow. So much heart in its production! So many people giving a frak!

[Commenter 42]

Hey, I've been saying that for a while, "called it" credit will have to be shared. lol :P But yeah, I really could see these film makers turning Casey into Vern's secret identity. Esp as a way of trying to make their version different. (Although I admit I'd be curious to see what the outrage looked like.)

I wasn't laying claim to the idea, simply playing the odds. There's been no casting announcement, so it seems probable.

I hate the idea, as much as I hate the abomination that was the first film. Turn them into battle toads already, and leave my mother ****ing turtles alone!

And why the **** are there car chases? Who the **** besides Sharktroll and his buddies would want more car chases?

[TigerClaw]

The car chases needs to involve the Turtle Van, We need to see that thing in action, TMNT had its share of car chases, Look at the Nick series, There were a couple involving the Turtle Van.

[Commenter 42]

The car chases needs to involve the Turtle Van, We need to see that thing in action, TMNT had its share of car chases, Look at the Nick series, There were a couple involving the Turtle Van.

Fight scenes should supersede car chases, no? Car chases are also damned boring.

[TigerClaw]

Fight scenes should supersede car chases, no? Car chases are also damned boring.
You can have fight scenes right on top of a car chase.

[DarkFell]

The first three TMNT movies didn't even need car chases and yet they did fine on their own merits. *I still haven't seen all of TMNT 2007.*

Great character development will always beat car pursuits hands down.

[Commenter 42]

You can have fight scenes right on top of a car chase.

Exactly the answer I expected from you.

[TrickOrTreater]

Remember the interview with Michael Bay and the Producers, talking about the issues they had with the TMNT movie, regarding the tone? I bet its cause Nick wanted the movie to be kid friendly and less dark.

No, this is patently f*cking false.

Michael Bay said he saw a cut, it was too serious, and HE said to lighten the thing up. Not Nick.

Michael Bay and his production studio made this film suck. Not Nick.

[IndigoErth]

And why the **** are there car chases? Who the **** besides Sharktroll and his buddies would want more car chases?
Car chases sell me vehicle toys?

[Commenter 42]

Car chases sell me vehicle toys?

I guess, WTF, Will Arnett as Jones and car chase. **** it. Let's add some other random **** to the pile.

Anyone have further terrible suggestions?

[TrickOrTreater]

Hey, I've been saying that for a while, "called it" credit will have to be shared. lol :P But yeah, I really could see these film makers turning Casey into Vern's secret identity. Esp as a way of trying to make their version different. (Although I admit I'd be curious to see what the outrage looked like.)

I hate how much this makes sense in the crap universe they've created.

Vernon is jealous of how badass the Turtles are and how much times Megan Fox spends with them, so he becomes a vigilante called Casey Jones(because it sounds cool) after training with the Turtles off and on, and he lucks and bumbles his way through it.

Goddammit.

[Commenter 42]

I hate how much this makes sense in the crap universe they've created.

Vernon is jealous of how badass the Turtles are and how much times Megan Fox spends with them, so he becomes a vigilante called Casey Jones(because it sounds cool) after training with the Turtles off and on, and he lucks and bumbles his way through it.

Goddammit.

Exactly, and, it's cheaper than adding one more actor to the cast! Cheap and stupid is PD's slogan!

[TrickOrTreater]

Exactly, and, it's cheaper than adding one more actor to the cast! Cheap and stupid is PD's slogan!

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbhli9YnFe1qcepzco1_500.gif

[IndigoErth]

Although... then again, if they can somehow nab a big name for Casey, then they can put that money there and have an excuse for skimping on quality in some area that would have otherwise been considered necessary.

Or go all out in unnecessary excess and make him CGI.

[pennydreadful]

I guess, WTF, Will Arnett as Jones and car chase. **** it. Let's add some other random **** to the pile.

Anyone have further terrible suggestions?

Challenge accepted. Let's literally have a fight scene on top of a car chase. Fox O'Neil is driving the car (followed by several Hummers full of nefarious military-esque villains who are shooting at them), while two of the other characters are brawling on top of the moving vehicle that Fox is driving... we'll choose Rocksteady and Raph because it will be way brutal, brah. Rocksteady and Raph don't have to worry about the shooters who are firing, because they are both bulletproof. We throw in a little shaky-cam action so you can't really tell what's going on, a flurry of CG and bam - you've got your Bayhem. I'm telling you, the audiences will love it - don't be a hater, you just don't understand that it's popcorn entertainment, mmkay?

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope. In this movie, Vernon's going to take out Sacks by throwing a ham sandwich at him. Sacks will slip on it and, because he's about 60 years old, will throw out his hip - thus putting him out of action til BayTurtles 3. Audiences love bumbling anti-heroes, comedic relief and hilarious pratfalls. Don't argue with me - I am a genius and you are all just jealous hater-nerds who can't appreciate a movie without picking it to pieces. :tcool:



Dang, I should'a gone into the movie biz years ago - I could've been a squillionaire like Bay by now! :twink:

[TrickOrTreater]

Challenge accepted. Let's literally have a fight scene on top of a car chase. Fox O'Neil is driving the car (followed by several Hummers full of nefarious military-esque villains who are shooting at them), while two of the other characters are brawling on top of the moving vehicle that Fox is driving... we'll choose Rocksteady and Raph because it will be way brutal, brah. Rocksteady and Raph don't have to worry about the shooters who are firing, because they are both bulletproof. We throw in a little shaky-cam action so you can't really tell what's going on, a flurry of CG and bam - you've got your Bayhem. I'm telling you, the audiences will love it - don't be a hater, you just don't understand that it's popcorn entertainment, mmkay?

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope. In this movie, Vernon's going to take out Sacks by throwing a ham sandwich at him. Sacks will slip on it and, because he's about 60 years old, will throw out his hip - thus putting him out of action til BayTurtles 3. Audiences love bumbling anti-heroes, comedic relief and hilarious pratfalls. Don't argue with me - I am a genius and you are all just jealous hater-nerds who can't appreciate a movie without picking it to pieces. :tcool:

Dang, I should'a gone into the movie biz years ago - I could've been a squillionaire like Bay by now! :twink:

http://i.imgur.com/Nd5Vbyo.gif?1

[IndigoErth]

Challenge accepted. Let's literally have a fight scene on top of a car chase. Fox O'Neil is driving the car (followed by several Hummers full of nefarious military-esque villains who are shooting at them), while two of the other characters are brawling on top of the moving vehicle that Fox is driving... we'll choose Rocksteady and Raph because it will be way brutal, brah. Rocksteady and Raph don't have to worry about the shooters who are firing, because they are both bulletproof. We throw in a little shaky-cam action so you can't really tell what's going on, a flurry of CG and bam - you've got your Bayhem. I'm telling you, the audiences will love it - don't be a hater, you just don't understand that it's popcorn entertainment, mmkay?

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope. In this movie, Vernon's going to take out Sacks by throwing a ham sandwich at him. Sacks will slip on it and, because he's about 60 years old, will throw out his hip - thus putting him out of action til BayTurtles 3. Audiences love bumbling anti-heroes, comedic relief and hilarious pratfalls. Don't argue with me - I am a genius and you are all just jealous hater-nerds who can't appreciate a movie without picking it to pieces. :tcool:



Dang, I should'a gone into the movie biz years ago - I could've been a squillionaire like Bay by now! :twink:
:tlol::lol:

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope.
LOL Evil scientist equals natural weakness for microscopes? lol

[ian_punk_03]

yes tmnt 2 is on its way and wow some of you guys should not get so crazy about a movie lol but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.

[TrickOrTreater]

yes tmnt 2 is on its way and wow some of you guys should not get so crazy about a movie lol but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.

Thank you, Platinum Dunes Drone poster #214.

[pennydreadful]

http://i.imgur.com/Nd5Vbyo.gif?1

But Trick, I haven't even told you the best part! When Rocksteady and Raph are fighting on top of the car, one of them is going to swing at the other and miss, and their fist is gonna go right through the roof of the car, like, 2 inches from Fox's head - while she's still driving. And everyone's gonna be like "woah" because these dudes are tearing through metal like so much tissue paper!!!

:tlol:

[IndigoErth]

but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.
Can I borrow your time machine? Please? :)

[Bry]

I'm telling you now, Vern will become Casey Jones to win April's affections, and one of the Shreks will get Jealous.
Hey, I've been saying that for a while, "called it" credit will have to be shared. lol :P But yeah, I really could see these film makers turning Casey into Vern's secret identity. Esp as a way of trying to make their version different. (Although I admit I'd be curious to see what the outrage looked like.)

...I really hate how plausible this is.

Challenge accepted. Let's literally have a fight scene on top of a car chase. Fox O'Neil is driving the car (followed by several Hummers full of nefarious military-esque villains who are shooting at them), while two of the other characters are brawling on top of the moving vehicle that Fox is driving... we'll choose Rocksteady and Raph because it will be way brutal, brah. Rocksteady and Raph don't have to worry about the shooters who are firing, because they are both bulletproof. We throw in a little shaky-cam action so you can't really tell what's going on, a flurry of CG and bam - you've got your Bayhem. I'm telling you, the audiences will love it - don't be a hater, you just don't understand that it's popcorn entertainment, mmkay?

Now in the last movie, Vernon took out Sacks by hitting him with a microscope. In this movie, Vernon's going to take out Sacks by throwing a ham sandwich at him. Sacks will slip on it and, because he's about 60 years old, will throw out his hip - thus putting him out of action til BayTurtles 3. Audiences love bumbling anti-heroes, comedic relief and hilarious pratfalls. Don't argue with me - I am a genius and you are all just jealous hater-nerds who can't appreciate a movie without picking it to pieces. :tcool:
But Trick, I haven't even told you the best part! When Rocksteady and Raph are fighting on top of the car, one of them is going to swing at the other and miss, and their fist is gonna go right through the roof of the car, like, 2 inches from Fox's head - while she's still driving. And everyone's gonna be like "woah" because these dudes are tearing through metal like so much tissue paper!!!

Me walking into the theatre like

http://img.pandawhale.com/104582-Community-Troy-fire-screaming-LUDE.gif

(Haha, just kidding, I'm not actually going to see this thing.)

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".

[Bry]

Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".

Lip service to a character that a general audience of 30-somethings are vaguely "nostalgic" for but don't actually remember all that well. Which, as we all know, is more important than building good characters or telling an actual story.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Lip service to a character that a general audience of 30-somethings are vaguely "nostalgic" for but don't actually remember all that well. Which, as we all know, is more important than building good characters or telling an actual story.

Because Blue Door backlash, as when presented with a choice of having to put up with either Megan Fox or Shia LaBeof, everyone would prefer Megan Fox. So no Casey Jones.

[Bry]

Because Blue Door backlash, as when presented with a choice of having to put up with either Megan Fox or Shia LaBeof, everyone would prefer Megan Fox. So no Casey Jones.

I love how nobody involved in the process could just say (or was brave enough to say) "hey, maybe cast someone appropriate for the role" or "hey, maybe look at the source material for some ideas here" or "hey, maybe just make a Ninja Turtles movie".

[Commenter 42]

Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".

Rhetorical question, I get it, but lol, obviously the answer is that nobody, at all had a ****ing clue what they were making. TMNT was such a ****ing foreign concept to these tits, the actually brought back Vernon.

I swear they watched 1 ****ing episode of OT, flipped through an IDW comic, and felt satisfied they knew all they needed to know.

They basically made this film the way I did my book reports in highschool.

"The Count of Monte Cristo, was good friends with the Duke of Gyro, and Lady Croque-Madame, but never spoke to his cousin, Sloppy Joe."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Rhetorical question, I get it, but lol, obviously the answer is that no one, at all had a ****ing clue what they were making. TMNT was such a ****ing foreign concept to these tits, the actually brought back Vernon.

I swear they watched 1 ****ing episode of OT, flipped through an IDW comic, and felt satisfied they knew all they needed to know.

When asked if they had considered referencing Mirage in any way for the 2014 movie, Bay likely responded, "Mirage? What's that? Are we talking about desert illusions now?"

[IndigoErth]

I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important. :tlol:

Although I have to give Arnett credit for at least being a better Vern. Even if the bar was low and there wasn't much to compare to.

[Commenter 42]

I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important. :tlol:

Although I have to give Arnett credit for at least being a better Vern. Even if the bar was low and there wasn't much to compare to.

Lol, sure. He's the best live action Vernon to date. He's also the worst.

[Autbot_Benz]

yes tmnt 2 is on its way and wow some of you guys should not get so crazy about a movie lol but tmnt 2 2016 is going to be great.

You're a fine one to talk Ian_Punk_03. How can you say a movie is gonna be great without seeing anything of it. but you are just sucking up to the new movie like crazy.

[IndigoErth]

Lol, sure. He's the best live action Vernon to date. He's also the worst.
:lol:

As a character that few to none of us cared how he turned out, I'm just glad he wasn't a whining little b*tch dead set on making sure every audience member is at least tortured to some degree. :tlol:

[Xav]

I still love that articles before it hit theaters mentioned Vernon as among the "fan favorites" of who was expected to be in the film. So great to know the film makers understood what was important. :tlol:That's still not as bad as Sacks being listed as one of the "fan favorites" expected to be in the film.

[pennydreadful]

Again, I am going to ask "Why was Vernon in this movie?".

Because Hollywood Movie Formula 101 demands that there be a side character for comic relief. A quick glance at their Cliff's Notes for the FW cartoon showed that there was a side character called Vern whose name they could use, and bam - there's your answer.

[IndigoErth]

That's still not as bad as Sacks being listed as one of the "fan favorites" expected to be in the film.
True, very true. Had forgotten he was also included. That one's just inexcusable.

[ian_punk_03]

You're a fine one to talk Ian_Punk_03. How can you say a movie is gonna be great without seeing anything of it. but you are just sucking up to the new movie like crazy.

wow its ok i mean its just a movie lol

[Leo656]

What I find delightful about you, penny, is that you adore cornball garbage in most films, yet hold TMNT to a much higher standard and will brook no such chicanery or shenanigans. Surely. (I needed one more "Sh" :lol:)

An odd bird, you are.

[NYShell]

No, this is patently f*cking false.

Michael Bay said he saw a cut, it was too serious, and HE said to lighten the thing up. Not Nick.

Michael Bay and his production studio made this film suck. Not Nick.

I'm sure the production studio made a lot of changes, but I wouldn't go as far as saying Nick didn't have a hand in this film's mediocrity. I think anyone can agree Nick would make the final say in the tone being light.

Anyways, as far as the film shooting in Albany; I think it's interesting. I would love for them to showcase all of New York and not just the city. It would feel a lot more fleshed out if they showed all the boroughs like Long Island, Queens, Brooklyn, The Bronx. I would love to see the Turtles interacting in those settings. It's cool that there's production taking place upstate.

[Powder]

I think anyone can agree Nick would make the final say in the tone being light.


It was Bay's misguided decision. Factually. Aside from Nitpicks, Nick has given both their animated crew & the IDW team pretty wide creative freedom. The cartoon is full of body horror, references to adult media, & under the radar innuendo, while the comics have their fair share of bloody violence & swearing. Bay is at fault, period. He made the call to change things, at a time where I have no doubt that Nick execs already saw rough cuts of the film without taking issue.

& what's interesting about them shooting in Albany? They shot there for the last one. FYI they shot a bunch of stuff on Jones Beach, so LI is already covered.

[Metalwolf]

I guess, WTF, Will Arnett as Jones and car chase. **** it. Let's add some other random **** to the pile.

Anyone have further terrible suggestions?

Challenge accepted.

GLADIATOR, STEP INTO THE RING!

Edit: Whew! Didn't know this would be this long until I posted it! Kudo's for anyone that reads it :)

Shredder recovers from his fall and uses a tiny bit of the mutagen to heal himself of his various injuries. He goes back to Sack's lab and brings with him Baxter Stockman, telling him and Stockman that they better work on creating more mutagen 'or else' because he wants his own mutants to better fight those 'freaks.'

Well, meanwhile April is trying to get her job back. Hanging with 4 Turtles doesn't pay the bills while living in NYC, so Bernadette decides to give her another chance just this once, mainly because she is down one or two reporters and needs someone to cover the feel good 'fluff' stories for the time being.

While traveling to one of her assigned stories, April notices something suspicious. Pulling over, she's shocked to see that it's more of the Foot, and these catch sight of her and capture her. Before she is captured, she uses the Turtlephone to try and call one of the Turtles, however she hits Vernon's number by mistake, and gets him. She still begs him to get help from the Turtles, but him wanting to be a tough guy, decides to try and rescue April himself. He uses the phone's GPS to track her last signal, and arrives at the place she's at (an abandoned warehouse.) He gets captured and tied up,and taken to Sack's and Baxter's lab along with her.

Shredder comes into the lab. He gloats that if she she is going to be Turtlebait to bring the Turtles, but because her meddling brought about so much trouble, he's going to add in a punishment. Not for her, but for her boyfriend Vernon, and she's going to watch him carry it out. April screams 'No,' and Vernon tells her, 'No matter what happens, I'll always love you."

Shredder orders Sachs and Stockman to hook Vernon up to some device with tubes, where they proceed to pump mutagen into Vernon's body, with Baxter injecting a vial of Rhino DNA into Vernon's veins. Vernon mutates, while April screams.

Meanwhile, Shredder uses the captured Turtlephone to call up one of the Turtles. He mentions that he's captured April, and that they better come before his freaks kill her.

In the background, Baxter mumbles to Sacks, 'Freaks? What freaks? We only made one." Suddenly Sacks pulls out a gun and points at him, saying, "Well, you are going to be freak number two. You are an expendable asset right now, and you know too much. Get in the other chair." Baxter is frightened, and complies by sitting in the other chair.

Sacks' ties him up, and hooks more tubes into him. He injects Warthog/Wild Boar (I can't decide which) into Baxter's arm and turns on the mutagen pumps. Baxter is screaming, while Vernon is already making rhino-like noises (whatever those sound like.)

Meanwhile, the Turtles are rushing to get to April. Mikey is having one of his moments and is exclaiming 'My precious April!" while Raph tells him to shut up. They are driving through traffic and one of the van's tires gets popped by a pot hole, forcing them to get out and travel by rooftop. Mikey complains 'Awe, we gotta walk?" while Raph deadpans a 'Well, maybe it will burn some of that pizza off your butt." Donna mentions something about triangulating Aprils' coordinates and Leo talks about making sure nobody sees them and needing to trying to find the fastest route possible to get there. Donnie suggests riding atop a train, and Leo agrees. They hop down a manhole,and find their way to a station. They all jump onto the roof of a train that Donnie says is going in that general direction, and they hop on.

Back at Sacks' lab, both men have finished mutating. They straining in their restraints, and both are making animal like noises. April has tears in her eyes, and mouthing "Vernon, Vernon..."

The Turtles' train carries them close enough, but after they jump off Donnie says that traveling on foot will still take a while for them to get there. They find a parked truck in the shadows, and Donnie breaks into it and hot wires it. Two Turtles sit in the front and two hunched down in the truck bed, and they drive the rest of the way to Sack's lab. They encounter some Foot, but their bullets don't affect the Turtles.

The Turtles burst into the lab, and Vernon and Baxter become excited and break from their restraints. The Turtles and the new mutants fight, but the new mutants end up proving to be a match for them. Mikey quips that they guys like to hit hard, and that he can't land a hit on them, and during this, one of them ends up knocking him and Donnie against the wall. They land against a wall, and Mikey quips 'We're getting tenderized dude! We gotta do something!"

*Meanwhile in the background, Shredder quietly leaves*

Well, Donnies notices that where they land is some power cables, and this gives him the germ of an idea. Looking quickly, he notices some sprinklers on the ceiling, and a plan now fully forms. He yells, "Guys, get to someplace non-conducting quickly!" The other three look at him for a moment, and then quickly scramble for anything non metal to stand on. Mikey grabs April and goes for a pile of rubber mats, Raph, goes for a stack of wooden pallets, and Leo goes for a sturdy desk. Donnie jumps up, and whips out a cigarette lighter as he gets a hold of a beam, and lights it under a sprinkler head. The sprinklers activate, and Donnie yells, 'Guys, cut open those power cords!" The guys all throw their shuriken at it, and the power cords start to spark in the water. Vernon and Baxter are caught in the electrical discharge, and are electrocuted to death.

Soon the power stops, and Donnie determines that it's safe to step down now because a fuse blew and cut the electricity. They free April and she's crying, and runs over to Vernon. He's clearly dead, and the Turtles decide they better get leaving and not risk sticking around.

Donnie decides hot wires a Clan Humvee, because there isn't enough room with April now. Two Turtles ride in the Humvee and two are in the truck, and Mikey is consoling April. In the background of the lab, there is another Foot soldier watching them through a window as they are leaving. He tears off his mask, although we only see him from the back. He turns, and the screen fades to black. *It turns out to be Casey Jones*

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Challenge accepted.

GLADIATOR, STEP INTO THE RING!

Edit: Whew! Didn't know this would be this long until I posted it! Kudo's for anyone that reads it :)

Shredder recovers from his fall and uses a tiny bit of the mutagen to heal himself of his various injuries. He goes back to Sack's lab and brings with him Baxter Stockman, telling him and Stockman that they better work on creating more mutagen 'or else' because he wants his own mutants to better fight those 'freaks.'

Well, meanwhile April is trying to get her job back. Hanging with 4 Turtles doesn't pay the bills while living in NYC, so Bernadette decides to give her another chance just this once, mainly because she is down one or two reporters and needs someone to cover the feel good 'fluff' stories for the time being.

While traveling to one of her assigned stories, April notices something suspicious. Pulling over, she's shocked to see that it's more of the Foot, and these catch sight of her and capture her. Before she is captured, she uses the Turtlephone to try and call one of the Turtles, however she hits Vernon's number by mistake, and gets him. She still begs him to get help from the Turtles, but him wanting to be a tough guy, decides to try and rescue April himself. He uses the phone's GPS to track her last signal, and arrives at the place she's at (an abandoned warehouse.) He gets captured and tied up,and taken to Sack's and Baxter's lab along with her.

Shredder comes into the lab. He gloats that if she she is going to be Turtlebait to bring the Turtles, but because her meddling brought about so much trouble, he's going to add in a punishment. Not for her, but for her boyfriend Vernon, and she's going to watch him carry it out. April screams 'No,' and Vernon tells her, 'No matter what happens, I'll always love you."

Shredder orders Sachs and Stockman to hook Vernon up to some device with tubes, where they proceed to pump mutagen into Vernon's body, with Baxter injecting a vial of Rhino DNA into Vernon's veins. Vernon mutates, while April screams.

Meanwhile, Shredder uses the captured Turtlephone to call up one of the Turtles. He mentions that he's captured April, and that they better come before his freaks kill her.

In the background, Baxter mumbles to Sacks, 'Freaks? What freaks? We only made one." Suddenly Sacks pulls out a gun and points at him, saying, "Well, you are going to be freak number two. You are an expendable asset right now, and you know too much. Get in the other chair." Baxter is frightened, and complies by sitting in the other chair.

Sacks' ties him up, and hooks more tubes into him. He injects Warthog/Wild Boar (I can't decide which) into Baxter's arm and turns on the mutagen pumps. Baxter is screaming, while Vernon is already making rhino-like noises (whatever those sound like.)

Meanwhile, the Turtles are rushing to get to April. Mikey is having one of his moments and is exclaiming 'My precious April!" while Raph tells him to shut up. They are driving through traffic and one of the van's tires gets popped by a pot hole, forcing them to get out and travel by rooftop. Mikey complains 'Awe, we gotta walk?" while Raph deadpans a 'Well, maybe it will burn some of that pizza off your butt." Donna mentions something about triangulating Aprils' coordinates and Leo talks about making sure nobody sees them and needing to trying to find the fastest route possible to get there. Donnie suggests riding atop a train, and Leo agrees. They hop down a manhole,and find their way to a station. They all jump onto the roof of a train that Donnie says is going in that general direction, and they hop on.

Back at Sacks' lab, both men have finished mutating. They straining in their restraints, and both are making animal like noises. April has tears in her eyes, and mouthing "Vernon, Vernon..."

The Turtles' train carries them close enough, but after they jump off Donnie says that traveling on foot will still take a while for them to get there. They find a parked truck in the shadows, and Donnie breaks into it and hot wires it. Two Turtles sit in the front and two hunched down in the truck bed, and they drive the rest of the way to Sack's lab. They encounter some Foot, but their bullets don't affect the Turtles.

The Turtles burst into the lab, and Vernon and Baxter become excited and break from their restraints. The Turtles and the new mutants fight, but the new mutants end up proving to be a match for them. Mikey quips that they guys like to hit hard, and that he can't land a hit on them, and during this, one of them ends up knocking him and Donnie against the wall. They land against a wall, and Mikey quips 'We're getting tenderized dude! We gotta do something!"

*Meanwhile in the background, Shredder quietly leaves*

Well, Donnies notices that where they land is some power cables, and this gives him the germ of an idea. Looking quickly, he notices some sprinklers on the ceiling, and a plan now fully forms. He yells, "Guys, get to someplace non-conducting quickly!" The other three look at him for a moment, and then quickly scramble for anything non metal to stand on. Mikey grabs April and goes for a pile of rubber mats, Raph, goes for a stack of wooden pallets, and Leo goes for a sturdy desk. Donnie jumps up, and whips out a cigarette lighter as he gets a hold of a beam, and lights it under a sprinkler head. The sprinklers activate, and Donnie yells, 'Guys, cut open those power cords!" The guys all throw their shuriken at it, and the power cords start to spark in the water. Vernon and Baxter are caught in the electrical discharge, and are electrocuted to death.

Soon the power stops, and Donnie determines that it's safe to step down now because a fuse blew and cut the electricity. They free April and she's crying, and runs over to Vernon. He's clearly dead, and the Turtles decide they better get leaving and not risk sticking around.

Donnie decides hot wires a Clan Humvee, because there isn't enough room with April now. Two Turtles ride in the Humvee and two are in the truck, and Mikey is consoling April. In the background of the lab, there is another Foot soldier watching them through a window as they are leaving. He tears off his mask, although we only see him from the back. He turns, and the screen fades to black. *It turns out to be Casey Jones*

I hate you so much, Michael Bay! Bad enough that you ruined the movie, but now you come on to our home turf forum to mock us!!???

:tlol:

[pennydreadful]

What I find delightful about you, penny, is that you adore cornball garbage in most films, yet hold TMNT to a much higher standard and will brook no such chicanery or shenanigans. Surely. (I needed one more "Sh" :lol:)

An odd bird, you are.

I think you're forgetting that I enjoy Next Mutation. :trazz:

I adore cornball garbage - but it has to entertain me. That's the caveat. BayTurtles bored the fleas off me -- and that's where I have the problem.

Also I never make the mistake of actually thinking my cornball garbage is actually good. :tlol: They can have my copies of Razorblade Smile, Battlefield Earth and Frankenhooker when they pry them from my cold, dead hands, but I know they're total schlock.

[Metalwolf]

I hate you so much, Michael Bay! Bad enough that you ruined the movie, but now you come on to our home turf forum to mock us!!???

:tlol:I was good, wasn't I ;)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was good, wasn't I ;)

Sickeningly so. :tlol: You probably get paid to endorse Orange Crush soda, too. :twink:

[bushido]

Ninja Turtles may film scenes in Buffalo :
http://wivb.com/2015/03/20/ninja-turtles-may-film-scenes-in-buffalo/

[Shark_Blade]

^Awesome. :D


Btw, everytime I read this thread's title, I read as "TMNT 2 to shoot in Alabama" and the song Sweet Home Alabama plays in my mind. :tlol:

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I home Irma (like in the 1987 cartoon or Archie Comics, no 2012 Irma-robot) shows up.

[TigerClaw]

Ninja Turtles may film scenes in Buffalo :
http://wivb.com/2015/03/20/ninja-turtles-may-film-scenes-in-buffalo/
Great fine, I hope this time, They actually use the footage, Last time they filmed in New York, They didnt use some of the scenes in the movie, Remember when they shot the actor playing Raph in the middle of New York? And a scene of him wearing the trenchcoat? Those scenes didn't make it the actual movie.

I hope whatever they shoot, Ends up in the movie this time.

[Mellie]

Ninja Turtles may film scenes in Buffalo :
http://wivb.com/2015/03/20/ninja-turtles-may-film-scenes-in-buffalo/

Holy crap, I hope this happens. If they need extras I'm gonna fight my way in :lol:


The local news said they should start in May, not sure where they're shooting yet.

[Andrew NDB]

Ooo I wonder what kind of action sequences. The snow chase was amazing. :tlove::D

Amazingly ghastly.

[Autbot_Benz]

I home Irma (like in the 1987 cartoon or Archie Comics, no 2012 Irma-robot) shows up.

I hope not Irma sucks she is the most annoying character ever created from turtles

[IndigoErth]

Great fine, I hope this time, They actually use the footage, Last time they filmed in New York, They didnt use some of the scenes in the movie, Remember when they shot the actor playing Raph in the middle of New York? And a scene of him wearing the trenchcoat? Those scenes didn't make it the actual movie.

I hope whatever they shoot, Ends up in the movie this time.
Granted all movies get some pieces cut. Kind of wonder if that got cut because if they're trying to be "realistic" and he's trying to be disguised, the images we did see looks like he'd stick out like a sore thumb. The animation folks did well with the cgi of the stuff the Turtles were wearing, I've wondered if the trench coat would have worked out better if they'd just gone cgi with that instead.

I wouldn't mind seeing them try it again in the/a sequel, but cgi it; and might work better on Mikey's smaller form.

[Bloodsucker]

I hope not Irma sucks she is the most annoying character ever created from turtles

I know what you mean. If they made the movie all about Irma it would be wonderful.
I just heard about the news from the IDW 44 issue. what is the chances that will be in the movie? I wanted to not spooile it if they did not read yet.

[Powder]

I hope not Irma sucks she is the most annoying character ever created from turtles

Hardly, the OT had farrrr more annoying characters than that. Surely you're forgetting/unaware of Mr. Ogg, for example...

[TigerClaw]

I know what you mean. If they made the movie all about Irma it would be wonderful.
I just heard about the news from the IDW 44 issue. what is the chances that will be in the movie? I wanted to not spooile it if they did not read yet.
Not gonna happen, Considering the TMNT movies are considered family films.

[TigerClaw]

Granted all movies get some pieces cut. Kind of wonder if that got cut because if they're trying to be "realistic" and he's trying to be disguised, the images we did see looks like he'd stick out like a sore thumb. The animation folks did well with the cgi of the stuff the Turtles were wearing, I've wondered if the trench coat would have worked out better if they'd just gone cgi with that instead.

I wouldn't mind seeing them try it again in the/a sequel, but cgi it; and might work better on Mikey's smaller form.
Not showing Raph in a trench coat was a complete miss opportunity, It could've been a nod to the 1990 film.

They even had an action figure of it.

I do hope they try this again in the 2nd, and somehow make it work.

[Bloodsucker]

Not gonna happen, Considering the TMNT movies are considered family films.

Family films have death all the time. So it can happen.

[Autbot_Benz]

Hardly, the OT had farrrr more annoying characters than that. Surely you're forgetting/unaware of Mr. Ogg, for example...

never heard of Mr Ogg. But to be fair I don't remember much from the OT seasons.

[Galactus]

I just heard about the news from the IDW 44 issue. what is the chances that will be in the movie? I wanted to not spooile it if they did not read yet.

A rather sad reality of the continuity they set forth in last years movie is that what happened in the latest IDW issue can't happen.

Nor could anything like the story line in Leonardo #1 and it's subsequent arc or any of it's adaptions of that story like in 1990 movie, the 4kids show and the current animates series happen in the new movie. Which is a shame because not only has some mileage come from the the characters dealing with an injury, at very least it heightens the tension of a battle scene knowing these characters can be hurt. Even the light-on violence Fred Wolf show showed them injured sometimes. You can't portray that in the sequel not without downplaying their immense strength and ignoring their healing ability which I hope they do but am not holding out for it.

Even if they did what's the likelihood of this happening? The turtles are not the center of the movie and even if they were and the writers were inclined to include something like I don't think it would be done well. After recently giving it another chance recently I think what many people thought was the "saving grace" is how well the turtles and their family aspect was done isn't anywhere near good enough to deal with the kind of dynamics such a story would bring out.

Not gonna happen, Considering the TMNT movies are considered family films.

And the IDW series is a family friendly comic. We've had assertions from people involved stating that Nickelodeon vets everything with the possibility of young readers in mind.

Several family movies have portrayed similar or more overt things onscreen that what IDW did in it's latest issue.

Then again "family movie" is a broad term but it's seems people are using it in the context of the 2014 to mean "aimed mostly at the under tens" which is strange as it's sexual humor and over the top (if toothless) depiction of action doesn't exactly scream good time for the little ones and certainly throughout the production what little the creators where telling us it certainly didn't seem like they were aiming squarely for kids and I remember at one interview they claimed the opposite.

It's mainly retroactively that it's been billed as a "family movie" in that sense. Interestingly I've yet to see anything but anecdotal evidence it was even that popular with kids.:ohwell:

Not showing Raph in a trench coat was a complete miss opportunity, It could've been a nod to the 1990 film.

They even had an action figure of it.

I do hope they try this again in the 2nd, and somehow make it work.

There are many things I dislike about the movie but honestly I consider this a bullet dodged.

There has always been a suspension of disbelief with the turtles donning disguises but the way the set photos made that scene look was too ridiculous even in a movie like we got.

Same with the turtle van. I can't imagine that thing involved in an actual battle.

[IndigoErth]

If the movie wants to kill anyone off than, I dunno, be different and kill off April. :roll: That way the Turtles might even get to be the actual stars of it.

But anyone hurts Leo then I hurt them... even if it is only mentally (calm down FBI). I dunno about the comics, but at least other two versions of him ended up unconscious last year. How about a bit more good dialogue in the second movie, good action, a bit of development, and let him dodge much of the potential hurt. >.>

There has always been a suspension of disbelief with the turtles donning disguises but the way the set photos made that scene look was too ridiculous even in a movie like we got.
Agree, it just ended up looking too bulky in their effort to make it fit cgi Raph's size. Works well in 1990, but here their size just overdoes it.

I doubt Leo could get away with it either. Might just make Mikey look like a lil' chunky butt and get away with it a little more since he's not so huge; Donnie might get away with it if he'd take all that stuff off him.

[Bloodsucker]

But anyone hurts Leo then I hurt them... even if it is only mentally (calm down FBI). I dunno about the comics, but at least other two versions of him ended up unconscious last year.


with so many Leonardo around who do you find the most sexy? You crushing him!kkkkkkk. I think he is the most handsome in 90's movie.

[pennydreadful]

Hardly, the OT had farrrr more annoying characters than that. Surely you're forgetting/unaware of Mr. Ogg, for example...

Or the Badd Family and Howie Hardy. :tlol:

[Orochi]

And the IDW series is a family friendly comic. We've had assertions from people involved stating that Nickelodeon vets everything with the possibility of young readers in mind.

I wouldn't call IDW family friendly in the slightest sense. Granted Nick won't allow certain things, but they allowed what happened in issue #44 and showed it rather graphically.

[NYShell]

& what's interesting about them shooting in Albany? They shot there for the last one. FYI they shot a bunch of stuff on Jones Beach, so LI is already covered.

Idk if they actually referenced it as long island though. When Raph sees Donny's tracker i think it shows it as upstate.

[Powder]

Of course they didn't, I'm just saying they shot there. Doesn't get a mention in the film or anything.

[IndigoErth]

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/421787-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-to-begin-filming-next-month
“There is no better way to project the character of this city than through television and film,” Council Member Dan Garodnick said. “And what’s more New York than pizza-loving ninjas and a talking rat?”
Just wanted to say I love that second part.

I envy you a little NYC, getting to pretend they are local citizens, at least in spirit. :)

[TigerClaw]

The sequel will be filming in New York, and they estimated that, it will be about 70 million dollars in spending.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-film-nyc-buffalo-article-1.2157366
The action flick sequel, “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2,” will begin filming next month in New York City and Buffalo, which officials estimate will result in $70 million in spending.

The bulk of that money — $63 million — will be spent in the Big Apple, according to Paramount.

"New York City knows how to host blockbuster films," said Mayor de Blasio.

“We welcome ‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2’ to New York City, and look forward to the many jobs and tens of millions of jobs this will bring to our local economy.”

The details of where the shoots will take place and what stars are featured are being kept under wraps.

“We can only imagine what the filmmakers have in store,” said Cynthia Lopez, commissioner of the mayor's office of media and entertainment.

70 million is a lot of money to spend on this film, But then again, It could be higher when you have to take into account all the CGI they have to add later.

[MastahShredder]

Hey fellas. Anyone mind breaking down whats up with this film as far as cast and characters? Shredder was really disappointing in the first. Hope, if he is in it, they fix that.

[Bitsy83]

Hey fellas. Anyone mind breaking down whats up with this film as far as cast and characters? Shredder was really disappointing in the first. Hope, if he is in it, they fix that.

Ok, I'm going to get a LOT of criticism for this, but...I'd rather the sequel focus more on Kraang.

Let me explain: The first movie did a...somewhat decent (though incredibly messy) introduction of the Shredder. And now that we know he possibly survived the fall, we could have him sit out the second film and focus more on the origins of the ooze.

I've only seen the movie once while it was in theaters, so I'm probably skipping a few parts, but remember how Sachs said that the mutagen was created by an ancient alchemist from hundreds of years ago in feudal Japan? What if that "alchemist" was an Utrom who was looking for test subjects for the mutagen? Yeah, that'd be borrowing from the Nick show, but this IS produced by Nickelodeon, so there you go!

Anyway, Kraang and the Utroms have been living on earth and have been working in secret with the help of Baxter Stockman. Stockman is promised protection and insurance of not being enslaved or mutated in the global domination the Utrom have planned if he agrees to use the mutagen for them to help build an army. He and Sachs are the ones who go to O'Neil and together they form the Renaissance Project.

Stockman is upset with Sachs since Sachs is sharing the knowledge of the mutagen with Shredder and wants to do that idiotic "Quarentine half of New York and become stupid rich instead of just rich", but is unable to stop O'Neil from burning down the lab. Stockman has been secretly hiding out with Kraang and his Utroms, then discovers Sach's plan.

I assume Sachs was likely arrested for...being a douche and later released because he has enough money to buy his own law firm if he wanted. Anyway, Stockman is there at Sach's mansion and tells him how he botched up his great plan and hands him over to Kraang, who take Sachs into their custody and mutate him into some giant creature that Turtles will likely fight and kill at the end of the second movie.

This would also be a good way of bringing in Bebop and Rocksteady. They could've been "volunteers" who were mutated by the Utroms and agreed to serve them until the invasion.

Of course the Turtles come in, stop them, stop Stockman, and the Utroms are defeated. Or assumably defeated. Then during the credits we see Kraang overlooking the city and swearing vengeance and that's when Shredder shows up and offers a pact.

Stupid idea? Obviously, I just came up with this a few days ago. I just thought by having Kraang AND Shredder in the same movie without giving us enough time to learn about Kraang and the Utroms would be even worse than reshooting the scenes with Sachs as Shredder and coming up with that moronic scheme. Plus, having Sachs mutated early on, thus giving him a sort of "Cyclops in "The Last Stand" treatment would be a nice way of tying up his story arc. I REALLY hated this character.

Sorry for making that so long...

[Powder]

Hey fellas. Anyone mind breaking down whats up with this film as far as cast and characters? Shredder was really disappointing in the first. Hope, if he is in it, they fix that.

Bebop, Rocksteady, & Sachs are confirmed, villain-wise. Beyond that, it's all up in the air. I'd say it's fair to assume Shredder will be back, but Tohoru Masamune has not yet been said to return, so who knows. Maybe they'll put Sachs in that suit as they had originally intended (blech!). Sorry there's not much to report on at this time.

[Leo656]

Other than, they start shooting really soon and are "still trying to work in" characters like Casey. SO, no script, either! "Point, shoot, and Scotch tape it all together in post-production!"

Seriously, I'm sorry, there's zero chance this thing can be any good. It's like they're writing the book on "How To Succeed In Movies Without Even Trying... And, In Fact, Doing Every Single Thing Wrong."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Ok, I'm going to get a LOT of criticism for this, but...I'd rather the sequel focus more on Kraang.

Let me explain: The first movie did a...somewhat decent (though incredibly messy) introduction of the Shredder. And now that we know he possibly survived the fall, we could have him sit out the second film and focus more on the origins of the ooze.

I've only seen the movie once while it was in theaters, so I'm probably skipping a few parts, but remember how Sachs said that the mutagen was created by an ancient alchemist from hundreds of years ago in feudal Japan? What if that "alchemist" was an Utrom who was looking for test subjects for the mutagen? Yeah, that'd be borrowing from the Nick show, but this IS produced by Nickelodeon, so there you go!

Anyway, Kraang and the Utroms have been living on earth and have been working in secret with the help of Baxter Stockman. Stockman is promised protection and insurance of not being enslaved or mutated in the global domination the Utrom have planned if he agrees to use the mutagen for them to help build an army. He and Sachs are the ones who go to O'Neil and together they form the Renaissance Project.

Stockman is upset with Sachs since Sachs is sharing the knowledge of the mutagen with Shredder and wants to do that idiotic "Quarentine half of New York and become stupid rich instead of just rich", but is unable to stop O'Neil from burning down the lab. Stockman has been secretly hiding out with Kraang and his Utroms, then discovers Sach's plan.

I assume Sachs was likely arrested for...being a douche and later released because he has enough money to buy his own law firm if he wanted. Anyway, Stockman is there at Sach's mansion and tells him how he botched up his great plan and hands him over to Kraang, who take Sachs into their custody and mutate him into some giant creature that Turtles will likely fight and kill at the end of the second movie.

This would also be a good way of bringing in Bebop and Rocksteady. They could've been "volunteers" who were mutated by the Utroms and agreed to serve them until the invasion.

Of course the Turtles come in, stop them, stop Stockman, and the Utroms are defeated. Or assumably defeated. Then during the credits we see Kraang overlooking the city and swearing vengeance and that's when Shredder shows up and offers a pact.

Stupid idea? Obviously, I just came up with this a few days ago. I just thought by having Kraang AND Shredder in the same movie without giving us enough time to learn about Kraang and the Utroms would be even worse than reshooting the scenes with Sachs as Shredder and coming up with that moronic scheme. Plus, having Sachs mutated early on, thus giving him a sort of "Cyclops in "The Last Stand" treatment would be a nice way of tying up his story arc. I REALLY hated this character.

Sorry for making that so long...

Remember back when some of us were hoping Sachs would turn out to be an Utrom exosuit upgrade for the original Oroku Saki (ala 4Kids cartoon)? Then it turned out, nope, this is just a really messy way to reassure audiences that we know Shredder is technically supposed to be Japanese and OF COURSE we weren't trying to whitewash the character.

Bitter disappointment, utter disbelief, shattered dreams... Good times.

And yet, a very small and very foolish part of me is clinging to the hope that maybe Eric Sachs will turn out to be an Utrom in the sequel.

Foolish, foolish me. I should know better. And, in fact, I do. But hope doth spring eternal...

[Bitsy83]

Remember back when some of us were hoping Sachs would turn out to be an Utrom exosuit upgrade for the original Oroku Saki (ala 4Kids cartoon)? Then it turned out, nope, this is just a really messy way to reassure audiences that we know Shredder is technically supposed to be Japanese and OF COURSE we weren't trying to whitewash the character.

Bitter disappointment, utter disbelief, shattered dreams... Good times.

And yet, a very small and very foolish part of me is clinging to the hope that maybe Eric Sachs will turn out to be an Utrom in the sequel.

Foolish, foolish me. I should know better. And, in fact, I do. But hope doth spring eternal...

Eeeeyup. All part of being a creative fan. Though, to be fair, sometimes a bad movie based off something you love does give you some good ideas. Like you take the things you liked from the bad movie (and for me, that was pretty much anything NOT involving any human characters), then fixing it around to see what you would've changed in the second movie. While your theories don't even come close to what actually happens, you do give yourself a little pat on the back for creative ideas.

Just saying.

[IndigoErth]

An overflowing closet packed full and bursting at the hinges with explosions, plot devices, lame ideas, half-assed story, celebrity names, lame acting... The title "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2" is scrawled in permanent marker across an unnecessary gold plate on the door. An arrogant and wayward film maker desperately tries to keep everything contained while the door forces itself open a few inches beyond his control; his hand is shoved through that space while he shouts, "Get in there, Turtles!"

[IndigoErth]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/

Surprise! The sequel to 2014's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has already begun filming! The scenes involve Will Arnett, a supermodel and an NBA basketball game.

Last night at the New York Knicks and Los Angeles Clippers game, Alessandra Ambrosio filmed a scene with Will Arnett, who plays Vern Fenwick in TMNT. Alessandra was spotted kissing Vern on the cheek. Guess the Channel 6 Eyewitness News cameraman is over his crush for April O'Neil (Megan Fox), or he's just trying to move on. Not a bad way to move on. You can see pictures from the shoot by clicking here.

And later today, more scenes will be shot, but these will include some of the basketball players from the game. Los Angeles Clippers players DeAndre Jordan, Matt Barnes, J.J. Redick, Austin Rivers and Spencer Hawes are filming a scene today for TMNT 2. "Jordan is the only one currently slated to have a speaking role in the scene," thescore.com reports, "though Rivers plans to improvise something."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/

WTF.

We're confirmed to have Leo, Don, Raph, Mike, Splinter, Rocksteady, and Bebop in the movie, which means expensive CGI out the wazoo... and they're wasting part of their budget on this!?

[Vicky82]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/

Here's the article, including the picture with Will Arnett.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3012372/Alessandra-Ambrosio-shares-flirty-photos-dressed-black-lounges-blanket-designed-friend.html

[Galactus]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/


Does this seem very un-TMNT? The kind of crap that no one watching will care about?

Well wasn't that what we got with the main bulk of the 2014 movie. Did they not listen to critics? To fans? I know it's a small thing but this being the first piece of news of what is actually going in the movie sets up that this will be no different. Vernon has no business as a focus character and he certainly wasn't a popular aspect of the last movie even with the people who liked it.

This isn't really bad for the multitude of people who who disliked the movie it but the many fans who defended it as a decent enough start, that things will be different and they'll listen to fans and fix all the mistakes for the sequel and ditch the characters no one cares about and focus on TMNT and their story. Instead we're opening with news of the kind of crap which could have been in the last movie.

[IndigoErth]

More pics at this link as well. (Nothing too exciting though.)

http://www.laineygossip.com/Will-Arnett-and-Alessandra-Ambrosio-at-the-Knicks-game-possibly-shooting-scenes-for-new-Ninja-Turtles/38013

Dear film makers... please insert the Turtles quietly unnoticed there watching the game. Thank you. (But you'd never think of that, they're prob just props that fight the bad guys.)

[Candy Kappa]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/

Vernon getting a date? That's very out-of-character... Even for Platinum Dunes :lol:

[Bry]

They what now.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel-will-include-cameos-by-five-/

Shoehorning in an NBA promo (on top of gobs of other product placement) instead of telling an actual story or focusing on the concept/characters it's supposed to be about?

SURPRISE! It's a Michael Bay movie.

[Candy Kappa]

Space Jam, Ninja Turtles style. Make it happen!

[IndigoErth]

Space Jam, Ninja Turtles style. Make it happen!
:D

Dammit, if they want to go for ridiculous, then just go all the way. Yes, just get basketball jerseys on the Turtles and get them on the team. I support this. At least in that case it would focus on them.


Maybe it's just a quick shot of Vern on a date (wah?), but speaking parts for athletes... eh? (No offense to said athletes.)

If New York Knicks don't get speaking roles, then I offer a hearty "boo!" for the NY-living Turtles who can't.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the article, including the picture with Will Arnett.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3012372/Alessandra-Ambrosio-shares-flirty-photos-dressed-black-lounges-blanket-designed-friend.html
Here you go.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/26/07/26FFF65900000578-3012372-image-m-72_1427353299064.jpg

[Leo656]

Wow. The sh*ts.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow. The sh*ts.

And giggles. Don't forget the giggles.

[Leo656]

Nah, I ain't laughing.

Just sh*ts. Of the torrential downpour variety.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Nah, I ain't laughing.

Just sh*ts. Of the torrential downpour variety.

Laugh or cry. Or just hysterical giggling brought on by letting go of one's tenuous grip on sanity.

[IndigoErth]

Nah, I ain't laughing.

Just sh*ts. Of the torrential downpour variety.
Good thing that NBA shoot might have Gatorade product placement to replace those electrolytes and rehydrate.

[TigerClaw]

The part that gets me about this, Why are they using Clippers players instead of Knicks players, You think a movie set in NYC, They would have Knicks players make some cameo, but nope, They use players from the visiting team.

I think what happened is, Those 5 Clippers players, Must be TMNT fans, And wanted a cameo in the movie, Since one has a speaking role.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I think what happened is, Those 5 Clippers players, Must be TMNT fans

or you know....Money


im shocked at some of the surprise of you guys...of course we are gonna get more human focus..just use the transformer movies as reference and see


look how many more human casted characters get added vs robot ones

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. That or Hollywood sorts picked to focus on their local team.

Personally I'd be using the team the Turtles themselves would more likely be fans of.

If they at least add in some down time of the Turtles watching the game, even just at home (carrying on like any other sports fans), I can forgive this. :trazz: (That would be kind of adorable... Too good to be true I'm sure.)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. That or Hollywood sorts picked to focus on their local team.

Personally I'd be using the team the Turtles themselves would more likely be fans of.

If they at least add in some down time of the Turtles watching the game, even just at home (carrying on like any other sports fans), I can forgive this. :trazz: (That would be kind of adorable... Too good to be true I'm sure.)

That would be awesome and fun. So it's totally not happening.

Now, maybe April's covering the game? Or maybe Vern really IS a fan favorite. <facepalm> :tgrumble:

[TigerClaw]

I would imagine in this scene, Vernon at the game with this chick, He gets a call by April, Asking him for a ride to some place.

Just when Vernon is about to get lucky with some chick, His cellphone rings, and it's April begging him to drive him some place for a story.

[Powder]

Oh, so it can get worse after all. Not the news I was hoping for.

[Xiewin]

Wow this is terrible news.

The sequel is going to be absolutely awful...

[TigerClaw]

I'm not really bothered by this, They just started filming, So its no big deal, I'm sure we will see more stuff get posted, when they spot the actors in the motion capture suits.

I'm sure in the next couple of weeks, We will hear some casting news on whose playing who, and so on.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm not really bothered by this

Why am I not surprised?

[NinjaPug]

I think what happened is, Those 5 Clippers players, Must be TMNT fans, And wanted a cameo in the movie, Since one has a speaking role.

Yeah, that must be what happened.

What a hilarious yet totally unsurprising story. This movie is going to be worse than the first one.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Well.......any hopes for improvements are thrown out the window. Wake me when they announce the next reboot.

[Xiewin]

I'm not really bothered by this, They just started filming, So its no big deal, I'm sure we will see more stuff get posted, when they spot the actors in the motion capture suits.

I'm sure in the next couple of weeks, We will hear some casting news on whose playing who, and so on.

I remember saying stuff like this before the first one was released...and look how terrible that one turned out.

[pennydreadful]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111222813/4446081-012+unimpressed+avi.png

[Xav]

Bebop, Rocksteady, & Sachs are confirmed, villain-wise. Beyond that, it's all up in the air. I'd say it's fair to assume Shredder will be back, but Tohoru Masamune has not yet been said to return, so who knows. Maybe they'll put Sachs in that suit as they had originally intended (blech!).According to IGN Tohoru Masamune is returning as Shredder.
With Michael Bay back on board as producer, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 will feature the return of Megan Fox as April O'Neil, Will Arnett as Vernon Fenwick and Tohoru Masamune as Shredder.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/23/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-to-start-filming-in-ny-in-april

[Vicky82]

I don't understand why people are moaning about this.

The Clipper's cameo will probably last 30 seconds and maybe won't even make the final cut.

That scene with the model and Will Arnett will probably last a minute and also may not make the final cut.

[TigerClaw]

According to IGN Tohoru Masamune is returning as Shredder.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/23/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-to-start-filming-in-ny-in-april
I just hope we can see his face this time, Every time he was on, His face was darkened, Like they were trying to hide his scarred face, But I remembered when we saw that first pic of him, Someone increased the exposure and sure enough, His face was scarred.

[The Stryker]

Sounds like a 2 minute scene to introduce Vern and what he's been upto at the top of the movie.

[TigerClaw]

Sounds like a 2 minute scene to introduce Vern and what he's been upto at the top of the movie.
That's what I was thinking, Its nothing more then just a scene of Vernon doing whatever, I don't think it adds to the movie.

I would guess he gets a cellphone call from April regarding something, And he happens to be at an NBA game at the time.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, I wondered if maybe a phone call as well, but with speaking roles for athletes, I dunno. Maybe they're just saying random junk more clearly for the shot. Surely no one is interviewing the opposing team for Channel 6.

Either way it might get cut.


What I want... Turtles are watching the game, see Vern on tv in the audience, Turtles call Vern. :tlol:

[The Stryker]

Yeah, I wondered if maybe a phone call as well, but with speaking roles for athletes, I dunno. Maybe they're just saying random junk more clearly for the shot. Surely no one is interviewing the opposing team for Channel 6.

Either way it might get cut.


What I want... Turtles are watching the game, see Vern on tv in the audience, Turtles call Vern. :tlol:

I'd bet the speaking role for DeAndre is nothing more than saying 'Hey man! Get out the way!' Or something like that.

[TigerClaw]

Yeah, I wondered if maybe a phone call as well, but with speaking roles for athletes, I dunno. Maybe they're just saying random junk more clearly for the shot. Surely no one is interviewing the opposing team for Channel 6.

Either way it might get cut.


What I want... Turtles are watching the game, see Vern on tv in the audience, Turtles call Vern. :tlol:
And also Megan Fox wasn't there, So its just Will Arnett himself, So its just a scene involving him.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't understand why people are moaning about this.

The Clipper's cameo will probably last 30 seconds and maybe won't even make the final cut.

That scene with the model and Will Arnett will probably last a minute and also may not make the final cut.

I'm moaning because of the cost involved. A big reason the Turtles didn't get as much screentime as they deserved was because of the $$$ associated with the CGI and VFX.

Do you really think hiring a handful of freaking NBA players for a 2-minute scene is a wise use of limited finances?

[Xav]

How much you want to bet Alessandra Ambrosio is playing Irma?

[TigerClaw]

If I remember correctly, They are spending 70 million to shoot in New York, I wonder if that's the film's entire budget, Or that's the cost they put in, to shoot at many locations in NYC.

About 63 million is being used to shoot in NYC, I dont know where the rest is going to.

[IndigoErth]

Well, some of it has to go to pay for the CGI stuff and all the time and effort that requires. Likewise editing department, etc.

[TigerClaw]

Well, some of it has to go to pay for the CGI stuff and all the time and effort that requires. Likewise editing department, etc.
Not to mention the sets, props, costumes, ect.

[Bry]

How much did they spend to shoot in NYC last time? Because you didn't get any real feel for the city at all in that one - if they didn't state it was in New York, I'd have believed it was in any generic metropolis.

That's fine, though. Because the sweeping aerial establishing shots and scenes at NBA games more than make up for the Turtles being supporting players in another of their movies, right!?

[IndigoErth]

Only thing that specifically signified it was NYC to me: the New Years 2014 numbers - that accompanied the ball that drops in Times Square - got destroyed by the tower as it fell.
Guess it was good that the ball was spared... Nope, no Time Square ball for 2015, a bunch of Turtles tore it down. Wut? lol (But not really their fault...)

[Leo656]

The reason it annoys me is, it's wasted resources. They're already trying to cram the movie with more stuff while not spending significantly more money on it, and beyond that... did anyone honestly ever say this kinda thing is what they'd hoped to see in a TMNT movie? Two minutes or two seconds, I completely don't give a sh*t about this kind of thing in a movie about Ninja Turtles. It's just even MORE focus on absolutely anything BUT the supposed "stars" of the movie. People complained last time, and even people who liked that POS were like, "Just wait! Next time it'll be chock full of Turtley Goodness!" No. You're wrong. If anything, we'll see even LESS of the Turtles than last time. Bank on it.

Nobody actively wants to see this sh*t. Whether it "bothers" anyone or not, whether they'll tolerate it or not, that's not the point. It's a waste of time, and it shows you exactly what kind of things are of value to the people behind this project. It's also a waste of money, because I doubt they're getting to do this scene for free, or for cheap.

Misplaced priorities.

[TonySiegel]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Revenge of the Fallen

[Bry]

The reason it annoys me is, it's wasted resources. They're already trying to cram the movie with more stuff while not spending significantly more money on it, and beyond that... did anyone honestly ever say this kinda thing is what they'd hoped to see in a TMNT movie? Two minutes or two seconds, I completely don't give a sh*t about this kind of thing in a movie about Ninja Turtles. It's just even MORE focus on absolutely anything BUT the supposed "stars" of the movie. People complained last time, and even people who liked that POS were like, "Just wait! Next time it'll be chock full of Turtley Goodness!" No. You're wrong. If anything, we'll see even LESS of the Turtles than last time. Bank on it.

Bingo bango. Odds are the first movie gave us as much "story" as we're ever gonna get out of this series. From here on out it's just more loud, jerky action scenes and explosions and product placement. And more and more scenes of "fan-favourites" like Eric Sacks and Vern to pad it out and keep the CGI budget shaved down as much as possible.

I make my plea once more to whoever's reading: please stop paying for this.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Revenge of the Fallen

:tgrin: YOU WON THE THREAD :tgrin:

[NinjaPug]

People really don't understand why this might annoy people?

Why would there ever need to be NBA players or an NBA game in a TMNT movie?

Great idea to spend less screentime on the Turtles to give us Vernon at an NBA game with some rando model. It's an even better idea to spend some of the production budget on NBA players/renting MSG/etc instead of using it to fix some of the terrible CGI (I'm looking at you Splinter).

F*ck Platinum Dunes.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I don't think it adds to the movie.

and that is the reason it should annoy you....because its a waste of a scene...whether it be 2 minutes or 2 seconds

it wont push the story fourth one way or another and its only there to give the main human actor more facetime


you know the guy tho is the real star of this film

[pennydreadful]

Bay's career at this stage is basically a stiff middle finger to the public.

Unfortunately, we're in this situation because people keep paying to see his movies. This is the bed we have made for ourselves.

I can't even be enraged, like - this is Bay. This is what he does - he makes movies for 15 year old boys. It was always going to turn out this way, and people are still going to kiss his butt and call it icecream no matter how many critics and fans complain. Bay will always make mega-bucks off his movies. I can't even pretend to understand why people like his work, but his private jet seems to attest to some people clearly liking what he does. He who has the gold makes the rules, and for the people who were dissatisfied with the first BayTurtles movie, there's zero point hoping that this movie is going to be an improvement on it. It simply won't happen. Bay has no reason to do anything differently - he knows he can push out the same thing over and over again and people will pay to see it because hey, they did the last time and it's only popcorn entertainment right?

So... it is what it is.

At this stage, I'm mostly just left with a morbid sense of curiosity. We know it's gonna be bad... but how bad are we talking here? At this stage, it's all just a matter of degrees.

I'll just be in the corner with my popcorn, watching the car wreck unfold. :lol:

[TrickOrTreater]

Utterly fascinated but wholly unsurprised there's two or three folks defending this bit.

Amazing.

[samxsteal]

Sad to see this Site hasn't change any lol
Excited with what this New Movie will bring, bring it on.
This year is going to be a good one
(halo, movie, games, tmnt filming)
Its gonna be good

[TrickOrTreater]

Sad to see this Site hasn't change any lol

Hey remember all the stuff you said would or wouldn't happen that turned out to be the exact opposite in every way?

Good times.

[Leo656]

Daily News Headline: "Man Who Likes Everything, Indeed Likes Everything! - Claims Ebola Virus 'Not As Bad As Everyone Says It Is', Encourages 'Wait And See' Attitude."

[Candy Kappa]

Seems a bit excessive to have actual NBA players being in the movie just for a short scene, wouldn't they be more expensive then actors?

[Vicky82]

I do find it weird having basketball players cameo in the movie, I would of thought American football players are more popular and paid more than basketball player. I don't care for American sport it's boring, especially American football, I tried watching it for 10 mins once and got bored, it's more boring than rugby but that's just me as I'm from the UK.

I just hope the scenes are under a minute.

[The Stryker]

Seems a bit excessive to have actual NBA players being in the movie just for a short scene, wouldn't they be more expensive then actors?

Not really. They're paid alittle more than extras. DeAndre probably getting the most as he's the closest to a star player in that lineup but they aren't netting a million for this.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Daily News Headline: "Man Who Likes Everything, Indeed Likes Everything! - Claims Ebola Virus 'Not As Bad As Everyone Says It Is', Encourages 'Wait And See' Attitude."

Ebola gets a bad rap, dude... :tlol:

[samxsteal]

Hey remember all the stuff you said would or wouldn't happen that turned out to be the exact opposite in every way?

Good times.

Remember all the stuff i said would happen and did? Good times.

Daily News Headline: "Man Who Likes Everything, Indeed Likes Everything! - Claims Ebola Virus 'Not As Bad As Everyone Says It Is', Encourages 'Wait And See' Attitude."

https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/debbie-downer.png

[Bry]

Y'know how people make fun of the Vanilla Ice cameo in Secret of the Ooze because it instantly dated the movie and prioritized promoting a celebrity before actually telling a damn story?

How far we've come. :trolleye:

[The Stryker]

Y'know how people make fun of the Vanilla Ice cameo in Secret of the Ooze because it instantly dated the movie and prioritized promoting a celebrity before actually telling a damn story?

How far we've come. :trolleye:

I doubt the players are in some sort of key scene in the movie where they're pretty much the focus of the entire thing.

[samxsteal]

I doubt the players are in some sort of key scene in the movie where they're pretty much the focus of the entire thing.

OH but dont you know? That's exactly what they are doing /s

[Bry]

I doubt the players are in some sort of key scene in the movie where they're pretty much the focus of the entire thing.

I didn't say they would be, but they're still likely gonna be a pointless distraction. It's the same thinking: wasting screentime and resources on celebrity cameos, promos and obnoxious product placement instead of putting that time and energy toward making a good Ninja Turtles movie.

[TigerClaw]

Looks like Alessandra Ambrosio is cast in the sequel, Shes playing herself and the love interest to Will Arnett. She was a Victoria's Secrets model.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/supermodel-alessandra-ambrosio-joins-teenage-784873

[massakre]

sweet..

im cool with a scene at a bball game. bigger scope for the sequel imo, and cameos are cool

[TurtleTitan97]

Looks like Alessandra Ambrosio is cast in the sequel, Shes playing herself and the love interest to Will Arnett. She was a Victoria's Secrets model.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/supermodel-alessandra-ambrosio-joins-teenage-784873

Great, just what we need. More pointless celebrity cameos. And from a Victoria's Secret model, no less. :trolleye:

Not really suprised, same thing happen in Transformers.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Looks like Alessandra Ambrosio is cast in the sequel, Shes playing herself and the love interest to Will Arnett. She was a Victoria's Secrets model.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/supermodel-alessandra-ambrosio-joins-teenage-784873

Because God knows Vernon's such a major character he deserves a love interest. :flaming::flaming::flaming::flaming:

I am seriously getting more and more pissed off the more I hear about this sequel.

[IndigoErth]

I do find it weird having basketball players cameo in the movie, I would of thought American football players are more popular and paid more than basketball player.
Maybe the football players require more pay then they were actually willing to spend. lol

Although I think football is pretty much off season right now, so that may be a main factor. Likewise for baseball. Basketball is still in season and it looked like they may have shot the actors at an actual game.

I am seriously getting more and more pissed off the more I hear about this sequel.
There there... Don't burn out too quickly, it's only getting started.



Alessandra Ambrosio (who ever the hell this is?) is just playing herself, huh? lol I guess it's easier just to be upfront about not requiring acting skills from some people, particularly the women on screen. Guess they really only need something the camera wants to look at.

[Bry]

Platinum Dunes Filmmaker Priorities:

Producer wants to meet a supermodel and a basketball team > Product placement > 'Splosions > Whatever whim the director/producer has right now [Ex: "I think base jumping is cool! Let's put that in the movie!"] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dunno, maybe tell a story if there's enough time left. (There won't be.)

[Powder]

Even if horsesh*t like this is to be included, does it really have to be the first news we get? Couldn't we ever get something more normal or speculation-provoking at first, instead of an immediate stamp of failure? I mean, I guess it's good to have up front confirmation that the thing will be no less terrible than the first, but still, you could at least trick us into thinking otherwise, however foul a practice that may be...

[Autbot_Benz]

Sad to see this Site hasn't change any lol
Excited with what this New Movie will bring, bring it on.
This year is going to be a good one
(halo, movie, games, tmnt filming)
Its gonna be good

agreed just ignore TrollorTreater it seems is only existence in life is to troll the movie section. Funny for someone who hates the PD turtles movies all he does is talk about them and live in the movie section.

[Leo656]

Remember all the stuff i said would happen and did? Good times.

I definitely remember you saying that Japanese Shredder was "secretly" in the movie the whole time, and that Sachs being Shredder was all a big scam... and then the actor himself confirmed that they had basically him come in and shoot a few scenes in an afternoon. And then Sachs was Shredder in both the novel and the video game. And the more it was made clear that the whole thing was a last-minute "fix", the more you insisted that it was planned from the start. That whole thing was tragically hilarious.

It's like your mutant power is the opposite of mine. I've got that Scarlet Witch power where I can manipulate probability, and every single thing I say comes true. Meanwhile, your track record is comparatively horrible. Not taking cheap shots, brother, just doing the math.

Also, more pointless cameos! Radical! Just what I wanted. Even more not-Ninja Turtles in a Ninja Turtles flick. They're gonna have six minutes of screen time in their own movie, and half of that is likely going to be them getting teabagged by Bebop and Rocksteady. Awesome.

At this rate, in TMNT 4, all four of them will be dead, and Splinter will train April and Vernon to battle Super-Duper-Cyber Shredder and avenge their deaths. And in a stunning reveal, Whoopi Goldberg will turn out to be Krang, the mastermind of everything from the beginning. No wonder she fired April. Can't wait. All of that is going to be so totally f***in' neato.

agreed just ignore Reality it seems its only existence in life is to ruin our fun and disrupt our enjoyment of terrible, terrible things
((^^ Special "Say What You Really Mean" Translation For The Nonsense-Impaired))

[Xiewin]

At this rate, in TMNT 4, all four of them will be dead, and Splinter will train April and Vernon to battle Super-Duper-Cyber Shredder and avenge their deaths. And in a stunning reveal, Whoopi Goldberg will turn out to be Krang, the mastermind of everything from the beginning. No wonder she fired April. Can't wait. All of that is going to be so totally f***in' neato.


((^^ Special "Say What You Really Mean" Translation For The Nonsense-Impaired))

This is pure gold :lol:

[The Stryker]

Even if horsesh*t like this is to be included, does it really have to be the first news we get? Couldn't we ever get something more normal or speculation-provoking at first, instead of an immediate stamp of failure? I mean, I guess it's good to have up front confirmation that the thing will be no less terrible than the first, but still, you could at least trick us into thinking otherwise, however foul a practice that may be...

I don't think they film movies in order of 'Coolest looking scenes'.

[IndigoErth]

I've got that Scarlet Witch power where I can manipulate probability, and every single thing I say comes true.

At this rate, in TMNT 4, all four of them will be dead, and Splinter will train April and Vernon to battle Super-Duper-Cyber Shredder and avenge their deaths. And in a stunning reveal, Whoopi Goldberg will turn out to be Krang, the mastermind of everything from the beginning.
Seriously, the duct tape, does anyone have any on hand. :tlol:

[Leo656]

I really don't think Powder's grievance really has to do with order of scenes shot. I think his point was, we really know nothing about the movie, and the very first thing we find out for sure is this, and that's kind of a drag. Like, not "Guess what? Casey's definitely in", or anything like that. The first solid news we find out is this. I think that's what he was getting at. Not what scenes were shot first, but simply, that whoever at PD is responsible for releasing information and building a buzz, picked a really puzzling place to start from. "More Vernon. You guys are gonna be so excited."

That's like going on a date, and the first thing you say is, "I'm glad we could get together; it's been really hard for me to date since that whole incident with the dead hooker." Not at all what you want to open the conversation with. It might not ruin the entire thing, but it doesn't exactly set the mood, either.

[Powder]

Precisely, thanks.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

:tcry::tcry::tcry:

In a world where Guardians of the Galaxy is the best comic book movie of 2014 and frakking ANT-MAN gets a movie that probably won't be awful, WHY do I have to be tortured by Michael Bay getting paid to not care about my childhood heroes?

Dammit. Can I cry on your shoulder? :tlol:

I definitely remember you saying that Japanese Shredder was "secretly" in the movie the whole time, and that Sachs being Shredder was all a big scam... and then the actor himself confirmed that they had basically him come in and shoot a few scenes in an afternoon. And then Sachs was Shredder in both the novel and the video game. And the more it was made clear that the whole thing was a last-minute "fix", the more you insisted that it was planned from the start. That whole thing was tragically hilarious.

It's like your mutant power is the opposite of mine. I've got that Scarlet Witch power where I can manipulate probability, and every single thing I say comes true. Meanwhile, your track record is comparatively horrible. Not taking cheap shots, brother, just doing the math.

Also, more pointless cameos! Radical! Just what I wanted. Even more not-Ninja Turtles in a Ninja Turtles flick. They're gonna have six minutes of screen time in their own movie, and half of that is likely going to be them getting teabagged by Bebop and Rocksteady. Awesome.

At this rate, in TMNT 4, all four of them will be dead, and Splinter will train April and Vernon to battle Super-Duper-Cyber Shredder and avenge their deaths. And in a stunning reveal, Whoopi Goldberg will turn out to be Krang, the mastermind of everything from the beginning. No wonder she fired April. Can't wait. All of that is going to be so totally f***in' neato.


((^^ Special "Say What You Really Mean" Translation For The Nonsense-Impaired))

Why do you have to be so pessimistic, Leo!? That's not how it's going to happen at all! :trolleye: Have a little faith!

The Turtles will get sucked into Dimension X where they will become the gods of a planet of humanoid Turtles, the vast majority of whom are female and look like Venus de Milo. Oh, and Shredder's gonna be a monster with blades growing out of his skin. It'll be AWESOME.

In all seriousness, though, for 2014 I figured half of us were pessimistic (rightly so) and half of us were optimistic. I think the numbers for 2016 are gonna be 90% pessimistic (rightly so) and 10% optimistic (self-deluded).

And yet, part of me is still eager to see what Bebop and Rocksteady will look like on the movie screen... sigh. :tconfuse:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I really don't think Powder's grievance really has to do with order of scenes shot. I think his point was, we really know nothing about the movie, and the very first thing we find out for sure is this, and that's kind of a drag. Like, not "Guess what? Casey's definitely in", or anything like that. The first solid news we find out is this. I think that's what he was getting at. Not what scenes were shot first, but simply, that whoever at PD is responsible for releasing information and building a buzz, picked a really puzzling place to start from. "More Vernon. You guys are gonna be so excited."

That's like going on a date, and the first thing you say is, "I'm glad we could get together; it's been really hard for me to date since that whole incident with the dead hooker." Not at all what you want to open the conversation with. It might not ruin the entire thing, but it doesn't exactly set the mood, either.

Because once they're dead, Cyril, they're just hookers! :twink::tlol:

[Bry]

I really don't think Powder's grievance really has to do with order of scenes shot. I think his point was, we really know nothing about the movie, and the very first thing we find out for sure is this, and that's kind of a drag. Like, not "Guess what? Casey's definitely in", or anything like that. The first solid news we find out is this. I think that's what he was getting at. Not what scenes were shot first, but simply, that whoever at PD is responsible for releasing information and building a buzz, picked a really puzzling place to start from. "More Vernon. You guys are gonna be so excited."

That's like going on a date, and the first thing you say is, "I'm glad we could get together; it's been really hard for me to date since that whole incident with the dead hooker." Not at all what you want to open the conversation with. It might not ruin the entire thing, but it doesn't exactly set the mood, either.

Bingo again. They could put out almost anything to effectively tease this movie before the on-set reports start to trickle out. How about an Instagram shot of a fingerless-gloved hand clutching a hockey stick (provided Casey's actually in this)? Some kind of Photoshop job of a rhino and a warthog in a lab? Literally anything?

The Deadpool movie's also shooting now, and they've given us teases of the character's mask and gloves, followed by a super cool shot of the full costume today. Stuff that sells the main character and the movie and gets the fanbase excited. TMNT2 has given us... Will Arnett at a basketball game with a supermodel. For a Ninja Turtles movie.

That's how little the people involved care.

[Leo656]

See, I kind of don't really care all that much about Deadpool, but I agree with you.

There's "Building Buzz", and then there's, "Ehh, they're rubes. We already got their money." It's like, jeez, man, saying it out loud to my face like that is kind of friggin' rude, guys.

It's like taking your wife out to dinner. You know that the BJ is in the bag, but you still gotta buy the meal and treat her nice. It's just a little matter of respect.

[TrickOrTreater]

agreed just ignore TrollorTreater it seems is only existence in life is to troll the movie section

For a guy who tells people to ignore me all the time, you sure do talk about me allllllll the time.

I'm flattered, honestly but...I'm taken.

I'm sorry to break your heart like this but...it just wasn't meant to be.

Maybe in another life our love will flourish.

I definitely remember you saying that Japanese Shredder was "secretly" in the movie the whole time, and that Sachs being Shredder was all a big scam... and then the actor himself confirmed that they had basically him come in and shoot a few scenes in an afternoon. And then Sachs was Shredder in both the novel and the video game. And the more it was made clear that the whole thing was a last-minute "fix", the more you insisted that it was planned from the start. That whole thing was tragically hilarious.

And how the "foot" clan would totally be ninjas and use ninja weapons in the movie(they weren't and didn't), how the Turtles weren't super strong and couldn't throw shipping containers around(they were and did), and how the Turtles would be the star of the movie and Megan Fox wouldn't be(they weren't and she was).

So much wrong.

Bingo again. They could put out almost anything to effectively tease this movie before the on-set reports start to trickle out. How about an Instagram shot of a fingerless-gloved hand clutching a hockey stick (provided Casey's actually in this)? Some kind of Photoshop job of a rhino and a warthog in a lab? Literally anything?

The Deadpool movie's also shooting now, and they've given us teases of the character's mask and gloves, followed by a super cool shot of the full costume today. Stuff that sells the main character and the movie and gets the fanbase excited. TMNT2 has given us... Will Arnett at a basketball game with a supermodel. For a Ninja Turtles movie.

That's how little the people involved care.

Exactly. Freaking exactly.

Their first official big thing released besides "we can't believe we're filming the sequel either" is "a couple NBA players and a Victoria's Secret supermodel are getting cameos, isn't that totes boss bros?!"

[pennydreadful]

The Movie Wars: Part 2 are going to be a blast. I can tell. :tlol:

[Commenter 42]

Just wait 'till they reveal that the supermodel is playing Rocksteady.

[IndigoErth]

Just wait 'till they reveal that the supermodel is playing Rocksteady.
ROFL :tlol:

So just catapult the whole thing into "so bad it's good" territory? You sure about that? lol

[TrickOrTreater]

I know I want rhino tits, I don't know about any of you.

[Leo656]

I know I want rhino tits, I don't know about any of you.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m32ucneVaW1rut0ggo1_500.gif

[TrickOrTreater]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m32ucneVaW1rut0ggo1_500.gif

You know Bay would give female Rocksteady rhino tits. You know he would.

He gave a racist robot a gold tooth.

[Leo656]

Hahaaaaa, he did do that. Haaaaah.

[TurtleTitan97]

He gave a racist robot a gold tooth.

Dang it Trick, I had just about blocked those two out from memory...:P

[Autbot_Benz]

Skids and Mudflap were not racist at all. They were just illiterate jive talking transformers. Plenty of transformers have jive talked in the old cartoons Jazz Blaster Etc

[TurtleTitan97]

Skids and Mudflap were not racist at all.

You sure? Because the general opinion was that they did come off as racist.

And at least Jazz didn't talk like some uneducated gang banger like those two did.

[Leo656]

My favorite racist Transformer was the one on Robot Chicken, the one who said, "So get'cha ass checked out fo' it's too late, turkeys!" in the "Optimus Prime Anal Cancer" PSA.

That was really great.

[Commenter 42]

Bayified Rocksteady for TMNT2: Rhino-tits


http://www.kaneone.com/larryg/09rigshoot/dlb1.jpg

[Kanon]

Bayified Rocksteady for TMNT2: Rhino-tits


http://www.kaneone.com/larryg/09rigshoot/dlb1.jpg

:lol: and Bebop is her love interest, or what?

[TrickOrTreater]

Skids and Mudflap were not racist at all.

Oh. My. God.

Bayified Rocksteady for TMNT2: Rhino-tits


http://www.kaneone.com/larryg/09rigshoot/dlb1.jpg

Got a canister of ooze in my pants right now.

[IndigoErth]

How the hell does image like that even exist...

[TrickOrTreater]

How the hell does image like that even exist...

By the good graces of the internet.

[Commenter 42]

How the hell does image like that even exist...

Rule 34 & 43, natch.

Of course, let's not forget rule 63...

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/199/2/7/tmnt_rule_63_parade_rocksteady_by_chochi-d6e45ir.jpg

[Kanon]

I just thought "What would be the worst case?"

What if casey Jones will be a female? What if its the victorias secret model?

(Micheal Bay if you read this, dont even think about it!!!!!)

[IndigoErth]

Of course, let's not forget rule 63...

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/199/2/7/tmnt_rule_63_parade_rocksteady_by_chochi-d6e45ir.jpg
:tlol: Actually, in terms of getting more female characters that are both badass and not so thin that would be kinda decent. In most cases I'd be rolling my eyes a bit at the breast size often in fan art, but at least in this case it fits her proportions better.

Now, I'm sure a movie version would probably turn out to be what nightmares are made of... Though I expect the actual Bebop and Rocksteady to be that anyhow. (Universe have mercy if they need lips in order to speak.)

I just thought "What would be the worst case?"

What if casey Jones will be a female? What if its the victorias secret model?

(Micheal Bay if you read this, dont even think about it!!!!!)
It's been considered, though articles state she's supposedly playing herself. The glorious levels of rage that would happen were it true though... Many guys set ready to be oggeling at her might be so torn between turn-on and anger. lol :P A literal raging...?..never mind.

[Xav]

You sure? Because the general opinion was that they did come off as racist.

And at least Jazz didn't talk like some uneducated gang banger like those two did.Gang banger isn't a race you know.

[Candy Kappa]

Skids and Mudflap were not racist at all. They were just illiterate jive talking transformers. Plenty of transformers have jive talked in the old cartoons Jazz Blaster Etc

It's more then them just being jive talking, illiterate, gold toothed robots. Their facial design had heavy overtones of African caricatures.

[Orochi]

:tlol: Actually, in terms of getting more female characters that are both badass and not so thin .

If they gave us the chubbier goth Irma from Nick, I'd be happy enough, give her a scene where she holds her own somehow and I'll be content with losing her in the Nick seriies.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I just thought "What would be the worst case?"

What if casey Jones will be a female? What if its the victorias secret model?

(Micheal Bay if you read this, dont even think about it!!!!!)

Given the choice between Vern as Casey Jones and a female Casey Jones, I will totally take the female Casey Jones.

[Leo656]

Given the choice between Vern as Casey Jones and a female Casey Jones, I will totally make a pact with Satan to keep this movie from ever being finished.

Yeah, me too.

[TurtleTitan97]

Gang banger isn't a race you know.

What are you talking about? When did I ever say it was a race?

Bottom line, those characters were horrible. And anyone saying those characters weren't racist are deciving themselves.

[Xav]

What are you talking about? When did I ever say it was a race?
No you said somehow acting like a gang banger is racist,

[TurtleTitan97]

No you said somehow acting like a gang banger is racist,

No, I was referring to how Autbot_Benz said the way they talked was no different than how Jazz talks. I never said it was racist and that wasn't the intent of my response.

[Vicky82]

Here's a little update from On Location Vacations, that TMNT 2 will start filming in late April.

Last week, a couple of our readers sent us tips about something called Half Shell was filming near Madison Square Garden.

At the time we suspected, and have now confirmed, Half Shell, is the working title of the upcoming Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sequel that is scheduled to begin filming in “late” April. Well some blogs are reporting Half Shell is the new film’s official title, we’re hearing it is just a working title for now.

It’s also safe to assume the scene filming near Madison Square Garden was this basketball scene.

Though the movie did film one scene last week, it doesn’t look like principal photography has actually started yet. There are no further extras casting calls posted yet and no other production notices have been spotted.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, aka Half Shell, will once again star Will Arnett as Vernon Fenwick and Megan Fox as April.

Be on the look out for more Half Shell production notices around NYC and be sure to let us know if you spot them!

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2015/03/31/has-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2-started-filming-in-nyc/

Don't forget it April Fools day tomorrow so what ever stupid news we get on TMNT 2 it's most likely 90% not real.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

star Will Arnett as Vernon Fenwick and Megan Fox as April.

:cry:

Sigh... I guess the turtles won't be starring in their own film again.

[IndigoErth]

:cry:

Sigh... I guess the turtles won't be starring in their own film again.
Clueless film makers have no idea who the real stars are. :ohwell: (Hell, I don't care if they're fictional. It's their movie. Supposed to be anyway.)

Watch Fox and Arnett end up on the poster this time... o.O If they have any speck of a hint of what's good for them they will never do it.



I have to say I'm surprised that with Megan Fox still involved they'd even bring in this model to put in front of the camera, presumably as the new T&A of the film. You must be losing your touch Megan...

Either that or they've decided that not blatantly sexualizing the main female character enough means "bring in someone else to do that to."

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Either that or they've decided that not blatantly sexualizing the main female character enough means "bring in someone else to do that to."

Michael Bay has always been about "more". Pay me more money. Spend more money on the film. Make the turtles more huge. Add more metal to Shredder's armor. Add more explosions into this scene. Add more CGI. I mean, more is always better, right????

That's just what this Victoria's Secret supermodel is for: more boobs and butt for the 13-year-olds to ogle at in addition to Fox's character. I'm sure she'll have no importance in the story, no real interaction with any of the characters (Mikey will probably make a rape joke about her though), and no real dialogue either. It's kind of a shame.

I don't care if a supermodel is in this film. What I do care about is that she won't add anything to the film, and will only serve as eye candy to the sexually desperate.

Say what you will about Bay, but he knows his audience well: yogurt-brained teenage boys.

[Vicky82]

OLV just tweeted

olv
‏@olv
Heard signs for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 spotted around 5th avenue and 72nd st in NYC for today

https://twitter.com/olv/status/583331393926766592

Looks like they are getting closer to start filming something there soon and guessing they are putting notices up to make sure people move there cars before filming starts.

So if anyone who lives near that area try and take photos or record something (that's if you can get close enough) :D

[TigerClaw]

OLV just tweeted

olv
‏@olv
Heard signs for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 spotted around 5th avenue and 72nd st in NYC for today

https://twitter.com/olv/status/583331393926766592

Looks like they are getting closer to start filming something there soon and guessing they are putting notices up to make sure people move there cars before filming starts.

So people who live near that area try and take photos or record something (that's if you can get close enough) :D
Cool, Hopefully someone can take photos or videos from the filming.

[Vicky82]

Cool, Hopefully someone can take photos or videos from the filming.


Think we gonna need a The Official TMNT 2 (2016) set Photo/video thread soon. I could do one now but I thinks it's too early and don't want it have a lot of arguements in it.

By the way where in New York is 5th avenue and 72nd street, is it near Times Square, Midtown ect or on the outskirt somewhere.

[TigerClaw]

Think we gonna need a The Official TMNT 2 (2016) set Photo/video thread soon. I could do one now but I thinks it's too early and don't want it have a lot of arguements in it.
Consider it done.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51639