Krang before he turned into a brain?

[Mick]

Hey this thread might have been started before. Does anyone know what Krang looked like? I read many sources he was a war criminal on Earth and his body was removed and then he was reduced to a brain. I think that's how the story goes. I wondered what he looked like with his original body. Anyone know?

[CyberCubed]

There's a Season 7 episode, "Invasion of the Krangezoids" that show what Krang's body looked like.

[Powder]

There's a Season 7 episode, "Invasion of the Krangezoids" that show what Krang's body looked like.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/7/77/Krangazoids.png/revision/latest?cb=20130709010145

That's one weird episode.

[Jester]

Or...you can go by the episode 4 Muskaturtles:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/PDVD_079.jpg

[CyberCubed]

Perhaps some of Krang's race evolve into those Krangezoids and others do not.

Did they ever name Krang's race in the OT? They sure weren't called "The Kraang" or "Utroms" that's for sure.

[oldmanwinters]

Or...you can go by the episode 4 Muskaturtles:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/PDVD_079.jpg

How weird is it that episode is the one that dared to try and delve into Krang's backstory?

[DarkFell]

Perhaps some of Krang's race evolve into those Krangezoids and others do not.

Did they ever name Krang's race in the OT? They sure weren't called "The Kraang" or "Utroms" that's for sure.
They were called Ganglions. Shredder still called Krang that even though he was disembodied to being a brain.

[Powder]

No, that was an insult, not a species.

[DarkFell]

No, that was an insult, not a species.
Okay, I'll bite - what was Krang? Besides a brain?

[turtlefanforever]

isn't there a black and white sketch of krang and his body? it was proposed as a toy. But yeah that's supposed to be his actual body if someone can dig the image up.

[Powder]

isn't there a black and white sketch of krang and his body? it was proposed as a toy. But yeah that's supposed to be his actual body if someone can dig the image up.

http://www.bogleech.com/tmnt/tmnt-krangbody.jpg

Dan Berger & Steve Murphy did it. It was designed for a toy by the Mirage guys but it was 3 years after the show had debuted & I'd guess nobody at Fred Wolf ever saw it. Not sure if it even made it's way to Playmates or if they rejected it.

[Mick]

I had this gut feeling that a sketch showing Krang's actual body. That is beyond amazing!

[CyberCubed]

http://www.bogleech.com/tmnt/tmnt-krangbody.jpg

Dan Berger & Steve Murphy did it. It was designed for a toy by the Mirage guys but it was 3 years after the show had debuted & I'd guess nobody at Fred Wolf ever saw it. Not sure if it even made it's way to Playmates or if they rejected it.

I wonder why Murphy never used that concept in the Archie series at least.

[sdp]

Actually if you watch the show it is never outright told that Krang had a real biological body, it's only implied. It is only ever mentioned that Krang's body was taken away so he needs Shredder to make him a new one, which he does, a robotic body. Which begs the question if Krang ever had a real biological body. Once he gets his android body he never mentions his body again. Heck in hindsight it makes more sense that the body Krang got taken away was a robotic body.

As already posted in the 4 muskaturtles we see other "brains" of the Krang species. Now
the episode of the Krangezoid is a similar situation to the pilot, it is implied that Krang's body looked like that but also never told that it is, it could very well be that the body Krang grew there was just a body and not his real biological body since it's left somewhat open to interpretation; I don't remember the episode very well but I think it also explained another thing that wasn't consistent in the episode. This theory explains inconsistancies.


I like this theory but I also like Krang's species being brain like beings like shown in the 4 muskaturtles episode since we could call that species the "utroms" of the OT even if never mentioned by name like that.

[Andrew NDB]

The true answer: they were making it up as they went along and you all are putting way more thought into it than TPTB ever did.

[Jester]

You mean like almost any fictional universe ever?

[Candy Kappa]

I think there is some grotesque fitting end to Krang being an exiled warlord, that not only was he banished from his home world but also stripped from his body, and not just taken out of a pilot suit. It fits a lot when he exclaim that a brain is all he have, since if he always been like that, then that exclamation seems a bit out of place.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The Krangezoids develoed on their own and became more advanced than Krang. So Krang probably had just bouble-walker and large robot-body while in Dimension X. When banished to Earth, Krang probably got his bouble-walker with inside the Technodrome (and those wheels for early season 1) before building the new robot-body.

[neatoman]

Okay, I'll bite - what was Krang? Besides a brain?

Let's just pretend Krang was an utrom and those clones were just freaks.

[Ravenshell]

http://www.bogleech.com/tmnt/tmnt-krangbody.jpg

Dan Berger & Steve Murphy did it. It was designed for a toy by the Mirage guys but it was 3 years after the show had debuted & I'd guess nobody at Fred Wolf ever saw it. Not sure if it even made it's way to Playmates or if they rejected it.

Hmmm, shades of the blue babboon bodies from 2012?

"Where's its head?!"
"We lost it, it's under the sofa somewhere..."

[DarkFell]

Hmmm, shades of the blue babboon bodies from 2012?

"Where's its head?!"
"We lost it, it's under the sofa somewhere..."
Your comment reminded me of this clip. It gets good @ 1:09. 0r @ 1:45. Your preference.
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[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Was Krang ever, strictly stated, declared as being just a brain at all? I see him more as a brain-like creature.

[neatoman]

Was Krang ever, strictly stated, declared as being just a brain at all? I see him more as a brain-like creature.

He is indeed stated to be a disembodied brain, they keep calling him a brain and it's established early on that he lost his body, although there are some episodes where it seems he's simply a brain-like creature. You could either chalk that up to the horrible writing of the show or you could go the apologist route and say he always looked like that, the body he lost was just another android.

Regardless, from the 4Kids series onwards he's been depicted as an Utrom. What his exact origin is in the Fred Wolf cartoon is unimportant going forward, because most likely he'll be depicted as Utrom for most (if not all) future projects.

[Candy Kappa]

FW is also a show that changes about Shredder's real name, seeing sometimes they correctly use Oroku as his last/family name and sometimes they use Saki as his last name. So things aren't consistent.

[neatoman]

FW is also a show that changes about Shredder's real name, seeing sometimes they correctly use Oroku as his last/family name and sometimes they use Saki as his last name. So things aren't consistent.

Yeah I know. The same type of technology can be treated as a new scientific breakthrough over and over again, Splinter feared that a sword that can't be used by evil hands would fall into evil hands, Bebop and Rocksteady seem to alternate between former humans and former animals, Atlantis changing appearance and don't get me started on the mask coloring!

Supposedly many of these contradictions came from a lack communication between the writers. Another cause may be Wise's infamous script recycling, recycling scripts that much is bound to cause some problems with the scripts themselves...

[CyberCubed]

Bebop/Rocksteady never said they were former animals, just that the zoo in that episode was where "they were from" meaning the animals.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

He is indeed stated to be a disembodied brain, they keep calling him a brain and it's established early on that he lost his body, although there are some episodes where it seems he's simply a brain-like creature. You could either chalk that up to the horrible writing of the show or you could go the apologist route and say he always looked like that, the body he lost was just another android.

Regardless, from the 4Kids series onwards he's been depicted as an Utrom. What his exact origin is in the Fred Wolf cartoon is unimportant going forward, because most likely he'll be depicted as Utrom for most (if not all) future projects.

I saw a lot of these references more as a reference to his intellect (like he's the brain behind that).

[Kingoji]

'Man's empire had passed away, taken swiftly and without error by these creatures who were composed entirely of brain. Unhampered by the complex systems which make up man, they made and used different bodies according to their needs.'

The idea of an alien invader being nothing but an autonomous brain is one of the oldest traditions of the science fiction genre. The above quote is in fact lifted from the very first alien invasion story ever written; H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds.
I like to think that the original 'toon simply played Krang as a tribute to that tradition.

[Ravenshell]

Shredder: "What we gonna do tonight, brain?"
Krang: "The same thing we do every night, Shreddie... try to take over the world!"

[neatoman]

I saw a lot of these references more as a reference to his intellect (like he's the brain behind that).

Well they aren't just references, it is meant to be taken literally.

'Man's empire had passed away, taken swiftly and without error by these creatures who were composed entirely of brain. Unhampered by the complex systems which make up man, they made and used different bodies according to their needs.'

The idea of an alien invader being nothing but an autonomous brain is one of the oldest traditions of the science fiction genre. The above quote is in fact lifted from the very first alien invasion story ever written; H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds.
I like to think that the original 'toon simply played Krang as a tribute to that tradition.

I liked that the the Utroms turning out to be good guys better than Krang just being evil like every other brain alien.

Shredder: "What we gonna do tonight, brain?"
Krang: "The same thing we do every night, Shreddie... try to take over the world!"

Awesome, and I think Pinky and the Brain actually got closer to taking over the world honestly.

[Mew]

I'm gonna guess he was Mr. Yuk. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7Wwu6Wp0-eayfreiAkcnF7H-509yyFsv3P3V81QZ3w_DHqfPDuzjW0vY

[sdp]

Well they aren't just references, it is meant to be taken literally.

He is indeed stated to be a disembodied brain, they keep calling him a brain and it's established early on that he lost his body, although there are some episodes where it seems he's simply a brain-like creature. You could either chalk that up to the horrible writing of the show or you could go the apologist route and say he always looked like that, the body he lost was just another android.

Yeah I know. The same type of technology can be treated as a new scientific breakthrough over and over again, Splinter feared that a sword that can't be used by evil hands would fall into evil hands, Bebop and Rocksteady seem to alternate between former humans and former animals, Atlantis changing appearance and don't get me started on the mask coloring!

Supposedly many of these contradictions came from a lack communication between the writers. Another cause may be Wise's infamous script recycling, recycling scripts that much is bound to cause some problems with the scripts themselves...

It's never stated he had a real biological body, it's only ever implied. The fact that it's never outright told is enough to warrant the debate, all the dialog can work either way if you really analyze it. We don't know if it was meant to be taken literally, there are just as many references of shredder being a tin head, but is that one meant to be taken literally?

Fiction and shows are full of retcons and they are written as they go and the OT wasn't a show that got too much focus on continuity, the writers wrote each episode as they viewed the universe in their eyes but outside the show bible many things are open to interpretation. It's also a weak argument to say "the writers made mistakes" to explain away things that don't fit your point of view. That's why forums on the internet exist, to explain inconsistencies or have crazy theories and have fun. Most of the stuff fans deduce or things they argue were never thought of by the writers and yet they're considered canon, or fanon or whatever, hell many times the writers like the ideas so much they even incorporate them to the real universe canonizing it.

[Jester]

RELEVANT UPDATE:
NerdSync gets the Mirage No-Prize for putting BOTH Krang's Body episodes in context:
7uW3FdhIdWc

[FredWolfLeonardo]

In my opinion, Krang started out as the brain creature shown in "Four Musketurtles" before growing a body over his lifespan just like the clones in "Invasion of the Krangzoids.", until he was stripped of it by subprime and banished to 2D Earth.

That would explain how General Traag recognized him even as a brain, since Krang took time to grow into the lizard body and wasn't always that way from the beginning, just like the clones. Even if Traag never saw him in his brain form before Krang grew the body, Krang's voice and face, which is identical to the face of the lizard creature, would've been enough for Traag to recognize him.

Also on a side note, I don't see Krang as a first cousin to Subprime, but as a cousin on a species level to all of the Kraang race as a whole, much like how humans and chimpanzees are cousins in the evolutionary tree model.

[neatoman]

Does this topic even really matter anymore? In addition to the show itself not really being clear one wheter or not he was something else before, most modern material just makes him an Utrom.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

In my opinion, Krang started out as the brain creature shown in "Four Musketurtles" before growing a body over his lifespan just like the clones in "Invasion of the Krangzoids.", until he was stripped of it by subprime and banished to 2D Earth.

Maybe Krang used mutagen for that. It doesn't say he ever got a lizard-body. Just look at the Shredder clones in other TMNT versions having four arms. Shredder himself never get that.

[pferreira]

Does this topic even really matter anymore? In addition to the show itself not really being clear one wheter or not he was something else before, most modern material just makes him an Utrom.Can't fault fans for wanting to figure it out. ;)

[ABrown]

until he was stripped of it by subprime and banished to 2D Earth.


Um, yeah. That's the Nick series. Not the original cartoon.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Um, yeah. That's the Nick series. Not the original cartoon.

I consider both shows to be canon to each other. :)

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Maybe Krang used mutagen for that. It doesn't say he ever got a lizard-body. Just look at the Shredder clones in other TMNT versions having four arms. Shredder himself never get that.

I agree with this 100 % It would also keep Krang as a cousin species to the Kraang appearance wise, secretly using some of Kraang Primes mutagen behind his back, making himself a muscular lizard creature before using it to create himself an army of rock soldiers. This kind of power hungry behaviour on Krang's part would likely cause his cousins to banish him for betraying them, stripping him of his powerful and deadly body in the process to weaken and humiliate him.

[ABrown]

I consider both shows to be canon to each other. :)

Really? I don't even consider Turtles Forever to be canon to the original series.

For me it has to be the same creators like with Batman: The Animated Series and Superman: The Animated Series.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Really? I don't even consider Turtles Forever to be canon to the original series.

For me it has to be the same creators like with Batman: The Animated Series and Superman: The Animated Series.

I consider the Nick series and Transdimensional Turtles to be canon to the OT but not Turtles Forever. Just my personal views.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I agree with this 100 % It would also keep Krang as a cousin species to the Kraang appearance wise, secretly using some of Kraang Primes mutagen behind his back, making himself a muscular lizard creature before using it to create himself an army of rock soldiers. This kind of power hungry behaviour on Krang's part would likely cause his cousins to banish him for betraying them, stripping him of his powerful and deadly body in the process to weaken and humiliate him.

I believe the rock soldiers are mutated rock from some extremely weird planet deep within Dimension X where rock can be mutated.

[oldmanwinters]

RELEVANT UPDATE:
NerdSync gets the Mirage No-Prize for putting BOTH Krang's Body episodes in context:
7uW3FdhIdWc

Good find!

In my opinion, Krang started out as the brain creature shown in "Four Musketurtles" before growing a body over his lifespan just like the clones in "Invasion of the Krangzoids.", until he was stripped of it by subprime and banished to 2D Earth.

That would explain how General Traag recognized him even as a brain, since Krang took time to grow into the lizard body and wasn't always that way from the beginning, just like the clones.


You win the Marvel No-Prize of the week for that theory!

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I consider the Nick series and Transdimensional Turtles to be canon to the OT but not Turtles Forever. Just my personal views.

Why not? Continuty problems? I suggest it's set after season 10 since the Technodrome is modified. Theory:

*Seasons 1-10
*Krang returns with the Technodrome after season 10 (Transdimensional Turtles)
*Shredder's back (Turtles Forever)

The silly characters the turtles save April from can't be from Earth, but some extremely strange planet. A portal probably opens up by misstake while the portal between the MWS and 4 Kids realities are opened.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I believe the rock soldiers are mutated rock from some extremely weird planet deep within Dimension X where rock can be mutated.

You are correct, in the episode "Michealangalo's Birthday" from the OT, Krang confirms that his army of stone warriors were created as a result of ordinary rocks being mutated.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

You are correct, in the episode "Michealangalo's Birthday" from the OT, Krang confirms that his army of stone warriors were created as a result of ordinary rocks being mutated.

Yes, but he never mentioned it was from any extrmely strange planet. Just something I came up with.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Why not? Continuty problems? I suggest it's set after season 10 since the Technodrome is modified. Theory:

*Seasons 1-10
*Krang returns with the Technodrome after season 10 (Transdimensional Turtles)
*Shredder's back (Turtles Forever)

The silly characters the turtles save April from can't be from Earth, but some extremely strange planet. A portal probably opens up by misstake while the portal between the MWS and 4 Kids realities are opened.

I don't think its impossible to reconcile TF with the OTs timeline (after season 10) but it just doesn't feel authentic enough for me to call it canon. I love the movie and think it was a very well done project, I just don't think its canon to the original series.

Transdimensional Turtles on the other hand in my opinon, has a much more authentic feel overall, from the original voice actors returning, to the portrayal of the OT (fun and lighthearted with all their puns but competent and skilled fighters who knew when to be serious), and the new twist added to Krang's origins, giving the Nick universe of having a sense of involvement with the OT universe since the very beginning.

I don't think continuity is an issue here for TF. For all we know, Krang and Shredder could've repaired the technodrome after season 10 and the turtles might've accidentally zapped themselves with the ray from "Leonardo Lighten's Up"

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I don't think its impossible to reconcile TF with the OTs timeline (after season 10) but it just doesn't feel authentic enough for me to call it canon. I love the movie and think it was a very well done project, I just don't think its canon to the original series.

Transdimensional Turtles on the other hand in my opinon, has a much more authentic feel overall, from the original voice actors returning, to the portrayal of the OT (fun and lighthearted with all their puns but competent and skilled fighters who knew when to be serious), the new twist added to Krang's origins, giving the Nick universe of having a sense of involvement with the OT since the very beginning and yes, the differences in continuity.

But if it isn't canon, I see no point of producing neither Turtles forever nor Transdimensional Turtles and instead let the 1987-1996 TMNT cartoon rest in piece.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

But if it isn't canon, I see no point of producing neither Turtles forever nor Transdimensional Turtles and instead let the 1987-1996 TMNT cartoon rest in piece.

Like any other tmnt media, the point of turtles forever or even TT for the audience is first and foremost, fun. Canon or not canon, Ive really enjoyed them both and thats what matters to me the most.

[Danetello]

I consider the new crossovers to be canonical, and since those episodes establish that the Kraang and the Utroms are tribes of the same race (with the Utroms being the originator), I am willing to accept that Krang is an Utrom himself.

The whole body thing for me is pretty clear, and this is just how I see it. Utroms use android bodies consistently throughout every incarnation. Krang uses an android body. Therefore the whole "build me a new body"/"exiled from my body" thing is null. Krang is an Utrom whose pride and dignity lays within his existence inside a superior android body. The lizard thing I feel was either non-canon, or perhaps a result of Krang's meddling with genetics in that episode, that caused his clones to evolve into a more advanced version of his species. Perhaps Utroms in ten thousand years would look like that?...

[Casey]

Whether or not I agree, it is really cool to see something like this discussed on a popular youtube channel.

[Utrommaniac]

The lizard thing I feel was either non-canon, or perhaps a result of Krang's meddling with genetics in that episode, that caused his clones to evolve into a more advanced version of his species. Perhaps Utroms in ten thousand years would look like that?...
It's probably more likely reverse-engineering. Like in the video discussing reverse-engineering birds - avian dinosaurs - to be more like their non-avian predecessors with stiff tails and snouts with teeth.

So, the lizards would be the Utroms several million years previously in their planet's history, and for whatever reason, nature saw fit to select them out to being tiny and mostly limbless.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I don't think its impossible to reconcile TF with the OTs timeline (after season 10) but it just doesn't feel authentic enough for me to call it canon. I love the movie and think it was a very well done project, I just don't think its canon to the original series.

Transdimensional Turtles on the other hand in my opinon, has a much more authentic feel overall, from the original voice actors returning, to the portrayal of the OT (fun and lighthearted with all their puns but competent and skilled fighters who knew when to be serious), and the new twist added to Krang's origins, giving the Nick universe of having a sense of involvement with the OT universe since the very beginning.

I don't think continuity is an issue here for TF. For all we know, Krang and Shredder could've repaired the technodrome after season 10 and the turtles might've accidentally zapped themselves with the ray from "Leonardo Lighten's Up"

Krang could have returned to Dimension X alone and then back to Earth again teaming up with Shredder. Krang and Shredder were last seen on Earth in "Turtles to the Second Power".

[Yabuturtle]

I think it's heavily implied he had a body. There is nothing else in the series that said he didn't have one, other than that one episode where we saw other members of his race in bubble walkers. Everything else indicates that he had a physical body.

He seemed pretty distraught over the whole thing, which would make more sense if he had a physical body as opposed to a robotic body and the numerous times where he proclaims that his brain is all that he's got left. He was always like that, he probably wouldn't say something like that. He would also mention things like hands and ears. He would say something like "If I had hands, I'd cover my ears, if I had them" That kind of implies he did have hands and ears at one point.

Krang created CLONES of himself and due to the cloning process they began growing bodies. If they were always brain-like aliens, why would they even grow reptilian bodies to begin with. They were all reptiles and I don't think it's a coincidence because Krang would croak numerous times, kind of like a lizard or other reptiles. Even Beserko didn't really recognize him until he overheard Donatello calling him Krang and remarked that he had a body the last time they met.

I think it's much more likely that he had a body. When you add it all up and put two and two together, it begins to make more sense.

[Sumac]

I remember there was a concept for a Krang toy, which depicted him before he lost his body. It was a big muscled monster, with detachable head, which looked like Krang.
I think it was one of those concepts which never had been realized and it looked nothing like "krangazoids" from cartoon.

[ABrown]

I think Krang's species start off as brain like creatures (as shown in the flashback of Four Musketurtles). At some point in their lifetimes, they grow bodies (as shown in Invasion of the Krangazoids). As Krang stated, when he was banished to Earth, his body split. Leaving him in his original brain like state.

[Yabuturtle]

I remember him saying "If I had hands, I'd cover my ears, if I had them." That kind of implies he did have a body and did have hands and ears before it was taken away from him. If he was always a brain, why would he say that?

That and he croaks and makes noises similar to a reptile.

[Powder]

Actually, it implies the opposite.

[Commenter 42]

I remember him saying "If I had hands, I'd cover my ears, if I had them." That kind of implies he did have a body and did have hands and ears before it was taken away from him. If he was always a brain, why would he say that?

That and he croaks and makes noises similar to a reptile.

What reptile croaks?

[Yabuturtle]

Actually, it implies the opposite.

I don't see how that does. At all.

Could you explain? If he was always a brain why would he mention something like hands and ears, something that Utroms don't have and never had? Wasn't Krang mentioned to be disembodied? And that Krang mentions that a brain is all that he's got left?

[Powder]

It'd be like if something good happened to you in the company of dogs:

"My tail would be wagging right now, if I had one."

It's just a joke from a writer, try not to look into it so much.

[Wesley]

I guess what Krang was before he lost his body can be open to interpretation, though I thought Invasion of the Krangzoids made it clear that Krang had a bological body.

[Yabuturtle]

It wouldn't make sense for brain-like aliens to all of a sudden grow bodies like that. They were all clones of Krang. They wouldn't have grown any bodies at all if Krang was always an utrom. Oddly enough, even though they are clones of Krang, they all look and sound different when they grow their bodies back, but I guess that was so the audience could tell them apart more easily.

I think there are more clues hinting that he had a body. There's only one or two things indicating that he was always a brain, but there's way more evidence, strongly implying he had a physical body. In the clones episode he never outright said that's what his body used to look like, but that doesn't mean it wasn't what his body used to look like.

[Powder]

The problem with trying to figure out the ins & outs of this series is that they had nobody around who cared about consistency. There are so many contradictions throughout the series it's all topsy turvy. Krang's body has like 3 different backstories to it, it might as well be one of those "choose your own adventure" tales.

Personally I like to think he never had a human or beast-like physical form beyond what we saw. Given he was based on Utroms, & they too were just anthropomorphized brains, it makes the most sense.

[Yabuturtle]

I always personally felt it was hinted that he had a body. With the way he acted towards not having a body, where some characters in Dimension X almost not recognizing him due to a lack of a body ect. I remember him saying that he wanted a body but he did not want the Rock Soldiers to see him the way he was now. Even saying that he didn't want the Rock Soldiers to look at him when they encountered him with a body, meaning he seems kind of worried about his looks.

I never thought he was an Utrom. We only see other Krangs in that one flash back, and he never mentions his race and we never see other members of his race, aside from his clones.

In Transdimensional Turtles, it's still weird that they recotconned Krang as an utrom. He doesn't even look like any of the other utroms

[Wesley]

I never thought he was an Utrom. We only see other Krangs in that one flash back, and he never mentions his race and we never see other members of his race, aside from his clones.

In Transdimensional Turtles, it's still weird that they recotconned Krang as an utrom. He doesn't even look like any of the other utroms

I never thought Krang was an Utrom either. He never referred to himself as an Utrom in the original series or in Turtles Forever. I didn't like that Krang's origin was retconned to tie in with the 2012 cartoon in Transdimensional Turtles. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Mew]

Here is how I envision him:
http://i.imgur.com/ahwhaG4.jpg

[Sumac]

I think it was directly stated in the series proper, that Krang had a body.

[triplexxx]

I'm going to say the Krangazoids episode defined his physical appearance, the flashback in Musketurtles may have happened after Krang's banishing and body stripping and he had allies, maybe with different names, who shared similar fates, but were subordinate to him, never acquired his resources (technodrome, etc), and never made a trip to Earth.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Makes me think:

I don't think Krang was banished to Earth, just banished from his home planet and later ending up on Earth.

[Danetello]

With the cross-overs, and now variants on the Nick series in the form of Half Shell Heroes and the SDCC shorts, I would LOVE Nick to give us something - anything - of a back story or throwback ep/short about Krang. They have proven that they can produce outside the series with HSH and the shorts, so why not give us other content?

[blindturtle02]

With the cross-overs, and now variants on the Nick series in the form of Half Shell Heroes and the SDCC shorts, I would LOVE Nick to give us something - anything - of a back story or throwback ep/short about Krang. They have proven that they can produce outside the series with HSH and the shorts, so why not give us other content?

I'd watch that. Even if they didn't wish to delve into the body bit, I'd like to see how OT Krang met OT Shredder in some format or another. As for the old concept art of the bio body toy mentioned above, now I wish they made one of those. Then again, I was also the kid who wanted a Krang's android body with all the bells and whistles as seen in the show.

[subpopz]

Traags dialogue with Krang in the first season is what I always thought gave away what was intended for Krangs bodily history, which goes along with the concept art of his brain being the head of a larger body. Traag recognizing Krang as a brain strongly indicates that the brain-form of Krang was always visible, be it on top of a biological body as a head or part of an Android/cyborg unit.
I also thought this because Krang has inset eyes, a mouth, and appendages - all indicating to me that this was his original head, just severed from his body.

I think it was originally planned to be this way with the first season establishment of Krang, but then continuity went out the window in favour of pumping as many episodes out as possible and no one cared anymore.

[Casey]

I consider the new crossovers to be canonical, and since those episodes establish that the Kraang and the Utroms are tribes of the same race (with the Utroms being the originator), I am willing to accept that Krang is an Utrom himself.

The whole body thing for me is pretty clear, and this is just how I see it. Utroms use android bodies consistently throughout every incarnation. Krang uses an android body. Therefore the whole "build me a new body"/"exiled from my body" thing is null. Krang is an Utrom whose pride and dignity lays within his existence inside a superior android body. The lizard thing I feel was either non-canon, or perhaps a result of Krang's meddling with genetics in that episode, that caused his clones to evolve into a more advanced version of his species. Perhaps Utroms in ten thousand years would look like that?...

But how could him asking for a new body be null? It is one of the first aspects of Krang's character that we learn? They even made the toy.

[Casey]

I remember there was a concept for a Krang toy, which depicted him before he lost his body. It was a big muscled monster, with detachable head, which looked like Krang.
I think it was one of those concepts which never had been realized and it looked nothing like "krangazoids" from cartoon.

Check out the first page or two of this thread. It's posted in here.