Tyler Perry Cast As Baxter Stockman In Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2

[Vicky82]

Tyler Perry will play the mad scientist Baxter Stockman in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2.

Perry joins a cast that includes returning stars Megan Fox and Will Arnett, as well as newcomer Stephen Amell as Casey Jones. The characters Bebop and Rocksteady, from the popular Turtles cartoon, will also make their big screen debut in the film.

Stockman is a scientist who creates the mutant hunting robots called mousers. In some variations of his story arc, he also becomes a mutant himself, taking on the appearance of a fly, wings and flight included.

Perry is best known for his “Tyler Perry Presents” movies, Diary of a Mad Black Woman and the other films built around his Madea character. He also played the lead in 2012’s Alex Cross, and played a lawyer in last year’s Gone Girl.

Dan Green will direct Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 for Paramount. Further plot details have been kept under wraps, for now.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 is scheduled for June 3, 2016 release.


http://comicbook.com/2015/04/23/tyler-perry-cast-as-baxter-stockman-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turt/

Hopefully this is a good thing and hopefully he won't be cut out of the movie.

Fingers crossed he will get mutated into a fly. :D

[Mulder]

This is hilarious. :lol: Glad to see that TMNT2 is now a full blown comedy.

[THGhost]

Just heard about this. Seems like Nick and Paramount are really trying to give us exactly what we wanted from the first movie. :lol:

I never really rated Perry as a particularly good actor. Then I saw him in Gone Girl and was very impressed by his performance. It'll be interesting to see how they manage to distinguish him from Eric Sachs, who was basically a makeshift Stockman after the fan backlash of Fichtner playing Shredder. :P

[turtlefanforever]

This is hilarious. :lol: Glad to see that TMNT2 is now a full blown comedy.

agreed. Can't stand tyler perry. He absolutely ruined alex cross

[neatoman]

You know, I just got back disappointed after Age of Ultron and then I read this crap.

Tyler Perry? Really? The man who is only famous for his schtick as "Sassy old woman" is going to play an arrogant mad scientist, presumably the main villain of the movie? There are so many black actors who are both better actors and box office draws, why the hell would you cast a hack like Tyler Perry?

Wesley Snipes, Idris Elba, Will Smith, Jamie Foxx, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Terrance Howard, Chiwetel Ejiofor. If they wanted a comedian, I'd even pick Chris Rock over Tyler Perry. I mean really, Tyler Perry as Baxter Stockman? Why?

[Xiewin]

Okay, didn't expect that.

Not that there's something wrong with Tyler himself, it's just a very odd casting.

However, what's the point of Sacks being in the movie then? Did we really need two baxter Sockmans'?

Just clutter, clutter, and more cluttering. Yep, Platinum Dunes never ceases to impress me :roll:

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

TMNT 2: Madea's Mutation Situation


while i actually have nothing against it..he wasnt bad in star trek...not the casting or focus a turtle movie should have

[Candy Kappa]

okay. Interesting choice.

[Bry]

So we've got at least five villains in this now? Maybe more, if they work in Krang, and if Karai returns?

On top of eight "main" characters?

And how long is this thing supposed to be again?

[Cure]

Tyler Perry was good in Gone Girl and in Star Trek, so I'm cool with this.

[The Stryker]

Ooh. I kinda like it!

[Autbot_Benz]

PD and Bayhaters aside I really think they are trying to make up for the first movie. This one already has Casey Bebop & Rocksteady and now Baxter Stockman.

[Jephael]

As long as he doesn't have any annoying dorky quirks like Jamie Foxx had pre-Electro in Amazing Spider-Man 2, I'm good with this.

[GoldMutant]

[Insert J. Jonah Jameson laugh here]

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

[Insert J. Jonah Jameson laugh here]

That was pretty much my thoughts too.

[Candy Kappa]

As long as he doesn't have any annoying dorky quirks like Jamie Foxx had pre-Electro in Amazing Spider-Man 2, I'm good with this.

hey did ripp things off from ASM in the first PD flick, maybe they'll do the same again. The villain roster in Half-Shell certainly is big enough to do some scenes from ASM2.

[Vicky82]

So we've got at least five villains in this now? Maybe more, if they work in Krang, and if Karai returns?

On top of eight "main" characters?

And how long is this thing supposed to be again?

Well if Nick can fit Turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, Shredder, Tiger Claw, Rahzar, Fishface, Bebop and Rocksteady Baxter and Karai in a 20 minute episode then Paramount won't have problems fitting, The Turtles, Splinter, April, Vern, Casey, Sachs, Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter and Karai in a under 2 hour movie.

We won't know the running time a month before the movie comes out next year, hopefully it be longer than the 1st movie.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

If he wasn't so damn good in Gone Girl I'd have a problem with this...but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Jephael]

hey did ripp things off from ASM in the first PD flick, maybe they'll do the same again. The villain roster in Half-Shell certainly is big enough to do some scenes from ASM2.

In that case, lets hope they do with Megan Fox what Sony did with Emma Stone!

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Well if Nick can fit Turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, Shredder, Tiger Claw, Rahzar, Fishface, Bebop and Rocksteady Baxter and Karai in a 20 minute episode then Paramount won't have problems fitting, The Turtles, Splinter, April, Vern, Casey, Sachs, Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter and Karai in a under 2 hour movie.

We won't know the running time a month before the movie comes out next year, hopefully it be longer than the 1st movie.

you are comparing a show who takes episodes to introduce characters and bring them back later to 1 movie with a certain run time that has to not only introduce all these new characters but have enough screen time to bring back everyone in the first film

4 turtles
splinter
shredder
sacks
karai
vern

plus

baxter
B&rR
casey

not to mention

vern model gf
and bball players we were told will have scenes

[TurtleTitan97]

Bizzare casting choice, for sure.

[IndigoErth]

Not sure what to think, suppose it would work if they do it right, though as it stands he just doesn't say Baxter to me.

Was never a character I had much interest in through any version so I can shrug it off I guess unless Baxter takes more screen time than what's reasonable.

I suppose they'll link some of April with him since she'd have known him as a kid, if we're to assume that one guy in her old videos was Baxter.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I actually do not have any problems with this. Tyler did an excellent job in Gone Girl. However, I just know Black Nerd Comedy is going to have a field day with this announcement.:roll:

[Vicky82]

you are comparing a show who takes episodes to introduce characters and bring them back later to 1 movie with a certain run time that has to not only introduce all these new characters but have enough screen time to bring back everyone in the first film

4 turtles
splinter
shredder
sacks
karai
vern

plus

baxter
B&rR
casey

not to mention

vern model gf
and bball players we were told will have scenes

Ok sorry I didn't think of that but we only got 4 new characters to introduce so far and originals from the 1st movie won't need much introduction. I expect we won't see Bebop and Rocksteady until half way though the movie and I bet Baxter will only be in a couple of scenes.

The model and basket ball players are only cameos and probably last under a minute so thats why I didn't include them.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

[Insert J. Jonah Jameson laugh here]
Got you covered buddy.

ztVMib1T4T4

[plastroncafe]

His performance in "Gone Girl" was one of the few things I liked about that movie, though I should say it's the only thing of his I've seen.

[beeshaw]

you are comparing a show who takes episodes to introduce characters and bring them back later to 1 movie with a certain run time that has to not only introduce all these new characters but have enough screen time to bring back everyone in the first film

4 turtles
splinter
shredder
sacks
karai
vern

plus

baxter
B&rR
casey

not to mention

vern model gf
and bball players we were told will have scenes

Do you count the Dock worker April tries to interview in the first flick a character worth mentioning? I wouldn't even bother mentioning the basketball players that will no doubt be nothing more than a cameo.

We also don't know the capacity of any of the new characters. Casey will no doubt be a bit of a beefier role, and possibly Stockman. But Bebop and Rocksteady may not be in any more than a handful of scenes (created halfway through, 'trained' and final battle?). They may just be introduced and setup for the inevitable 3rd movie.

As long as the script is tight (wishful thinking, I know) those characters CAN be balanced. Let's be hopeful that they are/will be.

[GoldMutant]

Got you covered buddy.

ztVMib1T4T4

Thank you, guess my computer hates putting videos on for some reason.

Anyways, I feel Tyler is an odd choice, but he might be able to pull Stockman off. Sometimes when it comes to certain heroes and villains being adapted, the actors we disagree with pull off an awesome performance. (ex: Heath Ledger as the Joker) I only hope Tyler can pull off the role, Baxter is my favorite villain and character in the Ninja Turtles franchise and I don't want him to be screwed over.

[TigerClaw]

Tyler Perry as Baxter Stockman? I can get behind that, Baxter Stockman is always a wacky character, And I think Tyler Perry can pull it off.

[TigerClaw]

Having Baxter Stockman in the sequel, Solidifies the fact that, He helped create Bebop and Rocksteady.

It could also mean, The sequel will have Mousers, Which I can totally see happening, As he would use them on Master Spinter of course.

[graphic_content]

i know Tyler Perry is capable of other roles besides Madea, but its hard for me to see him, and not think THAT'S MADEA.

im betting the actor who played him in the first PD TMNT, is wondering, WTH?! :lol:

[NYShell]

TMNT 2: Madea's Mutation Situation


while i actually have nothing against it..he wasnt bad in star trek...not the casting or focus a turtle movie should have

I'm so unsure about the future of this property since 2009. It just gets weirder and weirder.

[Vicky82]

I don't no much about Tyler Perry and the only movie i've seen him in, is Gone Girl and he was very good in it so hopefully he's a good choice.

[Leo656]

Hah, gross.

[graphic_content]

I don't no much about Tyler Perry and the only movie i've seen him in, is Gone Girl and he was very good in it so hopefully he's a good choice.

He is most notably known for playing a strong, loud female character named Madea - trust me, stick with GONE GIRL, the 'Madea' films are NOT worth the price of admission, let alone a discount DVD.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought Stockman made a cameo in the first. Fox made a big deal about it.

Why recast the role?

[Vicky82]

He is most notably known for playing a strong, loud female character named Madea - trust me, stick with GONE GIRL, the 'Madea' films are NOT worth the price of admission, let alone a discount DVD.

I never even heard of these Madea films, I don't think they were even shown here in the UK.

But yeah I won't be watching them if they do end up on tv over here.

[MrTMNT2012]

Tyler Perry was amazing in Gone Girl! :)

I'm just glad we finally got Baxter Stockman in a TMNT Movie regardless of the casting choice.

[ToTheNines]

I hate Tyler Perry.

[plastroncafe]

He doesn't have the best reputation, for certain.

[Commenter 42]

If he wasn't so damn good in Gone Girl I'd have a problem with this...but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Lawdy lawdy lawdy....mmmhmmm...

You see, he was good in gone girl because David FACKING Fincher directed that ****ing film. You know the guy I keep saying should do TMNT!

Go watch a Tyler Perry movie. Watch ANY Tyler perry movie. Tyler Perry was cast for one reason, and one reason alone - y'all know what it is, i a'int got to spell it out.
So MANY great black actors and this goof ball gets it. SMH

with every bit of news the damned thing just sinks lower and lower! FML.

[xChri5x]

He doesn't have the best reputation, for certain.

Agreed, but Gone Girl showed that he does have the ability to be good.

[tmnt transformer]

Not the best choice IMO… I was hoping for Jamie Foxx. I swear he looked like Baxter at the beginning of Amazing Spider-man 2… Oh well...

[IndigoErth]

I thought Stockman made a cameo in the first. Fox made a big deal about it.

Why recast the role?
Yeah, I was wondering, too.

Maybe someone to play an older version? (Since I think the cameo was in child April's video?) But in that case is Perry old enough. Maybe it's another celeb name grab.

[Candy Kappa]

In the final cut of the movie, it's never stated (in-movie) that black background scientist was Stockman, it was almost blink-and-miss-it scenario.

So, why not recast Baxter, if they feel they have found a better guy.

[Vicky82]

Lawdy lawdy lawdy....mmmhmmm...

You see, he was good in gone girl because David FACKING Fincher directed that ****ing film. You know the guy I keep saying should do TMNT!

Go watch a Tyler Perry movie. Watch ANY Tyler perry movie. Tyler Perry was cast for one reason, and one reason alone - y'all know what it is, i a'int got to spell it out.
So MANY great black actors and this goof ball gets it. SMH

with every bit of news the damned thing just sinks lower and lower! FML.

Exactly he was good in Gone Girl because of David Fincher.

Tyler Perry is not directing TMNT 2 he's acting in it. He maybe a crappy director for these 'Madea' movies but I expect his acting is a lot better (depending on the director) than his directing/producing so he could be good in TMNT 2.

Also he's probably best at playing serious characters than comedy characters but we know nothing about what Baxter Stockman is going to be like, he could be funny or serious we just don't no yet.

I wonder if Baxter is going to mutate into a fly, seeing it in live action could be quite gruesome.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Maybe someone to play an older version? (Since I think the cameo was in child April's video?).

There was a black man with glasses who really looked like 4Kids Stockman around the end with Sachs. I thought that was him.

[Commenter 42]

Exactly he was good in Gone Girl because of David Fincher.

Tyler Perry is not directing TMNT 2 he's acting in it. He maybe a crappy director for these 'Madea' movies but I expect his acting is a lot better (depending on the director) than his directing/producing so he could be good in TMNT 2.

Yo, read it with me

DAVE GREEN. You really think this 20 something is gonna pull anything out of Tyler "I've made millions what have you done" Perry?

He's going to be directing himself.

There's an obvious play here to bring in more black viewers...
So many great black actors, and they go with this guy. They think they'll guarantee box office from me and my friends by putting this guy in the role, but they don't get it. Tyler Perry is a dirty secret, not a guilty pleasure.

[Shark_Blade]

Good news.

[Leo656]

Since they put an Arrested Development gag in for Arnett last time, let's hope Baxter rocks a dress at one point.

[ranger_scout]

Well if Nick can fit Turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, Shredder, Tiger Claw, Rahzar, Fishface, Bebop and Rocksteady Baxter and Karai in a 20 minute episode then Paramount won't have problems fitting, The Turtles, Splinter, April, Vern, Casey, Sachs, Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter and Karai in a under 2 hour movie.

We won't know the running time a month before the movie comes out next year, hopefully it be longer than the 1st movie.

The original series episode, Landlord of the Flies, had the Turtles, April, Vernon, Shredder, Krang, Burne, Baxter, Bebop, and Rocksteady. I do not think there will be a problem with four villains in this film if they could have that many characters in a classic episode.

[beeshaw]

Was Lem from Better Off Ted busy or something?

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/botmeat1.jpg

[Leo656]

Never mind that it cost them 75 cents to animate those characters into a freakin' cartoon show, but it's going to cost a bazillion dollars to cram all this stuff into a movie.

So yeah, y'know.

[plastroncafe]

Was Lem from Better Off Ted busy or something?

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/botmeat1.jpg

Lem was also in "The Hurt Locker."
So we know he can do drama as well as comedy.

[Powder]

TMNT 2: The Dancefloor's Crowded

I told y'all they were gonna cram Stockman in there to create B&R. Didn't think things would go this poorly, though...

[Galactus]

I'd forgotten he was in Star Trek. I second the thought that good actor aside his eye rolling Madea movies overshadow his other roles to the point it's hard to picture him as anything else.

If remember correctly his role in Star Trek wasn't really that big but casting a fairly big name makes me think Baxter will play a sizable role in this movie which means we have Casey Jones set up, some shenanigans with Megan Fox, Vern, Bebop and Rocksteady and some evil plan by Shredder.

Do we think we think this movie can get any more loaded? Are we really banking on seeing more of the turtles?

[Powder]

Do we think we think this movie can get any more loaded?

Anyone who thinks they're gonna do all this without Krang is nuts, so yes. There's sure to be at least a reference to the character, I'd imagine, which gives them 1 more "person" to fit in there, in some capacity.

[beeshaw]

Remember, we have no idea just HOW big any of these rolls will be. This may just be a case of universe building. (in before - we saw how well that working out in ASM2)

[pennydreadful]

Why are they throwing so many characters into this movie? This reeks of "let's throw lots of stuff on the screen but not give real focus or depth to any of them."

Why not just give us one or two villains and do them properly? Shredder got a totally slapdash treatment in the last movie and this one isn't shaping up to be much better - it's obvious that it's just going to be a case of "Look - dozens of shiny things on the screen! Familiar character names from your childhood! Give us money!"

Sachs is completely redundant and unnecessary. What does he bring to the story? Nothing. But now we're going to be saddled with him because Bay gave him a three-picture deal for the TMNT movies so we have to live with Bay's horrible filmmaking decisions.

[Megatron]

im fine with this news, at least its a black dude with decent enough acting.

[Jester]

I'm torn. I don't dislike Tyler Perry like most...but I'm not sure he's the right fit for Baxter. Heck, we HAD a Baxter....who was pretty much cut out and only in the background of a scene....but still.

I guess with Leo and Splinter being re-voiced and Sachs not being Shredder, so there's precedent....still silly.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Do you count the Dock worker April tries to interview in the first flick a character worth mentioning? I wouldn't even bother mentioning the basketball players that will no doubt be nothing more than a cameo.

does he talk? because if he does you can bet your bottom his budget is more than most of the extras..actors with lines of any amount get a good check that cuts into other areas

The original series episode, Landlord of the Flies, had the Turtles, April, Vernon, Shredder, Krang, Burne, Baxter, Bebop, and Rocksteady. I do not think there will be a problem with four villains in this film if they could have that many characters in a classic episode.

again that's an episode of one long run show..characters are already established before a huge team up happens

Remember, we have no idea just HOW big any of these rolls will be. This may just be a case of universe building. (in before - we saw how well that working out in ASM2)

and that should bother you, the fact that this movie has that many characters that ALL will have screen time and that we know Bay and co focus on human story more than the mutant one, Fox will once again be the center..i bet she names B&R...and its some back story of how she refused to eat a pig as a kid when she was at some farm and the rhino was a baby rhino she fell in the cage at a zoo

or they are her ex boyfriends..they will be tied to her i can see it now

[Galactus]

Do you count the Dock worker April tries to interview in the first flick a character worth mentioning? I wouldn't even bother mentioning the basketball players that will no doubt be nothing more than a cameo.

I think the issue most people have with Victoria's Secret model and the NBA players appearance is that it's such an odd fit for a TMNT story that the mind instantly races to the worst case scenarios like Bebop and Rocksteady attacking during a game and so on.

If it's just a small scene then it seems like a waste when we know that budget is a concern given the lack of screen time for the turtles was because it costs too much.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I guess with Leo and Splinter being re-voiced

This is the first I've heard this news.

[MikeandRaph87]

This is the first I've heard this news.

You don't call yourself a late bloomer for nothing. :P

Just before the reshoots that reworked Eric Sachs as Shredder to Shredder's step son the live actors were replaced for Leonardo and Splinter as far as their voice work is concerned.
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/234391/johnny-knoxville-and-tony-shalhoub-joining-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

[Jester]

This is the first I've heard this news.
In the 1st movie. The mo-cap actors (Pete Ploszek and Danny Woodburn.) were replaced by Tony Shalhoub and Johnny Knoxville in the 11th hour.

[Shark_Blade]

Why are they throwing so many characters into this movie? This reeks of "let's throw lots of stuff on the screen but not give real focus or depth to any of them."

Why not just give us one or two villains and do them properly? Shredder got a totally slapdash treatment in the last movie and this one isn't shaping up to be much better - it's obvious that it's just going to be a case of "Look - dozens of shiny things on the screen! Familiar character names from your childhood! Give us money!"

Sachs is completely redundant and unnecessary. What does he bring to the story? Nothing. But now we're going to be saddled with him because Bay gave him a three-picture deal for the TMNT movies so we have to live with Bay's horrible filmmaking decisions.

The Avengers has many characters. TMNT 2 has Shredder, Tokka and Rahzar, and that scientist guy.

I see no problem with this casting.

[Jester]

The Avengers has many characters. TMNT 2 has Shredder, Tokka and Rahzar, and that scientist guy.

I see no problem with this casting.
Avengers also had how many build up flicks? one for most of the main cast....save Hawkeye and Black Widow who were in Thor and Iron Man 2 respectively.

As for Turtles 2...that's 3 new characters (if you count Keno)....and we "lost" the Pennington (Danny and Charles) and Casey.

[TrickOrTreater]

...

I think Christmas just came early for me.

This choice is so hilariously awful. It's not going to be Baxter Stockman. It's going to be Tyler Perry as Tyler Perry.

And look! The usual suspects are super keen on the choice! What a shock!

Oh my god. "He was good in Gone Girl!" Probably because that movie was well written and directed? Yeah that's it. BayTurtles 2 has the writers from BayTurtles 1 and the director of a sci fi found footage kids movie.

This is such amazing news. Cram this sh*tshow to the max, PlatinumDunes. The more stupid and ridiculous it can get the better and faster it'll fail.

Oh happy day.

[Bry]

PD and Bayhaters aside I really think they are trying to make up for the first movie. This one already has Casey Bebop & Rocksteady and now Baxter Stockman.

If that's the case, they haven't really learned anything. We don't need a revolving door of characters and fan-service, we just need a good story told well. And the more characters you cram into a movie like this, the harder that gets.

Well if Nick can fit Turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, Shredder, Tiger Claw, Rahzar, Fishface, Bebop and Rocksteady Baxter and Karai in a 20 minute episode then Paramount won't have problems fitting, The Turtles, Splinter, April, Vern, Casey, Sachs, Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter and Karai in a under 2 hour movie.

Except those are all characters who've had several episodes to be be properly set up and get some focus. Most of them had an entire 20-minute episode mostly devoted to introducing them. A movie doesn't have that kind of time. Which means most of these characters are going to be glorified cameos crammed in just to hit the right nostalgia buttons. That doesn't make for a good movie - that's just producers with a checklist.

Avengers also had how many build up flicks? one for most of the main cast....save Hawkeye and Black Widow who were in Thor and Iron Man 2 respectively.

Exactly. The only "main" character in that movie who hadn't been introduced already was Maria Hill (and Hulk, if you don't count the Ed Norton movie). The whole point was that it starred established characters they could throw together and have some fun with without having to do the setup work. That's the only reason it worked as well as it did. And even then, they were facing ONE villain, not a half-dozen of them.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

In the 1st movie. The mo-cap actors (Pete Ploszek and Danny Woodburn.) were replaced by Tony Shalhoub and Johnny Knoxville in the 11th hour.

Oh no, I thought you meant that the mo-cap actors will actually be voicing Leo and Splinter for the sequel, unlike the first film. Sorry I read your message incorrectly.:trazz:

[Jester]

Oh no, I thought you meant that the mo-cap actors will actually be voicing Leo and Splinter unlike the first film. Sorry I read your message incorrectly.:trazz:
I kinda figured you thought in the new movie...yeah...I'm not sure who's doing the motion capture for Splinter and Leo in this.

[graphic_content]

And look! The usual suspects are super keen on the choice! What a shock!

ahhh TRICK...you and I have never seen eye to eye since I joined, but damn it if conversations aren't interesting when you are around.

[Autbot_Benz]

...



And look! The usual suspects are super keen on the choice! What a shock!



.

oh look the resident bitcher whiner and complainer is here could have seen that a mile away.:roll:

[TrickOrTreater]

oh look the resident bitcher whiner and complainer is here could have seen that a mile away.:roll:

And here I thought you had me on ignore!

I know you're in love with me but you're going to have to seek professional help with this infatuation, Ben.

[NinjaPug]

I despise Tyler Perry but he was decent in Gone Girl. He'll be bad in this just like every other actor because of the writing.

At least they hired a black actor for the role. I'm sure there's been a bunch if racist assholes bitching that he isn't white like he is in 87 toon without realizing the original was black,

[TrickOrTreater]

I despise Tyler Perry but he was decent in Gone Girl. He'll be bad in this just like every other actor because of the writing.

At least they hired a black actor for the role. I'm sure there's been a bunch if racist assholes bitching that he isn't white like he is in 87 toon without realizing the original was black,

It is nearly set in stone.

Because William Fichtner, great character actor that he is, was utterly wasted and very bored-looking in the movie.

Will Arnett, hilarious comedic actor, painfully unfunny in the movie.

And those writers are back for THIS movie.

They're going to write songs about Perry's badness in THIS movie.

[IndigoErth]

Maybe they'll add a twist - have him dress as a woman and change the character to Braxtra Stockman. :P

[TrickOrTreater]

Maybe they'll add a twist - have him dress as a woman and change the character to Braxtra Stockman. :P

Some posters on this forum as soon as it's announced:

http://i.imgur.com/pkuBzMP.gif?1

[Shark_Blade]

Maybe they'll add a twist - have him dress as a woman and change the character to Braxtra Stockman. :P

WHA..?? :lol::lol:

[Xav]

It states he was in the first film as Baxter Stockman. I heard rumors Baxter was in the background of one scene but I find not credit or screenshot of that. If such is fact can someone screenshot it for me?https://moviecomicswhoswho.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/baxter-stockman.jpg?w=260&h=300
Exactly. The only "main" character in that movie who hadn't been introduced already was Maria Hill (and Hulk, if you don't count the Ed Norton movie). The whole point was that it starred established characters they could throw together and have some fun with without having to do the setup work. That's the only reason it worked as well as it did. And even then, they were facing ONE villain, not a half-dozen of them.Didn't they face like a whole army in that movie?

[Tora]

You know, I just got back disappointed after Age of Ultron and then I read this crap.

Tyler Perry? Really? The man who is only famous for his schtick as "Sassy old woman" is going to play an arrogant mad scientist, presumably the main villain of the movie? There are so many black actors who are both better actors and box office draws, why the hell would you cast a hack like Tyler Perry?

Wesley Snipes, Idris Elba, Will Smith, Jamie Foxx, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Terrance Howard, Chiwetel Ejiofor. If they wanted a comedian, I'd even pick Chris Rock over Tyler Perry. I mean really, Tyler Perry as Baxter Stockman? Why?

Idris Elba and Eddie Murphy would have been my picks.

I thought Stockman made a cameo in the first. Fox made a big deal about it.

Why recast the role?

It is possible that Perry might end up as the main villain which is why they recasted the character with a more prominent well know actor. I strongly hope he does end up as the main villain and Shredder takes a back seat in the sequel.

Oh, and maybe April will be his assitant like in the comics seeing how she was fired also PLEASE let there be Mousers!!!

[TrickOrTreater]

Oh, and maybe April will be his assitant like in the comics seeing how she was fired also PLEASE let there be Mousers!!!

So she all of a sudden becomes a scientist?

[IndigoErth]

So she all of a sudden becomes a scientist?
Nah, she'll just stare blankly at the Keurig while it brews then bring him coffee.

WHA..?? :lol::lol:
Madea/"Diary of a Mad Black Woman" joke.

[Shark_Blade]

So she all of a sudden becomes a scientist?

Let's just assume she took double degree - one in media and one in science.
She's an inspiration to us all.

[shuriken]

It is nearly set in stone.

Because William Fichtner, great character actor that he is, was utterly wasted and very bored-looking in the movie.

Will Arnett, hilarious comedic actor, painfully unfunny in the movie.

And those writers are back for THIS movie.

They're going to write songs about Perry's badness in THIS movie.

To be honest Fichtner looked like he was having a blast at how bad everything in that movie was. Kinda like Eddie Murphy in the Golden Child. Everything else that you said was pretty on Point.

[Prowler]

Bay and co. never cease to amaze me...

Oh well, could be a lot worse. Imagine if Tyler Perry was directing it.

[Jester]

Let's just assume she took double degree - one in media and one in science.
She's an inspiration to us all.
You seriously worry me.

[Commenter 42]

Megan Fox, as a scientist.

Whoooo - boy. Woooo hoooooo.

Anyone else notice that Tyler Perry is repped by WME? Of course he is.

[Bry]

Didn't they face like a whole army in that movie?

Yeah, but they weren't really characters with names and personalities and motivation. They're more comparable to the Foot Soldiers - a nameless army for the heroes to fight, but not the source of the actual conflict. The only villain that qualified as an actual character was Loki (and sort of The Other and Thanos, though they were really only cameos).

Actual character villains in this movie (one assumes) will be Shredder, Sacks, Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter Stockman, and possibly Krang and Karai. (Though to be fair, Karai and even Shredder hardly qualified as "characters" in the last movie either.) That's a lot. And it makes me think many of them will be treated like Karai was - just kind of there for fan service, but not treated like actual characters. Wasted potential.

[newhire13]

Tyler Perry is a surprising choice but he's not a bad actor. Both new cast additions are surprising but solid. I'm definitely open minded with this.

[massakre]

Tyler Perry is a surprising choice but he's not a bad actor. Both new cast additions are surprising but solid. I'm definitely open minded with this.

agreed with this.

[beeshaw]

Tyler Perry is a surprising choice but he's not a bad actor. Both new cast additions are surprising but solid. I'm definitely open minded with this.

You mean the sky ISN'T falling....? ;)

[TMNTChris1980]

I probably shouldn't even be posting anything about this since I WON'T see this movie no matter what. But, this is another example of random casting, and nostalgia bait. I really wonder if this movie will bomb, I think by the time this one comes out, the curiosity and appeal for the fair weather fan will be gone.

[TrickOrTreater]

Tyler Perry is a surprising choice but he's not a bad actor. Both new cast additions are surprising but solid. I'm definitely open minded with this.

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[TheSkeletonMan939]

Let's just assume she took double degree - one in media and one in science.

If Fox could be a scientist, why would she let herself get stuck in a reporter job she hated?

[Shark_Blade]

You seriously worry me.

What? :P

If Fox could be a scientist, why would she let herself get stuck in a reporter job she hated?

That was her first passion. She's still hoping to get the biggest scoop of the century!

Turns out it might not work out so she fall back into the science field. That's where Baxter comes in.

[TrickOrTreater]

What? :P



That was her first passion. She's still hoping to get the biggest scoop of the century!

Turns out it might not work out so she fall back into the science field. That's where Baxter comes in.

This is so stupid.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

What? :P



That was her first passion. She's still hoping to get the biggest scoop of the century!

Turns out it might not work out so she fall back into the science field. That's where Baxter comes in.

so her passion is news reporter..but just in case she fails..she has science to fall back on?.......backasswords much? i used to make better stories with my action figures

[TigerClaw]

Perhaps April gets her job back at Channel 6, Maybe Vernon help get her job back or something.

Anyways, April would know Baxter Stockman, Because she knew him when she was little.

However Baxter Stockman wasn't around when April's dad burned down the lab and getting killed by Erick Sacks.

I could see something where she goes to him, Cause he knew her father, But later uncovers something sinister, when she founds out he's working for the Shredder.

[Shark_Blade]

I think it's not necessary for her to be a scientist/intern. She could just come in as a reporter doing coverage at Stockman's lab.
so her passion is news reporter..but just in case she fails..she has science to fall back on?.......backasswords much? i used to make better stories with my action figures
Well you come up with your own backstory then. :P Or the movie writers.

[Commenter 42]

You know, I can't recall the last time I met some one who was fired, then magically got their job back.

But there I go again, suggesting something make sense in this turd.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Well you come up with your own backstory then. :P Or the movie writers.

id rather keep my talents attached to good projects

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm going to guess that Baxter owns a laboratory and April gets a part time job as a lab assistant.

[TigerClaw]

I'm going to guess that Baxter owns a laboratory and April gets a part time job as a lab assistant.
That seems plausible because, She knows that Baxter Stockman knew her father, But He wasn't around when her dad burned down the laboratory.

[Mugic]

C'mon guys lay off Tyler Perry, i actually think he's a good actor and enjoys his Madea movi..*Shot*

[Leo656]

To be fair, Tara Reid once played a scientist... :lol: I'd argue that's a little harder to believe. A little.

[IndigoErth]

Job as lab assistant in order to spy for the Turtles.

But she won't be believable at all, is held hostage and plays the damsel that must be rescued by the Turtles who should have better sense and just leave her there.

[NinjaPug]

Perhaps April gets her job back at Channel 6, Maybe Vernon help get her job back or something.

Anyways, April would know Baxter Stockman, Because she knew him when she was little.

However Baxter Stockman wasn't around when April's dad burned down the lab and getting killed by Erick Sacks.

I could see something where she goes to him, Cause he knew her father, But later uncovers something sinister, when she founds out he's working for the Shredder.

So, did April's dad die in the fire that she and the audience saw or from Sachs shooting him? That whole thing made no sense. It's like the writers forgot he died in a fire.

[Commenter 42]

To be fair, Tara Reid once played a scientist... :lol: I'd argue that's a little harder to believe. A little.

Sharknado?

[Xav]

Alone in the Dark.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

While I'm thrilled to get Stockman and some Mousers in a TMNT movie, and I haven't seen any of Tyler Perry so I can't comment on that...

... I'm really worried about how they're going to handle all these villains. Hell, they couldn't handle the villains in the first movie. Karai who? And what exactly was up with that Japanese dude Shredder? He adopted an old guy as his "son" Eric Sachs? Total crapfest. :tgrumble:

But don't worry, this movie's gonna have:

Rocksteady
Bebop
Baxter Stockman
Shredder and/or Sachs

There's no way Karai's gonna be in this movie. They don't have room for her five lines from the first movie. :trolleye:

[IndigoErth]

There's no way Karai's gonna be in this movie. They don't have room for her five lines from the first movie. :trolleye:
Nah, probably not, they have to fit the underwear model in there somewhere. And can't have one too many women, esp one that needs to be a more serious character and not simply eye candy. That's a difficult character to write.

[Bry]

Was Karai last seen in the truck that went off the cliff, or did she crash somewhere else in that ridiculous chase scene? I don't recall. So... fair chance she's just dead. And if she isn't, she'll have twice as many villains to compete with for screen time in the sequel, so she might as well not be there at all.

I feel bad for Minae Noji. She seemed to be a fan of the character and she could have made a great Mirage Karai. It was a waste of a great character and of Noji's talent and time.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I loved Karai in that movie. Too bad she got about four seconds of screentime.

[IndigoErth]

Was Karai last seen in the truck that went off the cliff, or did she crash somewhere else in that ridiculous chase scene? I don't recall.
I believe it was left on it's side, off out of to the side after Raph slammed into it. Didn't go over the cliff though.

But if Karai survived that... well, good luck pulling your broken self out of that wreckage and getting yourself to help off a snowy mountain side.

Agree they should have done more with her if she doesn't show up again. :ohwell:

[neatoman]

Nah, probably not, they have to fit the underwear model in there somewhere. And can't have one too many women, esp one that needs to be a more serious character and not simply eye candy. That's a difficult character to write.

Oh I don't know if they need to cut out Karai if they wanted eye candy...
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[IndigoErth]

:lol: Oh dear.

If she lives though and remains in this series of movies I want her to 1. eventually defect to the good side then 2. somehow kill a bad guy with those cheekbones. :tlol:

[Jephael]

10 years ago I really wanted Tia Carerre to play Karai.

http://hqpictures.mobi/wp-content/uploads/tia-carrere-7.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Maybe they'll bring Karai back as one of those Catholic schoolgirls... :teek:

[IndigoErth]

As much as it would annoy me of the apparent Bay-style treatment of women... I'd laugh my ass off at that.

Even more-so if Mikey is tasked to beat up on a Catholic school girl android.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I would much rather them get someone like Jeff Goldblum to play Stockman. If he'll probably become a fly, there's no real reason to have him be played by a black guy.

[NinjaPug]

I would much rather them get someone like Jeff Goldblum to play Stockman. If he'll probably become a fly, there's no real reason to have him be played by a black guy.

Because he might be turned into a fly he should be played by a white guy?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I wouldn't mind seeing Karai get robotic limbs or something silly like that if she really did survive that crash. At least then they'll have a reason to give her more screentime in the sequel.

Maybe they'll bring Karai back as one of those Catholic schoolgirls... :teek:

After nearly losing her life in the previous movie, Karai has a change of heart and becomes a devout Catholic, renouncing her evil past...

Nah, not even Bay is crazy enough for that storyline. Right?... right?

If he'll probably become a fly, there's no real reason to have him be played by a black guy.

Oh.

It's only worth keeping his original ethnicity if he doesn't turn into a fly?

[oldmanwinters]

Has anybody on this thread made the "The Class is House of Pain 101. Your instructor is Casey Jones" joke yet?

[Bitsy83]

Ok.....I've been getting over a lot of head congestion so I'm late coming on here, but I am not surprised at how many posts this bit of news has received.

Honestly, I don't know what to say. I mean, I've never seen Tyler Perry in any movie aside from the Star Trek and, from what I understand, he's a very dedicated and versatile actor. Would he have been my first choice for Stockman? Probably not, but here we are.

How much do you want to bet this is just like what happened when Whoopi Goldberg was cast as Thompson from Channel 6? Remember how people geek raged about that and it turns out her role was only, what....5 minutes long? And that's including every scene she was in? How much do you want to bet that's what this will be. Maybe Stockman will be in a small scene with Shredder or something and then is axed off and replaced with Sachs because, let's face it, Sachs pretty much WAS Stockman in the first movie.

I made a post earlier how I'd love it if we excluded Shredder from this movie and had General Kraang and Stockman working together like they did in the IDW comics. Stockman tricks Sachs and hands him over to Kraang for some experiment and turns him into a huge monster (NOT Bebop and Rocksteady) that the Turtles need to fight later on. Stockman gets blown up or something by the end of the movie, but Bebop and Rocksteady get away only to be found by Shredder who forces them to join forces with him, leading into a third movie.

Just my two cents....

[TrickOrTreater]

Oh I don't know if they need to cut out Karai if they wanted eye candy...
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[Xav]

While I'm thrilled to get Stockman and some Mousers in a TMNT movie, and I haven't seen any of Tyler Perry so I can't comment on that...Wait who said Mousers are gonna be in this movie?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

How much do you want to bet this is just like what happened when Whoopi Goldberg was cast as Thompson from Channel 6? Remember how people geek raged about that and it turns out her role was only, what....5 minutes long? And that's including every scene she was in? How much do you want to bet that's what this will be. Maybe Stockman will be in a small scene with Shredder or something and then is axed off and replaced with Sachs because, let's face it, Sachs pretty much WAS Stockman in the first movie.

while you bring up a good point..atleast for me tyler perry as baxter isnt so much the problem

its the dollar sign and the introduction of ANOTHER charactrer into a movie already loaded movie

lets say what you posted happens....Perry scenes would have already been shot, and Perry already got paid..thats money that is gone and they wont get back.., just because he is cut doesnt mean he wont get paid (trust me i know this) and i would bet my measly 2 dollar royalty checks Perrys sign on bonus isnt cheap

its money that is "Wasted" because they couldve put it towards something else...also time wasted on the general pace of the movie itself


even the lowest paid extra still gets paid even if their scenes are cut from the final film


but you also can not deny, while yes he is talented in his own way..he was cast for a very specific reason...to cater to a certain audience

again trust me, they are now reaching to his fans...i remember it kinda happened with star trek....my mom went to go see it just cause he was in it

[Leo656]

Alone in the Dark.

Thaaaaank you, I couldn't for the life of me remember the name of that piece of crap. :lol:

Huge thanks to neatoman and Jeph for those pics. Sigh. Tia Carrere never returns my calls.

[shuriken]

im fine with this news, at least its a black dude with decent enough acting.

at the very least. Either way this movie verse is mildly amusing and a joke so why should I get bent outta shape over it. It's not like the first one was cinematic gold er anything.

[Tora]

i'm going to guess that baxter owns a laboratory and april gets a part time job as a lab assistant.

that seems plausible because, she knows that baxter stockman knew her father, but he wasn't around when her dad burned down the laboratory.

thank you!

[D Piddy 1982]

Everyone seems to be getting hung up on the growing cast roster & how they'll fit everything & everyone into the movie. Well I for one would not be at all surprised if B&R turn out to have as much impact & screen time as Rhino in Spidey 2.

Strongly suspicious we're being fed BS about B&R appearing as "main" characters...I think they'll have 20 seconds or so before the closing credits...

[Candy Kappa]

Yeah, I don't think having more character will make less time for character moments for others. The Turtles are already bare boned archetypes off their character, and that not change in Half-Shell. R&B will be one dimensional as well acting more or less equivalent as one character. Karai is just a unique looking hencheman, not a fully character.

We might get some good scenes with Stockman and Sacks trying to one-up each other.

[Jester]

Because he might be turned into a fly he should be played by a white guy?

Oh.

It's only worth keeping his original ethnicity if he doesn't turn into a fly?
I'm sure he's only saying that for the "I see what you did there...." factor of casting "The Fly" as Baxter.

[pennydreadful]

Either that or he's channeling The Offspring and wants to say that Baxter is pretty fly for a white guy. :lol:

[Jester]

Either that or he's channeling The Offspring and wants to say that Baxter is pretty fly for a white guy. :lol:
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(Thanks for another excuse to use one of my fave SNL videos, Penny. :D)

[MikeandRaph87]

It states he was in the first film as Baxter Stockman. I heard rumors Baxter was in the background of one scene but I find not credit or screenshot of that. If such is fact can someone screenshot it for me?

[Jester]

It states he was in the first film as Baxter Stockman. I heard rumors Baxter was in the background of one scene but I find not credit or screenshot of that. If such is fact can someone screenshot it for me?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Baxter.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Baxter2.png

[METALHEAD]

As long as he doesn't have any annoying dorky quirks like Jamie Foxx had pre-Electro in Amazing Spider-Man 2, I'm good with this.

actually. i loiked jammie foxx, the whole time i pictured him as the perfect nerdy stockman.

[MikeandRaph87]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Baxter.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Baxter2.png

A blink and you miss it inclusion, huh? I have only seen it once so that is why I missed the Easter egg.

[Jester]

A blink and you miss it inclusion, huh? I have only seen it once so that is why I missed the Easter egg.
Very much, although I think there's rumors that he had more screen time, maybe even with Eastman, and that the scene was cut.

[MikeandRaph87]

Very much, although I think there's rumors that he had more screen time, maybe even with Eastman, and that the scene was cut.

The more I think of it I would like to see the cut with Eric Sachs as Shredder to see what was cut. There seems to be a fair amount as evidenced by this figure.
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[Prowler]

Thaaaaank you, I couldn't for the life of me remember the name of that piece of crap. :lol:

Huge thanks to neatoman and Jeph for those pics. Sigh. Tia Carrere never returns my calls.
Lemme try, then. Could work. ;)

[neatoman]

What if he directs the third one?
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