"Me,me,me" Generation

[Papenbrook]

I think we live in an era where people are more selfish. They feel entitled to have everything in their possession. And when they don't get it, they criticize and shame other people besides themselves for it. If its not that, they just want attention for themselves, and not care about anyone else. And if its still not that, they want to force their opinions and beliefs on everyone else. They want to be morally superior. I really hate today's society.


Does anyone else feel that way?

[Cure]

What an original observation.

[snake]

I think we live in an era where people are more selfish. They feel entitled to have everything in their possession. And when they don't get it, they criticize and shame other people besides themselves for it. If its not that, they just want attention for themselves, and not care about anyone else. And if its still not that, they want to force their opinions and beliefs on everyone else. They want to be morally superior. I really hate today's society.


Does anyone else feel that way?

Yeah. I hate tumblr too.

[Powder]

Haha, I thought a mod had re-named the "I wish I was dead" thread.

Anyway, your quip applies to you as well, bud. You're constantly preaching this fat-acceptance sh*t like we & the world should adhere to your beliefs. So congrats on being part of the problem.

Yeah. I hate tumblr too.

Again, you're the best.

[TurtleTitan97]

Why am I not surprised PK made this thread?

[Cure]

Haha, I thought a mod had re-named the "I wish I was dead" thread.


Yeah. I hate tumblr too.

Daaaamn, you guys went there. You went there and bought a house together.

[IndigoErth]

I dunno about morally superior and all that, but there is certainly a strong "Yay me!" instant gratification generation presently with plenty of people who seem to think they are supposed to be treated like VIPs or something for no legit reason.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Damn, this thread got good before I even got here!

Anyone want popcorn? I brought plenty. :tgrin:

[pennydreadful]

I think we live in an era where people are more selfish. They feel entitled to have everything in their possession. And when they don't get it, they criticize and shame other people besides themselves for it. If its not that, they just want attention for themselves, and not care about anyone else. And if its still not that, they want to force their opinions and beliefs on everyone else. They want to be morally superior. I really hate today's society.


Does anyone else feel that way?

I think you've just summarized every generation ever. Humans are, always have been and always will be jerks, dawg - the time period doesn't matter.

People suck. Welcome to real life.

[CyberCubed]

Why do people act like this is some new concept? Its been like this since the dawn of mankind.

People really think the 50's-90's are any different than now? The entire span of human history is just people killing each other to gain more land and more power. What do you think war is about?

[mexichrist83]

With the Instagrams, Facebooks and Twitters of the internet and the instant gratification of likes and comments it's no surprise that it's become way worse these days than it ever has been. It has always been like that but these factors have kind of elevated that self centered and selfish part of people and brought it out more.

[IndigoErth]

Gotta blame trains/cars/planes - we got there faster; tv remotes - didn't have to get up; microwaves - food was ready quicker; elevators - no more walking up the stairs, etc etc etc. Always been out to make everything more of a convenience.

Now it's like "Omg the webpage is taking eight seconds to load, I can not deal with this!" :lol: :lol:

Seriously, even the microwave often takes too long now, right? lol We are a very lazy species. Even the least lazy isn't about to do everything the hard way.

But I'd have to say, yes, it's noticeably gotten worse in the last couple of decades and it doesn't help that you've got these kids now that were born right into having it all "right now," so it's like they're automatic setting. Everything is sooner, faster, hyped up. Just look at how slow paced some/many older cartoons seem now compared to many of today.

Patience isn't encouraged enough anymore. It's all just NOW, or people are mad they had to wait and/or work for it.

[senpai]

I think you've just summarized every generation ever. Humans are, always have been and always will be jerks, dawg - the time period doesn't matter.

People suck. Welcome to real life.

This is similar to what I was going to say too actually. Since mankind started he's always been looking out for number one. It's survival. Obviously there's a difference between survival and being irrational about always getting your way all the time. The latter's unavoidable in society no matter where you go, no matter what generation you're in. Like Penny said, it's just life.

PK, try looking at it as a challenge if it frustrates you personally. Life is full of lessons; and when dealing with difficult people you may be surprised to what you learn about them and yourself. I'm still learning to do this myself. I deal with buttmunches on a regular basis at work. Life is a journey though! When you find yourself in a rut, that's okay but try not to let yourself get stuck for too long!

[TheSkeletonMan939]

But... but humanity has always been this way.

It's just more noticeable since we can observe it more: TV, social media, videos, etc. give us a look at a far wider range of people than ever before.

[Lethal Lullaby]

My mind went to something else when seeing "Me,me,me"...

Oh well. Like others said. People suck.

[Powder]

My mind went to something else when seeing "Me,me,me"...

Oh well. Like others said. People suck.

Blue haired anime babes twerking? Ditto.

[ssjup81]

You do realize that this isn't special to this current generation, and that we as people are selfish creatures anyway, right? This can apply to every generation, but with each passing generation, it's probably getting worse. I'm sure our parents complained about our generation and their parents before them and their parents before them, etc.

[Candy Kappa]

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”


― Socrates
470/469 – 399 BC

:roll:

[IndigoErth]

:lol: It would be interesting to see a good detailed account of the behaviors and what was considered so bad for the time. And said "luxuries."

Youth. All had to have the newest iStone or iClay tablet (or iScroll where available). :P

[Amaranthus]

Does anyone else feel that way?

How about I'll make you feel my foot up your ass?

[Prowler]

People ALWAYS think their generation is the best one.

[Peanut]

My mind went to something else when seeing "Me,me,me"...

Was it this? It was this, wasn't it?

http://i.imgur.com/JELpakF.gif

But for real, I think a ton of posts in here already got this topic covered. People have always been awful, social media and worldwide culture propagated by the Internet means we're far more easily exposed to it.

[Lethal Lullaby]

Blue haired anime babes twerking? Ditto.

Was it this? It was this, wasn't it?

http://i.imgur.com/JELpakF.gif

But for real, I think a ton of posts in here already got this topic covered. People have always been awful, social media and worldwide culture propagated by the Internet means we're far more easily exposed to it.

:tshifty: No... Yeah. Unfortunately. haha

[Mayhem]

With the Instagrams, Facebooks and Twitters of the internet and the instant gratification of likes and comments it's no surprise that it's become way worse these days than it ever has been. It has always been like that but these factors have kind of elevated that self centered and selfish part of people and brought it out more.
^ this. I was going to write something but Mexichrist has managed to summarise most of what I was going to write. Part of the reason I am not on Facebook, sometimes it seems so much of a willy waving contest about who's doing the best, oh look where I've been, who's got the most "friends"... bleurgh.

[plastroncafe]

I'm sorry, I got distracted by the, "Please Pay Attention To ME" tone of the original post. What was the point again?

[Cure]

I bet the topic creator thought everyone was gonna be like "wow! You are absolutely right! We would never have noticed if it weren't for you! Time to right our wrongs!"

[Papenbrook]

I'm sorry everyone. I just noticed that there is more selfishness and entitlement more than ever now. Maybe its just the internet. It's easier to write mean comments and get away with it. I am sorry if I annoyed you all.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm sorry everyone. I just noticed that there is more selfishness and entitlement more than ever now. Maybe its just the internet. It's easier to write mean comments and get away with it. I am sorry if I annoyed you all.

That's actually a good point. The internet does allow a lot of anonymous a-holes to be more a-holey. After all, just look at half the threads on this forum. Or the comments section of any news article.

We are all a-holes. Some of us just like to watch the world burn. Or, y'know, forum flame up.

Popcorn, anyone?

[IndigoErth]

Am not... :trazz:

[Cure]

http://i.imgur.com/JELpakF.gif



That ain't twerking, that's hip shaking. Trust me, I'm hood.

[Amaranthus]

Now this is twerking.
http://i.imgur.com/Otw29.gif

[IndigoErth]

Psh..

https://youtu.be/CddMD3QqTFs

If you're gonna do it, AT LEAST include pyrotechnics.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/7f1e5df0e06adfab62768b3ff72dbe28/tumblr_msw999sm6e1rwzsbso3_400.gif

There's claims it was a hoax, but whatever. lol

[Amaranthus]

That was pretty hot.

[Powder]

That ain't twerking, that's hip shaking. Trust me, I'm hood.

It comes later in the video, my man. C'mon, when it comes to booty, I know what's what. :tlol:

[Cure]

You got me, homie, you got me.

[mexichrist83]

I'm sorry everyone. I just noticed that there is more selfishness and entitlement more than ever now. Maybe its just the internet. It's easier to write mean comments and get away with it. I am sorry if I annoyed you all.

I don't think you have anything to apologize about. You started a thread to start an open discussion about the topic at hand and people started crawling down your throat for it.

[Leo656]

Not so much. It was more like a, "I realize grass is green. Anyone agree?" kind of topic, and people expressed their disinterest.

[BubblyShell22]

Haha, I thought a mod had re-named the "I wish I was dead" thread.

Anyway, your quip applies to you as well, bud. You're constantly preaching this fat-acceptance sh*t like we & the world should adhere to your beliefs. So congrats on being part of the problem.



Again, you're the best.

Well said, Powder. I couldn't agree more about PK being part of the problem. As others have said, humans suck and always will. Everyone's selfish up to a point and it's never going to change. The best thing you can do is just try to be better than that instead of acting self-entitled.

[senpai]

I don't think you have anything to apologize about. You started a thread to start an open discussion about the topic at hand and people started crawling down your throat for it.

Agreed. There's no reason to apologize for opening a discussion and expressing your feelings. As for those that are quick to express negativity, well, the internet's just like that sometimes. Best to not take it personally. :)

[BubblyShell22]

But the problem is, PK does this and acts like he/she is a victim every time. He/she has even gone so far as to do this in the Nickelodeon TMNT section and talked about fat shaming. So, PK is part of the problem.

[Papenbrook]

But the problem is, PK does this and acts like he/she is a victim every time. He/she has even gone so far as to do this in the Nickelodeon TMNT section and talked about fat shaming. So, PK is part of the problem.


I don't want to feel like the victim. I just analyzed the show from my perspective.

Yes, I know I am part of the problem, but so is everyone else. We aren't perfect, but we can try to be better.

[Refractive Reflections]

I would say our generations (Generation X and generations after) are more self-absorbed due to two particular factors:

1) The increasing speed of technology. With so much information at our fingertips, it unknowingly aids in immediate gratification for things that would normally take a longer time. Sending emails (rather than using regular mail), scanning documents (rather than mailing them in a package), purchasing products online (rather than going to the store or restaurant), and gathering information from the other side of the globe (due to the internet). This accustomed expectation in parts of our society can inappropriately be placed on people or in fulfilling goals/tasks that normally take a much longer time to develop.

2) Our generations (thankfully) haven't experienced the brutality and chaos of generations past, which traditionally confronts humanity with their own mortality in a ruthless manner. Our grandparents (the "Greatest Generation") experienced the Great Depression & the Dust Bowl (with up to 25% unemployment in the U.S.) and World War II (60-85 million killed), and our parents ("Baby Boomers") experienced the tumultuous 60s & 70s (with life-altering sacrificial actions against racism, sexism, military drafting) and the Cold War (with the Korean War [1.2 million] and Vietnam War [1.5-3.6 million]). (The numbers are the full death tolls for all belligerent sides, plus civilians.) If one compares the experience of the more recent generations, our more sheltered experiences pale in comparison to our parents and grandparents, who encountered the brutality of life in a more sudden and aggressive way than we have experienced.


So since our generations (from a societal perspective, not individual perspective) are not used to patience (because of faster technology that surrounds us), and relatively haven't experienced the immense hardship that our parents or grandparents endured (which made them to mature quicker), are a couple reasons as to why older generations feel that we are more self-absorbed. ...At least what I'm thinking... :ohwell:

...But if we are talking about why human nature is selfish, well that's always been there.

[pennydreadful]

We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Were-Very-Pissed-Off-Brad-Pitt-In-Fight-Club-Gif.gif

[CyberCubed]

Our generation experienced 9/11 and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. To say our generation doesn't know the brutality of war like past gens isn't exactly true. Sure, World War II has never happened again and we're not under the fear of nuclear strikes, but we've experienced a terrorist attack on our homeland.

[Refractive Reflections]

Our generation experienced 9/11 and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. To say our generation doesn't know the brutality of war like past gens isn't exactly true. Sure, World War II has never happened again and we're not under the fear of nuclear strikes, but we've experienced a terrorist attack on our homeland.

9/11 was a shock of course. But our generation sure hasn't experienced the mass causalities of war like our parents and grandparents did (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war#Wars_rank ed_by_total_number_of_U.S._military_deaths), especially since they (and not us) experienced military drafts.


U.S. military causalities (from Wikipedia):

War on Terror (2001-Present): 6,717, Deaths/day: 1.57

Korean War (1950-1953): 54,246, Deaths/day: 45
Vietnam War (1961-1975): 58,209, Deaths/day: 11

World War II (1941-1945): 405,399, Deaths/day: 297

[Mayhem]

We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact.
That's a nice summation. People have been tricked and deluded by family and friends into thinking they are special, they are unique, the world owes them a living and respect, and you don't have to earn it. And then shows such as America's Got Talent (and our equivalent shows here), with its acerbic put-downs, reveals the horrible truth to them, they are no better (and often worse) than everyone else, and they can't take it.

[plastroncafe]

The biggest sin of generation Naught thus far that they believe they're any different that the ones that came before them. We've seen technological advancement at a breakneck pace before. We've seen social upheaval before. We've seen bigotry before.

Are the challenges different? Yes, of course. But the tropes are the same, and they only way to break the cycle is to get out of the status quo.

We have the greatest communication tool our species has created to date, and we use it to make people feel bad about themselves. And then pretend that they are the problem when they call us out for being douchebags.

That's the legacy of the internet egotism, not selfies. That everyone with a keyboard foolishly believes that what they have to say is worth listening to.

[ProactiveMan]

We were raised by parasitic marketing, simplistic moralizing, half-baked social theories, and an experimental education system. We inherited a civilization that our parents' generation pulled apart, without knowing how to put it back together again. Now there are more of us than ever before, fighting over limited resources and paying into a system that will fall apart unless the population continues to grow exponentially. Maybe we're self obsessed, or maybe we're just a bunch of monkeys fighting over the last banana on the tree.

And to make matters worse, you have millions of assholes like me, writing depressing things on the internet.

[plastroncafe]

But the thing is...none of what you've said is new.
This is the same thing our parents said about their parents, who said the same thing about the parents before them.

[Peanut]

That's the legacy of the internet egotism, not selfies. That everyone with a keyboard foolishly believes that what they have to say is worth listening to.

This is the worst thing.

[ProactiveMan]

But the thing is...none of what you've said is new.
This is the same thing our parents said about their parents, who said the same thing about the parents before them.

You are probably right.

I can't wait to see what munted horrors we hand off to the next generation. They got it coming though, little SOBs.

[BubblyShell22]

I don't want to feel like the victim. I just analyzed the show from my perspective.

Yes, I know I am part of the problem, but so is everyone else. We aren't perfect, but we can try to be better.

Well, at least you're brave enough to admit you're part of the problem. I don't believe that you analyzed the show from your perspective. You pretty much just acted like it was fat shaming because of the models when that wasn't the case. Seemed like you were grasping at straws to me. But you always do that in the Nick section because you hate the show so much. You nitpick on every little thing and that's what's the problem.

[lindz247]

There's always been selfish people and there always will be and even if you can't stand their little bratty selfs just ignoring them is the easiest thing to do. And look at yourself too. A few years ago I realized I was a little selfish myself and that it had to change. It gives you a whole nother outlook!

[SophieDem]

You know what? I hate my generation, too.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, but it's not just our generation. My dad comes from a different generation and he's a selfish a**hole, too. So it's all over.

[CyberCubed]

People who grew up in the wild west of the 1860's probably hated the kids born in 1900 as well. And so on and so forth.

[ProactiveMan]

You know what? I hate my generation, too.

Don't - you're no worse than any other group of people born between two arbitrary dates. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get at the concept of generations. It's not a tangible reality; just another side effect of our need to mentally simplify the world, to fool ourselves into thinking we understand it.

We all know what it feels like to be crapped on for something we can't do anything about, e.g. when we were born. I'm going to try not to do it any more.

[Peanut]

And look at yourself too. A few years ago I realized I was a little selfish myself and that it had to change. It gives you a whole nother outlook!

If you're not constantly disgusted by your former self you're not growing as a person.

[senpai]

If you're not constantly disgusted by your former self you're not growing as a person.

Humility is important. But so is learning to embrace and forgive yourself. I know, Peanut, you're probably using the term loosely here though I don't think its healthy to look back and be disgusted with who you once were lol. Acknowledge, learn, forgive, and love~ :tlove:

[Peanut]

Exaggerating for effect. ;)

[senpai]

I thought maybe that was it :twink:

[SophieDem]

Don't - you're no worse than any other group of people born between two arbitrary dates. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get at the concept of generations. It's not a tangible reality; just another side effect of our need to mentally simplify the world, to fool ourselves into thinking we understand it.

We all know what it feels like to be crapped on for something we can't do anything about, e.g. when we were born. I'm going to try not to do it any more.

You know, I just hate the negative picture of my generation and feel ashamed being part of it. Seeing that generosity and private life slowly start to fade. Experiencing that those things what used to be important and expected in my childhood will lose their meaning. Seeing people putting their problems, everyday moments on social media. Yes, I find it important to express our feelings whether it's maths, literature etc. and talk about problems. I deal with issues, too. However... I feel like quality just lowered and people wants to document every little moment of their life. It's not a virtue to create anymore. It's just cool if you use swearing, show somethign erotic because that's what folks want. I'm subscribed to some people on Youtube who became media prostitutes because in that way they just gain more followers.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I should stop blaming myself for the thing I'm not responsible for and try to do the best I can, myself. Just one thing bugs me. I would like to be a mother one day and sometimes I'm afraid if I ever should give born to a child in this era.

[ProactiveMan]

Well, on a positive note, life in general is easier now than it ever has been - Not for everyone, but on average.

I read somewhere that our brains change relative to our surroundings and circumstances, to sort of calibrate the triggers for our emotional responses. If your life is fairly uneventful, you will respond to the threat of losing internet connectivity the same way a caveman would to an approaching tornado.

Because of this, the world will always feel hostile as we are wired to respond to it that way. It is probably not as bad as we think it is.

[Gunpowder]

I sorta like where this thread's been going recently.

[IndigoErth]

If your life is fairly uneventful, you will respond to the threat of losing internet connectivity the same way a caveman would to an approaching tornado.
See here now... I have never freaked out and run to the basement because the internet went out.


WAIT. The modem is still down there by an old less-used computer. Oh crap. I probably have. :lol:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m809pyhRJU1qdx2kt.gif


No, what's bad is when I was working retail and some girl around 14-ish was headed into the fitting room and she verbally told her friend she'll "BRB."

I mean, it's harmless... even a little amusing to hear someone actually speak that, but really now... lol Someday we'll be speaking entirely in acronyms and lose the ability for actual languages.

[BubblyShell22]

Oh, I hate it when people use text speak in real life. It's just horrible and a lazy way of speaking, but sadly it's around and probably will be for the long haul.

[SophieDem]

Well, on a positive note, life in general is easier now than it ever has been - Not for everyone, but on average.

I read somewhere that our brains change relative to our surroundings and circumstances, to sort of calibrate the triggers for our emotional responses. If your life is fairly uneventful, you will respond to the threat of losing internet connectivity the same way a caveman would to an approaching tornado.

Because of this, the world will always feel hostile as we are wired to respond to it that way. It is probably not as bad as we think it is.

I still think this easiness cost some price.

Is it possible you might know the source? You got me interested. :)