Indepedence Day 2

[Raph's Girl]

Yep. It's finally happening. Not only that but there's gonna be TWO more after this! William Fichtner has been cast as a General for all 3 sequels. Joining him will be.

http://deadline.com/2015/05/william-fichtner-independence-day-sequel-1201434450/

Jeff Goldblum as David Levinson
Bill Pullman as Thomas J. Whitmore
Liam Hemsworth as Jake Morrison
Jessie Usher as Dylan Dubrow (Originally played by Ross Bagley)
Maika Monroe as Patricia Whitmore (originally played by Mae Whitman)
Sela Ward as US President Lanford
Charlotte Gainsbourg
Vivica A. Fox as Jasmine Dubrow
Judd Hirsch as Julius Levinson
Brent Spiner as Brackish Okun (apparantly he was really in a coma and wasn't killed by the alien...)
Travis Tope
Joey King
DeObia Oparei as Dikembe
Patrick St. Esprit as Secretary of Defense Tanner

Im bummed that Mae Whitman and Ross Bagley aren't reprising their roles.

[TigerClaw]

Yep. It's finally happening. Not only that but there's gonna be TWO more after this! William Fichtner has been cast as a General for all 3 sequels. Joining him will be.

http://deadline.com/2015/05/william-fichtner-independence-day-sequel-1201434450/

Jeff Goldblum as David Levinson
Bill Pullman as Thomas J. Whitmore
Liam Hemsworth as Jake Morrison
Jessie Usher as Dylan Dubrow (Originally played by Ross Bagley)
Maika Monroe as Patricia Whitmore (originally played by Mae Whitman)
Sela Ward as US President Lanford
Charlotte Gainsbourg
Vivica A. Fox as Jasmine Dubrow
Judd Hirsch as Julius Levinson
Brent Spiner as Brackish Okun (apparantly he was really in a coma and wasn't killed by the alien...)
Travis Tope
Joey King
DeObia Oparei as Dikembe
Patrick St. Esprit as Secretary of Defense Tanner

Im bummed that Mae Whitman and Ross Bagley aren't reprising their roles.
And no Will Smith either, I wonder how they are gonna explain his absence. Either way, I'm excited about the Independence Day sequels.

[TigerClaw]

The Poster has been revealed.
http://collider.com/independence-day-2-poster/

http://i.imgur.com/0wTniZY.jpg

In the 1st film, The Aliens attacked the cities, Now they want to destroy the planet.

[TheCanadiandrome]

ah so a revenge movie eh? gee how original :lol:

[TigerClaw]

ah so a revenge movie eh? gee how original :lol:
Here's the Synopsis for the Sequel.
http://comicbook.com/2015/06/06/synopsis-for-independence-day-2-has-been-released/
After “Independence Day” redefined the event movie genre, the next epic chapter delivers global catastrophe on an unimaginable scale. Using recovered alien technology, the nations of Earth have collaborated on an immense defense program to protect the planet. But nothing can prepare us for the aliens’ advanced and unprecedented force. Only the ingenuity of a few brave men and women can bring our world back from the brink of extinction.

[TheCanadiandrome]

hey don't get me wrong dude, i'm all in either way!

[XERO]

jeff goldblum as david levinson
bill pullman as thomas j. Whitmore
liam hemsworth as jake morrison
jessie usher as dylan dubrow (originally played by ross bagley)
maika monroe as patricia whitmore (originally played by mae whitman)
sela ward as us president lanford
charlotte gainsbourg
vivica a. Fox as jasmine dubrow
judd hirsch as julius levinson
brent spiner as brackish okun (apparantly he was really in a coma and wasn't killed by the alien...)
travis tope
joey king
deobia oparei as dikembe
patrick st. Esprit as secretary of defense tanner

But, what about BOOMER?!!

[Andrew NDB]

I've been supremely interested in this since I heard about it. I don't care if it's cheese... Independence Day 1 was pure spectacle and good ole American machismo boiled down to its core in a humans vs. Aliens form and I'm fine with that. This time it'll be interesting to see this new revisionist... not even future, but rather a revisionist present. Had we gotten attacked by Aliens in 1997 or whatever it was, and won... and we have all this dead Alien tech laying around for 18 years, where would we be now? And now they come back?

It's a very interesting concept. And yeah, it's weird that Will Smith couldn't be wooed back for another 7/4 premiere, but whatever. My biggest worry is everything I've read about them planning this as Part 1 of some kind of big sweeping trilogy... yeah, stop that. Just compile that energy into giving us a good open and shut sequel. If it does well, sit down in 2 years and see if there's a part 3, not now.

[Jester]

But, what about BOOMER?!!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hZs8Wv8i1A8/maxresdefault.jpg

[XERO]

Hahaha... hell yeah.

[TigerClaw]

Fox had a Press Conference for Independence Day 2, Which is officially titled Independence Day: Resurgence.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIJtMYVWcAAsuH7.jpg

The Press Conference Starts on the 57:11 mark.

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They showed the new vehicles that are in the sequel, One is a hybrid fighter jet and and a forklift type vehicle called the Moon Tug

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIJi3bRVAAAMcO0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIJjYfCVEAA5JxV.jpg

Check out this Concept Art courtesy of Empire Online.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=44675

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/92037.jpg

[Leofan26]

No offense to Will Smith fans but I'm glad he's not in it, from what it sounds like why he didn't return it's due to him not having his real son in the film unlike After Earth which LOL Bombed hard. Besides, Will and his son would have taken a lot of time away from other characters.

Jeff ( David ) Was my favorite character any ways and it sounds like he will be playing a major role in these :D

Why didn't they wait till the comic con for this though? I wonder if they'll do some thing on this there any ways?

[TigerClaw]

a 30 second teaser trailer has been classified.
http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx

[The Stryker]

No offense to Will Smith fans but I'm glad he's not in it, from what it sounds like why he didn't return it's due to him not having his real son in the film unlike After Earth which LOL Bombed hard. Besides, Will and his son would have taken a lot of time away from other characters.

He was already scheduled to film other movies. Suicide Squad being the big one. It has nothing to do with his son.

[TigerClaw]

He was already scheduled to film other movies. Suicide Squad being the big one. It has nothing to do with his son.
I also heard that, He doesn't want to do any more sequels.

[Wildcat]

I didn't care for the first one. It was pretty dumb and cheesy but I guess that was the point. Still I'm kinda interested to see what this is like.

I've seen people complaining that Will Smith owes his fame to this and it's what made him a big a star. It makes me laugh because, oh really?...His music and Fresh Prince were just stepping stones I guess. MIB came out the next year.

[JakeSully]

I've dug the original since i was a teen when it came out as i saw it 4 times and is one of my fave sci-fi movies.

This should be a nice reunion despite Smith is not in it.

[Vicky82]

The 1st trailer is coming in the next few days.

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx

[TigerClaw]

The 1st trailer is coming in the next few days.

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx
Cool it's a 2 minute and 6 second trailer.

I wouldn't be surprise if the trailer came out during the week of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

[TigerClaw]

The trailer is expected to play in front of The Force Awakens next week, which means we will see it online in the middle of the week.
https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/12/12/breaking-heres-a-look-at-the-trailers-that-will-air-in-front-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

[TigerClaw]

Here's the Trailer.
https://vid.me/lvBw

[Powder]

Nice to see Goldbloom & Fichtner. May be worth watching after all.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought the whole appeal of Independence Day was that the characters were just like us, and DIDN'T have access to lasers and Death Stars and stuff.

[Etsyturtle2]

I just saw a comment: "the amount of buffering I just saw to watch this brought me right back to 1996." That was hilarious.:lol:

[Vicky82]

I was looking forward to seeing this trailer, so when I saw it, I thought I was watching a Star Wars trailer. :ohwell:

Sorry I was not impressed with it. :ohwell:

[Etsyturtle2]

I was looking forward to seeing this trailer, so when I saw it, I thought I was watching a Star Wars trailer. :ohwell:

Sorry I was not impressed with it. :ohwell:

My thoughts exactly.

[ZariusTwo]

Remember when one of the early ideas for the sequel was "Millennium Day"?

[sdp]

People actually want this? I liked the first one as a kid but I have no intention to ever revisit the movie again. The story doesn't even lend itself to sequels either. Trailer was rather generic, is probably the best they can come up with the premise.

[TigerClaw]

Trailler officially released.

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There's a viral site for it.
http://www.warof1996.com/

[Vicky82]

The movie looks like it takes place a 100 years later not 20 years.

I knew they would be updating planes ect but having bases on the moon and mars. I't's just too futuristic.

Looks too serious aswell.

I would probably still go see it but not on opening week, i'll wait till July.

[TigerClaw]

The movie looks like it takes place a 100 years later not 20 years.

I knew they would be updating planes ect but having bases on the moon and mars. I't's just too futuristic.

Looks too serious aswell.

I would probably still go see it but not on opening week, i'll wait till July.
It takes place 20 years after the 1st film, humanity managed to rebuilt, and they reverse engineered the alien technology to protect themselves from another invasion.

[Vicky82]

It takes place 20 years after the 1st film, humanity managed to rebuilt, and they reverse engineered the alien technology to protect themselves from another invasion.

I know it takes place 20 years but they done all that in just 20 years. if it was 50 years, it could be a bit more believable.

[TigerClaw]

The viral site reveals the fate of Will Smith's character, I put this in spoilers


http://www.warof1996.com/world-mourns-col-hiller

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/12/will-smith-dies-on-viral-site-162714.jpg

[Etsyturtle2]

The viral site reveals the fate of Will Smith's character, I put this in spoilers


http://www.warof1996.com/world-mourns-col-hiller

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/12/will-smith-dies-on-viral-site-162714.jpg

I hope will smith sees this.

[Raph's Girl]

The viral site reveals the fate of Will Smith's character, I put this in spoilers


http://www.warof1996.com/world-mourns-col-hiller

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/12/will-smith-dies-on-viral-site-162714.jpg

And yet Brent Spiner's character is a-ok. :P

[TigerClaw]

Here's a GIF of those hybrid jets, will be posting more GIFs soon.

http://i.imgur.com/mNupqBA.gif

[sdp]

I know it takes place 20 years but they done all that in just 20 years. if it was 50 years, it could be a bit more believable.

How is it unbelievable? They had alien tech, you think after a world wide attack all the governments in the world wouldn't spend all their budget on reverse engineering and having another arms race? Not to mention their tech wasn't all that different from ours (don't they insert a floppy disc or something to install the virus?). Now complaining about that little segment being unbelievable is more understanding.

[TigerClaw]

Here's some more GIFs

http://i.imgur.com/ssddA6u.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ts4X7DN.gif

http://i.imgur.com/3Car6XT.gif

http://i.imgur.com/YMtK36d.gif

http://i.imgur.com/h0hhgLY.gif

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The viral site reveals the fate of Will Smith's character, I put this in spoilers


http://www.warof1996.com/world-mourns-col-hiller

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/12/will-smith-dies-on-viral-site-162714.jpg

:lol:

I wonder if Smith knows or cares.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

My biggest gripe is WHY is Patricia Whitmore (originally played by Mae Whitman) even IN this?!! The First Lady DIED at Area 51! She was fatally injured in the helicopter crash, and died later in their infirmary just before the final attack. Someone didn't do their homework for the new script, obviously.

[Etsyturtle2]

My biggest gripe is WHY is Patricia Whitmore (originally played by Mae Whitman) even IN this?!! The First Lady DIED at Area 51! She was fatally injured in the helicopter crash, and died later in their infirmary just before the final attack. Someone didn't do their homework for the new script, obviously.

Oh yeaaaah. I remember that!

[Cure]

My biggest gripe is WHY is Patricia Whitmore (originally played by Mae Whitman) even IN this?!! The First Lady DIED at Area 51! She was fatally injured in the helicopter crash, and died later in their infirmary just before the final attack. Someone didn't do their homework for the new script, obviously.

I don't understand what you're saying. Why does her mother dying mean she can't be in this movie?

[Mayhem]

Yeah, I'm confused too, why can't the ex-President's daughter be in the sequel? :-?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

IIRC, Patricia WAS the mother. Unless Mae was only 6 when she was doing VA acting back then. The new actress is playing a DEAD character.

[TigerClaw]

IIRC, Patricia WAS the mother. Unless Mae was only 6 when she was doing VA acting back then. The new actress is playing a DEAD character.
Not really, Patricia Whitmore is the name of the Ex President's daughter.

Marilyn Whitmore was the mother in the first movie, and shes not in the sequel since that character died in the 1st movie.

[Cure]

IIRC, Patricia WAS the mother. Unless Mae was only 6 when she was doing VA acting back then. The new actress is playing a DEAD character.

Yo, have you even see the movie? You're speaking nonsense. Mae Whitman played the little girl. She WAS around 6. 8, by my math.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/id4/images/1/16/18308-22068.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140815141205

[MsMarvelDuckie]

YES, Cure, I HAVE seen it- though it's been a while. Was pretty sure Patricia was the mother's name, but I could have been mistaken. If so, I retract the earlier statement- though I still don't see what the point of her being in it is. She was barely even a "character" in the first, if it's his daughter. What's she going to do in this, grow up and be the gf for Vivica fox's character's son? That would just be lame and pointless. I honestly can't think of a good "role" for his daughter to play in this. Also, don't be so snide. It's unbecoming of you. Not that you've ever cared. :trolleye:

[TigerClaw]

Here's a breakdown of the trailer.

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[DarkFell]

And here I thought that the alien threat threat was no more since the Mother ship and the other ships that were sent out were destroyed in the first movie.

I guess we get more of them coming in retaliation in the sequel.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Trailer has me excited

[Leofan26]

The movie looks fine, I hope David plays front player though. He's the genius every one will need to save the world :D

[JakeSully]

So basically they are doing a Star Wars approach rather than a War of the Worlds approach like the original right? and anyone hopes the original is re-issued in theaters for the 20th anniversary?

[TigerClaw]

Here's the Superbowl Spot, The level of destruction is 10x bigger.

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[TigerClaw]

Check out the new Poster

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53323bb4e4b0cebc6a28ffa2/t/56b89e88b654f99cf2adc0ed/1454939792948/?format=750w

[TigerClaw]

Check out this new TV Spot for Independence Day: Resurgence, its got a bunch of new footage.

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[TigerClaw]

Check out the new Trailer

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[Vicky82]

Check out the new Trailer

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Still not feeling it but I will still go see it as I did enjoy the 1st movie.

[Krutch]

It just seems so... unnecessary :lol:

[TigerClaw]

I can't wait to see it, loved the 1st movie. :)

[TurtleTitan97]

Decent trailer.

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new featurette.

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[Vicky82]

Extended trailer

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[TigerClaw]

Check out the new posters.

http://i.imgbox.com/WjH2Gjot.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/qdi3ckAm.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/nQJHiJPM.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/d3yofMQu.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/KPEGK4yx.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

A special double-feature is coming June 23rd

http://www.slashfilm.com/independence-day-double-feature/

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new clip from the movie.

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[TigerClaw]

Here's some B-Roll footage.

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[Vicky82]

Anyone know when is the US premier date is and when does the critics embargo lifts.

[NinjaPug]

Anyone know when is the US premier date is and when does the critics embargo lifts.

They aren't having any advance press screenings for this.

[TigerClaw]

Anyone know when is the US premier date is and when does the critics embargo lifts.
The movie will have a premiere on June 20th in LA.
http://www.averagesocialite.com/2015/06/independence-day-resurgence-premiere-tba.html

[Vicky82]

They aren't having any advance press screenings for this.

Oh right, so it looks like they think the critics will slam this movie and because some of the other movies bombing TMNT 2, Alice, X-Men ect, they don't want this movie to go the same way.

I'm seeing this on Thursday, I probably be the only 1 there as everyone else will be voting to stay or leave the EU. :P I done my my voting weeks ago (postal vote,)

[Cropsy]

Looks nice and should be a fun movie as i dug the original since i was 15 when it first came out 4 times and even got the new 4K remastered blu-ray with extras with both cuts and gonna watch that first before seeing this.

[ZariusTwo]

Oh right, so it looks like they think the critics will slam this movie and because some of the other movies bombing TMNT 2, Alice, X-Men ect, they don't want this movie to go the same way.

I'm seeing this on Thursday, I probably be the only 1 there as everyone else will be voting to stay or leave the EU. :P I done my my voting weeks ago (postal vote,)

I'll be seeing it a day before you, the lack of advance critic screening does'nt worry me all that much, this director's movies have never scored well in that regard but are often very profitable

[Cropsy]

But will it live up to the original?

[TigerClaw]

I'll be seeing it a day before you, the lack of advance critic screening does'nt worry me all that much, this director's movies have never scored well in that regard but are often very profitable
Roland Emmerich always make some fun crowd pleasing popcorn movies.

[Cropsy]

Roland Emmerich always make some fun crowd pleasing popcorn movies.

My favorites of his is ID4, Stargate, The Patriot and Making Contact aka Joey (who remembers this creepy 1985 German horror fantasy gem from him? i saw this when it came out 30 years ago in theaters as a kid and dug it).

[Cure]

How many times did you see it in theatres?

[ZariusTwo]

How many times did you see it in theatres?

Can't speak for the guy, but I've only some seen them once, but they're on almost all the time on television. I've lost count of how many times the UK reran The Day After Tomorrow, and Independence Day was on just last night

[Vicky82]

Can't speak for the guy, but I've only some seen them once, but they're on almost all the time on television. I've lost count of how many times the UK reran The Day After Tomorrow, and Independence Day was on just last night

Yeah I watched it last night, I always watch it every time it comes on TV and also Die Hard with a Vengeance too, they air that movie almost every year and I end up watching it.

[TigerClaw]

Today is the premiere, we will hopefully get some reactions from the movie pretty soon.

[TigerClaw]

Live broadcast from the premiere right here.
https://www.facebook.com/EntertainmentTonight/videos/10154347734921180/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClcSh6IVEAAbXcO.jpg

[TigerClaw]

IGN has a review of the movie, and it's possitive, they gave it an 8.0
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/21/independence-day-resurgence-review

[snake]

Tiger Claw, dude, how much do they pay you for viral marketing? Like what's the average pay per post? Can you get me a job?

[Vicky82]

There some critic reviews already, mostly UK ones. It's getting mixed reviews.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/independence_day_resurgence/

[TigerClaw]

There some critic reviews already, mostly UK ones. It's getting mixed reviews.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/independence_day_resurgence/
It's got a 57% now, a few hours ago it was 50%

[ZariusTwo]

Just got back from it

It's a bit rocky at the beginning, and almost all the character seem a bit void of emotion and act all robotic regarding the situation (except for Bret Spiner, who just owns it with his sidekick), there are interesting moments of conflict that are raised, but are dropped very quickly when the aliens invade.

A couple of characters, new and old, die, along with the usual civilian casualty list for these sort of movies, but for the most part a great deal get through the adventure unscathed.

Will Smith's son is wasted here, they tease some friction between him and the hothead, but once he loses his mother there's a scene where the hothead tells him how sorry he is and that's sort of dropped.

Despite a lot of deaths, not a whole lot of them happen on-screen either, not even for two of the three Presidents that are in this one.

I did enjoy the bit where the cocky pilot pissed on the ship while giving the aliens the finger.

The third act is the part that really got me feeling like a kid of the 90s again, with the Queen attacking Area 51 and chasing down a school bus. Implausible goofy ****, but something that would come right out my generation's kind of blockbuster.

The sphere reminded me of Marvin the paranoid android from the Hitchkiker's movie, only without a body. I imagined every line in the info dump sequence being spoken in Alan Rickman's voice. The sphere doesn't really talk all that much after it says what it needs to say, which was odd.

So the next film, assuming there is one, will see humanity take the fight into enemy territory, sort of US giving THEM their own Independence Day. Nice pro-active idea.

Take a while to get going, but that last act really saves it for me. Sheer nonsense, but a decent sequel.

[Vicky82]

I saw this today and it was good, not as good as the original but it does open a door for a sequel. I loved that they used the original score from the 1st movie for this movie. I thought funny moments were a bit forced.

I loved Brent Spinner's character, he was awesome.

There was no mention of what happened to Margaret Colin's character.

A couple of the original characters die in this movie.
Bill Pullman. Vivica A. Fox, (her cameo was pointless she was only in the movie for about 5 mins and then gets killed off). Also Dr Okun assistant (I think he was in the original movie) also dies.


The new president doesn't do much in this movie apart from blowing up the sphere's spaceship which was meant to save everyone but the President and the council thought it was evil and destroy it but anyway she gets killed off later (and all her followers) in her high tech secret bunker by the aliens and Eric Sacks I mean William Fichtner takes over as the new President

[ZariusTwo]

Jeremy Jahns review. He did'nt really like it and found it forgettable.

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One other thing about Spiner

They revealed his character is gay, but his partner dies at the end

[Andrew NDB]

Looking forward to seeing this one this weekend.

[ZariusTwo]

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[Andrew NDB]

One of the things I've read is that the music score in this one is decidedly very weak. One of the strongest aspects that really helped carry the first one to me was the very powerful, memorable score, so that's kind of sad.

[TigerClaw]

The movie made 4 million on Thursday night.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4200&p=.htm

[TheSkeletonMan939]

One of the things I've read is that the music score in this one is decidedly very weak. One of the strongest aspects that really helped carry the first one to me was the very powerful, memorable score, so that's kind of sad.

I've heard similar sentiments from others.

The composer for the original film, David Arnold, was not even asked to return. Instead, Harold Kloser and the unfortunately-named Thomas Wanker wrote the score. Arnold at least was hopeful the duo would use his themes. I wonder if they did; I haven't listened to the score to either film yet.

[Cure]

I don't even remember the music, except for the part where Boomer runs through the tunnel.

[Andrew NDB]

I've heard similar sentiments from others.

The composer for the original film, David Arnold, was not even asked to return. Instead, Harold Kloser and the unfortunately-named Thomas Wanker wrote the score. Arnold at least was hopeful the duo would use his themes. I wonder if they did; I haven't listened to the score to either film yet.

I've heard there's some "callbacks" to the original score (of which the consensus seems that those are regarded to be the best part of the score) within the new one, but that's it.

[TigerClaw]

You can listen to samples from the soundtrack here.
https://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-Resurgence-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B01EXYW5TC

If you listen to track 24 called ID4 Reprise, You can hear bits of the original theme.

[NinjaPug]

Pretty disappointing opening box office:

Gitesh Pandya‏ @GiteshPandya
$16.8M FRI for #IndependenceDayResurgence going to about $43M wknd. Won't match debut of 1st pic from 20yrs ago when tix cost half as much.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

First Looking Glass, then X-Men, then OotS, and now this. Maybe the studios are realizing that audiences are tired of half-baked sequels. It's about effin' time.

[Vicky82]

This what happens when you release a potentially big movie a week after Finding Dory.

They should have spread out the movie release dates more not release them so close together or on the same day.

[TigerClaw]

This what happens when you release a potentially big movie a week after Finding Dory.

They should have spread out the movie release dates more not release them so close together or on the same day.
They should've released on the week of the 4th of July.

Anyways, gonna see it tomorrow.

[NinjaPug]

This what happens when you release a potentially big movie a week after Finding Dory.

They should have spread out the movie release dates more not release them so close together or on the same day.

Or maybe they should make a good movie more people want to see

[CyberCubed]

Or maybe its people like me who only see a select few movies in theaters and wait till everything else comes out on blu-ray or online streaming.

This is one of those, "I don't have to see it in theaters, but I'll watch it at home eventually" type movies. I'm sure millions of others are the same and that's why box office sales are so disappointing.

[TigerClaw]

Or maybe its people like me who only see a select few movies in theaters and wait till everything else comes out on blu-ray or online streaming.

This is one of those, "I don't have to see it in theaters, but I'll watch it at home eventually" type movies. I'm sure millions of others are the same and that's why box office sales are so disappointing.
I'm the opposite, this is one of those movies you have to see in the theater, It's about the experience, seeing movies like this on a giant screen, in 3D with surround sound, you don't get that kind of experience watching a movie like this at home on a smaller screen, you can watch 3D and get surround sound in your home, but it doesn't look or sound the same as it does in a movie theater.

[ZariusTwo]

3D/IMAX is'nt that big a deal. It never was in my opinion.

This what happens when you release a potentially big movie a week after Finding Dory.

They should have spread out the movie release dates more not release them so close together or on the same day.

Resurgence's failings have nothing to do with being competitive with Dory, it's failings are in that it's a mess of a movie, and I say that as someone who went in thinking it wasn't half-bad. It needs a lot of editing though.

[TigerClaw]

Just saw the movie, I thought it was good, I don't know what these critics were expecting, they were probably expecting something along the lines of the first movie, but this is a continuation of the first film, it doesn't have to be retreads of the first, all the visual FX were good.

I thought the ending of the movie had a satisfying conclusion.

This movie is a perfect example why I go to the movies, I'm no hardcore movie snob who watches every single movie ever made, my movie watching is reserved for blockbuster popcorn type movies, cause movies like these are best experience on the big screen then at home.

Comedies and Dramas are movies better for home viewing, but big bombastic movies like this, are better on the big screen.

[TurtleTitan97]

Just saw the movie, I thought it was good, I don't know what these critics were expecting

You mean aside from a well told and engaging story? Which judging by all the reviews that have come out, it failed to do that.

But hey, what do I know? As long as it got lotsa explosions and CGI thrown in your face, it's a 10/10, right TC?

[Spike Spiegel]

With the weekend BO totalling just under $42 million, that second sequel doesn't look all that likely.

I have some nostalgia for the original, but personally never thought a sequel was necessary.

Let all the tacky genre movies of yesteryear stay in the 90s where they belong.

[ZariusTwo]

I wonder what this boads for plans Emmerich has for a Stargate remake. Chances are it'll flop if it's made given his track record ain't so steller with this

[TigerClaw]

I wonder what this boads for plans Emmerich has for a Stargate remake. Chances are it'll flop if it's made given his track record ain't so steller with this
Roland Emmerich is gonna direct another scifi disaster movie called Moonfall at Universal.
http://deadline.com/2016/06/moonfall-roland-emmerich-universal-pictures-independence-day-resurgence-1201778886/

This movie is about the moon going on a collision course to Earth.

[TigerClaw]

The movie has made $102 Million internationally
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/box-office-independence-day-resurgence-international-finding-dory-1201803848/

“Independence Day: Resurgence” has launched impressively in international markets with $102.1 million in 57 markets with 21,872 screens.

China led the way with $37.3 million at 6,047 sites, representing the fourth-highest weekend in that market for a Fox title. That nearly matched the somewhat disappointing U.S. opening of $41.6 million.

South Korea led the rest of the pack with $7.4 million at 926 sites, followed by the U.K. with $7.3 million from 1,555, Mexico with $6.8 million at 2,783 and Taiwan with $3.7 million at 300. India opened with a bang, generating $3.5 million for the biggest Fox opening of all-time in the market.

Fox also reported “terrific” results across Asia and Latin America, with numerous markets generating the biggest opening weekend ever for a Roland Emmerich movie. The film opens in 11 new markets next weekend, including Spain and Sweden.

Imax locations generated $10.8 million internationally on 533 screens for “Independence Day: Resurgence.” That was a record-opening international weekend for a Fox release in Imax, topping “Deadpool” at $8.1 million.

With a $165 million production cost for the tentpole, Fox will require strong performances from international markets to become profitable. The original “Independence Day” was a smash hit with $306 million domestically and another $511 million overseas.

[The Deadman]

Independence Day 3 will be “an intergalactic journey” (http://moviehole.net/2016106588independence-day-3-will-intergalactic-journey)

Even though it’s not exactly setting the Earth on fire, Fox’s “Independence Day” sequel will ultimately make enough money back to probably a) keep Roland Emmerich in work (too bad) and b) greenlight a second sequel to the once gob-smacking “ID4” brand.

In fact, Emmerich’s already toying with one particular idea for the next instalment of ‘aliens blowing up famous landmarks’.

“The next one will be an intergalactic journey”, the filmmaker tells Empire . “It’ll be [set] maybe a year or two later, not 20 years [on]. I want to maintain this group of people, especially the young characters, and Jeff [Goldblum] and Brent [Spiner] will take part in it. It’ll be fun to keep that group together. I imagine them now going in one of these ships they’ve rebuilt into a wormhole. I think it’ll be the classic of going into space but it has to be about Earth, and we have a really good idea for that.”

Really no surprise that Emmerich has an idea already for the next chapter because at one stage he was aiming to shoot two “Independence Day” sequels back-to-back, so this “Part 3” idea is likely the same part 3 idea he’s had all along.

Watch those “young characters” try and wiggle out of their sequel contracts.

[ProactiveMan]

You mean aside from a well told and engaging story? Which judging by all the reviews that have come out, it failed to do that.


If you went into the sequel to Independence Day expecting that, I don’t know what to tell you.

I saw it on the weekend, and I thought it was pretty good all things considered.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Here's my one gripe:

Kinda sucks Will Smith didn't come back, so they say his character "died in a training exercise". Vivica A Fox's character dies, Bill Pullman's character dies, they might as well subtitled this, "Almost every character you liked from the original is either dead or gonna die in this movie". Why did they still not give the Aliens from the original a goddamn species name? and why the hell is Earth so damn paranoid?

other than that, solid film

[Xav]

Just saw the film. Though I do have to wonder whey they didn't try the virus trick again?

[TheCanadiandrome]

Likely cause they knew it wouldn't work again obviously but then again

[Refractive Reflections]

I watched the first movie before watching the second, so I could compare why the Rotten Tomatoes score dropped from 61% to 32% respectively, and I think a lot of it had to do with a lack of charismatic characters and establishing their bonds.

The first movie was more character-driven since the audience sees a lot of the details of the characters' lives: President Whitmore's (Bill Pullman) family with his wife and daughter, David Levinson's (Jeff Goldblum) father and ex-wife, Steve Hiller (Will Smith) and his girlfriend and son and best friend, etc. There are a lot of moments where the characters bond with each other and actually create a stronger network of unlikely friendships. This, with of course the iconic landmark destruction scenes, are what make the movie more entertaining than the usual "aliens take over the planet" generic movie.

In the second movie, it introduces a lot of the "new generation" characters, but doesn't go into the depth and detail as the first one, and it makes it more difficult to empathize with the characters. There is a lot of implicit recognition (i.e. Dylan Hiller's relationship with his mother, and with hot-head Jake Morrison), but the scenes are too brief and are brushed aside quickly.

Plus, the new characters are not memorably charismatic, and it seems like Jeff Goldblum, Judd Hirsch, and Brent Spiner had to do a lot of the heavily lifting in bringing back at least some of the more entertaining aspects of their characters' personalities. It's too bad Will Smith wasn't in the movie, but considering that he wanted $50 million for the back-to-back sequels, I can see why the production company refused to have him, but it would have bought a great father-son dynamic into the movie.

The previous characters who did come back, such as Bill Pullman and Vivica Fox, I don't think their characters were used to their fullest potential. Bill Pullman's character was relegated more into the paranoid PTSD character with intermittent inspirational speeches/actions (similar to Randy Quaid's character in ID 1), and Fox's character was merely used a trite device for Jessie Usher's character (Dylan Dubrow-Hiller) that held very little weight (since she was only in the movie for 2 minutes) when her character died.

One new character that holds some promise was Deobia Operai's character (Dikembe Umbutu), in how the provincial African state was able to fight off the aliens before the development of hybrid technology. A summary of the novel Independence Day: Crucible (the novel that bridges the events between the two movies), has a intriguing backstory for him (http://independenceday.wikia.com/wiki/Dikembe_Umbutu).

Upon looking further into the Independence Day: Crucible novel, it seems that reading the novel would have helped to establish the events of the sequel and the introduction of the new characters for the Resurgence movie according to some of the reviewers (https://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-Crucible-Official-Prequel/dp/1785651307). Though of course, this is a novel meant to promote the Resurgence movie, and the reviewers have mentioned to not expect as much action/adventure, but it does provide more details as to Steven Hiller's death (Will Smith's character), what happened to Constance Spano (David Levinson's ex-wife from ID 1), more about Dr. Okun's coma (Brent Spiner's character), the beginnings for most of the new generation cast in ID 2, and how exactly the world came together politically during this 20 year span. Most readers see the novel as entertaining, if anyone is curious to look further into it.

...But it still shouldn't excuse why the second movie couldn't achieve the same entertaining value as the first. Looking back at some of the trailers and clips of the movie, it seems like there could have been more of these character moments and development (i.e. David Levinson speaking to Dylan Dubrow-Hiller about how brave his father was), and I won't be surprised if there are a significant amount of deleted scenes when the DVD comes out. If the second movie could have added an additional 20-30 minutes (which would make it the same length as the first) to focus on the characters, it could have been received better.

So would I recommend seeing it? If you're a die-hard fan, sure go ahead. It will definitely feed your intrigue as to what has happened since then, in terms of plot development, but I would recommend seeing it for a discounted price (in the morning or afternoons when ticket prices are cheaper). For the more casual fan, I would hold off until renting it or viewing it online/cable. As some of the YouTube reviewers have stated, it's moderately entertaining, but it doesn't leave a memorable impression nor at least provide the interest in looking forward to ID 3.


Resurgence's failings have nothing to do with being competitive with Dory, it's failings are in that it's a mess of a movie, and I say that as someone who went in thinking it wasn't half-bad. It needs a lot of editing though.

Exactly. The poor editing was especially noticeable during the alien interrogation scene when the characters are suddenly showing up and are noticing what's happening, and during the D.C. remembrance celebration. The scenes were choppy.

[TigerClaw]

I watched the first movie before watching the second, so I could compare why the Rotten Tomatoes score dropped from 61% to 32% respectively, and I think a lot of it had to do with a lack of charismatic characters and establishing their bonds.

The first movie was more character-driven since the audience sees a lot of the details of the characters' lives: President Whitmore's (Bill Pullman) family with his wife and daughter, David Levinson's (Jeff Goldblum) father and ex-wife, Steve Hiller (Will Smith) and his girlfriend and son and best friend, etc. There are a lot of moments where the characters bond with each other and actually create a stronger network of unlikely friendships. This, with of course the iconic landmark destruction scenes, are what make the movie more entertaining than the usual "aliens take over the planet" generic movie.

In the second movie, it introduces a lot of the "new generation" characters, but doesn't go into the depth and detail as the first one, and it makes it more difficult to empathize with the characters. There is a lot of implicit recognition (i.e. Dylan Hiller's relationship with his mother, and with hot-head Jake Morrison), but the scenes are too brief and are brushed aside quickly.

Plus, the new characters are not memorably charismatic, and it seems like Jeff Goldblum, Judd Hirsch, and Brent Spiner had to do a lot of the heavily lifting in bringing back at least some of the more entertaining aspects of their characters' personalities. It's too bad Will Smith wasn't in the movie, but considering that he wanted $50 million for the back-to-back sequels, I can see why the production company refused to have him, but it would have bought a great father-son dynamic into the movie.

The previous characters who did come back, such as Bill Pullman and Vivica Fox, I don't think their characters were used to their fullest potential. Bill Pullman's character was relegated more into the paranoid PTSD character with intermittent inspirational speeches/actions (similar to Randy Quaid's character in ID 1), and Fox's character was merely used a trite device for Jessie Usher's character (Dylan Dubrow-Hiller) that held very little weight (since she was only in the movie for 2 minutes) when her character died.

One new character that holds some promise was Deobia Operai's character (Dikembe Umbutu), in how the provincial African state was able to fight off the aliens before the development of hybrid technology. A summary of the novel Independence Day: Crucible (the novel that bridges the events between the two movies), has a intriguing backstory for him (http://independenceday.wikia.com/wiki/Dikembe_Umbutu).

Upon looking further into the Independence Day: Crucible novel, it seems that reading the novel would have helped to establish the events of the sequel and the introduction of the new characters for the Resurgence movie according to some of the reviewers (https://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-Crucible-Official-Prequel/dp/1785651307). Though of course, this is a novel meant to promote the Resurgence movie, and the reviewers have mentioned to not expect as much action/adventure, but it does provide more details as to Steven Hiller's death (Will Smith's character), what happened to Constance Spano (David Levinson's ex-wife from ID 1), more about Dr. Okun's coma (Brent Spiner's character), the beginnings for most of the new generation cast in ID 2, and how exactly the world came together politically during this 20 year span. Most readers see the novel as entertaining, if anyone is curious to look further into it.

...But it still shouldn't excuse why the second movie couldn't achieve the same entertaining value as the first. Looking back at some of the trailers and clips of the movie, it seems like there could have been more of these character moments and development (i.e. David Levinson speaking to Dylan Dubrow-Hiller about how brave his father was), and I won't be surprised if there are a significant amount of deleted scenes when the DVD comes out. If the second movie could have added an additional 20-30 minutes (which would make it the same length as the first) to focus on the characters, it could have been received better.

So would I recommend seeing it? If you're a die-hard fan, sure go ahead. It will definitely feed your intrigue as to what has happened since then, in terms of plot development, but I would recommend seeing it for a discounted price (in the morning or afternoons when ticket prices are cheaper). For the more casual fan, I would hold off until renting it or viewing it online/cable. As some of the YouTube reviewers have stated, it's moderately entertaining, but it doesn't leave a memorable impression nor at least provide the interest in looking forward to ID 3.



Exactly. The poor editing was especially noticeable during the alien interrogation scene when the characters are suddenly showing up and are noticing what's happening, and during the D.C. remembrance celebration. The scenes were choppy.
Maybe they will release a special edition of the movie with added scenes on blu-ray, like they did with the first one.

[TigerClaw]

Release Date and Special Features revealed for the Blu-ray.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/blu-ray-special-features-release-date-for-independence-day-resurgence-a144840

Digital HD on September 23 and on 4K Blu-ray, 3D Blu-ray, & Blu-ray release on October 18.

SPECIAL FEATURES:

Eight Deleted Scenes with Audio Commentary by Roland Emmerich
The War of 1996
It's Early, ABQ!
Another Day: The Making of Independence Day: Resurgence
Gag Reel
Audio Commentary by Roland Emmerich
Concept Art
Theatrical Trailers and TV Spot

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Audio
English Dolby Atmos
English Descriptive Audio 5.1
Spanish 5.1 DD
French 5.1 DTS
Subtitles
English
English SDH
French
Spanish

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Audio
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English Descriptive Audio 5.1
Spanish 5.1 DD
French 5.1 DTS
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English
English SDH
French
Spanish

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[TheSkeletonMan939]

Man, this movie really came and went, didn't it? No one talked about it after a week after its release.

[Shark_Blade]

I don't need to watch Liam Hemsworth taking a piss and taking a crap in front of aliens ever again.

If there's more sequel, count me out forever.