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aliena

06-08-2015, 05:30 PM

Since there are so many incarnations to the turtles, I was curious to see what other fans felt were their favorites. I'm sure this has been done before, but since I haven't seen or read everything, I'm hoping to find something new I maybe missed. You can include any incarnation, comics, movies, shows, even something off the beaten path. Here are mine...

Raphael (Who am I kidding, I love all the Raph incarnations)
4kids

Leonardo
Nick and 2007 tie

Donatello
2014 movie

Mikey
90 movie

Splinter
4kids

Shredder
Nick

April
IDW

Casey
90 Movie and IDW tied

Bebop and Rocksteady
Nick

Karai
Nick

Baxter
IDW

Powder

06-08-2015, 05:38 PM

I kinda wanna just say Mirage for everything, but I'll try to be a bit more fun than that.

Leo: First film
Donnie: Nick
Mikey: Image
Raph: Mirage
Splinter: Fred Wolf
Shredder: IDW/Nick
April: 4kids
Casey: First film
Rocksteady & Bebop: IDW
Karai: IDW
Baxter: IDW

Shark_Blade

06-08-2015, 05:40 PM

Raphael
2012 (disney princess raphael/ sassy)

Leonardo
2012 (best personality and a huge dork)

Donatello
2012 (he gets angry and loud outbursts unlike his other incarnations that acted like a doormat trodden by everyone else)

Mikey
1990 movie (best likeable Mikey ever)

Splinter
2012 (severe, strictest and tallest version)

Shredder
2012/1990/2014

April
OT/Megan Fox (feminist icons)

Casey
OT (the craziest Casey ever)

Bebop and Rocksteady
IDW

Karai
2012

Baxter fly
OT

Ninturtle

06-08-2015, 06:07 PM

April
OT/Megan Fox (feminist icons

How are they feminist icons?

Powder

06-08-2015, 06:20 PM

Because he's trolling.

If anything, OT April is a mascot for why chicks need feminism. The main female in that show was portrayed as a nosey know it all who couldn't really handle herself & needed the assistance of big muscley men every day. & Baypril had her body exploited, if nothing else. So that's not particularly helpful either.

But there we go taking the bait... :trolleye:

Shark_Blade

06-08-2015, 06:33 PM

How are they feminist icons?Because both are strong, independent women. Plus they are motivated by their career. Gotta get that news scoop of the century! :tcool:

A positive role model for female and a true inspiration to us all.

Even Forbes acknowledged TMNT 2014 as a feminist movie ;) : http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/12/16/why-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-is-one-of-the-most-feminist-films-of-2014/

Papenbrook

06-08-2015, 06:44 PM

Because both are strong, independent women. Plus they are motivated by their career. Gotta get that news scoop of the century! :tcool:

A positive role model for female and a true inspiration to us all.

Even Forbes acknowledged TMNT 2014 as a feminist movie ;) : http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/12/16/why-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-is-one-of-the-most-feminist-films-of-2014/

From your point of view, I can see why both the OT and Platinum Dunes April might be considered "feminist" to you. However, you have to understand that not everyone agrees with you.

Shark_Blade

06-08-2015, 06:51 PM

From your point of view, I can see why both the OT and Platinum Dunes April might be considered "feminist" to you. However, you have to understand that not everyone agrees with you.Who says everyone have to agree? Post your own list.

Autbot_Benz

06-08-2015, 06:55 PM

Raphael 2k3 and 90's movie and nick

Leonardo
Nick

Donatello
Nick & 2014 movie

Mikey
90 movie 2003 and nick
Splinter
Nick

Shredder
Nick

April
2k3 & Nick

Casey
90 Movie & Nick & 2k3

Bebop and Rocksteady
Nick

Karai
Nick

Baxter
Nick & 2k3

Ninturtle

06-08-2015, 07:10 PM

Because both are strong, independent women. Plus they are motivated by their career. Gotta get that news scoop of the century! :tcool:

A positive role model for female and a true inspiration to us all.

Even Forbes acknowledged TMNT 2014 as a feminist movie ;) : http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/12/16/why-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-is-one-of-the-most-feminist-films-of-2014/

Being strong and independent doesn't make you a feminist icon .

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

06-08-2015, 09:57 PM

IDW all the way, except for Mikey and Raphael.

Mikey: Mirage
Raphael: Image

Yabuturtle

06-09-2015, 07:27 AM

Leo: 1987
Donnie: 2012
Mikey: 1987
Raph: 2003
Splinter: First 90s Film
Shredder: First 90s Film
April: 2003
Casey: First 90s Film
Rocksteady & Bebop: 1987
Karai: 2003
Baxter: 1987

Ulisa

06-09-2015, 11:17 AM

Let's see....

Leonardo--1987 though 2k3 is close. I love OT Leo because while he plays the top student and eldest brother/leader well, he also knows when to lighten up and have a little fun.

Raphael--1990 Movie. I like both versions of Raph, the sarcastic and angry ones and I think Movie Raph combined them well. Angry Raph can come across as a bully (particularly in Nick IMO) and sarcastic Raph can be a bit lazy at points. I think Movie Raph has the best features of both.

Donatello--Geez, this one is hard but probably 2k3 Don with SOTO Don/OT Don tied in close second. I like SOTO Don's struggle with their origins; I really felt for the guy. OT Don had some vanity and superiority complex at times that made him interesting. But why 2k3 Don? Well, he's just so...nice! Seriously, I'd love to just sit and talk with this guy! His VA really knocks it out of the park here. I met the guy a few years ago and he is so involved with his fans. Gave me a couple of awesome photos during a panel.

Michelangelo--OT hands down followed by Movie 1990. THIS is Mikey to me--laid back, funny without being over bearing, caring, empathic, energetic. He's a good fighter but also intelligent and capable of saving his brothers just as often as they save him. I saw a bit of a confidence issue with him at times but that made him all the more intriguing.

Splinter--OT. I think 2k3 can be a bit too stern and comes across as unsupportive at times. Nick Splinter I just don't like his personality much at all. Movie Splinter us probably my second fav. I think OT Splinter is caring yet firm and while he doesn't get as involved, I always figured that meant he trusted his students could handle themselves. He still got involved when he had to.

April--OT oddly enough. I don't dislike any of the Aprils but I think OT made for a good sisterly figure/mother figure without having to learn martial arts. Personally, I found her to not be Lois Lane type material but rather someone devoted to forging her own life and career and being stubborn about it. I don't really like how other versions become this overly competent fighter. I think learning some self defense is fine but not to the extent of skill they take it.

Casey--1990 Movie. This is Casey Jones to me. Capable and funny but still able to form strong relationships. His friendship with the turtles and interest in April feels genuine.

Shredder--2k3. While OT Shredder is funny, 2k3 is threatening and a good adversary. I think his backstory is intriguing and making him an Utrom I found to be a neat twist. Though, I did wonder how a robotic suit was that good a fighter...

Baxter--About even between 2k3 and OT. 2k3 was intelligent and cunning, which makes for a great villain but there were still aspects of good, if small, in him. OT Baxter I just really feel for. Poor guy could not catch a break and when you see him in the first episodes, it is a reminder that he started out as just a poor inventor trying to get recognized.

plastroncafe

06-09-2015, 11:37 AM

Donatello - 2k3 cartoon
Leonardo - 2k7 movie
Michaelangelo - Mirage
Raphael - First LA Movie
April - Mirage, Volume 1.
Splinter - 2k7 movie/2k12 toon
Shredder - Mirage
Casey - First LA Movie

Icebot

06-09-2015, 01:13 PM

Mikey 2003
Donatello 2003
Raph 1987
Leonardo 1987
Shredder 2003
Splinter 1987
April 2003
Casey Jones 2012
Bebop and Rocksteady 1987
Karai 2012

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

06-09-2015, 01:17 PM

Reviewing everyone else's choices, I realized I oversimplified and didn't think it through:

Leo: Mirage
Don: IDW
Mikey: Mirage
Raph: Image
April: IDW
Casey: 1990
Splinter: IDW

Everyone else, definitely IDW...

jenna

06-09-2015, 01:33 PM

Leo-Nick (when he was Jason Biggs, but I'll now take 2k3 Leo over Seth Green's Leo)
Don-PD & 2k3 equally
Raph-2k7
Mikey-1990
Splinter-Nick
April-IDW

billbot85

06-09-2015, 02:18 PM

Leo - 1990 Movie
Raph - tie between 1990 Movie/Fred Wolf
Mike - Fred Wolf
Don - tie between Nick/Fred Wolf
April - 1990 Movie
Splinter - tie between Nick/Fred Wolf
Shredder - 1990 Movie
Casey Jones - 1990 Movie

This is just based on the TMNT series that I know the best. I'm hoping to delve more into the Mirage, 2k3, and IDW series and see if that changes my answers, haha.

Jephael

06-09-2015, 07:37 PM

Donatello, April O' Neil, Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter Stockman and Leatherhead - any version
Leonardo + Master Splinter - 4Kids Series and Archie Comics
Michelangelo - Fred Wolf Cartoon and New Line Movies
Raphael, Shredder + Krang - Fred Wolf Cartoon
Casey Jones - 4Kids Series
Vernon Fenwick - Michael Bay Film
Mondo Gecko, Man Ray, Wingnut and Screwloose - Archie Comics

ShelleyQuick

06-10-2015, 07:13 AM

Master Splinter-2012
Leonardo-2012, 2014
Raphael-2012, 2007
Donatello-2014
Michelangelo-2012
April-2012
Casey-1990
Shredder-2012, 1987
Karai-2007

ssjup81

06-13-2015, 01:31 PM

Let's see what I can come up with. I haven't read the IDW comics nor have I seen the 2k3 series or the recent film...

Leo: Nick

Donnie: Archie and Nick

Raph: A tie between Nick and OT.

Mikey: A tie between OT and movie 1.

Splinter: Archie, but I loathed his character design, and OT. I like him as the wise old sage type.

April: Movie 1...OT April coming in second. Least favorite is 2k7 April.

Casey: OT. Sorry, I just love the Clint Eastwood, mentally unstable, 'I want to smash things' OT Casey. He was hilarious. Seriously, though, I'd say movie 1 Casey, but OT Casey is tied with it.

Shredder: Now this is tough for me...I honestly don't favor any version of this character I've come across.

Baxter: OT. Didn't care for Mirage Baxter and just don't care much for Nick Baxter as he comes across as pathetic to me, unless he is indeed plotting behind Shredder's back. At least OT Baxter wanted revenge for what was done to him and tried his best to. I also felt bad for him.

aliena

06-17-2015, 08:09 AM

Mechapod

06-20-2015, 08:31 AM

Leonardo: Mirage

Donatello: 1987 and IDW

Raphael: 1990

Michelangelo: Mirage - just recently discovered the 2k3 cartoons and have been very impressed by Battle Nexus Champion Michelangelo.

Splinter: Mirage

April: IDW

Casey: IDW

Fugitoid: Mirage, tho IDW is doing a very good job with him as well.

Shredder: Mirage

Krang: Mirage but IDW as a villain; General Krang is very menacing.

I've not yet had a chance to read any of Image or vol. 4., and its been too long since I've read the Archie books.

Foombamaroom

06-20-2015, 09:10 AM

Leonardo - Nick: It's a well-balance of seriousness and humor. 4Kids is a close second.

Raphael - 4 Kids: Although I love all versions of Raph, this one takes the cake. Mirage is second, and 2014 is a close third.

Donatello - Tie between 2014 and 4kids. I actually really liked 2014 Donnie, despite him looking like a Ghostbuster. 4kids was also great.

Michelangelo - IDW hands down. It's the best balance of Mikey's softer side, humorous side, wild side, and serious side in my opinion.

Splinter - Nick. I just really like the brutality that this Splinter has, while being able to incorporate the wisdom.

Casey - 1990 movie, but the 4kids is a close second. I can't take 2012 Casey seriously, which is a huge problem. Thing is, Casey in the 4kids series was fun, despite being not as brutal as he was before.

April - 4kids. She had great chemistry with the Turtles/Casey. And I think we all know who the worst April is... *insert picture of Megan Fox here.* <-- funny thing is that Megan Fox's April is still more source-accurate than Nick's April.

Shredder - 2012. I LOVE this Shredder. He can take all 4 Turtles and the Mutanimals on at the same time, and that kind of solidifies just how badass he is.

Bebop and Rocksteady - IDW. I like this because they're actually a force to be reckoned with in the comics.

Karai - Nick. I don't think I need to explain why. She's had plenty of development.

Foombamaroom

06-20-2015, 09:11 AM

ssjup81

06-20-2015, 10:03 AM

Out of all those incarnations you've missed I wish you could read IDW the most. I know it's expensive to get them all, so it is harder to accomplish, but so worth it all the way. I wish I could lend you mine so you could lose your virginity on that series. ;)Actually, before moving back here, I'd planned to...but, like you said, hard to find now and expensive to import.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

06-20-2015, 10:48 AM

Out of all those incarnations you've missed I wish you could read IDW the most. I know it's expensive to get them all, so it is harder to accomplish, but so worth it all the way. I wish I could lend you mine so you could lose your virginity on that series. ;)

:tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

I love the way you put that. Now we're gonna have a "what was your first" thread for IDW. :tlol:

Mechapod

06-20-2015, 02:15 PM

Bro, Krang's not in Mirage. o.O

Well, not Krang himself but the Utrom race. Sorry, that was only clear in my head. :tsmile:

Bry

06-20-2015, 04:38 PM

Whoa, great topic!

Leonardo: 4Kids/2003 Series
Very close calls with the Mirage and Nick versions, but ultimately I thought the 2003 Leo had the best overall character journey. He was likeable, but flawed, and felt like a real teenager pushing himself to be his best - perhaps too hard at times. He dealt with a lot of struggle and loss but never, ever gave up. He was going to pull through or go out fighting. That's my ideal Leonardo. And I still think Michael Sinterniklaas had the best vocal quality for the character.

Donatello: IDW Comics
I really enjoy the darker, philosophical places the Mirage version went, and I feel like the 4Kids version was the most immediately likeable. But IDW has moved ahead a bit lately - his struggles with wrapping his head around reincarnation and magic were a nice touch (kind of a similar feel to his personal struggle in SoTO, if kind of the exact opposite situation), and he's really come into his own lately, even before... certain events. He's got that mentally isolated thing going on while still being very likeable, which is a great take on him.

Raphael: 1990 Movie
Raphael's characterization has probably been the most consistent of the four, aside from the Fred Wolf cartoon, and it's heavily steeped in that Mirage original. But I think the 1990 movie did it best - he's angry, isolated, bitter and sardonic, and you totally understand why. They captured his emotions very well and made me like Raph a lot more than I usually do. And Josh Pais gets some bonus points for establishing the Brooklyn accent.

Michelangelo: Mirage Comics
Mikey's always been my favourite of the four (though Leo is slowly usurping him the older I get) but unfortunately he gets portrayed as pretty one-note a lot of the time, and his "key traits" -- Spicolli stonerish-ness in '87, zaniness in 2003, stupidity in 2012 -- gets really irritating the longer it goes on. The 1990 movie had a nice balance there, with the "party dude" demeanour and some subtle character moments revealing he was deeper than he seemed, and the IDW version is totally loveable. But the Mirage version is easily the strongest version to me. He's the most light-hearted and "human" of the brothers, has a strong creative side, and has the most emotional depth, though it's often fairly subtle.

Splinter: 4Kids/Nick (tie)
I feel like Splinter's backstory, the Yoshi/Saki rivarly and the cycle of vengeance spinning out of it, is absolutely key, and I feel like the Mirage comics still did that best. But the Mirage character has always been a bit too distant and single-minded for me. The 4Kids and Nick versions get the heart of the character and the depth of his loss -- though I do prefer him as Yoshi's rat instead of being Yoshi himself, they both do a great job with their versions of the character. But I like that he's trained the Turtles so they can protect themselves (and to pass on his/Yoshi's tradition) instead of training them as assassins for his own vengeance. It humanizes him a lot, and his protective disciplinarian routine really hits hard in those series where his personal pain is given so much attention.

April: 1990 Movie
I definitely prefer April as a lab assistant/scientist overall, but Judith Hoag rocked that role. Driven/stubborn, principled, ambitious, tough, smart, funny, caring and vulnerable, this April is easily the best version of the character ever. She feels like a full, real person with a strong personality, and she leaves a much larger impression than most other versions did.

Casey: 1990 Movie
Elias Koteas is Casey Jones as far as I'm concerned. He nailed the attitude and made a smarmy, violent, ignorant jackass so effortlessly, instantly likeable. That's a hell of a feat. Never get tired of rewatching his scenes in that movie.

Shredder: IDW Comics
IDW takes it by a hair. The vengeance/rivalry stuff is handled quite well here (though I'm not a huge fan of the reincarnation angle, they make it work surprisingly well), and he's got such an intimidating presence and the gravitas to back it up. Probably the best costume the character's ever had, too. More actual focus on how his crime organization operates is another huge plus.
Mirage is a very close second, but oddly it's for the exact opposite reasons - the Shredder's defeat and absence, and the power vacuum he created, was the most interesting thing to happen in that series.

Karai: Mirage Comics
I think 4Kids, Nick and IDW have done some interesting things with their versions of the character, and I almost always find her pretty compelling. But the original Karai is a boss, not an underling. She's a grown woman running the show, not a teenage girl desperate for her father's approval. That's so much cooler, and the role she played in "City at War" was excellent and hasn't been topped yet, IMO.

Baxter: IDW Comics
4Kids comes close, but the IDW Baxter is just such a perfectly cunning, devious ***hole! He feels like the version with the most potential and is probably the most entertaining so far.

Bebop and Rocksteady: IDW Comics
I love the original versions as bumbling comic relief (and briefly as legitimate threats in the first season), but the IDW version strikes such a brilliant balance between them as dumb-but-loveable screw-ups and absolutely ruthless monsters. Their microseries issue made me love them, and.... what they did... in issue 44 made me hate them. And yet I can't wait to see them show up again.

Leatherhead: 4Kids/2003 Series
More consistent than the Mirage version and more interesting than the Nick version. Really nails the character as a gentle, intelligent giant struggling with a feral nature he can't entirely control, and I loved it when he and Donnie got to be Science Bros.

aliena

06-22-2015, 02:11 PM

:tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

I love the way you put that. Now we're gonna have a "what was your first" thread for IDW. :tlol:

That's how I sort of feel about something new in the TMNT world. Before you see it, people talk about how great it is and then you put the effort into watching/reading it for yourself and bam! You get what all the hype was about and then you can join in with those who have seen it before you.

BTW, my first with IDW was someone(can't recall who) on this board telling me About Leo going dark and I had to read it, so I sold some of my collectibles and bought them all up to the current issue that was out at the time. After that I never looked back.