Mona Lisa to appear? (sources inside)

[Bitsy83]

Sooooooo.........someone posted this link on Deviantart....

http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Reading/dp/0553522876

If you look closely, Raphael is wearing a space suit and facing off against some sort of Newt person. Maybe some connection to the Newtrailizer. Also, is it just me or does the Newt look a bit....feminine?

If this is how the producers are going to give us Mona Lisa, I'm not sure how I feel. On one hand, I'm glad it's not another "human-turned-mutant by freak accident plot." That arc helped for the new characters in season 2, but it's pretty much run it's course. On the other hand, I was sort of hoping she'd be a LIZARD who mutated into an anthropomorphic character, like the Turtles.

Having her be from another Dimension is clever and does give us a doorway to new opportunities, but...well, I guess I was hoping to see a cute iguana or water lizard girl. But she does look neat, whomever she is. I assume this is going to be based on an upcoming episode.

[TigerClaw]

Sooooooo.........someone posted this link on Deviantart....

http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Reading/dp/0553522876

If you look closely, Raphael is wearing a space suit and facing off against some sort of Newt person. Maybe some connection to the Newtrailizer. Also, is it just me or does the Newt look a bit....feminine?

If this is how the producers are going to give us Mona Lisa, I'm not sure how I feel. On one hand, I'm glad it's not another "human-turned-mutant by freak accident plot." That arc helped for the new characters in season 2, but it's pretty much run it's course. On the other hand, I was sort of hoping she'd be a LIZARD who mutated into an anthropomorphic character, like the Turtles.

Having her be from another Dimension is clever and does give us a doorway to new opportunities, but...well, I guess I was hoping to see a cute iguana or water lizard girl. But she does look neat, whomever she is. I assume this is going to be based on an upcoming episode.
I doubt it.

[Bitsy83]

I doubt it.

Dude, this looks pretty legit...

[TigerClaw]

Dude, this looks pretty legit...
Plus it looks like the creature is fighting Raph with some laser sword.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KJXjLAl0L.jpg

If anything, It'll be a thing where Mikey sees that lizard, and just ends up calling her Mona Lisa, Since he names all mutants he meets.

[Foombamaroom]

It looks female, yeah, but I doubt it's Mona Lisa.

[TigerClaw]

It looks female, yeah, but I doubt it's Mona Lisa.
Yeah, and the Nick series takes huge liberties on characters, Most mutants on the show are just in name only, and are nothing like the originals.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It looks female, yeah, but I doubt it's Mona Lisa.

Who knows, maybe Mikey nicknames her Mona Lisa.

[TigerClaw]

Who knows, maybe Mikey nicknames her Mona Lisa.
That's what I'm thinking, Mikey likes naming new mutants he comes into contact with.

[Bitsy83]

That's what I'm thinking, Mikey likes naming new mutants he comes into contact with.

I'm guessing he's still sore at Donnie for naming the Newtrailizer so he jumps at the chance to name her.

Also, if she's from the same dimension as the Newtrailizer, she doesn't speak English and probably has a translator. Maybe her name doesn't translate into English well and it sounds like she's saying "Mona Lisa" when she's just hissing or growling.

[Ninturtle]

Sooooooo.........someone posted this link on Deviantart....

http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Reading/dp/0553522876

If you look closely, Raphael is wearing a space suit and facing off against some sort of Newt person. Maybe some connection to the Newtrailizer. Also, is it just me or does the Newt look a bit....feminine?

If this is how the producers are going to give us Mona Lisa, I'm not sure how I feel. On one hand, I'm glad it's not another "human-turned-mutant by freak accident plot." That arc helped for the new characters in season 2, but it's pretty much run it's course. On the other hand, I was sort of hoping she'd be a LIZARD who mutated into an anthropomorphic character, like the Turtles.

Having her be from another Dimension is clever and does give us a doorway to new opportunities, but...well, I guess I was hoping to see a cute iguana or water lizard girl. But she does look neat, whomever she is. I assume this is going to be based on an upcoming episode.

I doubt that's Mona Lisa it's probably just a random Alien enemy.

[Autbot_Benz]

Its not Mona Lisa its a generic Space newt

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Why does everyone even keep calling her a newt or salamander? Mona Lisa was a lizard (which is a reptile- salamanders and newts are amphibians!) most likely an anole or other iguanid. She could also be a type of fence lizard, tree lizard, or a green or even ruin lizard, but anole is the most logical based on her body style and color.

[Meliwen]

Female? Looks like it.

Generic character? I hope not. I like that design, it would be cool to see it as a unique character.

Mona Lisa? Since it looks like an alien as opposed to a mutant, my initial guess would be no. Although obviously they could still make it Mona if they wanted, if only to use the name, since there's nothing stopping them from re-imagining the character. Especially since, as far as I'm aware, she only has one episode to her name. I just hope we'll see something about her/him at comic-con.

[victory_angel]

Why does everyone even keep calling her a newt or salamander? Mona Lisa was a lizard (which is a reptile- salamanders and newts are amphibians!) most likely an anole or other iguanid. She could also be a type of fence lizard, tree lizard, or a green or even ruin lizard, but anole is the most logical based on her body style and color.

Interestingly enough Mona Lisa was originally going to be a female mutant turtle. But Laird objected to the idea

[Papenbrook]

I don't mind if Mona Lisa shows up. As long as she is useful and not just for fanservice, I don't really care.

[BubblyShell22]

I think everyone is jumping to conclusions here. The alien looks female, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be Mona Lisa. Could just be some random alien they fight. After all, people thought that lizard chick in that film was a reference to her and that she was coming on the show when it was just a running gag.

[Amaranthus]

It's not a running gag if it's just a one time thing.

[Bitsy83]

I think everyone is jumping to conclusions here. The alien looks female, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be Mona Lisa. Could just be some random alien they fight. After all, people thought that lizard chick in that film was a reference to her and that she was coming on the show when it was just a running gag.

Yeah, this is mostly my fault. I just thought it'd give us something to talk about until August.

This may not be Mona Lisa, but it does seem like something big is coming for season 4. Maybe more dimensional travel, deeper exploration into Newtrailizer's backstory, or the possible appearance of Lord Dregg. Shredder's a great villain, but I think he's run his course. Even the OT Turtles had to bring in someone new after a few seasons.

As much as I like the show, even though it has some weak points, I am afraid it'll start to get boring and turn into another cash cow for Nick to milk dry. Look what happened to Spongebob. That show used to be so entertaining and fun, but now it's so annoying and poorly written it just isn't fun anymore. I'm worried the same thing will happen to TMNT.

[Amaranthus]

Yeah, this is mostly my fault. I just thought it'd give us something to talk about until August.

This may not be Mona Lisa, but it does seem like something big is coming for season 4. Maybe more dimensional travel, deeper exploration into Newtrailizer's backstory, or the possible appearance of Lord Dregg. Shredder's a great villain, but I think he's run his course. Even the OT Turtles had to bring in someone new after a few seasons.

As much as I like the show, even though it has some weak points, I am afraid it'll start to get boring and turn into another cash cow for Nick to milk dry. Look what happened to Spongebob. That show used to be so entertaining and fun, but now it's so annoying and poorly written it just isn't fun anymore. I'm worried the same thing will happen to TMNT.

The non-filler episodes are great, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
You really can't compare TMNT and Spongebob.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The non-filler episodes are great, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
You really can't compare TMNT and Spongebob.

You can if they're both owned by the same corporate entity.

[Amaranthus]

You can if they're both owned by the same corporate entity.

wow
such logic
amaze
http://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/doge.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

wow
such logic
amaze
http://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/doge.jpg

Yeah, your logic was pretty shite, bro... :trazz:

[Amaranthus]

Yeah, your logic was pretty shite, bro... :trazz:

Nope. You're saying TMNT will decline in quality just because they're both owned by Nickelodeon.
That's shite logic.

[Mew]

I like the Doge. The Doge is the Ultimate Life Form.

[Papenbrook]

I like the Doge. The Doge is the Ultimate Life Form.


I thought Shadow was the Ultimate Life Form.

[BubblyShell22]

It's okay, Bitsy. I can understand why you would think that mutant is Mona. But I think it will probably just be some random mutant they fight and may not see again. I know everyone wants Mona to show up, but you have to remember that it may not be the case.

[IndigoErth]

Making Mona an alien was something that crossed my mind a while ago, given Newtralizer's existence and somewhat similar kind of critter. Dunno if that cover pic really would say Mona Lisa to me, but no reason she can't be some other character involved in the same story somewhere along the way. Maybe she's a slightly different lizard race or a different faction who are the good guys with the Turtles. Or she defects from the ranks of the bad guys.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, very true. Many were speculating that she was affiliated with the Kraang or that she was April's mom, but having her be part of Newtralizer's race would definitely make sense.

[Papenbrook]

:o Wow, Bitsy. You were right!

[TigerClaw]

Its official, It's Mona Lisa and shes gonna appear on the show soon. She will be voiced by Zelda Williams.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJk6XnrUwAE1q9J.jpg

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10355794_10153505165982460_2015976773345808389_n.j pg?oh=0b7f6a3bb62b01a7dcbb418f4ef488a2&oe=5628AF03

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, so it's official! Awesome to hear and can't wait to hear Robin's daughter voicing her. I'm sure she'll do great.

[Powder]

I'm okay with it because her design isn't in any way furbaity. At least it's actual Mona fans being appeased rather than the ones who wanna nail scales.

[CyberCubed]

Kinda weird she's probably going to be an alien rather than a mutant. I agree that she's probably part of Newtralizers race.

[TigerClaw]

Kinda weird she's probably going to be an alien rather than a mutant. I agree that she's probably part of Newtralizers race.
And she will most likely get her name thanks to Mikey.

[Bitsy83]

:o Wow, Bitsy. You were right!

I KNOW, RIGHT?!?!?? I swear, I was strictly going on hopefully optimism! And now that we got a somewhat better look at her, she looks pretty promising. (And pretty).

AND ZELDA WILLIAMS?!?! You guys won't believe me, but I always felt that if Mona Lisa were to come into the show, she was one of my choices as VA! Either her or Christy Carlson Romano (Kim Possible), Cree Summer, or Jennifer Love Hewitt (....what? She's sweet.)

I'm actually glad she won't be a mutated human. Having her be an alien brings a whole new list of possibilities. Let's just hope she's not another one-shot like she was in the OT.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm okay with it because her design isn't in any way furbaity. At least it's actual Mona fans being appeased rather than the ones who wanna nail scales.

You could have phrased that any number of different ways.

But you went with the AWESOMEST choice. :tlol:

[Ninturtle]

Kinda weird she's probably going to be an alien rather than a mutant. I agree that she's probably part of Newtralizers race.

Brandon Confirmed this on a facebook post.

[IndigoErth]

Have to say I'm a little surprised it really is happening, wasn't sure they'd ever actually do it, but glad to see they decided to go ahead and pick up this character that is already known but entirely open for their own interpretation; would be foolish not to.

Plus maybe we'll get female character they might have better confidence that could do okay in the toy aisle. ;)

Now I'm hoping it will also be one that for once isn't used as a love interest. *fingers crossed*

And she will most likely get her name thanks to Mikey.
Hmm... Tough call, because surely she'd already have her own name, but the name we know is from a planet-Earth work of art... Maybe it's just Mona and Mikey adds the Lisa part? Or perhaps it's a new moniker if she's trying to avoid being detected. Or...her 'alien name' is just hard to pronounce.

[TigerClaw]

Have to say I'm a little surprised it really is happening, wasn't sure they'd ever actually do it, but glad to see they decided to go ahead and pick up this character that is already known but entirely open for their own interpretation; would be foolish not to.

Plus maybe we'll get female character they might have better confidence that could do okay in the toy aisle. ;)

Now I'm hoping it will also be one that for once isn't used as a love interest. *fingers crossed*


Hmm... Tough call, because surely she'd already have her own name, but the name we know is from a planet-Earth work of art... Maybe it's just Mona and Mikey adds the Lisa part? Or perhaps it's a new moniker if she's trying to avoid being detected. Or...her 'alien name' is just hard to pronounce.
It'll probably be something like, She introduces herself as Mona, And Mikey is like. "Mona? How about Mona Lisa?" And she will probably be like. "I'm ok with that."

[Bitsy83]

It'll probably be something like, She introduces herself as Mona, And Mikey is like. "Mona? How about Mona Lisa?" And she will probably be like. "I'm ok with that."

Well, if she's the same race as Neutralizer, then she'll probably have a translating option on her suit, but it only translates basic words. Remember the "RAKKA RAKKA RAKKA" thing? What if Mona Lisa's name doesn't translate into English. When she does, it sounds like Mona Lisa, only with a lot of clicking and hissing?

[syk_skillz]

Here a list of other new mutants/aliens that will also appear
http://comicbook.com/2015/07/10/david-tennant-peter-stormare-michael-dorn-to-guest-star-on-teena/#Image6

I'm glad Armaggon finally will make his animated Debut unless I forgot about him in in the original cartoon which I doubt.

[TigerClaw]

Here a list of other new mutants/aliens that will also appear
http://comicbook.com/2015/07/10/david-tennant-peter-stormare-michael-dorn-to-guest-star-on-teena/#Image6

I'm glad Armaggon finally will make his animated Debut unless I forgot about him in in the original cartoon which I doubt.
Armaggon never appeared on the original series, only the Archie series comic.

Armaggon came from the future, with Renet appearing on the show soon, I would'nt be surprise if the Turtles travel to the future, and they encounter Armaggon.

[syk_skillz]

Yea I remember the comic as a kid. I bought it at a Mr B's grocery store since they sold a few comics there I would buy when I got the chance as a kid. Mostly TMNT, X-Men and Spider-man. I also remember him being in one of the Tournament Fighter game

[TigerClaw]

Here's a high quality image of the Mona Lisa concept art, The image is too big.

http://i.imgur.com/5gDrKvF.jpg

[IndigoErth]

Here's a high quality image of the Mona Lisa concept art, The image is too big.

http://i.imgur.com/5gDrKvF.jpg
Awesome, thanks, was hoping a bigger one would turn up.

Props to them for going a more natural amphibian look - and not sticking hair on her.

[Amaranthus]

She's totally going to be Raph's love-interest.

[Huzzah]

I'm mostly glad they went with giving get minor feminine characteristics (narrow waist, feminine facial features), without resorting to adding breasts and hair. Kudos to them, I think that this is one of the best ways of introducing her into the show, and allowing for multiple episodes, assuming the space arc is more than one episode. Hopefully we'll see a figure, preferably in the space suit, with some of those weapons shown.

[BubblyShell22]

I doubt she'll be a one shot character and will more than likely have more appearances. As for her being Raph's love interest, I don't know. It could happen but I'd rather it not happen right away.

[Huzzah]

I'm good with no love interest, in fact I wish they'd just do away with them in general. Besides Raph is into furries (see Ninjara and Mezcaal, and potentially Alopex).

Seriously though, I would love to have female characters not be relegated to love interests.

[lonewarrior20]

i get the funny feeling that if they do have a relationship its gonna start out like han solo and leia. remember raphael does have quite a big ego.

[TigerClaw]

i get the funny feeling that if the do have a relationship its gonna start out like han solo and leia. remember raphael does have quite a big ego.
What I could see happening is, Mikey teasing Raph about Mona Lisa being his girlfriend, Kind of like how he did with Donnie with April.

[Amaranthus]

What I could see happening is, Mikey teasing Raph about Mona Lisa being his girlfriend, Kind of like how he did with Donnie with April.

That's the third time you've said that.
We get it.

[srmff]

That's the third time you've said that.
We get it.

I was thinking that myself. It was getting annoying reading the same point again and again. :roll:

On a serious note, I'm very pleased with Mona's design. They've proven themselves to handle female mutant designs well. They didn't give hair, breasts or long lashes to Karai either. There are subtle details in the design that makes someone think that the mutant's female rather than male. When the design was first seen on the book cover, people already suspected that it would be a female mutant/alien. I'm glad they've changed her from her original appearance in the original cartoon.

I've been impressed with all of these character reveals. I've been waiting in anticipation for the triceratons and Fugitoid. I didn't really enjoy the arc that much in the 2003 version but for some reason I'm really looking forward to their appearance on the show. I don't remember Lorg Dregg from the original cartoon but his design looks really impressive and promising. I'm really excited for season 4 to start. Like Cubed, I wish that we got an image of Renet that wasn't just concept art. We've been waiting for Turtles in Time for so long now.

[NinjaPug]

That's the third time you've said that.
We get it.

I wonder if he thinks Mikey will give Mona Lisa her name

[TigerClaw]

I wonder if he thinks Mikey will give Mona Lisa her name
That is what I am thinking, She's an alien lizard with probably some alien type of name, and Mikey just names her Mona Lisa.

[TurtleTitan97]

That is what I am thinking, She's an alien lizard with probably some alien type of name, and Mikey just names her Mona Lisa.

Congratulations on missing the point. :trolleye:

[Groverman62]

Welcome back Mona! Hopefully you wont be Gilbert Gottfried in disguise

[TigerClaw]

I really hope this Mona Lisa isn't just for one episode, But rather, a whole season since the Turtles will be in Space.

[BubblyShell22]

I doubt she'll be a one shot villain. Many of us thought that with Newtralizer but he came back for another episode, so it's likely Mona won't be just for one episode, especially with how fans really like her and have wanted to see her for a long time.

[TigerClaw]

I doubt she'll be a one shot villain. Many of us thought that with Newtralizer but he came back for another episode, so it's likely Mona won't be just for one episode, especially with how fans really like her and have wanted to see her for a long time.
I don't think she will be a villain, but help the Turtles while they are out in space, I can see her being there guide to all the cosmic stuff.

[Bitsy83]

I was thinking that myself. It was getting annoying reading the same point again and again. :roll:

On a serious note, I'm very pleased with Mona's design. They've proven themselves to handle female mutant designs well. They didn't give hair, breasts or long lashes to Karai either. There are subtle details in the design that makes someone think that the mutant's female rather than male. When the design was first seen on the book cover, people already suspected that it would be a female mutant/alien. I'm glad they've changed her from her original appearance in the original cartoon.

I've been impressed with all of these character reveals. I've been waiting in anticipation for the triceratons and Fugitoid. I didn't really enjoy the arc that much in the 2003 version but for some reason I'm really looking forward to their appearance on the show. I don't remember Lorg Dregg from the original cartoon but his design looks really impressive and promising. I'm really excited for season 4 to start. Like Cubed, I wish that we got an image of Renet that wasn't just concept art. We've been waiting for Turtles in Time for so long now.

I know what you mean about the "Feminine touches" most animators like to use. I guess the ponytail never bothered me as a kid because...well, I was a product of the 80s. Telling males and females apart was like apples and oranges: It was pretty obvious. (Though I still think the Misfits from Jem looked like drag queens). Not only did they make it obvious she was female, they still managed to make her look pretty without giving her the "hot girl" treatment. They made her build a bit slimmer and gave her a cute profile so she still looks like something that could scare humans in this universe, but still very appealing. I can't wait to see her in action.

Though, I must confess...I was sort of hoping to see the pink scarf again. I thought it was cute and would've been a nice callback to the 80s. But having her in the show again would still be a nice callback.

Hey, if she is a minor character, do you think she'll be added to the intro? Think about it: They could put her in that last shot where we see the Turtles flip and run past Casey and she could appear on top of the building right above Casey. There'd be a quick shot of her silhouette and sword, looking up a the roof the Turtles make their final appearance on. Just a thought...

[IndigoErth]

I'm good with no love interest, in fact I wish they'd just do away with them in general. Besides Raph is into furries (see Ninjara and Mezcaal, and potentially Alopex).

Seriously though, I would love to have female characters not be relegated to love interests.
Likes them soft, fluffy women. :tlol: And likewise, would be major points if they at the very least spare this one from the love interest fate.



Look forward to seeing if they make a decent figure. From the design alone I kinda already want one, provided Playmates doesn't go cheapskate on it.


Edit: Actually, if they did ever give Raph a special someone, if not Mona and if they go a similar route other versions have... maybe a return to the farm house at some point and some mutant fox turns up who's been hiding out in the woods; unknowingly mutated back in early season 3.

[BubblyShell22]

TC, I agree that she may not be a villain, but I thought maybe they'd think she was and then she turns out to be good.

Indigo, I think having Mona as Raph's love interest would be fine as long as they don't do it too quickly. I can see Raph being the type to try to resist his allure for Mona after knowing how that affected Donnie with April and him not wanting to be like that, but eventually it turns out differently. Some slow progression like that would be perfect.

[CowabungaMikey]

I can't wait to see Mona Lisa in the show. And Zelda Williams is perfect for the role.

[Meliwen]

I'd be very surprised if Mona wasn't his love interest. Personally I'm actually looking forward to it, so long as she has something more than just that. She needs her own clear goal separate from the romance angle.

I like the idea of it being like Hans Solo and Princess Leia, a relationship that slowly builds and strays away from the love at first sight thing we've gotten with the other three. Which would also allow Mona to be her own character before they actually start introducing the romance.

[Mew]

How fantastical.
http://dabuttonfactory.com/button.png?t=Mona+Lisa&f=Roboto&ts=24&tc=fff&hp=24&vp=12&c=4&bgt=unicolored&bgc=000&bs=2&bc=fff
Click It

[Refractive Reflections]

Mona Lisa seemed just too fan-popular for the Nick show not to pursue it.

...As I mentioned back in October:

As for Renet being a potential love interest for Mikey, meh... it seemed overdue considering how inclined the show is toward forming, and especially reinforcing, their romantic crushes. With Mikey, Leo, and Donnie all having their crushes, it seems like only a matter of time now before Mona Lisa or Ninjara shows up for Raph. Considering the sizable following of those two (Mona Lisa and Ninjara), I'm sure somewhere at Nick, someone is advocating for their inclusion into the Nick show to boost sales and/or popularity of the franchise in its current state.

As for her becoming a love interest for Raph, I won't be surprised if does happen anyways. What will surprise me, is if the show avoids the whole crush/romantic aspect of, or toward, her character altogether.

[TigerClaw]

I'd be very surprised if Mona wasn't his love interest. Personally I'm actually looking forward to it, so long as she has something more than just that. She needs her own clear goal separate from the romance angle.

I like the idea of it being like Hans Solo and Princess Leia, a relationship that slowly builds and strays away from the love at first sight thing we've gotten with the other three. Which would also allow Mona to be her own character before they actually start introducing the romance.
I watched the video from the Panel and they confirmed that Mona Lisa will be Raph's love interest on the show, So it's happening, So far all the Turtles have love interests, Donnie with April, Leo with Karai, Raph with Mona Lisa, And soon, Mikey with Renet.

[Mona_Lisa]

You really can't compare TMNT and Spongebob.

And thank God for that!!!!

Yep, so it's official! Awesome to hear and can't wait to hear Robin's daughter voicing her. I'm sure she'll do great.
Yeah I am very excited, and am happy Robins daughter is doing the voice. Not that I know a thing about her acting, or voice skills but I liked her dad.lol.

I watched the video from the Panel and they confirmed that Mona Lisa will be Raph's love interest on the show, So it's happening, So far all the Turtles have love interests, Donnie with April, Leo with Karai, Raph with Mona Lisa, And soon, Mikey with Renet.

Yes! I was ok with her not being a love interest but I was not ok with her being someone else's love interest....

I am not crazy over the design. I liked her hair in the 80s, and since in the ot she was human first it never seemed stange or anything. But I hated Karai's design at first and now I totally love her "Human" design. So I will give it a shot.
Just glad I already got my User name before the other Mona Lisa fans could get it!!!!

[TigerClaw]

And thank God for that!!!!


Yeah I am very excited, and am happy Robins daughter is doing the voice. Not that I know a thing about her acting, or voice skills but I liked her dad.lol.



Yes! I was ok with her not being a love interest but I was not ok with her being someone else's love interest....

I am not crazy over the design. I liked her hair in the 80s, and since in the ot she was human first it never seemed stange or anything. But I hated Karai's design at first and now I totally love her "Human" design. So I will give it a shot.
Just glad I already got my User name before the other Mona Lisa fans could get it!!!!
And I'm glad I had this User name way way way before a mutant was named TigerClaw on the show. :)

As for Mona Lisa's new design and origin, Shes a Salamandrian Warrior, which is basically the same alien race as the Newtralizer.

http://i.imgur.com/5gDrKvF.jpg

[plastroncafe]

I'd say the best way to hear Zelda Williams' voice would be to find a clip of her work on Legend of Korra as Kuvira, but all of the Youtube clips I can find of her character are slightly sped up.

She has a wonderful, and very distinct, voice.
Can't wait.

(and my crowing will only get louder should 'Lisa have a conversation with April about something that isn't the turtles.)

[Jester]

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Come on Cubed, don't be an idiot.

[TigerClaw]

I'd say the best way to hear Zelda Williams' voice would be to find a clip of her work on Legend of Korra as Kuvira, but all of the Youtube clips I can find of her character are slightly sped up.

She has a wonderful, and very distinct, voice.
Can't wait.

(and my crowing will only get louder should 'Lisa have a conversation with April about something that isn't the turtles.)
I doubt April is going to space with the Turtles and then meeting Mona Lisa. Unless she comes to earth to meet them, and sees her there.

[TLP]

She's....pretty freaking cute to be honest. :o

[lonewarrior20]

I doubt April is going to space with the Turtles and then meeting Mona Lisa. Unless she comes to earth to meet them, and sees her there.

well given how those knuckleheads tend to drive stuff, i bet you they crash land mona's ship on earth and now she's stranded. i can already see it now, when trying to go up onto the streets she puts on a wig for part of a disguise.

[Ravenshell]

And I'm glad I had this User name way way way before a mutant was named TigerClaw on the show. :)

As for Mona Lisa's new design and origin, Shes a Salamandrian Warrior, which is basically the same alien race as the Newtralizer.

http://i.imgur.com/5gDrKvF.jpg

Wait a minute, wait a minute... Are they the Newt-trinos??

[TigerClaw]

So there's already fan art for the new Mona Lisa. This one is pretty good.
http://bakameganekko.deviantart.com/art/Mona-Lisa-546319977

http://img12.deviantart.net/6067/i/2015/195/3/b/mona_lisa_by_bakameganekko-d919j6x.png

[aliena]

I was really hoping she would be a lizard or a furry, but this version is cute. Is that a suit she is wearing or armor? If it's a suit, she could have more female features when not wearing the suit.

I remember seeing Renet without all her garb on and I didn't even recognize her for a few moments there, so that could make a big difference in how Mona looks.

As for Mona being Raph's love interest, I'm actually curious how he will deal with that. Hopefully it will be the slow burn like Leo sort of had.

[Powder]

I was really hoping she would be a lizard or a furry

2bad4u

:tlol:

[plastroncafe]

I was really hoping she would be a lizard or a furry, but this version is cute. Is that a suit she is wearing or armor? If it's a suit, she could have more female features when not wearing the suit.


I hope not. No boobs, no eyelashes, no lipstick.
Just...a lizard with Zelda Williams' voice.
Heck, it'd be great if she were larger than the guys, because in some species the females are larger than the males.

[FullMoon]

Am I the only one who finds this love thing between Raph and Mona Lisa unappropriate? Who finds Mona Lisa herself disgusting?
Really, Raph is some kind of a pervert now to fall for such a strange creature?
I mean, turtles seem to love human girls. Because they are very anthropomorphic, more humans then turtles actually. And now appears this Neutralizer in a helmet, and it's supposed to be attrective to Raph as a girl?
Judging by the silence after Brandon's words about her and Raph, more people feel the same.

[Mona_Lisa]

Am I the only one who finds this love thing between Raph and Mona Lisa unappropriate? Who finds Mona Lisa herself disgusting?
Really, Raph is some kind of a pervert now to fall for such a strange creature?
I mean, turtles seem to love human girls. Because they are very anthropomorphic, more humans then turtles actually. And now appears this Neutralizer in a helmet, and it's supposed to be attrective to Raph as a girl?
Judging by the silence after Brandon's words about her and Raph, more people feel the same.

I think most people here will disagree with you about the relationship being inappropriate, but you are entitled to your own opinion. There are quite a few people around here however that dislike Mona Lisa because the female characters are all love interests and they didn't want another romance. :tlol:

You will also find many who despise the turtles having romantic relationships with human girls... Me? I don't really care as long as the plot is good. Welcome to the form!

[Ravenshell]

I hope not. No boobs, no eyelashes, no lipstick.
Just...a lizard with Zelda Williams' voice.
Heck, it'd be great if she were larger than the guys, because in some species the females are larger than the males.

*lol* That would be great! But judging from the pic of her and Raph from a while back, she's probably average character height.

Am I the only one who finds this love thing between Raph and Mona Lisa unappropriate? Who finds Mona Lisa herself disgusting?
Really, Raph is some kind of a pervert now to fall for such a strange creature?
I mean, turtles seem to love human girls. Because they are very anthropomorphic, more humans then turtles actually. And now appears this Neutralizer in a helmet, and it's supposed to be attrective to Raph as a girl?
Judging by the silence after Brandon's words about her and Raph, more people feel the same.

Because he's got so many choices romantically, you know... And MAYBE Raph isn't so shallow as to go by looks alone, like some people in their first post here. *glare* Plus, he might fall for her because she's an excellent fighter, or appeals to him as a good conversationalist, or somoene who he can relate to. OR, she's sweet on him, and he doesn't return her advances.

Plus, extra-dimensional love affair... talk about your long-distance relationships... that can't possibly go well.

[pennydreadful]

Am I the only one who finds this love thing between Raph and Mona Lisa unappropriate? Who finds Mona Lisa herself disgusting?
Really, Raph is some kind of a pervert now to fall for such a strange creature?
I mean, turtles seem to love human girls. Because they are very anthropomorphic, more humans then turtles actually. And now appears this Neutralizer in a helmet, and it's supposed to be attrective to Raph as a girl?
Judging by the silence after Brandon's words about her and Raph, more people feel the same.

What's strange about an anthropomorphic lizard having a relationship with an anthropomorphic turtle?

TBH, I'm sick of this show introducing female characters just to be love interests for the guys, but regardless, no, I don't find Mona Lisa disgusting and I'm glad they haven't given her breasts or hair or eyelashes or any other feminized nonsense to show that "she is teh girl". Raph is a non-human and there's absolutely nothing to say that he has the same beauty standards as humans do. How is it perverted for a mutated turtle to love a female from another species, but it's ok if the other species just happens to be human?

As far as being more human than turtle - I don't know many humans with shells, plastrons, green skin, three-toed feet, three-fingered hands. Maybe I've just been hanging out with the wrong crowd though.

[TigerClaw]

With Mona Lisa coming back, I'm glad that all 4 Turtles have female companions, And there's nothing wrong with that.

[FullMoon]

By saying Mona Lisa is disgusting I didn't mean boobs or lashes. She just looks too Neutralizer-like.
In my opinion turtles are more humans than animals. Why? Big list of reasons, but the strongest is their ability to fall in love. Mona Lisa is just big and standing on her two. That's all she's got from human.

Since three of them (including Mikey and Renet) like human girls, it was expected Raph to do the same.

I'm not a hater though, no need to be rude and call me shallow. We're here to share our opinions, no?

[Powder]

There is love in nature, you know. It's not inherently human. The TMNT may be like people behaviorally, but I think their instincts are very much animal-like. The other turtles had only been exposed to human females, had they met a mutant of the opposite sex, they may very well have had feelings for her, as the case is to be with Raphael.

[BabyTurtles]

By saying Mona Lisa is disgusting I didn't mean boobs or lashes. She just looks too Neutralizer-like.
In my opinion turtles are more humans than animals. Why? Big list of reasons, but the strongest is their ability to fall in love. Mona Lisa is just big and standing on her two. That's all she's got from human.

Since three of them (including Mikey and Renet) like human girls, it was expected Raph to do the same.

I'm not a hater though, no need to be rude and call me shallow. We're here to share our opinions, no?

Newtralizer was able to communicate with Spike and everything....I'm sure Mono Lisa, since she is from the same alien race will be able to communicate with the turtles just fine. (she is the same alien right?)

hope she won't do that Racka Racka thing though....that was annoying.

even so...I still wish they didn't introduce another girl....just for her to end up being a love interest....at least Raph is the last turtle....now if they introduce another girl she won't be a crush!.....if they introduce another girl.

[Bitsy83]

GAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! :tgrumble::tgrumble::tgrumble: I am getting SO sick of people complaining about the "Love interest" thing. I know this show doesn't do that good of a job portraying romance, but maybe we'll be getting some new writers for this season and maybe they can handle it better than the Apritello/Leorai thing.

Allow me to explain. I know people feel romance and love interests ruin female characters, but that doesn't mean it's always a bad thing. It also doesn't mean that it's their sole purpose. Yes, April is the object of Donnie's affections, but there were plenty of times where that wasn't addressed all that much. There were times when she had to fight on her own or dealt with the loss of her father or her powers. People just choose of focus on her and Donnie because that makes for an easier target for people to complain about. Same goes for Karai: She wasn't just Leo's crush, but the whole tie in with Shredder and Splinter and her mother. I think people are making the "love interests" bigger than it really is. Yeah, I can see how you'd get annoyed, but I don't whine about it as much as you do and just overlook it.

As for Mona Lisa, I'm glad they're going to give her a relationship with Raph. Remember THIS thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51804

Remember how we always complained how Raph wasn't getting much attention and focus and how they rehashed his "Temper plot line" too much? Or how his character wasn't developing fast enough? Has it occurred to anyone that maybe falling in love with someone might HELP with that character development?!?! Romance and love has been a staple for characters for centuries! "Romeo & Juliet", "Pride & Prejudice," even "Count of Monte Cristo" and "Phantom of the Opera" (remember, that was a book before a play). Romance can lead to tons of drama and character development. Sometimes, it's necessary!

If they do Mona Lisa right, I can see her being the sort of calm for Raph's storm. They don't have to make out every five seconds, but it can show another side of him. And I have a feeling she'll be in the show quite a bit. I have this head cannon that she joins the Turtles and the Fugitoid on their journey in space. This would also be a nice tie in to Doctor Who since the Doctor always had a companion (preferably a female companion) that helped him with lots of problems and situations (Donna Noble is probably the best example of this).

As for her looking "too ugly to be Raph's girlfriend," I felt the same about Karai when I first saw that promo pic in Entertainment Weekly or whatever it was from. She was facing against Leo and the other three were in the back. Her face looked like one of those Monkeys from "Planet of the Apes" and I'm not the only one who thought that. Once we saw her in action, I thought she looked really good. The pics we have of her aren't that clear and the concept art wasn't in CGI, so it's hard to use that as a ref. Maybe when she's fully animated and functional, we can see her be more appealing of a character.

It'll also be a good way to show beauty without the superficial "necessities", like hair, makeup, and a good bust. I thought she looked cute, so I'm excited to see her in action.

I apologize for sounding like a whiner or even a troll, but if you guys can post what you think of her and other love interests, then so can I. Sure, I'll get contradicted with every sentence I posted, but I don't care. I'm super excited about season 4 and I have a good feeling Mona Lisa will be way more than a "Mary Sue." And if she is, hey, at least we brought back my favorite character.

[yellowmario27]

i hope the ~crush~ gradually develops...like not love at first sight thing Donnie and Mikey (probably, judging by the heart eyes) have.

i can't remember if Leo was like that too.

[Bitsy83]

i hope the ~crush~ gradually develops...like not love at first sight thing Donnie and Mikey (probably, judging by the heart eyes) have.

i can't remember if Leo was like that too.

He SORT of was. When he first meets Karai and she removes her visor, we get a closeup on his face of him and he looks like "Wow. She is REALLY pretty." Then she tries to kill him and it kinda killed the mood.

[TigerClaw]

He SORT of was. When he first meets Karai and she removes her visor, we get a closeup on his face of him and he looks like "Wow. She is REALLY pretty." Then she tries to kill him and it kinda killed the mood.
And Karai called Leo cute, As they were fighting.

[Splinter the boss]

I hate to interupt the discussion, but I think I have an idea. We all now know that Mona lisa will make her appearance in the show, and we know that the Newtralizer might come back, because he came back surging with Energy in the "Newtralized" episode. Well, what if the Newtralizer really comes back with Mona lisa as a new partner ? After all, they are of the same race.

I know Mona lisa might not be evil. So, that is why I am saying she might turn on the Newtralizer.

[JakeSully]

Hey man i dig Mona myself since i was a kid and she is one of the reasons i became a furry.

But i wonder who should voice her?

[Splinter the boss]

That is good to know. So what do you think of my prediction ? Do you think the creators could go with it ?

[Bitsy83]

Hey man i dig Mona myself since i was a kid and she is one of the reasons i became a furry.

But i wonder who should voice her?

She already has a voice actor: Zelda Williams. They announced this at this year's Comic Con.

[Amaranthus]

Hey man i dig Mona myself since i was a kid and she is one of the reasons i became a furry.


https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0083/11/1401905637856.png

[Powder]

Hey man i dig Mona myself since i was a kid and she is one of the reasons i became a furry.

But i wonder who should voice her?

http://i59.tinypic.com/9rlikh.gif

[Autbot_Benz]

Hey man i dig Mona myself since i was a kid and she is one of the reasons i became a furry.

But i wonder who should voice her?

Zelda Williams is voicing her

http://i61.tinypic.com/ju9vf9.jpg

[Splinter the boss]

Zelda Williams is voicing her

http://i61.tinypic.com/ju9vf9.jpg

I know what you meant, and I am saying that it's good to know.

[NoName999]

No

More

ROMANCE!

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp2vfdGhus1qlfxvso1_500.jpg

[Splinter the boss]

Does anybody have anything to say about my prediction ?

[TigerClaw]

I bet the relationship between the two would be Mona Lisa flirting with him, Or the other way around.

[Powder]

So what do you think of my prediction ? Do you think the creators could go with it ?

Does anybody have anything to say about my prediction ?

http://i58.tinypic.com/mbic1s.gif

[Ravenshell]

Thing with a Raph-Mona relationship is, I don't see it carrying on more than episodically past the space arc (unless, of course, Turtles In Space is the whole season, or something... doubtful). What would she even be doing on Earth? For Raph to fall for her so hard he'd bring her home as a mate, for instance, would be way too far, way too fast for this show.

[yellowmario27]

I hate to interupt the discussion, but I think I have an idea. We all now know that Mona lisa will make her appearance in the show, and we know that the Newtralizer might come back, because he came back surging with Energy in the "Newtralized" episode. Well, what if the Newtralizer really comes back with Mona lisa as a new partner ? After all, they are of the same race.

I know Mona lisa might not be evil. So, that is why I am saying she might turn on the Newtralizer.

sounds plausible~ they do look similar so it could work

[Amaranthus]

Does anybody have anything to say about my prediction ?

Mfw seeing your prediction.
http://www.sheawong.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/The-office-NOOOOOOOOO-gif.gif

[BubblyShell22]

If there is a romance, I can't see Raph falling for her so fast. Remember how he acted about Donnie and April? Raph seems more cynical about any of them finding love, so it seems to me that he won't be the type to go all head over heels in love with her like Donnie did with April. For him, he'll probably reject her or act like he doesn't care about her and deny it even though his brothers tease him. Then, somewhere down the line, he'll realize he does care for her and that's the way it'll be.

[TigerClaw]

If there is a romance, I can't see Raph falling for her so fast. Remember how he acted about Donnie and April? Raph seems more cynical about any of them finding love, so it seems to me that he won't be the type to go all head over heels in love with her like Donnie did with April. For him, he'll probably reject her or act like he doesn't care about her and deny it even though his brothers tease him. Then, somewhere down the line, he'll realize he does care for her and that's the way it'll be.
That's cause Raph thinks it wouldn't work cause shes human, and donnie is a reptile, This Mona Lisa on the other hand is full reptile, perhaps he will see something in her, or the other way around. Maybe Raph think she is cute, Just like how Raph told Mona Lisa in the original series, That she's kind of cute.

[Ravenshell]

That's cause Raph thinks it wouldn't work cause shes human, and donnie is a reptile, This Mona Lisa on the other hand is full reptile, perhaps he will see something in her, or the other way around. Maybe Raph think she is cute, Just like how Raph told Mona Lisa in the original series, That she's kind of cute.

Pinning it down to just being a reptile might be going a little far... more like Raph assumes April wasn't going to want to be with Don because as far as humans are concerned, they're freaky monster things. She does seem to be that much more receptive upon finding out she's a mutant too.

[JakeSully]

https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0083/11/1401905637856.png

http://i59.tinypic.com/9rlikh.gif

On furries, how come you 2 don't look down on other fandoms like Otakus, Trekkies, Star Wars fans, Whovians (Dr Who fans) etc.? and do you think furries are pretty much similar to those fandoms?

Face it, TMNT is popular among the furry fandom. I am a proud furry myself and a proud brony as well, i'm also an Otaku, a Star Wars fan, a semi-trekkie, Whovian and whatever in fandom.

[Amaranthus]

On furries, how come you 2 don't look down on other fandoms like Otakus, Trekkies, Star Wars fans, Whovians (Dr Who fans) etc.? and do you think furries are pretty much similar to those fandoms?

Face it, TMNT is popular among the furry fandom. I am a proud furry myself and a proud brony as well, i'm also an Otaku, a Star Wars fan, a semi-trekkie, Whovian and whatever in fandom.

How is jacking off to anthropomorphic animals similar to liking something like Star Wars?

That's cause Raph thinks it wouldn't work cause shes human, and donnie is a reptile, This Mona Lisa on the other hand is full reptile, perhaps he will see something in her, or the other way around. Maybe Raph think she is cute, Just like how Raph told Mona Lisa in the original series, That she's kind of cute.

Mona is a newt. Newts aren't reptiles.
Get educated.

[JakeSully]

How is jacking off to anthropomorphic animals similar to liking something like Star Wars?



Mona is a newt. Newts aren't reptiles.
Get educated.

Well anime fans jack off to some characters even hentai if you know what hentai is, some Star Wars fans jack off to the hot alien chicks in SW same for Trekkies and all that. All fandoms have sexual fetishes you know.

And what do you think of demon tentacle porn?

[Amaranthus]

Well anime fans jack off to some characters even hentai if you know what hentai is, some Star Wars fans jack off to the hot alien chicks in SW same for Trekkies and all that. All fandoms have sexual fetishes you know.

And what do you think of demon tentacle porn?

All fandoms inherently poison everything they touch and f*ck anyone who openly considers themselves a part of one.
A wise man on another forum said this and he's right.
Now please f*ck off and stop PM'ing me.

[JakeSully]

All fandoms inherently poison everything they touch and f*ck anyone who openly considers themselves a part of one.
A wise man on another forum said this and he's right.
Now please f*ck off and stop PM'ing me.

That's fine with me.

[Amaranthus]

That's fine with me.

Are you sure? Because I've already told you not to PM me once when you were spazzing out about comic book movies.

[JakeSully]

Are you sure? Because I've already told you not to PM me once when you were spazzing out about comic book movies.

About f*king someone from a fandom is fine with me whether it's a furry, a pega-sister, a female Star Wars fan, a female trekkie or Otaku etc. that i want.

You know what Otakus are right?

[Amaranthus]

About f*king someone from a fandom is fine with me whether it's a furry, a pega-sister, a female Star Wars fan, a female trekkie or Otaku etc. that i want.

You know what Otakus are right?

I don't give a single f*ck about all those stupid fandoms you keep mentioning. Stop derailing every thread you post in.
http://eduncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/its-time-to-stop-posting.jpg

[BubblyShell22]

Jake, if you're into Mona Lisa, that would make you a scaly, not a furry since she's a reptile.

[plastroncafe]

Newts are amphibians.

[Bitsy83]

*slams hand on table* SO!!! To get back on track here...

I saw that the "Alien Attack" book is available to order through Amazon and B&N. I work near a B&N, so I might swing by there and see if the book is available to buy. (I don't want to order it since I have a separate Amazon account for my Kindle to use as comic book money). Maybe we can get some better shots of Mona Lisa before season 4.

BTW, does anyone know how to properly edit pictures you post on threads? I keep trying, but they always come out so big.

[Meliwen]

Does this book and the others like it follow episodes from the show and put them in a easy to read format for younger kids, or are they new, separate stories? Because aside from more pictures of Mona, I'm wondering if the story itself could be somewhat spoilery.

[Mona_Lisa]

Does this book and the others like it follow episodes from the show and put them in a easy to read format for younger kids, or are they new, separate stories? Because aside from more pictures of Mona, I'm wondering if the story itself could be somewhat spoilery.

My kid's have a couple of the books, They follow episodes in a easy to read way. We probably could get some good spoilers this way...:D

If there is a romance, I can't see Raph falling for her so fast. Remember how he acted about Donnie and April? Raph seems more cynical about any of them finding love, so it seems to me that he won't be the type to go all head over heels in love with her like Donnie did with April. For him, he'll probably reject her or act like he doesn't care about her and deny it even though his brothers tease him. Then, somewhere down the line, he'll realize he does care for her and that's the way it'll be.

I Love the idea of making Raph a bad boy friend, But I don't think Nick will go that way. Him or Mikey could be the first to actually have a Relationship...

That's cause Raph thinks it wouldn't work cause shes human, and donnie is a reptile, This Mona Lisa on the other hand is full reptile, perhaps he will see something in her, or the other way around. Maybe Raph think she is cute, Just like how Raph told Mona Lisa in the original series, That she's kind of cute.

If Raph thinks Mona Lisa Is "Kinda cute" Like 80s turtles.... I will be Very happy....

Well anime fans jack off to some characters even hentai if you know what hentai is, some Star Wars fans jack off to the hot alien chicks in SW same for Trekkies and all that. All fandoms have sexual fetishes you know.


I love Anime... It did not give me a Fetish..... And before anyone calls me on it. Yes, I love Raphs Character, And that is why I have the user name Mona Lisa BUT I don't have turtle fantasies

[Bitsy83]

Welp. I went to B&N and found the book. I told the people who worked there I was getting for my "nephew", even though my boyfriend was there with me and told me not to worry so much about what people would think of a 32-year-old woman buying a book for 1st graders.

ANY-HOO!

It didn't really SPOIL anything. It has the Turtles with the Fugitoid and they're being attacked by Triceratons. They get blasted and crash on an ice covered planet. The ships is damaged and Donnie says they need metal to help repair the ship. As they're searching, Mona Lisa appears and attacks them, but then an ice dragon attacks and they end up helping each other. Probably some misunderstanding, like she thought they were Kraang experiments or something.

I posted the pics on my Tumblr and.....well, I'll let you guys see for yourselves:

http://bitsy83.tumblr.com/post/124708602283/heart-eyes-we-got-heart-eyes-people-all-hands

Sorry haters. Looks like Raph and Mona fall for each other. Oh well. Boo hoo for you; Yippee for me!

[TigerClaw]

Welp. I went to B&N and found the book. I told the people who worked there I was getting for my "nephew", even though my boyfriend was there with me and told me not to worry so much about what people would think of a 32-year-old woman buying a book for 1st graders.

ANY-HOO!

It didn't really SPOIL anything. It has the Turtles with the Fugitoid and they're being attacked by Triceratons. They get blasted and crash on an ice covered planet. The ships is damaged and Donnie says they need metal to help repair the ship. As they're searching, Mona Lisa appears and attacks them, but then an ice dragon attacks and they end up helping each other. Probably some misunderstanding, like she thought they were Kraang experiments or something.

I posted the pics on my Tumblr and.....well, I'll let you guys see for yourselves:

http://bitsy83.tumblr.com/post/124708602283/heart-eyes-we-got-heart-eyes-people-all-hands

Sorry haters. Looks like Raph and Mona fall for each other. Oh well. Boo hoo for you; Yippee for me!
Cool, Here are the images from that page.

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Cool, Here are the images from that page.

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:tlol:

As if there was ever any real chance of this not happening. I gotta say, that's a really badass revamped design for Mona Lisa. Still looks funny without any hair, though... not complaining, just doesn't look a thing like the OT character.

[Raph's Girl]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/dd7218409558296696f36c5bd02ca0bf/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do7_1280.jpg[/spoiler]

D'awwwwww :D

[TigerClaw]

I posted about that on Twitter. :)

[Bitsy83]

:tlol:

As if there was ever any real chance of this not happening. I gotta say, that's a really badass revamped design for Mona Lisa. Still looks funny without any hair, though... not complaining, just doesn't look a thing like the OT character.

To be fair, hardly ANY of the revamped characters look like they're original design. Even the Turtles themselves look different. Only ones who came close were Shredder and Rocksteady.

I'm actually GLAD she doesn't have hair. Unless it was like her membranes or frills that were styled like hair, it would've looked a bit too silly otherwise.

I really like how her sword and her tail work together to form a lightening attack. That's gonna be really neat to see on screen.

Question is, what is she doing on that planet? That can't be where she lives since she has a helmet for air (or whatever her people breathe). Here are my guesses:

- Her people actually live underneath the ice and it's currently the winter season on her planet and the Salamandrians are hibernating (Salamanders do that, right?). Maybe she woke up early to explore the area for any intruders.

- She crashed there herself and was trying to find the resources to fix her ship. When she helps the Turtles, they help repair her ship as well.

- Just some explorer checking out the galaxy.

Either way, from the looks of it she WILL return for more than one episode. I'm kind of hoping they go to a planet that's inhabitated by many different species of aliens so she and the Turtles can blend in.

[victory_angel]

To be fair, hardly ANY of the revamped characters look like they're original design. Even the Turtles themselves look different. Only ones who came close were Shredder and Rocksteady.

I'm actually GLAD she doesn't have hair. Unless it was like her membranes or frills that were styled like hair, it would've looked a bit too silly otherwise.

I really like how her sword and her tail work together to form a lightening attack. That's gonna be really neat to see on screen.

Question is, what is she doing on that planet? That can't be where she lives since she has a helmet for air (or whatever her people breathe). Here are my guesses:

- Her people actually live underneath the ice and it's currently the winter season on her planet and the Salamandrians are hibernating (Salamanders do that, right?). Maybe she woke up early to explore the area for any intruders.

- She crashed there herself and was trying to find the resources to fix her ship. When she helps the Turtles, they help repair her ship as well.

- Just some explorer checking out the galaxy.

Either way, from the looks of it she WILL return for more than one episode. I'm kind of hoping they go to a planet that's inhabitated by many different species of aliens so she and the Turtles can blend in.

Or maybe see was sent to see what had become of the Newtralizer since he is of the same race as her.

Or the Newtralizer is pissed the Turtles defeated the Kraang and him so he gets Mona Lisa to help him destroy the Turtles for interfering.

[Bitsy83]

OH! Something else I found out. I flipped to the first page and it says "Based on the teleplay "The Moons of Thalos 3" by John Shirley. Guess that's the episode's name. Anyone familiar with Shirley? Has he written anything on the show yet?

[Meliwen]

Mona looks great. I thought her skin would be blueish, but it looks grey here, unless that's just the art in the book. And I like how it's not exactly love at first sight, but the crush comes after a mutual understanding.

Also that ice dragon looks really cool.

OH! Something else I found out. I flipped to the first page and it says "Based on the teleplay "The Moons of Thalos 3" by John Shirley. Guess that's the episode's name. Anyone familiar with Shirley? Has he written anything on the show yet?
Apparently John Shirley helped write the Invasion: Part 2 and the Manhattan Project: Part 2. I don't really know who he is, but I liked those episodes, so I'm glad to hear he'll be doing some more writing for the show.

[Klunk1234]

Yep, so it's official! Awesome to hear and can't wait to hear Robin's daughter voicing her. I'm sure she'll do great.


Yes. And her name is Zelda Williams. She will be a good Mona Lisa.

[Vicky82]

Got this from Tumblr, they are pages from that book.

I'll put under spoilers because there are a few pics or just incase they are spoilers.


https://40.media.tumblr.com/3801a64d35e634fef145dede3512e75d/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do1_400.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/10e1f565365116b66ef309b9acd5e323/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do2_400.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/fafdb35729200e070736342e8253294e/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do3_540.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/6cb0e3769777b1df4fdb239282ddf763/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do4_250.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/7851499bc88c86cf7f2d9e55baa3dabf/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do5_250.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/d2cef5f98001250dfaeadfdff1c47897/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do6_250.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/dd7218409558296696f36c5bd02ca0bf/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do7_540.jpg

[BubblyShell22]

Mona, I'm not saying Raph will be a bad boyfriend, just more that he's cynical about the whole relationship thing and wouldn't want to jinx it. I don't think he'd be mean to her or anything. And it looks like that's not going to happen, but it's cute. Awesome pics from the book, too.

[TigerClaw]

I just tweeted to Black Nerd that link, I wonder if he'll respond to it.

[neatoman]

So from that leaked children's book, does anyone else feel like she's probably just going to be yet another throwaway character?

[Metalwolf]

Jake, if you're into Mona Lisa, that would make you a scaly, not a furry since she's a reptile.Just one question about this, I know it's a bit off topic, but how does it make him a whatever if the old Mona was originally a human? Does the mutant part destroy any humanity left (so she now is completely an animal) or is she different then if she had started out as an animal and not human?

Simply because I sort of asked this question about Splinter and people gave one type of answer, and people in this thread give another. Either she's gross and it makes Jake a scaly, or she's still fundamentally a human and it really doesn't.

I find it worse when a mutated human falls for a mutated animal then if a human falls for a mutated human or a mutated animal falls for an amphibioid alien. Mikey falls for Renet, Leo fell for Karai, Donnie fell for April, but I hear little to no complaints. But if a human male falls for a mutated female human, then somehow it's worse squicky over some mutated animals falling for the humans listed. I'm not defending JakeSully (furries feel icky to me with their lecherousness) but it comes off as hypocritical and double standardish, as it's like a fat guy can fall for a thin girl (and he's 'lucky') but a thin guy can't fall for a fat girl because it's 'lowering' himself.

Anyway, I'm liking this Mona over the original, for once it's not a mutated human. It's also nice we'll have a 'new' character that also expands on the background of another (showing a female of Newt's race) and establishes that Salamadarians are an actual species.

[Meliwen]

So from that leaked children's book, does anyone else feel like she's probably just going to be yet another throwaway character?
I feel like she'll be back for a couple more episodes. Not as many or as connected to the plot like Slash or the other Mutanimals, but more than the mutant of the week characters.

What I really hope is that we get to know some more about her background and more about the Salamandarians the next time she shows up.

[yellowmario27]

Got this from Tumblr, they are pages from that book.

I'll put under spoilers because there are a few pics or just incase they are spoilers.


https://40.media.tumblr.com/3801a64d35e634fef145dede3512e75d/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do1_400.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/10e1f565365116b66ef309b9acd5e323/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do2_400.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/fafdb35729200e070736342e8253294e/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do3_540.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/6cb0e3769777b1df4fdb239282ddf763/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do4_250.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/7851499bc88c86cf7f2d9e55baa3dabf/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do5_250.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/d2cef5f98001250dfaeadfdff1c47897/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do6_250.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/dd7218409558296696f36c5bd02ca0bf/tumblr_nrv806aBVV1rohc7do7_540.jpg


these were literally just posted on the same page!

[Metalhead 2.0]

Well anime fans jack off to some characters even hentai if you know what hentai is, some Star Wars fans jack off to the hot alien chicks in SW same for Trekkies and all that. All fandoms have sexual fetishes you know.

And what do you think of demon tentacle porn?

https://thatsrontoyou.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/202314.jpg

[Amaranthus]

I'm really glad there's a mutual attraction. It's good that Raph will never stoop to Donnie's level.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well anime fans jack off to some characters even hentai if you know what hentai is, some Star Wars fans jack off to the hot alien chicks in SW same for Trekkies and all that. All fandoms have sexual fetishes you know.

And what do you think of demon tentacle porn?

How is jacking off to anthropomorphic animals similar to liking something like Star Wars?

On furries, how come you 2 don't look down on other fandoms like Otakus, Trekkies, Star Wars fans, Whovians (Dr Who fans) etc.? and do you think furries are pretty much similar to those fandoms?

Face it, TMNT is popular among the furry fandom. I am a proud furry myself and a proud brony as well, i'm also an Otaku, a Star Wars fan, a semi-trekkie, Whovian and whatever in fandom.

About f*king someone from a fandom is fine with me whether it's a furry, a pega-sister, a female Star Wars fan, a female trekkie or Otaku etc. that i want.

You know what Otakus are right?

Jake, if you're into Mona Lisa, that would make you a scaly, not a furry since she's a reptile.

Are you sure? Because I've already told you not to PM me once when you were spazzing out about comic book movies.

HOLY SH!T, how did I miss all this comedy gold!?

I don't know what an Otaku is. EDUCATE ME. And not in a damn PM, I want this thread back off the rails. :tlol:

A few more months of research on this site and I'm gonna have more than enough material to write a comedy series. Step back, "The Office" or "Parks and Rec"... "The Forum" is coming!!!

[Amaranthus]

I should be the main focus because I'm amazing.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I should be the main focus because I'm amazing.

You can't compete with the godlike comedy provided by CyberCubed. Gonna write an entire episode... "Turtle Nostrils"

[Candy Kappa]

primarily an Otaku is a person that is heavily into a hobby such as Anime and Manga, it's often used a pejorative stereotype as an Otaku can be a person that is unhealthily obsessed about the hobby they are into.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

primarily an Otaku is a person that is heavily into a hobby such as Anime and Manga, it's often used a pejorative stereotype as an Otaku can be a person that is unhealthily obsessed about the hobby they are into.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku

Thank you, Candy! I was surprised tentacles were not involved. :tlol:

[Candy Kappa]

They can be, if you want to... :P

[TigerClaw]

Pretty soon, a whole new generation will get to experience the new Mona Lisa, And her fandom will still continue on for the years to come.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They can be, if you want to... :P

That won't be necessary. :tlol:

[TigerClaw]

Bitsy83 I submitted your Mona Lisa Tumblr post to the TMNT Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TMNT/comments/3edqbe/new_images_of_mona_lisa_from_season_4_of_the_nick/

[Metalwolf]

Glad the attention's not focused on me, for Cubee and Sully attract the most salacious posts about Turtle Nostrils, Furries, and what amounts to octopus porn. :D

Anyway, bla bla Mona Lisa, bla bla bla, in space!

[lonewarrior20]

HOLY SH!T, how did I miss all this comedy gold!?

I don't know what an Otaku is. EDUCATE ME. And not in a damn PM, I want this thread back off the rails. :tlol:
i think the best way to describe what an otaku is is to look up the series genshiken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24BPqvENOL8
technically a good number of us are the otaku of tmnt.

[Mona_Lisa]

You can't compete with the godlike comedy provided by CyberCubed. Gonna write an entire episode... "Turtle Nostrils"

Wow you guys are hilarious, green tea just shot out my "nostrils"!:D

Anyway "otaku" they are normally super strange and isolate themselves from the outside word as much as possible, right? O, and they are super obsessive like the others said.

[Powder]

While the word's origin is essentially an insult (in Japan, you're shunned for putting too much time/money into your preferred series), the people who identify themselves as such are by no means defined as "strange & self-isolated" though every fandom has a percentage like that. It's just a term for those who are dedicated and/or obsessive fans of anime, though it can extend to other things. Technically speaking, virtually every member of this forum could be considered an Otaku of sorts, but for TMNT, rather than anime.

[Jester]

Just call me Otaku Saki. :D

[TigerClaw]

According to the Urban Dictionary on Otaku.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=otaku
Otaku is the honorific word of Taku (home).

Otaku is extremely negative in meaning as it is used to refer to someone who stays at home all the time and doesn't have a life (no social life, no love life, etc)

Usually an otaku person has nothing better to do with their life so they pass the time by watching anime, playing videogames, surfing the internet (otaku is also used to refer to a nerd/hacker/programmer).

In the Western culture, people confuse otaku to be something positive like "Guru". If you think about it, it's not really good to be called a guru if it means you are a total loser who can't socialize with other people except through the Internet.

Other Japanese words which have been confused by Westerners also include but not limited to: Anime, Manga, etc
otaku no jinsei ha yabai na! (it sucks to live the life of an otaku!)

[Powder]

That's in Japan. Westerners took the term & reinvented it to simply be a label for obsessive (anime) fans.

[TigerClaw]

And I don't think you can call the Turtles an Otaku, Even though they like the same stuff, And living in the sewers there whole life, They are never isolated.

[Powder]

Nobody was...?

[Leo656]

Nobody was...?

I didn't think so either! :tlol: That seemed kinda outta left field. Wasn't sure if he misinterpreted or I just missed something. Good to know it was the latter. I'd hate to think I'm slippin'.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Just call me Otaku Saki. :D

You win the Forum for today, good sir. LMAO

[Leo656]

He always does. F*** that guy. :tgrumble:

[Jester]

He always does. F*** that guy. :tgrumble:
I dunna, man, you got me several times tonight yourself. The Nash gif breeding and Cubed is Krang posts are gold.

[Leo656]

I swear Cubed is Krang. We must assemble proof. Have we EVER seen them even post in the same thread? Or even in the same day? I doubt it!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I swear Cubed is Krang. We must assemble proof. Have we EVER seen them even post in the same thread? Or even in the same day? I doubt it!

Hold on, let me get my tinfoil hat...

And considering Krang is on here, maybe once a week? I totally believe. :tlol:

[BubblyShell22]

Metalwolf, I didn't say Jake was disgusting. I was merely correcting him because he called himself a furry over Mona Lisa, and that would make him a scaly if he's attracted to her since she's a reptile and not a mammal.

[Amaranthus]

Metalwolf, I didn't say Jake was disgusting. I was merely correcting him because he called himself a furry over Mona Lisa, and that would make him a scaly if he's attracted to her since she's a reptile and not a mammal.

She's an amphibian. Both plastroncafe and me have stated that already.
Jesus guys, you're supposed to know such things.

[TigerClaw]

She's an amphibian. Both plastroncafe and me have stated that already.
Jesus guys, you're supposed to know such things.
amphibian fall under Scaleys too, I dont think they have a word for those who are into anthro amphibians, People who are into anthro birds are often called Avians

Anything thats Reptiles, Dinosaurs, Dragons, and Amphibians are considered Scaly.

[Amaranthus]

amphibian fall under Scaleys too, I dont think they have a word for those who are into anthro amphibians, People who are into anthro birds are often called Avians

Anything thats Reptile, Dinosaurs, Dragons, and Amphibian are considered Scaly.

Bubbly called her a reptile and I corrected her.
Why the hell are you capitalizing all those words?

[TigerClaw]

Bubbly called her a reptile and I corrected her.
Why the hell are you capitalizing all those words?
Since when were you a grammar nazi?

[Amaranthus]

Since when were you a grammar nazi?

What you're doing is incredibly annoying. Calling you out for that doesn't make me a grammar nazi.

[BubblyShell22]

Fine. Whatever. I call her a reptile because I always thought lizards were reptiles, and I was talking about the 80's Mona Lisa. Either way, Jake's a scaly.

[TigerClaw]

What you're doing is incredibly annoying. Calling you out for that doesn't make me a grammar nazi.
Calling me out for such things like that, I consider being a grammar nazi, Just let it go man.

[TigerClaw]

Back on the subject of Mona Lisa, It was never quite explain how she became a lizard, She mutated in the Sub, but there were no presence of any lizard or salamander, she just randomly mutated into one.

the logic of the original series was, any animal you last touched, you mutate into it.

[Amaranthus]

Fine. Whatever. I call her a reptile because I always thought lizards were reptiles, and I was talking about the 80's Mona Lisa. Either way, Jake's a scaly.

I'm sorry. I didn't know you were talking about 80's Mona.

[plastroncafe]

She was a salamander in the 80s toon.
They're amphibians, not reptiles.

[TigerClaw]

She was a salamander in the 80s toon.
They're amphibians, not reptiles.
Yeah shes definitely more a salamander then a reptile, because of her skin is more smooth then scaly.

http://www.californiaherps.com/salamanders/images/dtenebrosusmrw.jpg

[srmff]

Well wiki claims that she's a lizard. I know wiki is not a reliable source but still. It was a cartoon and they never added much texture. The turtles themselves hardly looked scaly.

[TigerClaw]

Well wiki claims that she's a lizard. I know wiki is not a reliable source but still. It was a cartoon and they never added much texture. The turtles themselves hardly looked scaly.
That's the limitation of cel shaded animation, they can't draw the extra detail since it would take longer to produce.

[srmff]

That's the limitation of cel shaded animation, they can't draw the extra detail since it would take longer to produce.

I know that's true but then you can't claim that Mona is a salamander based on her texture being smooth rather than scaly.

[ssjup81]

So....I guess this is officially going to happen? They are going to have a version of Mona Lisa in this incarnation? I liked her character for the OT because she was sassy and a smart ass (like OT Raph). I wonder what her personality is going to be like for this one. What will her backstory be? I'm going to partially assume that her secondary story will be as a friend to Raph or a love-interest to him.

[plastroncafe]

I know that's true but then you can't claim that Mona is a salamander based on her texture being smooth rather than scaly.

The same wiki says she's a salamander in the entry for her first appearance.

http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Raphael_Meets_His_Match

It is then that Mona reveals that she, like Raph, is a mutant as well: she was a normal college student majoring in biology, until Captain Flich kidnapped her during a fishing trip with her friends, and forced her to work on his sub-marine. One day, Mona sabotaged Flich's laboratory in order to escape, but was turned into a half human, half salamander mutant. Since then, she's been waiting for a chance to get back at Filch.

[srmff]

The same wiki says she's a salamander in the entry for her first appearance.

http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Raphael_Meets_His_Match

Fair enough and this is why you can't always trust wiki. Full of contradictions.

[ticktack]

Being a warrior I think is a different area for a character, she would develop her spiritual level, gain some intelligence on the way i.e. of her missions, like, imagine seeing your partners being damaged or killed or going through hard times during tests to be accepted as a warrior, if she's yet a rookie that'd be a little different.
She could also still be interested in physics, that'd be good for kids watching the show, they'd be more interested in it or may be involved. She could be a human mutant, idk don't ask me, thinking of such concept she could be a spy from earth or that'd be a wicked cause to accuse her for, or calling herself and being an alien would look like a sacrifice if she's had a family or important person(s) or etc on earth probably and left them all behind or at least she could have a connection with them through the internet (in space? I don't really know), phone calling but if she do that or not for what reasons or for not - you could think about it. :)

[SophieDem]

Tried to catch up on this topic... :lol:

So I need to let it out. Personally, I didn't want to have Mona on the show because she was definitely going to be a love interest for Raph who is my favorite character. (JUDGE ME PEOPLE!) I didn't see Raphael going though the same process like how Mikey, Leo and Donnie did. I just couldn't. Agonizing over them and flirting... That doesn't fit his character. But if they become good partners/friends and their love develops that way... I'm fine with that. I would be more than glad if I saw a mature love relationship in the show. Mikey's and Renet's interaction was nicely handled in a way but that was just an instant crush. Maybe Raph will see Mona during a fight first and admits that she has good fighting skills. He digs strong women... *cough*Karai *cough* Then we will get a good girl character finally and see a compatible relationship. Which could work! Oh, sorry. Mona is going to be a space lizard and Raphael is a Earth turtle...

[ssjup81]

Tried to catch up on this topic... :lol:

So I need to let it out. Personally, I didn't want to have Mona on the show because she was definitely going to be a love interest for Raph who is my favorite character. (JUDGE ME PEOPLE!) I didn't see Raphael going though the same process like how Mikey, Leo and Donnie did. I just couldn't. Agonizing over them and flirting... That doesn't fit his character. But if they become good partners/friends and their love develops that way... I'm fine with that. I would be more than glad if I saw a mature love relationship in the show. Mikey's and Renet's interaction was nicely handled in a way but that was just an instant crush. Maybe Raph will see Mona during a fight first and admits that she has good fighting skills. He digs strong women... *cough*Karai *cough* Then we will get a good girl character finally and see a compatible relationship. Which could work! Oh, sorry. Mona is going to be a space lizard and Raphael is a Earth turtle...Mikey's crush didn't seem to come out until Renet called him the cute one.

[Meliwen]

IDK, the first time he gets a good look at her he's practically stunned by her beauty. I guess you could say he was enamored with her the moment he saw her, but only solidified the crush once he saw her personality. Either way, my biggest want for Raph's crush is for something that doesn't happen right away; I'd love it if it happened after some sort of character growth from both of them first.

[ssjup81]

IDK, the first time he gets a good look at her he's practically stunned by her beauty. I guess you could say he was enamored with her the moment he saw her, but only solidified the crush once he saw her personality. Either way, my biggest want for Raph's crush is for something that doesn't happen right away; I'd love it if it happened after some sort of character growth from both of them first.I like the fact that Raph won't fall for a human character...if that's where they're going. I also would like for Raph to threaten pounding anyone who even insinuates the notion to him. :lol:

[TigerClaw]

During the TMNT NYCC 2015, They showed a clip that featured Mona Lisa in it, You can view it by going to the 18:20 mark of the video.

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