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Raph's Girl
07-10-2015, 03:32 PM
Coming in 2016 to the CW Network, a live action Archie series called Riverdale! This was announced today at Comic Con. Casting expected soon.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/archie-ceo-goldwater-announces-live-action-riverdale-tv-series
Raph's Girl
11-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Casting calls are now out along with character profiles. It's not good folks... not good at all. :ohwell:
ARCHIE ANDREWS – A high school sophomore, the redhead is still boyishly handsome but “pumped and looking good after working construction for his dad during the summer.” Oh, and he’s harboring more than one dark, terrible secret.
BETTY COOPER – The blonde and pretty sophomore is described as having “some self-esteem issues and affinity for Adderall.” Betty has an emotionally brittle mom, a goth-like sister and a coveted spot on the cheerleading squad — though with certain conditions…
VERONICA LODGE – Producers are aiming to ideally cast a Latina as this “silver-tongued” stunner, who has just returned to Riverdale from New York following a scandal which resulted in her father going to prison.
JUGHEAD JONES – A hearing-impaired actor is being sought to play Jughead as an “emo-heartthrob.” The lanky lad is Archie’s former best friend, seeing as the two still are smarting from a rift that took place between them.
WTF did Hiram Lodge do to be imprisioned?! :o Polly's a goth?! Betty's a druggie?! Jughead hates Archie?!
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-casting-notices-cw-riverdale/
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-05-2015, 09:11 PM
This is gonna be hilarious. How far from the source material can we get? How many fans can we piss off? How many STDs can get passed around the triangle of Arch, Bets, and Veronica?
I've never been interested in Archie, but I feel for you fans...
Peanut
11-05-2015, 09:22 PM
I have to admit to being a closet Archie fan. I read Digest all through my childhood and into adulthood. I haven't actually read Archie in many years, but I've certainly read/heard about all the super progressive things they've been doing in comics. I've always wanted either A) a goofy Archie sitcom or B) a movie in the vein of Josie and the Pussycats.
This...nobody asked for this.
Raph's Girl
11-05-2015, 10:14 PM
but I've certainly read/heard about all the super progressive things they've been doing in comics. I've always wanted either A) a goofy Archie sitcom or B) a movie in the vein of Josie and the Pussycats.
This...nobody asked for this.
Life With Archie: Married Life was awesome (the ending was very depressing)
Afterlife With Archie is Awesome and uber dark
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is just plain DARK and sooo not for kids
The reboot of the franchise is nice and somewhat angsty (Im sure someday we'll find out WTF the "lipstick" incident was.)
Archie vs Predator: AKA how to kill people off in the most greusome ways possible. :o
This tho...Ugh...
As for a movie. Well just find 1990's Return To Riverdale.
So there's an Archie multiverse now?
Guitar_Raph
11-06-2015, 04:29 AM
Where's Reggie, Moose, Midge & Big Ethel?
This is a far cry from their Filmation series.
This also marks post 2,150!
Storm Eagle
11-06-2015, 07:18 AM
Casting calls are now out along with character profiles. It's not good folks... not good at all. :ohwell:
WTF did Hiram Lodge do to be imprisioned?! :o Polly's a goth?! Betty's a druggie?! Jughead hates Archie?!
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-casting-notices-cw-riverdale/
I'm surprised that they didn't make it so that Jughead has Aspergers.
Life With Archie: Married Life was awesome (the ending was very depressing)
Afterlife With Archie is Awesome and uber dark
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is just plain DARK and sooo not for kids
The reboot of the franchise is nice and somewhat angsty (Im sure someday we'll find out WTF the "lipstick" incident was.)
Archie vs Predator: AKA how to kill people off in the most greusome ways possible. :o
This tho...Ugh...
As for a movie. Well just find 1990's Return To Riverdale.
Yeah, still no DVD release for that movie. Not even on DVD-R.
ProactiveMan
11-06-2015, 09:52 AM
Where's Reggie, Moose, Midge & Big Ethel?
This is a far cry from their Filmation series.
This also marks post 2,150!
We're a long way from Archie's TV Funnies. I hope Mr Weatherbee turns out to be an undercover DEA agent.
Raph's Girl
11-06-2015, 03:08 PM
So there's an Archie multiverse now?
The Multi-verse was established a couple years ago in Life With Archie: Married Life with a COIE type storyline (one that in the end only Mr. Lodge remembered). Ambrose, a character who's been around since the Lil Archie days, has the ability to travel in the multi-verse. The main opening is a street in Riverdale called Memory Lane. It's a small breach that alows people to travel to various earths. During the COIE type event there was a major breach that was closed thanks to Mr. Lodge (who kinda went all loopy after it ended), Moose, Ambrose, and a couple others.
Memory Lane was also used in the main book when Archie was dating Valerie (from Josie and the Pussycats). It showed him all the possible futures for him (mainly one where he was married to Valerie...Betty ended up as his sister-in-law as at the time she was dating Valerie's brother).
All the various stories and books are now just simply part of the multi-verse (especialy in the ones in the double digest).
chrisdude
11-06-2015, 07:26 PM
What's COIE?
I really don't feel like there's any kind of world the Riverdale characters wouldn't work in. If they want to put them in a teen drama with real-world problems, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't exist. I'm cool with having the new comics, the classic-style digests (which I understand are to continue as usual), and this new series.
I'll definitely watch a couple to see how it turns out. I can comfortably walk away, accepting that it's not for me, so long as I feel they've done the characters justice.
I think it's an exciting time to be an Archie fan. I hope all these wild things they're trying out succeed in keeping the property relevant.
TurtleTitan97
11-06-2015, 07:31 PM
What's COIE?
Crisis on Infinite Earths
So, like... has anybody been reading the new reboot series by Mark Waid and Fiona Staples? It nicely updates the characters and their world while retaining their classic appeal, doesn't needlessly "edgy" things up, throws in some fun and engaging narrative stuff, and is overall a solid, fun, thoroughly likeable series.
And it's also clear that it'd translate pretty damn smoothly into a live-action dramedy series.
...juuuust saying.
Raph's Girl
01-29-2016, 11:28 PM
Looks like filming starts this spring. CW Network officially ordered the pilot.
http://archiecomics.com/archie-comics-kicks-off-75th-anniversary-celebration-with-major-news-the-cw-officially-picks-up-riverdale-live-action-tv-pilot/
Raph's Girl
02-09-2016, 03:18 PM
And casting has begun!! Disney kid Cole Sprouse has been cast as Jughead! :o Lili Reinhart has been cast as Betty. Wonder if Dylan will show up in the show? It be like "Hey this is my identical cousin...." :P
And the info from the casting calls is still legit it seems as Jughead and Archie had a falling out. :/
http://comicbook.com/2016/02/09/riverdale-casts-its-jughead-and-betty/
Raph's Girl
02-24-2016, 06:04 PM
Uh...*blinks* *looks at the date on the calender* Luke Perry has been cast as Fred Andrews. WTF?! :teek:
http://archiecomics.com/the-cw-riverdale-news-meet-fred-andrews/
chrisdude
02-24-2016, 08:17 PM
Okay, so, I'm concerned now.
Raph's Girl
02-24-2016, 09:44 PM
WTH?! Archie's not a red head?!?!? Josie of Josie and the Pussycats is black? Will Valerie now be played by a white girl? :ohwell:
New Zealand actor KJ Apa has been cast as Archie:
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/riverdale-lead-archie.jpg
Ashleigh Murray has been cast as Josie:
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/ashleigh-murray-josie.jpg
http://deadline.com/2016/02/riverdale-archie-cast-kj-apa-cw-pilot-1201708847/
Edit: I just remembered Christopher Rich didn't have red hair when he played Archie in 1990 in FOX's attempt at a live action Archie series with Return to Riverdale. Meh. :/
ProactiveMan
02-25-2016, 09:29 AM
You can get away with casting against a character's appearance a lot of the time, but not Archie. The way he looks is as much a part of his character as his personality. Josie, not so much, but casting that guy as Archie is like casting a dog as Garfield.
Raph's Girl
02-26-2016, 08:34 PM
Camila Mendes (this is her first role like ever) has been cast as Veronica
http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/FB-veronica-riverdale-706a1.jpg
And Madelaine Petsch has been cast as the Biatch Cheryl Blossom. Nobody will be playing her twin brother, Jason, tho as apparantly he died "in a mysterious accident" WTF?!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/blossom-social-2ca70.jpg
Also apparantly it's been picked up for series so we'll definatly be seeing this in the fall.
http://deadline.com/2016/02/riverdale-archie-comics-pilot-veronica-camila-mendes-cw-1201710249/
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/riverdale-casts-madelaine-petsch-cheryl-blossom
Raph's Girl
03-04-2016, 04:28 PM
And now for the mom's!
24 actress Marissa Nichols has been cast as Hermione Lodge who has returned to Riverdale after the scandal with Hiram (I can't wait to find out WTF this whole scandal is that caused Hiram to be imprisioned! )
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/marisol-nichols-hermione-gingold.jpg
Madchen Amick meanwhile has been cast as Betty's mom, Alice Cooper, who is now editor of the newspaper (which is kinda odd as that's usually what Reggie's dad does in the comics. But there's been no mention of the Mantle's so far! )
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/madchen-amick-alice-cooper.jpg
Spike Spiegel
03-05-2016, 11:40 AM
^Has Betty's mom's name always been "Alice Cooper"?
I've read a few of the recent ongoing Archie comics and they seemed decent.
Anybody remember "Archie's Weird Mysteries"?
Storm Eagle
03-06-2016, 12:10 AM
Anybody remember "Archie's Weird Mysteries"?
*raises my hand*
Now how about The New Archies?
Spike Spiegel
03-06-2016, 11:09 AM
*raises my hand*
Now how about The New Archies?
I think that one was before my time.
Watched the intro on YouTube and chuckled at seeing "Pop's Video Cafe." You don't get any more '80s than that.
tmntfannumerouno
03-06-2016, 11:28 AM
^Has Betty's mom's name always been "Alice Cooper"?
I've read a few of the recent ongoing Archie comics and they seemed decent.
Anybody remember "Archie's Weird Mysteries"?
Archie's Weird Mysteries is pretty much what made me a fan of archie in the first place. After watching that series I started reading the comics and checking out the old series. I actually started re-watching it a few days ago lol, I think I only have two or three episodes left to watch.
As for this though I might give it a try but idk.
Raph's Girl
03-06-2016, 01:29 PM
Welp I read a review of spoilers for this show... some of the er highlights:
Archie WILL have red hair
Pop Tate is Greek (still want John Ryes Davies to play him tho)
Reggie is a drunkard
Hiram and Hermione Lodge are divorced! :o
Jughead's addicted to caffiene instead of burgers and is no longer friends with Archie
Betty and Veronica aren't friends anymore either apparantly
Twinsest IS hinted at between Cheryl and Jason (who's death is a plot point in the pilot)
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/29/ive-read-the-script-for-the-tv-pilot-for-archie-comics-riverdale-f-bombs-murder-noir-rainbow-parties-and-cougars/
Oh and yes Betty's mom has always been Alice Cooper. Her father is Hal, Her brother is Chic, and her sister is Polly.
ZariusTwo
03-06-2016, 01:33 PM
Betty and Veronica aren't friends anymore either apparantly.
That makes sense. They're not exactly friends in the rebooted Archie comics either
Raph's Girl
03-09-2016, 11:50 PM
Reggie, Moose and Dilton have been cast now. Reggie is being reduced to recurring character status for some reason. Hrm...
Daniel Yang is Dilton, Ross Butler is Reggie, and Cody Kearsley is Moose Mason
Somehow I had a feeling that Reggie would be asian..
The images below are Ross Butler and Cody Kearsley. Not finding one of Daniel Yang yet.
http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ross-butler-cody-kearsley.jpg
Raph's Girl
03-12-2016, 04:39 PM
Kevin Keller has now been cast! He'll be played by unknown Casey Cott. This kid looks like he stepped out of the comics!
http://media.comicbook.com/2016/03/kevinkellerriverdale-173852.png
http://comicbook.com/2016/03/12/the-cws-riverdale-casts-casey-cott-as-popular-gay-character-kevi/
Raph's Girl
03-16-2016, 03:21 PM
Some more casting!
Colin Lawrence is Coach Clayton
Lochlyn Munro (recently seen in 2 eps of Lucifer) is Hal Cooper (Betty's dad)
Ashanti Bromfeld is Melody (Josie and the Pussycats)
Irie Hayleau is Valerie (Josie and the Pussycats)
Caitlin Mitchell-Markovitch is Ginger Lopez (one of Archie's love interests in the comics)
Apparantly Cheryl is the big bad in the 1st season (taking her anger out on everyone for the loss of her brother?)
Raph's Girl
03-19-2016, 08:26 AM
Barclay Hope (who I last saw as Lily's foster father in Once Upon A Time) and Nathalie Bolt (I think the only thing I've seen her in is District 9) have been cast as Cheryl Blossom's parents Clifford and Penelope.
In the comics Clifford is essentially Bill Gates. An uber rich, yet down to earth software designer. The Blossom's are richer than the Lodge's.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd4khfSVIAASiZ1.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd4khfQUMAEgyI9.jpg
Allio
03-19-2016, 08:37 AM
So there's an Archie multiverse now?
you didn't think Big Bang Theory was lieing, did you?
Raph's Girl
03-21-2016, 12:01 PM
Ok everyone. We can all relax. KJ Apa's now sportin red hair. Fun tidbit: KJ's part Samoan.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeAV_JEVAAEHb4H.jpg
Been following the goings on of the cast and stuff on twitter.
https://twitter.com/CWRiverdaleNews
Raph's Girl
04-04-2016, 04:36 PM
Dear CW Network. Miss Grundy is supposed to be older not YOUNGER than me. Seriously WTF?!
Introducing Sarah Habel as Miss Grundy (according to the show's twitter page):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce9hcY_UUAAjWng.jpg
Yoshimickster
04-07-2016, 11:43 PM
Dear CW Network. Miss Grundy is supposed to be older not YOUNGER than me. Seriously WTF?!
Introducing Sarah Habel as Miss Grundy (according to the show's twitter page):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce9hcY_UUAAjWng.jpg
...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? This show is gonna bomb SO hard.
Raph's Girl
04-08-2016, 03:08 PM
And now for:
Pop Tate:
Alvin Sanders (Mr. Popo in DBZ and has even done a couple voices in MLP FIM) has been cast as Pop Tate...At 62 he's the oldest person on CW network...
http://www.magweb.com/picts/nm0761452.jpg
Jason Blossom
Trevor Stines (he's a fashion model/actor from Seattle) has been cast as Jason Blossom (he'll just be shown in flashbacks):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GvATEBV9zKM/U9_jAIc0McI/AAAAAAAAGCg/RiYEKRkqvZk/s1600/trevor7.jpg
Smithers:
Tom McBeath (SG1's Harry Maybourne) has been cast as Smithers
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfVOxJbWEAARe6O.jpg
Raph's Girl
05-12-2016, 05:04 PM
YES!! CW picked officially up Riverdale!!!!!! :D
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/12/cw-riverdale-frequency-no-tomorrow
ZariusTwo
05-19-2016, 08:36 AM
A series summary here as CW release their fall schedule info. The show will be midseason and it will kick off with Archie fresh out of a relationship with his music teacher
http://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-fall-schedule-2016-upfronts-new-shows-supergirl-no-tomorrow-frequency-the-originals-midseason-1201759334/
RIVERDALE — As a new school year begins, the town of Riverdale is reeling from the recent, tragic death of highschool golden boy Jason Blossom — and nothing feels the same… Archie Andrews (KJ Apa) is still the all-American teen, but the summer’s events made him realize that he wants topursue a career in music — not follow in his dad’s footsteps—despite the sudde nend of his forbidden relationship with Riverdale’s young music teacher, Ms.Grundy (Sarah Habel). Which means Archie doesn’t have anyone who will mentorhim — certainly not singer Josie McCoy (Ashleigh Murray), who is only focusedon her band, the soon-to-be-world-famous Pussycats. It’s all weighing heavily on Archie’s mind — as is his fractured friendship with budding writer and fellow classmate Jughead Jones (Cole Sprouse). Meanwhile, girl-next-door Betty Cooper (Lili Reinhart) is anxious to see her crush Archie after being away all summer, but she’s not quite ready to reveal her true feelings to him. And Betty’s nerves – which are hardly soothed by her overbearing mother Alice (Mädchen Amick) aren’t the only thing holding her back. When a new student,Veronica Lodge (Camila Mendes), arrives in town from New York with her mother bHermione (Marisol Nichols), there’s an undeniable spark between her and Archie,even though Veronica doesn’t want to risk her new friendship with Betty bymaking a play for Archie. And then there’s Cheryl Blossom (Madelaine Petsch)…Riverdale’s Queen Bee is happy to stir up trouble amongst Archie, Betty, and Veronica, but Cheryl is keeping secrets of her own. What, exactly, is she hiding about the mysterious death of her twin brother, Jason? Riverdale may look like a quiet, sleepy town, but there are dangers in the shadows… Basedon the characters from Archie Comics, RIVERDALE is from Warner Bros. Televisionand CBS Television Studios, in association with Berlanti Productions, withexecutive producers Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa (“Supergirl,” “Glee”), Greg Berlanti(“Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Supergirl,” “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow”), SarahSchechter (“Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Supergirl,” “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow”) andJon Goldwater (Archie Comics).
ZariusTwo
05-20-2016, 06:16 AM
And now we have a (pretty grimdark) trailer
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Raph's Girl
05-20-2016, 09:57 AM
And now we have a (pretty grimdark) trailer
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Storm Eagle
05-20-2016, 10:00 AM
I'll give this one full season.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 10:31 AM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I can't believe that's not a Youtube parody like that "Grimdark Calvin & Hobbes" movie trailer...
I'll give this one full season.
They renewed Arrow for a fifth season after the nuclear meltdown that has been season four. I expect this to have the same mindless audience.
Krutch
05-20-2016, 10:43 AM
Oh, man...
I have no real attachment to Archie as I never really read any growing up, but... This can't be right :lol:
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 10:44 AM
Oh, man...
I have no real attachment to Archie as I never really read any growing up, but... This can't be right :lol:
Exactly. I feel for all ten of you Archie fans. :tlol:
I'm sorry, was that mean? Is Archie even still a thing?
TurtleTitan97
05-20-2016, 10:49 AM
Exactly. I feel for all ten of you Archie fans. :tlol:
I'm sorry, was that mean? Is Archie even still a thing?
I hear his recent reboot comics are pretty good.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 11:04 AM
I hear his recent reboot comics are pretty good.
Reboot? Did Archie not end in the 70's or whenever? How is it still a thing? Wasn't it all soda jerks and old cars?
Oh no. I'm starting to sound like CyberCubed.
...
THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE LOCKED.
Raph's Girl
05-20-2016, 11:08 AM
I hear his recent reboot comics are pretty good.
The reboot, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (where Betty and Veronica are lesbian witches), Afterlife With Archie (zombie plague! Blame Reggie. It's litterally his fault), Life With Archie: Married Life which ended with Archie being shot to death, Archie vs Predator nearly everyone dies in the most greusome ways! ALL are just awesome... This tho....this is... a bind bending WTF.
I'll just think of it as part of the established Archie multi-verse that was introduced in Life With Archie: Married Life. It's not the traditional Archie, it's just...something else.
ZariusTwo
05-20-2016, 11:09 AM
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TurtleTitan97
05-20-2016, 11:09 AM
Reboot? Did Archie not end in the 70's or whenever? How is it still a thing? Wasn't it all soda jerks and old cars?
Nah, man. They rebooted him last year and made it all modern and stuff. I actually read a panel from it and it was actually pretty funny.
Last I heard they got Mark Waid aboard the book, so that's a plus.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 11:09 AM
The reboot, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (where Betty and Veronica are lesbian witches), Afterlife With Archie (zombie plague! Blame Reggie. It's litterally his fault), Life With Archie: Married Life which ended with Archie being shot to death, Archie vs Predator nearly everyone dies in the most greusome ways! ALL are just awesome... This tho....this is... a bind bending WTF.
I'll just think of it as part of the established Archie multi-verse that was introduced in Life With Archie: Married Life. It's not the traditional Archie, it's just...something else.
Archie's marriage ends with Betty or Veronica double-tapping him in the skull?
Geez. Apparently this "Riverdale" isn't such a grimdark departure as I thought.
Won't someone think of the CHILDREN!?
ZariusTwo
05-20-2016, 11:15 AM
Archie's marriage ends with Betty or Veronica double-tapping him in the skull?
No, he dies saving the life of a gay friend of his.
The married life stories spun out of an arc from the 600th issue of Archie which explored two realities where he married Betty and Veronica. The anniversary arc actually has a more optimistic ending with Archie having kids with them (though I only bought the ones where he and Betty had a family because I 'ship them mostly), which I don't think the ongoing married life books managed to reach
Raph's Girl
05-20-2016, 11:22 AM
Archie's marriage ends with Betty or Veronica double-tapping him in the skull?
No. Married life was 2 different stories set in 2 Earth's that kinda met in a COIE type event that only a couple people remember (Mr. Lodge for one). But it ended the same on both earth's with Archie diving into the line of fire to save the life of Kevin Keller (who had become a senator who's stance was more gun control after his husband was shot by a burgler :roll: ). The last 6 or 7 years Archie comics has been more and more dark with all the insane storylines. Heck Afterlife introduced twinsest into the mix with Cheryl and Jason. "Riverdale" also implies twinsest. The characters in the trailer going "Are you ready" and holding hands are twins Jason and Cheryl....
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 12:47 PM
No. Married life was 2 different stories set in 2 Earth's that kinda met in a COIE type event that only a couple people remember (Mr. Lodge for one). But it ended the same on both earth's with Archie diving into the line of fire to save the life of Kevin Keller (who had become a senator who's stance was more gun control after his husband was shot by a burgler :roll: ). The last 6 or 7 years Archie comics has been more and more dark with all the insane storylines. Heck Afterlife introduced twinsest into the mix with Cheryl and Jason. "Riverdale" also implies twinsest. The characters in the trailer going "Are you ready" and holding hands are twins Jason and Cheryl....
Twins always get singled out for kinky stuff in stories these days... I can just imagine a pair of twins in real life getting frustrating and yelling "WE DON'T DO INCEST! OR THREESOMES!"
Wow, I really DO sound like Cubed. :teek: :tlol:
Storm Eagle
05-20-2016, 06:35 PM
They renewed Arrow for a fifth season after the nuclear meltdown that has been season four. I expect this to have the same mindless audience.
Well what did you think of shows like The Tomorrow People, Hellcats, and The Secret Circle? Those CW shows lasted for just one season.
Raph's Girl
05-20-2016, 07:01 PM
Trailer got taken off YouTube but I found another place with it.
http://www.spoilersguide.com/riverdale/the-cw-first-look-trailer/
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-20-2016, 10:21 PM
Well what did you think of shows like The Tomorrow People, Hellcats, and The Secret Circle? Those CW shows lasted for just one season.
Haven't even heard of them. I only watch The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow.
Raph's Girl
05-20-2016, 10:31 PM
Well what did you think of shows like The Tomorrow People, Hellcats, and The Secret Circle? Those CW shows lasted for just one season.
The Tomorrow People at least gave us Robbie Amell...But yeah it's one failure for Berlanti. Hellcats was basically Ashley Tisdale trying to get away from Disney...by being a fricken cheerleader. :roll:
Secret Circle I had to look up as I didn't remember it at all...totally forgetful.
Storm Eagle
05-20-2016, 11:01 PM
The Tomorrow People at least gave us Robbie Amell...But yeah it's one failure for Berlanti. Hellcats was basically Ashley Tisdale trying to get away from Disney...by being a fricken cheerleader. :roll:
Secret Circle I had to look up as I didn't remember it at all...totally forgetful.
I watched all three shows from their beginning to their end. Hellcats was a different case though. I'd DVR it, and then play the episodes back and only watch scenes with Ashley Tisdale in them.
I can still see Riverdale getting one full season at the most. It starts, and then the CW orders a full season, and then cancels it next spring.
Raph's Girl
08-30-2016, 02:31 PM
Robin Givens has been cast as Sierra McCoy, mother of Josie McCoy (lead singer of Josie and the Pussycats) and mayor of Riverdale.
Shannon Purser (Barb in “Stranger Things”) has been cast as Jughead's stalker (in the comics), Ethel Muggs (altho apparantly she's got a different love interest in the show).
http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/762465-riverdale-cast-adds-shannon-purser-and-robin-givens#/slide/1
Storm Eagle
08-30-2016, 03:00 PM
Shannon Purser (Barb in “Stranger Things”) has been cast as Jughead's stalker (in the comics), Ethel Muggs (altho apparantly she's got a different love interest in the show).
http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/762465-riverdale-cast-adds-shannon-purser-and-robin-givens#/slide/1
Despite this, I wonder if Jughead will still be asexual like he was confirmed to be in the comic book series.
Raph's Girl
08-30-2016, 03:48 PM
Despite this, I wonder if Jughead will still be asexual like he was confirmed to be in the comic book series.
Probably and Ethel won't be stalking him in the tv series so that's good.
Allio
08-30-2016, 03:49 PM
but Jugghead is burgersexual
Storm Eagle
08-30-2016, 04:49 PM
Probably and Ethel won't be stalking him in the tv series so that's good.
I misinterpreted that. Sorry.
Raph's Girl
11-16-2016, 01:34 PM
FINALLY!! A release date for Riverdale!! Looks like it'll be airing on Thursdays at 9pm starting Jan 26th!
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2016/11/16/the-cw-announces-midseason-premiere-dates-312213/20161116cw01/
retr0pia75
11-23-2016, 08:04 PM
I'm sorry, but this is just an incomprehensibly awful idea, even by gritty reboot standards. Archie Comics should be the absolute last brand that deserves this sort of treatment.
Raph's Girl
11-28-2016, 05:42 PM
It's teaser trailer time!! New drinking game. Take a sip everytime Archie is shirtless :roll:
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ProactiveMan
11-29-2016, 07:25 PM
This has to be a joke. An elaborate, extremely expensive joke. You couldn’t make a better parody of goofy, inappropriate adaptations than that trailer.
Raph's Girl
12-14-2016, 04:14 PM
Whoa!! Molly Ringwald has been cast as Archie's mom, Mary Andrews! Seems Mary left town several years ago to "follow her dreams" and returns to help her family thru a trying time. Wonder if Archie has abandonment issues? :roll:
http://comicbook.com/2016/12/14/molly-ringwald-cast-a-archies-mom-in-riverdale/
cammy85
12-15-2016, 11:17 AM
Fred has always been hard on Archie in the comics and Mary not so much from what I recall so I'll bet there will be a lot of tension.
TigerClaw
01-26-2017, 09:06 PM
Some are taking issue with the show not acknowledging Jughead being an Asexual.
http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/1/26/14403700/jughead-riverdale-asexual
Wildcat
01-26-2017, 10:37 PM
Ok I saw this out of curiosity and thought it was pretty good.
The problem for me is I've never really read the comics. I feel I like probably missed out on a bunch of nods to the books. I only recognized the cheerleader outfights.
Are the comics more serious than they seem? I know the show is meant to be more so but generally are the comics more adult?
oldmanwinters
01-26-2017, 11:36 PM
I watched it... pretty weird take for the characters, but... murder mystery!
Storm Eagle
01-27-2017, 12:49 AM
I don't think I'll be committing to this show, but weirdly enough, I can actually see this getting renewed in the spring, and lasting at least two seasons.
TurtleTitan97
01-27-2017, 11:57 AM
Ok I saw this out of curiosity and thought it was pretty good.
The problem for me is I've never really read the comics. I feel I like probably missed out on a bunch of nods to the books. I only recognized the cheerleader outfights.
Are the comics more serious than they seem? I know the show is meant to be more so but generally are the comics more adult?
I've only read the reboot series by Mark Waid, and compared to this show they aren't as serious.
oldmanwinters
01-27-2017, 12:42 PM
Okay, I'll just say it... Archie fornicating with one of his teachers is messed up.
Archie and his teacher being possible witnesses to a murder and then agreeing to remain forever silent in order to protect their own tenuous reputations in the community is even more messed up. I hope the in-universe police come after them both with the full force of the fictional law.
Jester
01-27-2017, 02:07 PM
Well...I'm less than 20 minutes in and already thinking I'm done. Very cliché...especially the character that shares my name. Kevin Keller - Gay Best Friend.
TurtleTitan97
01-27-2017, 03:22 PM
Okay, I'll just say it... Archie fornicating with one of his teachers is messed up.
Archie and his teacher being possible witnesses to a murder and then agreeing to remain forever silent in order to protect their own tenuous reputations in the community is even more messed up. I hope the in-universe police come after them both with the full force of the fictional law.
https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2015/11/20/6358364536926669671854543429_200-1.gif
That was definitely the most messed up part I had when watching this.
Jester
01-27-2017, 03:53 PM
Yeah...that's...wha? Seriously? Why?
I wonder if it's even worth wading through the standard CW teen drama garbage for the mystery plot line...
saintsaucey
01-27-2017, 07:44 PM
https://youtu.be/z2Y9RDfid1E Andre reviewed ths pilot. He loved it for the most part.
Storm Eagle
01-28-2017, 01:43 AM
https://youtu.be/z2Y9RDfid1E Andre reviewed ths pilot. He loved it for the most part.
Say what you all will about Andre, but his take on this is awesome.
I'll try to watch this, but I have a feeling that Betty is going to put me off later with her good girl persona, which seems like it's going to cause her to get antagonized into oblivion. Particularly by Cheryl. Then her character will end up getting too tragic for me.
chrisdude
01-28-2017, 09:22 AM
I was pretty impressed. Considering the direction they took with the show, they did a great job translating the relationships between the characters. Archie's love triangle, the friendship between Betty and Veronica - wonderfully cast, those two.
Hard to judge from one episode, but Kevin may have been given a higher status in the cast than Reggie, who I imagine is one of the first five Archie characters people think of. I haven't read a ton of Archie comics since Kevin was created, maybe five years ago? Hopefully, he's well used, and not merely spotlighted as the token homosexual/"gay best friend."
And it was really cool to see the smaller characters, like Dilton, and Moose. Even in brief glimpses, they seemed themselves. I look forward to seeing more of them.
I was surprised to see Archie and his music thing come up so quickly. Is he going to put together a band? I sincerely want to know. Maybe The Archies will have a rivalry with the Pussycats. I'm down.
The Grundy thing is offputting. I know Archie is a mistake machine, but I'm still waffling over whether this is out of character.
My big complaint is that it seems one of my favorite dynamics won't be preserved. That Urkel/Carl kind of relationship between Archie and Mr. Lodge. It's brought me so many laughs, over the years, that it's hard to imagine a universe where Archie can't accidentally destroy Hiram's stuff.
But, overall, I think they've done a good job, and I'm intrigued enough to keep going.
oldmanwinters
01-28-2017, 09:33 AM
Okay, I'll just say it... Archie fornicating with one of his teachers is messed up.
Archie and his teacher being possible witnesses to a murder and then agreeing to remain forever silent in order to protect their own tenuous reputations in the community is even more messed up. I hope the in-universe police come after them both with the full force of the fictional law.
Well...I'm less than 20 minutes in and already thinking I'm done. Very cliché...especially the character that shares my name. Kevin Keller - Gay Best Friend.
https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2015/11/20/6358364536926669671854543429_200-1.gif
That was definitely the most messed up part I had when watching this.
Yeah...that's...wha? Seriously? Why?
I wonder if it's even worth wading through the standard CW teen drama garbage for the mystery plot line...
I'll take one further shot and the mess and say, "kudos to Kevin & 'closet case' Moose" for having the good sense to report a dead body in spite of any social backlash they may have feared from having to explain why they were planning to skinny dip together in the dead of night." (Seriously though... what the heck was that about anyway?) Their decision makes Archie and his teacher look all the worse morally.
cammy85
01-28-2017, 11:47 AM
Okay, I'll just say it... Archie fornicating with one of his teachers is messed up.
Archie and his teacher being possible witnesses to a murder and then agreeing to remain forever silent in order to protect their own tenuous reputations in the community is even more messed up. I hope the in-universe police come after them both with the full force of the fictional law.
I agree as well!!! If you know the comic history, that makes this even weirder. Miss Grundy was their teacher as kids and was even Fred's teacher when he was a boy. Seeing Miss Grundy as a young teacher is just not right and this relationship is even more messed up. I get they're trying to retell it in a different way but still. Give the audience SOME credit.
oldmanwinters
01-28-2017, 07:39 PM
I agree as well!!! If you know the comic history, that makes this even weirder. Miss Grundy was their teacher as kids and was even Fred's teacher when he was a boy. Seeing Miss Grundy as a young teacher is just not right and this relationship is even more messed up. I get they're trying to retell it in a different way but still. Give the audience SOME credit.
Oh, so "Grundy" is the old lady teacher from the comics? I couldn't remember her name, but I had no idea they had de-aged the classic character. Ewww...
cammy85
01-29-2017, 11:45 AM
Yes, very awkward. I don't recall if we saw Mr. Weatherbee yet.
OT: I also just remembered Miss Grundy and Mr. Weatherbee were also part of that old made for TV movie about Archie and co.'s 15th gradiversary. Even crazier!!
Raph's Girl
01-31-2017, 04:58 PM
Hard to judge from one episode, but Kevin may have been given a higher status in the cast than Reggie.
And it was really cool to see the smaller characters, like Dilton, and Moose. Even in brief glimpses, they seemed themselves. I look forward to seeing more of them.
I was surprised to see Archie and his music thing come up so quickly. Is he going to put together a band? I sincerely want to know. Maybe The Archies will have a rivalry with the Pussycats. I'm down.
My big complaint is that it seems one of my favorite dynamics won't be preserved. That Urkel/Carl kind of relationship between Archie and Mr. Lodge. It's brought me so many laughs, over the years, that it's hard to imagine a universe where Archie can't accidentally destroy Hiram's stuff.
But, overall, I think they've done a good job, and I'm intrigued enough to keep going.
1: Reggie's just a minor recurring character in the Berlanti-verse (yes this is a Berlanti show)
2: Moose was sooo not himself. Especially him coming out to Kevin like that. :lol:
3: Im not sure if "The Archies" will be a band just yet in this take. However there will be a 2 disk set released at the end of the season. One of the songs Archie sings and another of the Pussycats stuff.
4: As for Hiram Lodge. He hasn't been cast yet. But the writers have big plans for him in Season 2.
Yes, very awkward. I don't recall if we saw Mr. Weatherbee yet.
As far as Im aware Miss Grundy and Coach Clayton are the only teachers we'll be seeing anything major of. Mr. Weatherbee, Prof, Flutesnoot, ect won't be major players. I don't think they've even cast Ole Waldo Weatherbe (or young Waldo). :ohwell:
Shark_Blade
02-02-2017, 11:08 AM
Riverdale’s Jughead is no longer asexual, and that’s a problem for fans
http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/1/26/14403700/jughead-riverdale-asexual
In Archie marries Veronica/Betty, they made Jughead married Midge. Freaking Midge!
The asexual hamburger lover now married with the jock’s girlfriend.
Wtf even they ruined my favourite asexual character forever!
She’s supposed to be with that jock Moose. And Jughead has never ever made a move on her nor did he show interest to any of girls in the series.
I hate them for this, so out of character.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Marries_Veronica/Archie_Marries_Betty#Part_1:_Archie_Marries_Veroni ca:_.22The_Proposal.22
Andrew NDB
02-02-2017, 11:16 AM
Riverdale’s Jughead is no longer asexual, and that’s a problem for fans
http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/1/26/14403700/jughead-riverdale-asexual
In Archie marries Veronica/Betty, they made Jughead married Midge. Freaking Midge!
The asexual hamburger lover now married with the jock’s girlfriend.
Wtf even they ruined my favourite asexual character forever! ��
She’s supposed to be with that jock Moose. And Jughead has never ever made a move on her nor did he show interest to any of girls in the series.
I hate them for this, so out of character.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Marries_Veronica/Archie_Marries_Betty#Part_1:_Archie_Marries_Veroni ca:_.22The_Proposal.22
I don't know... I could have sworn I read something with Jughead and Midge wayyy back.
Raph's Girl
02-03-2017, 01:53 AM
Riverdale’s Jughead is no longer asexual, and that’s a problem for fans
In Archie marries Veronica/Betty, they made Jughead married Midge.
Jughead being Asexual is for the recent reboot. He was married to Midge (and boinking Ethel) in the Married Life stuff.
And in "Return To Riverdale" he's a divorced single father. :P
Besides it's an alternate timeline so it doesn't matter. My fave love interest for Jughead will always be January McAndrews (Archie's 30th century descendant) anyways.
chrisdude
02-04-2017, 09:00 PM
Jughead's been asexual for, like, months. I think the asexuality angle makes sense and meshes with the past. But how quickly do TV shows have to adopt what happens in comics? Does Marvel Studios have to make Captain America a HYDRA agent in the movies, now? We know how comics are. They try absolutely everything. If a change sticks, it sticks. If it doesn't? Well, we got to explore something different, and Jughead will have a girlfriend next time around. Who knows?
Raph's Girl
02-04-2017, 09:59 PM
Well, we got to explore something different, and Jughead will have a girlfriend next time around. Who knows?
Jughead currently has a sorta thing with Sabrina ATM actually. It's one of those love/hate relationships. *lol*
tmntfannumerouno
02-05-2017, 01:12 PM
Riverdale’s Jughead is no longer asexual, and that’s a problem for fans
http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/1/26/14403700/jughead-riverdale-asexual
In Archie marries Veronica/Betty, they made Jughead married Midge. Freaking Midge!
The asexual hamburger lover now married with the jock’s girlfriend.
Wtf even they ruined my favourite asexual character forever!
She’s supposed to be with that jock Moose. And Jughead has never ever made a move on her nor did he show interest to any of girls in the series.
I hate them for this, so out of character.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Marries_Veronica/Archie_Marries_Betty#Part_1:_Archie_Marries_Veroni ca:_.22The_Proposal.22
Imo the whole asexual was just done as a favor meant to appease the pc craze of today which means non cannon. The lgbtabcxyz people need to find someone else to latch onto.
Anarchistguy
02-06-2017, 11:34 PM
Riverdale’s Jughead is no longer asexual, and that’s a problem for fans
http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/1/26/14403700/jughead-riverdale-asexual
In Archie marries Veronica/Betty, they made Jughead married Midge. Freaking Midge!
The asexual hamburger lover now married with the jock’s girlfriend.
Wtf even they ruined my favourite asexual character forever! ��
She’s supposed to be with that jock Moose. And Jughead has never ever made a move on her nor did he show interest to any of girls in the series.
I hate them for this, so out of character.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Marries_Veronica/Archie_Marries_Betty#Part_1:_Archie_Marries_Veroni ca:_.22The_Proposal.22
Jughead with Midge? They made him suicidal too?
Jester
02-07-2017, 08:26 AM
Every scene transition needs "Everything's Archie!"
Shark_Blade
02-08-2017, 03:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eGRFACn.jpg
Anyway, I'm rewatching the 2 episodes again. I am OBSESSED with this series! :tlove:
I mean wow perfect casting for the main characters!
Well maybe except Mr Weatherbee (who is black now like Morgan Freeman?) and Ms Grundy (but at least she always ties her hair into a bun which is somewhat her character trait. But still... ah well if Spiderman's Aunt May got de-aged, why can't Ms Grundy, eh?).
But anyway, perfect casting. I like all of the main characters and their flaws. I'd rank them like this:
1. Jughead
2. Betty
3. Veronica
4. Kevin Keller
5. Archie (lmao the lead main character is placed at 5th. That's what you get for sleeping with your middle-aged school teacher you jailbait hoe cow.)
6. Moose
7. Josie and the Pussycats
8. Reggie
chrisdude
02-08-2017, 04:23 PM
Like Morgan Freeman?
Shark_Blade
02-09-2017, 12:09 AM
Black, old and full of wisdom. Not loud, balding and obnoxious like in the comic. :P
And I love that Reggie mentioned Suicide Squad to Jughead, well more like taunting him. Reference! :tlove:
Raph's Girl
02-09-2017, 01:10 AM
5. Archie (lmao the lead main character is placed at 5th. That's what you get for sleeping with your middle-aged school teacher you jailbait hoe cow.)
Middle aged?! She's in her mid/late 20s!!
This is not the first time Ms Grundy has been depicted as young. In the 1960's there was a proposed live action Archie series that never got passed the pilot stage. In that Miss Grundy was also young (30s-ish)...and Jughead had a thing for her. It was weird.
Storm Eagle
02-09-2017, 02:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/eGRFACn.jpg
Anyway, I'm rewatching the 2 episodes again. I am OBSESSED with this series! :tlove:
I mean wow perfect casting for the main characters!
Well maybe except Mr Weatherbee (who is black now like Morgan Freeman?)
I think I once figured they'd do that with Mr. Weatherbee. They could have even made him Indian. Changing ethnicities and races seems to be in fashion when studios do these shows and movies.
How recent is that comic you posted by the way?
chrisdude
02-09-2017, 05:59 AM
Middle aged?! She's in her mid/late 20s!!
This is not the first time Ms Grundy has been depicted as young. In the 1960's there was a proposed live action Archie series that never got passed the pilot stage. In that Miss Grundy was also young (30s-ish)...and Jughead had a thing for her. It was weird.I think pretty much any show about high school has some sort of hot teacher requirement. If they made up a teacher, people would ask why it wasn't a familiar character. They couldn't win.
TurtleTitan97
02-09-2017, 05:24 PM
Middle aged?! She's in her mid/late 20s!!
Actually the actress that plays her is 34.
Shark_Blade
02-10-2017, 05:35 AM
The new episode is... wow. Just wow.
Sexy factor? Check?
Girls standing up for each other? Check.
I like that Betty has a dark side... she's not entirely perfect like people think she is, at least mentally. And Cheryl, I thought she's just another snotty bitch but she at least stood up for what's right and admit that she's sorry on her deceased brother's behalf if he did harm Polly. She's a bitch but I still like her character, that's quality.
Betty's mom is another bitch but I downright hate her. The way she treated Betty, the Blossoms' parents and Hermione Lodge. I would've let her get more than a slap to the face. :tlol:
And at the end we have Archie going at it again with Miss Grundy. Ugh.... no one's here for that filth.
http://i.imgur.com/VmgWLsY.jpg
Now it seems Veronica and Jughead are the only normal people in this insane town lol. Can't wait for more Riverdale! :tlove:
edit: OMIGOSH Miss Grundy... :eek: :teek:
DIED 10 years ago??!!!!! And the picture is similar to that old granny Grundy from the comics!
So who is this cougar imposter sleeping with Archie??!! :eek: :teek:
saintsaucey
02-10-2017, 09:28 AM
The new episode is... wow. Just wow.
Sexy factor? Check?
Girls standing up for each other? Check.
I like that Betty has a dark side... she's not entirely perfect like people think she is, at least mentally. And Cheryl, I thought she's just another snotty bitch but she at least stood up for what's right and admit that she's sorry on her deceased brother's behalf if he did harm Polly. She's a bitch but I still like her character, that's quality.
Betty's mom is another bitch but I downright hate her. The way she treated Betty, the Blossoms' parents and Hermione Lodge. I would've let her get more than a slap to the face. :tlol:
And at the end we have Archie going at it again with Miss Grundy. Ugh.... no one's here for that filth.
http://i.imgur.com/VmgWLsY.jpg
Now it seems Veronica and Jughead are the only normal people in this insane town lol. Can't wait for more Riverdale! :tlove:
edit: OMIGOSH Miss Grundy... :eek: :teek:
DIED 10 years ago??!!!!! And the picture is similar to that old granny Grundy from the comics!
So who is this cougar imposter sleeping with Archie??!! :eek: :teek:
I'm here for that filth
Shark_Blade
02-10-2017, 04:45 PM
I'm here for that filth
You dirty bastard. :teek: :tlol:
Anyways, here's Andre.
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Shark_Blade
02-14-2017, 09:51 AM
BREAKING: Archie Comics Signs Development Deal with Warner Bros. TV (Exclusive)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/archie-comics-signs-development-deal-warner-bros-tv-975805
Everything's coming up Archie.
In the wake of the launch of Riverdale on the CW, Archie Comics has signed an exclusive deal with Warner Bros. Television to develop more of the publisher's properties for television and original content.
http://i.imgur.com/tAYeRjo.jpg
#Riverdale Season 1 is Certified Fresh at 88% http://tmto.es/FqVI308rxUh
As Archie CEO Jon Goldwater tells The Hollywood Reporter, the deal extends beyond the traditional Riverdale crew of Archie, Betty and Veronica as seen in the current CW series. It could include lesser-known properties including "America's Queen of Pin-Ups and Fashions" Katy Keene, as well as the superheroes of the company's Dark Circle imprint.
"Archie is unique in that we have a huge library of characters that are not only recognizable, but they’re successful and entertaining," Goldwater says.
Riverdale creator Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa told reporters last month he was interested in creating a whole Archie world. The series, with its dark tone and sexy new murder mystery plot, has been a critical hit. The deal is similar to Warner Bros. TV's pact with DC Comics, which has seen it put a whole stable of series on the air, including CW's Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl, as well as Fox's Gotham and NBC's Powerless.
Riverdale's success and the TV pact marks the latest stage in Goldwater's push to modernize Archie as a company, which started with the 2010 introduction of Kevin Keller, the first openly gay character in the publisher's long history, and continued with the launch of a series that featured an adult Archie struggling with life post-marriage.
Coinciding with news of the Warner Bros. deal, Archie revealed that Mark Waid, the writer of flagship comic book series Archie, will be expanding his relationship with the company later this year by signing up to co-write a number of series, as well as mentoring upcoming writers, with the overall aim of growing the current stable of talent at the company.
http://i.imgur.com/THgWqyi.jpg
"This opportunity is exciting to me for a number of reasons," Waid says about the new deal, which takes effect in May when he takes over writing the Jughead series with new co-writer Ian Flynn. "First, the chance to expand my role as a writer at Archie is terrific as we all share the same storytelling goals. Second, it allows me to exercise my editorial muscles, which — surprise — is why I got into comics in the first place. But most of all, the opportunity to help build a more diverse staff of writers, younger, eager to learn, and eager to teach me."
In a conversation with THR, Goldwater talks the new Warner Bros. TV deal, where Archie is as a company today — and where it's going next.
The success of Riverdale, and this new deal with Warners, feels like the culmination of Archie's renaissance as a company over the last few years. That's something that you've focused on since becoming CEO in 2009 — a modernization of everyone in Riverdale. Is there a sense of vindication in seeing the characters accepted once again by a mainstream audience?
Yes, there’s a huge sense of vindication. This deal with Warners is in many ways a culmination of the work, along with the amazing staff and freelancers who work at Archie, to bring these characters forward into the present day. To show that Archie is an iconic brand that is flexible, relevant and energized. It’s still Archie, and people want more of him and his friends. In the same way Batman can be dark, bright and funny or off-kilter, Archie can, too. He’s part of a pantheon of select characters and brands that are part of America. They’re part of the consciousness, so there’s a built-in knowledge there.
The transformation of the company has been a slow and steady one, but from today's perspective, it looks as if there's always been a long game at play. Was there an endgame for you even before the introduction of Kevin Keller or launch of Life with Archie: The Married Life that looked pretty much like where you've ended up?
When I first got to the company, there was a long period of "ramping up," for lack of a better term. We had to get up to speed. We had to make noise and not in a gimmick-y way. We had to show people that Riverdale existed in today’s world. It wasn’t a retro, Pleasantville-type town. It was welcoming, it was diverse and it was now. We accomplished a lot of that with the introduction of characters like Kevin Keller, Archie/Valerie getting married, the New Kids and by just making an effort to diversify the cast. Once we did that, we knew we could widen the scope a bit, and show people that Archie could be Archie in a variety of settings. We could have an older Archie dealing with job woes and marital problems, we could bring Archie into alternate realities and face off against things like Predator or Sharknado. We could be fun again.
http://i.imgur.com/7COLxJG.jpg
Was there a moment along the way when you heard a pitch, or saw a piece of art, and thought, "This is it, this is what we're heading towards"?
The moment where I could finally sit down and say “OK, now we’re ready to roll” was [2015's] Archie #1, by Mark Waid and Fiona Staples. This was ground zero for the company. This was a rebirth. This was an Archie for today’s reader. Obviously, we still cherish and respect the classic Archie stories — we still produce them because that audience is hugely important to us. But the Death of Archie was more than a publishing stunt. It was a metaphor for the company. That Archie had to die, saving Kevin Keller, the face of the new Archie brand, to ensure the company would continue. Look at the cover of Archie #1 by Fiona. That’s a direct connection between the comics and Riverdale. It was a long road to get to Riverdale, and it was a tough road.
http://i.imgur.com/mEMDwD5.jpg
The basic concept of Archie (and his pals and gals) is one that feels like a no-brainer for adaptation into other genres: it's a good guy in high school and his friends. You can go anywhere with that. But the comics had settled into one aesthetic, even while playing with things like Time Police or whatever. Was there ever a time when you worried that the characters were being pushed too far for the audience to follow?
As long as the story is good, obviously, and as long as the characters are true to themselves — you can do anything with them. The Archie in Afterlife and in the new Archie series is the same Archie you see in other comics. Sure, the content can change, but at its heart, that’s Archie. Same goes for Riverdale on TV. And that’s what unites fans. There was a time when Archie Comics only produced a certain kind of book. So, once you grew out of those books, you had nowhere to go. So you’d move on to different stuff from different publishers. That’s not the case anymore.
Outside of the core Archie characters — or satellite properties like Sabrina or Josie and the Pussycats — the company has a number of other properties in its portfolio: Li'l Jinx, Katy Keene, the Dark Circle characters. Are there plans to bring any of these into production as part of the new deal?
It’s part of the plan. Archie is unique in that we have a huge library of characters that are not only recognizable, but they’re successful and entertaining. Everyone knows Josie and Sabrina. Beyond that, we have an entire pantheon of heroes and villains that are perfect for TV or movies. Not to mention Katy Keene, Black Hood, Sam Hill, just to name a few. The possibilities are endless, and I can’t wait to start talking about what we have coming up.
Where next for Archie, as a whole?
We’re now a multi-platform company. We’re not just publishing. We have television and we’re talking about animation and licensing and everything, really. We have to now bring the aesthetic and fearlessness that made the comics successful into everything we do, while still keeping the publishing fresh and surprising. We can’t get complacent and we can’t assume people will be with us. We have to continue to strive for quality in the stories we share with our fans and we have to look for opportunities to stand out from the crowd. But our strategy won’t change: to get these characters out there in the best way possible, and to provide our fans with the best stories they could ever imagine.
http://i.imgur.com/GGM4wBV.jpg
Raph's Girl
03-07-2017, 03:11 PM
Riverdale has been renewed for a 2nd season!!! Now to wait to see who they cast as Hiram Lodge!!
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/riverdale-renewed-season-2-cw-netflix-1202003847/
Shark_Blade
03-07-2017, 04:08 PM
Yaasssssss!!!!! :tlove:
Raph's Girl
04-27-2017, 12:29 AM
Whoa! Mark Consuelos has been cast as Hiram Lodge!!! :o
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/mark-consuelos-joins-season-2-231700430.html
Shark_Blade
04-28-2017, 01:48 AM
I read about that. I know nothing about him but his face is a striking resemblance to the comic Hiram. Hope we do get him though.
We lost Ross Butler as Reggie though due to 13 Reasons Why. Goodbye #AsianDudeBroReggie :(
Raph's Girl
04-29-2017, 12:31 AM
I read about that. I know nothing about him but his face is a striking resemblance to the comic Hiram. Hope we do get him though.
All I know about Mark Consuelos is that he started in soaps and is married to Kelly Ripa. The only thing I've seen him in tho is that baseball tv series "Pitch"...I don't really like his acting.
As for Ross Butler. He was hardly in the show to begin with due to the filming of 13 Reasons Why. It'll be interesting to see who they cast as Reggie now.
Storm Eagle
05-15-2017, 09:28 PM
It looks like the show will be going to American Netflix on Thursday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/netflix/status/864193387724853248?p=v
DestronMirage22
05-16-2017, 12:14 AM
It looks like the show will be going to American Netflix on Thursday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/netflix/status/864193387724853248?p=v
Hmm....that might get me to start watching the show. Might.
Shark_Blade
05-16-2017, 01:16 AM
Season 2 is expected June 2018 though. T_T :cry:
I'm just watching several youtubers reaction on the episodes (particularly the finale) for now.
Autbot_Benz
05-18-2017, 12:44 PM
Archie ComicsVerified account @ArchieComics
BREAKING: #Riverdale is moving to Wednesday nights at 8pm on The CW starting this Fall! they are taking Arrow's timeslot
Raph's Girl
06-08-2017, 01:27 PM
The Berlanti-verse (yes Riverdale is a Berlanti show) returns Oct 9th - 12th!
http://tvline.com/2017/06/08/the-cw-premiere-dates-fall-2017-flash-riverdale/
TurtleWA
07-05-2017, 02:15 PM
I just finished binge watching the first season over the last few days. One of the actors looked familiar to me so I looked them up. Discovered they have a TMNT credit to their name. Haven't read this thread much so I am not sure if it's been pointed out before. Any guesses? Answer below in spoiler tag.
Skeet Ulrich aka FP Jones/Jughead's Dad
Candy Kappa
07-05-2017, 02:24 PM
Finished season 1, had like 5 episodes left when I stopped watching since the weekly wait was annoying, the show went on Norwegian Netflix like a regular TV show.
Man, was this not like the old comic :lol: the color palette still makes me anticipate werewolves or vampires to pop up any second.
raph27
07-05-2017, 05:05 PM
Just finished the first season on Netflix a few days ago. I was worried it might have a lot of teen melodrama, but this show blew me away. Great first season. I'm glad it's getting a full sized season next year instead of just 13 episodes.
TurtleWA
07-05-2017, 05:55 PM
Yeah it hooked me too. I only have Netflix & Hulu so I'll have to wait until season 2 finishes its run on Cable to watch it. But I like watching back-2-back episodes so that's fine.
Question: Do you think...
Veronica's dad had Archie's dad shot?
raph27
07-06-2017, 06:34 PM
Question: Do you think...
Veronica's dad had Archie's dad shot?
I feel like that would be too obvious. I'm betting they will want the 'who shot Fred/who hired the goon to shoot him' to be the 'who killed Jason Blossom' of season 2, and after so much suspicion was thrown at Hiram in season 1 about Jason, I doubt they'd do it again. I guess we'll see.
Another crazy theory I had: I don't remember how old the shooter was,
but I'm pretty sure he was on the younger side. What if the shooter was Betty's secret brother?
TurtleWA
07-06-2017, 07:08 PM
I feel like that would be too obvious. I'm betting they will want the 'who shot Fred/who hired the goon to shoot him' to be the 'who killed Jason Blossom' of season 2, and after so much suspicion was thrown at Hiram in season 1 about Jason, I doubt they'd do it again. I guess we'll see.
Another crazy theory I had: I don't remember how old the shooter was,
but I'm pretty sure he was on the younger side. What if the shooter was Betty's secret brother?
Yeah I was thinking it was a little obvious too. And do they really want a whodunit thing similar to the first season. I would think switch it up some. That's a very cool theory of yours about Betty's brother, and a good way to introduce Betty's brother. I like it. Fred seems the most upstanding of all the parents so it will be interesting to see if he has more flaws that somehow get connected to the shooting.
Shark_Blade
07-06-2017, 10:44 PM
Maybe Fred will die and Archie's mom going to be a permanent resident there? I saw pic of her on set
https://mobile.twitter.com/ArchieComics/status/879440730397310976/photo/1
Slade
08-10-2017, 12:40 AM
Ha, spoilers. I ain't clicking them!
I just started watching this the other night. It's way better than I thought it would be. Not far into it yet, think going on 5th episode. Good show.
Shark_Blade
08-10-2017, 04:05 AM
Good news for you, Season 2 is coming in 2 months. :D
Slade
08-10-2017, 03:16 PM
I know! I'll probably be through with 1st season this weekend.
ZariusTwo
09-21-2017, 01:27 PM
Apa had a very chilling adventure on the way back from filming, he was involved in a car crash, he fell asleep at the wheel having been working for sixteen hours straight
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/riverdale-star-late-night-car-crash-working-16-hour-day-1041899?utm_source=twitter
Candy Kappa
09-21-2017, 01:33 PM
holy crap, good thing no one got seriously hurt in the accident or worse.
Shark_Blade
09-21-2017, 07:03 PM
Hope he's alright. Don't they have drivers for the cast?
TheCanadiandrome
09-22-2017, 06:43 PM
Hope he's alright. Don't they have drivers for the cast?
You’d think or wonder where his brain was at, tired or not
Andrew NDB
10-01-2018, 02:31 AM
Just saw the first episode. Damn. Compelling. Well written and casted.
Shark_Blade
10-01-2018, 10:15 AM
Welcome to this series, Season 1 is still my fav so far. :D
Can't wait for Season 3 premiering October 10th.
Andrew NDB
11-16-2018, 06:41 PM
Welcome to this series, Season 1 is still my fav so far. :D
Can't wait for Season 3 premiering October 10th.
I'm in the middle of season 2 already. I don't know what it is... I can't stop watching it. It's edgy, smart and hip without being too SJW. And the Veronica, Cherry, and Betty actresses (probably in that order) are fairly mesmerizing.
Shark_Blade
11-16-2018, 08:27 PM
Yep, they have pretty strong females without bringing down the males mains. I’m on Season 3 now, the latest episode is possibly the best one yet. :D
Oh and congrats Riverdale on the recent win for People’s Choice Awards - Drama Show of the Year 2018! :tlove:
http://imgur.com/9MZYR7d.jpg
Slade
11-30-2018, 01:01 AM
Anyone caught up? This new stuff is crazy. I cringe a lot more with the show now than when I first started watching.
Andrew NDB
11-30-2018, 01:24 AM
Anyone caught up? This new stuff is crazy. I cringe a lot more with the show now than when I first started watching.
What happened? I watched the first episode of this season but am caught up to that point.
Andrew NDB
12-07-2018, 12:51 AM
I'm all caught up! Just watched the latest episode of season 3.
There better be something legitimately supernatural going on the way they're throwing stuff around. If this Gargoyle King business ends up being 100% Scooby Doo, I'll be pissed.
Either way, Hiram Lodge is definitely not the Gargoyle King. Way too telegraphed.
Fight club stuff in juvie with Archie was just so random and impossible, yet it was great.
ZariusTwo
02-01-2019, 07:15 AM
The Katy Keene spin off is set years after Riverdale has ended
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/01/31/katy-keene-riverdale-kiley/
Andrew NDB
10-07-2019, 12:08 PM
Trailer for season 4:
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Sounds like the opening episode will be a Luke Perry tribute, basically, and Shannen Doherty will guest star.
Shark_Blade
10-08-2019, 07:18 AM
Okay I didn’t expect Choni to dress up as Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy. Wowza.
Fred’s funeral gonna be sad and bittersweet tho. :tsad:
Shark_Blade
10-10-2019, 05:36 PM
4x01 was such an emotional episode.
When Shannen appeared in the episode, I didn’t know who she was - thought she’s his real life daughter or wife. After googling, found out that she and Luke were apparently a super famous couple in the 90s from a show called Beverly Hills 90210. Learnt something new
Riverdale says goodbye to Luke Perry with special episode featuring Shannen Doherty
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/riverdale-says-goodbye-to-luke-perry-with-special-episode-featuring-shannen-doherty/news-story/29dd8a490359217ce040e9ed58dc136a
Andrew NDB
10-10-2019, 06:04 PM
It was a moving episode. It was well done.
Andrew NDB
02-18-2020, 11:03 AM
So... Jughead is dead?
Andrew NDB
02-29-2020, 09:54 PM
Annnnnd now Archie's mom is a lesbian? Only one episode since Jughead "died"... yet his mom drops the lesbian bombshell this episode and keeps bringing it up.
oldmanwinters
02-29-2020, 09:56 PM
So... Jughead is dead?
I always figured the burgers would do him in eventually.
Shark_Blade
03-02-2020, 01:11 AM
I doubt Jughead’s dead, it could be that he’s narrating his novel all along for the competition and it’s all in his head. :DAnnnnnd now Archie's mom is a lesbian? Only one episode since Jughead "died"... yet his mom drops the lesbian bombshell this episode and keeps bringing it up.
It’s a bit bizarre but we now know why Fred Andrews and her were living separately lol.
Andrew NDB
03-12-2020, 11:05 AM
Production halted due to Coronavirus:
https://www.darkhorizons.com/riverdale-halts-production-over-coronavirus/
ZariusTwo
03-12-2020, 11:57 AM
Production halted due to Coronavirus
Who needs a looming writer's strike when you have this?
Shark_Blade
11-16-2020, 10:40 PM
People's Choice Awards: Riverdale Wins Drama Show of 2020 & Male TV Star 2020 (Cole Sprouse)
https://twitter.com/madchenamick/status/1328544992462159872?s=21
https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/peoples-choice-awards-drama-show-2020-riverdale/
Shark_Blade
02-04-2021, 05:45 AM
#Riverdale has been RENEWED for Season 6!
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/walker-renewed-season-2-cw-flash-riverdale-legends-of-tomorrow-1234899745/
Andrew NDB
02-07-2021, 04:55 AM
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I hope my suspicion is right. That being, this season's thing is that the Riverdale characters find themselves in some kind of future... that ends up actually being an alternate one, brought on by some kind of magic. Most of the future stuff they show in the trailers seem harmless enough... but would they really want to invent a fictional war that Archie would fight in? Seems fishy. Like, probably it isn't real.
And then, enter: Sabrina.
The fact that the showrunners already said the plan for Sabrina season 5 would have involved Riverdale in the "Witch War" suggests something like this may have always been in play.
Shark_Blade
02-07-2021, 07:36 AM
You might be on to something though.
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina star Kiernan Shipka keen on reprising role for Riverdale
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a35436686/chilling-adventures-of-sabrina-kiernan-shipka-riverdale/
Andrew NDB
02-07-2021, 07:40 AM
You might be on to something though.
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina star Kiernan Shipka keen on reprising role for Riverdale
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a35436686/chilling-adventures-of-sabrina-kiernan-shipka-riverdale/
And also that every Riverdale season has the "big twist." They've never gone full-on supernatural (though they teased it last season with that tree king thing)... but given it is Archie, it has its roots already in place with Sabrina. And those roots have supernatural written all over them.
I'd honestly love nothing more than to see Kiernan join the cast as a full-on foil for Betty and Veronica. Though also I'd kind of feel like it'd be a little beneath her? My hope is for at least a good 3 or 4 episode run.
ZariusTwo
02-07-2021, 11:48 AM
Nick Spencer's brief run on the Archie reboot had Archie dating Sabrina.
ZariusTwo
05-02-2021, 09:22 AM
The current season resumes in August
https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/a35939988/when-does-riverdale-season-five-return-finale/
Slade
05-02-2021, 04:51 PM
I need to catch up, but I'm not really liking this future stuff.
Honestly, I hate this show. It's so damn cringe, but I keep freaking watching it.:lol:
Leo656
05-02-2021, 05:22 PM
My wife wants me to watch it and I'm like "Newp." :lol: She's only seen a little bit of it but she's like "It's kinda like Twin Peaks, though!" and I'm like "Eh, still don't care."
Depending on who you are, the very concept of a "Dark, Gritty, Sexed-Up Reboot" of the goddamn Archie universe is either the most brilliant or most completely f*cking stupid idea you've ever heard of. And I have to say that I count myself in the latter category pretty firmly.
I mean what the f*ck next, a Fraggle Rock reboot where Boober and Gobo are smoking crack and running a train on Red, while Mokey's in the bathroom shooting up? Jesus. Who the hell thinks of this kinda sh*t? I don't know, man.
Slade
05-02-2021, 05:56 PM
Oh there's no doubt it's beyond stupid. I'd say it's so ridiculous that it's too CW for even the CW. I just keep coming back to see what happens, like the car wreck I can't pull my eyes from.
Leo656
05-02-2021, 06:06 PM
I do confess that it's been a lifelong dream of mine to see Betty and Veronica chow down on each other. :lol: But part of me feels like that kinda sh*t needs to stay locked within the recesses of my own horrific imagination and not be made "official", nah'mean? :lol:
I feel like the world is in a dark place when the stuff me and my buddies used to joke about "Y'know what'd be f*cked up, though?" actually gets to be brought to life. Pretty soon we're gonna have Rainbow Brite workin' a stripper pole. And y'know, I just don't think the world needs to sink to my level with that kinda sh*t.
Slade
05-02-2021, 06:36 PM
:lol: :lol: I'm sure you can find a "parody" out there somewhere. Hell I might even have to look that up myself. Research purposes and all that :lol:
Leo656
05-02-2021, 06:38 PM
While I have you, it's great to see you posting more often again. I know we've got FB but this place needs more Good Eggs like you's.
Slade
05-02-2021, 07:48 PM
Yeah I been trying. There's barely much around that keeps my interest. Especially to get me vocal about it.
Andrew NDB
05-02-2021, 07:53 PM
I need to catch up, but I'm not really liking this future stuff.
Honestly, I hate this show. It's so damn cringe, but I keep freaking watching it.:lol:
The first two seasons had a lot of effectively provocative stuff that I dug. Now they're just treading water. "It's 5 years later!" is the latest thing. 5 years later, but within about the first 3 episodes everybody is basically back to being who they were 5 years before. They barely touched on the Archie-Betty thing before abandoning it. Cheryl Blossom has been completely ruined, and never utilized as the "third" to sway the "will he end up with Betty? will he end up with Veronica?" debate she was always created to be. And then what they did to poor bastards like Moose... shesus...
Slade
05-02-2021, 08:51 PM
Gah, I hate everything they do with Cheryl :roll:
Hell Veronica gets on my damn nerves too. I am wondering about this alien abduction business they seem to have going on. But yeah, it's def the most CWest show I've ever seen.
Andrew NDB
11-18-2021, 02:21 AM
Saw the season 6 opener. Not bad in itself but... it's all "Rivervale" with alternate reality characters and not Riverdale in this one so why waste time on this and who gives af? It's just a strange "what if?" story atm. When Sabrina shows up it better not still be "Rivervale" and it better not just all be swept under the rug when she leaves, like she was never there at all.
TMNTFanatic4Life
11-18-2021, 07:54 AM
I didn’t think they would actually go through with killing Archie but props to them for going through with it. I thought it would be just to scare him and let him go at the last second or someone not influenced by Cherry’s supernatural touch would swoop in and save Archie. Now, I doubt it’s permanent and he gets brought back to life when they’re out of this Rivervale reality.
My guess for this What If is that maybe it’s Sabrina that is behind it all to show Cheryl that too much Supernatural doings can go to your head and cause significant damage that can’t be always undone and that she should tone it down or she will lose herself….IDK
Andrew NDB
12-09-2021, 01:51 AM
So a big lesbian melodrama and "womankind" in fake realities and timelines... and a super tiny Sabrina cameo at the end. That's what all the hype has been about, it turns out.
Lame. Very lame. There was 0 reason to get excited about this.
Shark_Blade
12-09-2021, 02:56 AM
Ok so Abigail pretended to be Poppy, then Cheryl
Then Abigail's spirit moved into Nana Rose's body, who died
So Nana Rose is now in Abigail/Cheryl's body.
I’m still confused.
TMNTFanatic4Life
12-17-2021, 08:21 PM
This past episode was my favorite of the first 5. The Sabrina one was very disappointing but this one with the reveal of Riverdale Prime and Rivervale bleeding into each other with Jughead from each being the ones to save them both was pretty good. I almost expected him to say, ok what did Barry Allen do this time to the timeline!
Andrew NDB
12-17-2021, 08:28 PM
And Sabrina didn't even come to Riverdale... she came to Rivervale.
ZariusTwo
05-19-2022, 10:52 AM
Show ends with season seven
https://deadline.com/2022/05/riverdale-to-end-with-season-7-the-cw-1235027985/
Andrew NDB
05-19-2022, 10:58 AM
This could have gone for 10+ seasons if they played their cards right. Instead they surrendered to the same hack, woke writers rooms that destroyed Flash and Arrow's latter seasons.
superstaff
05-19-2022, 11:02 AM
This could have gone for 10+ seasons if they played their cards right. Instead they surrendered to the same hack, woke writers rooms that destroyed Flash and Arrow's latter seasons.
I really enjoyed the first season of Riverdale. I was pleasantly surprised by how great it was, actually, even with the undercurrent of cheesiness.
But I think the decline began in season 2, and the show's just gotten worse since. I don't think it was wokeness per say, just the same trap a lot of teen dramas fall into: love triangles, cheating, breaking up popular pairings for drama's sake, melodramatic subplots that take up way too much time, etc. I'm sure the show got its injection of wokeness eventually. I stopped with s2, so I don't know for sure. I've heard some really dumb crap about the later seasons, and it sounds awful. I really hated that they went all in with Archie/Betty. Yuck.
And did they actually kill Archie? Someone mentioned it in this thread. If true then wow. :lol:
TMNTFanatic4Life
05-19-2022, 11:16 AM
I really enjoyed the first season of Riverdale. I was pleasantly surprised by how great it was, actually, even with the undercurrent of cheesiness.
But I think the decline began in season 2, and the show's just gotten worse since. I don't think it was wokeness per say, just the same trap a lot of teen dramas fall into: love triangles, cheating, breaking up popular pairings for drama's sake, melodramatic subplots that take up way too much time, etc. I'm sure the show got its injection of wokeness eventually. I stopped with s2, so I don't know for sure. I've heard some really dumb crap about the later seasons, and it sounds awful. I really hated that they went all in with Archie/Betty. Yuck.
And did they actually kill Archie? Someone mentioned it in this thread. If true then wow. :lol:
They did but it was alternate universe stuff…he was killed in “Rivervale” but is alive and well when they went back to”Riverdale”
But I haven’t watched since the last episode in the Rivervale Arc so I know of nothing happening after that lol
ZariusTwo
05-19-2022, 11:27 AM
I really hated that they went all in with Archie/Betty. Yuck
I prefer those two over to Archie/Veronica, who I never thought would be a healthy endgame for the comics despite the never-ending triangle. All the stories told with them married in "Life With Archie" kind of borne that out. Archie and Betty have it much easier.
Andrew NDB
05-19-2022, 11:39 AM
I really enjoyed the first season of Riverdale. I was pleasantly surprised by how great it was, actually, even with the undercurrent of cheesiness.
It was great!
But I think the decline began in season 2, and the show's just gotten worse since. I don't think it was wokeness per say,
I do. Look what they did to Moose and Cheryl in the name of wokeness. Completely destroyed. Like, there isn't any salvaging these characters now and you can tell by how they're regarded now.
I really hated that they went all in with Archie/Betty. Yuck.
Why? That's what's supposed to happen. The "Will he pick Betty or Veronica?" thing has gone back decades. If anything, they put Betty on the back burner from Archie for way too long on the show.
And did they actually kill Archie? Someone mentioned it in this thread. If true then wow. :lol:
Sort of. They did a weird multi-dimensional thing where he got blown up but then un-blown up. I think they were trying to be like Twin Peaks for a minute but the writers weren't really up to the task.
superstaff
05-19-2022, 11:46 AM
Why? That's what's supposed to happen. The "Will he pick Betty or Veronica?" thing has gone back decades. If anything, they put Betty on the back burner from Archie for way too long on the show.
Because it was super predictable and forced. I felt that he and Betty lack any chemistry whatsoever (and tbh, I think that extends to the comics as well since they're both super bland together even in the originals, but at least there it's just a goofy comedy there so I don't really care about chemistry......but Riverdale is an actual mystery-drama show, so...). I think the show was much better when it mostly settled on Ronnie/Archie and Jughead/Betty, which I thought both pairings felt more natural and interesting than falling back on the tropes of the comics.
Sort of. They did a weird multi-dimensional thing where he got blown up but then un-blown up. I think they were trying to be like Twin Peaks for a minute but the writers weren't really up to the task.
Jesus Christ. These hacks really need to leave the David Lynching to David Lynch.
Andrew NDB
05-19-2022, 11:55 AM
Because it was super predictable and forced. I felt that he and Betty lack any chemistry whatsoever (and tbh, I think that extends to the comics as well since they're both super bland together even in the originals, but at least there it's just a goofy comedy there so I don't really care about chemistry......but Riverdale is an actual mystery-drama show, so...). I think the show was much better when it mostly settled on Ronnie/Archie and Jughead/Betty, which I thought both pairings felt more natural and interesting than falling back on the tropes of the comics.
Well, it'd be a bit like putting Lana Lang and Lois Lane on like a Smallville show but never having Clark get with Lois Lane. Though I guess the Jughead/Betty actor/actresses were dating in real life and when they split up is when they decided to send Betty over to Archie's camp on the show. But they should've done that anyway.
And I don't know about lack of chemistry. She's very pretty but I don't think the Betty actress is a particularly good actress. She kind of permanently has this expression on her face like, "What's my motivation? Can I get some direction here?" Everybody else is fine. And man, that Cheryl actress is super and multi-talented. It's really sad to see the way they simultaneously wasted her and destroyed her.
superstaff
05-19-2022, 11:59 AM
I prefer those two over to Archie/Veronica, who I never thought would be a healthy endgame for the comics despite the never-ending triangle. All the stories told with them married in "Life With Archie" kind of borne that out. Archie and Betty have it much easier.
For some reason I didn't see this comment until I refreshed the page. Weird.
Anyway, I kindly disagree. I can't attest to later Riverdale seasons, but I just really liked those two in season 1. In the comics, I just find their interactions to be more fun, and I think Archie really draws out the better side of Veronica in a lot of stories (and so does Betty, thus why I like Betty/Veronica as well :lol:), and she gets him to 'let loose'. I think they balance each other well.
As for the Life with Archie stuff...I found both Betty and Veronica's stuff disappointing overall, though I preferred the Varchie storyline. I dunno, I have a lot of mixed thoughts on those comics.
I can see why people might prefer Archie/Betty, mind you. I just don't think they're as interesting or fun as Archie/Veronica in the comics/show.
superstaff
05-19-2022, 12:02 PM
Well, it'd be a bit like putting Lana Lang and Lois Lane on like a Smallville show but never having Clark get with Lois Lane.
If it's written well, I'll take Clark/Lana in a story. In Smallville itself, Clark/Lana wasn't, and Clark/Lois had better chemistry and interactions there.
She's very pretty but I don't think the Betty actress is a particularly good actress. She kind of permanently has this expression on her face like, "What's my motivation? Can I get some direction here?" Everybody else is fine. And man, that Cheryl actress is super and multi-talented. It's really sad to see the way they simultaneously wasted her and destroyed her.
Lili Reinhart is talented, yes. So is Madelaine Petsch. It wasn't the acting that didn't sell me on the romances, it was the writing. Even the best actors in the world can't sell something that isn't properly 'baked' so to speak.
TMNTFanatic4Life
07-17-2022, 06:16 PM
I stopped watching after the last of the Rivervale episode but did catch the last new episode that used Sabrina much better. Definitely liked how she was used here vs how she was used earlier in the season.
Andrew NDB
07-17-2022, 07:01 PM
Oh, she came back? I'll check it out.
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