Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep19: "Turtles in Time"

[Machias Banshee]

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Well, it's been a long wait, but we're finally getting some new episodes. And we've got some real Doozies coming up.

Time travel has huge potential in this series. We could watch the past where Shredder and Splinter grew up as 'brothers', the romancing of Shen and the eventual rivalry and destruction of Splinter's home (and family).

We also get to see the images of Renet we've known for so many years finally come to life on the screen, albeit a bit younger.

How do the boys go back in time? Does Renet send them, or is it just a mistake?

And considering the butterfly effect, could something the boys do in the past change the future? What if Yoshi gets warned of Saki's attack, and sends away Shen and his daughter away to be safe? Would Yoshi change the outcome of the battle and completely change history? Could the turtles cease to exist?

Or could it all be a dream?! Who knows!

Stay tuned... just a lil longer!

[GoldMutant]

Pretty long wait, but all aboard the hype train! It's been a long time, but this is going to be great. :)

15 minutes until showtime, now if only I knew who was the voice of the promo. :ohwell:

[TurFlytle]

Pretty long wait, but all aboard the hype train! It's been a long time, but this is going to be great. :)

15 minutes until showtime, now if only I knew who was the voice of the promo. :ohwell:

Probably Lord Simultaneous or Savanti.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Am I the only one who's hoping the king will be played by someone by Game of Thrones?

[TurFlytle]

Who's idea was it to make ANOTHER alvin show? I hope it dies on the first season.

[saintsaucey]

Okay her mentioning billy the kid, gengis kahn and socrates has got to be a nod to bill and teds excellent adventure. I love that they are back in their mutants and montsers costumes.

The skeleton battle felt very clash of the titans inspired

The knights felt like a monty python refference

[TurFlytle]

So the cliffhanger sets up for Tales of the Yokai. No promo though...

[saintsaucey]

Who's idea was it to make ANOTHER alvin show? I hope it dies on the first season.

Alvin and the chipmonks are better than most of the junk they come up with but im not sure about this one.

[Vicky82]

I did enjoy this episode but couldn't focus on it because the livestream was really laggy. I have to watch it later.

Renet was awesome

[Chaotix12345]

Fun episode. Kinda disappointed that they didn't hop to at least ONE more time period, but with the next episode centering on Splinter's past and the Half-Shell Heroes special covering the Jurassic era, it didn't end up bothering me that much. Renet was pretty cute.

Also, Savanti Romero was played by Graham McTavish, Loki from The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes! Awesome to hear him again. :)

[TurFlytle]

Am I the only who thought it was cool that Mikey said Cowabunga again?

[NinjaPug]

IGN review:

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/08/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-turtles-in-time-review

[Foombamaroom]

Pretty great episode. I'm glad it ended on a cliffhanger, but it also makes me mad that this and Tale of the Yokai isn't an hour special. Ah well, can't wait for next Sunday. Anyone else bugged that there wasn't any promo for next week? Also, every scene with Raph and the horse had me laughing really hard.

[Vicky82]

IGN review:

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/08/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-turtles-in-time-review

Already, usually it's up like 2 hours later.

8.7 great score.

[PangolinFeets]

That was fun!!
I can't wait for more Renet. She was a perfect blend of cute and badass.

I thought it was interesting that it started with them talking about getting Karai back. You think the key to curing her will be found in the past?

[aliena]

Was that Dragon Lord's voice? It sure sounded a lot like him. I'm a huge fan of Savanti and this version did not disappoint. I hope we see him again.

I really loved everything about this episode. The opening scene when Leo is pining for Karai and the guys talk about it. Notice Mikey told Donnie that he knew he still liked April. Still liked as in at some point Donnie said he didn't like her romantically anymore? Guess we missed that.

I loved it when Donnie hugged Renet and Mikey got in his face. Mikey was so extra cool in this episode. I do like romantic Mikey and I think they did a good job with that. It was great to see the LARP costumes again and to see them riding horses. Wish Raph had more to do other than be afraid of the horse.

Leo jousting was amazing and he actually won. It will be interesting to see them in feudal Japan. Is there a chance we'll see Usagi?

[Foombamaroom]

I really liked how they didn't make Renet into too much of a bumbling, clumsy character like they did in the 2003 show.

[yellowmario27]

I won't be able to watch the episode till next time it comes on..was busy today :/

but a few questions!

1. is the next episode going to be a continuation?
2. is mikey's crush one sided or does renet have feelings towards him too?

[zaktheneutrino]

Great episode! I thought Savanti Romero and Renet looked awesome. The darker tone during the skeleton fight scene was so good and I love how the writers can get away with this stuff. Heads flying off skeletons and having them walk in a creepy, almost Pirates of the Caribbean way was very enjoyable! Honestly I wish we had like three more episodes of time traveling. Next week's episode sounds so good too!

[JonesyKitty]

I was so pissed last night because I thought I was going to miss this episode because of work and it's the one I've been waiting for, Renet is one of my absolute favorite characters from the Mirage books and I have been so excited to see this version of her since they revealed her at comic con way back. Well some things came up and I ended up getting the day off so I am soooko excited to watch this today with my son! :tgrin:

[drgon78]

Great episode, I really do like Rennet though April is still my favorite female character.

[Leofan26]

So guess we have confirmation that Donnie's over his crush on April? It looked that way to me the entire season.

[OrangeNinja1987]

A really fun episode. I enjoyed it a lot even though it didn't make a ton of sense. Renet punching the time loop stopped it? How did Renet know exactly what their LARP costumes looked like?
Raph and the horse was hilarious. Probably some of the best jokes, but there weren't many in this one. Donnie doing an English accent was funny, too.
I actually thought Mikey's crush was done well. I can't tell if Renet really likes him back or is just being nice. But Mikey did get a kiss in the fist episode he met Renet, and Donnie took over a whole season. And Leo's never had one. But I'm a bit confused at why the other turtles don't think it's weird that Leo still likes Karai, since she's technically their adoptive sister.
On the same note, what Mikey said about Donnie's crush on April this episode didn't make me think he didn't like her anymore, though it sounds like some people did. I just think Donnie's learned to leave her alone for now and let her decide when their lives aren't as hectic.
Loved the skeleton fight. Leo's finishing blow on that skeleton, where he just slammed into it out of nowhere, was pretty awesome.
I liked the mentioning of Karai, for continuity's sake.
My only real problem with this episode was Savanti. I haven't read the Mirage comics with him and haven't seen him in 2k3 yet (I'm watching it for the first time and starting season 3 soon), so this was the first time seeing him. And he was pretty disappointing. I had no idea what his motivations were and there was no backstory on him (besides saying he was a mutant. What?). For someone who could control time and space, he didn't seem like much of threat for the whole episode. His time loop could be punched out. Without the staff, he's not very threatening. Those gold bubbles he trapped the turtles and Renet in could apparently have been broken with any of their weapons, since all Renet used was a dart. Erg. Didn't like Savanti. There were probably a million ways he could have defeated the turtles in three seconds, such as zapping them so far back in time that earth and its atmosphere doesn't exist yet.
Anyway, fairly solid episode. I'm more excited for t Tale of the Yokai. I thought the ending of this episode was interesting. They appeared in Japan close to a big city, but then were surrounded by ninja. I'm hoping this episode explains why there are still whole clans of practicing ninja in modern Japan, and so close to a city. I'd at least think they'd be in a rural area.
And I wonder when the world starts recognizing that the turtles have saved it multiple times and puts them in history books like Renet said.
And don't you just think it's convenient that in most time travel stories, the characters are also sent to the exact area they need to be in that period, rather than just the place they were already in but just in another time? Maybe Renet has the capability to choose the spot to land as well, but she didn't when they were zapped to Japan and they still ended up near ninja.

[Vicky82]

Just watched it again, it was a awesome episode.

The visual effects and score were great.
Loved Renet, she kicked ass. She's a lot better than 2K3 Renet.
Donnie's english accent was funny.
Awesome seeing Turtles ride horses, I loved that Mikey and Renet was sharing a horse.
Lol Raph doesn't like horses.
Loved the fight scene in the graveyard and at the end.
Donnie using the Time Septer was cool.
I like that the episode ended on a cliffhanger, we need more episodes like that.
I loved Mikey's crush, it was adorable and was written really well, it was a lot better than Donnie's crush.
I think Renet must have feelings for him too.

My favourite moment in the episode was this.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/96095456c4652f049a37d41323da125b/tumblr_nsgq4g9XEV1uvgne4o2_400.jpg

:D

[ToTheNines]

Savanti's voice actor was also Loki in Avengers EMH. Very cool.

[Leofan26]

I like Rent more than April so far. I'm glad we got confirmation that Donnie's over his crush on April, that makes me so happy :D

The fight scene was awesome, loved Leo's move.

I can't wait for next weeks episode more than any thing, we didn't get a promo for it yet eh?

[TigerClaw]

It was a good episode, I'm glad to see it that it's not a one episode story, so we will get to see more time travel in other episodes.

And for the first time ever, Mikey gets kissed. lol

and judging from the cliffhanger The Turtles end up in a time when Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki were younger.

[Ninturtle]

I like Rent more than April so far. I'm glad we got confirmation that Donnie's over his crush on April, that makes me so happy :D

The fight scene was awesome, loved Leo's move.

I can't wait for next weeks episode more than any thing, we didn't get a promo for it yet eh?

I'm not a fan of rent and perfer living in places where I don't have to pay to live in.

[cartooncrazy4]

[QUOTE=Leofan26;1489639]I like Rent more than April so far. I'm glad we got confirmation that Donnie's over his crush on April, that makes me so happy


I'm not trying start an argument or anything but donnie never confirmed that he was over April all he did was make a face a mikey when he said he still had a crush on her :/ unless you mean he toned down on his crush

[BabyTurtles]

Well Renet is 1000% better than April. (from what I can tell so far)

I liked her future brass knuckles.

[Autbot_Benz]

Loved the Army of Darkness reference with all the armored skeletons. Also Renet is Basically The Doctor with a time staff.

[Cure]

I like how Michelangelo was just straight up like "hey, are we on a date? Let's go on a date". Donatello can learn a thing or two.

[JonesyKitty]

Loved the Army of Darkness reference with all the armored skeletons. Also Renet is Basically The Doctor with a time staff.

So I wasn't the only one who thought of AoD? But yeah this episode was pretty freakin badass! I absolutely love how the handled Renet, she was cute and funny and ditzy but not an idiot. I can't wait for the next episode :tgrin:

[Allio]

Oh boy I can't wait for more romero in the future -_-

[IndigoErth]

Very cute episode, loved Mikey and Renet there near the end. Very glad to see this version of Renet is pretty cool and kind of a butt kicker, rather than the obnoxious airhead route. Slightly ditzy as been mentioned, but I like that it's made very light and minor.

[saintsaucey]

So I wasn't the only one who thought of AoD? But yeah this episode was pretty freakin badass! I absolutely love how the handled Renet, she was cute and funny and ditzy but not an idiot. I can't wait for the next episode :tgrin:

AoD?????????

[BubblyShell22]

This episode was awesome. Loved the fight scenes and how Mikey declared he was never going to crush on a girl, but then he saw Renet and that changed. I love Renet so far and think she's awesome. At least she doesn't have an annoying Valley Girl accent like 2K3 Renet did, and she's definitely good at kicking butt when she needs to be. Raph and the horse was great as well as the mention of Karai and how Leo is still pining for her. I thought Savanti was fine and can't wait to see more of him. Best part was the end where they ended up in Japan. I love how they ended it on a cliffhanger. And when my mom was watching it with me she asked, "Are those the Foot?" I said, "I don't know, but they don't look too friendly." And it was funny when they were fighting the skeletons and my mom yelled, "All you have to do is slice them up!" and then Leo sort of did that. Overall, a very decent episode, and I can't wait for the next one.

Edit: AOD stands for Army of Darkness.

[tmntfanuk]

Well... it was okay. Looking forward to next episode though! :D

[PangolinFeets]

Lol @ everyone mentioning every skeleton fight in cinema that came after Jason and the Argonauts. They are armored like AoD skeletons, but even that is based on JatA.
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I'd have to watch it again to see if the skeleton shields in the episode correlate with the ones from JatA, but its possible.



Also, what is the dialogue exchange that is making everyone think Don is over April? I didn't get that.

[drgon78]

I don't see any proof that Donnie is over April at all. Though the Turtles traveling through time might alter current events or show possible futures that have to do with April, the Turtles, Karai, etc.

[BubblyShell22]

There isn't any proof as Don didn't outright admit it. He just made a face at Mikey when Mikey alluded to the crush.

[neatoman]

So why did they decide to keep the floating head illusion when they quite clearly showed Simultaneous true form in a flashback?

[TurtleTitan97]

Great episode. Really liked this version of Renet, she was awesome.

[TurFlytle]

So why did they decide to keep the floating head illusion when they quite clearly showed Simultaneous true form in a flashback?

I dunno, maybe he'll actually appear in "Tales of the Yokai". It makes sense when you think about it. You can't have Lord Simultaneous appear without having his classic design. I mean, Renet and Savanti (forgetting the stupid mutant bull****) were mostly kept the same.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised how similar Renet and Savanti were to their Mirage and 4kids counterparts, usually old characters are very different when they debut in this show. Their personalities were great and loved the skeleton fight.

[OrangeNinja1987]

I really liked the fight at the end in all the gears, but it could have been even better. It could have been really similar to the ending clock tower fight in the movie The Great Mouse Detective, which is extremely epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayTXmzgtaZs

Anyway, I've already mentioned the episode is a lot of fun, but that's about it. I didn't take Mikey's line about April like Donnie was over her at all.
And why did they say Savanti was a mutant? I don't have much experience with the character but I don't think he is in other versions. Are the Kraang still mutating things in the future? :ohwell:

[SophieDem]

Raphael and horses... :D That's all I have to say. This episode is AWESOME!

I loved Renet and Wizard Donatello.

[neatoman]

I dunno, maybe he'll actually appear in "Tales of the Yokai". It makes sense when you think about it. You can't have Lord Simultaneous appear without having his classic design. I mean, Renet and Savanti (forgetting the stupid mutant bull****) were mostly kept the same.

I wasn't really that bothered by the mention of Savanti being a mutant, seeing how the original story mentioned how Savanti's demonic appearence was a punishment by Simultaneous.

It is a weird change though, that and the mention that Renet is from the future rather than a dimension void of time. Eh, whatever, maybe children would be confused over mixing time and alternate dimensions?

A change I didn't like was that Renet grabbed the Time Scepter to stop Savanti, instead of just taking it to play with it. Some people might think of her as too selfish if they did it that way but I consider it to be kind of important to Renet's character.

[kelligrafie]

I really liked the fight at the end in all the gears, but it could have been even better. It could have been really similar to the ending clock tower fight in the movie The Great Mouse Detective, which is extremely epic.

Glad I'm not the only person who thought that. Unfortunately that film doesn't get as much credit as its fellow Disney counterparts, which is a real shame.

It made me laugh how Mikey's attempt to hook up with Renet went better on this one occasion that all of Donnie and Leo's attempts with Karai and April put together. Sweet, sincere and surprisingly uncringeworthy.

Find it a bit weird though that Raph can bond with pigeons and a tortoise but has issues with horses.

[JTH]

There isn't any proof as Don didn't outright admit it. He just made a face at Mikey when Mikey alluded to the crush.

Plus to me, there's a big difference between "I don't have a crush anymore." and "I don't like her anymore." If people are trying to believe that Donnie doesn't like April anymore is completing preposterous. I know "Deadly Venom" aired a while ago, but that was just the episode before, and Donnie looked really freaking desperate to try and save her. Sure didn't look like someone that had no emotional investment in another character.

Furthermore, I think it's crazy to assume this upcoming "Creeping" episode won't have any kind of Donnie/April scene during Donnie's little...predicament.

[IndigoErth]

And why did they say Savanti was a mutant? I don't have much experience with the character but I don't think he is in other versions. Are the Kraang still mutating things in the future? :ohwell:
Yeah, that caught me off guard. :-? I always figured he was more akin to being some demon-type thing.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, that caught me off guard. :-? I always figured he was more akin to being some demon-type thing.

No, he was a human in Mirage and he was mutated into his devil form by Lord Simulatenous for trying to steal the time scepter.

[PangolinFeets]

Furthermore, I think it's crazy to assume this upcoming "Creeping" episode won't have any kind of Donnie/April scene during Donnie's little...predicament.

If I don't get at least one, "NARF" or "Point!" out of that episode, I will be severely disappointed.

[kelligrafie]

Feeling so fake for missing the Genghis/Billy/Socrates Bill & Ted reference, especially as I'm currently wearing a Bill & Ted t-shirt. My bad.

[IndigoErth]

No, he was a human in Mirage and he was mutated into his devil form by Lord Simulatenous for trying to steal the time scepter.
Ah, thanks for the info.

[kelligrafie]

When the knight said 'Egad!" in response to Donnie's attempt at an English accent, was it possibly a sly reference to Pinky? "Egad Brain."

[VaughnMichael]

Fantastic episode, it's a nice change from the mutant of the week format and the Shredder Karai stuff.

[Technogeek29]

Fantastic episode, it's a nice change from the mutant of the week format and the Shredder Karai stuff.

Very much agreed. I swear I've heard Savanti's voice before?

[Autbot_Benz]

Very much agreed. I swear I've heard Savanti's voice before?

Savanti was voiced by Graham Mctavish who played Dwalin the dwarf in the hobbit movies and Loki in Avengers EMH

[Mew]

Fantastic episode, it's a nice change from the mutant of the week format and the Shredder Karai stuff.
I share this same opinion.

[Technogeek29]

Savanti was voiced by Graham Mctavish who played Dwalin the dwarf in the hobbit movies and Loki in Avengers EMH

Thanks knew he sound familiar.

[Foombamaroom]

Was I the only one digging the music during the fight with Savanti at the end? I mean, the whole episode had a great score, but that end song in particular was great.

[TheCollector]

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.

[TurFlytle]

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.

Says the person who's a Karai fan and has Karai on the profile pic and sig.

[victory_angel]

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.

I didn't see it as that way. I mean yeah Raph might deem her a lost cause. And Donnie has legitimate reasons as to why she shouldn't be trusted. But at the same time they have other pressing concerns then just Karai. They do have the Shredder and whatever he's planning as well.

So while they were saying they should let her go, they weren't saying she should be forsaken completely. They were saying Karai isn't what we should be focusing on right now.

[Luckyday]

Too late to give some light thoughts on today episode? Too bad, I'm going to write them any way.

This was okay episode. Pretty much all of the new characters from Renet to Lord Simultaneous was done straight from the mirage comics with little to no deviation done towards them although that's not exactly a bad thing since these characters are hardly shown in other tv adaptations with exception of the 2k3 series, but honestly had I closed my eyes and not question why turtles sound so different, I would have thought that this was a 2k3 episode.

On other thoughts, Savanti was a typical mustache twirling bad guy but for once that type of simple archetype actually worked well for this episode because the tone of it was just goofy enough to not feel out of place. If the writing is not going to be serious/complex then it helps to have simple characters.

Now on to Renet. I think she was sorta okay. These are light thoughts so I am not entirely sure on what to say on her exactly. I need to see more of Renet to give a real opinion.

The only thing that I can say is that I didn't really understand her reason to go to the twenty first century. I know she's a fan girl and all but would it made more sense to go a time frame to when the turtles are grown warriors that already had the experience of defeating Savanti?

Anyway time lord logic aside, the attraction between Renet and Mikey was a little annoying and in your face at times, but it was refreshing that the writers lay ground work on why these two would be attracted to each other in the first place instead of you-know-what. Yay for the writers for not being lazy!

Now for the next episode if I can just see evidence that Splinter's dad really did in fact favored Shredder over Splinter as the good son then it would prove that my parallel family dynamic theory was right on the money.

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.

I miss that part in the beginning but seriously? WTF. On the other hand, were there any scene prior that had shown them discovering that she was brain washed? If not it would explain why they would think that she's a lost cause if they thought that she did it on her free will. With that free will being to poison them one by one?

[TheCollector]

I didn't see it as that way. I mean yeah Raph might deem her a lost cause. And Donnie has legitimate reasons as to why she shouldn't be trusted. But at the same time they have other pressing concerns then just Karai. They do have the Shredder and whatever he's planning as well.

So while they were saying they should let her go, they weren't saying she should be forsaken completely. They were saying Karai isn't what we should be focusing on right now.

But it's like I said, if it'd been one of them or April there wouldn't be anything they'd focus on first.

[marcelangelo]

hey guys, just watched the new episode...and I LOVED it!woah, this felt really good I must say!in the beginning I was entertained by the brothers just goofing off and talking relationships in the roof after spending who knows how much time looking out for karai.then when the issue #8 story started to break loose I was a little sad that we wouldn't enjoy cerebus along for the ride...but the episode really really made up for that loss in my opinion.it felt adventurous, loved the humour in it...haha donnie faking an accent was really funny I thought.the über-creepy cemetery scene with the undead was incredible fun!and beautifully designed and executed, don't you think?
in general what really stood out to me about turtles in time was that there seemed to be so much less repetitiveness in the animation, there were a lot of great visual decisions in terms of camera angles (cemetery scene, romero's castle etc..) and dynamic story telling..the fight scenes felt nice and fresh!..I really liked today's episode I must say.and the epilogue in the end??WOAH!!I cannot WAIT for next sunday!great ending!!!
edit: I noticed michael chang wrote this one, he also made the first episode two parter and some others...all very enjoyable to me...

[Foombamaroom]

ut honestly had I closed my eyes and not question why turtles sounded so different, I would have thought that this was a 2k3 episode.

I felt this, too, and I loved it. The Raph and the horse dynamic reminded me of 2003. The humor in this episode was fantastic, tbh. If they wrote it more like this permanently, I'd be so happy.

But it's like I said, if it'd been one of them or April there wouldn't be anything they'd focus on first.

If it were one of the Turtles, of course they'd make that their main priority. How could you expect them not to? If it was April, well, it could be argued that April's a bigger part of their family than Karai. Karai spent most of seasons 1 and 2 as an adversary, and she's not in her right mind for season 3. Plus, if they take out Shredder, there's a good chance they could get Karai back. They're not forsaking her completely, they're just saying that they need to focus on more important tasks.

[Ursalink]

I believe the Time Scepter will be the key of something I have been suspecting. Maybe Tang Shen will be brought back to life with it after the Shredder's attack, and then the turtles will bring her back to the future. That way, history is preserved and a tragedy solved.

[TLP]

That was a really good episode. LOVED Renet. She had a great personality, and was an adorable badass.

Savanti...he was kind of a procrastinating idiot. I'm sure someone already pointed this out, but he could have very easily wiped the turtles and Renet from existence if he wasn't too busy trying to make up his mind on what he wanted to do. Though it probably would have put the writers in a very tight corner.

[Foombamaroom]

I believe the Time Scepter will be the key of something I have been suspecting. Maybe Tang Shen will be brought back to life with it after the Shredder's attack, and then the turtles will bring her back to the future. That way, history is preserved and a tragedy solved.

Definitely not. As soon as they save Tang Shen, the Turtles would be erased from history because Shen would obviously want to see her daughter/husband. It'd alter the whole timeline. Plus, we already know that this coming episode is going to spark the rage in the Turtles to take out Shredder once and for all.

[matteso586]

A thought occurred to me. What if Savanti reappears through a loose adaptation of 2k3's The Return of Savanti?

[Ursalink]

Definitely not. As soon as they save Tang Shen, the Turtles would be erased from history because Shen would obviously want to see her daughter/husband. It'd alter the whole timeline. Plus, we already know that this coming episode is going to spark the rage in the Turtles to take out Shredder once and for all.

They save Tang Shen, but she stays knocked out until the turtles return to the future.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Sweeeeeet episode! I had been dying for them to find a way to get the Turtles to Japan. I can't wait for this to play out. This whole time travel thing would be a great way to work Usagi in too. I know that's probably never gonna happen with this one but a guy can dream I suppose. Also the music in this episode was really good. Especially during the graveyard fight.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

So I wasn't the only one who thought of AoD? But yeah this episode was pretty freakin badass! I absolutely love how the handled Renet, she was cute and funny and ditzy but not an idiot. I can't wait for the next episode :tgrin:

No. I thought of it too. Also I thought of Ghosts and Goblins during that fight.

[IndigoErth]

They save Tang Shen, but she stays knocked out until the turtles return to the future.
If anything, they'd have to save her in a way that she and Yoshi would both be under the impression that the other died in the fire, so Yoshi is still encouraged to flee to NYC. Though it would be too easy to find each other either coming to look through the rubble or simply via relatives.

Doubt she'll be saved though, and it's so risky for the Turtles to do so. Would be noble of them to choose to give Yoshi, Tang Shen, and Karai back the lives they would have otherwise lived, but the Turtles are needed in the world. Maybe though we'd see them struggle with wanting to save her but knowing they just can't.

If anything, I could see them saving Karai from Shredder after Yoshi has left Japan. Save her and leave her on the doorstep of her other relatives, that way she grows up safe and everything that has happened to her now will be erased. (Instant mind control/snake cure.) Shredder's beef with Yoshi would remain intact so Yoshi still has reason to leave for NYC.

(Come to think of it... Arrogant, unforgiving, and impatient, Shredder just doesn't seem like the fatherly sort who'd handle a kid easily. I kinda want to see him trying to deal with a screaming baby at 2am. :lol:)

[Klunk1234]

Loved this episode. Renet was great, not so clumsy. Mikey crush on her was cute. I like when the Turtles fight Savanti Romero and against those skeleton army. I can't wait for the next episode when the boys are in Japan.

[CyberCubed]

The forest/woods at the beginning was the same set from the Northampton episodes. You can tell they're trying to get their money's worth of making that forest by putting it in so many episodes.

[Powder]

Renet is absolutely perfect, probably my favorite version of the character, now. Savanti was handled well too, though I've never cared much for him. Still gets me hype to see Mirage stuff used & embraced by new fans, though! Nice to see some new sets & random character models, skeleton grunts, horses, knights, etc, adds a bit of flavor. Coulda done without the LARP costumes (just because I feel like it was done at Playmates' insistence rather than it being an organic creative decision, though I could definitely see it being one just the same AND I do like Raph/Leo's outfits... :trazz:) but all in all it was good. Dug how they handled Mikey's crush. I really look forward to seeing what comes of the turtles being lost in time, Tales Of The Yokai may very well be the best episode of season 3 so far. Looks ridiculously cool.

[Donny's computer84]

Love the episode, it reminds me of the 2003 Turtles. :D

[Jester]

Ohkay, let's add Master Jouster and Equestrian to Leo's ever growing resume..
That poll choice reminded me of that one bit in TMNT III:
"You know, sometimes I hate that guy..."

[JH24]

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.

Same for me. It irritated me to no end.

I mean, sure, they've had a shaky past. But she's their sister now. They've seen a different side of her, and they know Karai is Master Splinter's daughter.

And now they're talking about giving up on her? It seems out of character.

[PangolinFeets]

And regarding my earlier post, called it. The skeleton march scene is a direct rip from Jason and the Argonauts.
http://c-electro.tumblr.com/post/125728926207/legrawr-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2012

[The Turtle Terminator]

I haven't seen the episode yet, but I wanted to add for any as smegheads (Red Dwarf fans) that McTavish also played Warden Ackerman is series VIII

[ssjup81]

Ok really though, am I the only one super pissed off that even though the turtles know Karai is being brainwashed the three of them tell Leo to just Give up on her, and that's there's nothing they can do and just forget it? I mean what the hell?! If this was one of them or April in that situation they wouldn't rest a minute till they saved them, but because Nick hates Karai with a passion they just go and say, hey, Karai had a mutation forced upon her and now is basically being mind raped into serving someone she hates, but y'know what, forget about her, I mean who cares. Just pisses me off to no end.I don't think Donnie meant anything by it fully. He was using conditionals. "If" and "might". He wasn't like, "forget about her". It felt more like "it'll be dangerous to have her around unless she's cured". Donnie said they might have to let her go, not that they definitely should. Like if things become dire that may be their only option.

[_Fedor_]

Awesome episode!
One of the few that I appreciated in the third season. Many different scenery, chic action, humor and just a great Renet and Savanti. They are joined so not bad to this cartoon. Creators tried over Renet, earlier she was quite boring and here she eclipsed many. To Watch over the Mike also really fun. Full adventure the turtles. I really want continuation! :)

[saintsaucey]

And regarding my earlier post, called it. The skeleton march scene is a direct rip from Jason and the Argonauts.
http://c-electro.tumblr.com/post/125728926207/legrawr-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2012

I called it first :p

[BubblyShell22]

I don't think Donnie meant anything by it fully. He was using conditionals. "If" and "might". He wasn't like, "forget about her". It felt more like "it'll be dangerous to have her around unless she's cured". Donnie said they might have to let her go, not that they definitely should. Like if things become dire that may be their only option.

Yes, this is how I felt about that too. It's not they want to give up on her entirely, but they know that she's dangerous and since she's poisoned them once, they know there may be a chance they can't save her without killing themselves. But you saw Leo wasn't keen on giving up on her.

And did anyone notice Renet giving the Xena battle cry?

[DarkLightDragon]

I don't think Donnie meant anything by it fully. He was using conditionals. "If" and "might". He wasn't like, "forget about her". It felt more like "it'll be dangerous to have her around unless she's cured". Donnie said they might have to let her go, not that they definitely should. Like if things become dire that may be their only option.

Yeah, only Raph kind of wants to let her go possibly due to him having a (still somewhat justified) bias against her and still remembering how dangerous she was in Deadly Venom.

I do kinda wish Raph would give more to his argument by actually being the one to acknowledge that nothing bad would've happened to Karai had she not jumped the gun to get revenge while showing he does understand how Leo feels about failing to save her. Something around the lines of,

"Look Leo, I know you care about her and want her to be with us, her rightful family, but she ditched any chance of living a happier life with us just to get back at Shredder. She wouldn't even have been kidnapped, let alone mutated, in the first place had she made that dumb choice! It just goes to show that no matter how good she can be and you want her to be, she'll always think like the Shredder!"

[Darth Knuckles]

I really enjoyed this episode. It seemed to go by really fast though and because of that I found it a little difficult to soak in all three new characters to the Nick show: Renet, Savanti Romero, and Lord Simultaneous. I definitely want to see more of Savanti Romero. I do hope we get to see him and Renet again in another time period.

I really liked Renet in this version too. She seemed not as silly as she did in the Mirage comic, especially for the first time we see her and how young she is at the current time. I also liked how she was more of a fighter in this version. With her time knuckles or whatever they were called, I thought that was a very nice touch to make her be able to better defend herself on her own. Overall I was really happy with two of my favorite original Mirage characters Renet and Savanti Romero and I hope we see more if them soon.

[Garfield]

Love this ep. Loved seeing Renet and Savanti and the turtles in their LARP outfits in Medievel times hijinks. great stuff.


Fantastic episode, it's a nice change from the mutant of the week format and the Shredder Karai stuff.

Renet did refer to Savanti as a mutant so maybe...

That poll choice reminded me of that one bit in TMNT III:
"You know, sometimes I hate that guy..."

I'd love some TMNT III but that's probably not going to happen. Hope I'm wrong.

[shredder orokusaki]

Awesome episode. The fight with the skeletons was very good and i liked that savanti and Renet didnt look so much different from their 2003 versions. But the next episode is the one that i am looking forward too because i will fight and beat the turtles again!!!

[neatoman]

Awesome episode. The fight with the skeletons was very good and i liked that savanti and Renet didnt look so much different from their 2003 versions. But the next episode is the one that i am looking forward too because i will fight and beat the turtles again!!!

I hope you'll like being a blob of flesh.

[Mew]

I hope you'll like being a blob of flesh.
Lol.



ten characters

[Amaranthus]

Watched the episode today. It was okay, I guess. Nothing really stood out but I enjoyed Renet a lot.

[PangolinFeets]

I called it first :p

You said Clash of the Titans. Jason and the Argonauts is 20 years earlier. :p


I can't really blame the turtles for saying they wanna give up on Karai. She nearly just killed all of them. It's not like they're actually going to.

[shredder orokusaki]

Lol.



ten characters


No i dont like it at alll. But that was the only way to defeat the turtles.

[Autbot_Benz]

No i dont like it at alll. But that was the only way to defeat the turtles.

stop roleplaying as shredder you stupid twit. you seriously need help

[yellowmario27]

I just don't know what's going to happen when Karai is normal and is on the turtles side again....because Master Splinter would want her to stay with him right?


I think Savanti was disappointing in this episode, I wish they made him a tad bit more powerful, but i'm sure he'll come back and be more of a threat

Mikey's crush was kinda cute, but I think it's annoying how every girl character is pretty much a love interest.
It would have been nice to see him develop a crush instead of him falling love at first sight.

Can't wait for next episode!

[JTH]

I'm going to throw my bold prediction out there: The Turtles are responsible for Tang Shen's death.

The way they set this episode up with them having to face the possibility that Karai can't be cured, I'm betting was put there for a reason, it's a potential set-up to the next episode. I am going to guess that they feel being they have Shredder right then and there, that the way to prevent everything from happening in their timeline is to take out Shredder now before all the crap ever goes down and save their future.

They spot the fight between Shredder and Yoshi as it is happening, they try to intervene and stop it, but their plan goes wrong, and they are responsible for the house burning down, Shredder taking Miwa during the destruction, and that's when they realize that this was perhaps always meant to happen.

Thoughts?

[Powder]

I thought the same thing when they previewed it.

[ssjup81]

I just don't know what's going to happen when Karai is normal and is on the turtles side again....because Master Splinter would want her to stay with him right?


I think Savanti was disappointing in this episode, I wish they made him a tad bit more powerful, but i'm sure he'll come back and be more of a threat

Mikey's crush was kinda cute, but I think it's annoying how every girl character is pretty much a love interest.
It would have been nice to see him develop a crush instead of him falling love at first sight.

Can't wait for next episode!He didn't really seem to until she called him the cute one. Didn't feel like love at first sight to me personally.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The forest/woods at the beginning was the same set from the Northampton episodes. You can tell they're trying to get their money's worth of making that forest by putting it in so many episodes.

Yeah, just remove "New" before "England". :)

[ssjup81]

Ok. Time to actually talk about the ep. This ep would rank as being one of my favorites of the series! It was that good for me. Savanti was actually interesting to me compared to his Mirage comic counterpart, even though the mutant thing caught me offguard. And Renet was awesome and adorable! I liked how she tried using old-style slang. Loved the 50s slang. Nice Neutrino throwback.

I loved Mikey in this ep. At least we now know how he'd react in that situation. Leo was subtle. Donnie was obvious, but still never really came out and said it. Mikey is forward. I like how despite his crush, he still acted like himself, which I predicted ages ago. Mikey's always been portrayed as the one most comfortable in his own skin...um shell. Makes sense he would act in the way that he did. Now for Raph, I could see him being in serious denial if he had a crush and threaten to pound anyone who says otherwise.

I liked the horseback riding thing and Raph not fully getting the hang of it. It was funny.

Other things I liked...oh. Raph. I like how technically both he and Mikey saved the day. I liked Raph a lot in this ep in general for his lines, but that's usually always the case with me regarding him.

Loved the fact that Rob got to pull off the accent for Donnie. lol. I also like how he hugged Renet and how Mikey looked in the background. lol

Seeing Leo horseback riding was so adorable for some reason...but maybe it was because I was thinking about how into LARPing he was in the Mazes & Mutants ep.

Loved the ironic humor too.

At the end, I noticed a mistake. The next ep is the Yokai ep, right? They're supposed to be in the past and will learn of Saki, Yoshi, and Teng Shen's pasts, right? Well, I swear I saw Tokyo Skytree Tower in the background when Leo realized they were in Japan. The problem....Skytree wouldn't have existed yet. It was still being constructed when I lived here the first time (2010 - 2011). My junior-high students at the time chose to write about it after their school trip and how they couldn't wait to visit when it was finished being built in 2011. Even then, where in the world could they be? I would expect them to be up in the mountains in some remote area...like Yamanashi or a historical place like Iga or something. Maybe not there, but someplace far away from Tokyo. It's slightly bugging me, just like when Karai told April about the machine at Murakami's and how they have them in Tokyo. It would've been more accurate to say "Japan".

[aliena]

Glad I'm not the only person who thought that. Unfortunately that film doesn't get as much credit as its fellow Disney counterparts, which is a real shame.

It made me laugh how Mikey's attempt to hook up with Renet went better on this one occasion that all of Donnie and Leo's attempts with Karai and April put together. Sweet, sincere and surprisingly uncringeworthy.

Find it a bit weird though that Raph can bond with pigeons and a tortoise but has issues with horses.

The writers should have made Raph the expert at riding horseback and jousting instead of yet again giving it to Leo. Leo can fail at things every once in a while and we'd probably like him more.

[THGhost]

Raph spraying Mikey with water was adorable.
Yes! Renet! I know where this is going. :D
Why is the T in Renet pronounced aloud? I thought her name was pronounced "Reh-nay"? :P
Of course Donnie gets the wizard costume. Of course he does!
"He's right behind me, isn't he?" cliché. *DING!*
Was Savanti just gonna hold them in the time loop himself forever? Doesn't he have stuff to do? xD
LOVE the skeletons.
Disassembled-body-parts-pulling-themselves-together-again cliché. *DING!*
"Toys are such fun." Like Playmates toys? ;)
Awesome fight between the Turtles, Renet and Savanti!
Mikey kicks ass in this episode.
I'm 96% certain that this was a fantastic episode. :tcool:
The Turtles in Japan? Can't wait!

Oh, the skeletons from Jason and the Argonauts must be supplementing their retirement...

As well as the skeletons from Zelda, Spy Kids 2 and Army of Darkness. :lol:

[Mukouno]

I will say that I was hoping for more... traveling through time, seeing different time periods instead of just one. But other than that, still a great episode! Leaves more opportunities for future Renet episodes.

All in all I have to say I actually enjoy the Mikey/Renet crush. I was sceptical at first, seeing how they handled relationships so far. Leo/Karai is okay, I don't mind it and I couldn't help but feel sorry for Leo in the beginning when they talked about her. The infamous love triangle... Let's just say I don't like this concept in general and especially the execution of this one is rather... poor, to say the least. Though I will admit they toned it down significantly and it's gotten to the point where I can watch it without rolling my eyes. So I really liked Mikey teasing Donnie. :lol:

I think what really works for me with this pairing is simply how straightforward it is. No beating around the bush, no ignoring or being oblivious to ones feelings and most of all no drama. Just a guy liking a girl and both being open about it... I like it. It's a nice contrast to what we got so far. There have to be lighthearted and fluffy realtionships too, not everyone has dramatic and complicated ones.
Renet is simply great, she is cute, friendly and pretty heroic, not overly clumsy and an airhead, but instead on a tolerable level that manages to be endearing. And she can kick ass too. She and Mikey make for a good battle couple.
As for Mikey, it actually felt pretty in character that he'd be so flirty and open with his feelings, he's simply the type for that. Only was a little bit surprised that he got so possessive.
Poor Donnie. :tlol:

The only teensy-tiny nitpick I have is that at times the crush felt a little forced and shoved in the viewers face. I just hope they will tone it down in future episode, 'cause otherwise it might get a little on my nerves as well. That's the main reason I dislike the love triangle after all, at times Donnie really felt like a different character, and yes, I really disliked him when he got like that. I loved/still love the normal Donnie but couldn't stand him whenever April was around. Please don't do this to Mikey.
I'll give it a pass for this episode though since it's the first one dealing with Mikey's crush and it had to be established.

So yeah, I think I finally have something I can 'ship' too. (I think that's how you youngsters call it. :lol:)

Other than that, I really don't know what to think about Savanti Romero, he was suddenly... there and well... I seriously have no opinion on him. The nick series is the only incarnation I'm familiar with (trying to get into 2003 series) so this was my first time seeing him. I just feel he could have done waaay more with time being completely in his hands. But he didn't and now he's gone. :tneutral:
But the fight at the end was really awesome, so that's a plus.

So yeah, I enjoyed the episode for other things, not the new baddie.

Minor scene, but I really liked in the beginning when the turtles were just goofing around, having fun. Always nice seeing them relaxing and bonding. :tgrin:

Leo got some really awesome fighting scenes in this one, always great when he shows just why he's the leader. He's just that good.

Loved Donnie's accent and how he got to use the time staff. Scepter? Whatever...

I was laughing so hard in every scene dealing with Raph and horses, that was pure gold!
Just kind of a shame he really didn't do that much apart from that. Funny as it was, I'm getting the feeling the writers really don't know what to do with him other than making him a laughing stock. Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh, but you know what I mean. The Triceraton episode looks promising however, hopefully he'll shine in this one. :)

But I seriously cannot wait for the next episode, even more than for that one. With maybe Tang Shen appearing, this could mean a lot of feels~

[THGhost]

Loved Donnie's accent and how he got to use the time staff. Scepter? Whatever...

TMNT III called it a scepter. Wait... Forget I mentioned that.

[Splinter the boss]

I finally watched the episode this afternoon, and I must say that it was an awesome episode. I like Renet's and Savanti's character designs.

Renet is awesome, she can fight and defend herself against powerful beings although she is an apprentice.
I prefer her over April because she is not whiny like her.

As for Savanti, he looked cool and all, but I have to say I was really disappointed. For a time master, he wasn't that much. The way he lost in the end was pathetic, isn't he able to do anything else other than firebreathing and shielding himself ? ( those abililities do not even relate to time manipulation. )
He could have gone back into time, like 5 seconds ago, when he was about to be finished by Donnie.

One last thing: Why did it have to be Donnie finishing Savanti ?I know the show is about the turtles, but it could have been Renet, afterall she is the one who's been using. the time scepter.

How did Donnie even know how the time scepter work ?

[victory_angel]

I'm going to throw my bold prediction out there: The Turtles are responsible for Tang Shen's death.

The way they set this episode up with them having to face the possibility that Karai can't be cured, I'm betting was put there for a reason, it's a potential set-up to the next episode. I am going to guess that they feel being they have Shredder right then and there, that the way to prevent everything from happening in their timeline is to take out Shredder now before all the crap ever goes down and save their future.

They spot the fight between Shredder and Yoshi as it is happening, they try to intervene and stop it, but their plan goes wrong, and they are responsible for the house burning down, Shredder taking Miwa during the destruction, and that's when they realize that this was perhaps always meant to happen.

Thoughts?


Interesting idea, however they are Japan roughly 16 years before they were born. So if they take out the Shredder in that time, they would cease to exist.

What often happens is when the Turtles are sent to the past their actions in history shape their existence.

For example in the Mirage when they go to Japan and train some people in ninjitsu, the people they train create the Foot Clan.

In the OT Shredder goes back in time to destroy the founder of the Foot Clan so that Hamato Yoshi wouldn't be born in the future and thus the Turtles wouldn't be mutated.

And in the IDW when they go back to Ancient Japan, they encounter the family they are reincarnated from. Knowing what would happen to them in the near future, Leo wants to kill Oroku Saki to save all the innocent people who would suffer and die under his hand. Bur Raph stops him and says that if he kills the Shredder now, he would not only be destroying their existence, but the lives of all the people they meet and save in the future. And once they leave it is revealed that Leo's actions had set up the execution of that family.

So what I see here is that Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki are good terms, but these terms are strained because of their rivalry for Tang Shen. Then at some point the Turtles would talk about Shredder being an foundling child from the Foot Clan. Unknown to them the Shredder over hears this and becomes enraged and starts to believe that his entire life has been a lie. That's what causes him to destroy the Foot Clan and attack Yoshi, unfortunately he kills Tang Shen when she throws herself in front of the blade meant for her husband.

The Turtles want to do something to stop the attack, but unfortunately saving Tang Shen from her demise and preventing Miwa's abduction would prevent their existence in the future. So they have to stand aside and let things take place. But this also fuels a need to see the Shredder meet his end for good and ever.

[ssjup81]

I finally watched the episode this afternoon, and I must say that it was an awesome episode. I like Renet's and Savanti's character designs.

Renet is awesome, she can fight and defend herself against powerful beings although she is an apprentice.
I prefer her over April because she is not whiny like her.

As for Savanti, he looked cool and all, but I have to say I was really disappointed. For a time master, he wasn't that much. The way he lost in the end was pathetic, isn't he able to do anything else other than firebreathing and shielding himself ? ( those abililities do not even relate to time manipulation. )
He could have gone back into time, like 5 seconds ago, when he was about to be finished by Donnie.

One last thing: Why did it have to be Donnie finishing Savanti ?I know the show is about the turtles, but it could have been Renet, afterall she is the one who's been using. the time scepter.

How did Donnie even know how the time scepter work ?He didn't. Renet just told him to push the blue button.

[JTH]

Interesting idea, however they are Japan roughly 16 years before they were born. So if they take out the Shredder in that time, they would cease to exist.

What often happens is when the Turtles are sent to the past their actions in history shape their existence.

For example in the Mirage when they go to Japan and train some people in ninjitsu, the people they train create the Foot Clan.

In the OT Shredder goes back in time to destroy the founder of the Foot Clan so that Hamato Yoshi wouldn't be born in the future and thus the Turtles wouldn't be mutated.

And in the IDW when they go back to Ancient Japan, they encounter the family they are reincarnated from. Knowing what would happen to them in the near future, Leo wants to kill Oroku Saki to save all the innocent people who would suffer and die under his hand. Bur Raph stops him and says that if he kills the Shredder now, he would not only be destroying their existence, but the lives of all the people they meet and save in the future. And once they leave it is revealed that Leo's actions had set up the execution of that family.

So what I see here is that Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki are good terms, but these terms are strained because of their rivalry for Tang Shen. Then at some point the Turtles would talk about Shredder being an foundling child from the Foot Clan. Unknown to them the Shredder over hears this and becomes enraged and starts to believe that his entire life has been a lie. That's what causes him to destroy the Foot Clan and attack Yoshi, unfortunately he kills Tang Shen when she throws herself in front of the blade meant for her husband.

The Turtles want to do something to stop the attack, but unfortunately saving Tang Shen from her demise and preventing Miwa's abduction would prevent their existence in the future. So they have to stand aside and let things take place. But this also fuels a need to see the Shredder meet his end for good and ever.
They may not understand that though, the turtles may not grasp the possibility that changing the course of the past bares consequences in the future.

But what if that is what is intended to happen? They feel that they may change history by helping where as they actually would have changed history by doing nothing?

I think history wouldn't be changed by the turtle's interference because I believe this is what actually happened, it's just that either Yoshi has no knowledge it was them, or perhaps Splinter knows they caused this and must live through his life knowing these events are destined to somehow happen?

If per chance Yoshi knows that these four mutant turtles perhaps from the future caused this traumatic event in his life, what intrigued him to one day to purchase four random baby turtles from a pet store many years later? Could it be perhaps that these were the four turtles he met in Japan all those years ago?

It's a crazy theory yes, but TMNT has been known to do these crazy turn of events in the past.

[saintsaucey]

You said Clash of the Titans. Jason and the Argonauts is 20 years earlier. :p


I can't really blame the turtles for saying they wanna give up on Karai. She nearly just killed all of them. It's not like they're actually going to.

Sorry. Thats what i meant was jata.

[victory_angel]

They may not understand that though, the turtles may not grasp the possibility that changing the course of the past bares consequences in the future.

But what if that is what is intended to happen? They feel that they may change history by helping where as they actually would have changed history by doing nothing?

I think history wouldn't be changed by the turtle's interference because I believe this is what actually happened, it's just that either Yoshi has no knowledge it was them, or perhaps Splinter knows they caused this and must live through his life knowing these events are destined to somehow happen?

If per chance Yoshi knows that these four mutant turtles perhaps from the future caused this traumatic event in his life, what intrigued him to one day to purchase four random baby turtles from a pet store many years later? Could it be perhaps that these were the four turtles he met in Japan all those years ago?

It's a crazy theory yes, but TMNT has been known to do these crazy turn of events in the past.

But that is what I am saying. By interfering they are setting up their existence. If they stood aside and did nothing or had no involvement in the situation, they won't exist in future.

Preventing the death of Tang Shen or Miwa's abduction would prevent their existence since Splinter left Japan after his family and clan had been destroyed. If Tang Shen survived or Miwa was not abducted and raised as Karai, Splinter wouldn't have needed the Turtles in his life.

I can certainly see Leo being desperate enough to save Karai and unknowingly forsake the existence of his brothers and himself. But once he realizes that if he saves Karai at that point in time, he is dooming her, and April, Casey, and everyone else they have come to know and love to the Kraang.

But most of the time when the Turtles do change history, its not something they knowingly intend to do. Like teaching the guys who created the Foot Clan. Attempting to kill the Shredder to prevent an execution that they know will happen, only for said execution to happen because they had interfered.

We don't know how the Shredder learned he was from the Foot Clan. But it is likely he over hears the Turtles talking to each other about what they remembered Splinter telling them about the Shredder and that is how he learned he was abducted from his true clan.

[Ninjinister]

Renet's characterization is great and I love her relationship with Mikey already.

And then the knights were named after members of my favorite band... that was pretty hilarious, even if it was just a gag from the credits :lol:

I don't know why, though, but the episode seemed... shorter than usual? Is it just me?

[Powder]

It's just you, but I've felt that way before. I guess it's that sort of "Time flies when you're having fun" sensation.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Well, it WAS an episode about time.... Maybe Renet was playing with the scepter again? JK. More thoughts later after I finally get to see it! (Unless it's already up, but I'm for bed soon.)

[Ninja Tiptup]

Hey Mikey if she isn't even born yet, she's too young for you bro. It cracked me up when Renet mentioned that but she gave him a peck on the cheek later anyway.

Since Ciro and I believe also Brandon are fans of the Mirage comics I'm not too surprised they kept Renet, Savanti and Lord Simultaneous very true to their comic origins.

I'm quite looking forward to our next time traveling adventure.

[srmff]

The writers should have made Raph the expert at riding horseback and jousting instead of yet again giving it to Leo. Leo can fail at things every once in a while and we'd probably like him more.

That could have been a nod to TMNT III where Leo was able to quickly learn to ride a horse while the others were having a greater difficulty at it. The other turtles' reaction to that is, 'You know, sometimes I hate that guy.'

[BubblyShell22]

JTH and VA, I agree with you that the Turtles may very well cause Tang Shen's death without knowing it. Or they may want to change things, but then they realize that if they do, they will cease to exist. Either way, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out next week. I have a feeling it's going to be very emotional.

[ssjup81]

That could have been a nod to TMNT III where Leo was able to quickly learn to ride a horse while the others were having a greater difficulty at it. The other turtles' reaction to that is, 'You know, sometimes I hate that guy.'I can't believe I missed that reference. lol

[aliena]

That could have been a nod to TMNT III where Leo was able to quickly learn to ride a horse while the others were having a greater difficulty at it. The other turtles' reaction to that is, 'You know, sometimes I hate that guy.'

I can't believe I forgot that. Now I have to go watch TMNT III again.

[Jo X]

Hi guys,

There are two words in S03E19 that confuse me (as I am from a non-English speaking part of the world):

1. "chicks dig 'em" - when Mikey tried to impress Renet he said that to Raph. What does it mean?

2. "blue bottom" - Renet told Don to press the blue bottom when he tried to use the scepter. Is there really a blue bottom????

Thank you in advance for your early reply!!!

[victory_angel]

Hi guys,

There are two words in S03E19 that confuse me (as I am from a non-English speaking part of the world):

1. "chicks dig 'em" - when Mikey tried to impress Renet he said that to Raph. What does it mean?

2. "blue bottom" - Renet told Don to press the blue bottom when he tried to use the scepter. Is there really a blue bottom????

Thank you in advance for your early reply!!!

Chick's dig 'em just means girls/women/females like them.

As for your second question, Renet was telling Donnie to press the blue button not blue bottom. So there is a blue button somewhere on the staff and Renet was telling him that is what activated the staff.

[Jo X]

Chick's dig 'em just means girls/women/females like them.

As for your second question, Renet was telling Donnie to press the blue button not blue bottom. So there is a blue button somewhere on the staff and Renet was telling him that is what activated the staff.


Thank you soooo much >W<
and sorry for the blue bottom...

[Karai Samurai]

Too late to join in?

Great way to start after that excruciating hiatus. Huge fan of Renet and while Savanti was more than a little generic, I didn't hate him. I'm actually glad we're done with the Shredder/Karai drama for some time.

Anyway, great episode and love the cliff hanger. Can't complain about plot amnesia with this one.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Finally saw the episode. Thought it was good, but it doesn't really hold a candle to last years starting episode for the "season finale home streak" as I call it. But I could do with borrowing either Renets sceptre or a DeLorean cause I really can't wait for next week!:o

[Redworld96]

A clip about Mikey's moments from the episode: https://youtu.be/-MSvCginu-Q

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I finally saw the episode and it was enjoyable but nothing spectacular. I like that Mikey now has a love interest as maybe now it will give him a bit more character in the future. Renet was enjoyable but she didn't really come off as interesting. Then again, she was never really an interesting character in the first place, even though I like her. Savanti Romero was pretty awesome. He has an interesting sense of humor to him and he reminds me a little of Jafar in some ways. Raph struggling to ride the horses wasn't as funny as I wanted it to be (though I have a feeling this scene probably won't sit well with Raph fans again) but I did like his line about turtles riding horses as it reminded me of how stupid an idea it was in TMNT 3.

I'm sure the next episode will be interesting. :)

[CyberCubed]

This episode wasn't spectacular? Probably the best episode in a while. Also LOVED the Skeleton fight.

You know its surprising it took this long for a Skeleton battle in this show, especially with all the other horror elements and monsters before this.

[Enscripture]

Nobody mentioned the obvious Xena yell when Renet got on the horse? lol Another really obscure reference was Renet's dart thingy from another time traveling show, Cleopatra 2525.

[ssjup81]

Nobody mentioned the obvious Xena yell when Renet got on the horse? lol Another really obscure reference was Renet's dart thingy from another time traveling show, Cleopatra 2525.Pretty sure it was.

[BubblyShell22]

Nobody mentioned the obvious Xena yell when Renet got on the horse? lol Another really obscure reference was Renet's dart thingy from another time traveling show, Cleopatra 2525.

Actually, I did mention the Xena yell, but nobody paid attention to it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah, I caught that when I watched it last night. And Raph ending up on the horse backwards was definitely a nod to TMNT III, as was Leo being an instant riding expert. I can't believe everyone missed that the skeleton hands in Donnie's mouth was an almost EXACT redux of the AoD scene, even though much of the fight was more like Jason and the Argonauts.

Loved Mikey in this one, he was SO funny and cute and such a charmer! Loved the elf ears comment. For one, Renet was pretty cool, and I really enjoyed how they were together, unlike Donnie and April at times.

[Leofan26]

I finally saw the episode and it was enjoyable but nothing spectacular. I like that Mikey now has a love interest as maybe now it will give him a bit more character in the future. Renet was enjoyable but she didn't really come off as interesting. Then again, she was never really an interesting character in the first place, even though I like her. Savanti Romero was pretty awesome. He has an interesting sense of humor to him and he reminds me a little of Jafar in some ways. Raph struggling to ride the horses wasn't as funny as I wanted it to be (though I have a feeling this scene probably won't sit well with Raph fans again) but I did like his line about turtles riding horses as it reminded me of how stupid an idea it was in TMNT 3.

I'm sure the next episode will be interesting. :)

That's what I was thinking, I was surprised Raph fans haven't complained about the one scene, even Mikey was able to ride a horse just fine :lol:

FYI, why do have an eye role next to Leo's choice? He was awesome this episode.

[MrTMNT2012]

This episode wasn't spectacular? Probably the best episode in a while. Also LOVED the Skeleton fight.

You know its surprising it took this long for a Skeleton battle in this show, especially with all the other horror elements and monsters before this.

Agreed. This is exactly the kind of episodes I want to see in Season 3!

The writing was much better and it gave me major 2K3 flashbacks which is always a good thing.

Can't wait for next week's Episode!

:tgrin:(8.5/10):tgrin:

[JTH]

This episode wasn't spectacular? Probably the best episode in a while.
Well of course, the show hadn't been on in a while... :P

[darthwahl56]

Yeah, I caught that when I watched it last night. And Raph ending up on the horse backwards was definitely a nod to TMNT III, as was Leo being an instant riding expert. I can't believe everyone missed that the skeleton hands in Donnie's mouth was an almost EXACT redux of the AoD scene, even though much of the fight was more like Jason and the Argonauts.

Loved Mikey in this one, he was SO funny and cute and such a charmer! Loved the elf ears comment. For one, Renet was pretty cool, and I really enjoyed how they were together, unlike Donnie and April at times.

Also Mikey had real arrows and not suction cup arrows. I loved the Army of Darkness reference. This next episode we will be getting them in their vision quest outfits again.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Awesome episode. The fight with the skeletons was very good and i liked that savanti and Renet didnt look so much different from their 2003 versions. But the next episode is the one that i am looking forward too because i will fight and beat the turtles again!!!

Actually it will be the first time in chronological order. And you might not beat the turtles...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This episode wasn't spectacular? Probably the best episode in a while. Also LOVED the Skeleton fight.

You know its surprising it took this long for a Skeleton battle in this show, especially with all the other horror elements and monsters before this.

It's not like I said the episode was bad, just not as amazing as I thought it would be. A lot of aspects were just to familiar too me.

I'm also surprised it took a while for this to happen but better late than never.

[Toadtrooper]

It wasn't bad. But the pacing was off and nothing was really explained. It was like a TMNT Steven Universe episode. Stuff! More stuff! Bad guy! Relationships! Stuff!

The only thing I really disliked was the "future Turtles are famous" device. I don't get why anyone thinks that a character who spoils the future is ever a good idea. It kills suspense when you should be trying to generate suspense every chance you get.

I feel the show's getting into a bad habit where it takes an idea that could be a really good, engaging 3-4 episode story arc, but throws it all into 22 minutes so they can do more ideas overall.

[Ravenshell]

I feel the show's getting into a bad habit where it takes an idea that could be a really good, engaging 3-4 episode story arc, but throws it all into 22 minutes so they can do more ideas overall.

At risk of sounding like a broken record at this point, no one wants to have to deal with airing schedules as far as arcs go, so they just don't do them... they want eps that can stand alone, so they don't get in trouble if they get something out of order, or they can just throw something random into an open airing slot. (I think it's lazy, myself; I'd love to see actual arcs.)


Well, it WAS an episode about time....

I see what you did there!! Even if you didn't mean to be that funny!

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, but this episode actually is an arc from the way they left it at a cliffhanger, so that's a good way to do it. I do wish they'd do this more often though.

Time does seem to fly when you're having fun.

[Commenter 42]

Finally caught up last night. I like what it's setting up, and where the next season is possibly headed, but Ep19 was pretty middling.

[CyberCubed]

Finally caught up last night. I like what it's setting up, and where the next season is possibly headed, but Ep19 was pretty middling.

Why was it middling? It was pretty much a well written episode from beginning to end with great characterisation for Renet/Savanti and good action.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I see what you did there!! Even if you didn't mean to be that funny!


Nope it was ENTIRELY intentional. I love puns and double-meanings. I'm a punny kind of gal.

[Commenter 42]

Why was it middling? It was pretty much a well written episode from beginning to end with great characterisation for Renet/Savanti and good action.

It felt disjointed to me. Didn't you think so? It started with an awkward waterfight, followed by a promising scene with Renet, which felt like it was setting up for something fun, only to kind of meander its way through tired reference after tired reference. I don't know that nods to Monty Python or Sinbad are still entertaining. They've been done 1000 times, and this time certainly didn't feel any fresher. Savanti wasn't an interesting character in the slightest - he wants the time stick, but doesn't even know why he wants it. he was easily defeated. I mean, sure, it's all Mirage stuff, but.....

The last scene, the Hamato clan...THAT was cool. That made me sit up and pay attention.

[victory_angel]

It felt disjointed to me. Didn't you think so? It started with an awkward waterfight, followed by a promising scene with Renet, which felt like it was setting up for something fun, only to kind of meander its way through tired reference after tired reference. I don't know that nods to Monty Python or Sinbad are still entertaining. They've been done 1000 times, and this time certainly didn't feel any fresher. Savanti wasn't an interesting character in the slightest - he wants the time stick, but doesn't even know why he wants it. he was easily defeated. I mean, sure, it's all Mirage stuff, but.....

The last scene, the Hamato clan...THAT was cool. That made me sit up and pay attention.

That's the kind of villein he is. He wants power over all time and space, but when he has it he doesn't know what to do with it.

[Splinter the boss]

The last scene, the Hamato clan...THAT was cool. That made me sit up and pay attention.

What makes you think they were ninjas of the Hamato clan ? Last time we saw the Hamato clan, they were in white.
In my opinion, it could be some other minor ninja clan in Japan.

Then again, who knows ?

[groddofwar]

What makes you think they were ninjas of the Hamato clan ? Last time we saw the Hamato clan, they were in white.
In my opinion, it could be some other minor ninja clan in Japan.

Then again, who knows ?

One of the ninjas throws a Hamato clan ninja star and Leo says that it is the Hamato clan

[victory_angel]

What makes you think they were ninjas of the Hamato clan ? Last time we saw the Hamato clan, they were in white.
In my opinion, it could be some other minor ninja clan in Japan.

Then again, who knows ?

In the clip for this episode, one of the ninja throws a Shuriken and the Turtles recognize the symbol on it as the Hamato Clan, Crest. Also when Oroku Saki shows up at the end of the clip he has the Hamato Crest emblazoned on his tunic.

[Splinter the boss]

I don't remember anything about a Hamato clan ninja star or Shredder making an appearance. Guess I'll have to check the end of the episode again. Thank you for the info, though.

[TurtleTitan97]

I don't remember anything about a Hamato clan ninja star or Shredder making an appearance. Guess I'll have to check the end of the episode again. Thank you for the info, though.

It was from a clip for the upcoming episode.

[Splinter the boss]

Oh, that's why I didn't recall those events. Were they from the clip where Leo said that the only thing they can do is finish Shredder and when they were fighting Shredder by the fire ?

[victory_angel]

is was from the clip shown here

http://tune.pk/video/6183191/yokai

[Metalwolf]

Awesome episode. The fight with the skeletons was very good and i liked that savanti and Renet didnt look so much different from their 2003 versions. But the next episode is the one that i am looking forward too because i will fight and beat the turtles again!!!

I hope you'll like being a blob of flesh.A big, revolting blob of flesh. With three of your henchmen, together, before the Turtles finally put you down like a rabid animal.

Welcome to Hell, Shredder. :ttwisted:



Anyway, I liked this episode, and definitely liked Renet. Can't wait for the Tales of the Yokai. :D

[Lil Karai]

This entire season, including this episode have been "meh". Not engaging me and has me not wanting to come back for more. Watching new episodes feels more like an obligation in the hopes that a more interesting and deeper storyline might come about.

[Papenbrook]

This entire season, including this episode have been "meh". Not engaging me and has me not wanting to come back for more. Watching new episodes feels more like an obligation in the hopes that a more interesting and deeper storyline might come about.
I feel the same way, unfortunately.

[CyberCubed]

This entire season, including this episode have been "meh". Not engaging me and has me not wanting to come back for more. Watching new episodes feels more like an obligation in the hopes that a more interesting and deeper storyline might come about.

How on earth was this episode, "Meh?" Seriously, it was one of the best written eps in a while.

[GoldMutant]

How on earth was this episode, "Meh?" Seriously, it was one of the best written eps in a while.

Remember Cube, everyone is gonna think differently then you. Opinions are everywhere.

Anyways, I'll probably offer my two cents later, but overall one of my top episodes of the season. Wish more was done though, but still a solid episode. :)

[Shark_Blade]

I gotta give credit to the cinematography team for this episode. Very movie quality like. On to the show.

I'm so glad they didn't make Renet dressed up like a whore. The leotard outfit she wore in the Mirage comic left much to be desired.

Renet seems like April and sounds like April, but at least she's more charming and likeable. And she doesn't seem to mind for a human-turtle hot loving action. :trazz: Maybe the future has some kind of alien-human-mutant hybrid community.

Okay Raph, only you left. Just make out with Casey already.

[TheMuz]

Hey guys!! If you are curious or wanna see just see some crazy Ninja Turtles Puppet video, our review for Turtles in Time is up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebLwroHV60U

I hope you guys enjoy! :)

[ranger_scout]

I forgot to post my thoughts for this episode. They are brief, but I will do it anyway. I enjoyed the second half it more than the first half. The highlights for me were when Donnie got to use the scepter while being dressed like Gandalf and when Raph had trouble riding the horse.

[victory_angel]

Overall Rating:
5-Epic Awesomeness
4-Good Story
3.5-Better watched with a Turtle fan present.
3-Wouldn’t kick it out of bed for eating beans, but wouldn’t recommend it to a new comer.
2-If you never see it, you’re not missing anything.
1-I’ve seen bad fan-fictions that were better than this.

As Bebop would say "Wow to the Wow" that was an intense episode. And it introduces us to some more iconic characters from the mirage comics. However while I personally feel this episode deserves a higher rating, I am going to need to give it a 3.5. It's not that people who are just catching this series wouldn't understand what was going on. It's just Renet and Savantei Ramero, while they aren't really obscure to the point of being non-existent *Cough*Oroku Nagi *Cough*, they are obscure enough to confuse people who are not familiar with the franchise. And there are also people who are familiar with the franchise who have never heard of these characters either.

First lets start with the plot.

The episode was very well animated and offered some very intense, well paced fighting scenes. I especially loved the fight in the Tower of the Demon. And all the characters had their moments to shine through out the story.

It was good to see the Turtles haven't forgotten about Karai. However I did hear a number of people cry foul over the fact that the Turtles were sounding like they needed to give up on her. Personally, I didn't get that impression. Now understandably Raph and Donnie have no real love for Karai, nor do they have any reason to trust her. So it is understandable that they are the ones telling Leo that they need to drop the search. However they weren't meaning 'let her go' as in forsaking her completely. They were stating that there were more things going on aside from Karai, and they needed to focus on those other things first.

I also found it awesome to see the Turtles in another location aside from New York. Though I'm was not particularly fond of the initial events of their arrival in 10th century England. But as the Nick show does like adding in its references I think it was a given to see four very Monty Pythonesk knights. Who are actually named after the Beatles in the credits.

Even the cliffhanger ending where the Turtles find themselves in Modern Day Japan, left me salivating for the next episode. Particularly since we were going to see a glimpse into the past of Splinter and Shredder.

Next on to the characters, starting with Mikey.

Mikey had a lot of the going power in this episode. I found it an interesting twist that Mikey was vowing that he'll never get a crush on a girl. The only Turtles with love interests we've seen thus far are Donnie and Leo. While Mikey is supportive of his brothers in their relationships with their chosen paramores. He has also watched his eldest and most intellectual brothers act stupid over the women they have feelings for. So in Mikey's mind having a crush on a girl leads to nothing but trouble, which was why he wants nothing to do with them.

Ironically when Renet appears, Mikey is almost immediately taken with her. Particularly with the fact she referred to him as the "cute one". There is one moment that is almost a mirror to Mikey giving April an appreciative hug back in season 1. In this moment, Donnie pulls Renet into a hug after she breaks them free from the time loop. In Donnie's mind it was just an act of appreciation nothing more, but Mikey still has a reaction that just screams "Keep your hands off my woman, yo!" Which was hilarious to watch.

Next Renet herself. Her character is somewhat changed from her original story line in this incarnation. Originally her character is from a Dimention called the 79th Level of Null-Time. There isn't a lot of info regarding Null-Time aside from it being the home of the Time Masters. However since 'Null' is a term that means the value of zero, it is easy to assume that Null-Time is a dimension that exists outside of time and space.

In this version Renet explains she is from the future My guess is explaining that she is from another dimension that exists out side of time required too much explaining, so it was easier to explain she is from another time and leave it at that. Other then this she is largely the same character she was in the Mirage comic.

Her design and character were tastefully done. In most of the incarnations she has appeared in she has always been designed in a manner that can be described as sexualized. The IDW had been the most conservative version of her to date before this appearance. She also has been presented as ditsy and clumsy as well.

In this incarnation her everything about her character is pleasing. While she is clumsy at times, that isn't something that is overblown in her character. In many ways she is rather competent and helpful to the Turtles during their mission to get back the time scepter.
Renet is voiced by in this incarnation by Ashley Johnson, who has done various voices along side Greg Cipes. Some examples include Gwen Tennyson from Ben 10 and Terra from Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go. I felt her voice in this incarnation to be the best version of Renet to date, particularly since Renet's voice in the 2k3 versions sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

An interesting thing to note is there is a moment where Mikey asks her if they were dating and Renet answers that she hasn't been born yet. And later on when Mikey asks her if they could hang out sometime in the future, Renet answers "I would like that."

I found these statements interesting as Renet doesn't actually say where she is from in the future. She easily could have said that she wouldn't be born for X number of decades at either moment. So it is plausible Renet would be born at least some point in Mikey's lifetime. Renet's full name in the Mirage comic is Renet Tilley, so perhaps we can hope to see someone with the surname of Tilley be introduced in the series even if it's just an easter egg.

Next on to Romero. Again his story is also changed to fit this incarnation, but unlike Renet he has the greater changes in his character. Originally in the Mirage story line, Romero had been a former student of Lord Simultaneous. However due to his arrogance and ambition he attempts to steal the Time Scepter for himself so that he can erase Simultaneous from history and become the new Lord of Time. He is caught and sentenced to spend the rest of his life trapped in the year 1406 A.D. and as an added punishment Simultaneous turns Romero into a demon.

In this incarnation they change Romero's story so that he is a mutant. However we really don't have any reasons for his ambitions aside from the fact he wants to control all time and space. Essentially he's the sort of villain who wants power...he doesn't have a reason for wanting power, all he knows is that is something he wants. And then once he has what he wants, he really has no idea what to do beyond that.

In a way this sort of was a turn off for some fans of the show, because with the way he is designed he you would expect him to be intimidating. However his mannerisms and way of speech make him come across as more dastardly then threatening. And as we literally have no back story or motivation aside from a lust for power, Romero's defeat at the end felt like a mutant of the week.

Romero in this incarnation is played by Gram McTavish. McTavish himself isn't so much a voice actor as much as he is a screen and TV actor. One of his more recognizable roles was his role as Dwalin in the Hobbit Trilogy. In voice roles he is the voice of Loki in Hulk Vs. Thor and also Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

All the same we are likely to get a Return of Savanti plot in an upcoming season we haven't seen the last of Savanti Romero or Renet as of yet.

Now we get to the other three Turtles. While their roles were smaller, they still had their parts to play. Starting with Leo, it seems that he has actually grasped that Donnie's feelings for April are deeper then just a crush. Arguably he seemed to grasp that during Visionquest, but this episode when Donnie is saying that if he can't come up with a cure for Karai, they are going to need to let her go. Leo responds by saying "It's not that simple Donnie, you know this!" as though saying "You of all people would understand..." And through out the episode he really does show his worth as a leader in this quest.

Raph also shows his worth as the warrior and protector of the group. Particularly with how he protects Mikey while they are fighting the Knights. And later on, when Ramero is about to burn Donnie's face off with his fire breath, Raph breaks Ramero's wrist gauntlets destroying the control the Demon Time Master had over the tower, as well as Ramero's physical defenses. In an added twist of humor Raph is shown to be uncomfortable around horses. Raph in previous seasons shown to have a good relationship with animals such as Spike and of course pigeons. But strangely he is shown having a fear of horses in this episode. Perhaps he is more inclined towards small animals rather then larger ones, then again we haven't seen him have a good relationship with Ice Cream Kitty so who knows.

And lastly Donnie. Donnie had a role as a voice of reason in this episode. Particularly with some of the actions in this story. And of course we couldn't pass up having Rob Paulsen using his Pinky voice from Pinky and the Brain when Donnie was telling the knights that they were looking for Savanti Romero. And at the end of the episode he was the one that sends Romero hurtling into the Cretaceous period, a task that is often undertaken by Lord Simultaneous.

That's all I have to say about this episode. Looking forward to seeing more time travel in the future. Please check back again as I look into Tale of the Yokai.