Sequel Of Choice

[Powder]

If you could have a direct sequel to any movie ever, whether or not parties involved have passed away, regardless of who holds the licenses, etc, what would it be? Put the TMNT aside, though.

The film I'd most love to see is Super Mario Bros. 2. The SMB movie is probably my all-time favorite, next to the turtle trilogy. I really can't wrap my head around how it's so hated. If the games didn't exist & that flick came out as is, it'd be considered a cult classic today. Folks only trash it because it's nothing like the video games, but that's the fun of it! It's mad original, really bizarre, very aesthetically pleasing & absolutely a product of it's time. The soundtrack, cast, set/clothing design, animatronics & puppetry are all super rad. It had a sort of cliffhanger ending, & I spent most of my youth waiting on bated breath for the sequel that never was & never would be, having no idea that it was universally panned. A return to that universe with Yoshi at their disposal would've been ridiculously dope, to me. Fun fact: The Mushroom Kingdom was built/shot in the same place as The Foot's headquarters, a cement factory in NC. Wanna visit one day.

I'd love it if we had gotten Gremlins 3, Ghostbusters 3, Rush Hour 4, & maybe Batteries Not Included 2, as well.

[Cure]

I would have liked a sequel to Speed Racer. Dredd, too, but they're both considered failures. Boo.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Flight of the Navigator or The Cat From Outer Space. Two of my favorite movies as a kid, and would have loved if the Mouse House had followed up on those.

[MikeandRaph87]

I would have rather have seen Spider-Man 4 than Amazing Spider-Man. It would resolve plot threads and give us a mix of everything in a way only Raimi could deliver. It would have been nice to see a script for the film if anything.


I would be interested in seeing a Face/Off sequel. Perhaps have Castor Troy's son take after his father's terrorist ways and want revenge on his step father. It would make sense to happen.

Tropic Thunder 2. I do not know what the plot for this one would be, but its bound to hilarious.

[Bry]

Besides Serenity? :P

The rational part of my brain says it's best to leave it alone, but... if I have to pick one...

If they could recapture the magic, I'd really like to see a followup to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. The keyword is "if". But that movie was so, so good, and I feel like checking in on Harry and Perry 10 years later, even deeper in neo-noir style Hollywood seediness, could be a lot of fun.

[NinjaPug]

I really want a sequel to Prometheus. Recent reports have Ridley Scott scheduled to start shooting Prometheus 2 in January but I won't believe it until I see it. There were some problems with the first one but I instantly wanted to see Shaw and David head to the Engineer's home when the movie was over. I hope they steer away from trying to tie it into the Alien mythology and just focus on getting the story right without the tie-ins.

A sequel I know I'll never get is John Carter.

[Jester]

Can't think of any off hand....maybe a Mrs. Doubtfire sequel, but it ended well enough...and Gremlins 3 if they had a good story.

I do however feel, like a co-worker of mine, that it'd be awesome to visit alternate dimensions where things like Superman Lives and the Will Smith as Neo Matrix movie was made.

Maybe a 2nd Season of Next Mutation...would that count?

[sdp]

John Carter of Mars was going to be the name of the sequel to JC IIRC. And yeah that's my choice. It'll never happen since Disney abandoned the rights, the good news is technically John Carter is in the public domain so a new chance of JC hitting it big is a possibility. I actually really liked the Disney version, the casting, the effects, the changes in the story, the soundtrack but oh well.

Rush Hour 4

We may still be getting this one, even with the new Rush Hour TV that is being filmed now. I kind of want RH4 but I'm not sure why because even though I am a huge Jackie fan I hated 2 and 3. I guess Chris Tucker/Jackie Chan still had some lolworth dialog even if the movies were terrible.

[MikeandRaph87]

Can't think of any off hand....maybe a Mrs. Doubtfire sequel, but it ended well enough...and Gremlins 3 if they had a good story.

I do however feel, like a co-worker of mine, that it'd be awesome to visit alternate dimensions where things like Superman Lives and the Will Smith as Neo Matrix movie was made.

Maybe a 2nd Season of Next Mutation...would that count?


I doubt I could stomach a season 2 , but I am curious if April O'Neil, Bebop, Rocksteady, and Casey Jones would appear as rumored. Also put an end to the Dragon Lord plot. Maybe send Venus back to China where she belongs?

[DarkFell]

Lost In Space. The movie did poorly when it was released in theaters back in 1998. Since Hollywood chooses to do either remakes or sequels of older movies, then let them reboot LiS.

As Cure mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing another Dredd movie being done (should that ever happen.)

[Leo656]

Speed Racer definitely. Ghostbusters 3 also.

[Autbot_Benz]

Hellboy 3 cause they need to finish the franchise. Even Ron Perlman who really doesn't want to go through the makeup again feels like he owes one more movie.


I would have said Evil Dead 4 but we are getting Ash Vs Evil Dead so thats good.

Ghostbuster's 3 would have been nice instead of this crappy reboot.I would have rather had the sons take over the family business.

[Powder]

I doubt I could stomach a season 2 , but I am curious if April O'Neil, Bebop, Rocksteady, and Casey Jones would appear as rumored. Also put an end to the Dragon Lord plot. Maybe send Venus back to China where she belongs?

Where we Bebop & Rocksteady rumored? I've never once heard/seen that & I'm a big fan of the series. Casey & April were, for sure, they even had concept art, but I highly doubt B&R would've been involved. The costs for that + a lack of support from Eastman & Laird makes it seem a given they'd not even be considered...

Ghostbuster's 3 would have been nice instead of this crappy reboot.I would have rather had the sons take over the family business.

Word, but without Harold Ramis there's no point. I'd have loved a Ghostbusters 3 a few years ago, using the game's story, but not now. Just let it die.

We may still be getting this one, even with the new Rush Hour TV that is being filmed now. I kind of want RH4 but I'm not sure why because even though I am a huge Jackie fan I hated 2 and 3. I guess Chris Tucker/Jackie Chan still had some lolworth dialog even if the movies were terrible.

I dunno, I doubt it. Jackie's not really for it. If you Google Rush Hour 4 & peep the most recent interviews with him, he says he'd need a good reason & doesn't believe there is one.

My list above would most definitely have included Beetlejuice & Pee-wee's stuff, but since they're both abut to get new installments, there's no need. :)

[Cure]

I would have said Evil Dead 4 but we are getting Ash Vs Evil Dead so thats good.


Oh yeah, I would have liked a sequel to the Evil Dead reboot. I liked that movie a lot.

[Autbot_Benz]

Word, but without Harold Ramis there's no point. I'd have loved a Ghostbusters 3 a few years ago, using the game's story, but not now. Just let it die.





My list above would most definitely have included Beetlejuice & Pee-wee's stuff, but since they're both abut to get new installments, there's no need. :)

Ya I can't wait for Pee Wee's Big Holiday and Beetlejuice 2. i also agree after the video game they should have left Ghostbusters alone. But hollywood can't do that.

[MikeandRaph87]

Where we Bebop & Rocksteady rumored? I've never once heard/seen that & I'm a big fan of the series. Casey & April were, for sure, they even had concept art, but I highly doubt B&R would've been involved. The costs for that + a lack of support from Eastman & Laird makes it seem a given they'd not even be considered...

I read it years and years ago on the Ring of Green when I researched the cancelation of the series. The henchmutants, April, and Casey Jones were set to appear in a second season. The knowledge bit just sticks out. I can ask Dan Berger if he has any insight if you are curious enough. I know I would not pill that random, but out of this air. I would have preferred Rat King to those two in the show personally.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The Losers. So unfairly underrated.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Spaceballs. Mel Brooks owes me a sequel, dammit! It was even rumored to be in the works several years ago, but sadly, never got anywhere. Not sure who would take Candy's place, if anyone, but.... I REALLY want to see it happen.

[drgon78]

Hell Boy 3
John Carter 2
Incredibles 2*
Ghostbusters 3
Beetlejuice 2*
Brave 2
Monsters Inc.(actual sequel)
Bill and Ted 3*
Gremlins 3
Pacific Rim 2*
Amazing Spiderman 3
Prometheus 2*
Monsters vs Aliens 2
Megamind 2
kick Ass 3

*They say they are being worked on but I will believe it when I see it.:lol:

There are more but that is what comes to mind right now.

[THGhost]

Off the top of the head - Serenity, Dredd, Dog Soldiers, Gremlins 3, Goonies, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Galaxy Quest, True Lies.

maybe a Mrs. Doubtfire?

You can't make a sequel to Mrs. Doubtfire without Robin Williams, God rest his soul.

Speed Racer definitely. Ghostbusters 3 also.

Again, you can't make Ghostbusters 3 without Harold Ramis. Plus Bill Murray flat out refuses to do it, so. :P

[Powder]

You can't make a sequel to Mrs. Doubtfire without Robin Williams, God rest his soul.

Again, you can't make Ghostbusters 3 without Harold Ramis. Plus Bill Murray flat out refuses to do it, so. :P

If you could have a direct sequel to any movie ever, whether or not parties involved have passed away,


Yeah...

Mario & King Koopa, Bob Hoskins & Dennis Hopper, of the SMB movie, my original post, they're both dead too.

[Mew]

Howard the Duck 2.

[THGhost]

I'll admit, I only skimmed your original post. :lol: It's late, I'm hungover. My bad. :P

Here's another then: A sequel to The Crow with Brandon Lee. :rolling:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Howard the Duck 2.

You called? LOL! Yes!! I SO want that one, too!

[THGhost]

Howard the Duck 2.

You called? LOL! Yes!! I SO want that one, too!

Since we're discussing awful movies, how about The Room 2? I would LOVE to see Tommy Wiseau attempt acting again.

[Bry]

The Losers. So unfairly underrated.

Hell Boy 3
Incredibles 2*
Brave 2
Bill and Ted 3*
Pacific Rim 2*

Y'know, for some reason I was exclusively thinking movies that haven't had sequels yet. Yeah, all of these are on my list too.

And I completely forgot about Pacific Rim, Brave, and The Incredibles. I'd love to see those happen as well.

Yeah...

Mario & King Koopa, Bob Hoskins & Dennis Hopper, of the SMB movie, my original post, they're both dead too.

John Leguizamo goes solo in... SMB2: The Year of Luigi

Featuring Danny DeVito as Wart!

[Cure]

I liked The Losers a lot, too, actually. A-Team is another one, now that I think about it.

And Incredibles 2 is happening (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Incredibles-2-What-We-Know-So-Far-70518.html).

[Bry]

I'd love to see another Losers. I was a huge fan of that comic run and though the movie wasn't perfect, it was a lot of fun and had tons of sequel potential. Though I have to wonder if Marvel's Captain America, Gamora, and Heimdall starring in a WB/DC/Vertigo movie would pose some kind of contractual conflict at this point in time...

[Mew]

Since we're discussing awful movies, how about The Room 2? I would LOVE to see Tommy Wiseau attempt acting again.
What about Daredevil 2?

[THGhost]

What about Daredevil 2?

That could be... interesting. :lol:

And Incredibles 2 is happening (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Incredibles-2-What-We-Know-So-Far-70518.html).

As is Pacific Rim 2 (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/pacific-rim-2-confirmed-for-april-7-2017-release-1201251654/) :D

[Wildcat]

There was going to be a Mrs. Doubtfire 2. I've always wondered how to do a storyline since she was turned into a tv character at the end. Even so would have loved to see another one.

Don't know besides that. Most of my favorite movies series are continuing somehow.

I liked Howard the Duck too. I'd see a sequel.

[THGhost]

There was going to be a Mrs. Doubtfire 2. I've always wondered how to do a storyline since she was turned into a tv character at the end. Even so would have loved to see another one.

Apparently "she" was going to enroll as a teacher at the children's college or something so "she" could keep an eye on them. That was the supposed plot a few years ago but it was scrapped. I don't know what the plot was going to be when they decided to give it another go, shortly before Williams' death. It was probably just as silly.

[Amaranthus]

Hellboy 3 cause they need to finish the franchise. Even Ron Perlman who really doesn't want to go through the makeup again feels like he owes one more movie.

This, so much.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd love to see another Losers. I was a huge fan of that comic run and though the movie wasn't perfect, it was a lot of fun and had tons of sequel potential. Though I have to wonder if Marvel's Captain America, Gamora, and Heimdall starring in a WB/DC/Vertigo movie would pose some kind of contractual conflict at this point in time...

The comics were BRUTAL, amiright? :tlol:

[TMNT_Guy]

The film I'd most love to see is Super Mario Bros. 2.

Well, there is the sequel comic (http://www.smbthecomic.com/) that one of the original writers helped plot out.

I can’t really think of any movies that I’d really want to see a sequel to, most of my favorite movies ended in such a satisfying way that I think a sequel would only cheapen the originals. The only technicality I can think of is “Sonic the Hedgehog the Movie” which was just two pilot episodes for a series edited together. I would’ve like to see how that universe worked as a series.

But I can think of several cartoon series I’d love to see get a sequel. So many of my favorite cartoons lasted two seasons before being canceled. Like Freakazoid, Swat Kats(Might get a reboot), Darkwing Duck(Had a brief comic revival, then canceled. Then the comic was going to be brought back in 2015, but delayed due to the new Ducktales reboot coming in 2017.), Earthworm Jim, Sonic the Hedgehog(“SatAM” At least the characters introduced here live on in the comics.), Sheep in the Big City and that’s just to name a few.

[Powder]

Wow, I didn't know about that, thanks!

[sdp]

Well I actually saw a quick interview with Jackie Chan 3 weeks ago and he was the one who mentioned he was in talks about Rush Hour 4 and that he was having dinner with Chris Tucker that night. So yeah who knows, Jackie does talk about a lot of stuff that never plans out but not long ago he was saying that RH4 wouldn't happen anymore.

[CyberCubed]

I thought Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker had a falling out? I remember around the time Rush Hour 3 came out they said it only just barely happened because Jackie didn't want to do another one.

[Shred Head]

I always wanted a sequel to Batman: Mask of the Phantasm I know there were some direct to video movies and while Sub Zero was awesome Batwoman sucked. But none of them really captured seeing a DCAU movie on the big screen.

Hellboy 3 also needs to happen.

[Leo656]

It's very interesting to me how beloved "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm" has become over the years, since at the time it came out it did very poor business compared to what WB was hoping for and the reviews were generally not very good, even among fans. The consensus at the time was, "It's just a really long episode of the cartoon show" and people weren't really digging it.

I like it fine; like I said it's just very interesting to me how people's opinions of it have changed over the years. It was supposed to be huge when it came out, but most people instead called it pointless and unnecessary, whereas since then it's become revered. I have to wonder if it's partly because it was the last GOOD Batman movie in theaters for like 10 years, until "Begins" came out, and people not really appreciating what they had at the time it was given. I'unno.

And yeah, Hellboy 3 would be neat.

[THGhost]

I thought Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker had a falling out? I remember around the time Rush Hour 3 came out they said it only just barely happened because Jackie didn't want to do another one.

Unfortunately, yes. But Rush Hour 3 was terrible so it's no big loss.

[MikeandRaph87]

It's very interesting to me how beloved "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm" has become over the years, since at the time it came out it did very poor business compared to what WB was hoping for and the reviews were generally not very good, even among fans. The consensus at the time was, "It's just a really long episode of the cartoon show" and people weren't really digging it.

I like it fine; like I said it's just very interesting to me how people's opinions of it have changed over the years. It was supposed to be huge when it came out, but most people instead called it pointless and unnecessary, whereas since then it's become revered. I have to wonder if it's partly because it was the last GOOD Batman movie in theaters for like 10 years, until "Begins" came out, and people not really appreciating what they had at the time it was given. I'unno.

And yeah, Hellboy 3 would be neat.

Mask of The Phantasm and Subzero were AWESOME! Characterization, animation, plot, characters involved, action sequences. Better than any live action film ever done. I always wanted to see a third one. No I do not mean Mystery of The Batwoman. That was influenced by the much less than stellar fourth season ran by Kids WB!. Anything like that again and I would be first in line to see it if it was not a direct to DVD release like it really should be by its design.

[Amaranthus]

As is Pacific Rim 2 (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/pacific-rim-2-confirmed-for-april-7-2017-release-1201251654/) :D

Hellboy 3 will be made if Pacific Rim 2 does well.
Unless the interrnet has been lying to me again.

[Andrew NDB]

In order of me wanting to see them...

1) King Conan/Legend of Conan
2) Leon the Professional 2: Matilda
3) Menace II Society 2
4) Lethal Weapon 5 (with EVERYBODY)
5) Predator 4 (WITH ARNOLD)
6) The Godfather Part IV
7) My Blue Heaven 2
9) Gremlins 3
10) Unbreakable 2

It's tough between my top 2. But at least my #1 is really looking like it's getting made.

[Andrew NDB]

I would have rather have seen Spider-Man 4 than Amazing Spider-Man.

Oh, definitely. I didn't even dislike SM3 all that much, but its "failure" was hardly reason enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater after the excellent SM1 and truly excellent SM2. SM1-3 were all clearly Raimi movies, though ASM1 and ASM2 were just done by committee with Webb as their filter.

[Bry]

I still (maybe naively) feel like most of the problems with Spider-Man 3 could have been solved by splitting it into two movies. Do the Sandman story as its own movie, and the Venom story as its own movie, with Harry's descent and rise out of his father's madness bridging the gap. Could have been a lot better than what we got.

[Leo656]

Or skip Sandman. I get what Sam was trying to do, but why "waste" a movie on a bad guy that cost a lot of money but absolutely nobody was begging to see? It should've been Venom from the start, since he's the ONLY villain anyone really wanted in a Spider-Man movie since the day they announced they were making one. People sat through the Goblin movie and the Doc Ock movie with the silent but implicit understanding that the third one would finally be The Venom Movie. And they f*cked it up, because Sam didn't know or care who Venom was.

Well that's bullsh*t, and I'm a huge Raimi fan. Do your f*cking job and give the people what they want to see, not what YOU want to see. Nobody gave a sizzling sh*t about Sandman or his sick kid or his dopey f*cking sweater, and that's the end of it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Um, actually, Leo, some of us DID. Sandman was a big part of the reason I was looking forward to that movie, because he's always been one of my favorite Spidey villains. He's also a staple member of the Sinister Six, and they were setting up for that eventually, WAAY before the series got the reboot. And Raimi DID know and care who Venom was- he always knew he wanted Venom in a Spidey movie, but he wanted Lizard and Vulture, too- it just never happened. Fortunately, we got them in the video games, which were ssupposed to help bridge the gaps and add some material to the world they created. In particular, Black Cat was supposed to have originally been in SM2, but got cut from the script, for some reason. Mostly time and money issues, IIRC.

[Wildcat]

Apparently "she" was going to enroll as a teacher at the children's college or something so "she" could keep an eye on them. That was the supposed plot a few years ago but it was scrapped. I don't know what the plot was going to be when they decided to give it another go, shortly before Williams' death. It was probably just as silly.Ya I know about that idea.

I was thinking she could goto another country as some undercover nanny. Somewhere the tv show wasn't well known or didn't air. Not necessarily to bust a crime.

I guess it's a bit too close to Big Mommas House but I assume that was inspired by Mrs. Doubtfire anyway.

[Leo656]

Oh, come on, Duckie, you're one person. :lol: I still say you could fit everyone who cared about Sandman into a decent-sized bathroom.

And I've read several interviews with Raimi himself where he admitted that he never really followed Spider-Man comics in the more modern era and was only barely familiar with Venom to begin with, that he mostly wanted to showcase the classic villains of his childhood in the movies and only squeezed Venom in because of fan and studio demand. He originally did not have any intentions of having Venom in 3, and no solid plans for after that, either. Just vague, half-hearted promises of "Soon", before the studio finally forced him to commit because the whole thing was getting so expensive, they weren't sure how many movies they were going to make with the same cast and they wanted to get the character people wanted to see into the movies already, before they had to do a soft reboot.

By his own admission, he was forced.

[MikeandRaph87]

I wanted to see Venom since Spider-Man was released in 2002. Eddie Brock is my favorite Marvel baddie, a slight edge over Doc Ock. Sandman? I dont care for the character and his made for movie storyline,but if we can see Venom its cool. In hindsight Venom should have been in a 4th film while the Osborn plot is reaolved and Raimi gets to dramatize Sandman. Eddie Brock could bond with rhe symbiote in the final scene. Black Cat could be added in the 4th film and that would be enough especially with the marriage plot left fangling from the 3rd film. Gwen could a part in helping humanize Eddie and separating him from the Venom symbiote. At one point like Amazing being projected to be 4 films and have 2 spinoffs the Raimi led series was to be at least 5 with a 4th and 5th film entry being filmed back to back. The Lizard and Vulture maybe in a 5th film. The build up for Lizard was already there. Vulture I can see as the #2 foe in the film and a couple of ways to have him be humabized and a threat at rhe same time of Lizard's reign of reptilisn terror. No offense to the ASM two parter I would like to think sone alternate Earth got 5 Raimi led Spider-Man movies. So what do you all think of my idea? Sorry for getting a bit off topic, but Leo656 started it. :P

[MsMarvelDuckie]

True, but Raimi WAS a fan, all the same. And when he said that, it was back when the "modern era" didn't yet include OMD/BND or any of that crap yet, or even any of the stuff with The Other, Civil War, or New Avengers. Morlun was still a new character when the first movie came out, and people were still griping about the Queen, Disassembled, and the Clone Saga, so- that's not surprising. Raimi grew up before all of that. He wasn't a big fan of McFarland's run to begin with, IIRC. It was a bit after his time, I guess. Venom's kind of a one-one character, anyway, and I never really got the hype for him other than that he "looks kewl". Honestly, as symbiotes go, Toxin is FAR more interesting.

And the friction of "will they, won't they" with the three main actors being in it was just a mess anyway. Venom is good for exactly TWO stories in a movie- either the introduction and Brock, or the creation of Carnage. That's IT. Sandman can be used in lots more ways, and works in tons of stories. And I remember PLENTY of Spidey fans being excited to see him on the big screen! For starters, he's so versatile due to his powers, that he makes a MUCH bigger threat, and being part of the Sinister Six gave them even more reason to use him, because it WAS on the table almost from the get-go. There was talk of Lizard as the next villain, and it was even hinted at by having Conners in the first three (either in person, or being mentioned). That's probably why the reboot used him.

[Leo656]

I'unno man. I'm pretty sure the "Sandman Fan Club" is still just you and the mouse in your pocket. :trazz: Otherwise, just you. :tgrin:

And yes, it's pretty much commonly accepted that the entire reason they had Lizard in ASM is because he was on the table for 4. Same thing with Scarecrow being the bad guy for Batman Begins because he was penciled-in as the bad guy in the third Schumacher film that never got made. Nothing ever gets completely wiped out, they just put stuff on the side for a while until they can work it in down the line. I was fine with it, I was curious to see how they'd do Lizard. It was okay.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Go back to DC, ya' loon, LOL!!! The Marvel boards were all OVER that sh*t!! (You forget, I used to Mod over there. I was like a permanent resident.)

Edit: He was okay, but that was a completely different bunch working on him. Raimi's take would've been VERY different, I'd imagine.

[Leo656]

Dude, there's only one Sandman, and his sister's a sexy Goth chick. Well, him and the other guy, with the hat and the gas mask. So Two Sandmans. I want solid proof that there's a contingent out there who recognizes that goofball in the sh*tty Christmas sweater. Give me names. :lol:

I'unno, a little questionable CGI aside I was okay with how the whole Lizard scenario turned out. I kinda liked that whole movie more than most people did. I hated all of 3 and about 1/3 of 2, so I was in a pretty forgiving mood when I saw ASM. Wasn't quite "Amazing" but I had some fun with it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Names? I could give you lots- Mr. Marvel, Feral Female, Jackal, SilverSpidey, and these are just a FEW of the ones who are still active over at Mickey's Tavern. Kazekun, Franshux, Aggamoto.... I could go back and thumb through some of my printouts of old fic posts on Marvel's boards, but you get the idea. But yes, a lot of Marvel fans were happy to get Sandman in a movie.

[MikeandRaph87]

Sorry for typos I cant get used to not having a keyboard.

Of the Sinister Six's classic lineup half were great while half eas la king in interesting. Maybe its just me. Vulture is an elderly man with a flying harness. It. does not ring as interesting. Sandman while he can be fun with cgi I am not invested in his character. After merging eith Hydro-Man he switched sides for awhile so there is a little to work with. Its just if Venom is available just get Sandman over with and move on to Venom. If he eas in another movie I would have been mire invested in seeing the character. It caused Venom crammed into three scenes. More Venom and less Sanman is the majority consensus. Then there is Kraven. A man who hunts another man for sport. He reminds of the villian from Gilligan's Island who hunted the first mate for a 24 hour period simply because he had yet to hunt and conquer fellow humans. Not interested in that concept. Unfortunwtely he could be the next movie villian.

Love Doc Ock and Mysterio and Electro are interesting characters. While its not the way I would have introduced Mysterio its nice to know he will appear in Daredevil next season and am glad for him to get a cinemas soft introduction.

[Leo656]

Names? I could give you lots- Mr. Marvel, Feral Female, Jackal, SilverSpidey, and these are just a FEW of the ones who are still active over at Mickey's Tavern. Kazekun, Franshux, Aggamoto.... I could go back and thumb through some of my printouts of old fic posts on Marvel's boards, but you get the idea. But yes, a lot of Marvel fans were happy to get Sandman in a movie.

Those all sound like very reliable sources... :lol:

I'm down for Mysterio, but only if it's done right. Fishbowl helmet or GTFO. Don't run from it, embrace it. Comics are goddamn ridiculous! Just let them be ridiculous and let the guy wear his goddamn fishbowl helmet! That's how you know it's Mysterio, because he looks like a f*cking asshole! :lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

As a matter of fact, Leo, they ARE reliable sources. Feral and Kazekun were fellow Mods on Marvel (and Feral still is over at Mickeys), Mr. Marvel is THE walking, talking Marvel encyclopedia (and was host of the Marvel Forums Trivia Competition), and several of the others were both long-term and respected members of the fandom/forums. Sorry, dude, but you lose this round, LOL!

Don't know about the general public, but a large chunk of the FAN-base loved Sandman. In fact, VENOM was the one they had the problem with! We had a LONG debate on it after the third movie came out. General consensus was that they f*cked him up. Sandman, on the other hand, most were fine with.

[Andrew NDB]

The months leading up to its production, there was a lot of reports that Raimi was being pressured by the studio to include Venom and kind of caved in, and reluctantly included him. Now I don't doubt them. He only wanted Sandman for 3. That it became a clusterf**k is not his fault... all he could do at any point was to try and mitigate the multiple villains.

[Leo656]

Well nobody doubts that Venom was the one they f*cked up. It was f*cked up from the start because he wasn't supposed to be in it. But that doesn't change the fact that more people would've preferred Venom to be the solo villain if they had to pick one over the other, in which case it probably wouldn't have been so crummy. A lot of what went wrong with Venom was directly related to him being squeezed in as an afterthought, instead of being the proper villain from the start.

Plus, Venom was the villain they teased in the trailers, not Sandman. Venom is what sold the movie to people. It was a bait-and-switch; people thought they were getting Venom, finally, and they got, like, two minutes worth. Ugh. Everything about that third movie and how it was handled is just the sh*ts.

[MikeandRaph87]

Well nobody doubts that Venom was the one they f*cked up. It was f*cked up from the start because he wasn't supposed to be in it. But that doesn't change the fact that more people would've preferred Venom to be the solo villain if they had to pick one over the other, in which case it probably wouldn't have been so crummy. A lot of what went wrong with Venom was directly related to him being squeezed in as an afterthought, instead of being the proper villain from the start.

Plus, Venom was the villain they teased in the trailers, not Sandman. Venom is what sold the movie to people. It was a bait-and-switch; people thought they were getting Venom, finally, and they got, like, two minutes worth. Ugh. Everything about that third movie and how it was handled is just the sh*ts.

Why unceremoniously kill off Eddie Brock that way? Come to think of it Harry did not do much in the final fight either. He threw a pumpkin bomb then took a hit meant for Peter which killed him. That was it. Sure make it look like the symbiote is destroyed, but do not kill the main host! Sandman could have died instead of Peter letting the man go! I would have seriously waited for Venom to be the featured villain in the fourth film. Give a movie of build up and the payoff in the next. Venom is my favorite Marvel villain so to get him done right it would have been better off. Raimi gets the villain he wants and we get the one we want with a better payoff.

[Leo656]

I'm sure that was kind of the general idea at one point, and then what happened was they stuffed two movies' worth of stuff into one, because that's sure what it feels like when you watch it. And I'm almost positive that it's because the studio wasn't sure what Spider-Man 4 was even going to be. Before 3 even came out, before there was even any talk of a reboot, there was strong speculation that the entire cast, and even Raimi, would have to be replaced for the fourth movie due to budget reasons, even if the movies were to be set in the same universe as the first three. That made everyone nervous, because anytime you make sweeping changes like that it makes fans uncertain, so they stuffed as much as they could into 3, including Venom, just in case they had problems getting the fourth movie off the ground.

3 just had way, way too much going on to be any good. It tried to do way to much and did all of it poorly.

[MikeandRaph87]

I'm sure that was kind of the general idea at one point, and then what happened was they stuffed two movies' worth of stuff into one, because that's sure what it feels like when you watch it. And I'm almost positive that it's because the studio wasn't sure what Spider-Man 4 was even going to be. Before 3 even came out, before there was even any talk of a reboot, there was strong speculation that the entire cast, and even Raimi, would have to be replaced for the fourth movie due to budget reasons, even if the movies were to be set in the same universe as the first three. That made everyone nervous, because anytime you make sweeping changes like that it makes fans uncertain, so they stuffed as much as they could into 3, including Venom, just in case they had problems getting the fourth movie off the ground.

3 just had way, way too much going on to be any good. It tried to do way to much and did all of it poorly.

It did it better than Amazing Spider-Man 2! It also used Gwen Stacey in a different way. As soon as I read that Emma Stone was playing Gwen Stacey instead of Mary Jane Watson I knew she was destined to be killed off. Bryce playing Eddie's love interest instead allowed a different path for her and add to the fuel to create Venom and tension in Peter's relationship with MJ. It was different in part because Eddie was introduced in 1986. 13 years after Gwen was killed off.

I remember the budget woes which is why they were tentatively planning back to back movies to be filmed. It was a matter of securing the cast without having to pay them x amount. In the end it did not happen because of creative direction which was already present due to the execution of the 3rd film. If the director is left alone without much studio meddling the product should be better.

[chrisdude]

I always figured there'd be a sequel to Over the Hedge. That movie was great, but perhaps lost in the mix of all the animated movies of the time...

I guess my biggest thing would be this Bill & Ted 3 that keeps sounding like it's going to happen every other year. The series certainly doesn't need another film, but I can't help but want it when I know that it's possible.

Star Trek 7: The Search for Kirk
Sometime after the events of Star Trek Generations, Spock rounds up a crew of Section 31 agents and sets out to resurrect his BFF for one last secret mission. Kirk and Spock save a species. The movie ends with Kirk hiding out on that fountain of youth planet from Insurrection, where he will live forever. Like he's supposed to.

[Cure]

I always figured there'd be a sequel to Over the Hedge. That movie was great, but perhaps lost in the mix of all the animated movies of the time...


Yoooo you right, dawg. The part where the squirrel drinks the energy drink KILLED ME.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Hah, I once knew a real-life "Hammy". That squirrel was insane! We named him Nutzy because he acted like he was crazy.

[Mew]

I wanna see a good Hulk movie. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet!

[Autbot_Benz]

I wanna see a good Hulk movie. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet!

http://i62.tinypic.com/13yjfpu.jpg

Best Hulk Movie pre Ruffalo.

[Cure]

Best Hulk Movie pre Ruffalo.

...and what's the best Hulk movie POST Ruffalo?

[Mew]

Meh. I wanna see a Marvel Cinematic Universe Hulk movie. Big budget, awesome CGI, ect.

[Autbot_Benz]

...and what's the best Hulk movie POST Ruffalo?
don't think there is one. I don't think Marvel has any more Hulk movie planned right now

[Cure]

Right, exactly.

Meh. I wanna see a Marvel Cinematic Universe Hulk movie. Big budget, awesome CGI, ect.

That movie IS part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[Autbot_Benz]

Meh. I wanna see a Marvel Cinematic Universe Hulk movie. Big budget, awesome CGI, ect.

It is part of the MCU because it has a pre Avengers Cut scene

[Mew]

It is part of the MCU because it has a pre Avengers Cut scene
Really? :teek:

[Autbot_Benz]

Really? :teek:

ya it is one of the 6 movies part of Phase one Avengers Assemble .

[Mew]

ya it is one of the 6 movies part of Phase one Avengers Assemble .
Interesting!
:mango:

[Electric]

Don't know if this counts, but would've loved to have the cancelled Batman Triumphant movie, after Batman and Robin.

I know the last movie was garbage, but I think this unseen 5th movie would've been soooo much better. With villains like Scarecrow and Harley, it would've toned down some of the cheesy unbelievability of the last one. Why they ever thought to put Ivy and Freeze, two of the only true super powered batman villains, as the two villains is beyond me. While on their own they're both great, together it just let to too much "how the hell did that happen?". But Scarecrow would've brought back a little darker tone like batman returns with penguin, and similarly Harley could've been great, adding a cool plot like cat woman in the same movie.

Also, two of my favorite all time villains are Harley and Scarecrow, so major let down it never got made

[THGhost]

Ang Lee's Hulk wasn't that bad either.

...and what's the best Hulk movie POST Ruffalo?

Since Marvel hasn't made one since The Avengers, the answer to that question is no.

I always figured there'd be a sequel to Over the Hedge. That movie was great, but perhaps lost in the mix of all the animated movies of the time...

I loved that movie. :lol: