Disney's The Lion Guard

[TigerClaw]

Sneak peak for Disney's new Lion King animated series titled 'The Lion Guardian' This one is about Simba's 2nd cub name Kion.

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[TheBlueTurtle1]

WOW. I been keeping an eye out for news on this. It looks alot better than I thought. I shall be watching and looking forward to this.

[Raph's Girl]

There'll be an even longer sneak peak this sunday at D23 Expo.

Also, the cast has been revealed:
James Earl Jones as Jedi Ghost Mufasa
Max Charles as Kion
Diamond White as Fuli the Cheetah
Dusan Brown as Beshte the Hippo
Atticus Shaffer as Ono the Egret
Joshua Rush as Bunga the honey badger
Rob Lowe as Simba
Gabrielle Union as Nala
Kevin Schon as Timon
Ernie Sabella as Pumbaa
Khary Payton as Rafiki

http://blogs.disney.com/insider/2015/08/12/watch-the-first-clip-from-the-lion-guard-and-find-out-whos-taking-on-the-roles-of-simba-and-nala/

[ObiWanFan4life]

It's looks fine, but what I'm curious about is that mark on Kion's shoulder, what is that, this show's version of a cutie mark?

[TurtleTitan97]

There'll be an even longer sneak peak this sunday at D23 Expo.

Also, the cast has been revealed:
James Earl Jones as Jedi Ghost Mufasa
Max Charles as Kion
Diamond White as Fuli the Cheetah
Dusan Brown as Beshte the Hippo
Atticus Shaffer as Ono the Egret
Joshua Rush as Bunga the honey badger
Rob Lowe as Simba
Gabrielle Union as Nala
Kevin Schon as Timon
Ernie Sabella as Pumbaa
Khary Payton as Rafiki

http://blogs.disney.com/insider/2015/08/12/watch-the-first-clip-from-the-lion-guard-and-find-out-whos-taking-on-the-roles-of-simba-and-nala/

So I'm guessing Kovu isn't going to be appearing in this series? Wonder how or if they'll explain his absence?

[Raph's Girl]

So I'm guessing Kovu isn't going to be appearing in this series? Wonder how or if they'll explain his absence?

Kovu might be explained in either the movie in November or the books coming out in January: Return of the Roar, Can't Wait to be Queen, Bunga the Wise, Meet the New Guard, and Kion's Animal Alphabet.

Can't Wait to Be Queen would probably be the one that explains Kovu.

It's looks fine, but what I'm curious about is that mark on Kion's shoulder, what is that, this show's version of a cutie mark?

Wait what? What mark? *watches it again* Well Uh er... Im sure Rifiki will know....Perhaps this is why he becomes a guard in the first place?

[ObiWanFan4life]

Wait what? What mark? *watches it again* Well Uh er... Im sure Rifiki will know....Perhaps this is why he becomes a guard in the first place?

Hmm, I wonder if all the guards have similar marks. I won't be surprised if that honey badger is the show's answer to Spike. :lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Really disappointed that Nathan Lane isn't doing Timon. Wait, that didn't come out right. His VOICE, I mean. And why isn't Rafiki being voiced by "Benson" again? (Sorry for got his actual name.)

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I really hope Kovu IS in this. Surely he can't be written out?

[TigerClaw]

I really hope Kovu IS in this. Surely he can't be written out?
And what about Kiara who happens to be Simba's daughter from the 2nd movie.

[TurtleTitan97]

And what about Kiara who happens to be Simba's daughter from the 2nd movie.

She's already been confirmed a long time ago when this series was announced.

[TigerClaw]

She's already been confirmed a long time ago when this series was announced.
Oh ok besides Kovu, I wonder if his sister Vitani shows up.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Well, it's made by the same team behind Star VS. The Forces of Evil, so maybe this will be a pleasant surprise.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

She's already been confirmed a long time ago when this series was announced.

Yea that's what I thought.

Maybe they have not revealed all the characters yet?

Can't imagine them writing out the main star of one of the movies?

Lion king 2 is the only Disney direct to VHS/DVD I like, and Kovu was awesome.

[Raph's Girl]

Really disappointed that Nathan Lane isn't doing Timon. Wait, that didn't come out right. His VOICE, I mean. And why isn't Rafiki being voiced by "Benson" again? (Sorry for got his actual name.)

I think Robert Guiluame retired from acting. He had a stroke a while back and has been taking it easy.

And what about Kiara who happens to be Simba's daughter from the 2nd movie.

She's in it. We just don't know who's voicing her yet.

[BubblyShell22]

Sucks that Timon isn't being voiced by Nathan Lane, but I'm glad Ernie's returning as Pumbaa. Also thought maybe Cam Clarke would voice Simba since he did so in the animated series.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Sucks that Timon isn't being voiced by Nathan Lane, but I'm glad Ernie's returning as Pumbaa. Also thought maybe Cam Clarke would voice Simba since he did so in the animated series.

Which begs the question, why couldn't they get Nathan Lane back? It's not like he's busy with other projects.

[oldmanwinters]

What in the world? I hadn't heard anything about this, but it looks interesting... if weird.

I much prefer animated series as follow-ups to classic Disney films as opposed to traditional sequel features. Man, I hated The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride.

[Raph's Girl]

A new Lion Guard clip! This one shows more characters and appears to be part of the opening sequence of the show:

http://bcove.me/gj5ztiwp

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/11/lion-king-spinoff-voice-cast-rob-lowe-gabrielle-union

[sdp]

Actually this is Simba's third cub.

[Raph's Girl]

Actually this is Simba's third cub.

Yeah yeah. We all know about Kopa.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Third cub? When did they have another? Never heard about it.

[TigerClaw]

Third cub? When did they have another? Never heard about it.
Simba doesn't have a 3rd cub, its something that isn't cannon.

[sdp]

If you're going to take the explanation of Kovu from an officially licensed book then you need to take Simba's first cub into account since it comes from an equally "canon" source not to mention the ending of the first movie clearly shows a male which was retconned in the sequel. Fans even speculate that he died which is why Simba is so overprotective in the second movie. Counting we have Lion King 1 1/2 and the Timon and Pumba cartoon that are also canon I don't see why having this decently written book from the 90s automatically be considered noncanon. While my comment was mostly tongue in cheek the point still stands.

[Slade]

Yo, I've never even watched the second movie.

I didn't know there could be debate's on Lion King canon..how crazy...

[BubblyShell22]

I loved the sequel and the third movie, too. Definitely can't wait for this.

[sdp]

The second movie was an early Disney Direct to Video release and it's fairly good. It's a bit predictable and of course doesn't match the original in story/quality/animation but it's an often forgotten movie that is lumped with bad Disney sequels while it's actually pretty good to stand on its own as a good sequel. The third movie "1 1/2" is basically the first movie told through Timon and Pumba's perspective with a few hijinx here and there. It was highly praised when it came out ten years ago but I only found it slightly amusing. I only remember watching a few episodes of the Timon and Pumba cartoon as a kid but I didn't like it. I would count it as a non-canon spin-off since they interact with humans in the modern world but apparently Simba and others do make official appearances and if "1 1/2" is canon then why shouldn't this show also be.

Yo, I've never even watched the second movie.

I didn't know there could be debate's on Lion King canon..how crazy...

This is the internet there can be debates over canon of pretty much anything. LK Canon is fairly tame in comparison to some of the things people get hardcore about.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Sounds cool

[TigerClaw]

The second movie was an early Disney Direct to Video release and it's fairly good. It's a bit predictable and of course doesn't match the original in story/quality/animation but it's an often forgotten movie that is lumped with bad Disney sequels while it's actually pretty good to stand on its own as a good sequel. The third movie "1 1/2" is basically the first movie told through Timon and Pumba's perspective with a few hijinx here and there. It was highly praised when it came out ten years ago but I only found it slightly amusing. I only remember watching a few episodes of the Timon and Pumba cartoon as a kid but I didn't like it. I would count it as a non-canon spin-off since they interact with humans in the modern world but apparently Simba and others do make official appearances and if "1 1/2" is canon then why shouldn't this show also be.



This is the internet there can be debates over canon of pretty much anything. LK Canon is fairly tame in comparison to some of the things people get hardcore about.
There are fans who love the characters from the 2nd movie, So its good that this new series is keeping up with continuity.

[Jester]

I think Robert Guiluame retired from acting. He had a stroke a while back and has been taking it easy.

Man...I never knew. Much like Tim Curry's stroke this blind sided me.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Man...I never knew. Much like Tim Curry's stroke this blind sided me.

Tim Curry had a stroke? When did this happen?

[Raph's Girl]

Tim Curry had a stroke? When did this happen?

Tim had a stroke in 2011 but only recently people found out about it.

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new clip from The Lion Guard, Which is an extended version of one of the earlier clips.

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[TheBlueTurtle1]

Looks awesome, can't wait!

[Raph's Girl]

From D23 a clip of the Lion Guard presentation that explains what the Lion Guard is all about (plus the theme song).

Apparantly it's always been the job of the 2nd born cub to lead The Lion Guard, a group of animals who protect the pride lands. The head always has the uber power of the ancestors. Apparantly Scar had this power but abused it and lost it before the first movie (but of course!).

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[ObiWanFan4life]

From D23 a clip of the Lion Guard presentation that explains what the Lion Guard is all about (plus the theme song).

Apparantly it's always been the job of the 2nd born cub to lead The Lion Guard, a group of animals who protect the pride lands. The head always has the uber power of the ancestors. Apparantly Scar had this power but abused it and lost it before the first movie (but of course!).

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Why is it that only the second born child gets the powers? And why is it that no one mentions this in the movies?

[Raph's Girl]

Why is it that only the second born child gets the powers? And why is it that no one mentions this in the movies?

One word: retcon :roll:

All will be explained in the Lion Guard pilot film in November.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I wonder if they will explain Kopas death? You can't rewrite the ending of Lion King 1.

Maybe Rafiki dropped him as soon as the credits hit lol

[Raph's Girl]

I wonder if they will explain Kopas death? You can't rewrite the ending of Lion King 1.

Maybe Rafiki dropped him as soon as the credits hit lol

Kopa is not canon. They specifically state that Kion is the 2nd born cub.

[TigerClaw]

From D23 a clip of the Lion Guard presentation that explains what the Lion Guard is all about (plus the theme song).

Apparantly it's always been the job of the 2nd born cub to lead The Lion Guard, a group of animals who protect the pride lands. The head always has the uber power of the ancestors. Apparently Scar had this power but abused it and lost it before the first movie (but of course!).

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That's cool, it's good its gonna be on Disney Channel instead of Disney XD, I don't have that channel.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I wonder if they will explain Kopas death? You can't rewrite the ending of Lion King 1.

Maybe Rafiki dropped him as soon as the credits hit lol


AFAIK, there was never a boy cub to begin with. LK 2 picked up right where the first one left off, with Rafiki saying "it's a girl". There was really no indication of the cub's gender initially anyway, which is why I was confused when a "second" cub was mentioned. Kiara was ALWAYS the first-born cub. She's the heir, pure and simple. Though given that she can't be "king" anyway, it hardly matters. Kovu took that spot.


Kopa is not canon. They specifically state that Kion is the 2nd born cub.


So the "missing cub" is just a misunderstanding of Kiara's birth, then. Glad that's cleared up.

[TigerClaw]

I wonder if Kion will have a love interest, kind of like you have Simba & Nala and Kiara & Kovu.

One of the characters on the show is a female cheetah, You think maybe those two will have some kind of relationship?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I think that's taking "jungle fever" a little to literally, y'know? Both cats, sure, but- wrong species, man....

[TigerClaw]

I think that's taking "jungle fever" a little to literally, y'know? Both cats, sure, but- wrong species, man....
I know that Cheetahs and Lions can't procreate, even though Lions and Tigers can.

But what if Kion likes that female cheetah, but they both have a platonic friendship?

[Slade]

This is the internet there can be debates over canon of pretty much anything. LK Canon is fairly tame in comparison to some of the things people get hardcore about.

No, no. I mean I didn't know there was enough Lion King to actually have a canon debate. Not if this or that is canon.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

At the end of the day, the only TRUE source is Lion king 1, and at the end of that movie the cub is clearly NOT kiarra.

So if anything is not ture it would be anything after Lion king. It in suggested (in around about way) that it was possible that Kopa was killed by the Outlanders in Lionking 2.

I don't care about Kopa, that much about it. But I am afraid that the cub at the end of Lion king 1 had to be included in some way.

Kion is the 2nd born living cub, maybe that is the way to look at it.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Had a quick look around about Kopa, he was nothing more than a character created for a book. Even the author has said the same.

So I guess Kiara is the cub at the end of number 1, guess you have to ignor the fact she looks a bit different.

Oh well, I guess Kion seems pretty cool, we will have to wait and see if the show is any good.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok. Lion Guard's pilot film will air Nov 22nd at 7pm on the Disney Channel. More cast has been announced so here's the full cast:

James Earl Jones: Mufasa
Ernie Sabella: Pumbaa
Rob Lowe: Simba
Gabrielle Union: Nala
Max Charles: Kion
Eden Riegel: Kiara
Joshua Rush: Bunga the Honey Badger
Atticus Shaffer: Ono the Cattle Egret
Diamond White: Fuli the Cheetah
Dusan Brown: Beshte the Hippo
Sarah Hyland: Tiifu a female lion cub
Madison Pettis: Zuri a female lion cub
Khary Payton: Rafiki
Jeff Bennett: Zazu
Jonny Rees: Mzingo a hyena
Andrew Kishino: Janja, leader of the Hyena's
Vargus Mason: Cheezi a hyena
Kevin Schon: Chungu a hyena and Timon.
Alex Cartana: Twiga, a Girraffe

This cast list just leads to a couple questions....namely who the heck the parents are of Tifu and Zuri?! Also, where's Kovu??

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2015/10/09/disneys-the-lion-guard-return-of-the-roar-primetime-television-movie-event-to-air-on-disney-channel-303111/20151009disney01/

[TheBlueTurtle1]

We need to hear that Kovu is in this!

[Netkeeper]

This cast list just leads to a couple questions....namely who the heck the parents are of Tifu and Zuri?!
There's only two options, father-wise.

[Leo656]

Simba must have both the most awesome and most awkward family reunions. :lol:

Seriously, if it's anything like real life, he's gotta have more illegitimate children than Steven Tyler. :lol:

[TigerClaw]

Simba must have both the most awesome and most awkward family reunions. :lol:

Seriously, if it's anything like real life, he's gotta have more illegitimate children than Steven Tyler. :lol:
True, since he probably have cubs with many of the lionesses.

[BubblyShell22]

Exactly. You can't tell me he's not getting some action from someone other than Nala. Lions don't just choose one mate and if that's the case, then, yeah, it might be a bit awkward for him.

[senpai]

Nala is totally Mufasa's father. Oh uhhhhh! :lol: Nature, you sneaky little devil you!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

WHU??!! That made no sense. Don't you mean daughter?!

And given that male lions kill the cubs of their predecessors to make the lionesses go into heat, I'd say that the Lion King movies strayed a bit from real nature in that respect. If they hadn't, Nala would've been killed by Scar after he offed Mufasa and took over. Simba was run off, so he was exempt, but any other cubs would've been mauled! And yes, they DO breed with pretty much every female in the pride, so....

[senpai]

Huh? *rereads* Oops! lol xP Nala is Mufasa's daughter, yes, thank you.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

And I just laughed at how perfect your avatar was for that gaffe, LOL!! It looks like Leo was just trying to cover his slip-up. (I know it was the tea-time scene, but his face just has that OOPS! look....)

[senpai]

And I just laughed at how perfect your avatar was for that gaffe, LOL!! It looks like Leo was just trying to cover his slip-up. (I know it was the tea-time scene, but his face just has that OOPS! look....)

Lol! :trazz: Yes. Quite. That is how the turtle do. *in True Facts faux Morgan Freeman voice*

[BubblyShell22]

Ha, I loved that gaffe. Good one, Senpai. And, yeah, they kind of had to stray from fact for some of it or it would have been too traumatizing for the kids. And considering they already had Mufasa dying, they really had to be careful. But this show looks cute.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno about traumatizing, but certainly it would lead to some very uncomfortable questions surrounding parentage of all the cubs. Not to mention just WHO the father of those other cubs in LK2 was if not Scar himself.... (Siira{sp?} was explicitly his mate, but Kovu wasn't HIS?! Does that mean he's Simba's? He's the same age as Kiara, but he's considered Scar's heir.... And whose were the two older ones?)

[senpai]

Wasn't there another male in LK2? He was kind of dorky and dangly? Maybe he was Kovu's dad? I really only saw that one once because I didn't think it was very good--anyway, if that's a dumb question, my bad.

I guess it's just one of those things where we're not supposed to question Disney.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Ah, no, he was a half-grown cub, supposedly Scar's son, along with the female "teen-cub" that Siira was mother to. The weird thing is that Kovu was supposed to be their "little brother" somehow. Siira was his mom, but he was never stated to be Scar's cub, in spite of being chosen as his heir.... It's complicated.

[BubblyShell22]

Zira was Scar's mate and I believe Nuka and Vitani were her cubs. But it makes no sense for Kovu not to be Scar's because he looks just like him, so I always maintain that Scar is his dad.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Zira was Scar's mate and I believe Nuka and Vitani were her cubs. But it makes no sense for Kovu not to be Scar's because he looks just like him, so I always maintain that Scar is his dad.

Zira says in the film Scar was NOT kovs father. That he was hand picked as the next in line.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, she did say that, but he looks an awful lot like Scar and since Scar was the only other male in that pride, you can bet he's Kovu's dad. They just lied.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

True, because the only other option would be Simba!

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Yeah, she did say that, but he looks an awful lot like Scar and since Scar was the only other male in that pride, you can bet he's Kovu's dad. They just lied.


If you want to take this whole thing out of context we can! In the Lion kingdom male Lions will often form collision, with other NON related male lions, to help defend their prides. Normally it is a 2(sometimes 3 or more brother) that rule together with 1 being the dominant.

But it does happen.

So mabe Scar had a collison with a another male, who either left or was killed, but was the father of Kovu.

They said Scar is not his father, just take that as it being fact. It's only a light hearted movie lol.

[TigerClaw]

If you want to take this whole thing out of context we can! In the Lion kingdom male Lions will often form collision, with other NON related male lions, to help defend their prides. Normally it is a 2(sometimes 3 or more brother) that rule together with 1 being the dominant.

But it does happen.

So mabe Scar had a collison with a another male, who either left or was killed, but was the father of Kovu.

They said Scar is not his father, just take that as it being fact. It's only a light hearted movie lol.
When a pride has two males who are brothers, they both share the lionesses so the cubs would belong to either of them.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

new trailer
https://twitter.com/GMA

it seems Kiara is a cub in this. So that would explain why Kovu is not in. Maybe he will be in as a cub at some point.

This means Kion could be the eldest cub from the same litter??? It also might mean they are going to make so Lion king 2 never happened!!

I don't know what to think.

[TigerClaw]

new trailer
https://twitter.com/GMA

it seems Kiara is a cub in this. So that would explain why Kovu is not in. Maybe he will be in as a cub at some point.

This means Kion could be the eldest cub from the same litter??? It also might mean they are going to make so Lion king 2 never happened!!

I don't know what to think.
So basically this series takes place between Lion King 1 and 2.
Here's the direct link to the trailer.
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/655050076079849472

Youtube version

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[Raph's Girl]

it seems Kiara is a cub in this. So that would explain why Kovu is not in. Maybe he will be in as a cub at some point.

Simba may have yelled Kiara's name but I think she's an adult in this. The cast lists 2 female cubs. That could have been them in the trailer.

[senpai]

Thanks for the new trailer. This looks way too juvenile for me to enjoy, unfortunately. Also, why do I get a MLP vibe? Can it be the marks on the characters? :P

[BubblyShell22]

If you want to take this whole thing out of context we can! In the Lion kingdom male Lions will often form collision, with other NON related male lions, to help defend their prides. Normally it is a 2(sometimes 3 or more brother) that rule together with 1 being the dominant.

But it does happen.

So mabe Scar had a collison with a another male, who either left or was killed, but was the father of Kovu.

They said Scar is not his father, just take that as it being fact. It's only a light hearted movie lol.

Nope, I don't buy that given that Kovu looks like Scar and that he and Simba are the only males. Scar's dead, so if Scar isn't Kovu's father, that would make him be Simba's kid and Kovu sure as hell doesn't look like Simba. So, by process of elimination, Kovu is Scar's kid unless there was another brother we never knew about and if that's the case, then he could definitely be Kovu's dad.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Nope, I don't buy that given that Kovu looks like Scar and that he and Simba are the only males. Scar's dead, so if Scar isn't Kovu's father, that would make him be Simba's kid and Kovu sure as hell doesn't look like Simba. So, by process of elimination, Kovu is Scar's kid unless there was another brother we never knew about and if that's the case, then he could definitely be Kovu's dad.

Or you taking it was to seriously! there are dozens of other males that often shift in and out of pride territories.

If you want incest in your Lion king stories, that's up to you, but ill take what they say in the movie thank you. That Kovu is NOT Scars son. That is good enough for me.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

The only problem with that theory is that we KNOW Scar and Mufasa were the only two males in the pride until Mufasa's death, and then it was JUST Scar until Simba returned and killed him. So that leaves- nobody else. Lion prides do NOT have males shifting in and out- once a male (or males) take over a pride, that's it. They will run off any other males who attempt to join, unless the other proves stronger and runs off the original male, in which case the new one kills all the cubs. If the male(s) of a pride die, then either the oldest surviving adult male takes over, or a new one will move in- and again, when the new one moves in, he kills all the cubs! (And drives out any males near breeding age.)

Nuka being the only other male who was ever born into the pride besides Kovu, and Nuka wasn't yet "of age". So unless Scar was letting another male poach in his territory (highly doubtful, given he killed his own brother to rule!) then Scar HAD to be Kovu's dad- unless Simba was doing his "kingly duties" by the other females....

[TigerClaw]

The only problem with that theory is that we KNOW Scar and Mufasa were the only two males in the pride until Mufasa's death, and then it was JUST Scar until Simba returned and killed him. So that leaves- nobody else. Lion prides do NOT have males shifting in and out- once a male (or males) take over a pride, that's it. They will run off any other males who attempt to join, unless the other proves stronger and runs off the original male, in which case the new one kills all the cubs. If the male(s) of a pride die, then either the oldest surviving adult male takes over, or a new one will move in- and again, when the new one moves in, he kills all the cubs! (And drives out any males near breeding age.)

Nuka being the only other male who was ever born into the pride besides Kovu, and Nuka wasn't yet "of age". So unless Scar was letting another male poach in his territory (highly doubtful, given he killed his own brother to rule!) then Scar HAD to be Kovu's dad- unless Simba was doing his "kingly duties" by the other females....
I read somewhere that Scar was once a Lion Guard.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

The only problem with that theory is that we KNOW Scar and Mufasa were the only two males in the pride until Mufasa's death, and then it was JUST Scar until Simba returned and killed him. So that leaves- nobody else. Lion prides do NOT have males shifting in and out- once a male (or males) take over a pride, that's it. They will run off any other males who attempt to join, unless the other proves stronger and runs off the original male, in which case the new one kills all the cubs. If the male(s) of a pride die, then either the oldest surviving adult male takes over, or a new one will move in- and again, when the new one moves in, he kills all the cubs! (And drives out any males near breeding age.)

Nuka being the only other male who was ever born into the pride besides Kovu, and Nuka wasn't yet "of age". So unless Scar was letting another male poach in his territory (highly doubtful, given he killed his own brother to rule!) then Scar HAD to be Kovu's dad- unless Simba was doing his "kingly duties" by the other females....

You only know the male Liones that ruled in the pride land. You know nothing about the outlanders, other that at some point Scar was the pride leader. You don't know what their situation was before Scar met Zira. Maybe Zira was straggler that was thrown out of another pride, whilst pregnant.

So many different theories, can be look at. You have to take what is true from the movie itself. They clearly say Kovu is NOT Scars son. They don't even say Nuka was Scars son.

If they said in the movie tht Kovu was Scars son, then I would not disagree with you, but they don't.

Like I said if you want incenst in your Lion king movies, that is up to you.

I take it for what it is.

If you stop and think about it. How did Scar even meet Kovu and name him the next in line to rule? Kovu and Kiara are the same age. Simba and Nala did'nt even have Kiara till they took the Pridelands back, and Scar was dead lol. So Unless Scar buggered off half way between his fight with Simba and quickly met up with Zira, then he can't be Kovus father or even known about his existence.

[BubblyShell22]

It's not that we want incest in our Lion King movies, and that's probably why they made it seem like Kovu wasn't Scar's son because if that was the case, he would be Kiara's cousin and that would be a whole can of worms. But we're saying that based on what we know, there were only Mufasa and Scar as the male lions at Pride Rock. And if Scar ruled the Outlanders before his death (they could have been there when Scar took over Pride Rock) then that makes him the only male lion there until Simba returns giving very little options as to who could have fathered Kovu. We may be taking this a bit too seriously, but it's something that's fun to speculate about.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Ok fair enough, although I would hardly call incest fun to speculate over lol

[MsMarvelDuckie]

You dont read much fan-fic, do you, LOL?! But yeah, I agree with Bubbly. And it WAS explicitly stated that tbe outlanders were once part of the pride from Pride Rock. They were kicked out for following Scar. And Nuka mutters something about him being Scars true heir at one point. So he and Kovu are at least half brothers, since Zira is mother to both.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, incest is part of the animal kingdom in some respects, and lions are not adverse to that. We're just saying by process of elimination that it has to be either Scar, Mufasa, or Simba who could be Kovu's dad, and since he and Kiara are the same age and based on his looks, it has to be Scar. That's all.

[Raph's Girl]

Welp... looks like it's official. No Kovu in this. Kiara and Kion appear to be from the same litter.

Here's some new footage:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sneak-peek-rob-lowe-gets-animated-as-simba-in-155927580.html

[TigerClaw]

Welp... looks like it's official. No Kovu in this. Kiara and Kion appear to be from the same litter.

Here's some new footage:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sneak-peek-rob-lowe-gets-animated-as-simba-in-155927580.html
So it takes place before Lion King 2? Kovu was from another pride at the time.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

*sighs* No, they weren't from another pride they were outcasts from Pride Rock who were booted out for remaining loyal to Scar. Essentially, they were deserters who chose to ignore the rightful king(Simba) when he took over. So they were cast out. I'm guessing it had to do with Zira being Scar' mate and trying to claim the line of succession for one of her cubs(probably Nuka), or for Kovu after he was born. It just happened "off-creen" between the two movies or very early during LK2.

[Raph's Girl]

New Clip from The Lion Guard, which will premier on the 22nd.

Kion: "Are you...?"
Mufasa: "Yes Kion... I am your grandfather..." :lol:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/17/lion-guard-james-earl-jones-mufasa

[MsMarvelDuckie]

New Star Wars movie premiers in less than a month- is anyone REALLY surprised they tossed a Vader reference into this??!! :trolleye: :trazz:

[TigerClaw]

The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar airs tonight on the Disney Channel at 7pm EST.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome. I'll have to be sure to watch it.

[TigerClaw]

Awesome. I'll have to be sure to watch it.
I set my Tivo to record it.

[Raph's Girl]

Well after watching the pilot I have to say... it's a cute show. The songs were a bit um...cheesy but that works for a kids show. Bunga's quickly become my favorite. He's the exact opposite of Timon and Pumbaa (I'd like to hear his backstory now) and even has his opposite Hakuna Matata (altho I don't think Zuka Zooma is as catchy a motto).

Khary Payton does an excellent job tho as Rafiki.

[BubblyShell22]

I loved the special and thought it was very cute and really had that LK feel to it. Khary Payton did a great job as Rafiki and even the guy who voices Timon sounded very similar to Nathan Lane. Bunga is cute, though I love Buli, too. I can't wait to see the series that comes after this movie.

[BabyTurtles]

I think my fav is Fuli the cheetah ^_^ so far.

[Raph's Girl]

Looks like the soundtrack will be out Jan 8th, 2016 (happy birthday to me!)! You can currently pr-order it on Amazon.com

Im rather curious about Fuli's song

1. Call of the Guard (The Lion Guard Theme) (The Lion Guard Chorus)
2. A Beautiful Day (Ni Siku Nzuri) (Beau Black)
3. Zuka Zama (Bunga)
4. Tonight We Strike (Hyenas and Janja and Mzingo)
5. Kion's Lament (Kion)
6. Here Comes the Lion Guard (Beau Black)
7. We're the Same (Sisi Ni Sawa) (Jasiri and Kion)
8. Outta the Way (Cheezi and Chungu and Janja)
9. Duties of the King (Simba and Zazu)
10. Bunga the Wise (Bunga and Pumbaa and Timon)
11. My Own Way (FuLi)
12. Jackal Style (Rairai)
13. Panic and Run (The Hyenas)
14. It Is Time (Beau Black)
15. Call of the Guard (Full Version) (The Lion Guard Chorus)

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lion-Guard-Soundtrack/dp/B0173NN634

[ranger_scout]

I saw it on Sunday and I thought it was a nice little made for TV movie for families. The very beginning with the sun rising and the epic music brought back some really great memories. The songs were also catchy. Maybe I will re-watch sometime over Thanksgiving week.

[ranger_scout]

An interactive experience for kids, “The Lion Guard Adventure” starts February 7 at Disney World's Animal Kingdom.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/LGD80687-550x566.png

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/01/the-lion-guard-adventure-interactive-experience-for-kids-coming-soon-to-disneys-animal-kingdom/

[Zulithe]

Kion is my favorite :P They did a great job on all the voice actor choices. I can't tell if it's the same actors doing the singing but in Kion's song it sounds very much like the same actor.

While it of course uses cheaper animation like most TV shows they have worked hard to emulate that 90s Disney feature film animation style and IMO they have done a great job at that. No complaints about the animation here.

I also found some Lion Guard merch at target a few days ago! I bought Kion, Bunga and Fuli posable figures. They did not have Beshte.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok so Kovu, Vitani, and Nuka were confirmed earlier this year as showing up at one point. Well mark yer calenders folks for Nov 11th as the episode is titled Lions of the Outlands!! No info on what the episode is about but it's safe to assume this is the ep we've all been waiting for!! :o *hugs her Fuli plushie* :D

[retr0pia75]

I enjoy the show, but there's one thing about it that just baffles me, and it's the fact that it's a midquel to the second film. I mean, couldn't they have just set it after it and thus avoid any confusion as to why Kion and the rest of the Guard are nowhere to be seen?

[Utrommaniac]

New Clip from The Lion Guard, which will premier on the 22nd.

Kion: "Are you...?"
Mufasa: "Yes Kion... I am your grandfather..." :lol:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/17/lion-guard-james-earl-jones-mufasa

Oh god, I can't watch this without a thousand Holy Grail jokes flying into my head :lol:

[sdp]

So is this show really any good? I've only seen a few clips but it definitely looks too dumbed down for me to care. I get it's a Disney show don't get me wrong but it seemed more aimed toward toddlers.

I enjoy the show, but there's one thing about it that just baffles me, and it's the fact that it's a midquel to the second film. I mean, couldn't they have just set it after it and thus avoid any confusion as to why Kion and the rest of the Guard are nowhere to be seen?

I'm guessing they chose that time period for a reason and if they care about continuity that can mean we get a good "purge" of the guard as a season finale.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Ok so Kovu, Vitani, and Nuka were confirmed earlier this year as showing up at one point. Well mark yer calenders folks for Nov 11th as the episode is titled Lions of the Outlands!! No info on what the episode is about but it's safe to assume this is the ep we've all been waiting for!! :o *hugs her Fuli plushie* :D

I really liked Lion king 2 and Kovu, Nuka were awesome. I look forward to this.

[Raph's Girl]

The episode aired this morning. Kovu mentioned he had met Kiara "a while ago" so at least we now know when exactly this takes place during Lion King 2. Zira got a villain song in. :D

The weird thing about the episode is Kion had no bloody clue about the Outland pride. Like WTF? Simba never told him?!

[BubblyShell22]

I missed this as I forgot about it. I guess I'll have to catch it when it airs again. Sounds like it was awesome though.

[Raph's Girl]

I missed this as I forgot about it. I guess I'll have to catch it when it airs again. Sounds like it was awesome though.

Zira's song:

Wupsp8cRmks

[Sage Ninja]

I haven't bothered with this at all. It's about 20 years too late and really does not have the creativity and passion in it that the older Disney movie cartoon series has had like Aladdin had. I find the lion guard too kiddiefy and lazy for the most part. And OH MY GOD Bunga Kion's friend is annoying. He is the biggest reason I can't sit through an episode.

That being said I'm glad Zira and Kovu has made an appearance. They some how gave this episode some respectability. Nice song too. Zira has some pipes. Whose voicing her?

[Raph's Girl]

Zira has some pipes. Whose voicing her?

Nika Futterman voiced Zira. She currently voices Gamora in the marvel animated stuff.

Kovu, Nuka, and Vitani were voiced by the original VA's from Lion King 2. Jason Marsden, Andy Dick, and Lacey Chabert.

[Wildcat]

I've only seen a few episodes of this in passing. It's alright. It's obviously aimed at younger kids which is why it's on Disney Jr. so can't really complain about it being too kid-friendly. It's well done and feels like the Lion King.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Nika Futterman voiced Zira. She currently voices Gamora in the marvel animated stuff.

Kovu, Nuka, and Vitani were voiced by the original VA's from Lion King 2. Jason Marsden, Andy Dick, and Lacey Chabert.

Nuka sounded different, and Jason Marsden voiced Adult Kovu. So I the Lion guard must take place just after Kiara met Kovu and The Lion King 2. Kovu's voice must have broken lol.

Looks like they have left it open to have them in another episode.