Worst Part of The 2014 turtles designs

[Ninturtle]

When I see people complain about the designs I usually hear 3 problems
1. The god awful faces
2. The ridiculous size
3. The crap they're wearing
Which one of these is the worst part of the designs to you.

[TrickOrTreater]

All of the above.

[Autbot_Benz]

Id say the clothes. Too much clutter on them.

[TurtleTitan97]

All of the above.

^ Same goes for me. Though if I gotta choose, it's between their faces and size. They are quite the ugly little devils.

[Ninturtle]

^ Same goes for me. Though if I gotta choose, it's between their faces and size. They are quite the ugly little devils.

Don't you mean ugly giant devils .

[TurtleTitan97]

Don't you mean ugly giant devils .

Y'know what I mean.:lol:

[Cure]

I like the clothes and I like them being bigger than other versions, so I'll go with the faces. They are pretty ugly.

[Leo656]

I will also choose D: All of the Above.

[Turtle Soup]

I'm going with the clothes. Size maybe, if it's more like size/strength.

[Bry]

It's all awful, but the biggest problem for me is their size. Their massive, 'roided-out, heavy body types totally fly against them being freakin' ninjas. They weren't remotely stealthy throughout the movie and it doesn't look like they're even capable of it. Making them super-strong, bulletproof behemoths totally undercuts their skill and makes the "Ninja" part of the title and concept irrelevant. Which is such an idiotic decision I can barely believe it.

[IndigoErth]

The clothes I can deal with. Running around real life NYC, at the very least shoes make sense. (Which of course is the one damn thing Raph isn't wearing... Mr. Fat Feet there can't even fit an altered pair like Leo. lol) Even tough feet could be injured running around some city like that, and last thing you need when you lack access to medical care is a nasty infection. (Yes I'm applying real life to fictional characters that prob won't ever get hurt that way, I don't care. lol)

I'd say 'worst part' (imo) is somewhat a tie between size and looks. As I've mentioned before, I can deal with them being tall this once, the steroids however are overdone. I don't want them looking too scrawny - no matter what age the film tries to suggest, I like seeing them looking like they've grown up - but an intervention on the steroids is in order. And if not that... then at the very least the overbearing shell size; they're/were Sliders for Turtley sake.

Facial looks... *sigh* Varies. There are some shots of [some of] them that are decent enough, sorta, I guess (now that I'm used to this), even dare I say just a few that I kind of adore, but there are other shots of them that just...
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-1/382433_266866563426777_1201574746_n.jpg?oh=6b9ec89 9096fd713ce3cf738b66e9e45&oe=56255E61&__gda__=1444363729_802df8f45a3e29d91123aafbff0dceb 9

[Powder]

All 3 parts are equally bad to me, each more "wrong" for the TMNT than the next. I can't settle on just one. Not tryna be Mr. Negative, that's just how I feel.

[plastroncafe]

The superfluous clothing was the greatest sin of the three.
I just...the poor animators.

Can you imagine being the poor soul who spent day in and day out painstakingly animating all the doo-dads and thinger-ma-bobs the guys were wearing?

I almost want to start a collection to buy them a couple of cases of their favorite drink just...to try and help them take the edge off.

[Slade]

Damn, I was hoping I could pick all three, but ended up clicking just clothes.

There really should have been a D. All of the above.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The designs and heights of the turtles aren't that bad to me. They have the potential to represent an even darker, intimidating version that sadly will never reach that potential. Clothes and ninja shoes would make more sense if they're going for the design of a ninja. Ironically, I could see these guys wearing actual ninja outfits. Just fix the faces and get rid of Raph's shade and Mike sunglasses and I'm good.

[Zak The Neutrino]

It's all awful, but the biggest problem for me is their size. Their massive, 'roided-out, heavy body types totally fly against them being freakin' ninjas. They weren't remotely stealthy throughout the movie and it doesn't look like they're even capable of it. Making them super-strong, bulletproof behemoths totally undercuts their skill and makes the "Ninja" part of the title and concept irrelevant. Which is such an idiotic decision I can barely believe it.

THIS!!

They are way too big to be ninjas and the fact that they crushed a car just was way over the top for me. I dislike all of the above but the size really grinds my gears the most.

[Candy Kappa]

All three off' em. Although, if I had to choose... I'd say the size was the most jarring off the three, by a tiny bit.

[ProactiveMan]

Can you imagine being the poor soul who spent day in and day out painstakingly animating all the doo-dads and thinger-ma-bobs the guys were wearing?


I'd guess that stuff would be procedural animation, i.e. simulated. I do feel sorry for the animators though, because the designs and direction are out of their hands, so they work their guts out on something that is going to get crapped on.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Can you put an option for " all of the above" please. And a "noses" option to please Cybercubed.

[Darth Knuckles]

The thing I disliked the most about the 2014 turtles was their size. It made it so they could just throw and punch The Foot out of their way instead of using ninjutsu to do so. The art of invisibility was made extremely harder for this version of turtles and they barely used their weapons because of their massive size and fighting style. And towards the end of the movie there is no realistic way they could have fit down in that manhole cover.

[letscook89]

They are too big and too 'roid (especially raph and mikey).
The clothes are ok, but there are too much useless accessories.
Except for Mikey without his mask (Shrek is that you ?), their faces aren't ugly to me. I accept them for what they are : MUTANTS TURTLES

[HeroTurtlesFan]

I quite liked the designs, but there was no "NONE of the above" in this poll, unsurprisingly...

[Powder]

I quite liked the designs, but there was no "NONE of the above" in this poll, unsurprisingly...

Nor would there be one if the thread were titled "Best Part of The 2014 turtles designs". If you'd prefer focusing on strengths rather than weaknesses, create that thread.

[neatoman]

The worst part in general is probably the faces. The faces are way too human for most tastes.

The worst individual part though must be Donnie's attire. I mean seriously, glasses and goggles? You can't wear glasses and goggles at the same time! And don't get me started on everything else that just looks tacky on him.

[Peter Palmer]

All 3 parts are equally bad to me, each more "wrong" for the TMNT than the next.

This sentence made my head hurt. :tconfuse:

[Foombamaroom]

Okay, I honestly didn't have "too big" of a problem with the Turtles. Criticizing the designs as a whole rather than each individual Turtle, the size bothered me the most. I liked the accessories, but I feel they didn't need as many as they had. It just made the CGI more expensive.

Criticisms for each Turtle:

Leonardo: Nothing really, to be honest. The only change I'd make is taking the bamboo stuff off his shell. Maybe the shoulder pads, too.

Raphael: I thought Raph was perfect, to be honest. Just shrink him a bit.

Donatello: Get that Ghostbuster thing off of his back, and get the glasses off, too.

Michelangelo: The face. This is the only Turtle face that legitimately bothered me because Mikey's face is so fat and it makes him look like a serial rapist.

[DarkLightDragon]

^Then surely the fact that he kept hitting on Apri-wait no, Megan Fox, made that "serial rapist" aspect more prominent?

[letscook89]

Hmm while I think Mikey is horrible without his mask, I don't know if I find him really cute (the baby blue eyes, his child attitude), or totally creepy (his harassment toward April, his "boner" aso..)

[Foombamaroom]

Hmm while I think Mikey is horrible without his mask, I don't know if I find him really cute (the baby blue eyes, his child attitude), or totally creepy (his harassment toward April, his "boner" aso..)

Mikey from IDW and 2012 is cute and adorable.
Mikey 2014 looks like something out of everyone's nightmares.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The size.

They look like a drunk Hulked-out Bruce Banner cosplaying as the Ninja Turtles. "HULK FAN!"

[jenna]

I voted for size because that was the most offensive of a bad bunch. Might have been faces, but Leo was okay so there was at least one redeeming face. The clothes, meh, I didn't hate them as much as I thought I would - Leo and Raph at least. Don was.... overly encumbered and Mikey was... well... a joke.

But the size was awful and frankly embarrassing. *shudder*

[IndigoErth]

Mikey 2014 looks like something out of everyone's nightmares.
http://i.imgur.com/cYNwMfC.jpg

[jenna]

http://i.imgur.com/cYNwMfC.jpg

AAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!!! :o

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

all of the above

[syk_skillz]

I have to say the size is what bothers me the most. They are teenages and ninjas so them being roided out makes no sense although I know the mutagen could be also what cause it.They looked so much better in the concept art where they was more slender. I like them to be 5'6 or shorter however because it makes them seem more as the underdog in fights also instead or just just punching a foot across a parking lot like The Hulk I rather see them us actual NINJA skills in fights which is less realistic with there massive size. They look bigger then me and I'm 6'3 and big which doesn't work for the TMNT formula IMHO.

[IndigoErth]

Yeaaaah.... I haven't heard on the others, but Leo's supposedly about 6'5" while he's technically the second "shortest."

And, what, more than 2' wide at the shoulder? Not even sure if I'm kidding.

Is Donnie close to 7'?

[pennydreadful]

Put me down as another vote for "all of the above". Trying to choose a worst part of the designs for this flick is like trying to pick the worst part of a rectal exam with your GP - everything about it is uncomfortable and you wonder why technology hasn't advanced to the point where the entire thing can be improved. :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

The size. Never understood it. Like... why? ****ing why?

[BubblyShell22]

All of the above for me. The faces were just horrendous, the clothes weren't necessary and not conducive to them being ninjas with all that sh*t on, and their size was also horrible and made them indestructible which was unrealistic.

[neatoman]

The size. Never understood it. Like... why? ****ing why?

My guess is that they thought the heroes of an action movie being smaller than average humans seemed kind of silly. Granted I don't like how huge they are either, but I see why they made them bigger than usual.

[Technogeek29]

The worst part in general is probably the faces. The faces are way too human for most tastes.

The worst individual part though must be Donnie's attire. I mean seriously, glasses and goggles? You can't wear glasses and goggles at the same time! And don't get me started on everything else that just looks tacky on him.

Seriously Why does Don need all that crap? just give him the duffle bag like 2k3 it looks less stupid.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, definitely agree about Donnie. Too much stuff and it's just so bothersome.

[Shark_Blade]

Donnie's clothes should be simplified.

[IndigoErth]

The size. Never understood it. Like... why? ****ing why?
Bigger = better and more macho for movies with explosions? :ohwell:

Can't have no little underdog Turtles, nooo... that's silly and a threat to some producer's masculinity to suggest the 'little guy' can do great things - "they must be BIG no, BIGGER! I SAID BIGGER! HUGE! Concept artist, why you no understand?!" (Note sarcasm of course.)

[Wolfie65]

The faces I can live with, although they do look more adult than teenage-y and won't be breaking too many hearts....until they become rich & famous.
I'd imagine that the massive amount of gear has something to do with the fact that the movie is, of course, produced by adults, who seem to have trouble telling them apart otherwise, despite their differences in character and appearance. Prospective toy sales probably also played a part in the decision to outfit them like a platoon of Navy seals going into the Hot Zone unsupported.
However, I voted 'size'.
As many others have already mentioned, a huge part of being a Ninja is stealth, the ability to go unnoticed, to blend in, to strike hard and fade into the night, as it were.
Impossible if you're a 6'3, 350 lb. defensive lineman.
Who is green.
With a backpack, I mean, shell.

[Foombamaroom]

http://i.imgur.com/cynwmfc.jpg

Oh my God.
"My shell's tightening right now, April!"

[Powder]

I'd imagine that the massive amount of gear has something to do with the fact that the movie is, of course, produced by adults, who seem to have trouble telling them apart otherwise, despite their differences in character and appearance.

Every TMNT series/film/comic to date has been done by adults, & even those featuring variation in design for that same purpose (like The Next Mutation) found a way to maintain a relatively simplistic/classic appearance. Age has nothing to do with it.

[Jester]

Every TMNT series/film/comic to date has been done by adults, & even those featuring variation in design for that same purpose (like The Next Mutation) found a way to maintain a relatively simplistic/classic appearance. Age has nothing to do with it.

Sheer ignorance of the franchise then?

[Powder]

Let's go with "sheer ignorance in general". :)

[Jester]

Let's go with "sheer ignorance in general". :)
Fair enough.

[IndigoErth]

Oh my God.
"My shell's tightening right now, April!"
Yeahhhh, it's pixely and created after a sleepless night. I regret nothing.

outfit them like a platoon of Navy seals going into the Hot Zone unsupported.
Personally I'd prefer Green Berets. heh. Turtles Special Ops division.

[Bombshell]

The thing I disliked the most about the 2014 turtles was their size. It made it so they could just throw and punch The Foot out of their way instead of using ninjutsu to do so. The art of invisibility was made extremely harder for this version of turtles and they barely used their weapons because of their massive size and fighting style. And towards the end of the movie there is no realistic way they could have fit down in that manhole cover.

I was taking a walk today and passed some manholes and thought the exact same thing. I went through all of the versions and imagined them jumping down the manhole and Bay's Raphael managed to get stuck.

I've been down manholes for a job and I can assure Bay that they don't send the big bulky guys down into the manholes for a reason.

At any rate, I chose size. The size has always bothered me. They are teens first and foremost. Not 30 year old body builders. The clothes and faces I can get over. Theres just no way in Manhattan the Bay turtles could get underground using a typical manhole and that annoys me more than anything.

You don't gotta be big to be bad.

[IndigoErth]

I'm not sure Raph could even get both legs in there any deeper than this thighs. :lol: That mental image.

The manhole bit was kind of unnecessary. Obviously they keep the van someplace... presumably in close access to home? So that entrance is where exactly.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Under a grate in an abandoned auto shop. My guess, anyway.

[DarkFell]

I was taking a walk today and passed some manholes and thought the exact same thing. I went through all of the versions and imagined them jumping down the manhole and Bay's Raphael managed to get stuck.

Well, there's that one scene where Tokka managed to get stuck in a manhole in Secret of the Ooze.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140323170820/tmnt/images/a/af/TMNT_2_SECRET_OF_THE_OOZE_TOKKA%26RAHZAR_5.png
As far as bigger mutant turtles having difficulty getting stuck through small holes, SotO definitely got that one scene right.
So yeah, I can also see a couple of the Bayturtles having similar difficulties as well.

[IndigoErth]

:lol: Yup, that looks accurate.

I can see April trying to shove them down there. "Hurry up! Get...in there *pushes hard*... dammit! Before you get caught!" If only I could draw well. lol


Edit:
Police on radio: "Send a rescue crew to [insert street name] or...maybe animal rescue... send both? There's a giant turtle stuck in the manhole...and it's talking to me. He seems pretty pissed about this."

[Klunk1234]

For me, is the faces and the size. They supposed to be slimmer, agile and not big and their faces with those noses and those lips are simply awful.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

:lol: Yup, that looks accurate.

I can see April trying to shove them down there. "Hurry up! Get...in there *pushes hard*... dammit! Before you get caught!" If only I could draw well. lol


Edit:
Police on radio: "Send a rescue crew to [insert street name] or...maybe animal rescue... send both? There's a giant turtle stuck in the manhole...and it's talking to me. He seems pretty pissed about this."


ROFL!! :trazz::tlol:

[Walkabout]

Size (way too big) and the faces.
Not too keen on all the clothing etc either, but I could have lived with it if they were the traditional size and had their traditional faces.

The photoshop version of Leo (whoever it was) did was ace, I'd have been AOK with that.

I was one of the people who was very skeptical of the Nick Turtle's feet when first seen, but now it's not even an issue...just pointing out that I'm OK with change.

[Kanon]

They look too much like Hulks.

I can live with the other things :D

[miru]

Their bulk. THEY ARE NINJA! They can't be bulky! They need to be stealthy!

[sethmartin]

After reading all of these comments, it seems like the size of the turtles is the biggest complaint. That's what took me out of it the most. Made the villains seem less threatening. As far as the faces, I thought Leo looked the closest to a ninja turtle. The others just look like monsters.

The only part of the turtles designs I really liked were the masks. I liked how they weren't perfect form fitting.

Other than that, the accessories were there for no other reason than to sell toys.

As a team of ninjas, I always felt that the turtles should have a uniformed look to them. It might have been ok to add one or two little accessories to each turtle but Leo and Donnie have so much garbage on them that it makes it redundant for them to even wear masks. Why even bother wearing uniformed ninja masks when the rest of the attire is so radically different?

[IndigoErth]

'Cuz masks are cool, everybody knows that. :P (And on mutant Turtles kinda cute, too.)

I dunno, while Leo's chest armor is never going to do much for him in a Bay movie, the rest of his stuff is pretty much just protective gear, which I can personally give a pass to. Mikey however... I think he ran into his closet and just came out wearing whatever clung to him that day. :tlol:

Although I continue to be a smidge amused by Leo's bare knees. Of all parts to not cover? (Is this a TMNT first...? lol) And just how torn up are they by the time you get home after a long battle... Ow.

[TMNachoT]

Faces... they are horrible.

[Coola Yagami]

All of the above. Their designs reek of 'WTF WERE THEY THINKING???!!!'. I remember when we started seeing the official designs with all the junk on them, several people were arguing with me that 'of course they won't be wearing that throughout the whole movie, that's just their battle gear'. No, even back then something told me that was gonna be their general default look, extra crap and all.

Mikey was the main give-away. It made no sense for him to be wearing more 'chill-axy' clothes while everyone else was armed to the teeth. It was either... that was just Mikey's chill clothes and the others had chill clothes too.... or that was his 'armor' to match everyone elses. Seeing no pics of clips of the rest WITHOUT the extra crap, I already knew that was gonna be their default look and they'd be luggin that junk around 24/7. It's ridiculous. Donnie himself looks like a videogame character trying to carry all his power-ups at once.


I honestly don't know what went on at the PD offices. Never have I seen some adaptation of whatever with such a heavy change.... but then again, now that I think about it, the Transformers were also animated with ********s of bells and whistles too. Honestly only Prime looked like himself. Bumblebee had the benefit of being the only yellow robot there. Everyone else.... were just robots A and B, or these are the good guys... I think... and these are the bad guys... maybe? I could barely tell Starscream and Megatron apart at times. Big no-no.

[Technogeek29]

After reading all of these comments, it seems like the size of the turtles is the biggest complaint. That's what took me out of it the most. Made the villains seem less threatening. As far as the faces, I thought Leo looked the closest to a ninja turtle. The others just look like monsters.

The only part of the turtles designs I really liked were the masks. I liked how they weren't perfect form fitting.

Other than that, the accessories were there for no other reason than to sell toys.

As a team of ninjas, I always felt that the turtles should have a uniformed look to them. It might have been ok to add one or two little accessories to each turtle but Leo and Donnie have so much garbage on them that it makes it redundant for them to even wear masks. Why even bother wearing uniformed ninja masks when the rest of the attire is so radically different?

But I cant tell them apart sometimes even with all that crap maybe PD should put belt buckles on them with their initials? Sometimes even with the colored mask its hard for me.:D

[IndigoErth]

Why do I have a feeling PD movie belt buckles would end up looking like wrestling championship belts...