Spoilers for the Turtles in Space arc

[Chicagoguy]

If you want to spoil the start of the Turtles in Space story arc, then head to your local bookstore (or Amazon) and take a look at the new children's book "Mutants in Space!" It looks like the book is an adaptation of the first three episodes of the Turtles in Space arc - the "Annihilation" two parter and the subsequent episode (whose name I already forgot). I didn't read it because I don't want to spoil the show for myself, but I thought I would pass it along.

[neatoman]

Cool, spoil away dudes! I don't care, just put it in spoiler tags for others.

[TigerClaw]

If you want to spoil the start of the Turtles in Space story arc, then head to your local bookstore (or Amazon) and take a look at the new children's book "Mutants in Space!" It looks like the book is an adaptation of the first three episodes of the Turtles in Space arc - the "Annihilation" two parter and the subsequent episode (whose name I already forgot). I didn't read it because I don't want to spoil the show for myself, but I thought I would pass it along.
One of those books also show Mona Lisa, I bet it's based on an episode from season 4.

[TurFlytle]

It's weird how they're basically spoiling Season 4 episodes in books months away from their airdate.

[Ursalink]

If you want to spoil the start of the Turtles in Space story arc, then head to your local bookstore (or Amazon) and take a look at the new children's book "Mutants in Space!" It looks like the book is an adaptation of the first three episodes of the Turtles in Space arc - the "Annihilation" two parter and the subsequent episode (whose name I already forgot). I didn't read it because I don't want to spoil the show for myself, but I thought I would pass it along.

I want spoilers, dude. Post them!!

[Papenbrook]

Raph falls for Mona Lisa by the end of the book.

[TurtleTitan97]

Raph falls for Mona Lisa by the end of the book.

That's kinda old news at this point.

[Bitsy83]

I'm currently reading it. BLAME MY BOYFRIEND!!! He saw me caving and convinced me to get it! I'm halfway through, but popular 2k3 character does come back, but if I said who and how they are presented, I might cause a riot....

[TurFlytle]

i'm currently reading it. Blame my boyfriend!!! He saw me caving and convinced me to get it! I'm halfway through, but popular 2k3 character does come back, but if i said who and how they are presented, i might cause a riot....

Tell us bishop bishop bishop!!!

[Ninturtle]

i'm currently reading it. Blame my boyfriend!!! He saw me caving and convinced me to get it! I'm halfway through, but popular 2k3 character does come back, but if i said who and how they are presented, i might cause a riot....

tell us ! Tell us ! Tell us !

[Papenbrook]

I'm currently reading it. BLAME MY BOYFRIEND!!! He saw me caving and convinced me to get it! I'm halfway through, but popular 2k3 character does come back, but if I said who and how they are presented, I might cause a riot....
I'm interested. Tell me the full details, please.

[Bitsy83]

Ok, but I need to get to bed now. I'm typing this from my phone. I promise, I'll keep you guys updated on my progress

[TurFlytle]

Ok, but I need to get to bed now. I'm typing this from my phone. I promise, I'll keep you guys updated on my progress

Ok, people need rest. :D

[Foombamaroom]

It's gotta be Bishop.
IT BETTER BE BISHOP.
GIVE ME DAT BISHOP YO. #PLEASEGIVEUSBISHOP2K15

And don't sleep. The fandom is more important. THE FANDOM IS MORE IMPORTANT. If a popular 2003 character comes back, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THE NAME, YO?!

[TurFlytle]

It's gotta be Bishop.
IT BETTER BE BISHOP.
GIVE ME DAT BISHOP YO. #PLEASEGIVEUSBISHOP2K15

And don't sleep. The fandom is more important. THE FANDOM IS MORE IMPORTANT. If a popular 2003 character comes back, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THE NAME, YO?!

It has to be. He's the only popular person in 2k3 besides Ch'rell that has something to do with aliens.

[neatoman]

It has to be. He's the only popular person in 2k3 besides Ch'rell that has something to do with aliens.

Who said this character needed anything to do with aliens?

[TurFlytle]

Who said this character needed anything to do with aliens?

Just saying, it's in the Turtles in Space arc and Bishop is a popular 2k3 character.

[RandomtasticFantasy]

I wonder why anyone would riot though if it is Bishop. Wonder if it's like Hun, where he's more or less INO to some people.

[cookie jar]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

[BubblyShell22]

Whoa. Didn't see that coming. Kind of cool though considering how he was in 2K3.

[TurFlytle]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

So, Utroms are in the 2012 series. I knew it. Makes a bit of some sense. I guess being an Utrom is a better origin than all of a sudden having an extended lifespan and superpowers thanks to aliens. I dunno, I'll see what his origin is and why he's hunting aliens (which he is). I bet he's going to be voiced by Steve Blum.

[neatoman]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

Not a Kraang? A real Utrom this time? If that's the case, well I guess I would normally be weirded out, but an actual Utrom seems like a nice twist...

[yellowmario27]

does he look like the 2003 bishop?

[Papenbrook]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

What does he look like, and what is his role?

[MikeandRaph87]

An uteom andkraang are not the same thing? Agent Bishop is what he hates? I dont know how I feel about it, but it is ironic.

[Chaotix12345]

Ooooooooh, now THAT'S certainly interesting. Awesome to see Bishop (Apparently) confirmed for the Nick show so soon and if this info is accurate, then that's a REALLY cool twist on him! If he's a rogue Kraang that broke off from the hivemind years ago because he knew what they were doing was wrong or came to love the Earth from living on it for so long, that's a great way to bring the Utroms in. Plus, with him (assumedly) forming the EPF specifically to fight against the Kraang, it's kind of like a good version of what Ch'rell did once he landed on Earth in 2k3. XD

This is happening at the PERFECT time since I just finished rewatching 2k3 Seasons 3 and 4. Looking even more forward to Annihilation Earth now. :D

[Papenbrook]

So, I guess Bishop WON'T be a major villain for the turtles?...WOW....(CyberCubed is gonna be ticked...)

[TurFlytle]

Ooooooooh, now THAT'S certainly interesting. Awesome to see Bishop (Apparently) confirmed for the Nick show so soon and if this info is accurate, then that's a REALLY cool twist on him! If he's a rogue Kraang that broke off from the hivemind years ago because he knew what they were doing was wrong or came to love the Earth from living on it for so long, that's a great way to bring the Utroms in. Plus, with him (assumedly) forming the EPF specifically to fight against the Kraang, it's kind of like a good version of what Ch'rell did once he landed on Earth in 2k3. XD

This is happening at the PERFECT time since I just finished rewatching 2k3 Seasons 3 and 4. Looking even more forward to Annihilation Earth now. :D

I bet Kraang are like mutated Utroms, exposed to the air of Dimension X and mutagen. Since it can't mutate Kraang, it means that they would just stay in their Kraang form due to the effect of it. But, what happens if retromutagen is used on Kraang? Will it convert back to the utrom? I bet that Kraang Prime is like Ch'rell, but his Utrom form was banished into Dimension X, where he was turned into a Kraang. He eventually found mutated Utrom of his own and put a mind controlling device on that would make them listen to only his commands. Hence why he has 3 hexagon things on his head. The Utroms like in the 2003 series had their ship crash, but this time in Dimension X. Bishop managed to escape the crash and fell on Earth along with other remaining Utroms. EDIT: And what if that ship was the Technodrome?

[RandomtasticFantasy]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

Hee, I almost said "What, is he an alien now or something?". Cool, looking forward to see what exactly they do with and if he'll still be an enemy of the turtles. I wonder if that Cubed guy will be upset though...

[TurFlytle]

So, I guess Bishop WON'T be a major villain for the turtles?...WOW....(CyberCubed is gonna be ticked...)

Well, after his first few appearances, Bishop actually became an ally, so...

[Foombamaroom]

I'm kinda iffy on Bishop being an Utrom, but there are three things that have me excited for it. A. Agent Bisho himself. As long as they do the character correctly, I'll be fine with him being an Utrom. B. Utroms themselves. So, now Utroms are in the 2012 show? That's fantastic. We may finally get some Kraang origins. Maybe Kraang Prime was a rogue Utrom who just cloned herself/himself (I don't know what gender it is.)? C. I wonder if Bishop is going to serve as an antagonist or an anti-hero to the Turtles. Hopefully he'll start off as an antagonist, and then gradually become an ally to them. But still, BISHOP. This might just make up for Mega Shredder.

[MikeandRaph87]

Incorrect. He was a villain who thought he was doing the right thing within his mindset. His goal may have been to protect the Earth, but the turtles were just experiments that can help his research and in the way. He was an ally in Fast Forward, but that was after the villain who means well had time to reform. We do not see him in the last season aside form a nonspeaking cameo, but he is still evil at least until the point of 2050 in which one of Bishop's alien experiments had heart enough to save his tormentor.

[NinjaPug]

Do we really need spoiler tags for every post? The thread title says Spoilers in it so it's kinda assumed you don't come in here unless you don't care about being spoiled.

[neatoman]

Do we really need spoiler tags for every post? The thread title says Spoilers in it so it's kinda assumed you don't come in here unless you don't care about being spoiled.

Sure we do.

[Bitsy83]

Gosh....should I even BOTHER making a thread now? Some of you guys already beat me to it. :lol: Ok, let me go into a bit more detail about the book:

It starts out with the Turtles, Casey, and April patrolling the streets and looking for more Kraang. I think we all saw the clip where they mentioned that the Mutanimals were taken out by Tog (Slash and Rockwell, to be specific). While they're driving, a Kraang droid (with human face) pulls up alongside them, pulls down his sunglasses, and "winks" at them. The Turtles find this suspicious so they follow the car, but lose him down an alley. They get this message on the wall: "TURTLES. 3117 BAYFRONT STREET. MIDNIGHT." Below the message is a bishop chess piece. (This is where I started squeeing.)

The Turtles are then led to the meat packaging place where they fought Tigerclaw and see the Kraang droid. Obviously, they all attack him, but he takes them all out while trying to say he doesn't want to fight them. He apprehends Donnie and forces them to listen to him. He says his Earth name is Bishop and that he is a Utrom, a peaceful Kraang. He even talks differently from the other Kraang. This is because the Kraang all share a hive-mind (which Donnie had speculated before), and he was the one who originally created the human disguise; the other Kraang just copied him. (I think someone speculated that before). Bishop warns the Turtles that the Triceratons are planning to invade Earth in order to take out the Kraang.

Bishop explains how for millennia, the two species fought over Dimension X; a classic battle of brains vs. brawns. The Triceratons almost won, until the Kraang unleashed a weapon known as a "Black Hole Generator," which destroyed the Triceraton's home planet. The war for Dimension X is still continuing to this day, so that might explain why the Kraang have been trying to use Earth as their new home. Leo interrupts and asks Bishop why he's helping them:
"Because...I have watched you. I have seen the good you have done in quiet, in secrecy, simply for the sake of goodness. That is why I help you."

So, the Turtles and Bishop form a plan to invade the Technodrome, which has been rebuilt...again. Leo, Casey, April, and Bishop are in the Blimp over the bay where the Technodrome is while Raph, Donnie, Leatherhead, and Mikey go in the sub. Kraang Sub-prime has returned (somehow) and is trying to power up the Technodrome. Unfortunately, the Technodrome still manages to rise and begins to ascend onto New York. Using glider wings, Leo's team break into the Drome to find their friends. As their fighting, every monitor on the Technodrome and screen on the planet (computer screens, smart phones, TV, etc.) receives a message from Mozar:

"Greetings, Sub-Life Forms of Earth. I am Captain Mozar of the Triceraton Empire. Let it be known that your planet is infested with Kraang, an insidious alien bent on mutating Earthing their own home world. In response, we Triceratons will eliminate these hideous aliens, freeing you from their vile plans. Unfortunately, your Earth will be annihilated as well. That is all. And please...have a nice day."

Hence, begins the DOUBLE INVASION! So, the Kraang and the Turtles fight, Sub-Prime and Bishop face off. We find out that Sub-Prime is actually SUB-Subprime. I'm not sure what this means, but I assume that Bishop once outranked Subprime. Eventually, the Turtles have to escape in Kraang ships, only to be attacked by Triceraton pilots. A huge dogfight goes on when Casey and Mikey see a Triceraton ship head for Central Park. They have their own Black Hole Generator, which they stole from the Kraang, and start to put it together. The Turtles show up and are about to face them when they receive some backup. Splinter, Mondo Gecko, Muckman, and the rest of the Mutanimals show up and a huge brawl goes on to stop the Triceratons from powering up the generator.

And that's where my bookmark is. I'll try to finish the book tomorrow and post the rest, if someone hasn't already beaten me to it. I'm starting to think I may be a bit behind in all this. So, what do you all think?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Holy crap. That stuff is AMAZING!

And somebody official came up with the chess piece calling card. Dammit, that was gonna be my idea when I someday got to write for TMNT! :tlol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oh I kind of poked fun at that idea in my main fic,with Mikey calling him the name of almost every chess piece EXCEPT the bishop! Pawn, knight, rook, etc.... Mikey was being a smarta$$ and trying to push his buttons by insulting him.

[Papenbrook]

Bishop's potential as a major villain has been UTTERLY SHOT TO HELL! :x

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bishop's potential as a major villain has been UTTERLY SHOT TO HELL! :x

Yeah, but Bishop as he was wouldn't really make sense as an alien-hunting villain given that aliens have been a HUGE focus in this show since the very first episode. As opposed to 4Kids, where aliens didn't become as big of a focus until Season 3.

If a different branch of TMNT was doing this, I'd be more antagonistic. But this is the version that made the Kraang/Utroms evil, so I'm okay with it.

Fingers still crossed for IDW Bishop...

[BubblyShell22]

Sounds like that will be awesome, Bitsy. Now I definitely can't wait for the episode to air. Sure, Bishop's different, but I like how he's an alien in this and how he's against the Kraang. I had a feeling the Utroms would come in somehow, and they have.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I'm just happy that Sub-prime will be back as I suspected he would. Called it.

[Foombamaroom]

....
*Sighs*

Alright, am I the only one fed up with how repetitive this sounds? Kraang Prime is back, he's got a Technodrome, yaddah yaddah yaddah. This happened in the last two season finales. I wouldn't mind the invasion theme again if they had set up the invasion like they did in seasons 1 and 2. Now it's just "The Kraang are back... again."

Bishop being one of the Kraang Droid models doesn't surprise me, but I do hope they give him some sort of difference so that way it's easier to distinguish him. Kind of like that red suit he had in the 2003 series. Anyways, I'm super excited for Bishop, as he may be the saving grace of the season. It's also super exciting to hear more about the Utroms and more about the origins of Kraang.

Also, Bitsy, you're not allowed to rest. I NEED MORE.

[Vicky82]

Wow pretty cool but I bet quite few people are not going to like it.

I'm not going to read Bitsy's description of the story I don't want to spoiled even more.

[TurFlytle]

Bishop's potential as a major villain has been UTTERLY SHOT TO HELL! :x

Bishop has been an ally before in the 2003 series. You like having a teenage April, a race of Utrom Krangs, Asian Hun, etc., but you hate good guy Bishop which he was for the remainder of the 2003 series.

[TigerClaw]

Bishop has been an ally before in the 2003 series. You like having a teenage April, a race of Utrom Krangs, Asian Hun, etc., but you hate good guy Bishop which he was for the remainder of the 2003 series.
Yeah, Bishop became the good guy during the Fast Forward series.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bishop has been an ally before in the 2003 series. You like having a teenage April, a race of Utrom Krangs, Asian Hun, etc., but you hate good guy Bishop which he was for the remainder of the 2003 series.

Bishop was an ideological ally for all of THREE episodes. "Bishop to Knight", "Head of State", and "Day of Awakening", roughly 100 years in the future. Plus I THINK he might have been at the wedding of Casey and April.

All of Seasons 3 and 4, enemy. Season 5, enemy of an enemy.

[TurFlytle]

Does Bishop look like a Kraang Droid with glasses and a different uniform? Does he at least have emotion or something like that similar to Kraang Raph?

[Foombamaroom]

^That's my biggest concern about Bishop being an Utrom. I really want his face to convey emotion.

[Ninturtle]

I got a novel "Mutants in Space". And yes, Bishop appears and he is an Utrom.

How does he look?

[victory_angel]

Is it me or did Mozar's announcement sound phoned in from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

[MikeandRaph87]

What bothers me about this is Bishop's goal was to protect the Earth and protect the humans of Earth not an alien himself out to protect the Earth from a specific alien race. I will accept it on condition IDW uses Bishop in a way close to how 4Kids originated the character.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Is it me or did Mozar's announcement sound phoned in from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

LOL, or MIB, for that matter.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What bothers me about this is Bishop's goal was to protect the Earth and protect the humans of Earth not an alien himself out to protect the Earth from a specific alien race. I will accept it on condition IDW uses Bishop in a way close to how 4Kids originated the character.

That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

If IDW keeps Bishop the same as he was in 4Kids, I won't really care what Nick does.

[victory_angel]

I admit I'm mixed with this change in character. Bishop has never actually been a villain as he truly believed what he was doing was for good of human kind. But he was never a friend before Fastforward, he was an anti-hero and an antagonist. And I do feel his character is served better in this form rather then having him be an ally right from the start.

But at the same time there are things Bishop does in the 4kids show that Nick won't such as attempting to vivisect Mikey actually vivisecting Leather Head. Running all sorts of tortures on the Turtles for the sake of scientific research.

I'll wait and see how this goes though. It may prove to be interesting twist.

[Ninturtle]

That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

If IDW keeps Bishop the same as he was in 4Kids, I won't really care what Nick does.

They hinted at the EPF returning so perhaps Bishop may have a role in that.
Edit: They actually straight up said the EPF is returning.

[MikeandRaph87]

That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

If IDW keeps Bishop the same as he was in 4Kids, I won't really care what Nick does.

IDW is where my interest is vested like you. Similar to Bebop and Rocksteady we get it both ways. It fits Nick's storyline to twist the character into something different so it works with what it going for and its fine. The lesser but arguably superior product that is more prone to taking original molds opposed to just names will serve the character better in the sense of who the character is. I know Tom said he wanted to use Bishop, but is anything official?

Victoryangel, Ra's al Ghul did not see himself as inherently evil as he tried to preserve the Earth even at the expense of a percentage of the human population. So yeah, Bishop is still a villain though he does reform.

[matteso586]

How does Subprime keep surviving? With all those gruesome defeats, he could have been equipped with more cybernetics.

[Foombamaroom]

How does Subprime keep surviving? With all those gruesome defeats, he could have been equipped with more cybernetics.

He's like 2012's version of Chrell.

[neatoman]

Can I just say how happy I am that we're finally getting the proper Utroms, I got sick of the Kraang a long time ago.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This all sounds very interesting yet quite questionable.

Can we get a shot of what Bishop and the utroms look like?

[BubblyShell22]

I'm just glad the Utroms are in the series and that they're the good Kraang. I wonder if they were called Kraang before this and switched it to Utrom or if they were always called Utroms and the Kraang changed their name.

[Meliwen]

Is Bishop the only Utrom? Of course, there could be more out there, but it sounds like he's the only one, at least the only one mentioned so far.

I was so ready for him to take the lead for human vs mutants. Now I wonder who they'll have to head the EPF.

[victory_angel]

Is Bishop the only Utrom? Of course, there could be more out there, but it sounds like he's the only one, at least the only one mentioned so far.

I was so ready for him to take the lead for human vs mutants. Now I wonder who they'll have to head the EPF.

That just means they would have to have Dirk Savage fill that role rather then Bishop.

[CyberCubed]

Its kind of a twist knowing Bishop's origin, its like a nod to Ch'rell from the 2k3 series.

[Ursalink]

Well, I have to say the recent spoiler revealed about Bishop was unexpected, but ironically it matchs with a theory I had time ago about the series:

"In TMNT 2012, the Utroms were a pacific/benevolent alien species from another planet, just like in 2003' series. However, there was one corrupted member of that species (Kraang) who wanted to conquer the universe and all classic evil stuff. (Just like Ch'Rell in 2003's). He failed and the Utroms exiled him to Dimension X, where he discovered the mutagen and used it on himself to become "Kraang Prime". The mutation basically gave him big telepathic powers and turned him into a giant. However, knowing that he needed a loyal army for his plans, Kraang Prime decided to clone himself in small soldiers versions. That's why all the Kraangs talk in that stupid way. Kraang Subprime was a clone a little more intelligent that the rest of them, and that's why he was the second in command of Kraang Prime; not to mention he talks normal".

Can somebody, please, post more spoilers of that book?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I kind of like the idea, actually. Always expected Sub-prime to return at some point, despite the "evidence" of the Irma-bot head. It was just too convenient that there was no body- it's a standard trope for bringing back "dead" characters. (See soap opera deaths.)

As for Bishop and the EPF, I see no reason why he couldn't still be the head of it, as they most likely wouldn't know he's an Utrom. They may even assume the Kraang simply copied his appearance for their androids. Not saying this is how it is going to happen, but it seems like the most logical way for it to work.

[CyberCubed]

So what is Bishop's design look like?

[TurFlytle]

So what is Bishop's design look like?

According to Bitsy, he looks like a human Kraang Droid with sunglasses in which the Kraang copied his exosuit.

[CyberCubed]

According to Bitsy, he looks like a human Kraang Droid with sunglasses in which the Kraang copied his exosuit.

So basically close to his original design then. Funny, back in 2012 when the human Kraang droids were first shown people said they looked like Bishop.

[Leofan26]

So wait, are they changing Bishop's character? Am not pleased with this. He was one of my favorites, boo!

[Foombamaroom]

How does Subprime keep surviving? With all those gruesome defeats, he could have been equipped with more cybernetics.

So wait, are they changing Bishop's character? Am not pleased with this. He was one of my favorites, boo!

I doubt they're changing his character. They're just making him an Utrom. As long as his personality traits remain in tact, I'm fine with it.

We know that that mutant task force is coming... It'd be interesting to see this version of Bishop turn on the Turtles.

[CyberCubed]

So wait, are they changing Bishop's character? Am not pleased with this. He was one of my favorites, boo!

How is that different than practically any other character on this show from a past series? Virtually everyone in the Nick cartoon have different personalities than we're used to.

I think the only ones almost exactly the same were Renet and Savanti, and even then there were some slight tweaks like Savanti being a mutant, etc.

[Papenbrook]

Gosh....should I even BOTHER making a thread now? Some of you guys already beat me to it. :lol: Ok, let me go into a bit more detail about the book:

It starts out with the Turtles, Casey, and April patrolling the streets and looking for more Kraang. I think we all saw the clip where they mentioned that the Mutanimals were taken out by Tog (Slash and Rockwell, to be specific). While they're driving, a Kraang droid (with human face) pulls up alongside them, pulls down his sunglasses, and "winks" at them. The Turtles find this suspicious so they follow the car, but lose him down an alley. They get this message on the wall: "TURTLES. 3117 BAYFRONT STREET. MIDNIGHT." Below the message is a bishop chess piece. (This is where I started squeeing.)

The Turtles are then led to the meat packaging place where they fought Tigerclaw and see the Kraang droid. Obviously, they all attack him, but he takes them all out while trying to say he doesn't want to fight them. He apprehends Donnie and forces them to listen to him. He says his Earth name is Bishop and that he is a Utrom, a peaceful Kraang. He even talks differently from the other Kraang. This is because the Kraang all share a hive-mind (which Donnie had speculated before), and he was the one who originally created the human disguise; the other Kraang just copied him. (I think someone speculated that before). Bishop warns the Turtles that the Triceratons are planning to invade Earth in order to take out the Kraang.

Bishop explains how for millennia, the two species fought over Dimension X; a classic battle of brains vs. brawns. The Triceratons almost won, until the Kraang unleashed a weapon known as a "Black Hole Generator," which destroyed the Triceraton's home planet. The war for Dimension X is still continuing to this day, so that might explain why the Kraang have been trying to use Earth as their new home. Leo interrupts and asks Bishop why he's helping them:
"Because...I have watched you. I have seen the good you have done in quiet, in secrecy, simply for the sake of goodness. That is why I help you."

So, the Turtles and Bishop form a plan to invade the Technodrome, which has been rebuilt...again. Leo, Casey, April, and Bishop are in the Blimp over the bay where the Technodrome is while Raph, Donnie, Leatherhead, and Mikey go in the sub. Kraang Sub-prime has returned (somehow) and is trying to power up the Technodrome. Unfortunately, the Technodrome still manages to rise and begins to ascend onto New York. Using glider wings, Leo's team break into the Drome to find their friends. As their fighting, every monitor on the Technodrome and screen on the planet (computer screens, smart phones, TV, etc.) receives a message from Mozar:

"Greetings, Sub-Life Forms of Earth. I am Captain Mozar of the Triceraton Empire. Let it be known that your planet is infested with Kraang, an insidious alien bent on mutating Earthing their own home world. In response, we Triceratons will eliminate these hideous aliens, freeing you from their vile plans. Unfortunately, your Earth will be annihilated as well. That is all. And please...have a nice day."

Hence, begins the DOUBLE INVASION! So, the Kraang and the Turtles fight, Sub-Prime and Bishop face off. We find out that Sub-Prime is actually SUB-Subprime. I'm not sure what this means, but I assume that Bishop once outranked Subprime. Eventually, the Turtles have to escape in Kraang ships, only to be attacked by Triceraton pilots. A huge dogfight goes on when Casey and Mikey see a Triceraton ship head for Central Park. They have their own Black Hole Generator, which they stole from the Kraang, and start to put it together. The Turtles show up and are about to face them when they receive some backup. Splinter, Mondo Gecko, Muckman, and the rest of the Mutanimals show up and a huge brawl goes on to stop the Triceratons from powering up the generator.

And that's where my bookmark is. I'll try to finish the book tomorrow and post the rest, if someone hasn't already beaten me to it. I'm starting to think I may be a bit behind in all this. So, what do you all think?

I think you are doing fine. Will you post the rest of the book, please? Thank you.

[CyberCubed]

This arc sounds really exciting, so from what we know:

- Bishop is the head of the EPF but he's an Utrom
- The Utrom and Kraang are at war with each other
- The Triceratons want the Fugitoid as usual, Zog is already on Earth
- The Triceratons are at war with the Kraang too
- Mona Lisa is an alien and possibly part of Newtralizers race
- Lord Dregg will appear as an alien crimelord

Hopefully we get to see Wingnut/Screwloose in space too.

[Ninjinister]

Bishop's potential as a major villain has been UTTERLY SHOT TO HELL! :x

Big honkin deal. This sounds much more interesting. Kinda like Mortu a bit.

[Ninturtle]

Big honkin deal. This sounds much more interesting. Kinda like Mortu a bit.

It also could possibly means Bishop could betrays the turtles and lead the EPF which is what he's known for.

[CyberCubed]

I'm just glad Bishop is in the show, and at least he resembles his character unlike Hun.

[Bitsy83]

Ok, guys, I'm almost done paraphrasing the rest of the book. I think I'm down to the last twenty pages or so, but I need to get to work. I'll try to post it later tonight or tomorrow. Pinky swear.

[neatoman]

Ok, guys, I'm almost done paraphrasing the rest of the book. I think I'm down to the last twenty pages or so, but I need to get to work. I'll try to post it later tonight or tomorrow. Pinky swear.

Twenty pages left? I thought this was one of those picture heavy childrens' books that are like ten or twenty pages, are you telling me it's actually much longer than twenty pages?

[AlZarkovski]

I think, it's "Mutants in Space! (http://www.amazon.com/Mutants-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Junior/dp/0553522752/ref=sr_1_39?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1439675612&sr=1-39&keywords=turtles+ninja)" (128 pages) :tsmile:

[TurFlytle]

Twenty pages left? I thought this was one of those picture heavy childrens' books that are like ten or twenty pages, are you telling me it's actually much longer than twenty pages?

Then again, they have to adapt 3 WHOLE EPISODES in a book, so I guess.

[NinjaMan]

So I got the book
So I got the book
Splinter is killed by Shredder, books says Shredder stabs Splinter in the back and the blades come out of his chest. The Triceratons take over Earth and end up sending it into a black hole destroying it. Fugitod shows up rescues the Turtles and Casey and April and tells them they need to travel back in time 6 months before the Triceratons finds the parts for their black hole weapon. This is going to e wild.

[DarkLightDragon]

So if Splinter is killed, and since time-travel will be involved, they might go back in time to prevent Splinter's death while they at it?

[TurFlytle]

So I got the book
So I got the book
Splinter is killed by Shredder, books says Shredder stabs Splinter in the back and the blades come out of his chest. The Triceratons take over Earth and end up sending it into a black hole destroying it. Fugitod shows up rescues the Turtles and Casey and April and tells them they need to travel back in time 6 months before the Triceratons finds the parts for their black hole weapon. This is going to be wild.

:o THAT IS 2003/MIRAGE LEVELS OF DARK!!! and Shredder isn't killed in the Mega Shredder episode? SEASON 3 IS FILLED WITH FEELS!!! Can you tell us why Shredder was there and what he was doing?

[NinjaMan]

So if Splinter is killed, and since time-travel will be involved, they might go back in time to prevent Splinter's death while they at it?
It takes 6 months for the Triceratons to fin the parts. They were hidden by the Ultroms I believe in different parts of space. So the Turtles and Casey and April need to find the parts in those 6 months. It's a pretty dark read for a childeren books. Even after Shredder kills Splinter he doesn't even care that the Triceratons are destroying Earth. Oh and Bishop is awesome in this. He can fight hand to hand and took on a few Triceratons by himself.

[Bitsy83]

Uhhhh....I think you guys got trolled. Fugitioid makes an appearance near the end of the book, so no mention of time travel

[NinjaMan]

Uhhhh....I think you guys got trolled. Fugitioid makes an appearance near the end of the book, so no mention of time travel

You want me to post a pic of the page?

[Papenbrook]

Uhhhh....I think you guys got trolled. Fugitioid makes an appearance near the end of the book, so no mention of time travel
Wait...,what do you mean? What ACTUALLY happens? Was NinjaMan lying this whole time?!

[NinjaMan]

I'm gonna post pics of the pages.

[NinjaMan]

http://i.imgur.com/sQ6jWPF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SoiWD5G.jpg

Still think I'm trolling?

[CyberCubed]

That's it, I gotta stay out of this thread. I think I've read too much.

[TurFlytle]

It takes 6 months for the Triceratons to fin the parts. They were hidden by the Ultroms I believe in different parts of space. So the Turtles and Casey and April need to find the parts in those 6 months. It's a pretty dark read for a childeren books. Even after Shredder kills Splinter he doesn't even care that the Triceratons are destroying Earth. Oh and Bishop is awesome in this. He can fight hand to hand and took on a few Triceratons by himself.

So, Bishop is as badass as he was in the 2003 series. Good.

[Bitsy83]

I guess I need to read those parts again. You didn't mention fugitoid and I didn't see Splinter being stabbed. My bad. Still going to post my paraphrases, though.

[NinjaMan]

I guess I need to read those parts again. You didn't mention fugitoid and I didn't see Splinter being stabbed. My bad. Still going to post my paraphrases, though.

Next time don't jump to conclusions. Should I post the page describing Splinter being stabbed?

[TurFlytle]

Next time don't jump to conclusions. Should I post the page describing Splinter being stabbed?

Yes, I think you should. Rather as well.

[Papenbrook]

Next time don't jump to conclusions. Should I post the page describing Splinter being stabbed?
Sorry I accused you of lying.

[NinjaMan]

http://i.imgur.com/XLi6pXD.jpg

[ToTheNines]

Man, I know I should not have looked at spoilers.... but eff whoever approved this being released so early.

On second thought, we can probably blame it on the hiatus stuff and they never bothered to change the book date.

[Metalwolf]

Well, I guess the last spoiler I know of is that they are going to cure Karai in season 3. Kinda stinks they won't end up killing Shredder in Mega-Shredder, but at least Karai will get her full humanity back. :(

[Bitsy83]

Well, since the ending has already been posted, do you guys still want me to post the rest of the book with details? Seems kinda pointless at this point.

[evan2000]

Well, since the ending has already been posted, do you guys still want me to post the rest of the book with details? Seems kinda pointless at this point.

The ending was posted without details. Post any additional details you have? :tgrin:

Also, seems like the book is a text novel, not a picture novel like the Alien Attack! book (which introduced Mona Lisa). Are there any pictures in the book at all (other than the cover art)?

(I assume spoiler tags are no longer necessary? The title already said so)

Anyway, MAN, this series is getting as dark as the 2003 series would go! The last time Splinter was stabbed was in the 2003 episode "The Darkness Within" right? And even then it wasn't reality, this time it's for real!

Some theories based on what was implied by the book:
- Shredder kinda make-shift to form an ally with Splinter (or so we thought) when the 3rd invasion came, as this time the invaders aren't on his side and they have to work together to save humanity
- Shredder betrays Splinter (duh... he didn't care for humanity anyway... muahahahaha...) and stabs him in the chest
- April blasts Shredder away :roll: and Splinter speaks some last words and dies :cry:
- The turtles and April reluctantly leaves Splinter and escapes via Fugitoid's spaceship as the earth gets swallowed by the black hole generator
- I think, the black hole generator was invented by Fugitoid himself (he could have been forced to do so by the Kraang as a weapon against the Triceratons)
- Casey's not with them... something bad happened to him too? Or he was swallowed together into the black hole, along with Shredder & co, Bishop, the Mighty Mutanimals and everyone else on Earth?
- So, they travel back to six months ago, what's next? Will they spend the next six months mostly in space? The entire first half of Season 4?
- Can Fugitoid's spaceship open a portal into Dimension X? Or just the outer space within Earth's dimension?
- They should be meeting Mona Lisa, Armaggon, and Lord Dregg during this space (and/or Dimension X) arc
- What about the OT dimension? It's still on track for them to meet their OT counterparts right?
- Where are their actual past selves during this six months? Still at the farm house?
- Will they be coming back to earth to set some history on course again? We might see more explanation of things that happened off-screen during that period in NYC (like how Splinter lost his mind?) and maybe even the weird stuffs that happened at the farmhouse
- Maybe, just maybe, they met Bishop in space and actually sent him to warn their past selves about the Triceratons invasion
I'm kinda glad the time travelling arc does not end right after Tale of the Yokai, there's so much more potential ahead! :D

[KrN]

Well, since the ending has already been posted, do you guys still want me to post the rest of the book with details? Seems kinda pointless at this point.

Yes! I'm curious if Karai was in this mess at all? Or if her whereabouts were mentioned?

[neatoman]

So is it clearly the same Shredder we know or is it possible for it to be another character?

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I picked up the book and read it today (I don't know what took you guys so long to read it its large print not that many pages but anyway nevermind) I'll pick up where Bitsy left off and try to answer the questions as best I can. First of all I cannot wait for these episodes so awesome!
Regarding Karrai, all that is said is that* shredder asks Splinter where is she and all he says in reply is* that she is gone, doesn't say anything about her humanity or mind being back,* just that she's gone but still on earth which is why shredder agrees to an alliance
They form an alliance to destroy the Triceratons black hole creator machine which they call the Heart of darkness,* but during the battle shredder betrays splinter. The part where shredder kills, literally kills, Splinter is so intense! It says in the book his heart stopped beating, and all the turtles surround him crying, as Shredder just laughs and says "Finally, Hamato Yoshi is finished! Earth can be destroyed for all I care. I have Finally won!"
*
After splinters death, while the earth is about to be destroyed, professor Honeycutt shows up, and takes the Turtles April and Casey into his spaceship they go back in time 6 months into the past as he explains to them that the Triceratons* have been searching for the parts for the heart of darkness for the past 6 months but now it's up to the Turtles April and Casey to find all the pieces before the Triceratons,* to stop the invasion of the earth.

Regarding Bishop; I can't wait to see him in action! There's no picture of him in the book just the discription, but it does discribe his fighting style, which sounds very similar to 2k3 version. It says he's always "in constant motion, kicking, punching, and firing his energy gun" and I don't think anyone has said what happens to him. He's fighting off Triceratons when one sneaks up behind him shoots him in the back, destroying his body, and his Utrom body runs away squealing.

I'm most excited about the Fugitiod, I'm a big Doctor Who fan and the book describes him having a "distinguished British accent" LOL. I also find it funny that his ship not only flies through space, but time as well.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Also; it says the it's based on the teleplays "Annihilation: Earth! Part 1" Annihilation: Earth! Part 2" and "Beyond the Known Universe" by Brandon Auman.

[evan2000]

Thanks TurtleTron! :D

Also; it says the it's based on the teleplays "Annihilation: Earth! Part 1" Annihilation: Earth! Part 2" and "Beyond the Known Universe" by Brandon Auman.

So Season 3 will again end with a cliff-hanger and the first episode of Season 4 is Beyond the Known Universe

[Papenbrook]

Mind blown! Wow...

[yellowmario27]

I wonder if people will post this these spoilers all over tumblr. Hopefully it won't spread too fast, I've seen people get mad when they accidentally get spoiled about what comes next

[Bitsy83]

I think you are doing fine. Will you post the rest of the book, please? Thank you.

Appreciate the compliment, Kraken. I'm going to try to post the rest of the book. I have it here in front of me and I could try to paraphrase chapter by chapter. Shouldn't take too long since I only have about 50 some pages and this is a preteen-reading level book.

Ok, part 2:

The Turtles and allies start to attack the Triceratons. Slash and Leatherhead make an attempt to destroy the Heart of Darkness (what the Triceratons call the Black Hole Simulator), but are unable to completely destroy it. The Triceratons use force-field generators and trap Slash, Rockwell, and Leatherhead. Mikey tries to save Leatherhead, but Mozar beams down and traps Mikey, taking him prisoner aboard the ship before the others can save him. Casey makes an attempt, but he gets caught in a force field as well. April tries to save him, but Raph stops her and tells her they need to retreat. She promises to come back for Casey and Splinter calls for a retreat. As they're escaping, Donnie sees a device on one of the fallen Triceratons and takes it with them.

Back on the ship, Mozar takes Mikey to Commander Zolin and tells them what happened back on Earth. Mikey pleads with the Triceratons to spare Earth, but they won't listen. Then, somehow, Mikey uses his "ninja training" and punches out the forcefield, then attacks, but Zolin easily stops him. He asks Mozar what they should do and Mozar suggests using a "Psonic Extractor," a device only used for the most dangerous of criminals. Zolin is hesitant, but obeys and they bring out a large chair covered in blades and prongs.

Meanwhile, back on a building, the others are trying to figure out how to save Mikey and the other Mutanimals that were captured. Splinter says the Black Hold generator is the top priority, but Leo argues that Mikey is more important. So Splinter tells Leo to take his brothers to save Mikey and the others. Meanwhile, April and Splinter will assist the aide of someone even more powerful than the mutanimals: The Shredder. (Ok, breathe a sigh of relief, people. Shredder will NOT be that giant monster...or he won't be that for very long).

On the Mother ship, Mikey is attached to the Extractor and Mozar explains that it will drain him of all knowledge of Earth and the Kraang. Also, it will chop and slice his psyche to bits. The Extractor is turned on and a beam of energy goes into Mikey's head....causing him to burst into hysterical laughter. Mozar is confused as to why Mikey is enjoying himself and orders the machine to be turned off. Mikey, however, said it was "better than a hundred, million roller coasters through space" and begs them to turn it back on. The only useful information they were able to get from Mikey was pizza. Mozar is so upset, he orders Mikey to be destroyed. He's hooked back up to the extractor, but Mikey says that he can help the Triceratons because he knows all the Kraang bases in Dimension X. This intrigues Mozar and decides to keep Mikey alive, but Mikey was secretly lying to buy himself more time.

Splinter and April go to Shredder's lair, only to be attacked by Bebop, Tiger Claw, and Rocksteady. Before the fight can continue, Shredder appears and asks why they have come. Splinter tells Shredder that their feud is pointless in an invasion and asks for help against the Triceratons. Shredder, however, wants to know where Karai is and demands her location. Splinter says they have searched the city for her, but she is gone. Shredder doesn't believe them and is about to attack Shredder when April tells Shredder that he has a chance to be a hero for once. If he really loves Karai, he should fight the Triceratons because if they win and the world is blown up, Karai will be killed along with it. This seems to get Shredder's attention...

The Turtles, meanwhile, find the ship Mikey had been flying with Casey and hijack it, heading straight towards the mother ship. Donnie is able to get the cloaking feature working, but the Triceratons are still able to detect them. Raptor ships are sent out to attack them. Leo asks Donnie how they can be spotted, to which Donnie retorts. "Let me text them and find out. I HAVE NO IDEA!!!" (Had to put that in!) They were able to fight off one ship, but then the Mother ship fires a plasma cannon directly at them and their ship is destroyed. Fortunately, the device that Donnie had grabbed earlier was a teleporter. Just before the ship exploded, Donnie was able to teleport them directly on to the ship where the Triceratons were waiting.

Back at Washington Square, the Triceratons were completing the work on the Black hole generator. Shredder, Splinter, and the others manage to sneak past the defenses just as the generator gets booted up.

On the mother ship, the Turtles are reunited with Mikey and brought before Mozar. Donnie begs him that Earth has too much potential to be destroyed, in which Mozar argues how the planet has been suffering under the human's rule even without the Kraang's help (pollution, ozone layer, etc.). Leo tells them that if they don't change their mind now, he was going to destroy the Triceratons. Mozar thinks he's bluffing, but Leo then grabs a teleporter off a nearby guard and throws it at the wall. It takes out a chunk of the wall and creates a vacuum, sucking them all into space. Mozar unintentionally blocks the hole with his body, giving Mikey enough time to grab another teleporter off a nearby Triceraton and zaps them all back to Earth in the middle of the battle. April is able to save Casey from the forcefield, but is unable to save the rest of the Mutanimals and is forced to escape with Casey.

(You guys already know about this, but...)

Splinter and Shredder are fighting the Triceratons and just as Splinter is able to shut down the “Heart of Darkness”....Shredder stabs Splinter. The Turtles run to Splinter’s aide while April knocks Shredder out with a psychic blast. As the Turtles are craddling Splinter’s body, Shredder is satisfied that Splinter is finally dead (Yeah..he really does die. I just couldn’t believe they would let that happen in this cartoon. Again, sorry for the troll accusation. I will never live that down).

Just as the Heart of Darkness starts to destroy all of Earth, a spaceship hovers down and a small figure invites the Turtles, Casey, and April aboard. The Earth is destroyed, the Triceratons celebrate and leave.

The Turtles are in shock about what just happened until Fugitoid appears and asks them if they’d like some hot cocoa. He then tells them they’re about to embark an wonderous adventure. Also, he knows who they all are and even their names. Before the Turtles can find out anything more, Honeycutt activates the ship to go back in time 6 months before the destruction.

He then goes on to tell them about how the Utroms had broken down the black hole generator into three fragments and spread them across the universe. They make a plan to find the fragments before the Triceratons do, but they only have one chance to do this. According to Honeycutt, “a blackhole prevents repeated localized time travel. Because even time is subject to its attraction.” Honeycutt says he’s helping them because Bishop had sent for him and he is a friend of the Utroms. Also, he’s a “c-c-cyborg.” He actually has a human brain inside his suit, which Casey and Mikey think is totally awesome. Honeycutt then shows them the galaxy and their new space suits, including alien language converters. He also had them glow in their appropriate colors because Honeycutt has a hard time telling them apart, which he chuckles. The Turtles are loving this and Leo immediately goes into Space Heroes mode. Even April and Casey get specialized suits as well.

And so, the book ends with the Turtles and friends going into space to search for the fragments.


Again, I want to apologize for any rudeness or delays I have caused. I wanted to make these as detailed as possible because I know you guys really wanted to know what happened. Also, I have a job and house to take care of, so life kept getting in the way so it was hard for me to find the time to type all this up. Hope I’m not repeating too much stuff.

[Vicky82]

I wonder if people will post this these spoilers all over tumblr. Hopefully it won't spread too fast, I've seen people get mad when they accidentally get spoiled about what comes next

people already have, luckily I managed to avoid them.

[evan2000]

Appreciate the compliment, Kraken. I'm going to try to post the rest of the book. I have it here in front of me and I could try to paraphrase chapter by chapter. Shouldn't take too long since I only have about 50 some pages and this is a preteen-reading level book.

Ok, part 2:

The Turtles and allies start to attack the Triceratons. Slash and Leatherhead make an attempt to destroy the Heart of Darkness (what the Triceratons call the Black Hole Simulator), but are unable to completely destroy it. The Triceratons use force-field generators and trap Slash, Rockwell, and Leatherhead. Mikey tries to save Leatherhead, but Mozar beams down and traps Mikey, taking him prisoner aboard the ship before the others can save him. Casey makes an attempt, but he gets caught in a force field as well. April tries to save him, but Raph stops her and tells her they need to retreat. She promises to come back for Casey and Splinter calls for a retreat. As they're escaping, Donnie sees a device on one of the fallen Triceratons and takes it with them.

Back on the ship, Mozar takes Mikey to Commander Zolin and tells them what happened back on Earth. Mikey pleads with the Triceratons to spare Earth, but they won't listen. Then, somehow, Mikey uses his "ninja training" and punches out the forcefield, then attacks, but Zolin easily stops him. He asks Mozar what they should do and Mozar suggests using a "Psonic Extractor," a device only used for the most dangerous of criminals. Zolin is hesitant, but obeys and they bring out a large chair covered in blades and prongs.

Meanwhile, back on a building, the others are trying to figure out how to save Mikey and the other Mutanimals that were captured. Splinter says the Black Hold generator is the top priority, but Leo argues that Mikey is more important. So Splinter tells Leo to take his brothers to save Mikey and the others. Meanwhile, April and Splinter will assist the aide of someone even more powerful than the mutanimals: The Shredder. (Ok, breathe a sigh of relief, people. Shredder will NOT be that giant monster...or he won't be that for very long).

On the Mother ship, Mikey is attached to the Extractor and Mozar explains that it will drain him of all knowledge of Earth and the Kraang. Also, it will chop and slice his psyche to bits. The Extractor is turned on and a beam of energy goes into Mikey's head....causing him to burst into hysterical laughter. Mozar is confused as to why Mikey is enjoying himself and orders the machine to be turned off. Mikey, however, said it was "better than a hundred, million roller coasters through space" and begs them to turn it back on. The only useful information they were able to get from Mikey was pizza. Mozar is so upset, he orders Mikey to be destroyed. He's hooked back up to the extractor, but Mikey says that he can help the Triceratons because he knows all the Kraang bases in Dimension X. This intrigues Mozar and decides to keep Mikey alive, but Mikey was secretly lying to buy himself more time.

Splinter and April go to Shredder's lair, only to be attacked by Bebop, Tiger Claw, and Rocksteady. Before the fight can continue, Shredder appears and asks why they have come. Splinter tells Shredder that their feud is pointless in an invasion and asks for help against the Triceratons. Shredder, however, wants to know where Karai is and demands her location. Splinter says they have searched the city for her, but she is gone. Shredder doesn't believe them and is about to attack Shredder when April tells Shredder that he has a chance to be a hero for once. If he really loves Karai, he should fight the Triceratons because if they win and the world is blown up, Karai will be killed along with it. This seems to get Shredder's attention...

The Turtles, meanwhile, find the ship Mikey had been flying with Casey and hijack it, heading straight towards the mother ship. Donnie is able to get the cloaking feature working, but the Triceratons are still able to detect them. Raptor ships are sent out to attack them. Leo asks Donnie how they can be spotted, to which Donnie retorts. "Let me text them and find out. I HAVE NO IDEA!!!" (Had to put that in!) They were able to fight off one ship, but then the Mother ship fires a plasma cannon directly at them and their ship is destroyed. Fortunately, the device that Donnie had grabbed earlier was a teleporter. Just before the ship exploded, Donnie was able to teleport them directly on to the ship where the Triceratons were waiting.

Back at Washington Square, the Triceratons were completing the work on the Black hole generator. Shredder, Splinter, and the others manage to sneak past the defenses just as the generator gets booted up.

On the mother ship, the Turtles are reunited with Mikey and brought before Mozar. Donnie begs him that Earth has too much potential to be destroyed, in which Mozar argues how the planet has been suffering under the human's rule even without the Kraang's help (pollution, ozone layer, etc.). Leo tells them that if they don't change their mind now, he was going to destroy the Triceratons. Mozar thinks he's bluffing, but Leo then grabs a teleporter off a nearby guard and throws it at the wall. It takes out a chunk of the wall and creates a vacuum, sucking them all into space. Mozar unintentionally blocks the hole with his body, giving Mikey enough time to grab another teleporter off a nearby Triceraton and zaps them all back to Earth in the middle of the battle. April is able to save Casey from the forcefield, but is unable to save the rest of the Mutanimals and is forced to escape with Casey.

(You guys already know about this, but...)

Splinter and Shredder are fighting the Triceratons and just as Splinter is able to shut down the “Heart of Darkness”....Shredder stabs Splinter. The Turtles run to Splinter’s aide while April knocks Shredder out with a psychic blast. As the Turtles are craddling Splinter’s body, Shredder is satisfied that Splinter is finally dead (Yeah..he really does die. I just couldn’t believe they would let that happen in this cartoon. Again, sorry for the troll accusation. I will never live that down).

Just as the Heart of Darkness starts to destroy all of Earth, a spaceship hovers down and a small figure invites the Turtles, Casey, and April aboard. The Earth is destroyed, the Triceratons celebrate and leave.

The Turtles are in shock about what just happened until Fugitoid appears and asks them if they’d like some hot cocoa. He then tells them they’re about to embark an wonderous adventure. Also, he knows who they all are and even their names. Before the Turtles can find out anything more, Honeycutt activates the ship to go back in time 6 months before the destruction.

He then goes on to tell them about how the Utroms had broken down the black hole generator into three fragments and spread them across the universe. They make a plan to find the fragments before the Triceratons do, but they only have one chance to do this. According to Honeycutt, “a blackhole prevents repeated localized time travel. Because even time is subject to its attraction.” Honeycutt says he’s helping them because Bishop had sent for him and he is a friend of the Utroms. Also, he’s a “c-c-cyborg.” He actually has a human brain inside his suit, which Casey and Mikey think is totally awesome. Honeycutt then shows them the galaxy and their new space suits, including alien language converters. He also had them glow in their appropriate colors because Honeycutt has a hard time telling them apart, which he chuckles. The Turtles are loving this and Leo immediately goes into Space Heroes mode. Even April and Casey get specialized suits as well.

And so, the book ends with the Turtles and friends going into space to search for the fragments.


Again, I want to apologize for any rudeness or delays I have caused. I wanted to make these as detailed as possible because I know you guys really wanted to know what happened. Also, I have a job and house to take care of, so life kept getting in the way so it was hard for me to find the time to type all this up. Hope I’m not repeating too much stuff.

Alright, so Casey survives. Thanks Bitsy! Really appreciate your time and effort to do this :tgrin:

I guess Season 3 finale will abruptly end at Splinter's death (plus the Triceratons' victory), so people will be eager to catch the Season 4 premiere to know what happens next (at least, people who are not spoiled by the book :trazz:)

[Leofan26]

More spoilers we get the more I'm actually looking forward to :D

[JH24]

My sincere thanks to everyone who posted information/spoilers about the upcoming story arc.

I have to admit this has actually rekindled my interest and excitement for this series again. It seems they're taking a new angle and are actually able to make it work.

It's nice to know Casey will be part of the group as well. I was actually worried they would just leave him behind on Earth.

[Bauer536]

Okay. With Splinter dead, the turtles must be crying.

[RandomtasticFantasy]

Thanks for the spoilers!

I wonder how much of the previous plot will be changed due to them going back six months in the past? Other than obviously saving Splinter and the Earth. Or maybe it won't go that deeply into it.

[Vicky82]

Well thanks to some idiots on Tumblr. :x

I now know that.

Splinter dies :cry:

I don't know how he dies and I don't want to know. But I like to know if he does actually die or do the turtles think he's dead like the season 2 final.

please don't give any major details just give me a yes or no answer.

[Sabacooza]

Well thanks to some idiots on Tumblr. :x

I now know that.

Splinter dies :cry:

I don't know how he dies and I don't want to know. But I like to know if he does actually die or do the turtles think he's dead like the season 2 final.

please don't give any major details just give me a yes or no answer.
yes he does

[victory_angel]

Well thanks to some idiots on Tumblr. :x

I now know that.

Splinter dies :cry:

I don't know how he dies and I don't want to know. But I like to know if he does actually die or do the turtles think he's dead like the season 2 final.

please don't give any major details just give me a yes or no answer.


He actually does die in front of his sons and April. I can't say much more then that as you have said yo didn't want to know further details.

[BubblyShell22]

He does die, but it appears that he won't be fully dead since Fugitoid has taken them back six months in time so it looks like they have to try and prevent Splinter from dying. Pretty dark for a kids' show, and I can't wait for it. This is going to be awesome. And I'm also glad we'll see more of Geeky Leo. I love Geeky Leo!

[Vicky82]

He actually does die in front of his sons and April. I can't say much more then that as you have said yo didn't want to know further details.

Ok thanks and thanks for no saying too much.

Looks like i'll have to get a box of tissues ready for the final :cry:

[Bauer536]

So, do the turtles cry, or do they not get the time to?

[Redworld96]

Well thanks to some idiots on Tumblr. :x

I now know that.

Splinter dies :cry:

I don't know how he dies and I don't want to know. But I like to know if he does actually die or do the turtles think he's dead like the season 2 final.

please don't give any major details just give me a yes or no answer.


The problem on tumblr is that some people, even though they warn about spoilers, don't hide the information, and unconsciously someone who didnt want to know, ends up reading it.
I dont mind if they are minor spoilers (like promos, descriptions, clips or photos about the next episode), but a complete final season.... it's a major spoiler.

[NinjaMan]

Wanted to mention that the Triceratons seem really strong in this. There's a sense of dread when they start coming down in swarms. Even Leatherhead and Slash struggle against them. No way the turtles could handle them one on one if they decide to do the arena scene from Mirage unless the turtles get some powerup.

Oh and there's a brutal scene
Mondo Gecko tries to take on 2 Triceratons who proceed to jump on him like their own personal trampoline.

[Metalwolf]

Thanks for the spoilers!

I wonder how much of the previous plot will be changed due to them going back six months in the past? Other than obviously saving Splinter and the Earth. Or maybe it won't go that deeply into it. Educated Guestimation: Possibly they might end up going back to right before Karai's mutation. Time since undoing Invasion likely one month, time spent in North Hampton 3 months, which leaves roughly two months before Karai's mutation. Depending on when they finish collecting/destroying the 'Heart of Darkness' they theoretically could arrive just in time to prevent her from ever getting mutated.

[yellowmario27]

Remember in Dinosaurs in the Sewers clip Mikey rewinds the show he was watching so the character wouldn't die? Do you think it's supposed to reference what happens to splinter? Like them going back 6 months and avoiding that scenario

[Papenbrook]

Try not to think about it too much. Besides, I can see the show trying to tone down what happens in the book.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I've got to say I'm excited to see the alliance between the turtles and the foot clan, however short it may be. There is a really cool scene where Tigerclaw saves April and Casey from a Triceraton.

[evan2000]

Question, are there any pictures in the book other than the cover art?

[yellowmario27]

to anyone who's read the book, Do you guys recommend the book to read?

I usually prefer books because there's more detail and we get a better idea of how a character feels, but since this is a children's book it might now have a lot of detail , i'm wondering if it's even worth it?

[TurFlytle]

Try not to think about it too much. Besides, I can see the show trying to tone down what happens in the book.

Well, then again it was adapted from an episode that was already made, so it might be the same. The book is for children, remember.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Question, are there any pictures in the book other than the cover art?

Yeah, but just of Leatherhead, Slash, Biotriod, Rocksteady, Bebop, Tigerclaw, and the Turtles in their Spacesuits. There are two new ink drawings, like those in a coloring book, of a Triceraton and Honeycutt.

[Ursalink]

Appreciate the compliment, Kraken. I'm going to try to post the rest of the book. I have it here in front of me and I could try to paraphrase chapter by chapter. Shouldn't take too long since I only have about 50 some pages and this is a preteen-reading level book.

Ok, part 2:

Again, I want to apologize for any rudeness or delays I have caused. I wanted to make these as detailed as possible because I know you guys really wanted to know what happened. Also, I have a job and house to take care of, so life kept getting in the way so it was hard for me to find the time to type all this up. Hope I’m not repeating too much stuff.

Bitsy83, forgive me, but I must be lost. Can you please post Part 1 of the book? There are a few things that doesn't suit very well around here. For example:
+ Considering Mega Shredder's episode, looks like before the series finale, Karai manages to escape from the Shredder.
+ I don't see in the second part how the Triceratons appear on Earth and prepare to destroy it.
+ How Bishop appeared in the book and revealed to be an Utrom?

Can you please post the first part of the book?

Now, if you allow me to comment, I think this story is essentially the same from another one I saw in another place: "Ben 10 Alien Force - Vilgax Attacks".

In this videogame, Vilgax (Ben 10's archnemesis) invades the Earth using a Null Void projector which beams Null Void prisoners to Earth. Ben and his team snap into action to defend their hometown Bellwood from the attacks. They defeat Vilgax's minions, but then Vilgax try to destroy Earth with his ultimate weapon. Just then, Professor Paradox (time-traveler character similar to Doctor Who) appears and teleports Ben 10's team back to the past to stop Vilgax's plan before it happens. Looks like Vilgax needs an energy core to energize his Null Void projector and use it to take over Earth. So, if all energy cores are destroyed, Vilgax won't be able to use the projector. Ben 10 travel so several planets in the galaxy, looking for the energy cores to destroy them. After all cores are destroyed, they return to Earth, back in the same moment where everything started; only this time, Vilgax's projector doesn't work. Unfortunately, after defeating Vilgax, he managed to activate the projector with another energy source and try to use it to destroy Earth; however, Ben 10 uses the omnipotent Alien X to turn the machine against Vilgax and destroy his ship instead.

I figure this will be the same story. The series finale for season 4 will be probably a "deja vu" of Season 3's finale; only this time, we will have two turtle teams. I can imagine how the turtles will change history to avoid tragedy and time paradox:
+ Future Turtles will rescue the captured Mutanimals and send them to Earth, where they will be able to protect Splinter from the Shredder. Which means, this time, right before Shredder backstabs Splinter, Slash teleports behind him and hit Shredder with his mace, saving Splinter's life.
+ So, while the "Past Turtles" protect the earth, the "Future Turtles" destroy the Triceraton's fleet, saving the Earth. In the end, Past Fugitoid takes the Past Turtles with him, ending the time loop; while the Future Turtles stay on Earth, back home.

[victory_angel]

Bitsy83, forgive me, but I must be lost. Can you please post Part 1 of the book? There are a few things that doesn't suit very well around here. For example:
+ Considering Mega Shredder's episode, looks like before the series finale, Karai manages to escape from the Shredder.
+ I don't see in the second part how the Triceratons appear on Earth and prepare to destroy it.
+ How Bishop appeared in the book and revealed to be an Utrom?

Can you please post the first part of the book?

Now, if you allow me to comment, I think this story is essentially the same from another one I saw in another place: "Ben 10 Alien Force - Vilgax Attacks".

In this videogame, Vilgax (Ben 10's archnemesis) invades the Earth using a Null Void projector which beams Null Void prisoners to Earth. Ben and his team snap into action to defend their hometown Bellwood from the attacks. They defeat Vilgax's minions, but then Vilgax try to destroy Earth with his ultimate weapon. Just then, Professor Paradox (time-traveler character similar to Doctor Who) appears and teleports Ben 10's team back to the past to stop Vilgax's plan before it happens. Looks like Vilgax needs an energy core to energize his Null Void projector and use it to take over Earth. So, if all energy cores are destroyed, Vilgax won't be able to use the projector. Ben 10 travel so several planets in the galaxy, looking for the energy cores to destroy them. After all cores are destroyed, they return to Earth, back in the same moment where everything started; only this time, Vilgax's projector doesn't work. Unfortunately, after defeating Vilgax, he managed to activate the projector with another energy source and try to use it to destroy Earth; however, Ben 10 uses the omnipotent Alien X to turn the machine against Vilgax and destroy his ship instead.

I figure this will be the same story. The series finale for season 4 will be probably a "deja vu" of Season 3's finale; only this time, we will have two turtle teams. I can imagine how the turtles will change history to avoid tragedy and time paradox:
+ Future Turtles will rescue the captured Mutanimals and send them to Earth, where they will be able to protect Splinter from the Shredder. Which means, this time, right before Shredder backstabs Splinter, Slash teleports behind him and hit Shredder with his mace, saving Splinter's life.
+ So, while the "Past Turtles" protect the earth, the "Future Turtles" destroy the Triceraton's fleet, saving the Earth. In the end, Past Fugitoid takes the Past Turtles with him, ending the time loop; while the Future Turtles stay on Earth, back home.

Bitsy's post about the first part of the book can be found here. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1494157&postcount=35

Hope this helps answer a few questions you may have had.

[Foombamaroom]

Wanted to mention that the Triceratons seem really strong in this. There's a sense of dread when they start coming down in swarms. Even Leatherhead and Slash struggle against them. No way the turtles could handle them one on one if they decide to do the arena scene from Mirage unless the turtles get some powerup.

Oh and there's a brutal scene
Mondo Gecko tries to take on 2 Triceratons who proceed to jump on him like their own personal trampoline.

That arena scene would be fantastic. I'm hoping they do that.

And HOLY F*CKING SH*T. This show keeps getting DARKER AND DARKER AND I F*CKING LOVE IT SO MUCH.
Let's spoiler tag, shall we?

Splinter getting killed by Shredder? YES. JUST YES. That's AMAZING storytelling right there, and it gives the Turtles such an incentive to win. Now, instead of the city at loss, the whole world is at loss. This is brutal. However, I'm 50/50 with Splinter being killed as brutally in the show as in the book. The blades popping out of the chest might be a little much for the show. But then again, this whole finale seems dark as hell, so it might work.

I'm glad the Kraang aren't the main antagonists of the finale and the Triceratons are. It's nice to know that they're a force to be reckoned with. Bishop being an ally to the Turtles has me worried for one reason: what if he's not in control of the EPF? I want Bishop to be leading the anti-mutant task force in Season 4. You know, only using the Turtles in this finale as allies, but really, he will eliminate them once he gets the chance. I wonder who his voice actor is as well.

It sounds like we'll be getting the Utrom homeworld if we're getting Honeycutt. Maybe we'll be getting Mortu as well. I'm actually kinda glad that Casey and April are with them. I liked the dynamic between the 6 of them at the farmhouse.

But the main thing I wanna talk about is how wrong we were. A lot of people thought the finale would be Shredder getting defeated. Oh, we were so wrong. I'm so glad Shredder's not defeated now, but they NEED to play it right. With Splinter "dead" (let's be honest here, he'll be back.) it just makes the hatred the Turtles have for him much, much stronger. They need to play off on that. They missed their opportunity with the Leo one-shot, so I'm hoping that once they defeat the Triceratons, Shredder becomes their top priority.


Also, please read this because I really want an answer:
Did any of the Turtles have any sort of reaction towards Shredder, or were they too busy cradling Splinter's body?

[matteso586]

A thought occurred to me. Bishop said The Kraang's human disguise originated from an idea he came up with, right? So what if that's not the only technology based idea they stole? Think about it, how else did the shapeshifter have access to the real Mrs. O'Neil's memories?

[Werecat]

He does die, but it appears that he won't be fully dead since Fugitoid has taken them back six months in time so it looks like they have to try and prevent Splinter from dying. Pretty dark for a kids' show, and I can't wait for it. This is going to be awesome. And I'm also glad we'll see more of Geeky Leo. I love Geeky Leo!

How is that dark? How to Train Your Dragon had dismemberment and character death and no one is calling that super dark. Old Disney movies had character death too. Peeps just need to be creative and not go all loosey goosey and post gore everywhere.

Also you guys are too quick to forget the ol' series were Splinter was injured and regenerated by the utroms. duh. I mean come on, if you can master space flying and time travel technology, I am pretty sure you would have invented greater life-saving technology along the way. But you know inventing time travel is much easier to saving a life...

Oh and I really hope TMNT do a reference to The Edge of Tomorrow or Groundhog day, mainly The Edge of Tomorrow cause it deals with aliens, time travel, and challenges fate.

[TurFlytle]

How is that dark? How to Train Your Dragon had dismemberment and character death and no one is calling that super dark. Old Disney movies had character death too. Peeps just need to be creative and not go all loosey goosey and post gore everywhere.

Also you guys are too quick to forget the ol' series were Splinter was injured and regenerated by the utroms. duh. I mean come on, if you can master space flying and time travel technology, I am pretty sure you would have invented greater life-saving technology along the way. But you know inventing time travel is much easier to saving a life...



Well, the reason why it's dark is because Splinter has never died in a main TMNT cartoon. He died in Mirage, but not in the rest of the media. So, it's unique in a sense. Yes, Disney villains die, but that's how Disney goes. Nick on the other hand, don't let some of those slip by. But then again, they promote a show that mostly has fart jokes.

[Bauer536]

Okay, I found the book, but where does it say that the turtles cried? I didn't seem to find that. Something hopes in me that the turtles cry, but I wouldn't be surprised if they only made extremely sad faces. It's not going to upset me, but I'd love it if they sobbed a bit over their situation.

[Foombamaroom]

Okay, I found the book, but where does it say that the turtles cried? I didn't seem to find that. Something hopes in me that the turtles cry, but I wouldn't be surprised if they only made extremely sad faces. It's not going to upset me, but I'd love it if they sobbed a bit over their situation.

I'd love that, too. I'd also love if they turned it into rage, aka having some sort of reaction towards Shredder.

[blindturtle02]

Whoa. Didn't see that coming. Kind of cool though considering how he was in 2K3.

I'm glad he's coming back. Figured it was only a matter of time, but I didn't want to get my hopes up.

[TLP]

Splinter getting killed by Shredder? YES. JUST YES. That's AMAZING storytelling right there, and it gives the Turtles such an incentive to win. Now, instead of the city at loss, the whole world is at loss. This is brutal. However, I'm 50/50 with Splinter being killed as brutally in the show as in the book. The blades popping out of the chest might be a little much for the show. But then again, this whole finale seems dark as hell, so it might work.

I'm glad the Kraang aren't the main antagonists of the finale and the Triceratons are. It's nice to know that they're a force to be reckoned with. Bishop being an ally to the Turtles has me worried for one reason: what if he's not in control of the EPF? I want Bishop to be leading the anti-mutant task force in Season 4. You know, only using the Turtles in this finale as allies, but really, he will eliminate them once he gets the chance. I wonder who his voice actor is as well.

It sounds like we'll be getting the Utrom homeworld if we're getting Honeycutt. Maybe we'll be getting Mortu as well. I'm actually kinda glad that Casey and April are with them. I liked the dynamic between the 6 of them at the farmhouse.

But the main thing I wanna talk about is how wrong we were. A lot of people thought the finale would be Shredder getting defeated. Oh, we were so wrong. I'm so glad Shredder's not defeated now, but they NEED to play it right. With Splinter "dead" (let's be honest here, he'll be back.) it just makes the hatred the Turtles have for him much, much stronger. They need to play off on that. They missed their opportunity with the Leo one-shot, so I'm hoping that once they defeat the Triceratons, Shredder becomes their top priority.


EXACTLY my thoughts.

I can safely say that after reading the spoilers (curse you curiosity!), TMNT 2K12 has some of the best storytelling, and most threatening/powerful villains, I have ever seen in an action cartoon since Young Justice. I'm willing to bet Brandon Aumann must have had a huge part in these dark moments, since his work has shown that he can do suspense and a feeling of hopelessness well, also as seen earlier in the show. The crew themselves have done a fantastic job with this show!

THIS is what shows like Ultimate Spider-Man should have been. TMNT didn't waste its potential with lame antagonists or stories that went nowhere. It proves that you can do a successful kids show with loads of humorous moments and still not dumb down the writing to the point where it is "playing it safe". I hope TMNT continues to live up to the quality it has put forth for future seasons!

[snake]

stories that went nowhere.

I agree with most of your post, but c'mon man, there has been a ton of stories that went nowhere and served no purpose.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Well, the reason why it's dark is because Splinter has never died in a main TMNT cartoon. He died in Mirage, but not in the rest of the media. So, it's unique in a sense.

Same As It Never Was says "Hi".

[shredder orokusaki]

But it is the first tieme that i will kill him in the cartoon. In mirrage he died because he was too old not because someone killed him. It will give me great pleasure to see him dead!!1 mUHAHAHHHAAHHAHA

[Autbot_Benz]

But it is the first tieme that i will kill him in the cartoon. In mirrage he died because he was too old not because someone killed him. It will give me great pleasure to see him dead!!1 mUHAHAHHHAAHHAHA

http://i61.tinypic.com/27x4g1s.jpg get a life you stupid troll

[Hero]

I'm guessing that was meant to be some sort of roleplay post.

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm guessing that was meant to be some sort of roleplay post.

He has been told numerous times not to roleplay in the nick section and he keeps doing it. Its super annoying.

[yellowmario27]

If people stop responding to him and ignore him all together he would probably stop

[Foombamaroom]

Same As It Never Was says "Hi".

SAINW Doesn't count because it's technically an alternate universe and we never saw the death. Now his death is taking in the main story universe of the show.

[neatoman]

Considering that this involves time travel, we all realise that he won't remain dead, right? Honestly, who does not predict that they will (at least try to) save him with forelnowledge of what's going to happen?

[Foombamaroom]

Considering that this involves time travel, we all realise that he won't remain dead, right? Honestly, who does not predict that they will (at least try to) save him with forelnowledge of what's going to happen?

We all know he's not going to remain dead, but the point is that the producers have the balls to do a story-arc that kills off a main character. That's not significant for a regular show, but keep in mind, this is on Nick.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

SAINW Doesn't count because it's technically an alternate universe and we never saw the death. Now his death is taking in the main story universe of the show.

Why does being in an alternate universe not matter? Regardless of not be able to see it take place, it still happened along with seeing his brothers die within the show. Not to mention that we also saw Hamato Yoshi kill Yukio Mashimi in "A Tale of Master Yoshi".

[snake]

Honestly? I hope Splinter stays dead.

[TLP]

I agree with most of your post, but c'mon man, there has been a ton of stories that went nowhere and served no purpose.

How would compare USM's filler episodes to TMNT's? :twink:

[TurFlytle]

Honestly? I hope Splinter stays dead.

At least in Mirage that was after Shredder was defeated.

[Xav]

How would compare USM's filler episodes to TMNT's? :twink:I would say USM's filler episodes were better. At least they featured classic comic book characters and not just made up ones the writers pull out of their ass.

[BubblyShell22]

Why does being in an alternate universe not matter? Regardless of not be able to see it take place, it still happened along with seeing his brothers die within the show. Not to mention that we also saw Hamato Yoshi kill Yukio Mashimi in "A Tale of Master Yoshi".

Because this time we actually see it happening. Yes, the Turtles died in the 2003 show and it was shocking, but it was an alternate universe and it was never addressed after the fact. This time, Splinter is actually seen getting stabbed by the Turtles instead of it actually just being told that he died. Though Leo did stab him in "The Darkness Within" as well. Can't believe no one mentioned that one.

I doubt Splinter will stay dead, but I agree that it would be interesting to see what would happen if the Turtles didn't save him and he remained dead. Then again, there's always fan fiction for that aspect and I just might tackle it after this whole thing plays out.

[evan2000]

Though Leo did stab him in "The Darkness Within" as well. Can't believe no one mentioned that one.

Actually I did :trazz:

Anyway, MAN, this series is getting as dark as the 2003 series would go! The last time Splinter was stabbed was in the 2003 episode "The Darkness Within" right? And even then it wasn't reality, this time it's for real!

[Foombamaroom]

I hope that they take out Shredder before they get Splinter back. I really want to see the Turtles vs. Shredder be the endgame rather than Splinter vs. Shredder.

[victory_angel]

But what if it turns out the Turtles witness Splinters murder, they go back six months to stop the Triceraton's from destroying the Earth with the "Heart of Darkness" only for them to still see Splinter being murdered again a different way.

[Vicky82]

But what if it turns out the Turtles witness Splinters murder, they go back six months to stop the Triceraton's from destroying the Earth with the "Heart of Darkness" only for them to still see Splinter being murdered again a different way.

It's possible, it could happen during this mutants vs humans story.

I'm not an expert on time travel but when the turtles are in space and stop the Triceratons destroying earth, does that mean that due to changing the past, they are returned to a point in time possibly be before 'Dinosaur seen in the Sewer' so they won't remember going into space, Triceratons , Fugitoid, Shredder killing Spliter ect because they changed time to stop earth getting destroyed.

[TurFlytle]

It's possible, it could happen during this mutants vs humans story.

I'm not an expert on time travel but when the turtles are in space and stop the Triceratons destroying earth, does that mean that due to changing the past, they are returned to a point in time possibly be before 'Dinosaur seen in the Sewer' so they won't remember going into space, Triceratons , Fugitoid, Shredder killing Spliter etc because they changed time to stop earth getting destroyed.

Remember, they also met Bishop and was a good guy. So, if he isn't on good terms with the turtles in the current reality, would he revert to his early 2003 series role?