Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep21: "Attack of the MegaShredder!"

[Machias Banshee]

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Okay, so apparently the next natural step of escalation in the turtles vs Shredder battle is for Shredder to seemingly turn into something similar to Pizza the Hut from Spaceballs?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100425080824/starwars/images/5/56/Pizzahutt.jpg

Seriously, what the heck happened here?

Okay, so everyone is still reeling from last week's revelation that they HAD to go back into time to save Yoshi in order for their lives to happen as they did. Essentially vilifying Oroku Saki (or Hamato Saki until he found out the truth?) to the point that Shen rejects him and he starts his "screw the world" campaign in bringing back the Foot Clan. There was so much off-screen head-canon I could go into, I could turn last week's episode into a two hour special...

So after Renet conveniently drops them back off in present time (or so we think?), and somehow the turtles find out that Karai's been captured by Shredder, and he's using brainworms on her. Who knew that Shredder had connections with Botany Bay and the Planet Mongo? (some of you are probably too young to know those references... jeez I'm getting old...)

So, I'm sure we'll have the usual formula: Turtles go in, Shredder defeats and/or captures all but Leo, Leo goes to Splinter, Splinter says 'go save them yourself, you were in charge stupid', Leo goes back and magically defeats Shredder by himself when the four of them together were useless.

With Karai, it depends on the brain worms - if she's still got it when he goes in to save everyone, maybe she'll attack him. Maybe she'll flee. Maybe Leo's magic healing hands will get rid of the brainworm, and he'll cure her so that they can use their super-ninja-bobsie-twin powers to defeat the giant lump of shredder (clone?) flesh.

I'm skeptical that this episode will be anything beyond a space holder while other items are developing. Maybe it's just a test run of soem new toys for the figures line? Who knows...

We've got just a couple days to go, so hang in there and

STAY TUNED!!

[GoldMutant]

And here we go! (once more calling the sneak preview clip on nick.com is the opening, if not the clip after the intro)

[Vicky82]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS MESSED UP, WTF!!!!!!!! :o

[saintsaucey]

What did i miss pre credits

[DarkLightDragon]

Did RockSteady just gore Raph up the butt?

[GoldMutant]

"Surprise Turtle freaks!" -Rocksteady Seriously, why do I feel this references Dexter with that particular line? :lol:

[DarkLightDragon]

So Mega Shredder is just the three Shredder clones mutated into one.

Somehow that should've been easy to guess in retrospect.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Is it me or did the score pay homage to the Godzilla theme when Super Shredder emerged from the sewer?

[Vicky82]

I knew it was Mikey that sneaked up on Leo and I knew that Mega Shredder was the mutant Shredder Clones. I totally called it. :D

[GoldMutant]

^This

Called it on Mikey too. :) Now, Godzilla like proportion battle anyone?

[ObiWanFan4life]

We interrupt this episode to bring you Attack on Titan.

[saintsaucey]

They brought back the turtle mech....yay

[Vicky82]

OMG!!!!!! That was an awesome episode :D I did not expect to see the turtle mech in this.

[Cure]

This was cool. I liked Leonardo going all Attack on Titan on thing.

[lonewarrior20]

i liked it. the only thing that even pissed me off was the sudden commercial interruptions.

[TigerClaw]

Is it me or did the score pay homage to the Godzilla theme when Super Shredder emerged from the sewer?
Yeah, I think it did, Sounded kind of familiar.

[Mew]

Awesome episode!

[TigerClaw]

I thought it was a good episode, The whole Turtle Mech vs the Mega Shredder was kind of like a homage to Pacific Rim, The whole Giant Robot vs Kaiju thing.

[evan2000]

I thought I just watched an Ultraman episode :tlol:

Actually I do miss watching Ultraman episodes :trazz:

[Alph_shinn]

so kind of... weird..this episode
Raph leg is injured :tsad:
and I did not notice the Mega Shredder
Is it double mutanted from three mutant shredder only?

[TurFlytle]

Why in the world was there a normal looking Oroku Saki tongue brain in it's belly mouth?

[DarkLightDragon]

Why in the world was there a normal looking Oroku Saki tongue brain in it's belly mouth?

Just to hammer in how "freaky" and "disturbing" the thing was.

[Technogeek29]

Godzilla References? *Girlish Screams* And Donnie even said Kaiju even better!!! Also another note was the mutated Turtles the Bay Turtles?

[Foombamaroom]

Godzilla References? *Girlish Screams* And Donnie even said Kaiju even better!!! Also another note was the mutated Turtles the Bay Turtles?

I NOTICED THAT, TOO!
Also, I'm so so happy they didn't mutate Shredder.

[Aaronardo]

The Attack on Titan references are real... Mikey is such a badass in this episode... Turtle-Mech is back... Mega-Shredder is NOT mutated Shredder (thank god)...
GREAT episode! :D

[DarkLightDragon]

What I also liked about this episode?

They actually succeeded in what they were trying to get. No bulls*it with losing the brain-worm during the fight or having to give it up to the bad guys at the end. Nothing to delay the 'save Karai' sub-plot. They said they're going to save her, and they're already a few steps closer to getting there.

Though given what's going to happen to Donnie next episode, he might not have that much time to do what they'd say he'll do. Bring on Dumb Donnie!

[Powder]

I thought it was a good episode, The whole Turtle Mech vs the Mega Shredder was kind of like a homage to Pacific Rim, The whole Giant Robot vs Kaiju thing.

No, Pacific Rim was an homage to the same material this episode was an homage to. Kaiju flicks, Ultraman, etc.

Why in the world was there a normal looking Oroku Saki tongue brain in it's belly mouth?

Saki's DNA is the basis for their existence.

Cool episode.

[Ninjinister]

lol everyone was worried over nothing

[Vicky82]

^^^^^^^^^^ This

Anyway IGN review up.

8.2 :ohwell:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/08/16/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-attack-of-the-mega-shredder-review

[TigerClaw]

^^^^^^^^^^ This

Anyway IGN review up.

8.2 :ohwell:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/08/16/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-attack-of-the-mega-shredder-review
They liked everything else except for Leo always going alone.

[yellowmario27]

Loved this episode! Can't wait to rewatch it :D

i liked how it was a Leo/Mikey episode too, maybe we'll get a Donnie/Raph team up eventually. Also enjoyed April and Casey joining in this time around.

Is it ever stated why Master Splinter does not go help find Karai?

when April was taken by the shredder he risked his life to go save her, why doesn't he do the same with his daughter?

[TurFlytle]

Saki's DNA is the basis for their existence.

I know that, but the Shredder clones have mutated DNA of him. It couldn't have a human Shredder tongue if it was mostly human, but what do I know? Rahzar went from a giant mutant Akita to a way smaller and skinnier werewolf skeleton thing. :lol:

[Leofan26]

They liked everything else except for Leo always going alone.

I don't understand the beef of Leo going alone, he's got personal issues with Shredder than any one else does. His connections with Karai for one thing, he's trying to save her as much as possible and Shredder keeps adding situations. Than that beat down he got in the season two final, so I don't get it.

I love that Leo wears his Spirit Quest outfit :D

Leo / Mikey team work.

Though I would have preferred if it was human Shredder they faught against but oh well :roll:

[Cure]

lol everyone was worried over nothing

What was everyone worried about? I missed it.

[GoldMutant]

What was everyone worried about? I missed it.

I'm assuming Shredder being the guy being the mutant blob instead of the Shredder Elite.

[DarkLightDragon]

What was everyone worried about? I missed it.

Probably has something to do with some fearing Mega-Shredder would be the actual Shredder getting mutated as part of an anticlimactic way of the final battle the Turtles would have with him.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

[drgon78]

Good episode, loved the Godzilla reference and the use of the word Kaiju. Also that cartoon Mikey likes is becoming more disturbing with each episode.:lol:

[Cure]

Ah, thanks for the answers, guys.

[VaughnMichael]

I really liked the creatures design and the Saki tongue was nasty.:lol:
But this episode kind of fell flat for me.
It's not that it was bad but it seems like there was more commercial than show with this one. Did anyone else feel that way?
I also kind of felt that while it was progressing the story slightly it lacked compared to the other episodes of this season.
I do love the Rockstedies ;), the cuddle joke with Rahzar, & the end with Tigerclaw.
But poor Fishface is left out again, they really should just demutate the guy and have him go his own way.
Of course at least he got screen time, that's more than we can say for old Baxter.
Speaking of Baxter I do like the helmet thing on Karai since it looked like a Mouser, have we seen that before?
I do like that the turtle robot is back but it seems to be put back together awful quickly just to move the plot along and fight the robot.
Oh yes the spirit quest outfits really need to get used more often as it's a nice change for the guys and they're not too silly like their L.A.R.P. outfits.
Over all I'd give this episode 3 out of 5 pizza slices.:tpizza:

[Majcvd49]

What happened with April and Casey this episode?

[Metalwolf]

I do love the Rockstedies ;), the cuddle joke with Rahzar, & the end with Tigerclaw.
Wow, the idea that Rahzar cuddling with someone. :lol: Was it Xever and was he doing it in his sleep?

[neatoman]

So basically this was just another filler episode that's a monster movie parody? Aside from getting the brain worm, will anything in this episode come back at all?

[yellowmario27]

What happened with April and Casey this episode?

Nothing too major, they were part of the turtle mech with Donnie and Raph

[Vicky82]

So basically this was just another filler episode that's a monster movie parody? Aside from getting the brain worm, will anything in this episode come back at all?

I don't consider this episode a filler because of the mind worms and seeing what Shredder is doing to Karai at the start of the episode.

[BubblyShell22]

Pretty neat episode. Leo and Mikey were awesome in it and I'm glad they brought the Turtle Mech back. I agree that the dumpster thing was the worst invention ever made. Ugh. The monster was freaky, and I see that everyone was worried it was going to be Shredder when it was the Shredder clones. Still, it was freaky how it ate Mikey, but I like how he got out of it. I don't consider this filler since it talked about the brain worms, and I have a feeling that's how Donnie's going to become dumb after trying to reverse engineer it which should be interesting. Overall, a very interesting episode. Bring on the next one.

[ranger_scout]

I really enjoyed today's episode. I always love watching Leo and Mikey working together since they have always been my two favorite turtles. The Mega Shredder was one ugly looking creature. I really do feel like I started watching the show at the right time last year when the casting change for Leonardo happened. It just did not feel right for me to watch a show when the first voice actor for him was causing too much controversy and giving the franchise a bad name. Ever since that problem was taken care of I feel really glad to watching a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series again.

[Vicky82]

Did anyone get a Ghostbusters vibe when Mega Shredder exploded and started raining on people.

[TLP]

That was a pretty gruesome episode. :tlol:

Especially how Mikey cut off the human tongue thing complete with (green) blood.

I'm happy the Shredder wasn't mutated. Curious to know how he will come into play for the rest of the season.

[CyberCubed]

Fun episode, but a lot more filler-y than expected. Nice to see them get the worm at the end, but most of it was just another fight against another big monster mutant.

Still this one had a lot of jokes I liked like the dumpster scene, most of Bebop/Rocksteady's scenes, and some other moments. Good episode.

[alien_ken]

Kind of a geeky thing to notice, but when Mikey is imagening how himself and Leo will look mutated there is a kind of "roar" sound in the background. Is it just me or is that "Battle Cat" from Masters of the universe? :D

[victory_angel]

I liked how devastated Leo was when he witnessed Mikey being eaten alive. And that moment when he was looking at Mikey's grappling hook gun sadly and seeing his brothers name carved into the handle. It just shows how much he cares about his bro's and how they matter in his life.

[Vicky82]

I liked how devastated Leo was when he witnessed Mikey being eaten alive. And that moment when he was looking at Mikey's grappling hook gun sadly and seeing his brothers name carved into the handle. It just shows how much he cares about his bro's.

Yeah, my heart stopped during that :(

I loved it when Mikey came crashing out and killed the brain/tongue part of Mega Shredder, he is such a badass and i'm proud of him. :D

[DarkLightDragon]

Yeah, my heart stopped during that :(

I loved it when Mikey came crashing out and killed the brain/tongue part of Mega Shredder, he is such a badass. :D

I liked how Casey smirked as soon as Mega Shredder's teeth started to break.

He knew Mikey was coming out and would bring some s*it.

[Vicky82]

I was in shock when I saw this.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/3cc94cd33d5109e07f8427da8df0de99/tumblr_nt729lPXpD1ucafo8o4_400.jpg

:o

Shredder is one sick f****r

I bet Karai is going be messed up.

[IndigoErth]

Not bad... what little info I'd heard on it didn't have me expecting it to be anything special, but that was a lot better than I expected.

Someone in that studio is seriously demented. :lol: Good god, the Saki tongue. (Gah, the creepy limbs on the tongue reminded me of that creepy worm thing in that one Spongebob episode - do not want. lol)

I like that it turned out to be Leo and Mikey, not just "Leo goes to Shredder's lair alone..." which was misleading and had me expecting more anti-Leo sentiments... Nice to see those two together on their own, we don't get much of that. And that ended up being a pretty good episode for everyone. Cool that Mikey got the kill and the rest of the gang kicked some ass as well. With Raph taking a touch of leadership in Leo's absence and toughing out his injury. :tthumbsu:

I had a feeling that one image would only turn out to be Mikey sneaking up on Leo not in any bad way. Hah...and sorta guessed on that...thing. Though I thought it would be in relation to those clones, not actually them. I thought those things were gone?? o.O

How the heck did Leo and Mikey manage to not get splashed with mutagen though.

[DarkLightDragon]

Yeah seriously.

Even if last episode made you feel a little empathy for the guy and taking in Miwa was partially out of guilt for killing Shen, him basically violating his "daughter's" mind just she can be his loyal, little soldier again is a deplorable thing to do. And the saddest part of it all is that he feels like he's the right for it. Being so fueled by hatred, combined with the tendency to scapegoat others for things you yourself have done, it's straight-up denial and self-destructive.

And it'll be all the more satisfying when or if he'll be taken down. Or the very least realize how much of an ass he's been, but that's less likely to happen than being defeated for good.

[Tarris Vaal]

Have to agree with IndigoErth here - very pleasantly surprised by that episode. And I was also intrigued how Leo and Mikey avoided getting splashed :)

Also have to say, that that whole episode was really smoothly choreographed - the final fight with Leo and the Turtle mech was a beautifully animated sequence. Really good ep :)

[NinjaPug]

I thought it was a good episode, The whole Turtle Mech vs the Mega Shredder was kind of like a homage to Pacific Rim, The whole Giant Robot vs Kaiju thing.

Yes, this was an homage to a movie that came out two years ago.

[Icebot]

I enjoyed the new episode.

As episode 73 of the Nick cartoon, I noticed this episode has something in common with episode 73 of the 4kids cartoon episode Same As It Never Was. I remember Shredder in SAINW was referred to as Mega Shredder and now there's a Mega Shredder in episode 73 of the Nick cartoon.

Anyone else notice?

[Foombamaroom]

I liked the episode, but was I the only one who was annoyed with Shredder? Rather than face the Turtles, he was just like "More security!"

[OrangeNinja1987]

I wasn't very thrilled with this episode.
That stealth vehicle was a horrible way to start off the episode and that scene was so unbearable that it's one of the few times I've skipped anything on the show. It felt like a shameless toy commercial but would they really make that a toy?
After that, it wasn't too bad. It was an interesting kaiju battle and Leo going ballistic when thinking Mikey was dead did add a touching element to it (but I doubt, even with his skill, that spinning swords in a circle would create a flying helicopter effect).
This episode wasn't necessarily bad, it just wasn't good. And I don't think it was too funny. Too me all the characters felt stiff and their wasn't enough of the story arc going on that I was engaged (I forgot that they were trying to catch a mind control worm after only a few minutes). Like a lot of episodes lately, such as Deadly Venom and Turtles and Time (the latter I enjoyed a lot anyway), there were a lot of elements that didn't make sense.
And this is just a personal complaint which no one else has, but for a while the animation to me has felt pretty strange. I may just be too used to the look of the animation of season 1, which wasn't as good. Especially on the turtles, the animation now seems stiff and odd-looking on occasion, but not during action. Please don't argue if you don't agree, I'm just voicing a small nitpick I don't even really understand.
Though this episode did have some good action and it was good to see the Spirit Quest stuff and that Leo wasn't the only turtle with focus again..
Overall, not my favorite episode, but there wasn't anything, besides the start, that I hated. It was just a little disappointing after award-worthy Tale of Yokai. Who's excited for the next episode? Dumb Donnie, DUN DUN DUN.
6/10

[matteso586]

Apparently, Karai's defeat in The Deadly Venom did more to her than we thought.

[IndigoErth]

So... Did they not really get one of the worms, was it taken away, or did Leo have it in his pocket the whole time? lol Ew. (Not that he usually even has pockets...)

(but I doubt, even with his skill, that spinning swords in a circle would create a flying helicopter effect).
Yeah, that part had me sitting there saying "Wut?" I dunno...am I the only one that thought of the "Flying Heroes" toys? It made me wonder if there was a connection.

[Klunk1234]

Weird episode! Not my favorite, but it has good moments the Leo/Mikey team and the robot that Donnie, April, Raph and Casey were handling. The Mega Shredder , disgusting.

[Donny's computer84]

It was a strange episode compared to the last one, which was a blast. It did have it's good moments though. I thought Donny's stealth vehicle was humorous and I liked the huge mechanical weapon that Donny, Raph, April, and Casey were using. They were continuing Karai's story. :toops:

[Nasubionna]

I really enjoyed this one! I am VERY HAPPY that it wasn’t *actual real Shredder* who got mutated, just parts of his DNA.
This episode started pretty damn dark, with Karai all hooked up to the crazy medical torture stuff (and that very mouser-esque helmet). I'd say you already took it a step to far when you FREAKING BRAINWORMWASHED YOUR OWN ADOPTED DAUGHTER, SHREDHEAD.

It sounds like most people didn't like the stealth-dumpster, but I liked to see a practical, relatively low-tech Donnie invention. The silliness with which they dispatched the Footbot guards reminded me of the old-school toys/cartoon. Mikey apologizing to the Footbot whose head he tripped over is *perfect*. :D

I was recently thinking about how we haven’t seen Steranko use a gun since “Serpent Hunt”, which I thought was odd considering he was an arms dealer and that all the Rocksteady concept art had a lot of details about his bandolier/harness holding various weaponry and all the types of guns he would use, etc. and we never saw any of it. I just assumed that maybe somewhere between concept-art and finished-product someone decided that they wanted Zeck to have the distance-ranged weapons/lasers, and to keep Steranko a physical-fighter only. So I was happy to see that the Rocksteady was rockin’ some firepower again! It also cracked me up when Raph pointed out what terrible aim Ivan has, which seems to be true, but hey, give the guy a break! He’s only got one eye and rhinos are known to have pretty bad eyesight, so he’s at a serious disadvantage here. He should actually probably give up the guns, LOL…. at least he got his revenge by tossing Raph with his horn (that's two times now, by my count).
Incidentally, I freaking love Shredder-Shrimp.

Sooo… April’s the team medic now? Where’s Leo and Splinter with their mystical healing powers? (I am NOT a fan of the mystical healing powers). I’m also one of those who've been REALLY annoyed by “Super-Leo” since he got beat up, he feels like he’s being excessively *perfect* and serious and just… I dunno. I haven’t liked a lot about he’s been handled lately. So go-figure he would try to go on his own, despite them all just getting their asses collectively beat. I was all about to get super annoyed by Leo going rogue, but THANK YOU MIKEY for “straight-up ninja-ing” him. I’m glad Leo conceded. Mikey was freaking adorable in this whole episode. Some of my favorite Mikey acting for awhile. I LOL’d so hard at sleeping Xever and Bradford and Mikey somehow ending up snuggled up under his arm, OMG I was *dying*. Mikey and RadBrad, friends 4 eva! XD

Nice use of Anton’s invisibility powers! As always, I looooved Bebop and Rocksteady. Oh man, every time these two show up, I love them more and more. So far they’ve been riding the line just right between messing up and making stupid decisions (turtle borscht or 5-star mega-mutant), but not just being completely bumbling childlike-idiots of the original cartoon. And poor Tigerclaw, like the harried middle-manager, trying to keep everything from going to complete ****. XD

Ok, the Oroku Saki torso/head on the end of the mega-Shredder’s tongue is pretty messed up. I know they did that way back with the April-Derp, and it was equally disturbing then. Great monster-music during the mega Shredder fight (and reminded me VERY much of the Lungfishopolis level in Psychonauts, which was also parodying the Kaiju genre (obscure reference, if anyone knows what I’m talking about, let’s be best friends)). Nice to see the return of the Turtle-mech, and I’m sure Casey was having a great time getting to be a driver. And Mikey being in mega-Shredder’s stomach made me think of the Monstro level in Kingdom Hearts. I guess gigantic stomaches probably all pretty much look the same inside. :/

“I dunno, press more buttons!!” another moment where we have illustrated why Leonardo - despite whatever quibble I may have with him - is the leader, and Donatello just builds the cool stuff. XD

It’s pretty rare that they show a villain actually die, and they handled it in a pretty humorous way with the creepy Shredder-tongue, although I wanted to puke when Mikey busted through the mega-teeth, OMG I AM NOT OK WITH BROKEN TEETH.

So yeah. I loved the heck outta this episode, and I really wasn’t expecting to. Loved the turtles, loved the baddies, love the genre-nod, just overall a lot of fun. XD

[neatoman]

I really enjoyed this one! I am VERY HAPPY that it wasn’t *actual real Shredder* who got mutated, just parts of his DNA.
This episode started pretty damn dark, with Karai all hooked up to the crazy medical torture stuff (and that very mouser-esque helmet). I'd say you already took it a step to far when you FREAKING BRAINWORMWASHED YOUR OWN ADOPTED DAUGHTER, SHREDHEAD.

It sounds like most people didn't like the stealth-dumpster, but I liked to see a practical, relatively low-tech Donnie invention. The silliness with which they dispatched the Footbot guards reminded me of the old-school toys/cartoon. Mikey apologizing to the Footbot whose head he tripped over is *perfect*. :D

I was recently thinking about how we haven’t seen Steranko use a gun since “Serpent Hunt”, which I thought was odd considering he was an arms dealer and that all the Rocksteady concept art had a lot of details about his bandolier/harness holding various weaponry and all the types of guns he would use, etc. and we never saw any of it. I just assumed that maybe somewhere between concept-art and finished-product someone decided that they wanted Zeck to have the distance-ranged weapons/lasers, and to keep Steranko a physical-fighter only. So I was happy to see that the Rocksteady was rockin’ some firepower again! It also cracked me up when Raph pointed out what terrible aim Ivan has, which seems to be true, but hey, give the guy a break! He’s only got one eye and rhinos are known to have pretty bad eyesight, so he’s at a serious disadvantage here. He should actually probably give up the guns, LOL…. at least he got his revenge by tossing Raph with his horn (that's two times now, by my count).
Incidentally, I freaking love Shredder-Shrimp.

Sooo… April’s the team medic now? Where’s Leo and Splinter with their mystical healing powers? (I am NOT a fan of the mystical healing powers). I’m also one of those who've been REALLY annoyed by “Super-Leo” since he got beat up, he feels like he’s being excessively *perfect* and serious and just… I dunno. I haven’t liked a lot about he’s been handled lately. So go-figure he would try to go on his own, despite them all just getting their asses collectively beat. I was all about to get super annoyed by Leo going rogue, but THANK YOU MIKEY for “straight-up ninja-ing” him. I’m glad Leo conceded. Mikey was freaking adorable in this whole episode. Some of my favorite Mikey acting for awhile. I LOL’d so hard at sleeping Xever and Bradford and Mikey somehow ending up snuggled up under his arm, OMG I was *dying*. Mikey and RadBrad, friends 4 eva! XD

Nice use of Anton’s invisibility powers! As always, I looooved Bebop and Rocksteady. Oh man, every time these two show up, I love them more and more. So far they’ve been riding the line just right between messing up and making stupid decisions (turtle borscht or 5-star mega-mutant), but not just being completely bumbling childlike-idiots of the original cartoon. And poor Tigerclaw, like the harried middle-manager, trying to keep everything from going to complete ****. XD

Ok, the Oroku Saki torso/head on the end of the mega-Shredder’s tongue is pretty messed up. I know they did that way back with the April-Derp, and it was equally disturbing then. Great monster-music during the mega Shredder fight (and reminded me VERY much of the Lungfishopolis level in Psychonauts, which was also parodying the Kaiju genre (obscure reference, if anyone knows what I’m talking about, let’s be best friends)). Nice to see the return of the Turtle-mech, and I’m sure Casey was having a great time getting to be a driver. And Mikey being in mega-Shredder’s stomach made me think of the Monstro level in Kingdom Hearts. I guess gigantic stomaches probably all pretty much look the same inside. :/

“I dunno, press more buttons!!” another moment where we have illustrated why Leonardo - despite whatever quibble I may have with him - is the leader, and Donatello just builds the cool stuff. XD

It’s pretty rare that they show a villain actually die, and they handled it in a pretty humorous way with the creepy Shredder-tongue, although I wanted to puke when Mikey busted through the mega-teeth, OMG I AM NOT OK WITH BROKEN TEETH.

So yeah. I loved the heck outta this episode, and I really wasn’t expecting to. Loved the turtles, loved the baddies, love the genre-nod, just overall a lot of fun. XD

Oh yeah, I forgot about the healing powers but now when you bring it up, yeah where were they this time?

It's good that Bebop and Rocksteady aren't childish but being tricked into creating the Mega Shredder was still absurdly stupid, not just "riding the line of messing up and making stupid decisions". Even they should have known throwing three monsters into the mutagen bowl was a stupid idea.

[Kanon]

Just want to say one thing:

I so want to work for nickelodeon! :D

I can imagine how funny it must be to sit in a big meeting room and smoking some not legal things while thinking about the design of those monsters, especially in the third season! :lol:


Note:
I really like the third season so far (no complains about the story!), but the designs are (in my opinion) sometimes horrible.

[shredder orokusaki]

See all of you weho thought that i will be mutated and defeated what you have to say now? Do you realy thought i would be mutated into such a freak?!

[Powder]

See all of you weho thought that i will be mutated and defeated what you have to say now? Do you realy thought i would be mutated into such a freak?!

You couldn't be any more of a freak than you already are. :tlol:

[neatoman]

See all of you weho thought that i will be mutated and defeated what you have to say now? Do you realy thought i would be mutated into such a freak?!

Geez, this is really badly written! Some tips for you, "who" does not contain an E, the word "I" is always upper case, you used will when you should have used "would", there should have been a comma after "defeated", "really" is spelled with two L and you used "do" when you should have used "did". I'm not a native english speaker and even I think all of these errors are unacceptable, especially for such a short message.

[Vicky82]

I expect they couldn't use the healing spell because Raphs injury is minor and would heal in a day or 2, so they would only use it for serious injuries. I expect Splinter using the healing spells probably drains him physically, mentally ect.

[IndigoErth]

You couldn't be any more of a freak than you already are. :tlol:
Ohh burrrrn.
Again.

http://i.imgur.com/HOUbDG1.gif

:tlol:

[JH24]

I was pleasantly surprised with this episode. Much better than I expected and I'm really glad it wasn't the real Shredder who got mutated. Seems he'll be staying around for awhile. IMHO this series wouldn't feel the same without him.

Rocksteady and Bebop's antics reminded me a lot of the OT series. I liked it.

The fight was interesting with some great scenes. Glad to see Casey again as well and him actually being part of the team with the turtle mech. Donatello still doesn't seem too thrilled with Casey around but he definitely trusts him.

It was nice seeing Leo and Mikey team up. And I really liked seeing Leonardo in that outfit again. It fits him very well.

Also liked the moment when Mikey was about to break through the monster's teeth, and a quick shot from Casey realizing what's up. I found that a nice touch.


Overall, I definitely enjoyed this episode.

[Enscripture]

Well, like usual. They recycled everything to make a "new" episode. Can't waste the human Saki assets go to waste or the stupid shredder clones or those dumb outfits they wore for one stupid episode and Grody to the max! But, I liked this one. It was fun. Still. Seriously. You can only recycle so much before it gets stupid repetitive.

[Vicky82]

Well, like usual. They recycled everything to make a "new" episode. Can't waste the human Saki assets go to waste or the stupid shredder clones or those dumb outfits they wore for one stupid episode and Grody to the max! But, I liked this one. It was fun. Still. Seriously. You can only recycle so much before it gets stupid repetitive.

They recycle things in all cartooons to save money, so it's not surprising and anyway it was awesome seeing Leo in his spirit gear, I was hoping to see Mikey wearing it too but sadly not.

[Btown]

well this wasn't the worst episode of the season to me, but it wasn't great either. I really didn't like the design for this "mega shredder" but I too am glad it wasn't the real shredder. That might have really turned me off from this episode. I like the Mikey/Leo team up, especially how mikey totally "ninja'd" Leo lol.

[Shedder]

Did the giant Shredder not remind anyone else of bellybomb from the old Adventures comics?
And WTF is mikey watching on TV. Using a horse to give a rectal exam?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Finally got the episode to play on anime flavor, and oh, man that was crazy! That Crognard episode, that was just.... WTF was Mikey just watching?! Like Raph, I'm not a big fan of the dumpster stealth vehicle. (Donnie, you could at LEAST have made it move faster!) The monster at the end was really gross, and the Godzilla spikes on its back were a nice touch. LOVED Sterenko's little Abbott and Costello reference (did anyone else catch that?), and that Saki tongue- eewww! Casey joining the team was cool, and I LOVED Mikey out-ninja-ing Leo. Great that they even got the brain worm, but um, Leo- where the HECK are you KEEPING that thing??!!

[evan2000]

Leo- where the SHELL are you KEEPING that thing??!!

Fixed it for you :trazz:

Well, got it? Nvm :tlol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

LOL, probably right. So am I the only one who caught the Abbott & Costello ref? I thought it was very apropos, considering the duo in question.

[neatoman]

So about the dumpster, how was that thing stealthy again?

[Zak The Neutrino]

I really enjoyed this episode. I liked the Mikey/Leo team up and how Leo reacted when Mikey got ate. Loved the attack on titan like fighting going on between MegaShredder and Leo.

The turtle mech is meh to me but it was nice to see Ralph sort of take lead and Casey and April to join in on that.

I watched it last night with my youngest son and he thought the whole dumpster thing was hilarious. Maybe that was the angle they were taking? It was potty humor mixed in there on that one.

[IndigoErth]

So about the dumpster, how was that thing stealthy again?
I guess it's stealthy in the sense that it moves too darn slow to be noticed that it's moving - unless you have the odd habit of staring at dumpsters.

Creative and kind of little amusing, though it seemed a bit unnecessary and took up a little too much time in the episode.

Little disappointing though that the head that pops up in the toilet wasn't used when the bum was sitting on it. lol

Great that they even got the brain worm, but um, Leo- where the HECK are you KEEPING that thing??!!
Yeeeah, I was really hoping he had a little pouch or something on his belt I didn't notice, and preferably a jar or something to put the creepy thing in.

Do they even have it though? :ohwell: Leo and Mikey got caught rather easily. Hope it wasn't confiscated.

[yellowmario27]

Do they even have it though? :ohwell: Leo and Mikey got caught rather easily. Hope it wasn't confiscated.

I think Leo's last line to Mikey confirms that they did get the worm. I forgot what he said exactly tho :ohwell:

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Fun Episode. It felt very similar to a Fred Wolf Episode, with things like a giant mutant monster, and Bebop and Rocksteady being stupid and easly tricked.

[TurFlytle]

Fun Episode. It felt very similar to a Fred Wolf Episode, with things like a giant mutant monster, and Bebop and Rocksteady being stupid and easly tricked.

Even the title sounds similar to something that Fred Wolf would do.

[GoldMutant]

You know, since they had a Godzilla reference here in the episode with the music, heck somewhat with the fight, they just needed one more thing. The EPF!!! :)

Seriously, that would have been awesome to see them return again, even if a cameo and getting destroyed.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I guess it's stealthy in the sense that it moves too darn slow to be noticed that it's moving - unless you have the odd habit of staring at dumpsters.

Little disappointing though that the head that pops up in the toilet wasn't used when the bum was sitting on it. lol


Yeah, I thought so too, lol!

[The Turtle Terminator]

Watched the episode today. I thought it was meh. A 7/10. Too much fan build up.

[Ursalink]

Seeing what Shredder did to Karai, and even so he has the guts to call her "daughter" and blame Splinter and the turtles. I really want him to suffer in next season!!!

[drag0nfeathers]

Although I enjoyed the episode and a girlish squeal did escape me when Leo went all Levi from Attack on Titan and spun around like a whirlwind of swords while using the grappling hooks as makeshift maneuvering gear... didn't the 3 mutant shredders get chopped up into little bits by Splinter when he went all crazy eyes to save his sons back when they introduced Baxter's underground laboratory by throwing them into a huge ventilator fan? I distinctly remember feeling "Oh damn, Splinter straight up mince-meated those guys!"

[IndigoErth]

didn't the 3 mutant shredders get chopped up into little bits by Splinter when he went all crazy eyes to save his sons back when they introduced Baxter's underground laboratory by throwing them into a huge ventilator fan? I distinctly remember feeling "Oh damn, Splinter straight up mince-meated those guys!"
I thought so too. They had really given the impression that those things were destroyed.

[Spirael]

I found this episode quite fun - there were absolutely tons of references to all kinds of things! Particularly liked Raph's line from Empire Strikes Back at the beginning. XD

It was good to see the team split as Leo & Mikey then Raph & Donnie, which is a rare configuration. Leo after he thought Mikey was gone was really endearing, and I loved the second two freaking out as they were fleeing Mega Shredder!

There were a lot of cute expressions in this episode. :3 Donnie squeeing at the beginning about his new invention was adorable, even if it was the worst invention ever. ;) Was it just me that loved Raph's apology face? Then he had tears when he tried to walk on his ankle! :O Not expressions I expect from him-! But very cute all the same.

[Ashwolf]

Was rewatching it and the part where mega shredder exploded and the goop was raining down might've been a reference 2 evolution as well

[BubblyShell22]

Didn't catch the Abbott and Costello reference with Bebop and Rocksteady. I did like how Leo was using his swords while swinging on the grappling hook.

[THGhost]

Awesome episode!


Nice to see Karai and Crognard again, if only briefly.
Donnie's invention is definitely a shameless toyline plug. :P
What's with all the references to excrement in this episode?
Did they really have to go through all of that just to take out a few Foot-Bots?
The Turtles vs Bebop, Rocksteady and Tiger Claw fight was great stuff!
Did Bebop seriously make an N-word joke? In this case the word being "ninja"?
As usual, Mikey gets them out of a jam. ;)
April, Casey and Splinter are back at last. It feels so long since we last saw them properly.
Why would Leo let Mikey come with him? He just wouldn't xD
Why didn't the Turtles come in through the skylight in the first place? Would have saved them a lot of time/effort.
Finally, a new mutant that was Leo's fault. :lol:
Oh well, the 3 mutated Shredders were nice while they lasted.
I was hoping for something that actually resembled Shredder. :P
Attack on Turtle! :lol:
Turtle Mech! :D
What are the odds that Mikey missed Mega Shredder's digestive juices by only a few feet? :P
They should use those comic book-esque speech bubbles that Raph and Donnie had more often.
Mikey saves the day! :D
Wouldn't Mega Shredder be filled with Mutagen? Now it's raining down on innocent civilians...


Can't wait for the next one. :tcool:

LOL, probably right. So am I the only one who caught the Abbott & Costello ref? I thought it was very apropos, considering the duo in question.

Missed it. What was it?

[kelligrafie]

Enjoyed this episode more than the last two weirdly enough although maybe I just wasn't in the right mood when I watched them to enjoy them fully. I feel like maybe I lost the childish joy I usually get when I watch the show, because the hiatus went on for so long (that's not a whine by the way - just a basic statement) and it came back when the turtle mech showed up.

I didn't particularly like how the mega Shredder looked in general but the Oroku tongue was funny.

And Tiger Claw was just the best. As usual.

Is it just me or is the facial animation on the turtles and other main characters getting slicker?

And a Laurel and Hardy reference. Possibly. IZ NUTHER FINE MESS YOU OGTTEN US INTO.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Missed it. What was it?


When Rocksteady said, "That's another fine mess you've gotten us into."


And a Laurel and Hardy reference. Possibly. IZ NUTHER FINE MESS YOU OGTTEN US INTO.


Whoops. You're right. I was thinking Abbott and Costello on that- I always get them mixed up. Still fits, though, LOL! Now I'm just waiting for them to do Bing and Bob with a "patty-cake" line!

[Werecat]

Is it just me or is the facial animation on the turtles and other main characters getting slicker?


I noticed it too, since it seems to be quite noticeable now. The animations are smoother and stylish. I love the animations, Nick does such a good job on this show. I just wish they would have more Raph centered plots that showcase his strength.

[victory_angel]

Whoops. You're right. I was thinking Abbott and Costello on that- I always get them mixed up. Still fits, though, LOL! Now I'm just waiting for them to do Bing and Bob with a "patty-cake" line!

Or maybe a turtles version of whose on first. Which was sort of done with the 2k3 series.

[drag0nfeathers]

I caught the Star wars reference with Raph too ^_^

Also... I have to say... I WAS afraid when I saw that putrid rain coming down on the city for a moment. I was like "NOOOO! Mutagen rain! It's gonna mutate everyone in the city!" Thinking that now the whole city is gonna be full of Kraangy- mutants again and Donnie is going to have to spend forever trying to "fix" everyone!

Thank goodness they didn't go that route. I dug the crazy shredder tounge and his super Tyranid sickle claws. When Raph burned his face up I giggled a bit. Shredder always gets his face caught on fire one way or another apparently.

Also... I found Mikey to be extra adorable when he was impressed with the new "stealth" vehicle's flushing action.... though... with how that thing moved... how the shell did they get it above ground? ... and... just to make it to the front entrance anyway...? How was that stealthy... like at all.

Whatever... I guess it didn't annoy me enough to dislike the episode, but the assumption is probably correct that it's just a toy plug.

[Bry]

Well, thanks for the new avatar, show. :tlol: Mikey's horror at the idea of becoming a BayTurtles-style monstrosity was one of my favourite gags yet.

It was a fun episode, and I can appreciate things getting really weird and fun after the more serious and emotional episode last week. It's good to have a balance.

They're really working overtime to make this version of the Shredder the most hate-worthy one yet (and that might even include the 2003 version who was a Frieza-level mass murderer and galactic conqueror). His psychotic delusions are... kind of oddly compelling and enraging.

Though it's another one of those episodes that has Splinter totally sit out the action for... no real reason at all. If he's allowing his injured son to go up and fight, what reason does he have to stay at home? I get that the show can't have Splinter fighting their battles for them all the time and it has to keep him somewhat sidelined to let them have the focus, but this situation definitely felt like an exceptional circumstance.

[snake]

I agree with Bry, why the f*ck did Splinter stay home again?

And the turtles fighting in daylight pretty much gave their existance out to the public.

[IndigoErth]

Well, thanks for the new avatar, show. :tlol: Mikey's horror at the idea of becoming a BayTurtles-style monstrosity was one of my favourite gags yet.
With lack of sleep that morning I didn't get a good enough look at that, but your avatar... holy mutant on a stick... :lol::tlol:
*mind immediately falls into the gutter* It's like something out of MAD magazine or similar. lol


And agree with you guys on Splinter, likewise struck me as weird.

What, were his stories on? Is it like, "Oh, thank god, a monster attacking the city, now I'll have the tv to myself for the afternoon. Run along, kids... And try not to get eaten."

[MsMarvelDuckie]

LOL, I know, right? I keep wondering why he never actually goes out WITH them to see just do they are doing, if nothing else. I mean I know he wants them to be self-sufficient, but WTF?! The whole city's in danger, and he just sits at home?!

[KrN]

I'm pretty much done with the way Splinter handles things. I don't know about any of you, but if I knew that my daughter was with my greatest enemy that has some serious issues, I would be going out of my mind trying to get her back.

Last season, it seemed like he was going to change with 'Vengeance is Mine'. When he found out that Karai escaped to take down Shredder, for once, he went with his sons. I was so hoping this was a change for him and thought so again in the finale when he went back to the surface.

Has all that "development" been cancelled out? This 'sit at home and wait for my sons to get back so I can wallow in grief over how pathetic my life is' is just ridiculous.

The main thing that pissed me off was Splinter outright telling the turtles that he 'appreciates' their efforts of retrieving Karai. A, they're not just doing it for him. Raph and Donnie most likely are but Leo and I believe Mikey genuinely care about Karai's wellbeing. B, maybe their efforts would work if he went with them. :trolleye:

^ Splinter hate segment is over.

[Technogeek29]

I'm pretty much done with the way Splinter handles things. I don't know about any of you, but if I knew that my daughter was with my greatest enemy that has some serious issues, I would be going out of my mind trying to get her back.

Last season, it seemed like he was going to change with 'Vengeance is Mine'. When he found out that Karai escaped to take down Shredder, for once, he went with his sons. I was so hoping this was a change for him and thought so again in the finale when he went back to the surface.

Has all that "development" been cancelled out? This 'sit at home and wait for my sons to get back so I can wallow in grief over how pathetic my life is' is just ridiculous.

The main thing that pissed me off was Splinter outright telling the turtles that he 'appreciates' their efforts of retrieving Karai. A, they're not just doing it for him. Raph and Donnie most likely are but Leo and I believe Mikey genuinely care about Karai's wellbeing. B, maybe their efforts would work if he went with them. :trolleye:

^ Splinter hate segment is over.

It's the "Hero's story syndrome" you can't have side characters even if they are stronger than the main character defeat the main villain. Why do you think Destucto Disk never lands? What do you need Goku for if Krillin could one shot everyone with that?

Every version but this one gets around that by making Splinter too old to be involved so heavily in the Turtles adventures or going the OT route and he only truly gets involved when it involves Shredder and Krang (albeit not everytime) I agree it looks dumb for how they establish the Nick Splinter is probably on in his mid to late 30's and yet he bench warms nearly every episode. But what are you going to do?

[ssjup81]

Could be an issue with the actual voice actor.

That aside, maybe Splinter is still paranoid or whatever after what he went through when facing Shredder before and then he went feral. I still find that creepier than anything in those horror eps.

Anyway, I'll give my opinion on this ep when I get home and rewatch it. I saw it Monday (late night Sunday US time). I should do the same for the Yokai ep...but with that ep my feelings were extremely mixed, which is why I didn't post anything about it. Can't fully figure out what bothered me. This ep I liked fine.

[kelligrafie]

Could be an issue with the actual voice actor

I reckon that's possibly why April and Casey took a back seat, because Josh and Mae have had other recording and filming commitments.

But we also know that the production team keep an eye on what fans are saying about the show and quite a few people had voiced that they would like to see a bit more brother centric action, less input from the 'sidekicks' and April's powers conveniently saving the day. So really, it makes sense to also have less Splinter because with him being there, everything would be so much easier for the turtles to defeat the villains.

I appreciate it doesn't make sense when the entire world (or at least New York City) is in dire peril, but his character is essentially there for guidance, he's not one of the soldiers. How are they supposed to develop as fighters, as a team, and in Leo's case as a leader, if Splinter's there giving them instructions?

The show isn't about him, it's about the turtles.

We're not watching Middle Aged Mutant Ninja Rat.

Plus we could always argue that currently he's still supposed to be recovering from when Slash went mental on him.

[THGhost]

I noticed it too, since it seems to be quite noticeable now. The animations are smoother and stylish.

I've been saying this for a while now. The animation is getting better and better all the time. :D

I agree with Bry, why the f*ck did Splinter stay home again?

And the turtles fighting in daylight pretty much gave their existance out to the public.

And not one police officer came to investigate the Mega Shredder. Not one. :lol:

[Bry]

It's the "Hero's story syndrome" you can't have side characters even if they are stronger than the main character defeat the main villain.

I appreciate it doesn't make sense when the entire world (or at least New York City) is in dire peril, but his character is essentially there for guidance, he's not one of the soldiers. How are they supposed to develop as fighters, as a team, and in Leo's case as a leader, if Splinter's there giving them instructions?

The show isn't about him, it's about the turtles.

We're not watching Middle Aged Mutant Ninja Rat.

In practice, this is absolutely it. And I get that. I don't expect or want Splinter to be involved in every story, struggle or battle. But my issue is that the show doesn't really give a reason for him abstaining from helping out in a lot of these situations.

In the '87 show, my read on it was that he was 100% their sensei (rather than their father) and stayed out of their missions so they could learn and gain skills and independence. In the 2003 show, they usually snuck out against his wishes or got caught up in situations without his awareness. That also happens in this show, but fairly often it's written as Splinter begrudgingly letting them leave because the situation is too serious to ignore. And in those cases... I think we kind of need a better reason for him to stay home. If there's a Shredder Kaiju stomping around the city and Michelangelo almost died, that's when Splinter should be getting involved himself -- not sending his injured son into battle and chilling out at home.

All in all, I think the 2003 series handled that best. They gave reasons (or at least the plots gave a plausible reason, or left him out entirely so the question wouldn't arise) for his absences, but when things got really serious he'd step in and/or fight alongside them.

[DarkLightDragon]

^I agree.

I don't think anyone here is asking for Splinter to be more proactive during the Turtle's missions, but just find it odd how he doesn't seem to go out of his way in rescuing his own daughter when he already should be fully aware of what Shredder's been doing to her. Has he given up on her? Does he feel she's not worth the trouble anymore as long as his sons come back home safely? I dunno, I don't think we're ever given insight on why he doesn't do jacks*it aside from his slight self-consciousness of going to the surface in his present rat-from. But it does come off as strange with the Karai-Miwa situation after how we've been shown how important she is to him and especially when he's been moping since her mutation.

[kelligrafie]

Or maybe people are less willing to accept Splinter staying at home this series because previously he was a gnarled up old guy and people were like, oh he's old, he needs to sit at home with a Bovril and watch his soaps as if he was completely incapable or useless on missions. Which he wasn't. How many times did he come to their aid in previous cartoons? :lol:



I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but I was just watching Return To New York and unless Baxter recreated the three crustacean Shredders, this episode shouldn't have happened.

After Splinter regains his mind and stops being crazy dad rat, he beats the shizzle out of the three mutants and tosses them down the hole underneath the vat of mutagen in Baxter's animal lab. Which has a gigantic fan under it that surely chopped the shrimps to bits?

[Werecat]

It's the "Hero's story syndrome" you can't have side characters even if they are stronger than the main character defeat the main villain. Why do you think Destucto Disk never lands? What do you need Goku for if Krillin could one shot everyone with that?

Every version but this one gets around that by making Splinter too old to be involved so heavily in the Turtles adventures or going the OT route and he only truly gets involved when it involves Shredder and Krang (albeit not everytime) I agree it looks dumb for how they establish the Nick Splinter is probably on in his mid to late 30's and yet he bench warms nearly every episode. But what are you going to do?

Your "hero story syndrome" example of DBZ had Gohan kill Cell. Usually most writers give reasons as to why we aren't following side characters, simply don't give them the power to defeat powerful enemies. Splinter's original reason, I think, was that he was too old to fight. Now that Splinter is all healthy and strong, Nick kinda ruined the subliminal reason as to why we are not following Splinter's story instead since he is the strongest.

[Bry]

Or maybe people are less willing to accept Splinter staying at home this series because previously he was a gnarled up old guy and people were like, oh he's old, he needs to sit at home with a Bovril and watch his soaps as if he was completely incapable or useless on missions. Which he wasn't. How many times did he come to their aid in previous cartoons? :lol:

Fairly often in the 2003 series, anyway -- off the top of my head, he stepped in or fought with the Turtles during "The Shredder Strikes", "The Shredder Strikes Back", "Return to New York", "Secret Origins", "City at War", "Rogue in the House", "Exodus", throughout the Ninja Tribunal/Tengu Shredder arc in season 5, and in the final battle in Turtles Forever. Pretty much any time there was a "serious" Shredder threat, he was fighting with his sons. (And I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch of one-off episodes, too.)

And if anything he was the oldest in that show, considering the grey fur.

[Technogeek29]

Your "hero story syndrome" example of DBZ had Gohan kill Cell. Usually most writers give reasons as to why we aren't following side characters, simply don't give them the power to defeat powerful enemies. Splinter's original reason, I think, was that he was too old to fight. Now that Splinter is all healthy and strong, Nick kinda ruined the subliminal reason as to why we are not following Splinter's story instead since he is the strongest.


Of course but Gohan is the main character of DBZ and it's hinted throughout the series he is suppose to take the torch eventually (Until the Buu saga says screw that)

[BabyTurtles]

Why not...just injure Splinter so he has an excuse to stay home?

....and so that cane can actually be used for it's true purpose. (we all know he doesn't need it now)

[IndigoErth]

It's the "Hero's story syndrome" you can't have side characters even if they are stronger than the main character defeat the main villain.
*cough* Yeah, April... take a hint. (Not that she's defeating Shredder, but the main villains of some individual episodes however...)

Would be nice to see Splinter join in a little more when it makes sense to do so. If he's sure they can handle something on their own, fine, but come on... some things could clearly use a hand and some should be personal enough to. (Besides, you raised them to fight what essentially started as your battle, get your ratty arse out there.)


....and so that cane can actually be used for it's true purpose. (we all know he doesn't need it now)
It's just to threaten his kids with. >.< Considering the way he's occasionally knocked them across the room in the past. Maybe not with that cane specifically (I think?), but yeah...

[Werecat]

Of course but Gohan is the main character of DBZ and it's hinted throughout the series he is suppose to take the torch eventually (Until the Buu saga says screw that)
I guess so, I liked that series. Too bad they screwed up Gohan later on though. Gohan was really badass during Cell. I really wish there were more main heroes that got beat up and still fought and won. Instead of the whole get beaten and have a Mary Sue save the day. What happened to challenge and grit!

I wanna see The Black Knight determination in TMNT! gosh darn it.

Someone else made a good point though. What about April and Splinter, they make those characters too strong...I see very little reasons as to why we are not following their story instead of the turtles. Since ya know the writers dont give a damn about writing for turtles. Its all about April and the rat and those other guys. lol

[ssjup81]

Ok, I'm finally ready to give my opinion on this episode. Overall, I genuinely liked it.

You know, I think this may be one of the best Shredders I've come across. His character feels complex, and the beginning of this episode just shows how detached he truly is. The fact he's justifying what he's doing to Karai shows that.

The stealth dumpster gag...thought it was hilarious, but attribute that to my always being a sucker for ironic humor. Still wonder how they got that thing to the surface, unless they used the Shellraiser to pull it up there. It's interesting how most of you guys jumped to its being a toy plug. Didn't even come to mind, but I guess my having no interest in toys could be the reason why it didn't.

I really enjoyed Bebop and Rocksteady in this episode, but still hate the fact that the others have been shoved aside, especially Fishface. I still also hate the fact that we have no real story regarding Tigerclaw. Why does he follow Shredder? He knows the dude is out of his head and shortsighted. Even though Tigerclaw is genuinely awesome, I find the other "henchmutants" more interesting (minus Baxter because he doesn't seem to want freedom anymore) they have reasons for following Shredder, whether it's fear (Baxter), force (Bebop, Rocksteady), loyalty (Bradford, as he was trained by Shredder), or obligation (Xever). Why is Tigerclaw so loyal to Shredder? I really wish the show would go back to that or just explain it in general. I also hate the fact Tigerclaw seems overpowered.

Oh yeah, and speaking of Shredder, I know the writers are biding their time regarding him, but why do they need to up the security when they have a walking cheese grater? Shredder can fight all of them without any issue at all. What is he doing?

I liked how Mikey Ninja'd Leo. He pays attention after all. Either Mikey's improving or Leo's slipping. lol. I'll go with the former. lol

Leo going off on his own made sense. IMO, I truly feel that Leo feels that everything dealing with Karai is his fault and views his missions concerning her, his responsibility. Just comes across that way to me.

Mega Shredder...what a mega mess. lol. That Saki tongue was so creepy! You can tell they went into imagination overdrive with that abomination. I will also assume that Baxter had other lobster/shrimp Saki clones someplace because those other ones were sliced up. You heard it and the camera panned away.

When they were sneaking in, I found the part when Rahzar was holding Mikey like a stuffed toy so adorable. I also liked his reaction when Bebop and Rocksteady were threatening to drop them into the mutagen.

When Mikey was eaten, I was surprised, but Leo's reaction was great. Like how he went off on it and was using the grapplers and his swords. It almost reminded me of how he tried to fight Shredder in the Invasion right before the other three beat him up. Same feeling to me.

Like how Donnie and the others showed up in the mech and were running away. I thought it was funny how Donnie seemed to not fully know how his own mech worked. "Just push more buttons!" lol Liked Raph's, "How do you stop this crazy thing" line. lol

When Mikey killed the brain...nah. Never mind. Just thought it was cool. lol

I liked the fact that Casey and April took a backseat. I just couldn't see them fighting that thing. I know people keep complaining about April's powers, but people still seem to ignore the fact that they're used when she's stressed (emotions are high) and usually it's against something that's usually connected to the Kraang. Also, she never seemed to have any control over it.

Since I did rewatch the ep, I'm starting to wonder if Splinter is starting to revert back to how he was when the series started...fearing what could happen if they go to the surface. It was odd that he was so against them fighting and didn't offer to help, unless he's given up hope on Karai. For the OT, they had many episodes where Splinter wasn't even there or mentioned. They should just have him give a reason or just not have him in the ep...say he's meditating, on a sabbatical, still injured partially...anything. I still feel it's a voice actor issue, though. Isn't his voice actor busy with other projects?

Raph injuring his leg was...interesting. I just have this feeling it's leading up to something. Raph keeps getting injured or incapacitated. It's just strange to me. I know they needed at least one them messed up so they'd have an excuse to use the Turtle Mech...I dunno. I can't use the voice actor excuse because Raph had a decent amount of lines (all great as always). Raph was still great this ep, you know since character is fun...but...yeah...

So those are my overall thoughts. Really liked it and looking forward to finding out what Donnie finds out from the worm they managed to get.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Has anyone noticed that since "Meet Mondo Gecko", Mikey has said Cowabunga at least 3 times? The second was "Turtles in Time" and third in this episode.

This episode was pretty cool. Not amazing but the blob looked pretty gnarly.

[TigerClaw]

Mikey Moments from Attack of the Mega Shredder

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[victory_angel]

^I agree.

I don't think anyone here is asking for Splinter to be more proactive during the Turtle's missions, but just find it odd how he doesn't seem to go out of his way in rescuing his own daughter when he already should be fully aware of what Shredder's been doing to her. Has he given up on her? Does he feel she's not worth the trouble anymore as long as his sons come back home safely? I dunno, I don't think we're ever given insight on why he doesn't do jacks*it aside from his slight self-consciousness of going to the surface in his present rat-from. But it does come off as strange with the Karai-Miwa situation after how we've been shown how important she is to him and especially when he's been moping since her mutation.

I never got this impression. I mean he wants Karai back, but at the same time. His son's also matter to him a big deal. And on top of that, while Splinter does know Karai is Miwa...she is still a stranger to him. He only knew her the few months she had been a baby. He never truly got to know her as his child or see her grow up into the woman she is now.

Those are all experiences he had with the Turtles so his action of pointing out that whenever they try to help Karai they always come back injured. He is essentially saying "I appreciate the fact you want to return my daughter to me. But it's not worth it if one or all of you is lost because of it."

[aliena]

I am loving me some Mikey. He just ate it up in this episode. He's hot when he does that. I thought this episode was okay. At least they got the worm. I was glad that Mikey got to work with Leo this time.

One thing that caught my attention was at one point after Mikey was eaten, Leo looks down at his sword in his hand, was his hand shaking? I couldn't tell why we were meant to see that. All I could think was that Mikey's "demise" had him falling apart. I'm not talking about when he looks down at Mikey's gun and sees his name, I'm thinking about another part later on.

Can't wait to see what happens with Donnie next week.

[Bauer536]

Saw the episode. It was good, not great, but still fun nonetheless.

Things I liked:

The whole fight with the Mega Shredder. Leo was awesome, but I especially (like everybody) LOVED his reaction when Mikey was eaten. He doesn't cry, but he's so upset. He thinks his brother is dead. The hand shaking just showed that pain. It was well done.

The Turtle Mech is back! It was great to see them use it again, but this time with Casey Jones participating. I'm still waiting for Leo and Splinter to be the next ones to use it.

The Dumpster has potential. It is Donnie's weirdest invention, but it's not the worst. All it needs is a little more speed power. Maybe another Kraang power cell? Otherwise, its other features worked.

Things that boggle my mind:

At first, when I was reading about the episode, I was worried about how things would turn out. I'm glad it all worked out. However, it seemed to be luck. There's one thing that's bothering me about this. If the other turtles didn't show up with the Turtle Mech, how would this go down? Would both Leo and Mike escape from the Mega Shredder?

Maybe this has to do with us, the audience, knowing what's going to happen: Leo's bluff had brilliant intentions, but it seemed idiotic since we knew that the mutants were behind them, and we knew those were the ones to be dropped into the vat. Then again, he didn't know they were there, and it was Rocksteady who said to mutate them all. It's driving me nuts thinking about it. I'm not saying that Leo's leadership is poor, but maybe a different bluff would have sufficed. I don't know. That's the only thing that's annoying me. But after watching Black Nerd, I realized that, yeah - It was Bebop and Rocksteady's fault. Does anyone agree?

I'm just glad they got the brain worm.

Plus, Leo with his swords and swinging them like helicopter propellers - great moment, but it made me think of that silly toy that Playmates is selling now. :tlol:

[BubblyShell22]

I don't care about Splinter staying home. He doesn't want to face Shredder because of what happened the last time they faced off, and he's worried that he'll lose his sons, so he decides to stay home. Plus, he told April in season one that he's the sensei and his job is to teach. In the OT, Splinter hardly ever went with the Turtles to fight with them unless he had to, so it doesn't bother me that this is happening in this show either.

Yeah, I noticed Leo's hand shaking and thought that was a nice touch to show his grief.

[IndigoErth]

At the same time though, when one of his kids was already badly injured by Shredder enough that he was unconscious for a few months, I'd have thought Splinter would lay down the authority and the importance of being respected and listened to (they are getting overdue for a chat about that...) and force Leo to listen to him when he wants to go running off to visit Shredder's alone again - or be forced to go after Leo. Heck, Mikey easily did. Dad? Nah... Go off and get hurt, learn the hard way, again. Wtf man, for a ninja master parent you're way too unaware of what your kids are up to and when they run off after you said no; even if they do have skills to be sneaky about it, they're still not at the same level.

[Danetello]

This was an interesting episode for me because while it tried to further the storyline with the brain worm, it also was very monster-of-the-week-ish. Having said that, there were some really neat moments. I like the little touches with sentimentality, like Mikey's name carved on the handle. I also really noticed the animation rendering and detailing in this episode has taken a huge leap forward. Near the start when Leo and Mikey are on the roof and the moon is shining down, I really felt as though I could just step into the scene, it was so realistic.
One last thing I noticed was how every minor character seemed to pop-up, like some shameless plug. That kind of bothered me, but at the same time, it was fun to see so many characters in one episode. We had everyone from Bebop, Rocksteady, the mini mutant Shredders, Fishface, Rahzar, Tiger Claw and April, Splinter and Casey. Funnily enough, the only one who didn't show up, but was actually mentioned by name, was Baxter.
Compared to the previous episode though, which was ridiculously well thought out, heartbreaking and developed the characters no end, this one did feel like a filler monster ep.

[TheMuz]

We just uploaded our video review of Attack of the Mega Shredder!! :)

I can't wait to see for the season finale, I'm pretty sure it'll be about Karai.

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[Cjmart019]

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