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Vicky82
08-28-2015, 03:33 PM
The Hollywood Reporter is reporting the Turtley Awesome news that film director and screenwriter Tim Hill is currently writing the pilot for a brand-new "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" project titled "The April O'Neil Files" for Nickelodeon!

It is currently unknown whether "The April O'Neil Files" will be a brand-new TMNT spin-off series or special, or a all-new "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" movie.

Tim Hill's credits includes "Rocko's Modern Life", "KaBlam!", "Action League Now!", "SpongeBob SquarePants", "The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie", "Alvin and the Chipmunks", "Hop", "Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever", "Short Circuit", "Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties", "Muppets from Space", "100 Deeds for Eddie McDowd" and "Max Keeble's Big Move"

http://nickalive.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/tim-hill-writing-april-oneil-files.html

Could be interesting, I guess it could be a prequel and maybe her mum could be in it.

TurtleTitan97
08-28-2015, 03:39 PM
I have absolutely no idea how to respond to this....

Oh wait, yes I do:

http://cdn.destructoid.com//ul/272132-header.jpg

The Turtle Terminator
08-28-2015, 03:44 PM
Let's see.. We are getting a spin off for a secondary character on a TV show that gets more plots and character development than one of the main characters.

But in all seriousness, I'm excited for this

Powder
08-28-2015, 03:52 PM
Interesting...! Though I have to wonder what the motivation is. The April & Casey series at IDW is clearly an attempt to pull in more female readers, but it's IMO pretty shallow... So far it's all teenage drama, romance, it's cliches, stuff that I have to assume chick readers never really asked for/wated. I hope this won't be similar in that respect. Chicks are people, & people like all sorts of stuff, not just "chick" stuff, ya know? But I'm jumping the gun, to be fair. It's just curious that she's been given such a push in the now, starring in the new film, getting a lot of spotlight in the cartoon, & her comic mini. Beyond the OT she was never meant to be this integral/important of a character beyond what her role serves to be for the TMNT, an initial link to the human world.

If this is a spin-off of the Nick show itself, then I'm definitely into it, I REALLY like Nick's April. If it's a movie, with Megan Fox, well, I've finally found a good enough reason to end my life. :tlol:

neatoman
08-28-2015, 04:10 PM
The guy made Garfield 2 and Chipmunks 1, not excited at all...

CyberCubed
08-28-2015, 04:15 PM
Its probably another one-off movie/special like the Half-Shell Heroes thing coming in November. Maybe they're going to continually make a whole bunch of spinoff specials.

ssjup81
08-28-2015, 04:56 PM
Hey, this might be nice. Maybe we'll actually learn something about April's home life. I've been curious about that since I stepped into this series.

Cure
08-28-2015, 04:59 PM
Sure, why not?

IndigoErth
08-28-2015, 05:04 PM
Hoping it's just a fun little one-off thing like the Half Shell bit. Or just a rare occasional thing as I'm kind of expecting those to end up. Could be cool, but if it's largely Turtleless...meh. April is ok, but never really been into her enough to be that interested in something without the guys.

If they are doing it to pull more girls into watching...then the continued blindness of the actual fanbase demographics - and that TMNT already has many female fans of all ages - is a bit :trolleye:.

Interesting...! Though I have to wonder what the motivation is. The April & Casey series at IDW is clearly an attempt to pull in more female readers, but it's IMO pretty shallow... So far it's all teenage drama, romance, it's cliches, stuff that I have to assume chick readers never really asked for/wated. I hope this won't be similar in that respect. Chicks are people, & people like all sorts of stuff, not just "chick" stuff, ya know?
Props for insightfulness. Wish the people who actually made it (or those doing the marketing?) understood it.

miru
08-28-2015, 05:10 PM
I like this concept. I hope Tempestra is the villain in this.

MaximeLoonatic
08-28-2015, 05:26 PM
I think it would be better if this new project would be a special episode or something. I do not see it succes as a spin off

TigerClaw
08-28-2015, 05:56 PM
Interesting, judging by the title, it looks like it will explore how April becomes the journalist/reporter.

oldmanwinters
08-28-2015, 06:01 PM
Hey, pretty cool! They are really hedging their bets to try and go with April as a centerpiece character for a show/movie/mini-series. But I'll be happy to give it a chance.

I saw this today courtesy of tOkKa, looks like the official channel of one of the Nick animators. Maybe it's a tease for the O'Neil Files?
https://twitter.com/nasuslee_/status/637169137878302720/photo/1

Papenbrook
08-28-2015, 06:05 PM
Um...what?! WHAT?!

Luckyday
08-28-2015, 06:28 PM
My first thought.
http://www.narutoforums.com/images/smilies/LRpJ8YW.png


But I have a bad feeling about this.

John Pannozzi
08-28-2015, 07:34 PM
The guy made Garfield 2 and Chipmunks 1, not excited at all...

He also wrote a bunch of great Rocko's Modern Life and SpongeBob episodes.

CyberCubed
08-28-2015, 07:34 PM
I wonder if this will be done in 2D like the Half-Shell heroes special. In fact I think I would love a bunch of 2D spinoffs of the main series.

TigerClaw
08-28-2015, 07:37 PM
Hey, pretty cool! They are really hedging their bets to try and go with April as a centerpiece character for a show/movie/mini-series. But I'll be happy to give it a chance.

I saw this today courtesy of tOkKa, looks like the official channel of one of the Nick animators. Maybe it's a tease for the O'Neil Files?
https://twitter.com/nasuslee_/status/637169137878302720/photo/1
Interesting, could this be what she will look like in this spin-off?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNet80NUEAAJhUT.jpg

The Big Bad
08-28-2015, 07:48 PM
Huh! On one hand, I'm really, really glad this is a thing that is being considered. On the other hand, there are so many ways this could go wrong, and given the Nick show's dismal record with the character and their selection of developer, I'm not exactly optimistic.


My personal best-case scenario: a live-action series in the vein of kids-oriented Doctor Who spin-off The Sarah Jane Adventures (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7zYmjf7Cgw). My personal worst case scenario: the current show, exactly, except starring April.

IndigoErth
08-28-2015, 07:53 PM
Interesting, could this be what she will look like in this spin-off?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNet80NUEAAJhUT.jpg
Really...?

Don't get me wrong, it's cute and all. But...like a gagging level of it.

Oh if only Disney were to one day get hold of TMNT, and then she can be a real princess. Alternately Nick could just mutate her slightly and give her sparkly fairy wings. TMNT/Winx Club cross over for the girls.

ToTheNines
08-28-2015, 07:58 PM
No me gusta. The title makes it sound like it would focus on her origin and how it relates to the Kraang. That art direction looks kind of... simple?

Could still be cool though, I will assuredly be checking it out.

Powder
08-28-2015, 08:00 PM
Pretty sure that's just fan art on her part.

oldmanwinters
08-28-2015, 08:00 PM
No me gusta. The title makes it sound like it would focus on her origin and how it relates to the Kraang. That art direction looks kind of... simple?

Could still be cool though, I will assuredly be checking it out.

Even though that is a drawing from one of TMNT's animators, my first thought was that it was just a fun doodle. There's a lot of them on Nasus's Twitter.

IndigoErth
08-28-2015, 08:05 PM
Actually, what if it's a series of shorts, like what 2003 did? And plays within commercial breaks or just randomly on Nick?

Bitsy83
08-28-2015, 08:37 PM
*runs here from Tumblr.* Ah, I see you all have gotten the news...

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that there'd be a spinoff, though I always thought it'd be with more of a minor character. April is just too major. Personally, I was placing my money on Fugitoid. Think about it: Intergalactic scientist. Has his own space ship. Travels the galaxy. It'd be like an animated Doctor Who for a slightly younger audience. I could even see Mona Lisa being his companion/body guard. I have this feeling that Fugitoid isn't a capable fighter.

Still, my idea may not work depending on what direction the writers want to take Fugitoid. Apparently, Fugitoid is a walking atomic bomb, so something tells me a self-sacrifice might be in store for season 4. Plus, we don't know if Mr. Tennant would be available to provide the voice full-time. I'm sure the British Isles are keeping him busy.

Let's just hope this isn't some lame attempt to broaden the female demographic of the fandom. I seriously think more girls are into this show than guys.

Papenbrook
08-28-2015, 09:17 PM
What is going on.....? What is literally going on.....? Don't they know that this will be a bad idea? :roll:

TurFlytle
08-28-2015, 09:46 PM
What is going on.....? What is literally going on.....? Don't they know that this will be a bad idea? :roll:

Calm down, we hardly know anything about it. Don't judge a book by it's cover. Don't just say it's a bad idea when we have very little details on what it is.

Ninturtle
08-28-2015, 09:49 PM
*runs here from Tumblr.* Ah, I see you all have gotten the news...

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that there'd be a spinoff, though I always thought it'd be with more of a minor character. April is just too major. Personally, I was placing my money on Fugitoid. Think about it: Intergalactic scientist. Has his own space ship. Travels the galaxy. It'd be like an animated Doctor Who for a slightly younger audience. I could even see Mona Lisa being his companion/body guard. I have this feeling that Fugitoid isn't a capable fighter.

Still, my idea may not work depending on what direction the writers want to take Fugitoid. Apparently, Fugitoid is a walking atomic bomb, so something tells me a self-sacrifice might be in store for season 4. Plus, we don't know if Mr. Tennant would be available to provide the voice full-time. I'm sure the British Isles are keeping him busy.

Let's just hope this isn't some lame attempt to broaden the female demographic of the fandom. I seriously think more girls are into this show than guys.
There's this thing on this forum we have called spoiler tags and I recommend you use them.

Bitsy83
08-28-2015, 10:04 PM
There's this thing on this forum we have called spoiler tags and I recommend you use them.

What did I spoil? People already know Fugitoid and Mona Lisa are joining the show and I don't think the atom bomb thing was that much a spoiler.

Ninturtle
08-28-2015, 10:08 PM
What did I spoil? People already know Fugitoid and Mona Lisa are joining the show and I don't think the atom bomb thing was that much a spoiler.
It's still a spoiler and something I'd rather find out watching the show. You should have put it in spoilers since that info was leaked from a book.

Bitsy83
08-28-2015, 10:11 PM
It's still a spoiler and something I'd rather find out watching the show. You should have put it in spoilers since that info was leaked from a book.

Actually, the atom bomb part was never mentioned in the book. That was what they talked about at the SDCC panel and it was on his character sheet. But I get what you're saying and I'll try to be more careful.

CyberCubed
08-28-2015, 10:31 PM
What is going on.....? What is literally going on.....? Don't they know that this will be a bad idea? :roll:

Why do you overreact over nonsense? This is probably a one-off special like the Half-Shell Heroes thing airing in November. Its nice to see the show might have a bunch of spinoffs at certain points.

snake
08-29-2015, 12:58 AM
Huh! On one hand, I'm really, really glad this is a thing that is being considered. On the other hand, there are so many ways this could go wrong, and given the Nick show's dismal record with the character and their selection of developer, I'm not exactly optimistic.


My personal best-case scenario: a live-action series in the vein of kids-oriented Doctor Who spin-off The Sarah Jane Adventures (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7zYmjf7Cgw). My personal worst case scenario: the current show, exactly, except starring April.

Sarah Jane Adventures was terrible. You'd actually want that?

ToTheNines
08-29-2015, 05:26 AM
Why do you overreact over nonsense?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bml.gif

Tarris Vaal
08-29-2015, 06:22 AM
Not sold on the art style at all.

That said, the idea of a short spin off examining her origins would be interesting - especially as it would add a level of depth to her character without pulling too much attention in the primary Nick show.

I think this will be an interesting one to keep an eye on

drgon78
08-29-2015, 06:30 AM
I would be interested if they keep the same animation for the main series but if they turn it into some cutesy 2D animated show then I will not be interested.

DarkLightDragon
08-29-2015, 06:50 AM
Not sold on the art style at all.

That said, the idea of a short spin off examining her origins would be interesting - especially as it would add a level of depth to her character without pulling too much attention in the primary Nick show.

I think this will be an interesting one to keep an eye on

Once again, the artwork TigerClaw posted was fanart. Not what was in the actual news update.

IndigoErth
08-29-2015, 07:22 AM
That's a little comforting. As fan art, fine, works for that. If it had been design for a special/series...please no.

oldmanwinters
08-29-2015, 07:45 AM
Once again, the artwork TigerClaw posted was fanart. Not what was in the actual news update.

Well, to be fair... it IS art created by one of the show's animators.

DarkLightDragon
08-29-2015, 07:46 AM
TBF to TigerClaw, I kinda attribute that to how he tends to post something official. So when he posts something that looks straight out of Deviantart, tumblr, etc. people will confuse it as official.

oldmanwinters
08-29-2015, 07:54 AM
TBF to TigerClaw, I kinda attribute that to how he tends to post something official. So when he posts something that looks straight out of Deviantart, tumblr, etc. people will confuse it as official.

It's interesting that both myself and TigerClaw reposted the Twitter link and neither of us said there was any confirmation it was official art from a new show. Rather, we both just wondered if it might be.

And multiple people on this thread just see the picture and assume an official character model for a new spin-off show.

READ, internet.



I saw this today courtesy of tOkKa, looks like the official channel of one of the Nick animators. Maybe it's a tease for the O'Neil Files?
https://twitter.com/nasuslee_/status/637169137878302720/photo/1

Interesting, could this be what she will look like in this spin-off?

GoldMutant
08-29-2015, 08:17 AM
What is going on.....? What is literally going on.....? Don't they know that this will be a bad idea? :roll:

Alright explain then how it's a bad idea.

I'd say it can work if not overdone, about time we learn more history on the characters. :) I'd personally would love a special on the Mutanimals, the Splinter and Shredder rivalry in more detail, and possibly a Casey story.

Okay, now I'm pushing it. :lol: In all seriousness, not a bad idea for a concept, just Tim Hill seems a bit concerning. He did do Rocko and Spongebob, two of the best of Nickelodeon though in Bob's case now one of the worst. That and with the Garfield film.... this might be either hit or miss in the writing department. I will admit though the fan art is decent.

Overall, I'm personally mixed on this. The idea has potential and it can configure for future character specials hopefully, but the writer is where I'm personally worried about. Guess we'll have to wait and see until more news is released.

BubblyShell22
08-29-2015, 08:45 AM
Sounds like it could be interesting as we can learn more about her. But I really hope the Turtles will be in it, too, and it won't just be about April herself. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.

Papenbrook
08-29-2015, 09:31 AM
Don't get me wrong. I am NOT against the art style. In, fact I actually think it looks beautiful. I just don't think April needs this much attention.

TurFlytle
08-29-2015, 09:41 AM
Don't get me wrong. I am NOT against the art style. In, fact I actually think it looks beautiful. I just don't think April needs this much attention.

Ok, so you're saying you don't want her to get character development. So, it's a bad idea to have a spin-off based on the thing the show's lacking in. 87 April was always mutated and was just a damsel in distress, that's hardly any character development if I say so myself. :lol:

The Big Bad
08-29-2015, 09:44 AM
Sarah Jane Adventures was terrible. You'd actually want that?

Yup. I'll be the first to admit having serious issues with the series, but if this April O'Neil project can match or surpass its basic decency, imagination, character- and world-building, and ability to actually carry an emotional beat, then it will be exponentially better and far more worthwhile than the current Nick cartoon.

Candy Kappa
08-29-2015, 10:37 AM
Eh, not really all that invested in April for a spin-off. Could be interesting though.

Papenbrook
08-29-2015, 11:36 AM
So, my initial response was full of disapproval for the possible spin-off. Since I have calmed down though, I think I can express my response more clearly.

At first, I didn't know what to think when it came to this announcement. I was mixed with shock, disapproval, and optimism. But after I calmed down, I began to...warm up to it. The art style is really beautiful, and the director must know what he is doing, since he has had experience with making all kinds of shows.

I really hope this project will work out in the end. I really do.

neatoman
08-29-2015, 12:35 PM
So there's no word on what the set-up or plot is? Just a title and a possible design for April? That's not a very good sign...

TurtleTitan97
08-29-2015, 12:40 PM
So there's no word on what the set-up or plot is? Just a title and a possible design for April? That's not a very good sign...

Why would there be a plot synopsis when they probably only just started this project recently? For all we know they're still writing out the story.

Mew
08-29-2015, 12:50 PM
Why would there be a plot synopsis when they probably only just started this project recently? For all we know they're still writing out the story.
I wouldn't be surprised if it came out in 2017.

BabyTurtles
08-29-2015, 03:02 PM
Interesting, could this be what she will look like in this spin-off?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNet80NUEAAJhUT.jpg

If this is real....(Which I kinda doubt...)

How old will she be in the spinoff? She looks a little older here...(but she couldn't be since she's wearing the same clothes...)

jenna
08-29-2015, 04:03 PM
i honestly don't know how to feel about this. On the one hand it might be interesting. On the other, it kinda smacks of a character that has been increasingly eclipsing the turtle characters for 3 seasons and needs her own spin-off so as to eclipse them further but in an environment where fans can't complain about lack of screen time for the turtles.

Maybe giving April her own showcase will shift some of the focus in TMNT from her and back onto the turtles?

I guess it'll be a case of "wait and see".

TurFlytle
08-29-2015, 04:06 PM
If this is real....(Which I kinda doubt...)

How old will she be in the spinoff? She looks a little older here...(but she couldn't be since she's wearing the same clothes...)

Who says she couldn't wear a different sized version of her clothes?

BabyTurtles
08-29-2015, 04:59 PM
Who says she couldn't wear a different sized version of her clothes?

well she looks like 18-19....I don't know...I feel like that's the time to change clothes XD (since they look exactly the same)

OrangeNinja1987
08-29-2015, 05:04 PM
i honestly don't know how to feel about this. On the one hand it might be interesting. On the other, it kinda smacks of a character that has been increasingly eclipsing the turtle characters for 3 seasons and needs her own spin-off so as to eclipse them further but in an environment where fans can't complain about lack of screen time for the turtles.

Maybe giving April her own showcase will shift some of the focus in TMNT from her and back onto the turtles?

I guess it'll be a case of "wait and see".

I have been noticing in the last half of season 3 an unusual lack of screen time for April. Currently, her character doesn't have much to do, so that could be why. But maybe the writers chose to particularly not give her character much to do in season 3, as a big complaint in season 2 was the large amount of focus on her. Even Donatello's crush on her has been majorly downplayed lately.
Seriously, what is the last major thing April has done for the plot? I may be forgetting something big, but I only recall her returning Splinter to sanity in Return to New York. Of the last ten or so episodes, she hasn't been in Attack of the MegaShredder (if I remember right, but that episode is rapidly fading from my memory), Tale of Yokai, Turtles in Time, Meet Mondo Gecko, Clash of the Mutanimals,
Casey Jones vs. the Underworld, Battle for New York 1 & 2 (?), and the majority of Vision Quest or the Pig and the Rhino.
Maybe her lack of screen time is due to complaints & partly they are trying to minimize her focus in the original show to validate her for a spin-off/special.

MsMarvelDuckie
08-29-2015, 05:32 PM
Actually, April WAS in Attack of the Mega Shredder (she and Casey both helped pilot the turtle mech), Casey Jones Vs. the Underworld (short bit, but still), and Battle for New York (both parts) as well. She was also in Vision Quest, though she and Casey were only in that episode for a couple of scenes at the beginning and end. She wasn't in Tale of the Yokai or Turtles in Time, but that's because both of those were set in the past.

Foombamaroom
08-29-2015, 05:57 PM
We're getting an April spin-off? Didn't we already get one that was released on August 8th, 2014?

blindturtle02
08-29-2015, 06:31 PM
The title alone sounds intriguing. I'll be checking this out for sure, and hope that it does well. I'd like to see her making a name for herself and delving into her family history if they're picking up plot threads from the 2012 series. Too soon to tell though, so I guess I'll have to be patient. Man, I hate waiting.

Papenbrook
08-29-2015, 06:39 PM
Maybe the project will try to focus on her school life.

TurtleTitan97
08-29-2015, 07:02 PM
Maybe the project will try to focus on her school life.

Man I hope that solely isn't the case.

oldmanwinters
08-29-2015, 07:20 PM
Maybe the project will try to focus on her school life.

Get ready, fans, maybe we'll finally see the debut of the "real" Irma. :tlol:

CyberCubed
08-29-2015, 08:26 PM
The O'Neil files makes me think of "X-Files" or "Scooby Doo."

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this is a mystery type series where April has to solve clues for a crime or something, likely leading to certain mutants terrorizing citizens or something.

A TMNT version of Scooby Doo perhaps?

IndigoErth
08-29-2015, 08:49 PM
Random prediction today: Shorts revolving around her journal writing.

TurtleTitan97
08-29-2015, 08:56 PM
Random prediction today: Shorts revolving around her journal writing.

I thought the same thing as well.

Papenbrook
08-29-2015, 09:09 PM
I wonder if the show takes place BEFORE she met the turtles. That would be interesting.

Shark_Blade
08-29-2015, 09:39 PM
She's the center of the new box office hit movie, so it's not surprising she stars her own show. :tlove::D

ssjup81
08-29-2015, 09:45 PM
Random prediction today: Shorts revolving around her journal writing.That's an idea. She obviously writes in one, so they could do shorts based around that. Get into her frame of mind on certain things and whatnot...like her true feelings on being indirectly experimented on. I'd be pretty cool with that.The O'Neil files makes me think of "X-Files" or "Scooby Doo."

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this is a mystery type series where April has to solve clues for a crime or something, likely leading to certain mutants terrorizing citizens or something.

A TMNT version of Scooby Doo perhaps?How about the Mystery Files of Shelby Woo? :-P

TurtleTitan97
08-29-2015, 09:47 PM
She's the center of the new box office hit movie, so it's not surprising she stars her own show. :tlove::D

Seriously Shark, enough with these types of comments already.

Foombamaroom
08-29-2015, 10:02 PM
She's the center of the new box office hit movie, so it's not surprising she stars her own show. :tlove::D

Why in God's name do you say that like it's a good thing?

TurFlytle
08-29-2015, 10:36 PM
She's the center of the new box office hit movie, so it's not surprising she stars her own show. :tlove::D

*facepalm* The only reason why it grossed lots of money was because old and new fans of the movies came to watch it. Just because the sales did well doesn't mean it's good. Look at other films Michael Bay worked on that done wells sales wise, but weren't good. Stop being oblivious that people hated it. Most of the awards and reviews were NEGATIVE ones, not positive. The only one that actually won was for Worst Supporting Actress. Nice picture to paint "the best movie ever".

jenna
08-30-2015, 04:03 AM
I have been noticing in the last half of season 3 an unusual lack of screen time for April. Currently, her character doesn't have much to do, so that could be why. But maybe the writers chose to particularly not give her character much to do in season 3, as a big complaint in season 2 was the large amount of focus on her. Even Donatello's crush on her has been majorly downplayed lately.
Seriously, what is the last major thing April has done for the plot? I may be forgetting something big, but I only recall her returning Splinter to sanity in Return to New York. Of the last ten or so episodes, she hasn't been in Attack of the MegaShredder (if I remember right, but that episode is rapidly fading from my memory), Tale of Yokai, Turtles in Time, Meet Mondo Gecko, Clash of the Mutanimals,
Casey Jones vs. the Underworld, Battle for New York 1 & 2 (?), and the majority of Vision Quest or the Pig and the Rhino.
Maybe her lack of screen time is due to complaints & partly they are trying to minimize her focus in the original show to validate her for a spin-off/special.

Really? Now that's interesting. I'm in the UK and don't have the Nick channel, so other than a couple of episodes I've managed to catch on YouTube, I've only seen what's available on iTunes, which currently stops at Battle for New York. From what you say, they may well be paving the way to shift April's focus to a separate show.

Is there are a market for a non-turtle-centric TMNT based show? That will be interesting to find out.

Amaranthus
08-30-2015, 05:06 AM
Why in God's name do you say that like it's a good thing?

Why in god's name are you still taking Shark_Blade seriously?
If I recall correctly you were the person that wrote that cringeworthy "Lynch them all" song. You need to stop getting so angry about stuff you don't like.

Cryomancer
08-30-2015, 05:19 AM
You know I would almost not hate it if this is a side-series running concurrently with April having secretly became Nobody (Nightwatcher?) because she wanted to "do more" with her training or whatever. I doubt it will be this, at all, but that might be ok?

I imagine this is just Nick trying to get more out of the franchise they paid so much for and thus my bet will be "unrelated show aimed at girls to diversify the brand".

LeoRaph
08-30-2015, 05:35 AM
After April O'neil: The Movie, I can't get on board with this at all :tgrumble:

There are much more interesting supporting characters in the entire Turtle Universe, Karai for one or even Tiger Claw. Hell, I'd love a series that focused on only Oroku Saki and his slow rise to the top of underworld, maybe even Karai and him, Now that would be interesting! But yeah, Judging by the 'art' if that is actually it, it seems they want to appeal to more female 'kawaii type' audience yet they don't realise how many females actually like just the turtles. SMH...

drgon78
08-30-2015, 05:52 AM
April is one of my favorite characters so I would be fine seeing a spin off series of psychic investigations or at least a series that shows more about her. I just hope it has the same animation style otherwise I will look at as an alternate dimension.

IndigoErth
08-30-2015, 07:06 AM
She's the center of the new box office hit movie, so it's not surprising she stars her own show. :tlove::D
*glare*

The show already picked up the idea that they have mutagen in them now, despite Nick Turtles only coming into contact with it and not having been injected with it like the film. :roll: Maybe with your support Viacom, Nick and PD can ruin the whole concept. I guess as long as it pleases one person....

Luckyday
08-30-2015, 09:14 AM
Really? Now that's interesting. I'm in the UK and don't have the Nick channel, so other than a couple of episodes I've managed to catch on YouTube, I've only seen what's available on iTunes, which currently stops at Battle for New York. From what you say, they may well be paving the way to shift April's focus to a separate show.

Is there are a market for a non-turtle-centric TMNT based show? That will be interesting to find out.

It's not the first time in tmnt history that April had her own spin off.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MDqkCLsJCr8/ThCynA4U6VI/AAAAAAAAGQY/8OhFisArKJU/s400/April01.jpg

After April O'neil: The Movie, I can't get on board with this at all :tgrumble:

There are much more interesting supporting characters in the entire Turtle Universe, Karai for one or even Tiger Claw. Hell, I'd love a series that focused on only Oroku Saki and his slow rise to the top of underworld, maybe even Karai and him, Now that would be interesting! But yeah, Judging by the 'art' if that is actually it, it seems they want to appeal to more female 'kawaii type' audience yet they don't realise how many females actually like just the turtles. SMH...

I honestly think that they're not really trying to go after the female audience who have already been invested in the the original show because they're the small minority of the target demographic. They're going after the girls who don't watch the original show and try to appeal to them with things that are believed that all girls (I assuming age 9-11) will undoubtedly loved.

NinjaPug
08-30-2015, 09:35 AM
I wonder if the show takes place BEFORE she met the turtles. That would be interesting.

How would that be interesting? That sounds like a really boring show to me.

IndigoErth
08-30-2015, 09:39 AM
Alternately Nick could just mutate her slightly and give her sparkly fairy wings. TMNT/Winx Club cross over for the girls.
Recalled saying that two days ago... suddenly remembers her voice actor also does Tinkerbell. :teek: Ok, lil' too close to home. lol Don't you dare, Nick.

Ninturtle
08-30-2015, 10:12 AM
After April O'neil: The Movie, I can't get on board with this at all :tgrumble:

There are much more interesting supporting characters in the entire Turtle Universe, Karai for one or even Tiger Claw. Hell, I'd love a series that focused on only Oroku Saki and his slow rise to the top of underworld, maybe even Karai and him, Now that would be interesting! But yeah, Judging by the 'art' if that is actually it, it seems they want to appeal to more female 'kawaii type' audience yet they don't realise how many females actually like just the turtles. SMH...

That art isn't confirmed to be the art style of the show so you can't judge it off that.

Papenbrook
08-30-2015, 10:19 AM
That art isn't confirmed to be the art style of the show so you can't judge it off that.
I wish it were though.

Luckyday
08-30-2015, 10:34 AM
That fan art looks more suited as a web series. Not something that I would see on tv.

Papenbrook
08-30-2015, 10:40 AM
That fan art looks more suited as a web series. Not really that I would see on tv.
How so? I think it looks beautiful either way.

Luckyday
08-30-2015, 12:21 PM
How so? I think it looks beautiful either way.

It just looks like something that can made with flash animation which is often a go to software for small projects like this.

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IndigoErth
08-30-2015, 05:47 PM
It's cute as an art piece and no insult intended to the artist, but I think as an art style for animation...pretty sure it would give me cavities, an overactive gag reflex, and type 2 diabetes.

Not that I'd be personally forced to watch. But the art style is just suggestive of a sort of character type/personality that's already been aimed at girls a lot and not a path I'd personally want to see anything of TMNT go down.

oldmanwinters
08-30-2015, 05:55 PM
If Nasus Lee does end up working on the spin-off show, I'll be happy, since it looks like she did some of the scenes of the Mondo Gecko episode, and I really liked the humor of that episode:
https://vimeo.com/134181087

And, hey, looks like she also did some work on the upcoming Triceraton/Raphael fight scene!

According to her Facebook page, she drew that April O'Neil doodle at the request of her "boss," so everybody should stop calling it "fan art" even if there's no confirmation it will actually be connected to the spin-off series. Sounds like she was at least on the clock for this doodle:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/slimer2erasmus/TMNT/NasusLeeAprilONeil_zpsozkwdxxs.png (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/slimer2erasmus/media/TMNT/NasusLeeAprilONeil_zpsozkwdxxs.png.html)

Powder
08-30-2015, 06:05 PM
It's still fan art, she's a fan & it's not official media, despite her position at the company. To call it anything else would further push the confusion that is has something to do with this pilot.

oldmanwinters
08-30-2015, 06:08 PM
It's still fan art, she's a fan & it's not official media, despite her position at the company. To call it anything else would further push the confusion that is has something to do with this pilot.

Well, I'll certainly grant that she seems to be a genuine fan. It's nice to know folks who work on the shows have a genuine appreciate for the characters. :tgrin:

(Plus, it's kinda fun to worry folks on this thread)

MsMarvelDuckie
08-30-2015, 07:11 PM
That is cruel, LOL! And on-topic, I don't really care for that art style at all. It's too "cute-sey" for my taste.

BabyTurtles
08-30-2015, 07:17 PM
The only problem I'm having with the art style is that April is mostly all hips and legs in the drawing....:ohwell:

...reminds me a bit of sailor moon.

Papenbrook
08-30-2015, 07:24 PM
The only problem I'm having with the art style is that April is mostly all hips and legs in the drawing....:ohwell:

...reminds me a bit of sailor moon.
What do you mean? Your disturded by her pear figure...? I'm not trying to be rude. Just asking.

Luckyday
08-30-2015, 07:28 PM
The only problem I'm having with the art style is that April is mostly all hips and legs in the drawing....:ohwell:

...reminds me a bit of sailor moon.

Well I will admit that I had similar apprehension towards Steven Universe so maybe this would be a similar case and somehow the art style itself will grow on you after a while.

Powder
08-30-2015, 07:30 PM
She's "all hips & legs" in the Nick show too, yo. Accentuating her figure is nothing new.

BabyTurtles
08-30-2015, 07:34 PM
What do you mean? Your disturded by her pear figure...? I'm not trying to be rude. Just asking.

No what I'm saying is she's supposed to be 16 right? She looks like she has a 20 year old body, with super shorts and a tight shirt.

bottomline to put it bluntly, I feel like the art style is sexualizing April a bit. :ohwell:

like in sailor moon we are supposed to believe this
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=33665307
Is 14.

Powder
08-30-2015, 07:47 PM
Considering it's fan art, where one has creative liberty to do as they wish, what does it matter?

BabyTurtles
08-30-2015, 07:50 PM
Considering it's fan art, where one has creative liberty to do as they wish, what does it matter?

No if it's fanart that's fine but if it's for the actually show then I have a problem.

MsMarvelDuckie
08-30-2015, 08:03 PM
My only real problem with it is the face looks too round and "cheeky", and the odd-looking uneven boobs. Seriously, one's actually higher than the other?! Weird, and kind of amateurish, to me.

Powder
08-30-2015, 08:05 PM
No if it's fanart that's fine but if it's for the actually show then I have a problem.

But this is fine? Not terribly different.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/c/cb/April_ch_pu2.png/revision/latest?cb=20140503233159

BabyTurtles
08-30-2015, 08:10 PM
But this is fine? Not terribly different.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/c/cb/April_ch_pu2.png/revision/latest?cb=20140503233159

The only problem I have with that April is her incredibly tight shirt.

but other than that, she's not like the fanart.

so yea I'm more okay with it.

OrangeNinja1987
08-30-2015, 08:13 PM
Actually, April WAS in Attack of the Mega Shredder (she and Casey both helped pilot the turtle mech), Casey Jones Vs. the Underworld (short bit, but still), and Battle for New York (both parts) as well. She was also in Vision Quest, though she and Casey were only in that episode for a couple of scenes at the beginning and end. She wasn't in Tale of the Yokai or Turtles in Time, but that's because both of those were set in the past.

I already mentioned in my first post on this thread that she wasn't in the MAJORITY of Vision Quest. I knew she was in it a little.
I couldn't remember if she was in Battle for New York or Attack of the Mega-Shredder, and my lack of memory of her in them is good proof that she had very small roles in either.
Of course, the writers could have put her in the Turtles in Time episodes had they wanted to and were really as April obsessed as this forum makes them out to be. But they didn't.
This is a seriously lower amount of focus than she had throughout most of seasons 1 and 2. Heck, the Kraang didn't even bother trying to capture her or anything in the season 2 finale, because they either collected enough of her DNA already or had worked around her need in the mutagen perfection.
I do like April's character fairly well, but I'm glad she's not the center of the universe anymore.

MsMarvelDuckie
08-30-2015, 08:48 PM
Ah, I see. Your original post made it sound as if she wasn't in that one at all. Actually, I think they didn't use her in the time-travel episodes because she wasn't necessary for the plot, and they didn't want to spend time or money on character models that served no purpose. She tends to take a back seat in most episodes lately unless there is some point to her being there. She was in most of the Northhampton episodes because she was part of the plots of those episodes in some way, even if only marginally. Once they returned to the city and got rid of the Kraang, however, she was no longer as important to any of the plots, so they parked her off-screen. Makes perfect sense to me. No reason to take up screen time with a character who isn't serving any purpose in the story.

I really don't think the writers are as obsessed with her character as some seem to think, they have just been trying to find ways to use her so that she's not just "there". In earlier versions, she's always had some way of helping the turtles, whether as a reporter getting the latest intel on bad guys, or in a techie support role. This April doesn't have those abilities to contribute, so they've made her important in other ways- mostly with the Kraang and Donnie's crush. Now that both are mostly played out, she probably won't be around as much, and Casey might start to take a larger role. That's just a hunch, though.

ssjup81
08-30-2015, 10:05 PM
No what I'm saying is she's supposed to be 16 right? She looks like she has a 20 year old body, with super shorts and a tight shirt.

bottomline to put it bluntly, I feel like the art style is sexualizing April a bit. :ohwell:

like in sailor moon we are supposed to believe this
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=33665307
Is 14.Yes, it's believable6. Usagi was only supposed to have been like 5'0 tall anyway. I've worked with junior high kids here. Usagi looks as average as the kids I dealt with.

IndigoErth
08-30-2015, 10:33 PM
and the odd-looking uneven boobs. Seriously, one's actually higher than the other?!
Hadn't noticed that. lol Well, I guess even those who are severely lopsided need role models.


Also...

April:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/winx/images/b/b5/Bloom_believix.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130425102458
+
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120228021308/disney/images/thumb/b/b6/Jasmine-Wallpaper-disney-princess-6015277-1024-768.jpg/102px-Jasmine-Wallpaper-disney-princess-6015277-1024-768.jpg

MsMarvelDuckie
08-30-2015, 10:56 PM
ROFL! Now that I think of it, that might actually make her fun to watch!

Coola Yagami
08-30-2015, 11:13 PM
Hadn't noticed that. lol Well, I guess even those who are severely lopsided need role models.


Also...

April:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/winx/images/b/b5/Bloom_believix.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130425102458
+
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120228021308/disney/images/thumb/b/b6/Jasmine-Wallpaper-disney-princess-6015277-1024-768.jpg/102px-Jasmine-Wallpaper-disney-princess-6015277-1024-768.jpg

I was under the impression that April just now struck that pose and her boobs are kinda... jiggling into place.

Ninjinister
08-30-2015, 11:48 PM
It's still fan art, she's a fan & it's not official media, despite her position at the company. To call it anything else would further push the confusion that is has something to do with this pilot.

If she is being paid for this piece by Nickelodeon Studios then you bet your sweet butt it's not fan art. It could be for any number of projects or nothing at all, but it's not fan art. If the people who make the thing give you money to help make the thing, it's not a fan work, no matter how much of a fan you are.

Now if she'd done this just for S&G, that's fan art. Or if she were doing something like Sophie Campbell's Secret of the Ooze webcomic. Sophie gets paid to draw Turtles, but she's not getting paid to draw Turtles in that instance. That makes that a fan comic.

If people get confused by calling it an official piece regardless of its status with The April O'Neil Files, then that's their problem. They lack a basic reading/comprehension skill and I hope they get help for that.

Powder
08-31-2015, 01:08 AM
She said it was a request, & I'd say it's fair to assume that requests fall under "S&G" which would mean it's still fan art. Nick's definitely not paying for anything that isn't being used.
I know it comes from her boss, but that doesn't mean it's work related.

IndigoErth
08-31-2015, 01:18 AM
ROFL! Now that I think of it, that might actually make her fun to watch!
I was under the impression that April just now struck that pose and her boobs are kinda... jiggling into place.
:lol: Boob lag. Can't say I've experienced it personally.

Drose18
08-31-2015, 01:37 AM
April having force powers that would rival Yoda's is pretty whack

drgon78
08-31-2015, 06:04 AM
It's not like anyone is forcing you to watch it.

Vicky82
08-31-2015, 06:48 AM
Guys you do realise this is only a pilot and won't be shown to the public (unless it gets leaked), it's only just a test to see if Nick will like it or not. The show might not even happen.

oldmanwinters
08-31-2015, 07:47 AM
She said it was a request, & I'd say it's fair to assume that requests fall under "S&G" which would mean it's still fan art. Nick's definitely not paying for anything that isn't being used.
I know it comes from her boss, but that doesn't mean it's work related.

Heh, maybe it was a commission! That'd be kinda funny.

LeoRaph
08-31-2015, 07:37 PM
Guys you do realise this is only a pilot and won't be shown to the public (unless it gets leaked), it's only just a test to see if Nick will like it or not. The show might not even happen.

Good Point there. Sort of a relief but I'd still love a rise of Oroku Saki and Karai spin off if ever they were to do one.

Papenbrook
09-01-2015, 06:04 PM
Seriously, guys. The art style is not sexualizing April in any way. You guys are just thinking it's sexualized.

Ninturtle
09-01-2015, 06:17 PM
Seriously, guys. The art style is not sexualizing April in any way. You guys are just thinking it's sexualized.

There's like one person who said that , you're making it seem like multiple members are stating this.

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 06:23 PM
April is already sexualized in the series with tons of butt shots, so what difference does it make? At least this isn't anime or else you would have locker room scenes of April undressing or panty shots or April lifting up her shirt.

Seriously, the way you people complain about cartoons it makes me realize you guys have no idea what goes on in Japanese anime that's aimed at kids the same way Nick's TMNT show is.

Papenbrook
09-01-2015, 06:27 PM
There's like one person who said that , you're making it seem like multiple members are stating this.
Even though one person explicitly stated that, multiple people were implying it. Why are people spending time sexualizing a teenager?

DarkLightDragon
09-01-2015, 06:41 PM
Even though one person explicitly stated that, multiple people were implying it. Why are people spending time sexualizing a teenager?

Why not, the rest of the Internet already does that.:P

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 06:47 PM
Even though one person explicitly stated that, multiple people were implying it. Why are people spending time sexualizing a teenager?

You don't watch much cartoons/anime, do you? Teenage girls are sexualized in superhero cartoons and anime all the time.

ssjup81
09-01-2015, 06:48 PM
April is already sexualized in the series with tons of butt shots, so what difference does it make? At least this isn't anime or else you would have locker room scenes of April undressing or panty shots or April lifting up her shirt.How can one person show so much ignorance?Seriously, the way you people complain about cartoons it makes me realize you guys have no idea what goes on in Japanese anime that's aimed at kids the same way Nick's TMNT show is.Obviously you don't know what goes on either...

Papenbrook
09-01-2015, 06:51 PM
That doesn't mean its right. Japan has different standards than the United States.

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 06:59 PM
How can one person show so much ignorance?Obviously you don't know what goes on either...

Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.

Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.

TurtleTitan97
09-01-2015, 07:00 PM
Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.

Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.

Oh brother. :trolleye:

ssjup81
09-01-2015, 07:14 PM
That doesn't mean its right. Japan has different standards than the United States.No one really is. I just personally hate blanket statements. That's like saying all white guys like rock and racist rednecks or that all blacks smoke weed and listen to rap or that Latinos sit around drinking Tequila with a bunch of kids...I dunno. I hate stereotypes and blanket statements.

You'd probably never see sexualized characters in shows literally aimed at young kids. That'd be weird. Anpanman with sexualized characters. Creepy thinking about it. That aside, yes women and girls are sexualized in some way everywhere. It also depends on the demographic and crap like that of said series for the Japan shows/comics.

Shows that feature people bathing (unless it's ecchi stuff), btw, isn't sexualizing. It's ingrained into the culture and people bathe together, like parents with their kids (weird to me, but I blame my being from the US for that). Nudity isn't seen in the same way here. Breastfeeding isn't taboo, for instance and at an early age kids, know of the body differences because they change in front of one another and use the same restroom. They learn at a young age that nudity isn't a big deal. Elementary School is when they separate them.

ssjup81
09-01-2015, 07:21 PM
Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.That's more of an exception than the rule. Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.Thank you. I have learned that Dragonball = all anime.

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 07:29 PM
That's more of an exception than the rule. Thank you. I have learned that Dragonball = all anime.

Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh and other "kids anime" all have fanservice scenes that sexualize the female characters in them. And most of the girls on those shows are as young as 10 and early teens.

TurtleTitan97
09-01-2015, 07:31 PM
Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh and other "kids anime" all have fanservice scenes that sexualize the female characters in them. And most of the girls on those shows are as young as 10 and early teens.

Oh, really? Then by all means Cubed, share with us some examples of this from those shows. Because you CLEARLY are an expert when it comes to anime. :roll:

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 07:35 PM
Oh, really? Then by all means Cubed, share with us some examples of this from those shows. Because you CLEARLY are an expert when it comes to anime. :roll:

Well if you watched the shows you would probably know, various swimsuit scenes or suggestive camera shots that focus on cleavage/legs, etc. Yu-gi-oh especially has tons of fanservice since its also technically a shonen show and not aimed at just kids.

Papenbrook
09-01-2015, 07:40 PM
Well if you watched the shows you would probably know, various swimsuit scenes or suggestive camera shots that focus on cleavage/legs, etc. Yu-gi-oh especially has tons of fanservice since its also technically a shonen show and not aimed at just kids.
Your delusional. Not every anime has fanservice.

TurtleTitan97
09-01-2015, 07:41 PM
I have watched them, but it's been years since I saw them and I honestly don't feel the urge to go back and watch all those episodes.

And you still didn't provide any examples. But I don't want this thread to go off topic than it already has so I'll just leave it at that and leave you to your delusions about anime.

CyberCubed
09-01-2015, 07:42 PM
Your delusional. Not every anime has fanservice.

Not every, but most do.


And you still didn't provide any examples. But I don't want this thread to go off topic than it already has so I'll just leave it at that and leave you to your delusions about anime.

Just go on google and type in the series name and fanservice. You'll find a whole bunch of examples as some people catalogued all this on either sites or youtube videos.

victory_angel
09-01-2015, 08:07 PM
Maybe this project would be events from the show from her point of view. For example we have her writing in that journal in the beginning of season one. Such as for example there are moments where something happens and then the series just doesn't focus on it any longer, such as that the three months at the farm house...that could be an entire arc.

BabyTurtles
09-01-2015, 09:39 PM
You don't watch much cartoons/anime, do you? Teenage girls are sexualized in superhero cartoons and anime all the time.

and it's all wrong. Anime/comics/cartoons doesn't matter it's still wrong.

Also...what is up with people and anime? it's like just cause it's anime we can throw our morals out the door.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-01-2015, 09:45 PM
Anime is from a culture that views things like public bathing, and nudity differently than we do, though. Different set of morals there. Can't compare it with Western cultural norms.

BabyTurtles
09-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Anime is from a culture that views things like public bathing, and nudity differently than we do, though. Different set of morals there. Can't compare it with Western cultural norms.

Sorry I can get that to a degree but there are some straight up perverted stuff in anime that's wrong not matter which country views it.

oldmanwinters
09-01-2015, 10:35 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/029/970/trainn.jpg (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/29970-threadjacking)

MsMarvelDuckie
09-01-2015, 11:04 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/029/970/trainn.jpg (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/29970-threadjacking)


ROFL! Not gonna lie- I kind of agree.


Sorry I can get that to a degree but there are some straight up perverted stuff in anime that's wrong not matter which country views it.


First off, most of the stuff Cubed is talking about, is in animes aimed at ADULTS. Things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, etc. Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and even Inuyasha have SOME little "fanservice" moments, but again, they are aimed at an older audience, NOT kids as he seems to think. Most of those anime are aimed at the 15-20+ crowd, actually. In other words, an audience that is more mature to begin with.

Secondly, what WE consider perverted (the bathing, locker room scenes, and similar scenes) is not at all to them. It's normal. Even parents and kids or sibling or whatever in the same tub or pool naked- they don't look at it as a sexual thing AT ALL.

oldmanwinters
09-01-2015, 11:12 PM
Guys you do realise this is only a pilot and won't be shown to the public (unless it gets leaked), it's only just a test to see if Nick will like it or not. The show might not even happen.

Good reminder that even high profile pilots don't always get the green-light to go all the way into production:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/nbc-cancels-coach-revival-series-023616168.html

BabyTurtles
09-02-2015, 12:32 AM
ROFL! Not gonna lie- I kind of agree.





First off, most of the stuff Cubed is talking about, is in animes aimed at ADULTS. Things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, etc. Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and even Inuyasha have SOME little "fanservice" moments, but again, they are aimed at an older audience, NOT kids as he seems to think. Most of those anime are aimed at the 15-20+ crowd, actually. In other words, an audience that is more mature to begin with.

Secondly, what WE consider perverted (the bathing, locker room scenes, and similar scenes) is not at all to them. It's normal. Even parents and kids or sibling or whatever in the same tub or pool naked- they don't look at it as a sexual thing AT ALL.

Yea, I know anime. I watched it alot when I was a kid and I still watch it (not as much though)

and yea I also get that too.

Still whether it's aimed at teens or kids, anime tends to over sexualize their girls way too much. Such as Fairy Tail, which I heard was actually for kids.

but....anyway we are getting off track from the subject....bottomline...I hope April looks okay if this is a show or miniseries.

neatoman
09-02-2015, 03:02 AM
How the hell did this thread end up about anime sexualising female characters?

Anyway, if you think Nickelodeon will use this spin-off to put April in a swimsuit or something, they're not above that:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/avatar/images/7/75/Charming_Ty_Lee.png/revision/latest?cb=20140908141054

And she was even younger than April.

BubblyShell22
09-02-2015, 09:02 AM
Even though one person explicitly stated that, multiple people were implying it. Why are people spending time sexualizing a teenager?

Says the guy who claimed that the show was fat shaming people. I'd say this is the pot calling the kettle black.

Luckyday
09-02-2015, 09:42 AM
After hearing about a old review of the mom thing episode, I think it's more then likely that that pilot will focus on April trying to find her mom.

I really hope that's the case because that would genuinely make me want to watch this.

TurFlytle
09-02-2015, 02:11 PM
Ok, how about we say that we know nothing about it so far and it's only just in beginning stages? Cubed, stop thinking about anime when this clearly isn't going to be like that. Dragon Ball Z was not aimed for kids, there were some moments with mild language and blood. (Such as Freiza's death on Namek.) You were the one sexualizing her, when I'm pretty sure that most teenagers have breasts and have a butt.

neatoman
09-02-2015, 03:20 PM
Dragon Ball Z was not aimed for kids, there were some moments with mild language and blood.

I don't know about other countries but over here the Dragon Ball manga was marted towards kids, as were the nine movies that got dubbed. And according to English Wikipedia on the ratings:

In 2002, in the week ending September 22nd, Dragon Ball Z was the #1 program of the week on all of television with tweens 9-14, boys 9-14 and men 12-24, with the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday telecasts of Dragon Ball Z ranked as the top three programs in all of television, broadcast or cable, for delivery of boys 9-14.

...

Dragon Ball Z Kai premiered on Nicktoons in May 2010 and set the record for the highest-rated premiere in total viewers, and in tweens and boys ages 9–14.

Yeah, kids' show.

victory_angel
09-02-2015, 04:20 PM
I don't know about other countries but over here the Dragon Ball manga was marted towards kids, as were the nine movies that got dubbed. And according to English Wikipedia on the ratings:



Yeah, kids' show.

In the west Cartoons in any form have a stigma that if it's animated it must be for kids. while there are some animated programs aimed at squarely at adults, they are considerably rarer then kids programming.

Yes I know shows like Simpsons and Family Guy are Adult oriented but they are nothing when compared to the Ralph Bakshi's films such as Fritz the Cat, Fire and Ice, Cool World and such which has much more adult content.

But anime in japan is marketed at a wide variety of genre and ages. Back in the 1980's when Japanese Animation was slowly trickling into the States there were horror stories about films such as Legend of the Overfiend being placed on shelves in the kids section simply because it is was an animated feature.

Legend of the Overfiend or Urotsukidōji is a tentacle porn...I'll just let that sink in a bit.

It's more of a horror film with Pornographic moments, but it is still tentacle porn by and large.

Also tamer films like grave of the fireflies have marked to kids as early as 3 years old because it's a Miyazaki film. At first that's okay after all Miyazaki is marketed to kids...but also bare in mind that Grave of the Fireflies also features two kids starving to death which sarcastically speaking is a jolly good thing to put your three year old in front of.

CyberCubed
09-02-2015, 04:25 PM
Not to mention there's tons of nudity in anime, even if its non-sexual. You would never see bare ass or chest shots in cartoons outside of adult comedies.

ssjup81
09-02-2015, 04:35 PM
Well if you watched the shows you would probably know, various swimsuit scenes or suggestive camera shots that focus on cleavage/legs, etc. Yu-gi-oh especially has tons of fanservice since its also technically a shonen show and not aimed at just kids.I'm baffled on this one. I have seen Digimon and Pokemon and I don't recall anything like that, especially Digimon where the majority of the series dealt with elementary school students...and anything involving bathing doesn't count.

As for Pokemon, the only things that pops into mind from the early eps is the ep with that Tomo kid and the Kangaskhan and the Alcapulco ep where Kojirou wore that body suit for the beauty contest and was teasing Kasumi over it.

The thing with Tomo was like a bad joke. He saw Kasumi and focused on her bust. He's a kid. Like I said before, breastfeeding isn't taboo here. It was a breastfeeding joke. The next scene, Papa opened his shirt.

drgon78
09-02-2015, 08:27 PM
There is an infamous scene in pokemon with team rocket wearing woman's bathing suits and I mean both of the human ones.:lol:

oldmanwinters
09-03-2015, 08:36 AM
How is this thread not locked or banished into the Disintegrator Unit yet?

TurFlytle
09-03-2015, 12:07 PM
How is this thread not locked or banished into the Disintegrator Unit yet?

I have no idea. Remember when this was about April? I didn't know this was the official Anime thread. :lol:

victory_angel
09-03-2015, 04:16 PM
How is this thread not locked or banished into the Disintegrator Unit yet?

I have no idea. Remember when this was about April? I didn't know this was the official Anime thread. :lol:

We don't have any information about the show itself other then it's being made. That's why it has dissolved into anime and sexualization diatribes

AnarkyLantern
09-07-2015, 12:33 AM
There is an infamous scene in pokemon with team rocket wearing woman's bathing suits and I mean both of the human ones.:lol:

That scene was cut when it finally aired in the U.S. It also included "James" inflating his bikini top. It just goes to show you what is deemed appropriate for kids in Japan is a little different. Pokemon and Zatch/Gash Bell are most certainly kids shows. Why did I bring up Zatch? Because in Japan, it had a recurring song about groping women.

Drose18
09-13-2015, 09:03 AM
This is like writing a show about chris from sonic x

Ninturtle
09-13-2015, 09:15 AM
This is like writing a show about chris from sonic x

Not really , Chris isn't an essential character to Sonic Lore.

Mew
09-13-2015, 09:48 AM
Not really , Chris isn't an essential character to Sonic Lore.
Or IS he? Sega has big plans.

ticktack
09-13-2015, 12:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNet80NUEAAJhUT.jpg
NO.
Where is her nose? She didn't color her lips with pink in the cartoon. If you want to make her different than a cartoon she could have earings, being a bit sunburnt at the beach, gain a little weight at her granny's you know.
As a conclusion: Make it more straight, have a little serious tone to her look etc.

___
Also if you haven't known, I've written this before:
I can also put, what I'm going to write, under the spoiler so... if you're interested, I'm going to write my thoughts about female characters, that's what it is about. :P Enjoy. :)

Discussing about females beginning with something (as the thread title) is a one of the starts. I think I can talk about females which are more likely to be in the show (in general not only tmnt) or are already there.
Main female character, protagonist, for this cartoon - April.
So what are they usually: sexy, pleasant looking or, at worst, just too much, poundering-wise(?). Being, as it called, sexy I find to be a variety (1 out of 6 or as you might know/think) and not exclusive for women, and being cute or sexy comes out of a free wish or will of a woman or an individual in general.
I guess in a male heavy show where there is at least not as much females as males, maybe you should tone down on the sexy part for a female character, which are few out there, because making sexy could be a pink-bow situation or type of a stereotype (? maybe), because that has been done many times within media with few females or women around there, you know right? :) :)

Going back to the topic, I may suggest a headcanon:
If canon April is white (exept the Mirage one, it's a little doubtful) you can make sunburnt male April AU, because of variety of stories, a little twists, etc or... for a little reference ;) :) :P.
If you wanted to know, that talk was about "Would the turtles be as popular as much if they were females?".

Powder
09-13-2015, 05:01 PM
It's fan art, for the hundredth time.

Cure
09-13-2015, 05:05 PM
This is like writing a show about chris from sonic x

Sonic X WAS a show about Chris.

thundermaster612
05-31-2016, 03:05 PM
Really...?

Don't get me wrong, it's cute and all. But...like a gagging level of it.

Oh if only Disney were to one day get hold of TMNT, and then she can be a real princess. Alternately Nick could just mutate her slightly and give her sparkly fairy wings. TMNT/Winx Club cross over for the girls.

no, no, no, just ****ing no.

Powder
05-31-2016, 03:51 PM
Totally worth bumping the old thread for that post.

TheSkeletonMan939
05-31-2016, 05:12 PM
Oh yeah, I remember this thread. Why do so many threads on this board turn into discussions about sexualized women?

thundermaster612
05-31-2016, 05:55 PM
Its as what someone once said to me on the TMNT 2 thread (sorry I don't remember your name) and it doesn't apply to me but:
"with our pervy nature, how does it not? :lol:"

Autbot_Benz
05-31-2016, 06:33 PM
Oh yeah, I remember this thread. Why do so many threads on this board turn into discussions about sexualized women?

ask Cybercubed :lol:

matteso586
06-01-2016, 01:34 PM
If This is a TV movie, I would like the opening sequence to be similar to either this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LobJjaQMbpg

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plDfvYO7npE

Allio
06-06-2016, 07:17 AM
Oh, really? Then by all means Cubed, share with us some examples of this from those shows. Because you CLEARLY are an expert when it comes to anime. :roll:

Not trying to defend him, but there is thing Pokemon manga uncensored versions, though I mean, those are aimed slightly different than those from the anime, especially "Electic Tale of Pikachu" which I can't bring myself to read the english version of because the edits are so obvious it takes me out of it.

Then of course you have digimon
http://66.media.tumblr.com/c61651b34088e9f912bf7cda946d5e79/tumblr_ny6r81wug81tigjc8o9_400.jpg
Ah digimon
http://66.media.tumblr.com/03bd80fa12c9dac57bae7b498ef1728d/tumblr_ny6r6aRZVa1tigjc8o3_400.jpg
Probably the responsibility
http://67.media.tumblr.com/083be59506405acded326fdbdbeb2c36/tumblr_ny6r6aRZVa1tigjc8o2_400.jpg
of me
http://66.media.tumblr.com/7449d372683ba4f6a97466044729ed3d/tumblr_ny6r6aRZVa1tigjc8o7_400.png
being a
http://65.media.tumblr.com/e6e9c6965ce2b2833ad46e007b519078/tumblr_ny6qqdI2ab1tigjc8o7_400.jpg
Xenophile
https://67.media.tumblr.com/5046863ec538c850fb6a6578fe5baf38/tumblr_o8cnfzUtRs1tigjc8o1_400.jpg

though to be fair, any digimon that do get sexualized is at least an Adult, no child digimon gets officially sexualized. Though if you are refferring to human character, Nene from Xros manga gets sexualized...I miss Manga Nene, she was so much fun.

Oh yeah, I remember this thread. Why do so many threads on this board turn into discussions about sexualized women?

Because people are idiots?

myconius
06-06-2016, 01:58 PM
i wonder if this will actually catch on and maybe we'd also see the Kirby O'Neil files as well?

maybe follow his time spent as a Mutant bat laying guano around the city?

oldmanwinters
09-27-2017, 01:22 PM
Now, here at the end of all things... I wonder what ever happened with this project.

CyberCubed
09-27-2017, 01:27 PM
Thankfully killed off/canceled, what it was.

FredWolfLeonardo
09-27-2017, 02:39 PM
I was looking more forward to this than Rise of the tmnt but eh, whats done is done now.

Ninjinister
09-27-2017, 03:25 PM
Now, here at the end of all things... I wonder what ever happened with this project.

I was wondering the same thing a few.days ago but when I remembered what happened in the topic I had no wish to resurrect this trainwreck.

IndigoErth
09-27-2017, 03:50 PM
So this is officially out?

Not what I'd want for a real series, but as a continuing series of shorts seen during commercials it could be okay.

oldmanwinters
09-27-2017, 03:52 PM
I was wondering the same thing a few.days ago but when I remembered what happened in the topic I had no wish to resurrect this trainwreck.

Ah, yeah... :tconfuse:
I had stopped reading after soon after the initial news report. How did this thread not get locked?

So this is officially out?

Not what I'd want for a real series, but as a continuing series of shorts seen during commercials it could be okay.

Nah, I'm assuming this whole project has been dead in the water for some time.