Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep24: Dinosaur Seen In The Sewer

[Vicky82]

New Episode is up online a week early on the Nick Website.

2KNqymbX7AM

So discuss away

Hope I don't get into trouble for doing this. Oops I made a mistake, it's meant to say 24 not 23 sorry hopefully Banshee or the other mods edit this.

[yellowmario27]

Is it still up? Or did it get taken down

[Vicky82]

I assume it's still up, people still talking about it on Tumblr.

[yellowmario27]

okay! thanks for the heads up! Will watch as soon as i can. hope there's more discussion by then :trazz:

[victory_angel]

I'm unable to watch it, since it has the premium subscriber lock on the video. So anyone who sees it please keep any talk of this episode in spoiler tabs until next Sunday.

[yellowmario27]

I'm unable to watch it, since it has the premium subscriber lock on the video. So anyone who sees it please keep any talk of this episode in spoiler tabs until next Sunday.

Wouldn't it be easier if people who didn't want to be spoiled not visit this thread?

[IndigoErth]

I'm unable to watch it, since it has the premium subscriber lock on the video. So anyone who sees it please keep any talk of this episode in spoiler tabs until next Sunday.
Arg. In that case it will be the same for me since they aren't friendly with my cable people. (Not that I wouldn't have waited for it to air on tv first anyhow.)
Wouldn't it be easier if people who didn't want to be spoiled not visit this thread?
Works for me, but hope people keep spoilers in this section.

[Vicky82]

It's up on a different site, i'm watching it now :D

[Vicky82]

Wow that episode was awesome.

WTF!!!!! WTF!!!!!! Zog killed himself, we have a suicide in a cartoon

[neatoman]

Wow that episode was awesome.

WTF!!!!! WTF!!!!!! Zog killed himself, we have a suicide in a cartoon

He did back in the other cartoon as well, nothing new here.

[Vicky82]

He did back in the other cartoon as well, nothing new here.

Well that was different, he killed himself to save the turtles.

Raph was helping him and tried to give him a hand but he didn't take it and he just let go of the edge

[Haalix]

Lion King reference when Zog fell down...
Kinda sad he died though, but figuring he died in the 2k3 series, it wasn't very surprising. Just the way he died.

Any one else thinks Crognard dying wasn't a forshadowing for Zog, but for someone else in the TMNT season 3 Finale?

And are spoiler tags really necessary? This is the ep. discussion thread after all. Spoilers are to be expected.

[Mew]

Can't wait! :D:D:D

[Vicky82]

The Crognard death is foreshadowing in the season final.

Found a disturbing moment

https://41.media.tumblr.com/1436e5dc5e1e5aa3453febcc1d978fd1/tumblr_nuomgyb0ZB1rmhk25o1_500.png

:o:o

[TigerClaw]

New Episode is up online a week early on the Nick Website.

2KNqymbX7AM

So discuss away

Hope I don't get into trouble for doing this. Oops I made a mistake, it's meant to say 24 not 23 sorry hopefully Banshee or the other mods edit this.
Here's the direct link, Unfortunately, I cannot watch it cause Comcast is not on the list of providers.
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-324-full-episode.html

[GoldMutant]

Looks like I need to wait, I can't get in. :ohwell:

Might as well ask because I brought it up yesterday, but how well does Raph fair in this episode?

[Redworld96]

The Crognard death is foreshadowing in the season final.

Found a disturbing moment

https://41.media.tumblr.com/1436e5dc5e1e5aa3453febcc1d978fd1/tumblr_nuomgyb0ZB1rmhk25o1_500.png

:o:o

I dont know if they are expecting a wedding, or even a child, I prefer not to think about it xD But reading this I remembered those people who were mad because Apritello was "bestiality" xD If the kiss of April to Donnie was, according to them, bestiality, then what is this?

[CyberCubed]

Animation looked much better in this episode, did they raise the budget?

[victory_angel]

:tsick::tsick::tsick:I dont know if they are expecting a wedding, or even a child, I prefer not to think about it xD But reading this I remembered those people who were mad because Apritello was "bestiality" xD If the kiss of April to Donnie was, according to them, bestiality, then what is this?

Usually when someone says their expecting it means someone has a bun in the oven. So in other words from the look of things, BF is preggers. So well....I'm going to go throw up....about something else. (Races to the bath room)

[Redworld96]

Usually when someone says their expecting it means someone has a bun in the oven. So in other words from the look of things, BF is preggers.

Thanks for the aclaration, I am not american so sometimes I have speculate what is the meaning of some expressions ^^

[Allio]

been a bit since we had an episode this good, though I admit I like more the tragic tale of the original Zog more.

[Powder]

Holy shell, that was by far the best episode of the season! Wow!

Always happy to see more Mutanimals, Rockwell especially.

Clever of them to use Raph's Vision Quest outfit as a nod to his hooded attire from RTNY.

"Gotta admit, he's good with his hands!" Isn't that a line from TMNT 3 regarding the blacksmith in Japan? :tlol:

The Kraang expressing fear was hilarious. Goes to show what a true terror the Triceratons are throughout the galaxy. Yet, they seek peace? Hmm!

Loved seeing the NES joypad with Zog's gear & seeing that Leonardo hasn't lost his geekiness after all the crap he's been through.

"Venkman was here" in the Statue Of Liberty, no less! Yooooooo whattup Ghostbusters references!

[JTH]

"Venkman was here" in the Statue Of Liberty, no less! Yooooooo whattup Ghostbusters references!
Whoops, I guess the crew were never informed that the TMNT/Ghostbusters crossover was going to take place in parallel universes. Awkward... lol

Oh well. Now I can just have some fun and decide where the comic story can fall into the show continuity. :D

[Vicky82]

That Dragon in the Crognard cartoon looks like Tiamat from Dungeons and Dragons (cartoon).

The animation was amazing in this episode, especially in space, it was breathtaking.

I loved the fight on top of the Statue of Liberty.

[Ninturtle]

Anyone else wondering how the turtles will take on the triceratons since they're so strong in this version.

[Papenbrook]

Anyone else wondering how the turtles will take on the triceratons since they're so strong in this version.

Deus Ex Machina.

[neatoman]

The Crognard death is foreshadowing in the season final.

Found a disturbing moment

https://41.media.tumblr.com/1436e5dc5e1e5aa3453febcc1d978fd1/tumblr_nuomgyb0ZB1rmhk25o1_500.png

:o:o

So will they be six fingered fat men or hairy apes?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I hate that they lock the episodes so non-members can't view them. if people don't have cable or satellite, how do they expect us to watch it (without using illegal means, of course)?

[yellowmario27]

I hate that they lock the episodes so non-members can't view them. if people don't have cable or satellite, how do they expect us to watch it (without using illegal means, of course)?

they want you to become a member :tgrin:

[TigerClaw]

I hate that they lock the episodes so non-members can't view them. if people don't have cable or satellite, how do they expect us to watch it (without using illegal means, of course)?
It sucks even more when the provider you use isn't on the list, so people using comcast are screwed.

[matteso586]

I wonder if this is the episode where Mondo Gecko and Muckman get recruited into the Mighty Mutanimals. And what is the reason for the latter's recruitment? He and Joe are not even mutant animals.

[Powder]

I wonder if this is the episode where Mondo Gecko and Muckman get recruited into the Mighty Mutanimals. And what is the reason for the latter's recruitment? He and Joe are not even mutant animals.

Huh? Why would you think that? This is an episode about Zog the Triceraton & everyone in this thread has already discussed its contents given it was leaked today.

Why would they be recruited, though? A Triceraton invasion seems reason enough to me. They need all the help they can get. & last I checked, reptiles/humans are animals, too. Hell, there's already a reptile & primate on the team, so it's hardly a stretch at all.

[TurtleTitan97]

Hands down the best Raph episode by far. As well as one of the best of the season. Never even saw the Zog twist coming.

Only downside? That final episode of Crognard! :( Worst. Episode. Ever!

[IndigoErth]

The Crognard death is foreshadowing in the season final.

Found a disturbing moment

https://41.media.tumblr.com/1436e5dc5e1e5aa3453febcc1d978fd1/tumblr_nuomgyb0ZB1rmhk25o1_500.png

:o:o
Avoiding spoilers (so sorry if my comments are out of sync with current discussion or something) but just saw that elsewhere online...

:lol: Just, wow. Back in the Bigfoot ep I'd tried to just assume that Bigfoot's affections for "The Finger" and wish to take care of him was more innocent than that. Guess not. o.O (Granted I guess it could be a different Bigfoot and tabloid fiction.)

[Sabacooza]

WOW! Now That's what I'm talking about! What an awesome Raph centric episode! It's too bad it took 24 episodes to get to it. Would've been nice to have a few more Raph episodes like this peppered throughout this season to balance it out. Kudos to Todd Casey. You did good man, you did good.:D

[Machias Banshee]

So discuss away

Hope I don't get into trouble for doing this. Oops I made a mistake, it's meant to say 24 not 23 sorry hopefully Banshee or the other mods edit this.

You thread-napping conniving turdlet!


...nah, this is fine. :lol: I'll sticky this too.

[matteso586]

Huh? Why would you think that? This is an episode about Zog the Triceraton & everyone in this thread has already discussed its contents given it was leaked today.

Why would they be recruited, though? A Triceraton invasion seems reason enough to me. They need all the help they can get. & last I checked, reptiles/humans are animals, too. Hell, there's already a reptile & primate on the team, so it's hardly a stretch at all.

Muckman is not a reptile.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

I dont know if they are expecting a wedding, or even a child, I prefer not to think about it xD But reading this I remembered those people who were mad because Apritello was "bestiality" xD If the kiss of April to Donnie was, according to them, bestiality, then what is this?

Technically, Bigfoot could be another subspecies of human/primate, as a opposed to a reptile, so-

*is slapped*

Ahem, I'll have to watch this sometime, cool that we get another episode that references the Mirage comics directly.

[Mugen_Jin18]

Awesome episode, Lance Henrikson is perfect for Zog! I love how this series has great actors voice the characters. I mean seriously, Lewis Black, Danny Trejo, James Hong & even Robert Englund! I really hope they keep up with this trend.

[miru]

Muckman is not a reptile.

Muckman was a human. It is also plausible he has decaying animal remains as components of him.

[Mugen_Jin18]

Muckman is not a reptile.
Right....but he is/was human though. I think that is what Powder is getting at. Also with Rockwell being a primate, technically there already is a form of human on the team...Primates being sort of sub-human in nature.

[Powder]

Muckman is not a reptile.

No sh*t, Sherlock. I was talking about Mondo. I even said Muckman was a human. Reading comprehension, get some.

[Autbot_Benz]

Great Episode loved the Ghostbusters 2 reference in the Statue of Liberty. Every time I see Rockwell with that helmet on it just gets me peeved at the playmates toy. But ya all the usual Raph complainers need to watch this episode.

[Sabacooza]

Great Episode loved the Ghostbusters 2 reference in the Statue of Liberty. Every time I see Rockwell with that helmet on it just gets me peeved at the playmates toy. But ya all the usual Raph complainers need to watch this episode.This was a fantastic episode for sure but one really awesome Raph episode out of 26 doesn't quite cut it.

[CyberCubed]

This was a fantastic episode for sure but one really awesome Raph episode out of 26 doesn't quite cut it.

Raph has had many great episodes and moments in other episodes that didn't star him.

[Groverman62]

Guys please dont start a flamewar

[Ninjinister]

I wonder if this is the episode where Mondo Gecko and Muckman get recruited into the Mighty Mutanimals. And what is the reason for the latter's recruitment? He and Joe are not even mutant animals.

Mondo and Ray were the only mutants on the original Mutanimals and the current roster in IDW includes Mutagen Man. It's not like there isn't precedence.

[xenopokemon]

I've got a question. We have the space arc coming up so anyone who can offer some clarification on this feel free: Armaggon is an alien shark with a metal shark suit that can presumably float, probably has a whole race or could be last of his kind. Newtralizer and Mona Lisa are Salamandarians, and then we have the Triceratons. How are they all going to relate to each other? My thought is that the Triceratons are the guardians of peace, despite how radical they seem to be. Salamandarians are either just equal residents of space or bounty hunters. Then Armaggon could also be a bounty hunter of sorts but could be focused on the revival of his race, if he is the last of his kind. Thoughts?

Well that was different, he killed himself to save the turtles.

Raph was helping him and tried to give him a hand but he didn't take it and he just let go of the edge

My Feels. Almost cried. Just after Zog regains his sanity and completes his mission, he "dies". Not to mention Raph cared about him even after one night.

What really touched my heart was Zog's speech about how humanity is filled with lies. That was straight up poetry. Right before he started beating the shell out of the turtles.

Looks like I need to wait, I can't get in. :ohwell:

Might as well ask because I brought it up yesterday, but how well does Raph fair in this episode?

This is the best we've seen Raph all season IMO. Nice and genuine, and not too much of a hothead to the point where it gets annoying and detracts from his overall character.

[GoldMutant]

Well xeno, thank you. :) I finally got around to watching the episode today.

While I do consider it one of the best episodes this season, I really wish you know who didn't do what he did. :ohwell: I was liking that character.

Barring that, I just wish there was an extra scene of why Raph wearing his Vision Quest gear again. At least Leo was justified, but I guess it feels weird with no explanation. My opinion may change, but for now this was an excellent episode.

Also, anyone notice that every episode 24 of a season is one of the best of the season?

[matteso586]

Since the Turtles are aware that the Kraang are back, I think they should consider leaving the lair.

Also, I think that the Kraang are this shows equivalent to The Federation.

[Meliwen]

Great episode! I loved the return of geeky Leo. Plenty of little moments that made me chuckle, especially Mikey's line about the narrator and how the Kraang kept trying to get away from Zog.

From Zog stepping on the Kraang to his willingness to kill himself for the empire, I like how the Triceratons are showed as a more serious threat than the more comically inclined Kraang. I think they did a good job in that regard, for setting up the mood of the Triceratons before their arrival.

Also Zog was almost like Slash 2.0 for Raph. He bonds with a huge, strong guy over their love of beating things up and a common goal, but then they try to murder his family, reject his friendship and then fall off a building. (Raph: "Take my hand! Don't you let go. Reeeeaacchh!") I consider Slash and Destroy and this episode to be Raph's strongest episodes, so it's a bit interesting to see some similarities between them.


Barring that, I just wish there was an extra scene of why Raph wearing his Vision Quest gear again. At least Leo was justified, but I guess it feels weird with no explanation. My opinion may change, but for now this was an excellent episode.

I was under the impression the Vision Quest gear was special and for special occasions, so I thought it was a bit weird as well that Raph would wear it just for a routine patrol. It kinda loses it's importance in that regard, since otherwise it by itself could become a symbol that the turtles are about to get serious. But oh well, it's still nice to see it used again.

[xenopokemon]

While I do consider it one of the best episodes this season, I really wish you know who didn't do what he did. :ohwell: I was liking that character. ?

Series is getting a lot more edgy. A lot of death. Exquisite and excruciating death. :)

Do you think that Zog killed himself because he didn't wanna fall into enemy hands? Or perhaps it was because of his "honor", that he was too proud and he just said "sod it"? I think it was because he had been disproven on his previous claim, that Earthlings were nothing but liars. But when kindness was shown to him by an Earthling, he was a bit surprised but just did not want to show any form of emotion to him.

I'll miss him too, I love Lance Henriksen, especially in Aliens.

[Werecat]

Series is getting a lot more edgy. A lot of death. Exquisite and excruciating death. :)

Do you think that Zog killed himself because he didn't wanna fall into enemy hands? Or perhaps it was because of his "honor", that he was too proud and he just said "sod it"? I think it was because he had been disproven on his previous claim, that Earthlings were nothing but liars. But when kindness was shown to him by an Earthling, he was a bit surprised but just did not want to show any form of emotion to him.

I'll miss him too, I love Lance Henriksen, especially in Aliens.
I'll miss Zog too he is a good character. But I wonder if he has tech or dna that helped him to be impervious to Dr Rockwell's mind thingy which I think might end up helping the turtles crack the Brain Worm code. or not.

[marcelangelo]

Deus Ex Machina.

hahahaha, you nailed it, kraken!..right on the head;)

[DVD]

Great episode.
The Triceritons look absolutely brilliant. Best design for a villain so far, ands it's going to be so cool that we are going to see more of them....very soon.

[kelligrafie]

Wonder if they put the Statue Of Liberty in the episode to improve their chances of getting an award? :lol:

Eligibility for our prestigious award
* Show you love America by including big American iconic landmark
* That's it

Didn't like this episode as much as Fourfold but I was on such a high, maybe I should've waited the full week to see it. My own fault really.

[VaughnMichael]

Man that was freaking awesome! I can not wait for the rest of the episodes.
The detail on everything is so crazy.
I really love having so many characters in the show and the fact that they keep coming back unlike the 80's toon.

[Eurydemus]

Definitely one of this season's best, in my opinion. I chuckled more than I should have at the whole Crognard thing and especially at Leo being dumbstruck by the fact there's no follow-up movie. Seth did a great job at delivering his comical lines this episode.

And the Triceratons? Looks like they're shaping up to be even more menacing than their 2003 counterparts. The brief glimpse we have Mozar has me giddy with anticipation.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Not to mention Raph cared about him even after one night.

I was just browsing this thread and saw this sentence. Go ahead, take a look at it out of context... :tlol:

[TurFlytle]

And the Triceratons? Looks like they're shaping up to be even more menacing than their 2003 counterparts. The brief glimpse we have Mozar has me giddy with anticipation.

Wait, that was Mozar? Isn't he supposed to have a metal beak, a broken horn and a scarred face? He said "Commander, take me to this planet" which means he probably isn't commander. Is his name perhaps in the credits?

[aliena]

Now this is the Raph that I just love to pieces. He was so amazing in this episode. I loved the others geeking out over there not being a continuation of Crognard. I'm curious what the new show next season will be.

I didn't like Zog as much as the 2k3 version, but I did like that he realized who he was at the end. Could it be that he maybe survived somehow?

These last episodes have been some of my all time favorites, let's hope the rest are as good or better.

[Eurydemus]

Wait, that was Mozar? Isn't he supposed to have a metal beak, a broken horn and a scarred face? He said "Commander, take me to this planet" which means he probably isn't commander. Is his name perhaps in the credits?

You know, it might not be him after all. I completely forgot about the metal beak!

Still excited though. I think this is shaping to be a great season finale.

[Jo X]

Hi guys! Me again - a non-native-English-speaker /:)

There are some points in this episode that I could not understand when Zog talked:

1. The beacon... orders must triangulate now.

2. All explosions zero on mission status!

3. Up for the beacon!

Can somebody please tell me what did he mean?
Thank you in advance!! :tlove:

[TurFlytle]

Hi guys! Me again - a non-native-English-speaker /:)

There are some points in this episode that I could not understand when Zog talked:

1. The beacon... orders must triangulate now.

2. All explosions zero on mission status!

3. Up for the beacon!

Can somebody please tell me what did he mean?
Thank you in advance!! :tlove:

1. I think he's just asking for his orders next after he found the Kraang.

2. He's just saying there were no bombs in the facility.

3. This is obvious, he's saying he's planting the beacon up there.

Plus, he had no nitrogen for months, so he might have some loopy talk as well.

[Jo X]

1. I think he's just asking for his orders next after he found the Kraang.

2. He's just saying there were no bombs in the facility.

3. This is obvious, he's saying he's planting the beacon up there.

Plus, he had no nitrogen for months, so he might have some loopy talk as well.

Thank you so much!!~~~
Yeah...the loopy part is the most confusing coz I was trying to understand each single word :P

[MrTrikey]

I didn't like Zog as much as the 2k3 version, but I did like that he realized who he was at the end. Could it be that he maybe survived somehow?

Oh, I'd count on it, actually. Loopy time shenanigans being involved or no.

Anyway, decent episode in my eyes. The most interesting thing was that they went forward to suggest what likely would've happened if Zog actually lived long enough to become lucid again. Of COURSE he was going to go back to his mission and be more than a bit miffed that a small mutant turtle was playing him like a harp.

Good going, Raph. Your irresponsible actions led to the Earth being doomed! :D

[DVD]

Well, I've watched it three times now. It's not getting old at all.
I don't see Zog as being done in at all. He has to return.

[CyberCubed]

Well, I've watched it three times now. It's not getting old at all.
I don't see Zog as being done in at all. He has to return.

He's dead, just like Zog's fate is to always die.

[TigerClaw]

Watching the episode right now, so far so good.

[Vicky82]

IGN review up

8.5

Was hoping it was going to be over 9.0, I hope he gives the season final a 9.0 or over.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/09/20/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-dinosaur-seen-in-sewers-review

[pannoni1]

After watching the finale after this, this was a good setup episode for it that leads to a crucial moment towards the end where Zog turns against Earth. The battle inside the Statue of Liberty was cool, even if the actual staircase is narrower than it appears on screen here. Quite the irony though with the Crognard and the Barbarians finale compared to what I just watched today.

Of course, the Statue of Liberty was also the centerpiece in the Turtles in Time 16-bit/arcade games and was a minor feature in Once Upon a Time Machine.

Overall: 9/10

[BubblyShell22]

Pretty awesome episode. Loved how Raph befriended Zog and tried to lead him just as Leo did in the 2003 series and how they bonded. Too bad Zog turned against them and died at the end though. My heart broke when I saw Raph's face after Zog fell. So sad! But I loved seeing the Mutanimals in this. Also loved the PPG reference when Rockwell told the Turtles where Raph was and Mikey said, "Thanks, Narrator" referencing how Tom Kenny voiced the Narrator in PPG. "Venkman Was Here" was also cool to see. I love how this sets up the finale as a whole and how the Triceratons aren't easy to beat. Should be a good finale though I'll have to wait until Sunday to watch it since if I watch it now, my Internet minutes will rack up, and I don't want that.

[evan2000]

"Thank you... narrator?"

Isn't this getting pretty close to breaking the 4th wall already? :trazz:

I noticed the 3D rendering and some voice work have been tweaked a little compared to the clip (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=52952) we got from SDCC:
- bubbles were added to the water where Zog was submerged in the pool
- Zog looks wet as he came out from the water
- Zog voice are more shaky (eg. the part he charged towards Raph yelling "COMMAND!") and more growls were added
- The Kraang secret base found by Zog used to have warmer lighting, it was replaced by a dimmer, cool-white light source
- "Tri...Tri-Tri-Tri-Triceraton" was further processed to contain an audio glitch

Really loved how the Triceratons were portrayed as such a deadly threat by the Kraang. One of them even tried to jump off the platform as soon as he saw Zog, but it was too late as Zog already grabbed his robot body and smashing it to pieces... :teek:

Zog turning against Raph surprised me, considering how he was portrayed as a hero in the 2003 series. His eventual fate should have been expected for people who are familiar with Mirage comic and/or the 2003 series, but still, the way it happened this time was exceptionally dark for a "kids' show"

[Xav]

Plus, he had no nitrogen for months, so he might have some loopy talk as well.How the hell did he not have nitrogen for months? He was on Earth where 78% of the air is nitrogen.

[IndigoErth]

Hmm... maybe he was just experiencing something similar to altitude sickness; didn't kill him, but was a bit too thin for his actual need.



Anyway, finally saw this. Not bad, a little different which is nice. Just kind of middle of the road for me, nothing really stood out, but wasn't under-impressed either. Liked the inclusion of the Statue of Liberty, surprising that it hadn't turned up until now.

[tmnt_LRDM]

This episode was absolutely fantastic! I especially love the role Raph played in it. Zog was fantastic! It's good to finally see the triceratons.

However there was something that didn't really make sense to me. At the beginning of the episode they kept asking stuff like "the mysterious Dino-Man is actually real?" I don't remember them ever talking about this in previous episodes so why is this being brought up all of a sudden? Did I miss something, or no?

[OrangeNinja1987]

This episode was absolutely fantastic! I especially love the role Raph played in it. Zog was fantastic! It's good to finally see the triceratons.

However there was something that didn't really make sense to me. At the beginning of the episode they kept asking stuff like "the mysterious Dino-Man is actually real?" I don't remember them ever talking about this in previous episodes so why is this being brought up all of a sudden? Did I miss something, or no?

Earlier in the episode, there was a couple news stories shown of a mysterious dinosaur creature found in the sewers. The turtles heard about it and that's why Mikey knew of Zog before he saw him.

Anyway, absolutely fantastic episode! For a good part of season 3, and especially these last few, the episodes have been in a very hit-and-miss pattern for me. However, this was a very strong hit. It was just incredible! 10/10
I loved the new story for Zog, with him not taking the turtles' side once he regained sanity. The detail on the Triceratons is beautiful, and I just instantly love them, being the paleontology nut that I am. I love that right now I'm in the beginning of season 3 of the 2k3 show (watching it for my first time) and I just finished the huge Triceraton invasion in it. I think I like the 2k12 Triceratons better by a little.
There were three deaths in this episode! Crognard was eaten by a dragon (my mouth fell open when I heard the crunching, chewing noises. I love it when this show gets away with stuff like that). Then Zog stepped on a Kraang. And, of course, Zog dies, even by committing suicide. I love the type of episodes that don't try to appeal to the youngest fans (who shouldn't be watching this version that is obviously for 9+ or so), as the darker, more grim episodes are always much more suspenseful, emotional, and engaging.
Also, Great Raphael episode. I think the only other episode he's had this season was Clash of the Mutanimals, and I hardly consider that a Raph-centric episode seeing as Leo did all the hero work. This episode was long overdue for his character and I hope Raph has many more centric episodes in seasons 4 and 5.
The ending fight was beautiful and it was amazing to see the turtles on the Statue of Liberty. It's always great to see famous New York landmarks in the show, such as Coney Island.
Final thoughts: Loved Zog, loved the action, loved the jokes, loved the seriousness, loved Raph's return to form, loved the dinosaurs, and I loved that brilliant portable bubble trap thing!
My only complaint is that Rockwell was in this episode, who I absolutely despise, yet his inclusion did nothing to lower my 10/10.

[Turtle-X]

"Venkman was here" in the Statue Of Liberty, no less! Yooooooo whattup Ghostbusters references!

i thought that was pretty awesome too.

[zipper]

This episode was great! Season 3 has been very difficult for me to watch because I keep thinking, is this one going to suck? I tried watching the season finale online but apparently nick's site doesn't like my phone. Anyone have a fix for that?

[old_hob88]

Holy shell, that was by far the best episode of the season! Wow!

Always happy to see more Mutanimals, Rockwell especially.

Clever of them to use Raph's Vision Quest outfit as a nod to his hooded attire from RTNY.

"Gotta admit, he's good with his hands!" Isn't that a line from TMNT 3 regarding the blacksmith in Japan? :tlol:

The Kraang expressing fear was hilarious. Goes to show what a true terror the Triceratons are throughout the galaxy. Yet, they seek peace? Hmm!

Loved seeing the NES joypad with Zog's gear & seeing that Leonardo hasn't lost his geekiness after all the crap he's been through.

"Venkman was here" in the Statue Of Liberty, no less! Yooooooo whattup Ghostbusters references!

Didn't notice the "Venkman was here." That's awesome though!!

[old_hob88]

Plus, he had no nitrogen for months, so he might have some loopy talk as well.

I wish they would have gone the Nitrogen/Sulfur route for the Triceraton atmosphere. Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, so there's plenty of nitrogen to go around for the Triceratons. That irked me this episode.

Other than that, I thought it was excellent. This and The Fourfold Trap are definitely high points of this season. Season 3 hasn't been all bad, but it's definitely been more mediocre than not.

[JH24]

That was a well-written episode with a very emotional ending. I loved Raph's portrayal here, it's great to see a different side of him.

The ending was hearthbreaking. Zog choose suicide instead of accepting Raph's hand. I felt so sorry for Raph here, but it also showed how determined a Triceraton is and how much pride they have. Nothing Raph could have said or done would have changed his mind.

[Lil Karai]

Love the Triceraton artwork! Good episode!

[NoName999]

I wish they would have gone the Nitrogen/Sulfur route for the Triceraton atmosphere. Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, so there's plenty of nitrogen to go around for the Triceratons. That irked me this episode.


Along with that I've wondered how in the holy hell did the Kraang make THE STATUE OF LIBERTY a hideout?

I mean, it's a major tourist attraction that's gonna be patrolled 24/7. Even if they could have used the "closed for repairs" excuse, that could only go for so long.

[OrangeNinja1987]

Along with that I've wondered how in the holy hell did the Kraang make THE STATUE OF LIBERTY a hideout?

I mean, it's a major tourist attraction that's gonna be patrolled 24/7. Even if they could have used the "closed for repairs" excuse, that could only go for so long.

I don't know much about the structure of the Statue of Liberty or where tourists are allowed to go in it, but maybe the base was in a part where tourists aren't allowed and servellience is at a minimum. And the Kraang do have portals, so that explains how they can get there without being seen.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I wondered that myself. Wouldn't surprise me if they made the White House a base next.

[ToTheNines]

Well The Kraang did have complete control over NYC for several months, that seems like a good time to do something like that.

[THGhost]

Very good adaptation of the Mirage comic. Zog was fantastic! Shame about Crognard though :P

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Loved this ep! Some cool points- Crognard's death- So funny! The expressions on the faces of his friends.... And the dragon was indeed D&D cartoon's Tiamat! (Slightly altered, of course.) Also- "Venkman was here" LOL! Guess they had to leave their mark on her after they put her back on her pedestal. And the joystick- I squee'ed when I saw that one!

Zog's death was- depressing. Honor is great and all, and I get loyalty to your people, but choosing death over help from a friend? I don't get that mindset. I just can't see anyone's self-preservation instinct letting go that easily. Maybe it's just me. Sucks that they got the signal, though. Was hoping it got demolished too fast. Invasion #3, on the way!

[SophieDem]

If they ever make Raph lose a friend like that again I'm gonna be pissed. That was depressing to me. Only this time Zog won't return.

It was a good episode but something felt odd about it. I just a felt a bit rushed this whole Triceraton thing. It was so out of the blue for me. I mean the Kraang coming back, dino-men attacking the Earth. I expected at least two episodes to prepare for the season finale but I'm sure that's just me.

[Klunk1234]

It was another solid episode. Raph looks great here. Love the Triceratons' looks.

[Donny's computer84]

:D I like setup of the episode, has good action from all of the Turtles.