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Y2Bogus
09-28-2015, 06:05 AM
I scanned the board quickly and saw nothing about this so forgive me if I missed a post, but I had purchased the Turtle Power Documentary in digital form from Cinema Now, which is Bestbuy's ultraviolet retail front.

Just last week, I wanted to watch it again, and saw that it was still listed in my library, but when I try to play it, it takes me to a 404 error page.

I assumed it to be some kind of glitch, so I opened a trouble ticket with Cinema Now. Two days later, I got a response telling me that Cinema Now had lost the rights to the video and for me to have a nice day.

This was a video that I spent 16 bucks on, so I was not about to have a nice day, so I pushed the issue and demanded a refund, which I did get in the form of Cinema Now credit, so it wasn't a total loss, but it was a real annoyance.

Heads up to anyone who purchased the video in digital form, check your libraries to see if it's still there and working, and demand a refund if it isn't.

Storm Eagle
09-28-2015, 06:41 AM
And people wonder why others still buy physical media.

Gyt Kaliba
09-28-2015, 08:16 AM
And people wonder why others still buy physical media.

Exactly. That and I do prefer to have something on my shelf that I can loan to people or something if ever need be. I'm still somewhat grumbly about all the games I have to get digitally.

TigerClaw
09-28-2015, 10:05 AM
I scanned the board quickly and saw nothing about this so forgive me if I missed a post, but I had purchased the Turtle Power Documentary in digital form from Cinema Now, which is Bestbuy's ultraviolet retail front.

Just last week, I wanted to watch it again, and saw that it was still listed in my library, but when I try to play it, it takes me to a 404 error page.

I assumed it to be some kind of glitch, so I opened a trouble ticket with Cinema Now. Two days later, I got a response telling me that Cinema Now had lost the rights to the video and for me to have a nice day.

This was a video that I spent 16 bucks on, so I was not about to have a nice day, so I pushed the issue and demanded a refund, which I did get in the form of Cinema Now credit, so it wasn't a total loss, but it was a real annoyance.

Heads up to anyone who purchased the video in digital form, check your libraries to see if it's still there and working, and demand a refund if it isn't.
Wow, fortunately I have the physical copy of it.

This is one of the reasons why you can't rely on digital downloads of movies.

plastroncafe
09-28-2015, 10:13 AM
If you can't save it locally, then you're not buying digital media. You're renting it.

Mayhem
09-28-2015, 11:15 AM
You're renting it when you buy it physically too, check the T&Cs associated with most copyright material. Difference is, you have the right to resell the product and "pass on" the license to someone else.

Y2Bogus
09-28-2015, 02:14 PM
You're renting it when you buy it physically too, check the T&Cs associated with most copyright material. Difference is, you have the right to resell the product and "pass on" the license to someone else.

I'd guess the difference is that the studios can't come into your home and take back your discs.

That's not to say I'm not a proponent of digital media, I redeem every ultraviolet code that comes with every movie I buy, and friends and families give me codes too, so I have a nice size digital library that cost me really nothing more than I spent on the media anyway.

But when things like this happen, it does make me question the system.

IndigoErth
09-28-2015, 06:20 PM
:( Wow, that really sucks, esp after paying that much. With the chance that someone may lose a digital purchase, they could at least be cheaper than that.

And that is seriously a big reason why I haven't really gotten into the digital thing. If I purchase something that way via my cable provider, but sooner or later change provider, I guess I lose those purchases? (Heck, not to mention if the cable is out, at least you can still watch the DVDs/Blu-Rays that you own. If everything goes digital then we can forget about that.)

TigerClaw
09-28-2015, 07:51 PM
The documentary is still available on itunes however.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/turtle-power-definitive-history/id902628200

Leo656
09-28-2015, 08:47 PM
And people wonder why others still buy physical media.

Nailed it. F*ck digital anything, if I can't hold it in my hands I'm not paying for it.

MikeandRaph87
09-28-2015, 08:58 PM
Nailed it. F*ck digital anything, if I can't hold it in my hands I'm not paying for it.

I second that. If comics or tv/movies go 100 % digital then I will not buy again. If it is not physical then it cannot be truly owned and we have to rely on tech which will change and could be erased. Owning a digital copy that says it will expire in a year is pointless.

plastroncafe
09-29-2015, 09:15 AM
Eh, I like digital media for a lot of things. Means I get to enjoy the stories AND support the creators without sacrificing the physical space in my house. If I really like something, however, I buy a hard copy of it.

Storm Eagle
09-29-2015, 10:10 AM
Even though I was going to buy the Turtle Power documentary on DVD, I rented a digital copy from Vudu just so I could see it in HD. I tend to do that. Anyway I still hold out hope that Netflix (in the US) might offer it for streaming.

Sometimes I think I'd buy the complete Victorious series on digital from them, but now I'm not sure I want to bother.

PangolinFeets
09-29-2015, 10:14 AM
Eh, I like digital media for a lot of things. Means I get to enjoy the stories AND support the creators without sacrificing the physical space in my house. If I really like something, however, I buy a hard copy of it.
This. I tend to buy a lot of digital books because I can literally carry a whole library in my pocket.

Roseangelo
09-29-2015, 10:15 AM
Physical media all the way. I've gotten over the actual need to have the thing and see it on a shelf, but this stuff still happens so I don't trust buying anything digital that has any form of DRM.

I just rip my DVDs to a hard drive and put the actual discs in storage.

CyberCubed
09-29-2015, 01:51 PM
Why do so many people complain about shelf space anyway? Unless you literally buy hundreds of DVDs/movie/games a year...there's no reason for you not to have either shelves or a closet to store your stuff.

Roseangelo
09-29-2015, 01:54 PM
Why do so many people complain about shelf space anyway? Unless you literally buy hundreds of DVDs/movie/games a year...there's no reason for you not to have either shelves or a closet to store your stuff.

I live in an apartment where all my shelves are overflowing and all my closets full. All of my physical media (DVDs, CDs) are literally in boxes in the storage bin that is included with my apartment. If that wasn't as generously sized as it is, I'd be screwed.

TigerClaw
09-29-2015, 05:37 PM
I live in an apartment where all my shelves are overflowing and all my closets full. All of my physical media (DVDs, CDs) are literally in boxes in the storage bin that is included with my apartment. If that wasn't as generously sized as it is, I'd be screwed.
to make matters worst, we end up buying Blu-ray version of the DVD movies we already own, which is also adding to the space.

oldmanwinters
09-29-2015, 06:16 PM
to make matters worst, we end up buying Blu-ray version of the DVD movies we already own, which is also adding to the space.

Heh, 1st world problems are the worst! I say just buy the double pack and give the older copies to Goodwill. Some folks I know don't even want to keep the DVD copy of their twin packs, but I usually prefer having it due to the greater compatibility of DVD vs. Blu Ray.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-29-2015, 06:28 PM
This is exactly why I prefer physical copies. Digital can be easily "lost" if your media player or whatever you're using to play it on goes caput, and even if you have a backup in place, if cable or whatever goes out, or you change providers, you no longer have it. We've been spoiled to the "instant gratification and portability" of digital everything, to the point where some snub their noses at actually owning physical media at all. As if it means that you're backward, when in fact it's simply a lack of trust in the so-called" progress" of the medium.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-29-2015, 06:29 PM
This is exactly why I prefer physical copies. Digital can be easily "lost" if your media player or whatever you're using to play it on goes caput, and even if you have a backup in place, if cable or whatever goes out, or you change providers, you no longer have it. We've been spoiled to the "instant gratification and portability" of digital everything, to the point where some snub their noses at actually owning physical media at all. As if it means that you're backward, when in fact it's simply a lack of trust in the so-called" progress" of the medi

CyberCubed
09-29-2015, 08:56 PM
I actually feel sorry for people buying $59.99 videogames digitally more than anything. Videogames cost a lot more than movies and that stuff is digital and could be lost in the future since Sony and Nintendo aren't going to give a damn about your digital library years from now.

Leo656
09-29-2015, 09:46 PM
Yeah, to clarify, out of necessity I do have a very small number of games I've downloaded, simply because I really wanted to play them and they simply did not make a physical copy. But I don't like knowing that "something" could happen one day and I'll either never have it again or have to buy it again. It's just an excuse to keep making you pay over and over again for the same damn thing you already had, and I hate that.

I'unno man, we have a fair bit of "stuff" ourselves but all of it fits into two 15x15 rooms. Makes me wonder how much stuff other people have. I'unno. I got some stuff in storage but mostly comics, and they'd easily fit in the room across the hall.

I'unno. :lol: Maybe I'd just rather have More Stuff than More Furniture. I'm only home a few hours a day, I only need one place to sit or whatever. :lol: I guess it's all just about how people choose to use their space.

sdp
09-29-2015, 10:30 PM
You guys are acting like this happens all the time. Unless you're an iOS\android app you don't have much to fear. You can still back those digital items up. There's many ways to do that. Worst case scenario all things live on the internet through piracy.

Leo656
09-29-2015, 10:37 PM
Yeah, no, that's fine, just steal.

Some of us don't believe in that. Shocking, I know.

MikeandRaph87
09-29-2015, 10:40 PM
Just legally purchase a hard copy and problem solved.

Leo, have you joined this site? It seems like something that you would find useful.

http://www.filmaf.com/

Leo656
09-29-2015, 10:47 PM
Nah man I don't generally internet.

sdp
09-29-2015, 11:12 PM
I would not consider stealing if I paid for the content. Technically doing DVDs is illegal to you know.

TigerClaw
09-30-2015, 08:42 AM
The documentary is still available at Vudu.
http://www.vudu.com/movies/#!content/554558/Turtle-Power-The-Definitive-History-of-the-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles

pferreira
10-01-2015, 08:32 AM
GOG games are bought digitally but you can download the installer so you don't have to worry about the games disappearing from their site.

TigerClaw
10-07-2015, 05:43 PM
Just found out that the Turtle Power Documentary is viewable for free on Paramount's Youtube channel.

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