Mona Lisa & characters bios in Season 4

[Shark_Blade]

So um... Nick released some characters bios...

http://i.imgur.com/WUIRe61.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WLZZ0qR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OLqcLvZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uU3dEnP.jpg

and the last one being Mona Lisa..

http://i.imgur.com/QwlDohB.jpg

Like wtf? She scary ugly. How is Raph gonna makeout with her now? :teek:

[TurFlytle]

Where'd you find this? I think I saw these before. I think they're fanmade guessing from the artwork.

[TigerClaw]

Cool! good find, I posted the Mona Lisa bio all over twitter and the TMNT reddit. :)

[Etsyturtle2]

Where'd you find this? I think I saw these before. I think they're fanmade guessing from the artwork.

The art and the verbiage used make it seem fan made. She is the same race... Nick or someone official would probably word that differently.

[Xav]

So they put "Cosmic" in front of the Turtles names and suddenly they are "new characters"? :roll:

[TigerClaw]

So they put "Cosmic" in front of the Turtles names and suddenly they are "new characters"? :roll:
They gotta sell toys you know.

[cartooncrazy4]

Actually a fan made these their name is Mikeyandpizza on tumblr

[TigerClaw]

Actually a fan made these their name is Mikeyandpizza on tumblr
Here
http://mikeyandpizza.tumblr.com/

[Redeemer]

Really cool to see them bring back Mona Lisa to the fandom.
Hopefully they can improve off of her OT counter part.

[Shark_Blade]

I'm still not digging Mona Lisa's style, too animalistic...

Kinda like the frogs and Napolean. Too frog-like in real life. We don't have the turtles looking like red-eared sliders...

Well, at least she's back. Props to Ciro and team.

[Eurydemus]

Haha! Protoss Mikey! Awesome.

[Luckyday]

I'm still not digging Mona Lisa's style, too animalistic...

Kinda like the frogs and Napolean. Too frog-like in real life. We don't have the turtles looking like red-eared sliders...

Well, at least she's back. Props to Ciro and team.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/fa864c178d67bb55f044309c85356f1d/tumblr_nvu3ooUmRb1uuxhjio1_1280.jpg

Doesn't look too bad to me. Heck, I remember how I didn't like Slash's design but I got over it quickly when I saw it in animation.

It may be the same for Mona Lisa.

Edit: Anyone notice that her skin color is a tad darker? Even if she an alien, maybe the design is base on a type of salamander that change colors?

[AlZarkovski]

So um... Nick released some characters bios...


This is fanart by russian fan Alexey Shevcov.

[CyberCubed]

Anyone notice the first official confirmation Mona Lisa is part of Newtralizer's race? We were only guessing before, its confirmed now.

[Etsyturtle2]

Anyone notice the first official confirmation Mona Lisa is part of Newtralizer's race? We were only guessing before, its confirmed now.

Wasn't it confirmed at comic con?

[Ninturtle]

Wasn't it confirmed at comic con?

Yes it was.

[Ninturtle]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/fa864c178d67bb55f044309c85356f1d/tumblr_nvu3ooUmRb1uuxhjio1_1280.jpg

Doesn't look too bad to me. Heck, I remember how I didn't like Slash's design but I got over it quickly when I saw it in animation.

It may be the same for Mona Lisa.

Edit: Anyone notice that her skin color is a tad darker? Even if she an alien, maybe the design is base on a type of salamander that change colors?

Where did you get that image from and are there anymore?

[cookie jar]

Where did you get that image from and are there anymore?

It was posted on Ciro Nieli's Instagram. This is only picture so far.
https://instagram.com/p/8hJOn_hXka/

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome bios, though I don't like that they're calling the Turtles new characters just based on their names. I thought maybe those were bios for the figures.

[Garfield]

I like that design of Mona Lisa.

[TigerClaw]

Here's some pics of Mona Lisa from the clips they shown at NYCC 2015

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5FVsOUcAAdyUU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5FV_8UkAA4XwW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5FXCSU8AA_gv5.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5FXdyVAAAM34k.jpg

I still stand by my theory that, Mikey is gonna be the one who names her Mona Lisa.

the Sal Commander's actual name is Gathrokka, So I'm sure she will have an actual name that's spoken on the episode, Then Mikey jumps in and calls her Mona Lisa.

[MikeandRaph87]

I thoughts Newtrilizer was a mutant all along. Was he a mutant until they decided to make him one of an alien race?

Wyrm an oscure mutant parasite is now a mischievous alien genie? Who would have thought, huh?

[evan2000]

I thoughts Newtrilizer was a mutant all along. Was he a mutant until they decided to make him one of an alien race?

Wyrm an oscure mutant parasite is now a mischievous alien genie? Who would have thought, huh?

Newtrailizer was never a mutant to begin with. He was an alien prisoner of the Kraang locked on earth as seen in Operation: Breakout

Also, cosmic genie :twink:

[TurFlytle]

Also, cosmic genie :twink:

At least it's better and makes more sense than a mutant in space. Am I the only one who wishes the Creep was carried in Fugitoid's ship to make a Jason X episode?

[Shark_Blade]

Nice pics!

I'm still wondering how they're gonna put romance between Raph and her.

[Amaranthus]

No idea what you're talking about, OP. Mona is smoking.
She's just below Karai in my hottest female character list of this show.

[Garfield]

I thoughts Newtrilizer was a mutant all along. Was he a mutant until they decided to make him one of an alien race?



I think that's cool. I don't think that they ever actually made it obvious that Neutralizer was a mutant. His origin was left open and there was some mystique to him. And in retrospect. Newt does seem different than the mutants we tend to see in this show with his really high invulnerable and his "raka rakka" speak.

[Luckyday]

I kind of hoping they'll have more reptile like ticks and alien facial expression. No toothy smiles for me please.

For the most part, I think Mona Lisa will come out somewhere between likable and tolerable like Renet.

I 'm worried that the so-called "romance" between Raph and Mona is them mostly bickering at each other due to high sexual tension of SlapSlapKiss (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlapSlapKiss)

[TigerClaw]

I kind of hoping they'll have more reptile like ticks and alien facial expression. No toothy smiles for me please.

For the most part, I think Mona Lisa will come out somewhere between likable and tolerable like Renet.

I 'm worried that the so-called "romance" between Raph and Mona is them mostly bickering at each other due to high sexual tension of SlapSlapKiss (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlapSlapKiss)
and more of a bad ass hopefully.

[Etsyturtle2]

No idea what you're talking about, OP. Mona is smoking.
She's just below Karai in my hottest female character list of this show.

I don't know if I agree or if that's really strange thing to think about.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

This may be a bit odd of an observation, but I find it interesting that Mona Lisa here seems to be less obviously meant to appeal to a human ideal of beauty. This really isn't a big deal for me, but it's sortof how I like Koya's design in the IDW comics.

Now we haven't seen her out of the suit, and she looks nice enough, but I do wonder if seeing an alien amphibian, someone er, 'closer' species wise to the turtles* is a bit of a wake up call. I mean, Donatello might be attracted to April because that's all he's known growing up as a teenage guy on earth. There's no girls on earth of his species, or even close.

Probably over thinking it, but what I'm getting at is, as a writer you could take the tricky task of communicating to us, the mammal audience, that these non mammal characters are attracted to each other without totally relying on making her appeal to our sense of attractive qualities, if that makes sense.

*Now, salamanders and turtles are different species, if more alike physically to our eyes than humans. Of course, we're engaging in a lot of suspension of disbelief to begin with here if Raph is going to fall for an alien that, logically, he should have less in common genetically with than an ear of corn. But it didn't stop Lois and Clark, so why quibble eh?

[TigerClaw]

This may be a bit odd of an observation, but I find it interesting that Mona Lisa here seems to be less obviously meant to appeal to a human ideal of beauty. This really isn't a big deal for me, but it's sortof how I like Koya's design in the IDW comics.

Now we haven't seen her out of the suit, and she looks nice enough, but I do wonder if seeing an alien amphibian, someone er, 'closer' species wise to the turtles* is a bit of a wake up call. I mean, Donatello might be attracted to April because that's all he's known growing up as a teenage guy on earth. There's no girls on earth of his species, or even close.

Probably over thinking it, but what I'm getting at is, as a writer you could take the tricky task of communicating to us, the mammal audience, that these non mammal characters are attracted to us without totally relying on making her appeal to our sense of attractive qualities, if that makes sense.

*Now, salamanders and turtles are different species, if more alike physically to our eyes than humans. Of course, we're engaging in a lot of suspension of disbelief to begin with here if Ralph is going to fall for an alien that, logically, he should have less in common genetically with than an ear of corn. But it didn't stop Lois and Clark, so why quibble eh?
Raph on the show doesn't seem like the person to fall in love all of a sudden, The only way this could happen if, the two are relatable with the issues they deal with.

And then there's that sort of attraction that he might have, torwards other reptiles or salamanders that's close to his own species.

Raph is the only turtle who finds it weird that Turtles are riding on horses, and now in space.

[Luckyday]

This may be a bit odd of an observation, but I find it interesting that Mona Lisa here seems to be less obviously meant to appeal to a human ideal of beauty. This really isn't a big deal for me, but it's sortof how I like Koya's design in the IDW comics.

Now we haven't seen her out of the suit, and she looks nice enough, but I do wonder if seeing an alien amphibian, someone er, 'closer' species wise to the turtles* is a bit of a wake up call. I mean, Donatello might be attracted to April because that's all he's known growing up as a teenage guy on earth. There's no girls on earth of his species, or even close.

Probably over thinking it, but what I'm getting at is, as a writer you could take the tricky task of communicating to us, the mammal audience, that these non mammal characters are attracted to us without totally relying on making her appeal to our sense of attractive qualities, if that makes sense.


*Now, salamanders and turtles are different species, if more alike physically to our eyes than humans. Of course, we're engaging in a lot of suspension of disbelief to begin with here if Ralph is going to fall for an alien that, logically, he should have less in common genetically with than an ear of corn. But it didn't stop Lois and Clark, so why quibble eh?

That's actually very good observation and question. I don't think it's ever actually thought of deeply of having a non-human perspective. At the most when it comes to this show, their outlook is more closely written from someone who is complete outcast like Quasimodo and not so much like Tarzan/Beast, which would be a more fitting example to describe their situation if the writers did research on turtle behavior.
http://static.tumblr.com/oumr1bu/jhRm8yrnm/quasi_gif.gif

but if you want a real answer..... well it's not going to be base on appearance or at least appearances will become an inquired taste after a while of becoming close to one and another. With Raph and Mona, it's going to grow out of mutual respect of displaying alpha behavior or dominance since that's how turtles act in the wild and that's from basing on how warlike Mona Lisa seem to be. No sweet talk or flirty cuddly behavior. Just primal un-bastardize total dominance.

So either way, somebody gotta be the bottom bitch.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

It does seem interesting that Mona Lisa's personality seems closer to Alopex, or Ninjara, that is, a warrior that starts as an antagonist than the wisecracking college girl from the original series episode. But then, that version of Raph was more of a wise cracker himself, than the anger driven turtle in almost every other TMNT-verse.

[Luckyday]

It does seem interesting that Mona Lisa's personality seems closer to Alopex, or Ninjara, that is, a warrior that starts as an antagonist than the wisecracking college girl from the original series episode. But then, that version of Raph was more of a wise cracker himself, than the anger driven turtle in almost every other TMNT-verse.

I am still hoping that it's not like that because having yet another person for him to display this tough guy persona around is the last thing he needs right now and if theories are correct, he's going to have a huge survivor's guilt because of him indirectly causing the Triceratons to invade Earth and destroying it as a result.

Maybe she'll be like a tsundere type of person or someone who feels pressured by her culture to show no weakness. You know someone that feels the need to overcompensate her strength and attitude like Raph. That would be more preferably then seeing two characters bickering with each other over sexual tension like a 90's romcom and the BS desire to be top dog.

[Amaranthus]

I don't know if I agree or if that's really strange thing to think about.

I'm 17 and 16 is legal in my country so it's fine.

[senpai]

Dude, Mikey's weapons are the best! It may take some getting used to Mona Lisa's design. It's not bad. I do agree she's more reptile than humanoid but I'm sure the animation will grow on us.

[Amaranthus]

Dude, Mikey's weapons are the best! It may take some getting used to Mona Lisa's design. It's not bad. I do agree she's more reptile than humanoid but I'm sure the animation will grow on us.

>newt
>reptile
Pick one.

[senpai]

>newt
>reptile
Pick one.

I think you mean amphibian not newt. And whateva. I say what I want. :trazz:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z0-KZS1dDyw/hqdefault.jpg

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This female lizard looks like a strong, independent enough character to stand out on her own that I feel that calling her Mona Lisa would be a waste. I know they're heavy on fanservice in this show but it feels like they create characters that are too unique and original to be called "remember this character".

[Amaranthus]

I think you mean amphibian not newt. And whateva. I say what I want. :trazz:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z0-KZS1dDyw/hqdefault.jpg

Newtralizer has his name for a reason. And newts are amphibians.

This female lizard looks like a strong, independent enough character to stand out on her own that I feel that calling her Mona Lisa would be a waste. I know they're heavy on fanservice in this show but it feels like they create characters that are too unique and original to be called "remember this character".

If she's a strong independent character why are you mislabelling her?
The Social Justice Biologist in me is so pissed off right now.

[senpai]

it feels like they create characters that are too unique and original to be called "remember this character".

I never thought about it like that. This is an excellent observation and very true. These characters are so original that they deserve their own names. Mona Lisa feels like it's being too forced in comparison to the other alien names introduced in season 4.

And newts are amphibians.

Duh :P You were getting persnickety with names and listed a general classification like reptile then a specific species of amphibians like newt so I was just getting persnickety back by... Nevermind. I don't like explaining jokes lol

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Newtralizer has his name for a reason. And newts are amphibians.



If she's a strong independent character why are you mislabelling her?
The Social Justice Biologist in me is so pissed off right now.

*facepalm* I said she looks like she could be a strong character. And what does your knowledge in biology have to do with an anthropomorphic character's personality?

[senpai]

*facepalm* Strong under determination. I said looks like she could be. And what does your knowledge in biology has to do with a bipedal character's personality?

I think he's on a mission to convince everyone to use the term 'amphibian' or 'newt'. Don't worry; you're fine. ;)

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah, thanks. I know I am.:)

[Amaranthus]

*facepalm* I said she looks like she could be a strong character. And what does your knowledge in biology have to do with an anthropomorphic character's personality?

You called her a lizard. Which is unforgivable.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Oh, *sniff*.....cry me a river.

[TigerClaw]

This female lizard looks like a strong, independent enough character to stand out on her own that I feel that calling her Mona Lisa would be a waste. I know they're heavy on fanservice in this show but it feels like they create characters that are too unique and original to be called "remember this character".
The show takes a lot of liberties on these characters, they don't have the same origins, they are in name only.

And this version of Mona Lisa is not a lizard, she resembles more a salamander, which is why her race is called the Salamandrians.

[Luckyday]

This female lizard looks like a strong, independent enough character to stand out on her own that I feel that calling her Mona Lisa would be a waste. I know they're heavy on fanservice in this show but it feels like they create characters that are too unique and original to be called "remember this character".

Most re-imagined characters are like that in this series but when the originally character's bio are so generically cookie cutter in the landscape of saturday morning cartoons then having a different twist is not only appreciated but it makes the character stand out.

That being said, new Mona Lisa is pretty much the opposite of what she was originally in the David Wise cartoon but she still has the same purpose which to be Raph's match. In the David Wise cartoon she was a match in Raph's whit and being an all round smart ass in the group. In this version, she his match in brute force and having a "take no prisoner" type of attitude just like Raph, who is still bit of a smart ass but has more angry management issues which fits with new Mona Lisa's disposition. Her being a warrior instead of being a woman of science maybe make more sense depending on what they're trying to do in context of the story but I just hope it's not going to come down to them having this little pissing contest. I'm not a huge fan of the 90's bickering couple trope. It wasn't cute when 2k3 April and 2k3 Casey did it and won't be well like here. :roll:

[alypkm]

I'm still not digging Mona Lisa's style, too animalistic...

Kinda like the frogs and Napolean. Too frog-like in real life. We don't have the turtles looking like red-eared sliders...

Well, at least she's back. Props to Ciro and team.

oh finally someone noticed this other than me, I realized that most of the new mutants looks so detailed and looks like the real thing, while the turtles actually looks nothing like real turtles or as much detailed.

[TigerClaw]

oh finally someone noticed this other than me, I realized that most of the new mutants looks so detailed and looks like the real thing, while the turtles actually looks nothing like real turtles or as much detailed.
You can say the same about Mondo Gecko, His face looks more like a real gecko then in previous incarnations.

I would have preferred that all the mutants have humanoid like faces, that were still animal like, which is why I'm used to the mutant designs from the Fred Wolf series.

Since the Mutagen was involved, They were supposed to develop human like qualities due to the fusion of human and animal DNA.

[aliena]

I'm pretty disappointed in Mona Lisa's design, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I just couldn't see Mikey liking Renet and it ended up working out great for me personally. I just hope Mona doesn't talk like the Newtralizer. I guess it has to do with where Raph is with Alopex in IDW that is most likely dragging me down about Mona.

I do hope that it isn't love at first sight with Raph, they have all been love at first sight. I'd like Raph to be his usual self where he doesn't trust her and fights the idea of her being around. I don't want them to fight and bicker either. The slow burn would be nice for once, well Nick's version of the slow burn.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Agreed. I am kind of on the fence about her myself.

[Luckyday]

I'm pretty disappointed in Mona Lisa's design, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I just couldn't see Mikey liking Renet and it ended up working out great for me personally. I just hope Mona doesn't talk like the Newtralizer. I guess it has to do with where Raph is with Alopex in IDW that is most likely dragging me down about Mona.

I do hope that it isn't love at first sight with Raph, they have all been love at first sight. I'd like Raph to be his usual self where he doesn't trust her and fights the idea of her being around. I don't want them to fight and bicker either. The slow burn would be nice for once, well Nick's version of the slow burn.

You know it will be a nice surprise if this episode is actually a subtle character study of Raph and how he feels about indirectly causing the Earth to be suck into a black hole but even if not then maybe it's more a broad character look on how he has put on a tough front despite of what happen.

The premise of two enemies having to put their differences aside for a common goal sounds too simple and straightforward. I mean why else would the Mona Lisa in this version act so similar to Raph if it's not meant for him to self reflect on himself and his actions and maybe even for him to display empathy for her. Also self reflecting through another character is a common theme with Raph centric episodes like Turtle Temper; The Good,The Bad, and the Casey Jones, and The episode that had the second appearance of the Newtrailzer.

[TigerClaw]

I'm pretty disappointed in Mona Lisa's design, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I just couldn't see Mikey liking Renet and it ended up working out great for me personally. I just hope Mona doesn't talk like the Newtralizer. I guess it has to do with where Raph is with Alopex in IDW that is most likely dragging me down about Mona.

I do hope that it isn't love at first sight with Raph, they have all been love at first sight. I'd like Raph to be his usual self where he doesn't trust her and fights the idea of her being around. I don't want them to fight and bicker either. The slow burn would be nice for once, well Nick's version of the slow burn.
If you seen the clip from the NYCC panel, She does this little sound before she speaks, like the Newtralizer but very different sound, almost sounds like a growl or roar.

[Amaranthus]

Oh, *sniff*.....cry me a river.

I have no reason to cry because I can tell amphibians and reptiles apart.
:D

[SophieDem]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/fa864c178d67bb55f044309c85356f1d/tumblr_nvu3ooUmRb1uuxhjio1_1280.jpg

Doesn't look too bad to me. Heck, I remember how I didn't like Slash's design but I got over it quickly when I saw it in animation.

It may be the same for Mona Lisa.

Edit: Anyone notice that her skin color is a tad darker? Even if she an alien, maybe the design is base on a type of salamander that change colors?

Beautiful couple... From this angle, she seems really scary but I liked how she acted in one of the first clips from season 4. Geez, i don't know how to feel about this. I am a bit intolerant and a bit excited at the same time. I didn't really like Mona in the cartoon version - but this salamander lady looks more... definite. Somebody who could stand out.
Just please! Creators of TMNT! We don't want lovey-dovey stuff! Hear my prayers! Ciro, you hear me?

[cryan]

Yeah, not the cute female mutant Salamander I remember from FW. Glad she's back but dang they could have done a little better job on her. Just sayin.


I'm still not digging Mona Lisa's style, too animalistic...

Kinda like the frogs and Napolean. Too frog-like in real life. We don't have the turtles looking like red-eared sliders...

Well, at least she's back. Props to Ciro and team.