Thor: Ragnarok

[NinjaPug]

Thought I'd start a thread for this now that they've got a director and now that the trades are confirming Hulk will be a part of the movie.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/mark-ruffalo-thor-ragnarok-hulk-1201619246/

JoBlo's original report on Hulk being included makes it sound like we'll be getting some variation of Planet Hulk in this.

[TurtleTitan97]

While seeing Hulk is great, I just want the Enchantress and Executioner to finally appear in the MCU. Always did love those two.

[sdp]

Counting how many Marvel movies come out in a year do we really need a separate therad for all of them? I would think a general MCU thread would work with the exception for bigger movies or a big announcement.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

While seeing Hulk is great, I just want the Enchantress and Executioner to finally appear in the MCU. Always did love those two.

This.

I dunno, Hulk doesn't really seem like he belongs in a Thor movie. This goes two ways for me:

#1 I haven't liked either previous Thor movie very much (they're the only MCU movies NOT on my home shelf) because none of them have felt very gritty grounded Viking warrior Asgard mythological questy. Basically, I want a rolicking warrior Viking-god fantasy tale. But with Eric Selvig running around nekkid, Natalie Portman muttering about "sea bass", and The Warriors Three being nothing more than background character clutter... I don't see this as an indication that things will change for Thor 3.

#2 On the other hand, tying in a major character that I DO like (Hulk) makes it much more likely that I'll want to see it. So far, the only main Thor characters I like are Darcy (yeah, I said it) and Loki. Odin's a well done character, but he's a d!ck. And Thor... he's never convinced me as an interesting character. I know, I know... no one else agrees, but y'all don't have to agree.

[drgon78]

I have enjoyed the last two Thor movies but I think adding Hulk would be a little too much.

[THGhost]

It'll be interesting to see how the Hulk fits in, since it doesn't really feel like he belongs in a Thor movie.

[ZariusTwo]

http://www.newsarama.com/27008-report-thor-ragnarok-finds-a-new-writer.html

Looks like the script is getting a rewrite

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

At the moment, I have very little faith that Thor 3 will be much of an improvement of its weak predecessors... :tconfuse:

[NinjaPug]

Looks like Cate Blanchett is joining the cast. Hela, maybe? I'm amazed at the quality of actors Marvel has been getting for their movies.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/cate-blanchett-thor-marvel-ragnarok-1201658846/

[ToTheNines]

Enchantress, I hope.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Looks like Cate Blanchett is joining the cast. Hela, maybe? I'm amazed at the quality of actors Marvel has been getting for their movies.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/cate-blanchett-thor-marvel-ragnarok-1201658846/

Thor/Lord of the Rings crossover confirmed!!!

BRING ON GALADRIEL!

[TurtleTitan97]

I hope she's Enchantress as well.

[CyberCubed]

She's not good looking enough, and too old looking, to be the Enchantress.

This is what she needs to look like, I don't see her pulling it off:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/avengersearthsmightiestheroes/images/2/2e/15_ep_25.png/revision/latest?cb=20120412173805

[TurtleTitan97]

She's not good looking enough, and too old looking, to be the Enchantress.

This is what she needs to look like, I don't see her pulling it off:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/avengersearthsmightiestheroes/images/2/2e/15_ep_25.png/revision/latest?cb=20120412173805

:roll: No one about your personal fantasies. Don't you have turtle nostrils to whine about?

[CyberCubed]

It is true though. The Enchantress is supposed to be a blonde bombshell who seduces Thor with her charms in both the comics and the cartoons. Look at the way comic artists always draw her with her boobs popping out of her top, even Avengers: EMH got away with cleavage for a cartoon.

They should have cast a young girl in their early to mid 20's.

[TurtleTitan97]

It is true though. The Enchantress is supposed to be a blonde bombshell who seduces Thor with her charms in both the comics and the cartoons. Look at the way comic artists always draw her with her boobs popping out of her top, even Avengers: EMH got away with cleavage for a cartoon.

They should have cast a young girl in their early to mid 20's.

Why, so that you can annoy us be constantly telling us about how hot she is? :roll:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It is true though. The Enchantress is supposed to be a blonde bombshell who seduces Thor with her charms in both the comics and the cartoons. Look at the way comic artists always draw her with her boobs popping out of her top, even Avengers: EMH got away with cleavage for a cartoon.

They should have cast a young girl in their early to mid 20's.

True, but Marvel plays it pretty safe. I think the most cleavage you're ever going to get in an MCU movie is Black Widow.

[CyberCubed]

True, but Marvel plays it pretty safe. I think the most cleavage you're ever going to get in an MCU movie is Black Widow.

You'd be surprised with some of the cartoons got away with:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelmovies/images/3/3a/Enchantress_HV.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120125233630

[TurtleTitan97]

You'd be surprised with some of the cartoons got away with:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelmovies/images/3/3a/Enchantress_HV.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120125233630

Yeah well NEWSFLASH Cubed, this isn't a cartoon.

And if they cast her as Enchantress, there's literally noting you can do than just suck it up and deal with it.

[Bry]

Cate Blanchett is a super talented actor who would make that role something far more interesting and memorable than most others could. And Cubey is complaining about not getting enough cleavage.

Business as usual, then? :lol:

[AT-Man]

Why isn't anyone talking about Taika Waititi directing Thor 3!!!! :o

Now I suddenly have enormous hopes for it being the next surprise hit after GOTG.

[The Deadman]

Tessa Thompson Joins Thor: Ragnarok, Natalie Portman Not Returning (http://411mania.com/movies/tessa-thompson-joins-thor-ragnarok-natalie-portman-not-returning/)

[CyberCubed]

So Natalie Portman has been kicked to the curb. They shouldn't have cast her in the first place.

[drgon78]

I really liked Natalie Portman's character, I think this Thor is going to be a train wreck. This new actress does nothing for me and even worse, never heard of her.

[ToTheNines]

I really liked Natalie Portman's character, I think this Thor is going to be a train wreck. This new actress does nothing for me and even worse, never heard of her.

MCU Jane Foster sucks butt.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Thank God. GET RID of Natalie Portman.

Gah. I'll miss Darcy, though.

[Cure]

Gah. I'll miss Darcy, though.

I'll miss them tittayz.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'll miss them tittayz.

Nothing wrong with her cleavage. I loved her humor, too. "Gimme your shoe." She and Loki are the only characters I enjoy in a Thor movie.

[ToTheNines]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0fa2ad_VCcp7R_fPzak3DOESNjg8Xj Ka_uBUvrGmSIiaQczIedgI'll miss them tittayz.

[Cure]

Yeeeeaaah boy.

[ZariusTwo]

I think this Thor is going to be a train wreck..

Nothing new there.

[ssjup81]

I really liked Natalie Portman's character, I think this Thor is going to be a train wreck. This new actress does nothing for me and even worse, never heard of her.Her character was the one who liked Thor,right? If so...I personally found her annoying. No idea why, either. I liked the other characters around her, though...and personally, I favor Loki's character, so if he's there, I'm getting a movie ticket. lol Oh well. Still looking forward to the third installment regardless...even if I don't know the director and stuff.

[Chabrendeki]

I'm a Natalie Portman fan since "Léon: The Professional"... I was 14 I saw the film and fell immediately in love with her, so I gonna miss her... :tlove:

[LeotheLateBloomer]

For those of you who didn't like Natelie Portman's Jane Foster, why is this? And no, being an astrophysicist as opposed to a scientist does not count.

[TigerClaw]

For those of you who didn't like Natelie Portman's Jane Foster, why is this? And no, being an astrophysicist as opposed to a scientist does not count.
I had no problem with Jane Foster in the movies, I guess some just don't like the portrayal of the character, in the current comments, Jane Foster became the new Thor.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

For those of you who didn't like Natelie Portman's Jane Foster, why is this? And no, being an astrophysicist as opposed to a scientist does not count.

Because #1, Natalie Portman is a liar who takes all the credit from people who deserve it (e.g. her stunt double doing all the ballet in Black Swan)

#2, Jane Foster in the MCU is a vapid boring character who is one-dimensional in the first movie, and a MacGuffin Plot Device who likes sea bass in the second movie who just HAPPENS to stumble across the Aether.

[Spike Spiegel]

Are there any rumors of plans for more stand alone Thor films after all of this (post Infinity War)?

[sdp]

Is Portman's character getting recasted? I find it annoying when movies spend so much time of the film dealing with love interests only to drop them when things go bad like they do here, Batman Returns/TDKR etc. Either to do it right or ignore it, did every MCU superhero really need a love interest? They should've planned ahead. At this point I'd prefer if they recasted, its better than ignoring like it ever happened.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Is Portman's character getting recasted? I find it annoying when movies spend so much time of the film dealing with love interests only to drop them when things go bad like they do here, Batman Returns/TDKR etc. Either to do it right or ignore it, did every MCU superhero really need a love interest? They should've planned ahead. At this point I'd prefer if they recasted, its better than ignoring like it ever happened.

Maybe an Ultron drone fragged her.

Or maybe she tried to get into that magic hot tub with Thor but it fried her.

[ToTheNines]

For those of you who didn't like Natelie Portman's Jane Foster, why is this? And no, being an astrophysicist as opposed to a scientist does not count.

I'm not well versed in Thor comics, but in EMH Thor falls in love with her because he is amazed how courageous she is despite being a powerless mortal (she's an EMT and risks her life to help the wounded.

In the movie, the romance is totally forced. Their infatuation is based on nothing, except physical attraction. I think it was smart to do the whole astrophysicist thing, and I'm glad they didn't make the whole movie about their relationship, but still... she's pretty pointless.

Anyways, this new character being a love interest is a rumor at this point. Thor should end up with Sif.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2015/news/150921/jamie-alexander-01-800.jpg

Are there any rumors of plans for more stand alone Thor films after all of this (post Infinity War)?

None at present. As of right now the only post-A3 sequels I'd put money on are Spidey, Guardians and Black Panther.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

None at present. As of right now the only post-A3 sequels I'd put money on are Spidey, Guardians and Black Panther.

IF Bucky picks up the mantle after Infinity War, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Captain America 4 focusing on him... and possibly Black Widow.

Also, a Hulk sequel could finally happen, potentially.

[ToTheNines]

IF Bucky picks up the mantle after Infinity War, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Captain America 4 focusing on him... and possibly Black Widow.

Also, a Hulk sequel could finally happen, potentially.

Yeah, that could be cool.

I wish we could get a Hulk movie, but Marvel doesn't want to share distribution rights with Universal so I doubt we ever get another one.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yeah, that could be cool.

I wish we could get a Hulk movie, but Marvel doesn't want to share distribution rights with Universal so I doubt we ever get another one.

Agreed.

Also, I could see Captain Marvel getting a sequel...

[ToTheNines]

Oh, yes. I certainly hope so.

Speaking of Captain Marvel, I've seen a bunch of people online suggest that Tessa Thompson could be portraying Monica Rambeu. She certainly looks the part.

[turtlefanforever]

Yeah, that could be cool.

I wish we could get a Hulk movie, but Marvel doesn't want to share distribution rights with Universal so I doubt we ever get another one.

between this movie, & Civil war Parts 1&2. we will get a feature length Hulk movie. it's their way around it.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

My bad! She was a nurse, not a scientist.:trazz:

If she's completely out of the MCU, I'd love to see her replace Megan Fox as April.

[TurtleTitan97]

If she's completely out of the MCU, I'd love to see her replace Megan Fox as April.

And place her in a movie franchise even more mediocre than Thor's?? No one deserves that.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

True enough.....Maybe in a reboot.

[NinjaPug]

Marvel makes the casting official.

Two-time Oscar®-winner Cate Blanchett (“Blue Jasmine,” “Carol, “Cinderella”) joins Marvel Studios’ “Thor: Ragnarok” as the mysterious and powerful new villain Hela, along with Jeff Goldblum (the upcoming “Independence Day: Resurgence,” “The Grand Budapest Hotel,” “Jurassic Park”) who joins the cast as the eccentric Grandmaster, Tessa Thompson (“Creed,” “Selma”) who will bring the classic hero Valkyrie to life on the big screen, and Karl Urban (“Star Trek” trilogy, “The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”) who will add his might to the fray as Skurge.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/26203/marvel_studios_confirms_stellar_new_cast_members_o f_the_highly_anticipated_thor_ragnarok?linkId=2471 7780
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[TurtleTitan97]

That's cool, though I'm still disappointed we're still not getting the Enchantress.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That's cool, though I'm still disappointed we're still not getting the Enchantress and Executioner.

Agreed. But this still sounds kinda cool. And I hate Thor 1 and 2--worst MCU movies ever.

[NinjaPug]

Concept art of Hela.

http://media.comicbook.com/2016/05/573f502b0fd8c-183406.jpg

[TurtleTitan97]

Agreed. But this still sounds kinda cool. And I hate Thor 1 and 2--worst MCU movies ever.

I'll still hold on to hope we'll get Amora eventually. Almost forgot Skurge was Executioner's real name, so we're just halfway there.

As for Hela, she's still a good choice regardless. And that concept art is pretty cool.

[ToTheNines]

Goldblum is a good fit for the MCU, but that's some ******** casting of Skurge. Urban better hit the gym and the vitamin store yesterday.

They're probably blending Hela and Amora into one character, which is fine I guess. This will probably be the last Thor movie, so that's the best we're gonna get.

Boo on no Sif or The Warriors Three.

[TigerClaw]

Great to see Jeff Goldblum being a part of the MCU, and even more interesting the fact they also got Karl Urban, since he was Judge Dredd recently.

[NinjaPug]

Great to see Jeff Goldblum being a part of the MCU, and even more interesting the fact they also got Karl Urban, since he was Judge Dredd recently.

Casting Karl Urban is never more interesting than casting Jeff Goldblum

[TigerClaw]

Casting Karl Urban is never more interesting than casting Jeff Goldblum
Its interesting to me because, The MCU now has two actors who played Judge Dredd, Stallone is rumored to be in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2

[NinjaPug]

Some info on Ragnarok via JoBlo:

A few weeks ago we got a hefty dose of info on the third solo outing for Thor with THOR: RAGNAROK with a number of casting announcements and a few sparse details that tease the story. Now, you’ll recall that we broke the casting news of Mark Ruffalo back in October of last year, which has obviously been confirmed since then. The other new additions announced last week are Cate Blanchett as Hela, Karl Urban as Skurge, Jeff Goldblum as The Grandmaster, and Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie (and yes, even Jaimie Alexander has assured us she’ll return as Sif).

Since our initial report of Ruffalo appearing as Hulk in the film we’ve heard rumors of how the story will play out and just how “Planet Hulk” the film will be. Well, here’s what we know: The film will definitely have the Planet Hulk element in it, operating as a kind of mash-up with the Ragnarok story. How Thor ends up on the planet in question is unclear, but he will definitely be involved in some gladiatorial games run by none other than Jeff Goldblum’s Grandmaster. In terms of Hulk’s appearance in this portion of the film, he will be rocking the one-shoulder armor as seen in the comics, so expect him to be decked out in the familiar Planet Hulk look.

And speaking of appearances, expect a major change in the look of The God of Thunder himself for this part of the film as he will be sporting a shaved head (but not completely bald) for at least a portion of the film. Also, expect a very different look for Tessa Thompson’s Valkyrie, who is traditionally a blonde-haired warrior type in the comics. For RAGNAROK she’ll be wearing war paint on her face, much like a Native American warrior, which should be an interesting take on this variation of the character.

In terms of story, there’s still much in the air, but the gist of Thor’s mission in the film is that he needs to find the ultimate weapon to stop Ragnarok and reset the universe. What is that weapon and how does he gets set on that path? Your guess is as good as ours, but the whole thing just sounds like a big ball of awesome already, so we’re on board with whatever direction they go. With the official cast details released last week and now more on the look and feel of the film, THOR: RAGNAROK is sounding more and more like a solid event film more so than another solo outing. Sound familiar? I’m pretty sure the solo Marvel films will only remain as such for the first outing with each new sequel being more of an ensemble piece going forward. Expect to see that across the board and we’ve already seen it trickling into the comic book films of DC and Fox’s X-Men films. It’s the new ****, so settle in.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-scoop-thor-ragnarok-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-details-316

[CyberCubed]

They're shaving Thor's hair? Why? Thor without the golden locks just isn't Thor.

Plus all the fangirls will be disappointed. They love Thor and find him sexy because of his long golden flowing hair. Him with a shaved head will just make him look generic.

[NinjaPug]

Gladiator Hulk armor at SDCC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoD7y8QUEAEV1VF?format=jpg&name=large

[ToTheNines]

The Trojan helmet is dumb.... otherwise epic!

[drgon78]

Last I remember the Trojan helmet was used in planet hulk. But it has been a while so who knows.

[TurtleTitan97]

Gladiator Hulk armor at SDCC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoD7y8QUEAEV1VF?format=jpg&name=large

Sweet!!!:D

[turtlefanforever]

FINALLY Hulk isn't some idiot who happens to smash things in a marvel movie. Very hyped . And f universal for not trying to do another hulk movie all these years.

[turtlefanforever]

i hate mark ruffalo as hulk and avengers hulk design.

[AT-Man]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/175/067/i02/thorragnaroklogo.jpg?1469322961

Isn't this just the best damn logo you've ever seen?!

H. Y. P. E. D. !.

[ToTheNines]

Very 80's.

[NinjaPug]

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[TheSkeletonMan939]

:lol:

Mjolnir getting a little bed was too much.

[AT-Man]

looool! That clip better be canon.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Team Darryl all the way. :tlol:

[ZariusTwo]

It's kind of terrifying to think that's exactly the sort of scene I've come to expect IN one of those movies

[AT-Man]

It's kind of terrifying to think that's exactly the sort of scene I've come to expect IN one of those movies

I would love a whole movie like that.

[Commenter 42]

He's so damned good. What do I want? more of this.
Damn. I laughed at everything damn it.

I like.


i hate mark ruffalo as hulk and avengers hulk design.

What? how the...

Who...

hunh?

no.....

https://beligerentbettyblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/dafuq-little-girl-meme-18.jpg?w=608

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I wonder if that girl knows she's a meme.

[Commenter 42]

I wonder if that girl knows she's a meme.

Her parents are assholes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ToTheNines]

What? how the...

Who...

hunh?

no.....

https://beligerentbettyblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/dafuq-little-girl-meme-18.jpg?w=608

He's a played out contrarion. Ignore him.

[Commenter 42]

He's a played out contrarion. Ignore him.

Ahhhh...

'cause like... y'know...

lol...Avengers Hulk is platinum level.
They even used Lou for the first...

lot o' crazy in the drome threads these days.

[turtlefanforever]

Ahhhh...

'cause like... y'know...

lol...Avengers Hulk is platinum level.
They even used Lou for the first...

lot o' crazy in the drome threads these days.

and that's your opnion. to me i don't like the design or actor playing him. the skin tones too light for one. and it's just not astetically pleasing to me. and i dont appriciate how he's just been turned into some idiot that smashes things.

i'm hyped for this movie as a big hulk fan. doesnt mean i have to like the design or actor. i didn't like Ang Lee's hulk either.

[Commenter 42]

and that's your opnion. to me i don't like the design or actor playing him. the skin tones too light for one. and it's just not astetically pleasing to me. and i dont appriciate how he's just been turned into some idiot that smashes things.

i'm hyped for this movie as a big hulk fan. doesnt mean i have to like the design or actor. i didn't like Ang Lee's hulk either.

No, and sure, if you don't like Ruffalo...

[turtlefanforever]

No, and sure, if you don't like Ruffalo...


i like Bixby/Lou and Norton, and i watched the incredible hulk cartoon growing up and enjoyed that as well. I have no problems with Ruffalo personally he just doesn't sit right with me as hulk. Doesn't seem/look right or natural. As Hulk/Banner. And that's my opinion. age isn't helping him much either.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Ruffalo is a chunky guy. Not sure if it's more muscle than fat, but he's a thick man. He looks intimidating. I wouldn't call him a puss if he spilled my drink in a bar.

Norton, however, looks like a pushover. We'd all kick sand in his face at the beach. THAT level of contrast made Hulk and Bruce Banner much more interesting.

Plus, Liv Tyler. :tlol:

[plastroncafe]

Norton is less obtrusive in the face department, he's got that bland white dude everyman thing going on...but having seen him in both Fight Club and American History X, it's not possible for me to see him as a push-over physically.

I will say the omission of Betty Ross in the MCU was/is a tragedy.

[ToTheNines]

Cylons, stop playing. You would not fight Ed Norton.

http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/uploads/1/7/3/8/17382151/3821428_orig.jpg

Dude is pretty tone. Rufalo is a dough boy. That's why he ghosted Widow in AoU... he didn't want ScarJo to see him naked.

Either way, Banner isn't meant to be physically imposing. Kinda the point of the character.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Cylons, stop playing. You would not fight Ed Norton.

http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/uploads/1/7/3/8/17382151/3821428_orig.jpg

Dude is pretty tone. Rufalo is a dough boy. That's why he ghosted Widow in AoU... he didn't want ScarJo to see him naked.

Either way, Banner isn't meant to be physically imposing. Kinda the point of the character.

I would. I just didn't say I'd WIN. :tlol:

Well, in Ruffalo's defense, none of us want to see him without those purple trunks. That poor security guy in the first movie.

But be honest... if not for Fight Club (and some other movie PC mentioned that I hadn't heard of), how many of us would think Norton a badass? Not very tall, not very wide, not very packed... he made a great Banner.

Oh geez. I'm sounding like Cubed, aren't I?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Oh geez. I'm sounding like Cubed, aren't I?

Honestly I've only ever seen 'Cubed talk about the physique of actresses, never actors.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Honestly I've only ever seen 'Cubed talk about the physique of actresses, never actors.

So... Gay Cubed?

[ToTheNines]

I would. I just didn't say I'd WIN. :tlol:

Well, in Ruffalo's defense, none of us want to see him without those purple trunks. That poor security guy in the first movie.

But be honest... if not for Fight Club (and some other movie PC mentioned that I hadn't heard of), how many of us would think Norton a badass? Not very tall, not very wide, not very packed... he made a great Banner.

Oh geez. I'm sounding like Cubed, aren't I?

American History X, I would assume.

And he's skinny, but he's 6 foot tall. No shrimp. I like Ruffalo, but I thought Ed channeled Bixby realy well.

[Commenter 42]

American History X, I would assume.

And he's skinny, but he's 6 foot tall. No shrimp. I like Ruffalo, but I thought Ed channeled Bixby realy well.

Norton played the role, but I feel like Ruffalo owns it. Bixby, though the original...I never really cared for.

I guess, with Norton, he often feels anxious, spastic. I like that Ruffalo is always super calm, almost tired, like living as the hulk has drained him emotionally. I makes that much more sense to me.

I feel like Norton, in real life would be hulking out every few minutes.

When it comes to hulk design, Avengers brought it home for me. The face was was right.

[The Deadman]

Doctor Strange Confirmed to Appear in Thor: Ragnarok (http://411mania.com/movies/doctor-strange-confirmed-to-appear-in-thor-ragnarok/)

[TurtleTitan97]

Not exactly surprising given the post credit scene for Doctor Strange.

[NinjaPug]

Marvel released a new synopsis for the movie:

In Marvel Studios’ Thor: Ragnarok, Thor is imprisoned on the other side of the universe without his mighty hammer and finds himself in a race against time to get back to Asgard to stop Ragnarok – the destruction of his homeworld and the end of Asgardian civilization – at the hands of an all-powerful new threat, the ruthless Hela. But first he must survive a deadly gladatorial contest that pits him against his former ally and fellow Avenger – the Incredible Hulk!”

[turtlefanforever]

the more that comes out about this movie the less i wanna see it. marvel should just stop releasing stuff. They already had the audience sold with the teaser

[AT-Man]

the more that comes out about this movie the less i wanna see it. marvel should just stop releasing stuff. They already had the audience sold with the teaser

"marvel should just stop releasing stuff." Yeah, it would be for the best. The movies are losing money and literally no one wants to see them. :trolleye:

[Cure]

"marvel should just stop releasing stuff." Yeah, it would be for the best. The movies are losing money and literally no one wants to see them. :trolleye:

I think he meant information and more teasers regarding Thor.

[AT-Man]

I think he meant information and more teasers regarding Thor.

Ok, I see that now. First it seemed like he wasn't interested in it because of what information was released about the movie. I think that synopsis is all they should release about the plot, I wouldn't wanna know more too early.

[NinjaPug]

the more that comes out about this movie the less i wanna see it. marvel should just stop releasing stuff. They already had the audience sold with the teaser

What teaser?

How much has Marvel released about this movie?

[NinjaPug]

Ragnarok concept art

https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/thorragnarok-conceptart1.jpg

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[TurtleTitan97]

Sweet mother of Galactus, it's freaking beautiful!!! :o

[Autbot_Benz]

so is Thor actually gonna wear his famous helmet ?

[ProactiveMan]

Those are nice. Do you think they'll light the movie like that, or like an episode of NCIS as per the rest of the MCU?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Prediction:

First 1/3 of movie: Thor banished to battle world, fights Hulk
Second 1/3 of movie: Thor escapes and goes to Earth for answers, finds his dad (Thor possibly rescued from battle world by Loki)
Last 1/3 of movie: Thor and Loki team up against Hela

I'm drearily confident that Hela won't be in this movie anywhere near as much as we'd like. She'll be somewhat better than Malekith, but the highlight of this movie will be Thor/Hulk, not the villain or fight.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm wondering what happens between Thor 2 and 3, though. Loki was Odin and Odin was in Odinsleep... and now Loki and Thor are looking for Odin and Odin's on Earth?

[ToTheNines]

I don't think he was in Odinsleep. They just implied that Loki killed him. But I guess Loki somehow took his powers and stranded him on Earth, and people thought he was a crazy homeless guy.

But would Heimdall have seen him?

[ToTheNines]

Hela, gladiator Thor, and Valkyrie


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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hela looks fantastic.

[TigerClaw]

a bunch of new images were posted and one features Jeff Goldblum as the Grandmaster.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-jeff-goldblums-grandmaster-bruce-banner-hela-a149491

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett as Hela look a LOT like Liv Tyler?

[Andrew NDB]

Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett as Hela look a LOT like Liv Tyler?

Right there, yeah. At first glance I thought it was Betty in an Asgardian outfit or something.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Right there, yeah. At first glance I thought it was Betty in an Asgardian outfit or something.

I really dig the look, but I feel like they should've kept the blonde hair. Just to better distinguish.

It's like how Luke Evans looks more like Orlando Bloom (Will Turner) in the Hobbit than Orlando Bloom does. :tlol:

[Autbot_Benz]

Did Jeff Goldblum get his outfit from Doctor Who he looks like a gallifreyan Time Lord

[NinjaPug]

I've never been so attracted to Cate Blanchett.

Taika wasn't lying when he said Ragnarok would have a 70s-80s space fantasy vibe.

[joefsas]

This is probably the film I'm most looking forward to out of all the upcoming Marvel goodies.
Just excited to see the hulk again!

[turtlefanforever]

Officially not hyped for this movie anymore. The more that comes out the less entertaining it looks. Gonna skip it till it's on netflix or something

[Autbot_Benz]

I am also not that excited for this movie. The Thor Movies have been pretty lackluster.

[TigerClaw]

This movie will have Thor without his Hammer, I wonder if at some point in the movie, Beta Ray Bill shows up with the Hammer to rescue him and Hulk.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm pretty sure this movie will suck.

Remember how much stupid "comedy" was in Dark World? Thor on the subway waiting to get back into the fight with Malekith? Comedy in THE BIG SHOWDOWN OF THE MOVIE?

And Wakiki is telling us "this will be the funniest Thor movie yet" and emphasizing "comedy"...?

Not a good sign.

[Cure]

What the Hell, just show me Hulk.

[Andrew NDB]

Moreso than any of the other Marvel movies, the Thor movies seem to have the distinction of being very, very embarrassed of its own titular character.

[DestronMirage22]

This movie will have Thor without his Hammer, I wonder if at some point in the movie, Beta Ray Bill shows up with the Hammer to rescue him and Hulk.

Man, I hope Beta Ray Bill does make an appearance.

[Andrew NDB]

Man, I hope Beta Ray Bill does make an appearance.

This movie sounds pretty crowded for Beta Ray Bill.

[TigerClaw]

The director assures the fans that the movie is not a comedy.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-assures-fans-the-movie-is-not-really-a-comedy-a149556

"It’s not really a comedy," he explains. "There are some really great moments we’re going to have in the film. Knowing that it was Bruce Banner and Thor on kind of a road trip journey, that lends itself to a tone because those guys are both really funny. I was like you gotta exploit Chris’ comic abilities. He’s so good and underutilized in that department. He’s legitimately one of the funniest things in this film." It sounds like Thor: Ragnarok will find a good balance then and that's no bad thing.

"Big Trouble in Little China was one of those films where Jack Burton is a buffoon but he’s lovable and you’re with him the entire way. I thought Thor has got to be the one you want to be with in every scene."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yeah, you can't first emphasize the comedy and then deemphasize it.

One is the truth, one is damage control.

I think we all know which is which here.

[NinjaPug]

v7MGUNV8MxU

[TigerClaw]

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Can't wait! Looks like its gonna be a lot of fun. :)

[plastroncafe]

Yeah, that just made my entire morning!

[AT-Man]

This is a good year.

[joefsas]

That just made my day! I am so excited for this film!!!

[ProactiveMan]

Holy sh*t balls! That looks awesome.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Could this be the first Thor movie that isn't a waste of time and money?

'Bout time.

[DestronMirage22]

What a pleasant surprise, it looks better than I thought it would.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

This looks absolutely great.

[Autbot_Benz]

Still gonna wait for Netflix to get it before I watch it. It does look interesting

[ToTheNines]

It's very Guardians of The Galaxy, which I guess is cool. Great use of Led Zep.

I'm still kind of wondering how the story plays out. I guess it has to start with Thor and Loki fetching Odin from Earth, then Hela kicks everyone's ass to end the first act, second act is gladiator stuff, then Thor and Hulk take the fight back to Asgard?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I never really had much of a problem with the first two Thor movies but this one looks a lot of fun! Hope it delivers!:D

[Andrew NDB]

We all know Marvel makes great trailers.

I wonder how much screentime Dr. Strange and Hulk are going to get. I worry that after Thor and Thor 2, Marvel has sort of given up trying to make a straight-out Thor movie. And re-doing the first movie's "Thor has to prove himself worthy!" thing amidst what I'm assuming is a skeletal "Planet Hulk" storyline, with Hulk and Dr. Strange in tow? Throwing away Natalie Portman's character between films, despite two movies of growth? Probably even less Lady Sif than in Thor 2, possibly none, and still getting none of the love triangle that was supposed to happen? I dunno...

I'm also pretty convinced at this point that Hela will take the place of Death in the MCU. So this will also serve as the big Infinity War lead-in. It kind of doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of room for this movie to even be a Thor sequel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

We all know Marvel makes great trailers.

I wonder how much screentime Dr. Strange and Hulk are going to get. I worry that after Thor and Thor 2, Marvel has sort of given up trying to make a straight-out Thor movie. And re-doing the first movie's "Thor has to prove himself worthy!" thing amidst what I'm assuming is a skeletal "Planet Hulk" storyline, with Hulk and Dr. Strange in tow? Throwing away Natalie Portman's character between films, despite two movies of growth? Probably even less Lady Sif than in Thor 2, possibly none, and still getting none of the love triangle that was supposed to happen? I dunno...

I'm also pretty convinced at this point that Hela will take the place of Death in the MCU. So this will also serve as the big Infinity War lead-in. It kind of doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of room for this movie to even be a Thor sequel.

Marvel does great trailers. And it is about time for a GOOD Thor movie. But I think this will be the Iron Man 2 of Thor movies... jumbled and full of stuff and really really just trying to get pieces in place for Avengers.

As long as it's not the Iron Man 3 of Thor movies.

[ZariusTwo]

"I know him from work"

F*ck me, these movies just get worse and worse...

[ToTheNines]

I'm also pretty convinced at this point that Hela will take the place of Death in the MCU. So this will also serve as the big Infinity War lead-in. It kind of doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of room for this movie to even be a Thor sequel.

Fiege did call it "the Winter Soldier of phase 3". So yeah, I expect to see Thanos macking on Blanchett by the end of movie.


As long as it's not the Iron Man 3 of Thor movies.

I don't think they could make a movie that dumb again if they tried.

[snake]

I'm so f*cking happy they used Hela's comic costume and gladiator Hulk.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Keep a close eye out and you'll catch a shot of Skurge/The Executioner.

[joefsas]

Is that the dude with the machine gun?

[TurtleTitan97]

Is that the dude with the machine gun?

Indeed it is.

I'm so hyped for this movie now.

[PApagreg]

"I know him from work"

F*ck me, these movies just get worse and worse...


Whats wrong with that line

[ProactiveMan]

Maybe it's too silly... for a movie where a Norse god fights a green radiation monster for Jeff Goldblum's amusement!?

[Candy Kappa]

Whats wrong with that line

He doesn't like fun movies

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I personally love that line.

If I had my say, Thor would be much more serious, but "Norse DudeBro" is pretty entertaining.

If only his movies were any good. Okay, Thor 1 wasn't BAD... it was just bland. Thor 2 was BAD.

DC may be behind in the CBM game, but Wonder Woman is definitely shaking up to be a much better "demigod/superhero" story than Thor has ever had on the big screen.

[Andrew NDB]

If only his movies were any good. Okay, Thor 1 wasn't BAD... it was just bland. Thor 2 was BAD.

Thor 1 was a pretty good comedy. Thing is... it shouldn't have been a comedy.

Thor 2 isn't good, but that's a rare movie that I feel might actually have been brutalized in the editing room, coupled with the reshoots we know took place about "We need to add more Loki! The ladies really, really want a lot of Loki!" The basic idea and structure of it is sound... it just lacks a lot of emotional resonance and the Elf villain isn't given much of anything to do. I think a lot of stuff that would have made it work was cut out, and a lot of stuff that wasn't needed was thrown into it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Thor 1 was a pretty good comedy. Thing is... it shouldn't have been a comedy.

Thor 2 isn't good, but that's a rare movie that I feel might actually have been brutalized in the editing room, coupled with the reshoots we know took place about "We need to add more Loki! The ladies really, really want a lot of Loki!" The basic idea and structure of it is sound... it just lacks a lot of emotional resonance and the Elf villain isn't given much of anything to do. I think a lot of stuff that would have made it work was cut out, and a lot of stuff that wasn't needed was thrown into it.

Agreed. Although... actually, yeah, now that I think about it, Thor 1 is pretty much a comedy. It feels like a weird superhero romcom. "To regain his title, a royal prince banished from his kingdom must learn about life... and LOVE!" :trolleye:

And Thor 2 was utter tripe. And the core story ideas were sound, except maybe "Jane gets infected by the Red Stone/Mist for Reasons". Dark Elves, war against Asgard, Loki reluctantly fighting alongside Thor, CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON...

Seriously, Eccleston is a great actor. Just give him more than two lines of English dialogue.

And the whole final fight was bollocks. Thor waiting on a subway to rejoin the fight... worst MCU movie yet, and I say that as an adamant hater of Iron Man 3.

[plastroncafe]

Your hate for IM3 almost matches mine for IM2.
Almost.

As for the Thor's...I like them all.
But I'm well aware of my bias of not really wanting/needing/caring to have anything to do with the comics. That's how I feel about pretty much all the Avengers, save for Fraction's run on Hawkeye.

So any changes to the character the movies may make, really don't affect me in any way.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Your hate for IM3 almost matches mine for IM2.
Almost.

As for the Thor's...I like them all.
But I'm well aware of my bias of not really wanting/needing/caring to have anything to do with the comics. That's how I feel about pretty much all the Avengers, save for Fraction's run on Hawkeye.

So any changes to the character the movies may make, really don't affect me in any way.

:tlol: I know!

I'm not actually sure how Thor is presented in the comics... I guess that's why "Dudebro" Thor doesn't bother me; I find him vastly entertaining.

But movies that don't take themselves or their villains/crises seriously do bother me, and that's my biggest complaint regarding Thor 2. Thor 1... it's not bad, I just don't care.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know that I'd put Iron Man 3 below Iron Man 2. It's pretty close, though. It's pretty shocking to me that literally none of the lessons 2 should have taught them were learned from in 3. I mean, I guess they made 3 far less "Let's Set up the Next Avengers Movie" than 2 was, but everything else... yikes. But hey, 3 made a lot of money and it's allowing Shane Black to make a lot of awesome movies like "Nice Guys" and hopefully "The Predator," assuming it's not pants.

I have no idea how Thor is in the comics, either, though I understand second-hand he's more serious and more at a Superman level of power.

[Dust]

I'm excited. Thor 1 I liked and I liked parts of Thor 2, but like others the final fight was a bit crap and Christopher Eccleston was severely underused. This will be the best Thor film, I can just feel it, though it could be a bit clustered, however as long as it's not ASM2 levels of clustered I won't mind.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm excited. Thor 1 I liked and I liked parts of Thor 2, but like others the final fight was a bit crap and Christopher Eccleston was severely underused.

There was reportedly a metric ton more Eccleston and Dark Elves stuff shot. They scraped it all out to make room for more Loki and such.

[plastroncafe]

:tlol: I know!

I'm not actually sure how Thor is presented in the comics... I guess that's why "Dudebro" Thor doesn't bother me; I find him vastly entertaining.

But movies that don't take themselves or their villains/crises seriously do bother me, and that's my biggest complaint regarding Thor 2. Thor 1... it's not bad, I just don't care.

I don't see how it's possible to take characters that are nigh invulnerable seriously in the first place. You can't hurt them, so there's no real drama putting them in situations where OH NOES! THEY'LL GET HURT!

No they won't. They're gods. They don't GET hurt.
(See also why I don't care much about Superman fighting things.)
When I think about characters like this, I'm reminded of this scene from the movie, "Big."
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Which is one of the reasons why I like Thor to be the human equivalent of a golden retriever. And why I will always laugh when he gets knocked out of the frame.

Because he can't get hurt, and when he does...it's only to show how badass the other guy is.

I don't know that I'd put Iron Man 3 below Iron Man 2. It's pretty close, though. It's pretty shocking to me that literally none of the lessons 2 should have taught them were learned from in 3. I mean, I guess they made 3 far less "Let's Set up the Next Avengers Movie" than 2 was, but everything else... yikes. But hey, 3 made a lot of money and it's allowing Shane Black to make a lot of awesome movies like "Nice Guys" and hopefully "The Predator," assuming it's not pants.

I have no idea how Thor is in the comics, either, though I understand second-hand he's more serious and more at a Superman level of power.

See, as someone with PTSD I really REALLY loved IM3.
Not as much as the first IM1, but still a whole lot.
The only superhero movie I love as much as IM1 is Logan.

[Dust]

There was reportedly a metric ton more Eccleston and Dark Elves stuff shot. They scraped it all out to make room for more Loki and such.

I didn't know that, and I would have much preferred more Eccleston and Dark Elves stuff than the Loki stuff, no matter how much I like Hiddleston's performance. Thor 2 was so close to just becoming the Loki movie, did Thor really develop since Avengers? He met Jane again, but that's about it. Oh, and I can't forget Darcy and her assistant, they dragged the film down for me as well. Thor 3 appears to be much more than the Loki movie with an underdeveloped villain, which is good.

[Donatello19]

"I know him from work"

F*ck me, these movies just get worse and worse...

One little joke makes the movie bad?

[ProphetofGanja]

After re-watching every MCU movie in the proper order pretty recently, I have to say the only movies that really felt bad was Thor 2 and Avengers: Age of Ultron. AoU definitely benefited from me being able to pause and take breaks when it slowed down or dragged on.

The think the whole Iron Man trilogy is pretty good. IM3 is definitely better than IM2. Granted, the villains in both movies kind of suck. But I liked the MCU's take on the Mandarin, who I don't think would work as a villain in this day and age. I like the idea of a serious threat using a paid spokesperson to serve as the largely-unwitting face of their criminal enterprise.

But this first Ragnarok trailer looks like the first truly GREAT Thor film. Guess we'll have to see if the movie pulls it off or if the trailer just made it look cool

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't see how it's possible to take characters that are nigh invulnerable seriously in the first place. You can't hurt them, so there's no real drama putting them in situations where OH NOES! THEY'LL GET HURT!

No they won't. They're gods. They don't GET hurt.
(See also why I don't care much about Superman fighting things.)
When I think about characters like this, I'm reminded of this scene from the movie, "Big."
3ERuhks3GNk

Which is one of the reasons why I like Thor to be the human equivalent of a golden retriever. And why I will always laugh when he gets knocked out of the frame.

Because he can't get hurt, and when he does...it's only to show how badass the other guy is.



See, as someone with PTSD I really REALLY loved IM3.
Not as much as the first IM1, but still a whole lot.
The only superhero movie I love as much as IM1 is Logan.

Thor the Golden Retriever. I love it. :tlol:

I'd argue that you can hurt gods, just not physically. Make them weep, destroy the things they've built and the innocents they protect... but I get your point.

I did love the PTSD stuff in Iron Man 3. Again, I like serious stories. Stories that try to be serious but oh-so-funny usually just piss me off.

Logan was the best. Simply the best.

[plastroncafe]

Thor the Golden Retriever. I love it. :tlol:

Don't say Tumblr never gave you nothing! ;)

I'd argue that you can hurt gods, just not physically. Make them weep, destroy the things they've built and the innocents they protect... but I get your point.

Oh truth, but...when people don't understand how to do that...we get movies like Man of Steel and the Snyder-verse.

Which is sad, because we could be getting more movies like Captain America, and Winter Soldier.

I did love the PTSD stuff in Iron Man 3. Again, I like serious stories. Stories that try to be serious but oh-so-funny usually just piss me off.

Logan was the best. Simply the best.

I'll admit that there's a fine line to walk between, but...life isn't JUST dour serious stuff. There's humor and fun to be found in even the darkest times, and the fact that there is, is what makes us human.

[ToTheNines]

After re-watching every MCU movie in the proper order pretty recently

Did you go IM, IM2, Thor, Hulk, Cap? That's the correct phase 1 order, as per a couple retcons/tie-in comics.


The think the whole Iron Man trilogy is pretty good. IM3 is definitely better than IM2. Granted, the villains in both movies kind of suck. But I liked the MCU's take on the Mandarin, who I don't think would work as a villain in this day and age. I like the idea of a serious threat using a paid spokesperson to serve as the largely-unwitting face of their criminal enterprise.

I totally agree that the comic book Mandarin would never work, but it was total bullsh*t that we were lead to believe that they were going to follow up on the 10 Rings terrorist organization from the first movie, only to Rico Swerve us into a lame version of AIM. Complete with no MODOK.

I also can't forgive how ridiculously silly most of the action at the shipping dock was during the big climax. Or the pitiful attempt to make us think Pepper died. Yeah right.

[Andrew NDB]

I totally agree that the comic book Mandarin would never work

He's out there, though. At least, some kind of other Mandarin that's actually of the 10 Rings.

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My guess is they'll save that Mandarin for the Iron Man movie relaunch when they recast after Infinity War.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Don't say Tumblr never gave you nothing! ;)

Oh truth, but...when people don't understand how to do that...we get movies like Man of Steel and the Snyder-verse.

Which is sad, because we could be getting more movies like Captain America, and Winter Soldier.

I'll admit that there's a fine line to walk between, but...life isn't JUST dour serious stuff. There's humor and fun to be found in even the darkest times, and the fact that there is, is what makes us human.

I will never see Thor in a movie the same way now. I'll just be picturing a big wuvable furry puppy wanting me to throw the tennis ball. :tlol:

It absolutely is a fine line. I see it as humor being the salt to the story's meal; it brings out flavor, enhances it, makes it zestier.

But salt shouldn't be a side order. It should not be on the menu. Winter Soldier isn't a funny movie, but there are plenty of great moments and snarky bits in it. Same for Batman Begins.

[ToTheNines]

He's out there, though. At least, some kind of other Mandarin that's actually of the 10 Rings.

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Right. Even before that apology of a short film, there was the Iron Man 3 prequel comics that showed Rhodey wad kicking the 10 Rings ass as Iron Patriot for years. That's why he wasn't present for the big Chitauri fight in Avengers. He was on a mission in Afghanistan or something and didn't get there until right after the schwarma scene. Mandarin even had a partially-off-panel appearance.

So yeah, he's out there somewhere. I doubt they'll ever return to that plot point though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I also can't forgive how ridiculously silly most of the action at the shipping dock was during the big climax. Or the pitiful attempt to make us think Pepper died. Yeah right.

I knew they wouldn't kill Pepper. But I'm pissed they didn't kill Happy.

Actually, I'm pissed at the entire MCU for never killing anyone... except Quicksilver, oddly enough.

WHY did anyone think it was necessary for Happy to survive? Or Rhodes in Civil War?

He's out there, though. At least, some kind of other Mandarin that's actually of the 10 Rings.

My guess is they'll save that Mandarin for the Iron Man movie relaunch when they recast after Infinity War.

You really think they'll recast RDJ that quickly? I figure it'll be a lot longer wait than just Phase 4... they've got Benedict Cumberbatch to do the heavy lifting now, AKA Magic Iron Man.

[Dust]

There's a guy working for the 10 Rings in Ant-Man so I don't think it's completely forgotten about, but I'm not confident it'll get resolved.

[plastroncafe]

I hope it doesn't.
I'm tired of holistic stories that end with 100% resolution.

[ToTheNines]

There's a guy working for the 10 Rings in Ant-Man so I don't think it's completely forgotten about, but I'm not confident it'll get resolved.

Really? I feel like I would have caught that. You sure you're not thinking Hydra?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Really? I feel like I would have caught that. You sure you're not thinking Hydra?

Hydra.

The footage of Hank Pym as Ant-Man fighting soldiers was supposed to be him versus the Ten Rings in an extended opening scene that was cut down to the security footage.

[ProphetofGanja]

Did you go IM, IM2, Thor, Hulk, Cap? That's the correct phase 1 order, as per a couple retcons/tie-in comics.

Oh yeah man, all the way from Iron Man 1 to Dr. Strange (which share a lot of similarities, as people have noted). I haven't read any of the comic tie-ins though, or seen any of the shorts



Everything in the MCU definitely works for the most part, although personal preference plays a big role too.

If somebody is a grimdark edgelord, they might not appreciate the moments of levity in the Marvel films, and might prefer the washed-out, teeth-gritting offerings coming out of the DCEU.

[ToTheNines]

Oh yeah man, all the way from Iron Man 1 to Dr. Strange (which share a lot of similarities, as people have noted). I haven't read any of the comic tie-ins though, or seen any of the shorts

At the very least, I would recommend reading the Fury's Big Week TPB.

Also, Iron Man 2: Public Identity takes place not long after IM1, and features General Ross and flashbacks to Anton Vanko/Howard Stark. It could have been a movie all on it's own. Definitely better than IM2 & 3 lol.

Thor: The Dark World prelude fills in some gaps in Avengers.

Captain America: First Vengeance shows more Cap at War, which is nice considering the movie just had the crappy montage. Shows the Howling Commandos all meeting for the first time too.

As for the shorts, The Consultant was cool and enlightening. It explains Tony's real intentions when he confronts Ross in the bar at the end of TIH. It's like a minute long and readily available on youtube.

The rest are fun, but superfluous.

[Dust]

Hydra.

The footage of Hank Pym as Ant-Man fighting soldiers was supposed to be him versus the Ten Rings in an extended opening scene that was cut down to the security footage.

I could swear there was another guy with the HYDRA guys who had a Ten Rings tattoo

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I could swear there was another guy with the HYDRA guys who had a Ten Rings tattoo

Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised.

[ProphetofGanja]

At the very least, I would recommend reading the Fury's Big Week TPB.

Also, Iron Man 2: Public Identity takes place not long after IM1, and features General Ross and flashbacks to Anton Vanko/Howard Stark. It could have been a movie all on it's own. Definitely better than IM2 & 3 lol.

Thor: The Dark World prelude fills in some gaps in Avengers.

Captain America: First Vengeance shows more Cap at War, which is nice considering the movie just had the crappy montage. Shows the Howling Commandos all meeting for the first time too.

As for the shorts, The Consultant was cool and enlightening. It explains Tony's real intentions when he confronts Ross in the bar at the end of TIH. It's like a minute long and readily available on youtube.

The rest are fun, but superfluous.

Man you know what I just thought? I wouldn't mind reading a whole comic series of the MCU.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I could swear there was another guy with the HYDRA guys who had a Ten Rings tattoo

Deleted scenes have that guy. In the commentary the director specially pointed it out.

[Andrew NDB]

Whoa... Portman IS in it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/taikawaititi/status/860963541624307712

[DestronMirage22]

Whoa... Portman IS in it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/taikawaititi/status/860963541624307712

Hmm...maybe an end credits scene appearance?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Whoa... Portman IS in it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/taikawaititi/status/860963541624307712

Why is she in it? And why is she pregnant? (Or is that just a really bad angle?)

[NinjaPug]

It's a picture from a movie she did 15 years ago. Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that she's in Ragnarok based on his tweet when Feige and Portman have both said she's not in it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's a picture from a movie she did 15 years ago. Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that she's in Ragnarok based on his tweet when Feige and Portman have both said she's not in it.

Thank Odin.

[NinjaPug]

Actually I just saw that Ruffalo is back doing reshoots for Ragnarok now. They might have added something for Jane that they're filming now.

[ranger_scout]

Whoa... Portman IS in it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/taikawaititi/status/860963541624307712

Perhaps they wanted to give her character closure.

[Andrew NDB]

Perhaps they wanted to give her character closure.

I hope so. That was going to bug me.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I hope so. That was going to bug me.

Eh, I'd be fine with never seeing her again. Ever. Pretend she didn't exist.

[Andrew NDB]

Eh, I'd be fine with never seeing her again. Ever. Pretend she didn't exist.

But what a waste. She was his doorway into humanity in the first one, and she joined him in his world in part 2, even got to meet "Mom and Dad"... jettisoning her without so much as a cameo in part 3 is unconscionable.

Lose her dopey friend and her antics, sure.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

But what a waste. She was his doorway into humanity in the first one, and she joined him in his world in part 2, even got to meet "Mom and Dad"... jettisoning her without so much as a cameo in part 3 is unconscionable.

Lose her dopey friend and her antics, sure.

I'll take Darcy over Jane any day.

Maybe it was Portman, maybe it was the script... but both times, it was definitely Portman.

[ssjup81]

But what a waste. She was his doorway into humanity in the first one, and she joined him in his world in part 2, even got to meet "Mom and Dad"... jettisoning her without so much as a cameo in part 3 is unconscionable.

Lose her dopey friend and her antics, sure.I liked her "dopey" friends. They were more entertaining. No Natalie Portman would suit me just fine. I didn't care for the character she played in the first film and it wouldn't bother me if she only had a cameo for the third or wasn't there at all. For the second film, every time she showed up I groaned.

I have no idea why I just don't care for her character.

Edit: Her character was the one who liked Thor,right? If so...I personally found her annoying. No idea why, either. I liked the other characters around her, though...and personally, I favor Loki's character, so if he's there, I'm getting a movie ticket. lol Oh well. Still looking forward to the third installment regardless...even if I don't know the director and stuff.My mistake. I knew I mentioned something like this before. lol

[Cure]

Kat Dennings can get it in so I'll take her fine ass over Natalie Portman.

[ProphetofGanja]

I'll take Darcy over Jane any day.

Maybe it was Portman, maybe it was the script... but both times, it was definitely Portman.

Same :mango:

[Autbot_Benz]

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Hulk Speaks

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

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Hulk Speaks

Well damn. Marvel is convinced to win me over into liking a Thor movie, aren't they? :tlol:

[ZariusTwo]

So they basically gave Thor unfunny Guardians ''humor''. Yeah, good luck getting me in a theater for that the third time.:roll:

[Katie]

I'll probably go see it....but I'm not digging the tired Marvel humor and the Hulk redesign.

They made me dislike Spidey, hopefully they don't kill Hulk for me.

[Spike Spiegel]

I'm totally burned out on the MCU, but I love Jeff Goldblum in anything and like what I saw from Hulk.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I'm totally burned out on the MCU, but I love Jeff Goldblum in anything and like what I saw from Hulk.


ANYTHING, you say??!! What about....

https://youtu.be/nE5uofsDeIg

[Spike Spiegel]

ANYTHING, you say??!! What about....

https://youtu.be/nE5uofsDeIg

I'll see your 80s cheese and raise you a surrealist comedy skit.

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[Andrew NDB]

Who knew that Thor would become the comedic tentpole of the MCU?

[Xav]

Perhaps they wanted to give her character closure.https://media.giphy.com/media/xT5LMtGts8cNovyZEY/giphy.gif

[plastroncafe]

Who knew that Thor would become the comedic tentpole of the MCU?

Anyone who saw the first movie?
I mean, the premise alone is ridiculous...

[Galactus]

Who knew that Thor would become the comedic tentpole of the MCU?

The whole fish out of water of being a viking god in modern times has long been used for light comic relief in depictions of Thor in various media so I don't think this is much of a stretch. If the actual ragnarok scenes are reasonably serious action sequences then I'll personally have zero problem with this.

Kinda bizarre that Marvel have made people just as-if not more hyped for Thor than WB has for Justice League. I've argued on here before that Marvel could make a better Superman movie based on the idea that they've sold an earnest, boy scout character in Captain America, all they'd need to do is add a bit of wry humour you'd get Superman which is what they've done with Thor here. It could also be taken as an example of how to do a character with a very similar power set. Watching this trailer I couldn't help but think of Superman's own gladiator story on Warworld. The possibilities DC could have with the character if they had not been set on full fulling their three decades old ambition of doing the Death of Superman.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I'll see your 80s cheese and raise you a surrealist comedy skit.

XL5ZcanUslI


Four words- Earth Girls Are Easy. That is all.....

[snake]

Thor could've been a trilogy of mythology-based epics, but nah. We got Guardians-Lite instead.

[Spike Spiegel]

Watching this trailer I couldn't help but think of Superman's own gladiator story on Warworld. The possibilities DC could have with the character if they had not been set on full fulling their three decades old ambition of doing the Death of Superman.

I agree; DC's pantheon can still be fun without losing their iconic status or devolving into Adam West style camp. Putting these kinds of characters in situations other than the usual "fight the big bad, save the city/world" helps define who they are as people.

I think there was a Wonder Woman storyline in the 1990s where she was a freedom-fighting space pirate for a short time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Thor could've been a trilogy of mythology-based epics, but nah. We got Guardians-Lite instead.

Agreed. Still hoping Thor 3 will be better, though...

[snake]

Agreed. Still hoping Thor 3 will be better, though...

I think anything is better than Whor 2 by default.

[MikeandRaph87]

What style is that being used for the title? The text look like simething out of 1980s media.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think anything is better than Whor 2 by default.

I'm still disappointed in that movie. Christopher Eccleston is a great actor, but they didn't use him as anything more than a paperweight...

[snake]

I'm still disappointed in that movie. Christopher Eccleston is a great actor, but they didn't use him as anything more than a paperweight...

Did he even have lines in that movie? I legit can't remember a thing about it except the giant superweapon-of-the-week thing crashing into washington.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Did he even have lines in that movie? I legit can't remember a thing about it except the giant superweapon-of-the-week thing crashing into washington.

Yeah. I think they were all in Elvish, too. :tlol:

Subtitles FTW!

[NinjaPug]

Did he even have lines in that movie? I legit can't remember a thing about it except the giant superweapon-of-the-week thing crashing into washington.

I'd love to see the original version of this movie before they decided to cut a bunch of stuff just to get more screentime for Loki.

[plastroncafe]

As much as I was entertained by Thor 3, Eccleston was criminally underused. As was Lee Pace in the first Guardians movie.

I think it's just easy for me to not expect much from Thor, because I could not possibly have cared less about his comic book if I tried.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

As much as I was entertained by Thor 3, Eccleston was criminally underused. As was Lee Pace in the first Guardians movie.

I think it's just easy for me to not expect much from Thor, because I could not possibly have cared less about his comic book if I tried.

Ronan wasn't quite as bad for me as Eccleston's character. But yeah, Lee Pace is another great actor.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm still disappointed in that movie. Christopher Eccleston is a great actor, but they didn't use him as anything more than a paperweight...

Definitely, definitely many large scenes were removed with him. Eccleston was not happy with what they did with his role in post.

I'd love to see the original version of this movie before they decided to cut a bunch of stuff just to get more screentime for Loki.

Yep.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Definitely, definitely many large scenes were removed with him. Eccleston was not happy with what they did with his role in post.

Yep.

At that point in the MCU, it was still conceivable that a villain might get lots of screentime and development. :tlol:

What might have been...

[ToTheNines]

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[Cure]

Early impressions are out and...I dunno. I'm tired of the best praise people have for these movies being "they're hilarious!" Marvel movies being made for hyucks is annoying and makes them all feel samey.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The Guardians of the Galaxy formula worked and now every movie has to be like Guardians. I'm sure I'll like it well enough but this will be another missed opportunity to do something sincere with the Thor mythos.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Early impressions are out and...I dunno. I'm tired of the best praise people have for these movies being "they're hilarious!" Marvel movies being made for hyucks is annoying and makes them all feel samey.

I quite agree. Making Ragnorak a comedy just feels so weird. It's supposed to be the end of all things, right? Doom, destruction, maybe even a little despair?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Doom, destruction, maybe even a little despair?

But none of those rhyme with, 'FUN!' :trazz:

[CyberCubed]

Four words- Earth Girls Are Easy. That is all.....


LOL, I actually just watched that movie recently for the first time ever....one of the most bizarre movies I've ever seen. Seeing an early/young Jim Carrey before he became famous was surreal as well, especially since he had blonde hair in the movie.

Also Geena Davis in her bikini, jesus christ. I can see how she got so many lead roles in Thelma and Louise, Beetlejuice, Change Up with Bill Murray, and The Long Kiss Goodnight with Samuel L. Jackson after that.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm seeing a pretty big Hela spoiler making the rounds today... I think it's a pretty sensible change to canon; simplifies things for the movie audience.

[ProphetofGanja]

I'm seeing a pretty big Hela spoiler making the rounds today... I think it's a pretty sensible change to canon; simplifies things for the movie audience.

I haven't but I feel like I know what the few most likely options are. Can't say I mind.

[TigerClaw]

It currently has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, due to one rotten review.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/

and IGN gave it a 7.7.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/19/thor-ragnarok-review?read

[ZariusTwo]

It currently has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, due to one rotten review.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/

"My man":D

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wacky. Fun. Funny. Jokes. Humor.

Reading that negative review, yeah...

Marvel hasn't needed my box office money since Phase 1. I'll be watching this one for free after home release.

[plastroncafe]

Where as I've already got tickets for a 10 pm opening night viewing.
w00t!

[ProphetofGanja]

I read a couple reviews for this today, and I'm excited for it. I don't think it's going to convert any DCCU-over-MCU moviegoers, but it'll get my money at least. I'd rather see a comic book movie that can laugh at itself than one that takes itself sooo seriously (looking at you, DCCU).

[RaphaelinSTL]

I read a couple reviews for this today, and I'm excited for it. I don't think it's going to convert any DCCU-over-MCU moviegoers, but it'll get my money at least. I'd rather see a comic book movie that can laugh at itself than one that takes itself sooo seriously (looking at you, DCCU).

same here.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's not a matter of DC versus Marvel for me. My favorite Marvel movies are the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and Ant-Man.

I'm just not interested in a third funny Thor movie. At least everyone seems to agree it's the best Thor movie yet. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

Were the first two Thor movies considered funny? The first one had some fun moments, but I wouldn't say it was comedy based. The second one was a bore, I don't even remember half of it.

[TigerClaw]

That one negative review came from Variety, here's what it says.
http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/thor-ragnarok-review-cate-blanchett-1202594143/

While it's not saying much, "Thor: Ragnarok" is easily the best of the three Thor movies - or maybe I just think so because its screenwriters and I finally seem to agree on one thing: The Thor movies are preposterous.

That review is saying that the Thor movies have always been sh*t, though I don't they were, each movie had a different director, and the 3rd Thor movie seems to have taken it to the right direction.

I looking forward to this one, I'm more interested in seeing Thor going to other worlds besides always being on Earth, what this 3rd movie presents is a welcome change, seeing Thor going to other worlds, especially if its the one based on Planet Hulk.

[TigerClaw]

I thought this clip was funny.

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It starts out very heartfelt, and then gets funny at the end.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Were the first two Thor movies considered funny? The first one had some fun moments, but I wouldn't say it was comedy based. The second one was a bore, I don't even remember half of it.

Thor 2 was practically nothing BUT comedy. That's not saying it was funny--most of it fell flat.

And yeah, Thor 1 was a ton of comedy, too. Thor getting tazed, smashing crockery, fish out of water on earth... all that. :trolleye:

[ZariusTwo]

I'd rather see a comic book movie that can laugh at itself

But the thing is, most MCU movies f*cking do that. It's tedious at this point.

I thought this clip was funny.

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It starts out very heartfelt, and then gets funny at the end.

It doesn't.

[Shark_Blade]

Meh I'm not feeling this movie... I look forward to Justice League more.

[newfan]

We're getting it on the 24th here, I'm definitely going to see it.

[Katie]

But the thing is, most MCU movies f*cking do that. It's tedious at this point.

I agree 100%. Phase 1 was fun to watch....then I got tierd of all the movies basically having the same tone and plot line. I’ve skipped most of the recent individual hero movies and I haven’t missed anything. Let me guess....Ant Man faced an evil shrink suit villian and Dr. Strange fights an evil magic guy? SOSDD. At least Spider-man didn’t fight Venom, but they ruined him for me by taking away spider sense in favor of a mini Iron Man suit and begging to be on the Avengers constantly.

Hero is there, faces the villian which is an evil version of self, snarky humor during fight, advertise the next movie. :sleep: It will be interesting to see if the MCU survives the inevitable “retirement” of RDJ, Evans, et al.

[plastroncafe]

There's no accounting for taste.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought this clip was funny.

*youtube clip*

It looks like it suffers from the exact same problem GotG2 had, where they don't want the audience to think too hard about the characters, so they're all made to be comedians bantering at each other.

Were the first two Thor movies considered funny? The first one had some fun moments, but I wouldn't say it was comedy based. The second one was a bore, I don't even remember half of it.

First one was fine but the second was a comedy. Thor's very entrance into the film is a joke. Every human character aside from Jane is a vehicle for jokes.

[Vegita-San]

I'm not digging thors new haircut. looks weird.

other than that, I enjoyed the last two movies, although I liked the first one more. I would have expected a bit more fun with janes visit to asgard than what we got. but it felt like she didn't interact with as many people as she should have from the first mo vie.

[Shark_Blade]

Guess what? Jane's not gonna be in this 3rd movie. She broke up with Thor.

Now Thor's got the hots for the new girl in the movie from what I read. Ugh, cringe.

[CyberCubed]

Natalie Portman didn't want to come back again, who cares.

[Shark_Blade]

She's important since the beginning, so that's another huge loss for this movie.

[TigerClaw]

I heard Lady Sif isn't in the movie either, her last appearance was on an episode of Agents of Shield, they asked Kevin Feige why she's not in it.
http://screenrant.com/thor-ragnarok-lady-sif/

[ssjup81]

She's important since the beginning, so that's another huge loss for this movie.Not for me...didn't like the character she played...but aside from that, I wish they wouldn't bother with a love interest period.

[Katie]

There's no accounting for taste.

Totally. I can’t belive people don’t see how repetitive and grating these movies have become.

But, taste is subjective in all art and I know a lot of people enjoy the predictable formula of a Marvel movie and prefer no changes to that formula. While I know that comment was aimed at me, These movies have not been my cuppa tea in years. I find most (well pretty much all of them recently) of the Marvel movies extremely grating. Avengers 3 better be amazingly different. It’s the only one I’m interested in seeing in the theater of any of the upcoming MCU movies.

[TigerClaw]

She's important since the beginning, so that's another huge loss for this movie.
Jane Foster seems like a wasted opportunity in the MCU, in the comics she became the female Thor.

Kevin Feige hasnt ruled out the possibility of a female Thor.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justice_league/marvels-kevin-feige-isnt-ruling-out-the-possibility-of-a-female-thor-taking-over-from-chris-hemsworth-a154662

[ZariusTwo]

Jane Foster seems like a wasted opportunity in the MCU, in the comics she became the female Thor.

Aka the poster child for Marvel's crumbling sales.

[Spike Spiegel]

Totally. I can’t belive people don’t see how repetitive and grating these movies have become.

These movies have not been my cuppa tea in years. I find most (well pretty much all of them recently) of the Marvel movies extremely grating. Avengers 3 better be amazingly different. It’s the only one I’m interested in seeing in the theater of any of the upcoming MCU movies.

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nodding-gif-1.gif

[drgon78]

I actually like Jane Foster's character in the movies though I wasn't that big on her sidekick. Personally if they are not going to have her in the 3rd movie it would have been better for Thor to not have a new love interest. Also why no Sif and the Warriors Three?