Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 1: Beyond the Known Universe

[GoldMutant]

(Didn't see anyone make the thread yet and the episode airs today, apologies to everyone and you Machias. Can we please get this stickied though?)

New season, new developments, and new adventures to foretell of. The wait is over at long last as season 4 finally begins!

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-new-intro-clip.html

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/digital-short-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-bts-lets-go-to-space.html

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-401-clip.html

Where will the Turtles, Casey, and April go from last season with a certain professor, or should I say doctor? What new surprises await beyond the confirmed creatures for this season? Fasten your seatbelts ladies and gentlemen, it's showtime!

[kelligrafie]

I am SO ready for this episode. :trazz:

[TurFlytle]

I hope we get some Star Wars, Star Trek and Dr. Who references during this arc.

[TigerClaw]

Almost time. :)

[GoldMutant]

Hey guys and gals just wanted to ask a quick question: if you got ideas for the usual episode poll, can you give some suggestions please? :)

With that said, blastoff time.

[TurFlytle]

It's time! :)

[TigerClaw]

Here we go!

[TurFlytle]

Nice sounds.

[Etsyturtle2]

Almost time for me

[TurFlytle]

Woah, trippy.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Hmmm, new intro. Cool! :D

[Etsyturtle2]

Loving fugitoid!

[TurFlytle]

They did their research.

[GoldMutant]

Turning back time, really? :roll:

Come on I know they're following the book, but even with the time frame, that's a serious cop out of a fix. At the very least, the visuals for space are spectacular to see, animation really got boosted.

[TurFlytle]

I see what you did there...

[TurFlytle]

Federation?

[ObiWanFan4life]

I'm surprised that they didn't make a "never tell me the odds" joke.

[TigerClaw]

Casey Jones just said, Were out like Vanilla Ice.

[TurFlytle]

Oh god, this is like Star Wars.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Good to know that Tatooine hasn't changed much throughout the years.

[TurFlytle]

Lord Dregg!

[TigerClaw]

and here's Lord Dregg.

[TurFlytle]

Also, Dregg's body is disgusting.

[cookie jar]

Smooth Leo :lol:

[ObiWanFan4life]

I wonder why they did the turning back time thing so early.

[TurFlytle]

Well, it's confirmed The Federation exists.

[ObiWanFan4life]

If they make a pod racing joke, I'm out.

[Etsyturtle2]

I like seeing all the guts and junk in Dregg. Also Casey made a vanilla ice reference and I heard fugitoid mention federation.

[TurFlytle]

Cool moves, Dregg.

[TurFlytle]

A spaceship that makes babies?

[saintsaucey]

If they cant see fit to give me an april in her space suit... complete with her ray gun

[TurFlytle]

That's new.

[Etsyturtle2]

A www. Space apples.

[TigerClaw]

Raph says. "I just got a phone call from I DONT GIVE A FLYING--"

[TurFlytle]

It's nice hat they had a dedication to someone at the end.

[cookie jar]

It was entertaining episode.

[pannoni1]

I hope we get some Star Wars, Star Trek and Dr. Who references during this arc.

Definitely ST/SW were found, starting at the very beginning. I still haven't watched Dr. Who, but that's what the Fugitoid is for. Now, on to the first interplanetary confrontation of extraterrestrial fruits based on the closing for the next episode. A pretty decent way of starting the new season, and even though the time travel was soon, the six months rule and urgency about black holes still makes this a 13-episode journey that needs to be accomplished. I like the animation they used, from the language that the Fugitoid uses to the way the Turtles/April float to the effects used on the first planet. This should have been how Season 9 of the OT should have began looking back.

I'd love to see the Turtleoid make an appearance sometime this season, too.

Show Grade: 8.5/10

[The Happy One]

Fantastic, Spectacular, Super Awesome Episode!!!!!!

Okay, it was hilarious and a little sad at the beginning. We saw some Turtle Tears....:(

We saw an on point, badass, and pretty, all around great April O’Neil. Like, they really enhanced her charcter by 1,000%. :D

We saw smooooth Donatello and smoooth Leonardo.;)

Mikey was adorable!! Squeeee!

Casey and Raph? That was the bromance I've been missing for days!!!!
And...language boys, language!

And last but not least, David Tennant KIllED it! Loving Fugitoids dry humor already:lol:

The animation was beautiful and this episode was just top notch.

[JTH]

Very nice opener to a new season.

Guessing they'll get blown out of space to start next week.

Funny how they end up on Newtralizer's planet after all that. :D

[GoldMutant]

This episode is severely disappointing to me, but okay nonetheless. The visuals were good yes, but my gosh were the characters stupid, especially the motive of Dregg in this incarnation. Seriously, a grocery is why he hates them?

In addition, I don't like the time reversal nonsense, I'm calling the entire Earth destruction blow up for nothing at this point. With that said, good visuals and a nice set up to episode 2. I'm still on the fence overall, but I'm leaning towards mixed on the whole episode on the negative spectrum.

[Powder]

That was so awesome, what a great start we're off to. & it's getting edgier, too!

I was so sure that chick Leo was talking to was Starly, based on her color palette... I wonder if we'll see more of her. I kinda hope so.

[TurFlytle]

If the Federation exists, will Blanque and Zanramon appear?

[The Happy One]

This episode is severely disappointing to me, but okay nonetheless. The visuals were good yes, but my gosh were the characters stupid, especially the motive of Dregg in this incarnation. Seriously, a grocery is why he hates them?

In addition, I don't like the time reversal nonsense, I'm calling the entire Earth destruction blow up for nothing at this point. With that said, good visuals and a nice set up to episode 2. I'm still on the fence overall, but I'm leaning towards mixed on the whole episode on the negative spectrum.

W-What?

Well...I...I'm so sorry you disliked it that much...but...yikes that bad? How else were they gonna get earth back? Build a new one?

And I'd be pretty mad if I spent 5 million on something six kids just broke. He's a haughty guy so of course he'd be mad that they even touched him.
It made sense to me and I loved it a ton....but, to each his own I suppose. :ohwell:

[Vicky82]

Wow that was awesome. It was a little sad at the beginning but got really funny. The animation was beautiful. I can't wait till next week.

[TigerClaw]

Definitely ST/SW were found, starting at the very beginning. I still haven't watched Dr. Who, but that's what the Fugitoid is for. Now, on to the first interplanetary confrontation of extraterrestrial fruits based on the closing for the next episode. A pretty decent way of starting the new season, and even though the time travel was soon, the six months rule and urgency about black holes still makes this a 13-episode journey that needs to be accomplished. I like the animation they used, from the language that the Fugitoid uses to the way the Turtles/April float to the effects used on the first planet. This should have been how Season 9 of the OT should have began looking back.

I'd love to see the Turtleoid make an appearance sometime this season, too.

Show Grade: 8.5/10
I wouldn't be surprise if the Turtles end up on a planet of the Turtleoids in Season 4.

[JTH]

Also, definitely love the updated...classic April look.

[TigerClaw]

I thought the episode was pretty good, The animation has very much improved.

The next episode will introduce us to Sal Commander and Mona Lisa.

[GoldMutant]

W-What?

Well...I...I'm so sorry you disliked it that much...but...yikes that bad? How else were they gonna get earth back? Build a new one?

And I'd be pretty mad if I spent 5 million on something six kids just broke. He's a haughty guy so of course he'd be mad that they even touched him.
It made sense to me and I loved it a ton....but, to each his own I suppose. :ohwell:

Well, there's no other way to do it, but the way they fixed is based on the book. It just feels.... off putting to say the least. I didn't like the healing hands for being a cop out, but this feels like a cop out somewhat to me. I'm against these easy fixes; correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they need objects to reverse time?

Still, there's better motives other than crying over a spilled object. Money or not, I find it a laughably bad motive for revenge; I'd rather have Dregg get a better motive, it makes him so kid like.

Look, if you like the episode, kudos to you. :) I myself am critical on this show now, I have been against many things now compared to starting on the drome, but it's still laughable on the stupidity of the episode. Oh well, next episode I'm hoping for something good, especially since it's Mona Lisa returning plus the Triceratons. Hopefully.... :ohwell:

[JTH]

Well, there's no other way to do it, but the way they fixed is based on the book. It just feels.... off putting to say the least. I didn't like the healing hands for being a cop out, but this feels like a cop out somewhat to me. I'm against these easy fixes; correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they need objects to reverse time?

Still, there's better motives other than crying over a spilled object. Money or not, I find it a laughably bad motive for revenge; I'd rather have Dregg get a better motive, it makes him so kid like.

Look, if you like the episode, kudos to you. :) I myself am critical on this show now, I have been against many things now compared to starting on the drome, but it's still laughable on the stupidity of the episode. Oh well, next episode I'm hoping for something good, especially since it's Mona Lisa returning plus the Triceratons. Hopefully.... :ohwell:
Why do people say this?

It's not based on the book. It's the other way around.

[The Happy One]

Well, there's no other way to do it, but the way they fixed is based on the book. It just feels.... off putting to say the least. I didn't like the healing hands for being a cop out, but this feels like a cop out somewhat to me. I'm against these easy fixes; correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they need objects to reverse time?

Still, there's better motives other than crying over a spilled object. Money or not, I find it a laughably bad motive for revenge; I'd rather have Dregg get a better motive, it makes him so kid like.

Look, if you like the episode, kudos to you. :) I myself am critical on this show now, I have been against many things now compared to starting on the drome, but it's still laughable on the stupidity of the episode. Oh well, next episode I'm hoping for something good, especially since it's Mona Lisa returning plus the Triceratons. Hopefully.... :ohwell:

Well, y'know, I can respect that. If there was any other way to reverse it, then sure. But...it's fine. I shouldn't have overreacted like that, so I must apologize.

And I gotta agree on those healing hands.. and the fact that the visuals were absolutely stunning.

Hope I didn't offend you, man :)

[ToTheNines]

Kind of a pointless episode, no? I loved Tennant, April's spacesuit and gun and Dregg's design. Also LOVED Leo's Space Heroes stuff, season 1 really sold me on this version of him so it's good to see them harken back to that geeky, innocent aspect of him.

But other than that it felt like a huge regression on Auman's part. I thought he really stepped his game up in season 3, but this is more of his usual spastic, nonsensical, and convenient story plotting. The second act had some laughs but was just dumb as hell.

Rest of the season should be cool though, especially next week.


I was so sure that chick Leo was talking to was Starly, based on her color palette... I wonder if we'll see more of her. I kinda hope so.

Hope so, I'm fairly sure that was Lawless... would hate for that to be her only episode.

[GoldMutant]

Well, y'know, I can respect that. If there was any other way to reverse it, then sure. But...it's fine. I shouldn't have overreacted like that, so I must apologize.

And I gotta agree on those healing hands.. and the fact that the visuals were absolutely stunning.

Hope I didn't offend you, man :)

No worries, all is good. :)

Now, does anyone have an idea on taglines for the poll?

[Vicky82]

IGN Review

8.8 :D

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/10/25/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-beyond-the-known-universe-review?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[TurFlytle]

Definitely ST/SW were found, starting at the very beginning. I still haven't watched Dr. Who, but that's what the Fugitoid is for.

Well, we have a Dr. Who reference with the time travel.

[Vicky82]

I remember from that twitch interview from the NYCC that they said they gonna mostly use British SCFI references so possibly Red Dwarf, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ect

[Ninturtle]

Well, there's no other way to do it, but the way they fixed is based on the book. It just feels.... off putting to say the least. I didn't like the healing hands for being a cop out, but this feels like a cop out somewhat to me. I'm against these easy fixes; correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they need objects to reverse time?

Still, there's better motives other than crying over a spilled object. Money or not, I find it a laughably bad motive for revenge; I'd rather have Dregg get a better motive, it makes him so kid like.

Look, if you like the episode, kudos to you. :) I myself am critical on this show now, I have been against many things now compared to starting on the drome, but it's still laughable on the stupidity of the episode. Oh well, next episode I'm hoping for something good, especially since it's Mona Lisa returning plus the Triceratons. Hopefully.... :ohwell:

Dreggs a violent crime lord of course he'd attack the turtles for costing him a huge amount of money.

[Vicky82]

They like to destroy our hearts don't they :cry:

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[OrangeNinja1987]

Great episode. I loved almost everything about it and it would surely get a 10/10 in my book if it hadn't been for the stupid way of fixing the Earth in the first episode! That removed so much tension and emotional motivation for the turtles, and now it's extremely obvious that after the space arc that things will go back to the status quo and everything will be fine and dandy.
I don't see any other solution to the destruction of earth other than time travel, but in the first episode of the season? Really!?
Kind of funny that the episode began with the retelling of what happened in the season finale, only to have the new theme song recap yet again seconds later. Meh. Both did a good job of it.
But besides that stuff, spectacular episode. April's character was amazingly well done this episode, and I loved seeing that Raph and Casey moment fighting with the weapons. Totally a teenage thing to do.
Geeky Leo is back (I've been missing him!) and the space visuals are stunning. Actually, all of it is stunning. The animation is top-notch.
Tons of funny jokes, great voice acting. Nothing was annoying, even Casey.
Who was the person the episode was dedicated to at the end? It was really kind of them to do that.
I was going to give this episode an 8/10 for the dumb time travel, but now that I've thought about the overwhelming good parts, I'll give it a solid 9/10.

[Vicky82]

Great episode. I loved almost everything about it and it would surely get a 10/10 in my book if it hadn't been for the stupid way of fixing the Earth in the first episode! That removed so much tension and emotional motivation for the turtles, and now it's extremely obvious that after the space arc that things will go back to the status quo and everything will be fine and dandy.
I don't see any other solution to the destruction of earth other than time travel, but in the first episode of the season? Really!?
Kind of funny that the episode began with the retelling of what happened in the season finale, only to have the new theme song recap yet again seconds later. Meh. Both did a good job of it.
But besides that stuff, spectacular episode. April's character was amazingly well done this episode, and I loved seeing that Raph and Casey moment fighting with the weapons. Totally a teenage thing to do.
Geeky Leo is back (I've been missing him!) and the space visuals are stunning. Actually, all of it is stunning. The animation is top-notch.
Tons of funny jokes, great voice acting. Nothing was annoying, even Casey.
Who was the person the episode was dedicated to at the end? It was really kind of them to do that.
I was going to give this episode an 8/10 for the dumb time travel, but now that I've thought about the overwhelming good parts, I'll give it a solid 9/10.

Don't forget, they've only got 1 shot at this and they will be under a lot of pressure, so this will get them motivated to stop Triceratons destroying earth and stop Shredder killing Splinter. If they make mistakes, then I expect there will be tension and become more emotional motivated.

[Raven]

Did the earth really get destroyed? I was under the assumption it was lost in a vortex like state, my knowledge of black holes is pretty sparse. So them retrieving the pieces and putting the planet back together seems plausible to a degree.

Or do black holes obliterate stuff instantly?

[TigerClaw]

With them going back 6 months before the Earth was destroyed, I wonder if they will go back to Earth and see there past selves, which would be a Back to the Future style time paradox.

[JTH]

With them going back 6 months before the Earth was destroyed, I wonder if they will go back to Earth and see there past selves, which would be a Back to the Future style time paradox.
No.

There is no "past selves"

[TigerClaw]

No.

There is no "past selves"
If you go back in time 6 months and they go to earth during that, you might stumble upon your past self.

[JTH]

If you go back in time 6 months and they go to earth during that, you might stumble upon your past self.
No, They were on the ship and thus unaffected by the changes in the time line.

This isn't like BttF time paradox where they just popped up 6 months in the past. This is Superman: The Movie time paradox where he reversed time to save Lois from dying in the earthquake. There was no "Past Superman", they'll be no "Past Turtles".

[Metalwolf]

Did the earth really get destroyed? I was under the assumption it was lost in a vortex like state, my knowledge of black holes is pretty sparse. So them retrieving the pieces and putting the planet back together seems plausible to a degree.

Or do black holes obliterate stuff instantly?Yes. Black Holes tear part matter, and compress the matter into a singularity so small and dense (with super strong gravity any light can't even escape) that the whole Earth's matter based on what I've read would have been 'compressed' to the size of a golf ball. :)

[kelligrafie]

The whole 'past self' thing is a bit contentious. The only way we're going to ever find out how time travel works is for time travel to actually exist or happen.

Please don't turn this thread into a debate about the merits/faults of various time travel theories and books/films based upon it. Because all that will happen is people will get all authorative (sp) on a subject that is very much undefined and barely explored by all manner of experts.



I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was a good opener. I enjoyed the gags. I enjoyed the multiple science fiction references and nods.

It was good to see the six turtles and humans really coming together in different combinations and team ups during fight scenes.

A little bit of Raphael/Casey brotherly weapon bonding.

A bit of Leo being a charmer.

They let Michelangelo go off on his own though? I know he was a bonafide genius in Generation X but still a bit bizarre that they'd allow him to walk about what is essentially a haven for all manner of space criminals.

[Raven]

Yes. Black Holes tear part matter, and compress the matter into a singularity so small and dense (with super strong gravity any light can't even escape) that the whole Earth's matter based on what I've read would have been 'compressed' to the size of a golf ball. :)

So the object still exists, it doesn't down right destroy the contents. So as long as the object in question exists they could in theory return it to its natural form?

[Vicky82]

They let Michelangelo go off on his own though? I know he was a bonafide genius in Generation X but still a bit bizarre that they'd allow him to walk about what is essentially a haven for all manner of space criminals.

Yeah, I was surprised by that too being in a unfamiliar place but he does go out alone in New York sometimes.

Also I was happy that they all messed up and that it wasn't just Mikey.

[Coola Yagami]

Wow.... where's the break between seasons?

See, this is also part of the problem. Season 3 just ended and now we're jumping into season 4? There's usually.... oh I don't know.. a BREAK between seasons. Without this forum, I would have just thought this was the next episode of season 3 with a new intro.

This is why they have so many stupid breaks in between episodes, because they don't know when to take one and when not to. Take a month off so you can finish enough episodes so we don't get another 'break' after 2 new episodes or so.

[JTH]

Wow.... where's the break between seasons?

See, this is also part of the problem. Season 3 just ended and now we're jumping into season 4? There's usually.... oh I don't know.. a BREAK between seasons. Without this forum, I would have just thought this was the next episode of season 3 with a new intro.

This is why they have so many stupid breaks in between episodes, because they don't know when to take one and when not to. Take a month off so you can finish enough episodes so we don't get another 'break' after 2 new episodes or so.
...They did take a month off.

Or am I missing the point of this? :ohwell:

[Allio]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Mikey said "Language?"

[shredder orokusaki]

I give it 9/10! Lot of action but the aliens were stupid not so much powerful and scary as iwas expecting. Lord Dregg was awesome! The coward turtles instead of figthing him escaped him! BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS!!! Where was it cornfirmed that Federation exists?

[TigerClaw]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Mikey said "Language?"
When someone says Asteroids.

[CyberCubed]

Did this episode really remind anyone else of Fast Forward? It was like a mix of 4kids Turtles in Space and Fast Forward. Turtles get new suits/weapons, they fight random aliens, Mike tries to eat alien food, etc.

I wish Lord Dregg's voice was deeper and more menacing like in the original cartoon but other than that it was good.

[ToTheNines]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Mikey said "Language?"

Heh, I get it.

[BlueKatana]

Hoping we get a Space/Jumpsuit April figure now.

[matteso586]

For those of you that are upset about the Dregg and grocery thing. I think there's a valid reason for Dregg to be upset over his grocery. Remember Legend of the Kuro Kabuto?

[Autbot_Benz]

Hoping we get a Space/Jumpsuit April figure now.

don't hold your breath. Had this been 80's playmates probably yes. Current Playmates doesn't wanna make many female figures for some reason. I still don't believe we are getting human Karai till I see it.

[Coola Yagami]

...They did take a month off.

Or am I missing the point of this? :ohwell:

Didn't they just air the season finale a week or so ago, and then just re-runned it past Sunday?

[TurFlytle]

Didn't they just air the season finale a week or so ago, and then just re-runned it past Sunday?

No, that was like on September 21/27. Jeez, time goes fast for you.

[Vicky82]

Didn't they just air the season finale a week or so ago, and then just re-runned it past Sunday?

The season final aired on September 27th (but aired a week early on Nick.com). The season final that aired last week was a rerun.

[Raph's Girl]

Oh so Fugitoid IS a time lord...sorta. I guess the earth being destroyed isn't a fixed point so they have a chance to change history.

That alien Leo was flirting with...My emediate thought was "Oh look...alien Twilight Sparkle..."

And what a way to piss off Dregg. *sighs* Yeah sure tell the king of all bugs that you like to stomp on his people. Also, uh Dregg...there's some certain Power Ranger villains who'd like to talk to you about being the ruler of all insects... :P

[JTH]

Didn't they just air the season finale a week or so ago, and then just re-runned it past Sunday?
The finale premiered on Sept. 27, technically they put it up on the website as soon as Dinosaur in Sewers! ended on the 20th.

So it's been a month.

The Season 3 Premiere aired a week after the Season 2 finale aired, but they also ran off 6 straight episodes after that. Though I don't recall anyone making anything of it when it happened either.

[TurFlytle]

That alien Leo was flirting with...My emediate thought was "Oh look...alien Twilight Sparkle..."


Well, I thought I was the only one. It's more like Equestria Girl Twilight Sparkle.

[Ceres]

I never thought i'd say that but this version of Dregg is really interesting! Way better as the old version. Even i hate bugs with my life and can't stand them, something of his character makes me like him :D. If he is a recurring character in the space arc i can life with that.

The whole time-travelling was meh in my opinion but some things never change probably.

[victory_angel]

W-What?

Well...I...I'm so sorry you disliked it that much...but...yikes that bad? How else were they gonna get earth back? Build a new one?

And I'd be pretty mad if I spent 5 million on something six kids just broke. He's a haughty guy so of course he'd be mad that they even touched him.
It made sense to me and I loved it a ton....but, to each his own I suppose. :ohwell:

Also in the Star Wars Universe, Spice is a kind of drug. So that sort of gives a new perspective on what Dregg was actually buying.

[GoldMutant]

Any chance someone can sticky the episode please?

[evan2000]

Can't believe they actually got away with so many things in this ep!

"Check me out April! Hehehe... two for the price of one ;)"

Also this could possibly be poking fun at the occasional animation errors in the OT where two of the same turtle were duplicated on screen:

http://i.imgur.com/V8wxEfk.jpg

[TurFlytle]

So how do you feel about this episode of Star Wars Rebels? :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

This episode was awesome. Loved Geeky Leo and Flirty Leo, too. Also loved their reaction to the space suits, the introduction to Lord Dregg, and their exploits on that fueling station. Needless to say, they didn't fare so well, and now they have to deal with a Triceraton fleet again. Loved the opening narration by Leo. Made me feel like I was watching the 2003 series and I loved the flashbacks to what happened before. April's space suit was awesome, and I laughed at how Donnie and Casey reacted and how she reacted to them ogling her. Tennant is awesome as the Fugitoid. Can't wait to see if there's some Doctor Who references next time. Overall, a pretty awesome start to season 4.

Bring on the next episode.

[Etsyturtle2]

April in the jumpsuit was great, she just needs to pull that zipper down just a bit.:P. What? Getting that ot look, right? Also she needs to take out that pony tail and voila!

[Allio]

at least Leo has taste in alien women.

[The Happy One]

Yeah, I was surprised by that too being in a unfamiliar place but he does go out alone in New York sometimes.

Also I was happy that they all messed up and that it wasn't just Mikey.

Ha! Yeah, he fared a bit better than the rest of them...*ahem* Leo...:lol:

[DVD]

So how do you feel about this episode of Star Wars Rebels? :lol:

Haha, I thought it had that SWR look and feel about it as well.

That said: Awesome start to season 4. From the get go, not a dull, boring or non entertaining moment.
I thought that the S3 finale was going to be hard to top, but I think they pulled it off. They also packed the show with so many elements. I know you all spotted them, but stand outs for me were Fugitoid (David Tennant) doing the time travel, and April showing up in the yellow jump suit, with the laser pistol where her camera used to be.
The credit change is also really cool.
I was expecting to like this arc, but I didn't expect it to be quite so good.

As someone else said, bring on episode 2 !!!!

[Toadtrooper]

The animation is good, but the writing is so awful I want to skip the entire space arc.

I face-palmed when Donatello immediately knew how far back in time they were just by looking out the window from an angle he has never viewed Earth from before.

The concept of "localized" time travel is beyond stupid. Yes, you could have a little bit of gravitational time dilation but then you just time travel farther away from the source of the gravity. It's a silly way to build tension, and it doesn't, because they've spoiled the ending in the first five minutes. If you can only do it once, they're going to do it. Now they have the daunting task of making it interesting.

Which won't be done with made-up words and ignoring simple things. You don't just send a bunch of kids into a strange market without some money and a few ground rules. That would at least give us a reference for how expensive things are. But no, the kids need to be stupid so the show can introduce Dregg, who again, is pretty much spoiled in the first five minutes of the show when April mind-kicks his butt.

But whatever. Stuff! Things! Let's sell some toys.

[PangolinFeets]

This was fun. It was nice to see Leo be a fanboy about space again. I felt like some of the episodes were getting less fun last season so it was nice to see everyone excited and ridiculous again.

And I love April's camera lazer!

[JTH]

I face-palmed when Donatello immediately knew how far back in time they were just by looking out the window from an angle he has never viewed Earth from before.


How is that stupid or awful writing?

If a person knows it takes one full year for the Earth to make a whole revolution around the sun, a person can figure out how much time has passed based on where the Earth's revolution is. That's like common knowledge.

It's not stupid a person knows what time it is by looking at where the sun is in the sky. Classic westerns do that all the time, is that awful writing too?

Maybe it's you just don't understand things. Don't blame the writers and act like they don't know what they're doing or talking about just because you don't get something. :roll:

[neatoman]

Ah Dregg, from main villain to some guy who's probably just going to be an annoyance at best.

Anyway, I can see why Ciro thought space was a budgetary nightmare, so much stuff was just painted in, they probably didn't have the budget to render it in CGI so I can expect a lot of that type of "cheating". It's not so bad when it's the backgrounds but the food stand and aliens really stuck out like sore thumbs, it's way more distracting than when they recycle assets and that already bugged me.

[kelligrafie]

Can we talk about Mikey's face right after Fugitoid bitchslapped Raphael.

He's like, "Wanna laugh. But can't. Mustn't. Daren't."

[JTH]

Ah Dregg, from main villain to some guy who's probably just going to be an annoyance at best.

Anyway, I can see why Ciro thought space was a budgetary nightmare, so much stuff was just painted in, they probably didn't have the budget to render it in CGI so I can expect a lot of that type of "cheating". It's not so bad when it's the backgrounds but the food stand and aliens really stuck out like sore thumbs, it's way more distracting than when they recycle assets and that already bugged me.
Maybe they're just getting you more used to an 80's background. :P

[Vicky82]

Can we talk about Mikey's face right after Fugitoid bitchslapped Raphael.

He's like, "Wanna laugh. But can't. Mustn't. Daren't."

Yeah and when he was holding on to Casey :lol:

[Eurydemus]

I really enjoyed the episode! Like others have said, the production values made a huge leap befitting the season's new setting. The first episode alone is visually impressive (especially the variety of alien models at the Mos Eisley analogue) and I can't wait to see more.

I found the writing alright. The time travel thing was a bit shocking (not really a "surprise") because of how early that big plot point was resolved. However, it also gives the Turtles a long term goal, so at least we have a unifying story element for the first half of S4. Plus I think it'd be too grim to have the Turtles go off on their adventures and still play to the show's comedic nature with Splinter's - and billions of others' - death(s) hanging over their heads. I think even Mikey would have a hard time Booyakasha-ing with that on his mind. I mean, look at the viewer response to Casey's reaction in the S3 finale.

There were some awesome Under-the-Radar slips, too: Raph not giving a flying (you know) and - perhaps unexpectedly - three explicit and permanent onscreen deaths. Unless Dregg's insect minions were robots, one got stabbed repeatedly, another got a hole blown into its torso, and a third lost an arm and its head. They all seemed to "bleed" green goop, too.

Overall, a brilliant start to S4 in my view.

[CyberCubed]

More April fanservice. The camera focuses entirely on her ass again when she came out with her yellow outfit. Why do the animators keep doing this?

I'd expect this from anime but not an American cartoon.

[neatoman]

Did this episode really remind anyone else of Fast Forward? It was like a mix of 4kids Turtles in Space and Fast Forward. Turtles get new suits/weapons, they fight random aliens, Mike tries to eat alien food, etc.

I thought that too, it does really remind me of that first episode of FastForward. Just replace "Earth in the future" with "Space in the past" and this season is basically FastForward 2.0 :lol:.

It's basically the same thing really, a radically new status quo, most of the characters getting replaced for a while, "fish out water" type storytelling etc.

Or maybe I just have FastForward on the brain since IDW is bringing back Jammerhead but it still feels pretty close.

[CyberCubed]

I thought that too, it does really remind me of that first episode of FastForward. Just replace "Earth in the future" with "Space in the past" and this season is basically FastForward 2.0 :lol:.

It's basically the same thing really, a radically new status quo, most of the characters getting replaced for a while, "fish out water" type storytelling etc.

Or maybe I just have FastForward on the brain since IDW is bringing back Jammerhead but it still feels pretty close.

Fast Forward was essentially a full season of "Turtles in Space" even though they were on Earth in the future.

There's like no difference.

[kelligrafie]

I quite liked how different the music was in this episode. When they're all being chased, it was upbeat and jazzy like the cantina theme. Except more brass like instead of woodwind.

[The Happy One]

The animation is good, but the writing is so awful I want to skip the entire space arc.

I face-palmed when Donatello immediately knew how far back in time they were just by looking out the window from an angle he has never viewed Earth from before.

The concept of "localized" time travel is beyond stupid. Yes, you could have a little bit of gravitational time dilation but then you just time travel farther away from the source of the gravity. It's a silly way to build tension, and it doesn't, because they've spoiled the ending in the first five minutes. If you can only do it once, they're going to do it. Now they have the daunting task of making it interesting.

Which won't be done with made-up words and ignoring simple things. You don't just send a bunch of kids into a strange market without some money and a few ground rules. That would at least give us a reference for how expensive things are. But no, the kids need to be stupid so the show can introduce Dregg, who again, is pretty much spoiled in the first five minutes of the show when April mind-kicks his butt.

But whatever. Stuff! Things! Let's sell some toys.

You good?
But, yeah, I'msure someone as smart as Don could figure that out. Heck, he probably learned that at five by hacking into NASA!:lol:

And as for turning back time? I said this before and I'll say it again...how else were they gonna do it?

And for the localized turning back of time? I can only think of Superman and that this is a cartoon. Not everything has to be overly complicated. Yeah, it's a quick fix but only a half-fix they still have a lot to do to stop it. I mean, if you're just too mature that you just can't possibly watch something so childish then- welp- it was nice knowing ya! :D
Because honestly, pal, it's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Chill out and just wait it out. Or, if ya can't....then perhaps this iteration of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles isn't for you, which is fine.
It's not for everybody.

[tylerdavies]

Great episode. I loved almost everything about it and it would surely get a 10/10 in my book if it hadn't been for the stupid way of fixing the Earth in the first episode! That removed so much tension and emotional motivation for the turtles, and now it's extremely obvious that after the space arc that things will go back to the status quo and everything will be fine and dandy.
I don't see any other solution to the destruction of earth other than time travel, but in the first episode of the season? Really!?
Kind of funny that the episode began with the retelling of what happened in the season finale, only to have the new theme song recap yet again seconds later. Meh. Both did a good job of it.


Who said after the space arc things are going to become back to normal? I see a lot of people complaining about this but we don't know how this arc concludes. Also the turtles watched Splinter die before their eyes by the shredder. Surely they'll go nuts when they see him again and tell him about it.

I also thought the double recap was kind of silly. I love the new intro though. I thought it was pretty kickass. I also just finished rewatching season 3 today, just in time for this episode.

This episode is severely disappointing to me, but okay nonetheless. The visuals were good yes, but my gosh were the characters stupid, especially the motive of Dregg in this incarnation. Seriously, a grocery is why he hates them?

I don't really blame you for feeling this way. I personally thought the turtles were pretty antagonizing towards Dregg. Poor Dregg was just trying to trade for a rare spice when the turtles run into him and knock him over after pissing off some other aliens. Then the turtles start talking to smack to Dregg instead of politley apologizing? Then the turtles break his expensive spice vial and start attacking him...The Aumanator's writing at his best.

Anyway, I can see why Ciro thought space was a budgetary nightmare, so much stuff was just painted in, they probably didn't have the budget to render it in CGI so I can expect a lot of that type of "cheating". It's not so bad when it's the backgrounds but the food stand and aliens really stuck out like sore thumbs, it's way more distracting than when they recycle assets and that already bugged me.

I'm surprised this wasn't talked about more in the forums. I thought the animators did a great job at blending in the 2D elements with the 3D elements. I felt the 2D characters or set pieces weren't that intrusive because it was shot in a way that they weren't the focus.

[victory_angel]

I personally liked this episode.

I admit that I wished the Turtles had a little more time to absorb the tragedy that had just happened. But having them go back in time roughly six months to stop the distruction of the world.

And of course this is their only chance to prevent earths distruction which makes it really imperative that they find those pieces of black hole generator before the Triceraton's

While they are doing this with the belief that by doing this they would be able to save earth and prevent the death of Master Splinter. It is still possible that they manage to save the Earth but still pay a heavy price despite their efforts.

It was funny seeing Leo living his own personal space heroes fanfiction. Heck with the look on his face when he was putting on his helmet looked like he was about to jizz if not pee himself out of pure excitement.

And then flying around out side in space for saying "I'm Captain Ryan!"

I wouldn't say the Fugatoid was entirely blameless for not offering the Turtles, April, or Casey any forms of currency. Or telling them what the currency is. I mean Donnie did say that the place they were docking was frequented by Smugglers, Space Pirates, and other Criminals. And the Fugatoid did warn them that Space Port was not part of the federation. So that alone should have told them that they had to be careful about who they pissed off.

Though it was awesome to have all the Turtles, April, and Casey all mess up on the planet rather then having it just be Mikey's fault. Especially when they collectively disrupt that drug sale between Dregg and those three dwarfish aliens.

Also when April mentioned that they Kill bugs on Earth, she also forgot to mention that People Eat bugs as well. Before you say only some cultures do...keep in mind that Crab, Lobster, Shrimp, and Crawfish are related to cockroaches. That and red40 which is a food dye is some foods also comes from insects.

[TurtleTitan97]

Pretty hilarious episode. Looking forward to the next one.



Also when April mentioned that they Kill bugs on Earth, she also forgot to mention that People Eat bugs as well. Before you say only some cultures do...keep in mind that Crab, Lobster, Shrimp, and Crawfish are related to cockroaches. That and red40 which is a food dye is some foods also comes from insects.

Gee, thanks for ruining sea food for me.

[victory_angel]

Gee, thanks for ruining sea food for me.

Hey, I love Shrimp and one of my favorite Chinese appetizers are cream cheese and crab rangoons. And it's because they are related to cockroachs is why I don't feel bad about eating them... it's a bit easier to enjoy them when they are served without the head still attached. Cows, Chickens, and pigs...I do include in my diet, but I've also lived in and visited places around California such as the Napa Valley area, and of course there is the little farm up in Tilden Park in Berkeley which does have cows, goats, chickens, rabbits, Geese and Yes they do have a pig as well. And yes, I much prefer seeing them alive and happy to seeing them crispy fried in a greasy bucket.

There is also a burger place in Berkeley called farm burger that has photos of the slaughter house in the restrooms, which makes just makes you feel so happy with the fact you haven't gone vegetarian yet, and yes I am saying that quite sarcastically.

[TurtleTitan97]

Hey, I love Shrimp. And that's why I don't feel bad about eating them...though it's a bit easier to enjoy them when they are served without the head still attached.

Either way, some things should just never be said. This is one of them.

[Shiro Kame]

I wonder why they did the turning back time thing so early.

I believe they did so so that whatever the turtles did, and whoever they met during Season 4's "Turtles in Space" arc would matter. This was one of my concerns, especially with Mona Lisa showing up and the possibility of the turtles saving others who were either under Kraang, Triceraton, or anyone else's oppression. To me, it would have been a big waste if they did the time travel thing much later in. I knew they were going to do time travel, especially after seeing the Earth get demolished. I knew that there was no way in hell that the Earth and its inhabitants could come back unless there was time travel or some crap involved. Therefore, due to my above reasons, I'm glad that they used time travel at the start of the season.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Also when April mentioned that they Kill bugs on Earth, she also forgot to mention that People Eat bugs as well. Before you say only some cultures do.... keep in mind that Crab, Lobster, Shrimp, and Crawfish are related to cockroaches. That and red40 which is a food dye is some foods also comes from insects.


Yes and no. They are related in the same way people are related to pigs- they are both invertebrates and arthropods. Otherwise, crustaceans have NO close relations to insects. They are on a completely different evolutionary branch of the animal kingdom. And red 40 comes from a specific insect, so that's really kind of irrelevant.


Either way, some things should just never be said. This is one of them.


Agreed.

[THGhost]

Turning back time, really? :roll:

Come on I know they're following the book, but even with the time frame, that's a serious cop out of a fix. At the very least, the visuals for space are spectacular to see, animation really got boosted.

What else could they have done? There was literally no other way to get the Earth back.

Casey Jones just said, Were out like Vanilla Ice.

Good to know that Tatooine hasn't changed much throughout the years.

Precisely my thoughts. :lol:

This was a great episode, a nice change of pace. I love the new opening and Lord Dregg's design is awesome. Can't wait to see more of him. :tcool:

[yellowmario27]

I have a question, so the went back in time 6 months...so everyone on earth is still alive

So this means Master Splinter is at home, in the sewers, wondering where his sons are?

[ssjup81]

So, finally saw the ep. It was interesting. Nice how they're 6 months behind and now have a window to stop the Triceratons. Can't help but wonder how, though.

Dregg...wow. I'm a bit Lukewarm to him as a villain so far. Loved how Leo was nerding out. Oh, and I must say that Casey's line, "I'm out like Vanilla Ice" just had me laughing. I'll probably write more out later....just thouht I'd post something for the time being.I have a question, so the went back in time 6 months...so everyone on earth is still alive

So this means Master Splinter is at home, in the sewers, wondering where his sons are?I kind of doubt it. I'm sure their past selves are there...wouldn't they be?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I have a question, so the went back in time 6 months...so everyone on earth is still alive

So this means Master Splinter is at home, in the sewers, wondering where his sons are?


Or possibly wandering the sewers in a feral state, given how far back they went. Kraang invasion, guys!


So, finally saw the ep. It was interesting. Nice how they're 6 months behind and now have a window to stop the Triceratons. Can't help but wonder how, though.

Dregg...wow. I'm a bit Lukewarm to him as a villain so far. Loved how Leo was nerding out. Oh, and I must say that Casey's line, "I'm out like Vanilla Ice" just had me laughing. I'll probably write more out later....just thouht I'd post something for the time being.I kind of doubt it. I'm sure their past selves are there...wouldn't they be?


More likely in Northhampton, given the time frame. Six months.... That would put it either just before, or after the main Kraang invasion took place, I believe.

[Ursalink]

1º) I really hope the turtles will manage to save Master Splinter.

2º) 80's reference with April's space suit. Very convenient she looks just like her 80's counterpart, even her blaster looks like a videocamera. I would like these two girls meeting each other in the incoming crossover with the 80's crossover.

3º) Quite strange the spacesuits, don't you think? I mean, it seems the Fugitoid already have everything suitable exactly for the turtles, April and Casey. I mean, ninja tech's weapons, explosive pucks... etc. Too much for a coincidence, don't you think?

[Leaf]

I mean, it seems the Fugitoid already have everything suitable exactly for the turtles, April and Casey. I mean, ninja tech's weapons, explosive pucks... etc. Too much for a coincidence, don't you think?

Just on this, the Fugitoid did say that Bishop sent him (or something along those lines) so I would assume this is how he knows what kind of gear they would need perhaps? In addition to knowing their names etc. :)

Finally watched the episode and I am liking what I'm seeing so far. I did think that it would be nice to have more screentime of Dregg, but I suppose it's not so bad considering how much we saw of the Shredder in the first episode.

(As an aside, woo! First actual forum post!)

[Ashwolf]

Pretty good ep overall, thought it was funny how Leo was going after a karai lookalike

Not sure if its just me but the robot at that weapon merchant stand really looks like something out of fallout

[THGhost]

I have a question, so the went back in time 6 months...so everyone on earth is still alive

So this means Master Splinter is at home, in the sewers, wondering where his sons are?

This is how I interpreted it. After they travelled back in time 6 months, the Splinter of the past was at home with his sons of the past. The turtles on board the spaceship are the turtles of the future. So when the Splinter of the past ultimately dies 6 months later (if the turtles of the future don't do anything to stop that from happening), the turtles of the past will become the turtles of the future, or in this case, present.
Hopefully that makes sense. :P

[Ninjinister]

Either way, some things should just never be said. This is one of them.

Not sure what the curriculum is like where you're from, mate, but this is all stuff I imagine you should have learned by the end of grade 2.

[TheCollector]

Huh, so I dunno if anyone noticed this, but one of the bits of animation improvement this season is April's nails are actually natural nail color now and not all off white anymore. That bit always bugged me. Cause ya know it's not nail polish as the clones had the same color nails.

[neatoman]

So Honeycutt mentioned the Federation, saying that they should be careful on that planet since it's not part of the Federation. This is interesting to say the least, seeing how the Federation is something the Fugitoid from Mirage and 4Kids would avoid given that they're the ones he's a fugitive of. So if he's not a fugitive of the Federation, who is he a fugitive of?

[evan2000]

So Honeycutt mentioned the Federation, saying that they should be careful on that planet since it's not part of the Federation. This is interesting to say the least, seeing how the Federation is something the Fugitoid from Mirage and 4Kids would avoid given that they're the ones he's a fugitive of. So if he's not a fugitive of the Federation, who is he a fugitive of?

Um... Triceratons?

[victory_angel]

So Honeycutt mentioned the Federation, saying that they should be careful on that planet since it's not part of the Federation. This is interesting to say the least, seeing how the Federation is something the Fugitoid from Mirage and 4Kids would avoid given that they're the ones he's a fugitive of. So if he's not a fugitive of the Federation, who is he a fugitive of?

He said he was summoned by Bishop, perhaps he is like his IDW incarnation and was formerly a neutrino slave of the Kraang. And now he works for the Utroms to help stop the Kraang.

[Meliwen]

If there are no past turtles, then we'd get to see how Earth fares without them for a time, which would be neat to see, and which could potentially allow the human vs mutant movement to begin without the turtles there to help protect the city. But we'd also have to retread some ground to redo some plots, like Karai, Mondo and Zog. Since Leo wasn't at all worried about the Kraang still inhabiting New York and firing a missile to mutate the planet or all the missing people, I'm assuming six months is at some point after Battle for New York.

I think it's easier for the show to just have the past turtles doing what they're doing, and then have the future turtles somehow take their place or become one or something. Maybe Fugitoid knows how. That way some plots or episodes don't end up becoming obsolete.

This episode in general is a lot more lighthearted than I thought it was going to be, which isn't a bad thing. Dregg is a lot less evil and intimidating than I thought as well. I guess I was expecting some Mozar level of seriousness and intimidation.

April was just great in this episode. And we got more Casey and Raph. Fugitiod was the best. So overall a good episode.

I'm also a bit surprised none of the turtles mentioned how nice or different it was to finally be able to walk around among the general public.

[Jephael]

I kinda have a feeling that by the time they wrap up this space travel plot, it's going to be a little like a mix of the events of Back to the Future Part 2 and Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me where they see their past selves doing exactly what they did before in the season finale, but at some point they manage to save the day.

[VaughnMichael]

I enjoyed the episode quite a bit but I knew I would because of all of the new stuff to look at and the new characters.
The chef sort of reminded me of Bellybomb who I hope the groups runs across in space.
It all reminds me quite a bit of Star Wars but I guess that's ok 2k3 sort of did the same thing.
I'd have loved to see them go into a bar / restaurant and give us a bunch of random characters we may never get otherwise.
Lord Dreggs design is absolutely beautiful fully animated.
Playmates did a decent job on the figure but they should have added glitter to the plastic to really give it the full effect of the show.
I'm a bit confused about Dreggs children though are they robots or what?
I mean they had goo come out of them but they also sparked.
Their designs also remind me of Micronauts Kronos mixed with Power Lords Arkus.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/micronauts-kronos_zpsm9464knt.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Harmophious/media/micronauts-kronos_zpsm9464knt.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/v132__00428378_zpsdlabyizo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Harmophious/media/v132__00428378_zpsdlabyizo.jpg.html)
I cracked up at the end when Mikey said Space Apples as I said oh sh1t!
I can't wait to see how the hell they're going to get out of this one.

[TigerClaw]

I kinda have a feeling that by the time they wrap up this space travel plot, it's going to be a little like a mix of the events of Back to the Future Part 2 and Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me where they see their past selves doing exactly what they did before in the season finale, but at some point they manage to save the day.
I wonder about that too, cause if they managed to stop the earth from being destroyed, the Turtles, April and Casey from there timeline would cease to exist.

[Vicky82]

I wonder about that too, cause if they managed to stop the earth from being destroyed, the Turtles, April and Casey from there timeline would cease to exist.

I said this a couple of weeks ago and I also said if they know this then maybe they could end up sacrificing themselves to save earth.

[aliena]

Once again, how do they get so much in such a small amount of time? They even managed to get a few moments to reflect on seeing space for the first time.

I personally loved this episode quite a bit. I'm not taking the show as seriously anymore and I'm enjoying it a lot more. I love them in space, everything about them in space. I actually liked April for the first time. I loved how vulnerable she felt in the orange spacesuit and she covered her breasts with her arms to hide herself from them.

I loved Leo the entire episode with space heroes and all that. Maybe someday he'll be a captain too. I felt bad for Lord Dregg, I didn't know him before this episode, but the guys didn't respect him from the beginning. They acted like arrogant little kids pestering an adult because they have the ability to fight. I was on Dregg's side in this situation.

So, what did that emotion cube mean when April was holding it as she looked at Donnie?

[TigerClaw]

I said this a couple of weeks ago and I also said if they know this then maybe they could end up sacrificing themselves to save earth.
That's one possibility, They sacrificing themselves results in a new timeline, where the Earth survives, and then it continues from there, So all the adventures the Turtles have in space would have never happen as a result of a new timeline that's created.

[Vicky82]

Once again, how do they get so much in such a small amount of time? They even managed to get a few moments to reflect on seeing space for the first time.

I personally loved this episode quite a bit. I'm not taking the show as seriously anymore and I'm enjoying it a lot more. I love them in space, everything about them in space. I actually liked April for the first time. I loved how vulnerable she felt in the orange spacesuit and she covered her breasts with her arms to hide herself from them.

I loved Leo the entire episode with space heroes and all that. Maybe someday he'll be a captain too. I felt bad for Lord Dregg, I didn't know him before this episode, but the guys didn't respect him from the beginning. They acted like arrogant little kids pestering an adult because they have the ability to fight. I was on Dregg's side in this situation.

So, what did that emotion cube mean when April was holding it as she looked at Donnie?

Actually Leo did apologize to Dregg for bumping into him but he just punched him away and told him not to touch him so Dregg was the rude one and of course The turtles April and Casey didn't know who they were dealing with, they didn't know he's a dangerous criminial and of course it got worse when he lost his "spice".

If that happend to you and you ran into a drug dealer by accident during a drug deal, (and even though you apologize) how do you think he would react, most likely you be getting beaten up, shot or stabbed.

[Toadtrooper]

How is that stupid or awful writing?

If a person knows it takes one full year for the Earth to make a whole revolution around the sun, a person can figure out how much time has passed based on where the Earth's revolution is. That's like common knowledge.

It's not stupid a person knows what time it is by looking at where the sun is in the sky. Classic westerns do that all the time, is that awful writing too?

Maybe it's you just don't understand things. Don't blame the writers and act like they don't know what they're doing or talking about just because you don't get something. :roll:


There is no way to immediately determine where in Earth's revolution around they sun they are at this specific point in time...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6dpp3.jpg

... because you cannot immediately determine the position of Earth's axis from the location they parked in.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vkn7t4.jpg


Nevermind that the second picture gets the moon phase right - waning crescent - but the first one somehow shows a new moon.

You can't use "Donatello is really smart" to explain every distortion of logic the show makes. He's more a caricature of autism at this point, and that's not good writing, either.

[Powder]

Playmates did a decent job on the figure but they should have added glitter to the plastic to really give it the full effect of the show.
I'm a bit confused about Dreggs children though are they robots or what?
I mean they had goo come out of them but they also sparked.

Totally agree, that'd look really dope. I think his grunts are supposed to be techno-organic, which is how they get away with "killing" them. Works for me. :tgrin:

[TurtleTitan97]

There is no way to immediately determine where in Earth's revolution around they sun they are at this specific point in time...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6dpp3.jpg

... because you cannot immediately determine the position of Earth's axis from the location they parked in.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vkn7t4.jpg


Nevermind that the second picture gets the moon phase right - waning crescent - but the first one somehow shows a new moon.

You can't use "Donatello is really smart" to explain every distortion of logic the show makes. He's more a caricature of autism at this point, and that's not good writing, either.

Dude, I think you're looking WAAAAY too into this. It's a cartoon about talking turtles that know martial arts. You gotta suspend at least some disbelief.

[The Happy One]

There is no way to immediately determine where in Earth's revolution around they sun they are at this specific point in time...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6dpp3.jpg

... because you cannot immediately determine the position of Earth's axis from the location they parked in.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vkn7t4.jpg


Nevermind that the second picture gets the moon phase right - waning crescent - but the first one somehow shows a new moon.

You can't use "Donatello is really smart" to explain every distortion of logic the show makes. He's more a caricature of autism at this point, and that's not good writing, either.

Sir, this is a CARTOON. Not every single thing's going to be scientifically factual. Not everything is going to have some elaborate explanation, buddy. And, trust me, I get what you're saying. Donnie can't be that smart
But you made your point, people disagree because there are some that can- by just the position of the sun- tell time- a lot in fact- and I'm sure he's not the only guy that could tell what time period it is by the position of the Earth. Quite possibly he could've been able to tell the season- Spring or Summer, Winter or Fall- and estimated by that.
In short, we don't know how our purple clad genius found that out, but getting this flustered over it? It's not that big of a deal, now is it?

[Aaronardo]

There is no way to immediately determine where in Earth's revolution around they sun they are at this specific point in time...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6dpp3.jpg

... because you cannot immediately determine the position of Earth's axis from the location they parked in.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vkn7t4.jpg


Nevermind that the second picture gets the moon phase right - waning crescent - but the first one somehow shows a new moon.

You can't use "Donatello is really smart" to explain every distortion of logic the show makes. He's more a caricature of autism at this point, and that's not good writing, either.

This isn't Gravity Falls, where the show purposely drops hidden clues that reveal something cryptic about the storyline. This is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Honestly, there aren't many things that are more random-sounding than that. Just, don't look too deep into it. This series isn't one to pay attention to every detail (sans Karai's Vendetta), so you probably shouldn't, either :P

[VaughnMichael]

Totally agree, that'd look really dope. I think his grunts are supposed to be techno-organic, which is how they get away with "killing" them. Works for me. :tgrin:
Works for me also as his his 80s group was called the Techno-gang.
I do hope we get Mung though.

[Vicky82]

If anyone didn't catch the dedication notice.

The episode was dedicated to McKaylee Belle Grampp, the 3-year-old daughter of Eddie Grampp (a computer animator at Nickelodeon), who died in a car accident on August 12, 2015.

[The Happy One]

If anyone didn't catch the dedication notice.

The episode was dedicated to McKaylee Belle Grampp, the 3-year-old daughter of Eddie Grampp (a computer animator at Nickelodeon), who died in a car accident on August 12, 2015.

Oh, gee...:(
I didn't even see that. Man...that's rough.

Thanks for the info Vicky, was it at the end credits of the episode?

[Vicky82]

Oh, gee...:(
I didn't even see that. Man...that's rough.

Thanks for the info Vicky, was it at the end credits of the episode?

I can't remember. I actually forgot about it until it was mentioned on TMNT Wiki.

[TigerClaw]

the person who made this thread should setup a poll. :)

[The Happy One]

I can't remember. I actually forgot about it until it was mentioned on TMNT Wiki.

Oh, that's okay:)
Thank you...it was awfully nice of you to let us know, though:) I'm sure the family would appreciate that.

[neatoman]

Um... Triceratons?

So what do the Triceratons want from him then?

[GoldMutant]

the person who made this thread should setup a poll. :)

Thanks for the reminder. :)

I just need some ideas for taglines for what I can put in.

Update: Poll is now added!

[THGhost]

Dude, I think you're looking WAAAAY too into this. It's a cartoon about talking turtles that know martial arts. You gotta suspend at least some disbelief.

Sir, this is a CARTOON. Not every single thing's going to be scientifically factual. Not everything is going to have some elaborate explanation, buddy. And, trust me, I get what you're saying. Donnie can't be that smart
But you made your point, people disagree because there are some that can- by just the position of the sun- tell time- a lot in fact- and I'm sure he's not the only guy that could tell what time period it is by the position of the Earth. Quite possibly he could've been able to tell the season- Spring or Summer, Winter or Fall- and estimated by that.
In short, we don't know how our purple clad genius found that out, but getting this flustered over it? It's not that big of a deal, now is it?

Some people really do take this show too seriously. Good to know there's some some that don't. :lol:

[drgon78]

Does anyone have a pic of the alien girl that Leo was hitting on?

[TigerClaw]

Does anyone have a pic of the alien girl that Leo was hitting on?
Here, found it on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSRli66WUAA1kaF.png

[Allio]

Here, found it on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSRli66WUAA1kaF.png

off to the internet with her...wait...

[drgon78]

Thanks TigerClaw.

[IndigoErth]

Wow, Nick... well done, well done. :D

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I really hope we find out more about Honeycutt's past and if he is a fugitive or not. David Tennant did and a awesome job, can't wait to hear more!

[ssjup81]

There is no way to immediately determine where in Earth's revolution around they sun they are at this specific point in time...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6dpp3.jpg

... because you cannot immediately determine the position of Earth's axis from the location they parked in.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vkn7t4.jpg


Nevermind that the second picture gets the moon phase right - waning crescent - but the first one somehow shows a new moon.

You can't use "Donatello is really smart" to explain every distortion of logic the show makes. He's more a caricature of autism at this point, and that's not good writing, either.Just a quick question...if you were a seven-year-old kid, would you have noticed or cared? More than likely, no. Remember, the show is aimed at kids, not adults.

[TheCollector]

Ok but like, the turtles, April and Casey were technically the bad guys this ep right? I mean sure the aliens were chasing them and trying to kill them or something, but they did destroy like millions worth of merchandise first. lol

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, but they didn't mean to. Mikey destroyed the cakes because they were attacking him and April accidentally broke that crystal. The only ones who purposely did anything were Raph and Casey.

And thanks for the info on the dedication. I thought it was someone who worked on the show, but it's sweet that they dedicated it to the daughter of one of the animators. Still sucks that she died though.

[Icebot]

Great episode! I wonder if we'll see as much of Lord Dregg as we did in the old toon!

[ranger_scout]

The season premiere was just okay at best IMO. I may not have watched this series as long as others, but I do fell like this program is starting to run its course a little bit. However, I will continue to watch it because I am very much looking forward to the big 1987 series crossover.

[Amaranthus]

Here, found it on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSRli66WUAA1kaF.png

Best part of the entire episode. Hopefully this means Leo is over Karai now.

[Meliwen]

If Casey flirting with Karai didn't change the way he felt about April, I doubt this means Leo's feelings for Karai have changed. It wasn't too long ago he was talking about how he was in love with her; if he ever did move on, it would be nice to have him say as much, rather than to just seemingly forget and move on with no proper closure on his part.

[BubblyShell22]

I think Leo still cares about her as much as he did before. I'm not sure if he's moved on from loving her in a romantic sense though. I did like that part of the episode though. It was hilarious.

[Mona_Lisa]

Fantastic, Spectacular, Super Awesome Episode!!!!!!

Okay, it was hilarious and a little sad at the beginning. We saw some Turtle Tears....:(

We saw an on point, badass, and pretty, all around great April O’Neil. Like, they really enhanced her charcter by 1,000%. :D

We saw smooooth Donatello and smoooth Leonardo.;)

Mikey was adorable!! Squeeee!

Casey and Raph? That was the bromance I've been missing for days!!!!
And...language boys, language!

And last but not least, David Tennant KIllED it! Loving Fugitoids dry humor already:lol:

The animation was beautiful and this episode was just top notch.

I loved it too! I REALLY hated The beginning of the third season... I even thought about quitting the show a few times.... But this episode was epic!
I love Aprils outfit and the ot throwback....
I am so happy Casey and Raph are hanging out.... I thought they had forgot that Casey was Raph's friend there for awhile.... (And forgot their are Raph fans).
I loved the humor (I laughed my head off). I enjoy the more serious episodes as well, but I am a big fan of the ot after all. Maybe the fact that they go back and forth From funny to serious is what keeps us hooked;)
Seeing the guys all get in trouble in there own unique ways was great.

Also, definitely love the updated...classic April look. Yeah they Really did an awesome job with that.

I thought the episode was pretty good, The animation has very much improved.

The next episode will introduce us to Sal Commander and Mona Lisa.

Noooo, seriously!:teek: Why don't I keep up with this stuff? *Head smack*
I'm so happy. And maybe she will not be just a one shot episode deal....



And I gotta agree on those healing hands.. and the fact that the visuals were absolutely stunning.

Healing hands was awful... But I'm cool with the time travel:D

They like to destroy our hearts don't they :cry:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/c4d49ab6e6ccddb30a137ef642fd7258/tumblr_nwsaultXIy1u5rny0o2_540.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/8a0d9b27da58514cc8403283e3da4d02/tumblr_nwsaultXIy1u5rny0o1_540.jpg

I really like the one where it looks like Raph is screaming (in my mind a movie reference)!
The next one.... I wish I could tell better which turtle was which (Were is my Raph)
Is it Raph who has thrown himself over Splinter's body and April is comforting?

[Bauer536]

What a premiere. Did I like it? Yes! And no.

The way it began was pretty good, maybe a little too quick with turning back time 6 months before Earth was destroyed. Moments, I kept wondering, "Why don't they just go back now and prevent it ahead of time?" But hey. Kids shows.:twink:

When they put on their space suits, it was great seeing all their reactions. First off, I'm happy Leo's geeking out again. Second, this was the best episode for April O'Neil. I really liked her character this time around.:tgrin:

Plus, there was some standout moments: Fugitoid, floating in space, casey's "Vanilla Ice" quote, Leo flirting with an alien, and the introduction of Lord Dregg.

So, why is it that I don't love this episode? Well, let's see. It's one thing to be fish out of water, but the turtles seemed to have left their brains by the ship's door. Donnie touching an object that duplicated him. Funny, but . . . You shouldn't be grabbing something that is not familiar to you. Also, what part of "Don't touch anything" did Casey and Raph did not understand? I was with this episode from the time it started until the turtles started acting like morons.:tmad:

Although, Mikey didn't mean to cause trouble. All he wanted was food. And Leo. He was just being friendly and wanted to talk to someone. I guess those two are kind of vindicated. :toops:

Lord Dregg needs a better motive for killing the turtles. The spice thing seems like a good reason, because maybe the spice was some kind of drug on that planet. Also, he's a smuggler. However, there needs to be some kind of deeper reason behind killing the turtles. What if he was in league with the Triceratons? That would be some twist. I don't know. There needs to be something better. And what about Fugitoid. Why didn't he come with them? Maybe he could've prevented some of the crap the turtles and friends started.

Anyways, for a premiere, not the best, but not the worst. I've noticed with this show that their first episodes aren't that good. "Rise of the Turtles" was the best (mostly because it was the start of a great show), but this, "The Mutation Situation," and "Within the Woods" were weak in certain areas. The Season 2 premiere had April getting mad at the turtles and ending their friendship. I knew it couldn't last long, but I didn't like that. For Season 3, Leo trying to overcome his injury was the best part, but the mutant Creep did nothing for me.

It seems like after every explosive and well-done finale, there has to be a half-assed premiere. :tgrumble:

[The Happy One]

What a premiere. Did I like it? Yes! And no.

The way it began was pretty good, maybe a little too quick with turning back time 6 months before Earth was destroyed. Moments, I kept wondering, "Why don't they just go back now and prevent it ahead of time?" But hey. Kids shows.:twink:

When they put on their space suits, it was great seeing all their reactions. First off, I'm happy Leo's geeking out again. Second, this was the best episode for April O'Neil. I really liked her character this time around.:tgrin:

Plus, there was some standout moments: Fugitoid, floating in space, casey's "Vanilla Ice" quote, Leo flirting with an alien, and the introduction of Lord Dregg.

So, why is it that I don't love this episode? Well, let's see. It's one thing to be fish out of water, but the turtles seemed to have left their brains by the ship's door. Donnie touching an object that duplicated him. Funny, but . . . You shouldn't be grabbing something that is not familiar to you. Also, what part of "Don't touch anything" did Casey and Raph did not understand? I was with this episode from the time it started until the turtles started acting like morons.:tmad:

Although, Mikey didn't mean to cause trouble. All he wanted was food. And Leo. He was just being friendly and wanted to talk to someone. I guess those two are kind of vindicated. :toops:

Lord Dregg needs a better motive for killing the turtles. The spice thing seems like a good reason, because maybe the spice was some kind of drug on that planet. Also, he's a smuggler. However, there needs to be some kind of deeper reason behind killing the turtles. What if he was in league with the Triceratons? That would be some twist. I don't know. There needs to be something better. And what about Fugitoid. Why didn't he come with them? Maybe he could've prevented some of the crap the turtles and friends started.

Anyways, for a premiere, not the best, but not the worst. I've noticed with this show that their first episodes aren't that good. "Rise of the Turtles" was the best (mostly because it was the start of a great show), but this, "The Mutation Situation," and "Within the Woods" were weak in certain areas. The Season 2 premiere had April getting mad at the turtles and ending their friendship. I knew it couldn't last long, but I didn't like that. For Season 3, Leo trying to overcome his injury was the best part, but the mutant Creep did nothing for me.

It seems like after every explosive and well-done finale, there has to be a half-assed premiere. :tgrumble:

Gonna have to disagree with you on the Turtles leaving their brains behind, unfortunately. Let's just be realistic here, pal, if you were in space...SPACE for the first time at a SPACE PORT seeing aliens and gadgets and armory and whatnot would you not be a little more than giddy about that?

I mean, of you can honestly say that you wouldn't be grabbing cool space stuff and trying out new things then, gee, I don't know what kind of person you are- but, I for one, would be contained, for sure. :lol:

So, I think, we just gotta stop being a tad too critical about the sillier aspects of this show and place yourself in not only the characters but also the writers' positions. We don't know everything, though we love to think we do. And we don't have to even lift a finger to get these episodes, yet they word their butts off day and night to satisfy all of us vast majority of fans with tons of opinions, requests and complaints. Is Don stealing a holographic doo-hickey or Casey and Raph being dorks really something to complain about? Especially when you'd probably be just as blissfully careless?

Eh, didn't think so...

And this isn't just to you...its to all those guys reading waaay into this show

And, no bro, it wasn't half-assed. It just wasn't in your favor. If you saw a painting and didn't like it does that necessarily mean the painter didn't try their best? No. So, it's fine to say you didn't like it or it wasn't your most favorite and explain why...but saying its half-assed? Who are you to say, really. Not being rude, I respect your thoughts, but that's border line disrespectful when you've seen from interviews and behind the scenes just how much passion and effort they put into this show, man.

[victory_angel]

What a premiere. Did I like it? Yes! And no.

The way it began was pretty good, maybe a little too quick with turning back time 6 months before Earth was destroyed. Moments, I kept wondering, "Why don't they just go back now and prevent it ahead of time?" But hey. Kids shows.:twink:

When they put on their space suits, it was great seeing all their reactions. First off, I'm happy Leo's geeking out again. Second, this was the best episode for April O'Neil. I really liked her character this time around.:tgrin:

Plus, there was some standout moments: Fugitoid, floating in space, casey's "Vanilla Ice" quote, Leo flirting with an alien, and the introduction of Lord Dregg.

So, why is it that I don't love this episode? Well, let's see. It's one thing to be fish out of water, but the turtles seemed to have left their brains by the ship's door. Donnie touching an object that duplicated him. Funny, but . . . You shouldn't be grabbing something that is not familiar to you. Also, what part of "Don't touch anything" did Casey and Raph did not understand? I was with this episode from the time it started until the turtles started acting like morons.:tmad:

Although, Mikey didn't mean to cause trouble. All he wanted was food. And Leo. He was just being friendly and wanted to talk to someone. I guess those two are kind of vindicated. :toops:

Lord Dregg needs a better motive for killing the turtles. The spice thing seems like a good reason, because maybe the spice was some kind of drug on that planet. Also, he's a smuggler. However, there needs to be some kind of deeper reason behind killing the turtles. What if he was in league with the Triceratons? That would be some twist. I don't know. There needs to be something better. And what about Fugitoid. Why didn't he come with them? Maybe he could've prevented some of the crap the turtles and friends started.

Anyways, for a premiere, not the best, but not the worst. I've noticed with this show that their first episodes aren't that good. "Rise of the Turtles" was the best (mostly because it was the start of a great show), but this, "The Mutation Situation," and "Within the Woods" were weak in certain areas. The Season 2 premiere had April getting mad at the turtles and ending their friendship. I knew it couldn't last long, but I didn't like that. For Season 3, Leo trying to overcome his injury was the best part, but the mutant Creep did nothing for me.

It seems like after every explosive and well-done finale, there has to be a half-assed premiere. :tgrumble:

I think part of their stupidity was that they were for once able to walk around like normal people, that it really got easy to forget that they were still strangers in a strange land.

I don't think Dregg is in league with the Triceraton's. He's obviously something akin to a Mafia bogss which is why he was scary to all those other aliens that were chasing the Turtles. However I can certainly see Dregg turning to Armagon (they did say in his character bio he is a bounty hunter with a taste for Turtle) to capture the Turtles.

I can also see Dregg making deals with the federation and or the Triceraton's for the Turtles capture.


Fugitoid didn't go with them, because he was the one who needed to refuel the ship and get supplies.

From the sound of things in the interview with Cipes and Auman. They do get a food replicator so Mikey is able to get his pizza.


I really like the one where it looks like Raph is screaming (in my mind a movie reference)!
The next one.... I wish I could tell better which turtle was which (Were is my Raph)
Is it Raph who has thrown himself over Splinter's body and April is comforting?

The angle is shifted in the second pic. In the first still Mikey is draped over Splinters dead body. So April is likely comforting him in the second shot.

[Bauer536]

Gonna have to disagree with you on the Turtles leaving their brains behind, unfortunately. Let's just be realistic here, pal, if you were in space...SPACE for the first time at a SPACE PORT seeing aliens and gadgets and armory and whatnot would you not be a little more than giddy about that?

I mean, of you can honestly say that you wouldn't be grabbing cool space stuff and trying out new things then, gee, I don't know what kind of person you are- but, I for one, would be contained, for sure. :lol:

So, I think, we just gotta stop being a tad too critical about the sillier aspects of this show and place yourself in not onky the characters but also the writers' positions. We don't know everything, though we love to think we do. And we don't have to even lift a finger to get these episodes, yet they word their butts off day and night to satisfy all of us vast majority of fans with tons of opinions, requests and complaints. Is Don stealing a holographic doo-hickey or Casey and Raph being dorks really something to complain about? Especially when you'd probably be just as blissfully careless?

Eh, didn't think so...

And this isn't just to you...its to all those guys reading waaay into this show

If I actually was on an alien planet, as exciting as it may be, I'd still be terrified to touch anything or talk to anyone. Yet, maybe I would do what Leo did: try to make conversation, if I wanted to, but I don't know.

Not saying all they did was bad. Mikey just felt lost in world that wasn't his own. Leo was trying to be friendly to another species. Don and April were having fun together. I guess I'm only mad at Raph and Casey. Like I mentioned before: What part of "Don't touch anything" did they not understand?

In other words, they weren't too bad. Not all of them were creating trouble on purpose. I don't know. I guess it's because this episode wasn't what I thought it would be. However, I said the same thing about the Guardians of the Galaxy film, but that changed when I saw it again. Maybe I need to give this a second viewing to enjoy it more. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it was short of amazing.

That's just how I feel.:twink:

[Powder]

A fair amount of people speak against the turtles having silly or immature moments but I for one love them.

It's like this- One of the things that makes Nick's turtles stand apart from the rest, call it a defining trait, even, is that they often times actually feel like teenagers. You can rarely say that of turtles past. Also, that's the kind of humor kids like these days, & kids are the main demographic for this show. Whether or not it's your cup of tea, it's gotta be done. I think they handle the goofy elements really well, having seen some other modern cartoons, it could've gone down an entirely different (& super annoying) path. The whole "LOLSORANDOM" thing. For the first time in forever, the turtles feel a disconnect from the mundane & become kids in a candy shop on this new world. I think that's great. Granted I wouldn't want them to always be that way, but in their first experiences? Sure!

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Bauer536, You're allowed to have an opinion. Don't let anyone change it.:twink:

I liked the episode alot. It was great to see Leo geek out again since we haven't seen a lot of that, if at all, in Season 3. It was pretty cool seeing them float out in space and having fun (except Raph, poor Raph:trazz:).

I really like how Lord Dregg was handled in this episode. I never cared for this character at all in the 87 series so I wonder what they were thinking bringing this character back. But I thought they handled him quite well, aside from his irrational behavior over groceries. Hopefully they will find a way for me to like this version of the character, otherwise....*I say, throw the bum out"!

[The Happy One]

If I actually was on an alien planet, as exciting as it may be, I'd still be terrified to touch anything or talk to anyone. Yet, maybe I would do what Leo did: try to make conversation, if I wanted to, but I don't know.

Not saying all they did was bad. Mikey just felt lost in world that wasn't his own. Leo was trying to be friendly to another species. Don and April were having fun together. I guess I'm only mad at Raph and Casey. Like I mentioned before: What part of "Don't touch anything" did they not understand?

In other words, they weren't too bad. Not all of them were creating trouble on purpose. I don't know. I guess it's because this episode wasn't what I thought it would be. However, I said the same thing about the Guardians of the Galaxy film, but that changed when I saw it again. Maybe I need to give this a second viewing to enjoy it more. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it was short of amazing.

That's just how I feel.:twink:

Hmmm....I can respect that.:)
I didn't mean to be offensive. Just gets under my skin sometimes...but your points are valid so I can't complain. And the boys were a bit reckless:D

[The Happy One]

Bauer536, You're allowed to have an opinion. Don't let anyone change it.:twink:

I liked the episode alot. It was great to see Leo geek out again since we haven't seen a lot of that, if at all, in Season 3. It was pretty cool seeing them float out in space and having fun (except Raph, poor Raph:trazz:).

I really like how Lord Dregg was handled in this episode. I never cared for this character at all in the 87 series so I wonder what they were thinking bringing this character back. But I thought they handled him quite well, aside from his irrational behavior over groceries. Hopefully they will find a way for me to like this version of the character, otherwise....*I say, throw the bum out"!

I really wasn't trying to change his opinion. Honestly, he's entitled to it and I can respect that. I can. I didn't want to come off as rude or mean, I really didn't. So I have to apologize if I did, Bloomer.

And to Bauer, that's to you too. My apologies if I offended you in any way or made it seem like I don't respect you
Are....we good?:tthumbsu:

[BubblyShell22]

I don't think it was that bad what they did. Casey and Raph were acting like typical teenage boys. How many times have your parents said to you, "Don't touch anything" and yet you still have the urge to do exactly the opposite of what they told you to do? I think we've all had moments like that, and that's what I loved about it. They were just being typical kids who don't listen to authority because they're having fun. Like Powder said, I love this show for putting emphasis on the teenage part of the title.

And, Late Bloomer, Leo did geek out in season 3 in "Battle for New York" when they were going to teleport home and he said, "Just like Space Heroes!" But I agree that him geeking out was the best thing ever! I always love when he does that and hope there will be more moments like that.

[srmff]

The next one.... I wish I could tell better which turtle was which (Were is my Raph)
Is it Raph who has thrown himself over Splinter's body and April is comforting?

I think that is Raph who is draped over Splinter in the second picture. The other turtle beside Donnie looks like Mikey to me. The tails of his mask look short and the shape of the head looks like Mikey's to me. The turtle that's draped over Splinter, you can see his bandana tail against the back of his head and it looks long so I think that's Raph.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah but there was still so little of Leo geeking out in Season 3, though. It's cute in this version because you will NEVER see Leo act like that outside this series. The teeange aspect really shows in this version. Funny because despite the "teenage" in the title, I still use to see the turtles portrayed as young adults. I think this aspect will help kids relate to the turtles more. Especially when it comes to pretending to be them when playing outside. Still waiting for that moment where I look outside my window for a kid to pretend to be Leo pretending to be Captain Ryan, though.:lol:

[BubblyShell22]

That's because he got his butt handed to him and he didn't feel like geeking out because he was still healing. I wouldn't want to geek out after getting my a** handed to me by the Foot. I'd just want to kick their a**es.

And that would be hilarious if a kid did that.

[Ninturtle]

Bauer536, You're allowed to have an opinion. Don't let anyone change it.:twink:

I liked the episode alot. It was great to see Leo geek out again since we haven't seen a lot of that, if at all, in Season 3. It was pretty cool seeing them float out in space and having fun (except Raph, poor Raph:trazz:).

I really like how Lord Dregg was handled in this episode. I never cared for this character at all in the 87 series so I wonder what they were thinking bringing this character back. But I thought they handled him quite well, aside from his irrational behavior over groceries. Hopefully they will find a way for me to like this version of the character, otherwise....*I say, throw the bum out"!
I wouldn't say Dregg was freaking out over groceries more so drugs as he was selling a spice which in Star Wars means drugs.

[Powder]

There is also a drug here on earth called Spice, though I don't necessarily think that was what they had in mind for this show... :tlol:

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, spice is a term for synthetic marijuana, though probably a lot of people would have thought he meant spice as in cooking so maybe that's why they were able to get away with it.

[TigerClaw]

I remember the term Spice being used in movies like Dune.

[shuriken]

Damnit I still haven't gotten through season 3 yet... But I saw a preview, it looks neat.

[Mona_Lisa]

Yeah but there was still so little of Leo geeking out in Season 3, though. It's cute in this version because you will NEVER see Leo act like that outside this series. The teeange aspect really shows in this version. Funny because despite the "teenage" in the title, I still use to see the turtles portrayed as young adults. I think this aspect will help kids relate to the turtles more. Especially when it comes to pretending to be them when playing outside. Still waiting for that moment where I look outside my window for a kid to pretend to be Leo pretending to be Captain Ryan, though.:lol:
I Love geeky Leo, Best Leo ever!
Seeing a kid pretending to be Leo, pretending to be Captain Ryan?:teek: That would be great. Hey some of ya'll with kids set this up for us, and post in to YouTube for all to enjoy!!! My kids are to young...

I wouldn't say Dregg was freaking out over groceries more so drugs as he was selling a spice which in Star Wars means drugs. The "spice" ticks him off first... But then April makes some comment about squishing bugs too that makes him mad.

Damnit I still haven't gotten through season 3 yet... But I saw a preview, it looks neat.


Bummer Dude, hope you enjoy it when you see it.

[senpai]

Enjoyed the 2001: Space Odyssey reference in the beginning. Leo was pretty funny in this ep too. His face was hilarious when he was putting on the space helmet. You know he's been waiting his whole life for that one moment. :tlol:

[victory_angel]

And here's to the beginning of season 4, of the Nickelodeon of TMNT series. For the past three seasons the Turtles have had quite a journey since the first day they crawled out of their sewer lair back when this series first began.

In season one they experience the city for the first time, and have their first major victory in the battle against good and evil.

Season two they suffer their first major defeat at the hands of the Kraang and are forced to flee the city to recover from their wounds and ultimately return to reclaim the city.

And lastly in season three, they have been forced to grow up in many ways be it through the discovery of first love, to being forced to step back and see how ones pursuit of love can have negative results. To even experiencing not just defeat, but absolute failure in their attempts to save the world.

In this new season the Turtles journey has taken them far beyond the universe as they know it...into the depths of space itself. Now while our favorite Turtle's have gone into space in other incarnations. But this is a new spin on to the Turtles in space story line.

In the finale of season three, the Turtles had just witnessed their master being murdered and moments later watched as their world was sucked into a black hole before their very eyes. And season four episode premiers just moments after the events with the Turtles sitting with their grief at the losses they have just suffered.

Personally I wished they had a longer moment for them to really absorb the gravity of their defeat. But the new adventure must be acknowledged, as the Fugitoid sends the Turtles six months backward and in time. The Turtles are now tasked with obtaining the three pieces of the Heart of Darkness before the Triceraton's do so they can prevent Earths distruction. And to make it more imperative that they are successful this is their only chance to change events, if they fail the Earth would be destroyed for good and ever.

This is giving the Turtles hope for a better outcome that they would be able to save both the earth and Master Splinter. Which is truly the best case scenario, but the best case isn't always the resulting outcome in the end. I will talk more about this subject another time.

Moving on with the episode we are introduced to a space port on the Planet Varanon that is not unlike, Moss Eisley from Star Wars. It's even mentioned that place is frequented by Smugglers, Pirates, and other low lives. The Turtles also in inadvertently interrupt a drug sale at one point.

There has been some fan complaints about the Turtles actions while on this planet because all of them end up pissing off people through out the space port. Personally I didn't see any actual fault on the Turtles part, after all they are in a place where they have the freedom to walk around like normal people. It's easy to forget that they are still strangers in a strange land, and for most of them the actions done were not intentionally or in the case of Leo were just a complete misunderstanding. Still I am glad the issue wasn't just with one person with the group such as Mikey or Raph and Casey who are the most at fault with their actions. This way they all are still given the fish out of water treatment when it comes to the way things work around that place proving that things aren't like they were on Earth. And at the same time it also introduces us to one of the major big bads of the season, Lord Dregg.

I admit I don't know much about the Red Sky seasons since that was one of the points when I began to lose interest in the OT cartoon, so I can't speak for Lord Dregg in is original appearance. However this version appears to be an all new interpretation making him into an all new character, It would be certainly interesting to see how he will play out in this series, particularly since we have Mona Lisa and Armaggon appearing in upcoming episodes.

Another character that was interesting was the character of Valaxena AKA the alien girl that Leo was hitting on at the bar. The show has given her a name, so that could imply that she could have another appearance in the future. But I don't think she's completely important and if this is the last we've seen of her or her boyfriend Chupo AKA Big Harry Monster (as he is called in the credits). I'm not disappointed.

For the turtles it was awesome to see the Turtles adapting to their environment and Leo geeking out about the fact he was actually living his own personal Space Heroes Fan Fiction was fun to watch. Was this a good premier, yes. It wasn't the best premier for a season opener, but it far from the weakest. And it really sets things up going forward which I hope can really deliver a strong season for this series.

Until next time.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

The jumpsuit people. That is all. :tgrin:

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

So how do you feel about this episode of Star Wars Rebels? :lol:
It really reminded me of Clone Wars. Also I'm late getting to the thread but does anyone else think it's odd that when we see NYC there's like 3 people in the whole city but they can animate a whole dang planet with completely unique creatures all over the place and make it look like a booming metropolis? Is this maybe because the budget now is even bigger? Just an observation is all.

[ssjup81]

It really reminded me of Clone Wars. Also I'm late getting to the thread but does anyone else think it's odd that when we see NYC there's like 3 people in the whole city but they can animate a whole dang planet with completely unique creatures all over the place and make it look like a booming metropolis? Is this maybe because the budget now is even bigger? Just an observation is all.More than likely a budget issue. If this was a traditional 2D show, I'm sure it wouldn't even be an issue.

[Darth Knuckles]

I was able to watch this episode again and I was just wondering if anybody else is hearing something the way I am. When Lord Vringath Dregg says his own name about eighteen minutes into the episode, does it sound like he adds an extra syllable to his name? It keeps sounding to me like he says Vrin-(a or i)-gath. I was just wondering if anyone else was hearing that like I am.

[Amaranthus]

More than likely a budget issue. If this was a traditional 2D show, I'm sure it wouldn't even be an issue.

I noticed some (or maybe it was just one) background character that was just a 2D drawing that didn't move. Like you have in anime sometimes.

[JH24]

I was very skeptical about the fourth season with the turtles going into space, but I was pleasantly surprised with this episode. New backgrounds and environments, the turtles and their reaction to their spacesuits (Especially Leo geeking out), their "adventures" on the alien planet and seeing them act as teenagers, and of course the introduction of Lord Dregg.

I definitely like Dregg's design, although I first assumed he was a second-in-command of Dregg or something.


Very entertaining episode, and written in a good way.

[victory_angel]

The "spice" ticks him off first... But then April makes some comment about squishing bugs too that makes him mad.


Yeah, he's upset about the Star Spice because it was rare and valuable. And for people who feel it was just a grocery there was a time in history where certain things we commonly used in cooking such as coffee, nutmeg and even common vanilla were considered rare and valuable as well.


But yeah, April's comment about killing bugs was probably not the smartest thing she could have said to Dregg right then.

[Jephael]

April's comment about killing bugs was probably not the smartest thing she could have said to Dregg right then.

Yea, that feels more like something Raphael would say.

[Klunk1234]

Love the Fugitoid. I wished a little TARDIS made a cameo appearance. That would been cool, too.