Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 3: The Weird World of Wyrm

[Vicky82]

My turn to make a thread :D

I don't know what's happened to Banhee as she usually does this.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/cb2603f885400330630d7660d0a97475/tumblr_nxerwbECnD1uk9btro1_540.jpg

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teen...-403-clip.html

When Casey Jones discovers a hypercube, he accidentally unleashes a fourth dimensional being called Wyrm.

This fills filler to me and possibly going to be the strangest, weakest episode this season but it may surprise us.

[Powder]

As a huuuuuuuge fan of the old Wyrm action figure, I'm MEGA PUMPED!

Also, Hypercube, eh? A bit close to home... :tlol:

[Shark_Blade]

"Mikey Has Shellacne" felt like a filler too but look at how that turned out. I'm cautiously optimistic on this one.. :)

Is hypercube related to Cybercubed by any chance? :shifty:

[Vicky82]

It's up on I Tunes.

I just watched it (someone put it up on Tune.PK).

It was the most strangest episodes ever but it was funny.

The Fugitoid has his own training room using holograms and the Turtles were fighting Bradford, Dogpund and Rahzar. It was awesome.

They get food by thinking, using this machine

The Turtles new show to watch is Bradford old 80s show which looks like it's referencing Hulk Hogan's Rock and Roll Wrestling.

In this cartoon Bradford kissed a guy dressed up as a woman :o

I don't think Raph fans are going to be happy that he wasted a wish and screwed up. :lol:

I think Mikey fans are happy that he didn't screw up and that someone else did screw up. :lol:

[Amaranthus]

In this cartoon Bradford kissed a guy dressed up as a woman :o

What are you? 12?

[Vicky82]

What are you? 12?

No I was surprised that they got away with that in a kids show.

[ShelleyQuick]

What a crazy episode. I loved it. It was awesomely weird.

[cookie jar]

I just watched it. It was weird but funny episode.

Well it was Donnie who wished the second wish. And at the end it turned out it was a good thing.

[Vicky82]

TMNT is the only kids show I watch (I don't count The Simpsons, Family Guy ect), I have no problem with it, it just surprised me that's all.

But what I don't get that they put Raph and Mona Lisa kiss off screen but allow to show Bradford kissing a man dressed up as a woman

[The Happy One]

Maybe to leave it up to the imagination?? I have no idea- I kinda wish they would have, though:ohwell:
Didn't they do that with April and Don in Northampton? It was like some odd camera angle so you couldn't tell.
They just like to tease, I guess:D

[UnwiseOne]

This was a very weird episode to me, I really enjoyed it. Though it feels kind of a waste of an episode to me.

[Penst0ck]

Can someone just do a list of what ppl wished for under spoilers, pleas? I just want to go through my work day happily imagining what this will all look like til I'm finally free.
Thanks.

[Vicky82]

Can someone just do a list of what ppl wished for under spoilers, pleas? I just want to go through my work day happily imagining what this will all look like til I'm finally free.
Thanks.

Just don't come in this thread, if you don't want to be spoiled.

[Jester]

Thread cleaned. Keep it about the episode...

Oh...and Vicky...Bradford's show more a parody of this:
ZX_sqxLWHig

[TigerClaw]

It's almost time. :)

[Penst0ck]

Just don't come in this thread, if you don't want to be spoiled.

No I want to be spoiled. I meant put it under spoiler bar for anyone who doesn't.

[Jester]

1. Casey Wishes for excitement, leading to the cube.
2. Donnie wishes Casey wasn't such an idiot.
3. Raph wishes for an anti-Wyrm laser cannon...which is against Wyrm rules.

[TigerClaw]

Here we go!

[Penst0ck]

1. Casey Wishes for excitement, leading to the cube.
2. Donnie wishes Casey wasn't such an idiot.
3. Raph wishes for an anti-Wyrm laser cannon...which is against Wyrm rules.

Thanks! Ooo man is this a recipie for disaster.

[Vicky82]

Thread cleaned. Keep it about the episode...

Oh...and Vicky...Bradford's show more a parody of this:
ZX_sqxLWHig

Oh right thanks, I never heard of it and I was born in the 80s too :P

But also it had someone called Master C obviously a parody of Mr T so the show will have references to the A Team too.

[ssjup81]

Oh right thanks, I never heard of it and I was born in the 80s too :P

But also it had someone called Master C obviously a parody of Mr T so the show will have references to the A Team too.I just totally busted out laughing when I saw the cartoon they were watching because I got the reference right off the bat. I never watched Chuck Norris' Karate Kommandos, but I knew about it.

That aside, I doubt they'll have A-Team references. They'll probably give nods to the old Mr. T cartoon...which I DID watch. lol

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1465718&postcount=68

[GoldMutant]

Did... they just reference Vince McMahon with "it was me all long?"

So far I'm not impressed; I can already tell Casey is going to be terrible yet again. :roll: Come on, make the character cool, not a whiny spoiled brat.

[Vicky82]

I just totally busted out laughing when I saw the cartoon they were watching. I never watched Chuck Norris' Karate Kommando, but I knew about it and thought of it right away.

That aside, I doubt they'll have A-Team references. They'll probably give nods to the old Mr. T cartoon...which I DID watch. lol

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1465718&postcount=68

Thanks I forgot there was a Mr T cartoon.

[saintsaucey]

Yeah the first thing I thought of was the mr. T cartoon with the group of teen gymnasts.

[TigerClaw]

For once, Casey Jones did something smart.

It was a good episode.

[GoldMutant]

More entertaining than the last two weeks, but my gosh this episode was rushed and just as stupid as Dregg's motive. My twenty five cents worth:

While Wyrm was entertaining, he did border on being just as annoying as previous side characters such as Mondo and the recent behavior of Rocksteady and Bebop at the end of season 3. Probably the best new character of season 4 introduced for the fun factor, otherwise the episode is just sheer stupidity.

I can't believe how idiotic Casey has to be in this show; after all the destruction of the planet and freezing to death, he wants excitement. That's not how I think Casey should act, it's ridiculous of the lengths this character goes to just have fun. With that said, the wishes were entirely rushed and sheer perfect timing, no reasons for any of the wishes to leave an impact. I swear the characters have to be toned down on what to do to prolong the plots present, a filler like this that barely hints at the parts for restoring Earth shouldn't be part of it.

Although the Bradford beginning, the Bradford show and Wyrm make the episode entertaining, the rushed nature and overall no relation to the plot make this completely unwarranted by this point. Wyrm is a great addition at the very least, but overall I'm not impressed three times in a row now. Armaggon, don't fail me now next Sunday. :ohwell:

[Vicky82]

IGN Review

8.0

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/11/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-weird-world-of-wyrm-review

[Bitsy83]

:teek::teek::teek: Well, that episode was super insane with a side of extra crazy....

I liked it and Dwight Shultz was pretty entertaining. You can tell he was channeling his inner "Disney Genie" to pull off the role.

Only thing is...I sort of got sad watching it too. While I was having breakfast, MTV was showing "Hook" and, of course, that's one of Robin Williams' most iconic movies. I couldn't help but want to hear Williams as Wyrm, only because A) his daughter is Mona Lisa and it would've been neat to see them working on the same series, even if not in the same episode and B) he was said to be a huge TMNT fan, so I'm sure he would've liked doing a guest spot. Shultz was good, but I couldn't help but think that Williams would've been even better, since Wyrm was clearly inspired by Disney's Genie from "Aladdin." Even though the show bombed, Williams was planning on returning to TV with "The Crazy Ones," so he might have had time to do an episode or two. I'm sure he would've had a lot of fun doing this; I just can't help but get a little sad whenever I think of him and his problems.

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't be posting stuff like this. BACK TO THE EPISODE!!! And even though it's already aired on TV, I'll put up spoilers for people who have yet to see it:

It was a filler. Not a bad filler, since we might be getting introduced to these other "reality altering beings" later on, but still a filler. The animation was spot on and I'm sure the animators themselves liked doing these scenes. The holographic training room is a very nice touch; sort of X-men-ish with the Danger Room. Although Casey being drawn to the cube was kind of...stupid? Maybe they were pulling off some sort of subtle LOTR thing with Gollum or maybe his wish is what made him drawn to it. And Casey was pretty clever with the trick, but him being granted a bonus wish made it kinda of "Deus Ex Machina." It would've worked better if Casey had made the alliance, then used the THIRD wish. But I guess Wyrm could grant any wish he wanted since he was free of the cube, which makes less sense because he could've just changed his mind and I dunno, head hurting. Let's just go back to "That should've been the third wish" scenario.

Now I'm not saying I hated the episode. It was fun, entertaining, and did open up a possibility to new characters (the blob looking one might come back). I just think since we're only going to be in space for 13 episodes, they should try to link them all together, which is what I believe they said at the Comic Con panel. Hopefully it'll be the only filler we get in the arc.

Oh, and I guess we could chalk up the new Chris Bradford show as this season's cartoon parallel thingy. I remember those lame "Celebrity Animated spinoff" shows from the 80s/90s. At first I thought it was copying "Jackie Chan's Adventures," which was pretty decent actually, but once someone mentioned the Chuck Norris thing, I was like "Yeah, that makes sense." I bet when they return to Earth, Mikey will look for the rest of the episodes to watch till the end of season 4. I just thought they were going in decade order. Space Heroes was the 60s, that robot show was the 70s, and Crognard was the 80s. So I figured we'd get a 90s show, like "Reboot" with really blocky CGI animation or one of those "EXTREME" action shows. Either way, the Bradford show is cool.

And...what's with Fugitoid having those Anthony Warhol pics on his wall? Narcissistic much? Ah, well. It's neat.

[Ninturtle]

More entertaining than the last two weeks, but my gosh this episode was rushed and just as stupid as Dregg's motive. My twenty five cents worth:

While Wyrm was entertaining, he did border on being just as annoying as previous side characters such as Mondo and the recent behavior of Rocksteady and Bebop at the end of season 3. Probably the best new character of season 4 introduced for the fun factor, otherwise the episode is just sheer stupidity.

I can't believe how idiotic Casey has to be in this show; after all the destruction of the planet and freezing to death, he wants excitement. That's not how I think Casey should act, it's ridiculous of the lengths this character goes to just have fun. With that said, the wishes were entirely rushed and sheer perfect timing, no reasons for any of the wishes to leave an impact. I swear the characters have to be toned down on what to do to prolong the plots present, a filler like this that barely hints at the parts for restoring Earth shouldn't be part of it.

Although the Bradford beginning, the Bradford show and Wyrm make the episode entertaining, the rushed nature and overall no relation to the plot make this completely unwarranted by this point. Wyrm is a great addition at the very least, but overall I'm not impressed three times in a row now. Armaggon, don't fail me now next Sunday. :ohwell:

Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.

[NinjaPug]

Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.

Armaggon episode is next week. HSH is on the 22nd.

[Ninturtle]

Armaggon episode is next week. HSH is on the 22nd.

Oh thanks , I'm now officially excited for next sunday.

[GoldMutant]

Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.

Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCProgram.do?sId=EP01589323&t=Teenage+Mutant+Ninja+Turtles&method=getEpisodesForShow&desc=on

Armaggon appears next week and then the following week its the Half Shell Heroes. The latter already aired on Nick.com and everywhere else on platforms, not the actual channel.

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.

As for Casey, his stupidity shouldn't and thrill for adventure be this irritating. He can be bumbling, but actually focused I want to see. The fact he was this foolish for that wish is contrived, I don't see why he needs to do that. I stand by my point, the bits of points of plot don't get addressed and needs to do.

[kelligrafie]

Wouldn't have given it 8/10, think IGN are going a bit far up somebody's backside with that rating. I'd probably go as high as 6.5/10.

Wasn't terrible, wasn't great. It felt very rushed to me. One of those episodes where an extra 10 minutes would really have helped with pacing.

The Good

The holodeck with Bradford, Dogpound and Rahzar was a great intro scene.
Wyrm is an interesting character. Very out there. There's the obvious comparison with Genie from Aladdin because he's so whacky. But for me, he more reminds me of the character 'Q' from Star Trek. He was a rogue character, you couldn't call him outright villain, but he wasn't a hero either. He would randomly show up and create a really tricky scenario for the Enterprise crew to get out of. Didn't answer to anybody.
Astro-Zombies? Very cool.
We get to see a bit more of Fugitoid's ship.
The animation is getting better and better. Some lovely little sequences.
No Apritello or Capril or love triangle rivalry.
Mikey's new TV show obsession?
.

The Bad

Yeah, said it before but the pacing was very hurried.
The wastage of the wishes by Donnie and Raphael. A bit reminiscent of when we saw the turtles' fears with Fungus Humungous. If that episode annoyed you, then the way they handle the wishes in this one, probably will too.
The end wish from Casey breaks the rules of good writing. Wish your characters INTO danger, never wish them OUT of danger because the viewers/readers WILL feel short changed
Not enough Fugitoid, although that's a personal preference really.



Did anyone notice that when they were watching the Chris Bradford show, that behind Raph, Fugitoid has David Hockney pop art portraits of himself?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTTha3uWwAQ3nLL.jpg

[Ninturtle]

Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCProgram.do?sId=EP01589323&t=Teenage+Mutant+Ninja+Turtles&method=getEpisodesForShow&desc=on

Armaggon appears next week and then the following week its the Half Shell Heroes. The latter already aired on Nick.com and everywhere else on platforms, not the actual channel.

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.

As for Casey, his stupidity shouldn't and thrill for adventure be this irritating. He can be bumbling, but actually focused I want to see. The fact he was this foolish for that wish is contrived, I don't see why he needs to do that. I stand by my point, the bits of points of plot don't get addressed and needs to do.

It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.

[The Happy One]

This episode was pretty wicked!

Casey seemed off, though at some times; I don't know if it was just me...

But, overall the episode- like these last few- have been fun.:D

I love the new show they were watching!!! It was hilarious.
-Chuck Noris references all over
-Master C!:lol:
It was priceless, really.

Then I couldn't help but feel Mikey was extra adorable with his little tongue sticking out and kicking his chubby feet while watching the show...Dwaaaw:lol:
*Ahem*

What I loved...

Anywho...I thought Wrym was awesomely crazy! He reminded me of some Bill Cipher kinda character- kooky and really, really- well- weird.

-Donnie and April talking like regular best friends appreciation!!! Yes, I love it!

-I also loved that they had things going on in the background. It was just the little things that made you smile while other stuff was going on:)

-Mikey cuteness (and not messing up) :D

-Donnie's various expressions were priceless! Heck, all of there's were!
-Leo being called Captain, tho:tthumbsu:
-Oh! And that holographic training was a very awesome touch. Great job guys!

-April still being an independent, boss charcter appreciation

-And, as usual, be-a-utiful animation!!!

What I found...displeasing

-Casey was rather...meh the first part. He seemed too immature. But towards the end, he was pretty cool so all is alright.

-I wish *wink* *wink* that it didn't feel a tad rushed. I know- and this is a bummer- that they only have so much time and those dumb 'Ricky Dicky and whatever their names are commercials' get in the way, but, overall it was great:D

Excited for Armaggon!

[GoldMutant]

It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.

Even if creative, there's no hinting at it is my issue. Unless the spice is explained in the future for its importance, it just doesn't seem great unless Dregg went bankrupt from what they accomplished for accidental stupidity of running into him. Might be me, but whatever is presented to me I look at until either explained or the character is finished. Until then, I just want an explanation of the spice, without it being a mere reference to the subject matter of Star Wars or real life.

Either way, I just want an explanation and if the next episode's description is a given, hoping Dregg has reasons. Armaggon, please don't disappoint! :ohwell:

[kelligrafie]

It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.

Dregg has to be OTT ruthless, he's a gangster. He can never show weakness, to anyone. The price or rarity of the drug is irrelevant. I heard a story of a kid who accidentally scratched a random car on the street with his bike. Complete accident. Only the car belonged to a really rough family and they went and beat the hell out of him. They probably weren't even bothered by the scratch and it was nothing personal against the kid, they just had a reputation to uphold. True story. That's how it works.

I think Casey in this episode has an element of Gollum to him. You could argue there was a little bit of subconcious manipulation from Wyrm there, to make opening the box appealing. Like Mikey and the hypnotic Pizza Face offspring. "Eatttttttt me."

[Amaranthus]

IGN Review

8.0

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/11/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-weird-world-of-wyrm-review

IGN gives every episode of this series a good review. It's really doesn't mean that much.

[cookie jar]

Did anyone notice some similarities with 'Meet the Wigglenog', episode from 'Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!', show Ciro Nieli and Brandon Auman worked on?

[TheMasterTurtle]

I enjoyed seeing wyrm have an episode. Always one of my favorite characters that never was in any show (Cept for the commercial)

Very fast moving ep but it's up there with my favorite filler episodes.

[victory_angel]

Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCProgram.do?sId=EP01589323&t=Teenage+Mutant+Ninja+Turtles&method=getEpisodesForShow&desc=on

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.


He was selling the star spice aka the drugs, not buying them. Dregg was mad at them because he was in the middle of a drug sale with these dwarfish aliens,

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/victory_angel/drug%20sale_zps6sqipgvg.jpg

The Turtles not only interrupted said sale (all but unintentionally), they also accidentally destroyed his product, which as he said was worth 5,000,000 zinthax. And thus humiliated his credibility.

I think the major problem is not Dreggs motives, we don't know about Dregg himself. At this time we only know he is a dangerous crime lord as the people chasing the Turtles (even Chupo) immediately end chase and walk away.

But the Turtles and co being strangers to the cultures of Space had never heard of him, so they had no clue who they were messing with.

[Amaranthus]

Did anyone notice some similarities with 'Meet the Wigglenog', episode from 'Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!', show Ciro Nieli and Brandon Auman worked on?

They made a thread about that a while ago.

[Donatello19]

Pretty good episode. I still think is the worst version of Casey we've had, but Wyrm was really cool! I loved him, he reminded me of the Genie from Aladdin :lol:

[victory_angel]

How was his last wish smart. The only smart wish would've been to send them back in time before the earth was destroyed.

It made no sense.. You're gonna go back to before you found the box... But not before the whole earth got destroyed

Because they have already gone back six months before the Earth was destroyed, that was done in the beginning of "Beyond the Known Universe" and their quest in Space is to get the parts of the Heart of Darkness before the Triceratons do.

[BabyTurtles]

Because they have already gone back six months before the Earth was destroyed, that was done in the beginning of "Beyond the Known Universe" and their quest in Space is to get the parts of the Heart of Darkness before the Triceratons do.

Haven't seen the episode....but why didn't they just wish for those Heart of Darkness parts??

[Amaranthus]

Haven't seen the episode....but why didn't they just wish for those Heart of Darkness parts??

Because then Wyrm would still be free and he'd destroy entire planets.

[matteso586]

Gotta love the music that plays while Wyrm is blowing up planets. I heard it on one of the trailers for Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time, and the Phineas and Ferb episode, 'This is Your Backstory".

[The Happy One]

Haven't seen the episode....but why didn't they just wish for those Heart of Darkness parts??

Because- drum roll please.......PLOT'S SAKE! :lol:

I mean, if they could fix it by one wish- just wish everything back to perfect normalcy- then the whole rest of the Space Arc and the big Crossover we're dying to see would be irrelevant to have.
And besides, people'd conplain about it being a cheap, lazy quick-fix anywho.

Personally I would've ended it differently- but the way they did wasn't that bad either:)

[The Happy One]

Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCProgram.do?sId=EP01589323&t=Teenage+Mutant+Ninja+Turtles&method=getEpisodesForShow&desc=on

Armaggon appears next week and then the following week its the Half Shell Heroes. The latter already aired on Nick.com and everywhere else on platforms, not the actual channel.

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.

As for Casey, his stupidity shouldn't and thrill for adventure be this irritating. He can be bumbling, but actually focused I want to see. The fact he was this foolish for that wish is contrived, I don't see why he needs to do that. I stand by my point, the bits of points of plot don't get addressed and needs to do.


I'm gonna take a stab at this and say that whatever spice it was that Dregg was buying or selling or whatever has little to do with anything. Heck- they could've scratched his bug-mobile or stepped on his toes.

What's important and I think what some are missing is that he's an arogant, haughty, and very obsessive dude.
He ain't just gonna let it go- the fact that they even touched him was enough for Dregg to hate them. But then they knock over his spice, attempt to fight him and kill his buggies. I dunno about you, dude, but I'd be totally pissed

Enough to send my armada after 'em? Eh...maybe not. But this is Lord Dregg we're talking about...he's wacko:lol:
But it would be cool to see if that spice would've tied into he plot so we can really understand its importance, though.

But as for Casey, yeah, he can be focused and loving and still an idiot. It's all about balance. And I think once Nick gets the right guy who can write him with that balance- because they are close sometimes- it'll be all good.
Either way, ya gotta love Casey Jones :tgrin:

[TLP]

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TMNT 2K12 / SRMTHFG shared universe confirmed.

IGN gives every episode of this series a good review. It's really doesn't mean that much.

Agreed.

[snake]

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TMNT 2K12 / SRMTHFG shared universe confirmed.



Agreed.

*shared multiverse

[CyberCubed]

Fun ep. Reminded me of Teen Titans.

[GoldMutant]

He was selling the star spice aka the drugs, not buying them. Dregg was mad at them because he was in the middle of a drug sale with these dwarfish aliens,

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/victory_angel/drug%20sale_zps6sqipgvg.jpg

The Turtles not only interrupted said sale (all but unintentionally), they also accidentally destroyed his product, which as he said was worth 5,000,000 zinthax. And thus humiliated his credibility.

I think the major problem is not Dreggs motives, we don't know about Dregg himself. At this time we only know he is a dangerous crime lord as the people chasing the Turtles (even Chupo) immediately end chase and walk away.

But the Turtles and co being strangers to the cultures of Space had never heard of him, so they had no clue who they were messing with.

Like I said, do they cover the spice? Does it hold any relevance besides the anger of Dregg? No, it has no substance at this time and extremely stupid until they bring it up. We know nothing of the spice neither this character at all; its extremely stupid until then. Dregg remains the weakest antagonist thus far until they justify this spice on why he did what he did; it's ludicrous either way to me.

Drug reference or not, I find it stupid and until they justify it, I find it a stupid motive. End of story.

I'm gonna take a stab at this and say that whatever spice it was that Dregg was buying or selling or whatever has little to do with anything. Heck- they could've scratched his bug-mobile or stepped on his toes.

What's important and I think what some are missing is that he's an arogant, haughty, and very obsessive dude.
He ain't just gonna let it go- the fact that they even touched him was enough for Dregg to hate them. But then they knock over his spice, attempt to fight him and kill his buggies. I dunno about you, dude, but I'd be totally pissed

Enough to send my armada after 'em? Eh...maybe not. But this is Lord Dregg we're talking about...he's wacko:lol:
But it would be cool to see if that spice would've tied into he plot so we can really understand its importance, though.

But as for Casey, yeah, he can be focused and loving and still an idiot. It's all about balance. And I think once Nick gets the right guy who can write him with that balance- because they are close sometimes- it'll be all good.
Either way, ya gotta love Casey Jones :tgrin:

Bug-Mobile? Dude, now you need 60s Batman! :lol:

Furthermore though, the Turtles could have apologized and they didn't; instead, they get cocky and Dregg gets angry. I don't have any sympathy for these characters being this jerkish or Dregg for throwing a fit until that spice is justified.

Just hired whoever made CJ vs the Underworld, by far it's one of the best of season 3, being my second favorite this season. I love Josh Peck, but the writing of this character is heavily questionable. This character needs some growth or something like a CJ of the past. :ohwell:

[The Happy One]

Like I said, do they cover the spice? Does it hold any relevance besides the anger of Dregg? No, it has no substance at this time and extremely stupid until they bring it up. We know nothing of the spice neither this character at all; its extremely stupid until then. Dregg remains the weakest antagonist thus far until they justify this spice on why he did what he did; it's ludicrous either way to me.

Drug reference or not, I find it stupid and until they justify it, I find it a stupid motive. End of story.



Bug-Mobile? Dude, now you need 60s Batman! :lol:

Furthermore though, the Turtles could have apologized and they didn't; instead, they get cocky and Dregg gets angry. I don't have any sympathy for these characters being this jerkish or Dregg for throwing a fit until that spice is justified.

Just hired whoever made CJ vs the Underworld, by far it's one of the best of season 3, being my second favorite this season. I love Josh Peck, but the writing of this character is heavily questionable. This character needs some growth or something like a CJ of the past. :ohwell:

Sorry, caught some nostalgia there:D

But, yeah. Whoever did that episode did a great job of capturing that 'vigilantism' in Casey as well as his sly, humorous, cockiness. They need them, immediately :lol:

[Cjmart019]

Wouldn't have given it 8/10, think IGN are going a bit far up somebody's backside with that rating. I'd probably go as high as 6.5/10.

Wasn't terrible, wasn't great. It felt very rushed to me. One of those episodes where an extra 10 minutes would really have helped with pacing.

The Good

The holodeck with Bradford, Dogpound and Rahzar was a great intro scene.
Wyrm is an interesting character. Very out there. There's the obvious comparison with Genie from Aladdin because he's so whacky. But for me, he more reminds me of the character 'Q' from Star Trek. He was a rogue character, you couldn't call him outright villain, but he wasn't a hero either. He would randomly show up and create a really tricky scenario for the Enterprise crew to get out of. Didn't answer to anybody.
Astro-Zombies? Very cool.
We get to see a bit more of Fugitoid's ship.
The animation is getting better and better. Some lovely little sequences.
No Apritello or Capril or love triangle rivalry.
Mikey's new TV show obsession?
.

The Bad

Yeah, said it before but the pacing was very hurried.
The wastage of the wishes by Donnie and Raphael. A bit reminiscent of when we saw the turtles' fears with Fungus Humungous. If that episode annoyed you, then the way they handle the wishes in this one, probably will too.
The end wish from Casey breaks the rules of good writing. Wish your characters INTO danger, never wish them OUT of danger because the viewers/readers WILL feel short changed
Not enough Fugitoid, although that's a personal preference really.



Did anyone notice that when they were watching the Chris Bradford show, that behind Raph, Fugitoid has David Hockney pop art portraits of himself?
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Nice attention to detail with those Fugitoid portraits!

[BabyTurtles]

Because then Wyrm would still be free and he'd destroy entire planets.

I thought they had 3 wishes?

[neatoman]

So why'd they use Wyrm for this role? Granted, Wyrm is pretty much a blank slate (like so many other TMNT characters from the 90's) but this is stretching it. Mona Lisa in the last episode might have had a vastly different origin and personality from the original character but at least she had a similar role to play.

I'm not really complaining since I think the character was pretty much a blank slate, it's just that they might as well have created an entirely original character.

[ssjup81]

I thought they had 3 wishes?The first two were wasted. Casey wished that their mission wasn't boring and were attacked by Space Zombies. To be fair though, that wish was granted without his knowledge. They hadn't even discovered Wyrm yet. He overheard it.

The second wish was reminiscent, imo, of earlier eps, like how they'd accidentally alerted Kraang. They were trying to figure out what they should wish for and Casey kept saying stupid things and Donnie frustratingly and emotionally wished that he wasn't an idiot. I thought this was realistic. It's no different from a person frustratingly saying, "I wish you'd just be quiet".

The third wish, once again, in an emotional and frustrating manner was wasted by Raph.

I actually had no problems with Donnie and Raph wasting the wishes since it was purely emotional and natural. I also had no problem with Casey's first wish.

[TigerClaw]

Do you guys think we seen the last of Wyrm, or he'll show up in some future episode? Though the show usually have characters they would revisit in a future episode.

However, If Wyrm were to ever come back and the Turtles find him, They won't remember that they seen him before, but based on what happened at the end of this episode, I could see the potential of one of them realizing they met him before, the whole deja vu thing.

[BabyTurtles]

The first two were wasted. Casey wished that their mission wasn't boring and were attacked by Space Zombies. To be fair though, that wish was granted without his knowledge. They hadn't even discovered Wyrm yet. He overheard it.

The second wish was reminiscent, imo, of earlier eps, like how they'd accidentally alerted Kraang. They were trying to figure out what they should wish for and Casey kept saying stupid things and Donnie frustratingly and emotionally wished that he wasn't an idiot. I thought this was realistic. It's no different from a person frustratingly saying, "I wish you'd just be quiet".

The third wish, once again, in an emotional and frustrating manner was wasted by Raph.

I actually had no problems with Donnie and Raph wasting the wishes since it was purely emotional and natural. I also had no problem with Casey's first wish.

wow...that's kinda dumb actually.....I mean the whole world is in danger, think they could be serious for a moment?? :ohwell:

but cartoon logic whatever XD

[neatoman]

Do you guys think we seen the last of Wyrm, or he'll show up in some future episode? Though the show usually have characters they would revisit in a future episode.

However, If Wyrm were to ever come back and the Turtles find him, They won't remember that they seen him before, but based on what happened at the end of this episode, I could see the potential of one of them realizing they met him before, the whole deja vu thing.

I think it's unlikely Wyrm shows up again, most characters are really only given one episode.

[Autbot_Benz]

I thought they had 3 wishes?

to set Wyrm free Wrym needs to fufill 3 wishes Casey wasted one than Donny wasted another so if they used the final wish to get the dark hole matter stuff wyrm would be free

[Vicky82]

wow...that's kinda dumb actually.....I mean the whole world is in danger, think they could be serious for a moment?? :ohwell:

but cartoon logic whatever XD

At least it wasn't Mikey wasting on those wishes, there would have been a lot more complaining. :D

[TLP]

I'm not fond of the idea that just because it's a cartoon for kids means it can get away with sloppy writing.

But if the Wyrm shows up again, honestly I would want him be killed off by some powerful bounty hunter; along with an off-handed mention of the other two chaos lords being obliterated by the said hunter.

Female space bounty hunter!

[ssjup81]

wow...that's kinda dumb actually.....I mean the whole world is in danger, think they could be serious for a moment?? :ohwell:

but cartoon logic whatever XDThe others were. Casey's wish suggestions frustrated Donnie and he just said, "I wish you weren't an idiot!" It wasn't an intended wish. We use "I wish" in general a lot in the English language. It's easy to say it without even realizing it, hence Donnie and Raph. Raph was so annoyed while fighting against Wyrm, he wished he had something to defeat him with, but it was like an emotional outburst, hence why I said it was a realistic approach. Also, the first wish was granted without their knowledge. Casey randomly wished it wasn't boring. They hadn't even discovered Wyrm yet.

[BubblyShell22]

This episode was a lot of fun! I loved Wyrm and I do hope we see him again at some point. He definitely reminded me of Genie from Aladdin and I, too, wished that Robin could have voiced him as that would have been great, but the VA who did voice him did good so no complaints there. Also loved the Bradford episode which reminded me more of Mr. T. which I used to watch as a kid and the holographic training room which I hope to see more of. The wishes weren't unrealistic and were said in the heat of the moment, but I thought Casey did a good job of saving the day and how he did it was very sneaky as Wyrm only said they could have three wishes, but Casey outsmarted him and was granted a bonus wish. Overall, it was a fun ep, and I really enjoyed it. Can't wait for Armaggon next week.

[Vicky82]

I can't wait to watch the Armaggon episode next week I never read the Archie comics but did look him up. I reckon it will be a pretty dark episode as the last 3 have been mostly light hearted and funny.

[aliena]

I liked this episode enough...
The holodeck is cool and then there is "You have man breath". I liked Wyrm, but man that dude is terrifying when he's just blowing up random planets. Mikey looked horrified at that idea. Donnie calling Leo Captain and everyone just accepting it as fact. Donnie and April were comfortable good friends and that was refreshing. Casey was the usual annoying teen Casey, but it didn't feel good to think of him as evil. Fugitoid was just awesome as always. I will miss the heck out of him when he flies off in the end. :cry:

[Etsyturtle2]

This is just like Aladdin. If a wish isn't valid, why does it count as a used wish? It sucks.

[victory_angel]

I thought it weird was there was one moment where Donnie is suddenly carrying Leo bridal style.

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[Powder]

Everything I hoped for & more. So damn good. References off the charts!

[Ninturtle]

Everything I hoped for & more. So damn good. References off the charts!

I didn't really catch any aside from Wyrms design being based on his figure, can you list some?

[cryan]

Thread cleaned. Keep it about the episode...

Oh...and Vicky...Bradford's show more a parody of this:
ZX_sqxLWHig

Ah, Chuck Norris and t he Karati Commandos. Yes, sadly I remember that series.

[ssjup81]

I didn't really catch any aside from Wyrms design being based on his figure, can you list some?
For me....

Star Trek
Aladdin
Chuck Norris Karate Kommandos
Mr. T

[OrangeNinja1987]

5/10
I don't know what to say. Everyone's already discussed the good and the bad and I pretty much agree.
I do love that 80's Chris Bradford show. Ever since Bradford was introduced I've seen him as a reference to Chuck Norris. And it was nice that they touched upon plot points from the earliest episodes of the series. It reminds me how different the show is now.
Fugitoid is perfect. He didn't get to do much in this episode and I thought it odd that he wasn't concerned about the random wish-granting alien before bad stuff happened. But he was still great this episode.
Will there be an episode explaining why Fugitoid is a cyborg? I've seen the explanation in the 2k3 show but they should explain it in this one, too.
Yet another Mikey gross-out joke, and a few more gross-out jokes throughout the episode. I've just learned to live with them.
I hated Wyrm. He reminded me of the Joker really poorly done. I did love that Leo got away with chopping his head off. It was with the intent to kill, because he didn't know it wouldn't hurt him or he wouldn't have done it. Great job getting that in. :)
The coolest parts were the Bradford fight and them being stuck in that really cool trap that kept repeating (how do I even say it?). I love it when this show incorporates a little bit of science, especially confusing science.
The beginning with the space zombies and the space ship sending out an eternal distress signal was just like this Sci-Fi/horror novel I read once, but only the first thirty pages or so.
Not an impressive episode. I usually wonder what people think of each episode if it was their first time watching TMNT, because I became a fan of this show after seeing Never Say Xever's premiere (now I'm a TMNT fanatic). I'd imagine any new viewers watching this wouldn't come back for another episode, even if it was a little fun for people who get this show already.

[TigerClaw]

I can't wait to watch the Armaggon episode next week I never read the Archie comics but did look him up. I reckon it will be a pretty dark episode as the last 3 have been mostly light hearted and funny.
I'm curious about that, cause Armaggon in the comics is from the future.

[TurtleTitan97]

Not a bad episode. I liked the reference of the space genie from Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go episode with him making a cameo and all.

[JTH]

It's most likely not a reference, but they used the same tactic to defeat a genie that was used in a "Chip N' Dale Rescue Rangers" episode.

By wishing that none of it had ever happened. :D

[Powder]

I didn't really catch any aside from Wyrms design being based on his figure, can you list some?

For me....

Star Trek
Aladdin
Chuck Norris Karate Kommandos
Mr. T

+ The Misfits (punk band), Alien, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Superman, & surely more I'm not remembering at the moment.

Not to mention a lot of Wyrm's moves had a very Looney Tunes vibe to 'em.

[IndigoErth]

What did I watch? lol That was...amusing, and pretty clever on the Casey part of it. But man that character is (I assume intentionally) annoying. :trazz:

[TurFlytle]

+ The Misfits (punk band), Alien, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Superman, & surely more I'm not remembering at the moment.

Not to mention a lot of Wyrm's moves had a very Looney Tunes vibe to 'em.

Don't forget Dr. Manhattan. I think the Chris Bradford Fact is a reference to the Chuck Norris Facts.

[CyberCubed]

+ The Misfits (punk band), Alien, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Superman, & surely more I'm not remembering at the moment.

Not to mention a lot of Wyrm's moves had a very Looney Tunes vibe to 'em.

The 3 wishes also reminded me of DBZ with the 3 wishes from the Namek dragon.

[NoName999]

Da hell was this?

While the episode was funny at first, halfway through it seemed like the writers were throwing stuff at the wall to see what would stick. Not to mention that the episode was a big reset button so it was completely pointless in the grand scheme of things.

Also, there's a good chance that an immeasurable amount of lifeforms died when Wyrm was blowing up planets

[ssjup81]

Also, there's a good chance that an immeasurable amount of lifeforms died when Wyrm was blowing up planetsHence their reactions.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Sooo.... He's Q meets Mr. Ogg?! That's kind of what I'm getting out of all this. Haven't seen it yet, but that's what he sounds like. Not surprising, though, it's become a common trope to have an "obnoxious omnipotent being" show up in various shows, particularly sci-fi.

[Powder]

Don't forget Dr. Manhattan. I think the Chris Bradford Fact is a reference to the Chuck Norris Facts.

I meant to write Watchmen but Superman came out. :tlol: & The Chuck Norris thing was in the post I quoted.

[Wildcat]

Not a big deal but how was Wyrm able to grant the first wish if he was inside the cube? It was 3 wishes and he'd be free as in having freedom (Fugitoid mentions he was a criminal)...not free to be out of the cube, right? That happened after when Casey opened it.

[Ninjinister]

Fuh... tried acquiring the episode on my Xbox One and it just hangs at "Buying".

[TLP]

Guys, you gotta check out tumblr right now. It's exploding with people connecting this show to the Super Robot Monkey Team universe.

And with connections like this... (http://srmthg.tumblr.com/post/132671635819/everybody-start-freaking-out#notes)

[CyberCubed]

Guys, you gotta check out tumblr right now. It's exploding with people connecting this show to the Super Robot Monkey Team universe.

And with connections like this... (http://srmthg.tumblr.com/post/132671635819/everybody-start-freaking-out#notes)

http://www.recaption.com/uploads/284634fd4b7aa51d91.jpg

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Not my favorite episode, kinda disappointing I was expecting more zany-ness, and "wierdness". Wyrm was cool though, but the episode felt too rushed.

[JTH]

http://www.recaption.com/uploads/284634fd4b7aa51d91.jpg
This is the same show that showed us they're connected to the Ghostbusters universe just a couple episodes earlier.

Before acting like it's just a bunch of people acting ridiculous, perhaps consider it's could be done with merit to connect worlds, universes, & other "2-D animated, 80's dimensions" that they'll be crossing with shortly. ;)

[neatoman]

So I just watched that Robot Monkey episode for comparison...

Yeah... I'm not gonna lie, there's some David Wise levels of shameless here. It's pretty much identical, even down to some dialouge. The only real differences is that the genie doesn't fight until after he's free and the battle has a few different tricks.

I know most people probably don't remember the show the script was recycled from but that's not much of an excuse.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Not as funny as I thought it would be. It was okay-ish, I guess.:ohwell:

[Technogeek29]

Sorta felt meh about the whole thing.

[Shark_Blade]

I thought it was funny. :D

When I saw Chris Bradford's animated show... :o :lol:

[2K3]

Who had "V for Vendetta" vibes when Wyrm was blowing up planets? Maybe it's cause of the music used!

[Amaranthus]

Guys, you gotta check out tumblr right now. It's exploding with people connecting this show to the Super Robot Monkey Team universe.

And with connections like this... (http://srmthg.tumblr.com/post/132671635819/everybody-start-freaking-out#notes)

Tumblr is dumb. Who could've guessed?

[The Happy One]

Tumblr is dumb. Who could've guessed?

Tumblr is, indeed, a crazy place.:D
Must proceed with caution:lol:

[Filespit]

Awesome episode this. Wyrm's got to be one of the more unique villains so far. I hope we get so see more of him. Storywise though, this episode didn't do much, but it was still a lot of fun.

[TurtleTitan97]

Who had "V for Vendetta" vibes when Wyrm was blowing up planets? Maybe it's cause of the music used!

A little off topic, but does anyone know the name of the music that was used in that scene? Been trying to find out the name of that piece for what feels like ages.

[JTH]

This was a very weird episode to me, I really enjoyed it. Though it feels kind of a waste of an episode to me.
...the episode didn't tip off what this episode would be?

"The Weird World of Wyrm"

"The Weird World"

Weird

WEEEIIIIIIRRRRRRD

[evan2000]

A little off topic, but does anyone know the name of the music that was used in that scene? Been trying to find out the name of that piece for what feels like ages.

1812 Overture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_Overture)

[TurtleTitan97]

1812 Overture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_Overture)

You sir are a saint. :tcool: Love the avatar and sig, BTW.

[tmntfanuk]

Just watched this ep. Ugh. And what was the point of it?

[The Happy One]

Just watched this ep. Ugh. And what was the point of it?

To be weird, weirder and...really, really weird :lol:

[ssjup81]

Just watched this ep. Ugh. And what was the point of it?To be entertained?

[Etsyturtle2]

In the Chris Bradford cartoon, the sumo guy reminded me of tattoo from the vintage toy line.

[Cure]

To be entertained?

A concept beyond some people.

[snake]

I really liked this one. I think MOTW is more interesting in space.

[Garfield]

I like this Episode, completely zany and fun. some really comic book high omnipotent craziness. Its kind of like the Pizza Face in its ridiculousness. I think this series is best when it just grasps being ridiculous and outlandish.

[Powder]

To be entertained?

Took the words outta my mouth...

Why are people so fixated on everything being story driven/connected to an overarching plot? That's never been TMNT's style, yo, no matter how hard y'all try to force it. There's always been just as much, if not more standalone material than serialized content. They're trying to find a balance between the OT's lack of continuity & 4kids' more constant stream, & I'm not only glad for that, but impressed that they're handling it so well. TMNT needs "filler", it's what makes the series accessible. You can pick up & watch that kinda stuff any time, whereas other story-driven episodes require legwork.

[THGhost]

Had completely forgot there was an episode this week.

This was crazy as hell, a lot of fun. :tcool: A very good r̶e̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶p̶i̶s̶o̶d̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶S̶u̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶R̶o̶b̶o̶t̶ ̶M̶o̶n̶k̶e̶y̶ ̶T̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶H̶y̶p̶e̶r̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ ̶G̶o̶!̶ episode; loved Wyrm - his first cartoon appearance, unless I'm mistaken?

A concept beyond some people.

Tell me about it. :roll:

+ The Misfits (punk band), Alien, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Superman, & surely more I'm not remembering at the moment.

Not to mention a lot of Wyrm's moves had a very Looney Tunes vibe to 'em.

The 3 wishes also reminded me of DBZ with the 3 wishes from the Namek dragon.

Add Aladdin, The Mask, Beetlejuice to that mix as well.

[AdamWarlock87]

Did anyone else crack up when Leo cut Wyrms head in half and it came off just like his action figures would come off? It was a great episode had lots of laughs and more butt cannons.

[Toadtrooper]

The head on my Wyrm figure never came off. But it was always one of my favorites.

I like his outfit upgrade while keeping him distinctively Wyrm, but considering everything, this really was more of an early Season 3 episode. It didn't need to happen in space.

I also think it would have been better to focus in on just one zany homage. Before the wishes, I got a very Oogie Boogie vibe from him which would have really fit in with the astro-zombies bit. While they were good visually, the references lacked the smaller nuances that made each one of those homages iconic.

At around 83 seconds, the Bradford cartoon was 6% of the episode (1363 seconds total including opening). I don't think we needed that much of it for foreshadowing's sake.

Not bad. The worst part of the episode is realizing that an updated Wyrm figure would probably be less fun than the original. I love those moving eye stalks. And the Porcuepounder! That was a really obvious missing reference even though they got the Trash Compactor Mallet in.

[Technogeek29]

Took the words outta my mouth...

Why are people so fixated on everything being story driven/connected to an overarching plot? That's never been TMNT's style, yo, no matter how hard y'all try to force it. There's always been just as much, if not more standalone material than serialized content. They're trying to find a balance between the OT's lack of continuity & 4kids' more constant stream, & I'm not only glad for that, but impressed that they're handling it so well. TMNT needs "filler", it's what makes the series accessible. You can pick up & watch that kinda stuff any time, whereas other story-driven episodes require legwork.

I just didn't really like this filler, but I do enjoy the random mash ups sort of reminds me of Mirage. Most issues in volume 1 have the Turtles off on some wacky adventure with little to no relevance to what happen an issue ago.

[Jephael]

I haven't watched it the whole way through yet as I overslept the other day and awoke at around 11:20, so I only caught the final act. Funny thing is, I kinda predicted the final wish being "We wish none of this ever happened." since basically they did the same thing once in an episode of Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers back in the day.

[JTH]

I haven't watched it the whole way through yet as I overslept the other day and awoke at around 11:20, so I only caught the final act. Funny thing is, I kinda predicted the final wish being "We wish none of this ever happened." since basically they did the same thing once in an episode of Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers back in the day.
Sorry, already beat ya to it.

It's most likely not a reference, but they used the same tactic to defeat a genie that was used in a "Chip N' Dale Rescue Rangers" episode.

By wishing that none of it had ever happened. :D

[evan2000]

From the episode:

Chris Bradford Fact #48: Chris Bradford always carries around four weapons of mass destruction: his arms and his legs.

And look what I found: http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/search/node/two%20arms

Ciro & co. did their homework after all :tlol:

[ranger_scout]

I really didn't enjoy this episode. It kind of felt like a waste of time to tell you the truth.

[JH24]

I just loved this episode, it was one crazy ride. I'm not really fond about Wyrm's design, but I certainly loved his voice and interactions with the turtles.

An entertaining episode which was written in a good way. Some of the things I liked were the turtles having found a new cartoon, Casey becoming a genius due to Donnie's big mouth, the turtles ending up in a kind of illusion were each one was owned by an ice-skating Casey, and the turtles actually showing genuine fear/shock when they thought Casey was really turning on them.


My favorite moment was the scene when Casey actually wished that he had never found Wyrm. Seeing the turtles cheer and celebrate just made me smile. I love little moments like those.

Only thing that's a bit of a shame is that everything was reversed and this episode never happened. Personally I like to pretend they do have a sense of deja vu, and perhaps some feelings or images in their mind of what happened without knowing the full picture.

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I noticed how vocal Donatello always seems to be in regards to Casey. (Scolding him about touching the cube, wishing that Casey wasn't such a dummy and "Casey, you traitor")

In a way Don's reactions show how much he cares for Casey. (and vice versa) They make excellent team players, and at this point I would say Casey has a deeper bond with Donatello than with Raph.

[THGhost]

I haven't watched it the whole way through yet as I overslept the other day and awoke at around 11:20, so I only caught the final act. Funny thing is, I kinda predicted the final wish being "We wish none of this ever happened." since basically they did the same thing once in an episode of Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers back in the day.

I think pretty much every genie episode ends with "We wish none of this ever happened."

I really didn't enjoy this episode. It kind of felt like a waste of time to tell you the truth.

http://i.imgur.com/Yzrrr.gif

[Jephael]

I think pretty much every genie episode ends with "We wish none of this ever happened."

Except Aladdin and Duck Tales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp. Then again, those are animated feature films.

[Ashwolf]

Don't really consider this ep filler cause I think it was opening up 4 those other 2 "master of chaos" beings 2 appear in the show
For me....

Star Trek
Aladdin
Chuck Norris Karate Kommandos
Mr. T

There's also the resident evil references

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I noticed how vocal Donatello always seems to be in regards to Casey. (Scolding him about touching the cube, wishing that Casey wasn't such a dummy and "Casey, you traitor")

In a way Don's reactions show how much he cares for Casey. (and vice versa) They make excellent team players, and at this point I would say Casey has a deeper bond with Donatello than with Raph.


Maybe they're going for more of a 90 film angle, where Casey and Donnie bonded while working in the garage together. That would make sense.

[Guitar_Raph]

Man, granting the Turtles three wishes was cool. If each of them had a wish...

DON: Have a makeout session with April
RAPH: Same for Don, except it would be Mona Lisa
LEO: To team up with his cartoon hero
MIKEY: To be in a band, able to play 5 instruments (drums/tympani/organ/vibes/guitar) & sing.

[Penst0ck]

I noticed how vocal Donatello always seems to be in regards to Casey. (Scolding him about touching the cube, wishing that Casey wasn't such a dummy and "Casey, you traitor")


I loved the performance out of Rob and Mae in this episode, in regards to Casey's betrayal. They both sounded so hurt, it pulled my heart strings a little.

[THGhost]

Except Aladdin and Duck Tales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp. Then again, those are animated feature films.

Hence why I said genie episodes. ;)

[DVD]

Crazy episode. 25 minutes of cool, silliness.
It was of course, pretty obvious how it was going to end, but I guess a whole bunch of 5 year olds never saw that coming.
Wyrn himself was very well done, capturing the Playmates toy essence and putting him into a crazy persona. Loved it.

Highlight - Space Zombies - They looked great and I really hope we get a Space Zombie action figure.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

Don't really consider this ep filler cause I think it was opening up 4 those other 2 "master of chaos" beings 2 appear in the show


There's also the resident evil references

...and Watchmen. Dr. Casey Manhattan anyone? And yes those space zombies were killer...I'd love to make a space zombie horde for my turtle figs.

[TurtleTitan97]

Don't really consider this ep filler cause I think it was opening up 4 those other 2 "master of chaos" beings 2 appear in the show


Doubtful. One of those two masters of chaos was the Wigglenog from Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go.

[THGhost]

Don't really consider this ep filler cause I think it was opening up 4 those other 2 "master of chaos" beings 2 appear in the show

Doubtful. One of those two masters of chaos was the Wigglenog from Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go.

Yep, very doubtful.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/TVTropes39_5413.jpg (http://srmthfg.wikia.com/wiki/Wigglenog)

[Jephael]

Upon re-watching the episode just now, I noticed a little goof they did. Just before Casey explains how they're trapped both inside and outside the hyper-cube, we see his eye outside the window, but then every shot afterwards we see the stars and space.

[Ashwolf]

Yep, very doubtful.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/TVTropes39_5413.jpg (http://srmthfg.wikia.com/wiki/Wigglenog)

Thought a cgi image of him was shown at comic con, not that holographic projection either

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Except Aladdin and Duck Tales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp. Then again, those are animated feature films.

I am the biggest Ducktales fan on planet earth. Just sayin'. Carry on. LOL! Fun episode btw. Not my favorite but still had some fun moments.

[darthwahl56]

I assume that with these nostalgic call backs we will eventually get Scratch, Scumbug, Rex, and Antrax, to name a few and hopefully a return of Mutagen Man.

[Shark_Blade]

Is it me or those countless hands crawling and caressing all over Raph's body is a bit... sensual? Nick you naughty rascals!

[TurtleTitan97]

It's just you

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I just totally busted out laughing when I saw the cartoon they were watching because I got the reference right off the bat. I never watched Chuck Norris' Karate Kommandos, but I knew about it.

That aside, I doubt they'll have A-Team references. They'll probably give nods to the old Mr. T cartoon...which I DID watch. lol

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1465718&postcount=68

The Mr. T cereal was the BOMB! LOL!

[Nasubionna]

OK, I admit it, after watching the preview clip I was NOT expecting to enjoy this episode. I thought it looked like obnoxious filler and I thought Wyrm would be super grating. But I was super pleasantly surprised by it, and I think it's my favorite of season 4 so far (granted, that's not saying a lot since we're only a few episodes in, but y'know... :P )
It started out strong for me with the holodeck Bradford training session. I LOVED that, seeing human Bradford and Dogpound again, that was just too much fun. I love any sort of callback to the earlier seasons and characters (like when Muckman mentioned the Pulverizer) it makes for a more cohesive-feeling universe. And I am cracking up that Bradford's show is the season 4 cartoon, I always head-cannoned that he had a Chuck Norris/Mr. T style cartoon, and now it's a reality! :lol:
The astro-zombies and their set up was super cool and creepy, and I was shocked at how funny I found Wyrm and how enjoyable he was to watch/listen to. His voice actor did great, and his facial expressions are top-notch, which is impressive when you're working with a face like that!! I also appreciated that they at least mentioned the fact that they were still searching for the Triceratrons and the black hole generator parts, so while it was filler, they still had their primary mission in mind.

So yeah, it was basically filler, but I have no problem with filler episodes as long as they're enjoyable and entertaining. Heck, many of my favorite episodes in this series have technically been filler (I LOVED "In Dreams" and "Fungus Humungous" and "Parasitica", off the top of my head).

[Commenter 42]

As a huuuuuuuge fan of the old Wyrm action figure, I'm MEGA PUMPED!

Also, Hypercube, eh? A bit close to home... :tlol:

AHAHAHA!

Didn't put that together until right now.
From what I've heard, he's a big hit over at Nick.

The references...THE REFERENCES!!! I don't normally go in for them , but the way it's done here....soooo good.
Might have been nice to throw a better twist at the end...felt too tidy, especially April's line.

Wyrm was absolutely perfect.

[Shiro Kame]

To me, it was one the worst episodes this cartoon ever produced. It had an ugly, obnoxious jerkass genie; Casey being flanderized as an immature idiot; and it felt like pointless filler.

Also, why didn't the fugitoid know what the hell Wyrm was sooner before they made the second wish?

[Papenbrook]

This episode made me feel high.

I... don't think I'll ever watch it again. It was so stupid for me.

[TurtleTitan97]

This episode made me feel high.

I... don't think I'll ever watch it again. It was so stupid for me.

You've been saying this for practically every episode. Why continue watching the show when it's apparent that you don't enjoy it? It's not like anyone's judging you.

[Papenbrook]

You've been saying this for practically every episode. Why continue watching the show when it's apparent that you don't enjoy it? It's not like anyone's judging you.

You're right.

However, I want to see how the show ends. I also want to get closure on some loose ends.

[TurtleTitan97]

You're right.

However, I want to see how the show ends. I also want to get closure on some loose ends.

Can't say I quite understand your logic. But whatevs, you're free to do what you please.

[snake]

I still think this was the best episode this season. I f*cking loved it.

[Powder]

I still think this was the best episode this season. I f*cking loved it.

You've always had good taste. :trazz:

[Ninturtle]

This episode made me feel high.

I... don't think I'll ever watch it again. It was so stupid for me.

So wouldn't that be good.

[drgon78]

You know I still haven't got to see this episode yet.

[Amaranthus]

You know I still haven't got to see this episode yet.

We totally care, lol.

[Etsyturtle2]

You know I still haven't got to see this episode yet.

I couldn't care less about when you watched the episode.
I liked it a lot though. Seemed a lot like the alladin genie.
Very "out there".

[Klunk1234]

Strange but good episode.

[victory_angel]

Strange but good episode.

And you get a Tardis reference in that the Ulixes is larger on the inside.

[Klunk1234]

And you get a Tardis reference in that the Ulixes is larger on the inside.

That's Cool! Good observation. Thank you, Victory :)

[Yoshimickster]

Love this ep, especially since its a direct tribute to Ciro Nieli's previous work "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go!" Also I thought it was a LITTLE weird at first that his origin was so different from his previous incarnations, but considering the toy described him as pretty much "Muckman 2" and the comics version was SO different it barely looked like Wyrm, I'm cool.

[Pollyparrot]

Love this ep, especially since its a direct tribute to Ciro Nieli's previous work "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go!" Also I thought it was a LITTLE weird at first that his origin was so different from his previous incarnations, but considering the toy described him as pretty much "Muckman 2" and the comics version was SO different it barely looked like Wyrm, I'm cool.

I don't know anything about past versions of Wyrm, but this is my favorite episode this season. He's such a fun character. Wasn't there a Wyrm action figure in the original toy line?