Marvel's Iron Fist

[TurtleTitan97]

Marvel has named Scott Buck as the showrunner for the upcoming Netflix series. Here is the official synopsis:

Returning to New York City after being missing for years, Daniel Rand fights against the criminal element corrupting New York City with his incredible kung-fu mastery and ability to summon the awesome power of the fiery Iron Fist. “Marvel’s Iron Fist” is the fourth series as part of an overall deal between Marvel Television and Netflix, which has already released the critically-acclaimed first seasons of “Marvel’s Daredevil” and “Marvel’s Jessica Jones,” with “Marvel’s Luke Cage” premiering in 2016. All four heroes will then unite in the mini-series event “Marvel’s The Defenders.”

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=127739

[Etsyturtle2]

Cool . I loved DareDevil. I'm excited for the defenders too. Doesn't greg cipes voice him on the spiderman show?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hell yeah. For being a non comic reader, I actually went out and read a ton of Iron Fist to study up before this show comes out. This is gonna be amazing!

[TigerClaw]

Marvel has named Scott Buck as the showrunner for the upcoming Netflix series. Here is the official synopsis:



http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=127739
Hmm, seems like the link isn't working.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oooh, awesome! I wonder if they will eventually turn Iron Fist and Luke Cage into a Heroes For Hire mini or movie? Throw in White Tiger and we could have a great team. I'm thinking Black Cat for a fourth. Or possibly Colleen Wing or Misty Knight.

[NinjaPug]

I'm glad the rumors of this show getting cancelled were untrue but I hate the choice of showrunner. Buck's work on Dexter as showrunner was really bad.

[Bry]

I'm glad the rumors of this show getting cancelled were untrue but I hate the choice of showrunner. Buck's work on Dexter as showrunner was really bad.

Yeah, same here. He's done some fairly decent work as a writer (as well as some fairly less-than-decent work), but he had the reins on that show when it went flying completely off the rails into sheer idiocy.

Fingers crossed, because I want Iron Fist to be great, but Buck in charge doesn't fill me with confidence.

[JakeSully]

Sounds cool.

Now if they can only do Howard The Duck and Punisher as Netflix TV Ma shows.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sounds cool.

Now if they can only do Howard The Duck and Punisher as Netflix TV Ma shows.

Yeah, Howard the Duck is awwwwesome. :trolleye: Maybe TMNT can do a Cudley the Cowlick TV series, too. :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

You dirty, no good Cudley hater.

[Leo656]

Iron Fist sounds like a porn. Next.

http://img.itch.io/aW1hZ2UvMjYyMTQvMTA1ODYwLmdpZg==/300x300%23/GCnqRD.gif

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You dirty, no good Cudley hater.

Dude, I don't hate Cudley. That bovine tasted awesome medium-rare.

[Leo656]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/a374e0f17404779b21779d7c77243755/tumblr_nnqnicEjtL1uta7y2o1_250.gif

[JakeSully]

Yeah, Howard the Duck is awwwwesome. :trolleye: Maybe TMNT can do a Cudley the Cowlick TV series, too. :tlol:

You didn't know Howard was a Marvel character? it was long before the movie. And seeing him at the end of Guardians was awesome as he could be a nice addition to the Marvel universe on film and TV.

Even Blade needs a TV Ma Netflix or Hulu show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You didn't know Howard was a Marvel character? it was long before the movie. And seeing him at the end of Guardians was awesome as he could be a nice addition to the Marvel universe on film and TV.

Even Blade needs a TV Ma Netflix or Hulu show.

Yes, I'm aware of who Howard the Duck is. He's an anthropomorphic duck who would be quite tasty roasted and basted in mint jelly.

I'd be all in for a Moon Knight or Punisher series, but mainly, I want more Jessica Jones.

[TurtleTitan97]

According to Mike Colter the role of Iron Fist has already been casted: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/iron_fist/iron-fist-has-already-been-cast-according-to-luke-cages-mike-colter-a130522

[plastroncafe]

Well now I'm all curious who they've got in the basement.

Also...I would totally be in support of Zdarsky's "Howard" working his way into the MCU. Those books are a damn delight.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yes, I'm aware of who Howard the Duck is. He's an anthropomorphic duck who would be quite tasty roasted and basted in mint jelly.

I'd be all in for a Moon Knight or Punisher series, but mainly, I want more Jessica Jones.


Hey! Watch how you talk about my in-laws! That's just baiting the family! Then again, Howie never calls, never writes, nothing. Not even an email or Tweet....


Well now I'm all curious who they've got in the basement.

Also...I would totally be in support of Zdarsky's "Howard" working his way into the MCU. Those books are a damn delight.


Indeed! I'd love to see a (semi) serious show for him. Wonder how the MCU would handle him with Civil War? Would they deny him registration like they did in the comics?

[NinjaPug]

Finn Jones (Loras from Game of Thrones) cast as Iron Fist

http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/iron-fist-finn-jones-netflix-series-marvel-1201715086/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Confirmed. Woo! :tcool:

[NinjaPug]

Here come the "whitewashing" comments from people who don't realize Danny was always a white guy.

[plastroncafe]

Well...while we're waiting for them to arrive, I'll be over here musing about how they managed to find a blonde white guy not named Chris. And sighing disappointedly that they passed on a different casting.

[NinjaPug]

I get the outrage at casting another white pretty boy for the role. No issue with that at all. My problem is people assuming they changed the ethnicity of the character and complaining about that. I never thought about it but I saw someone bring up a great point about casting an Asian actor as Danny. It would be weird that the first Asian character in the MCU is one that studies martial arts.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I get the outrage at casting another white pretty boy for the role. No issue with that at all. My problem is people assuming they changed the ethnicity of the character and complaining about that. I never thought about it but I saw someone bring up a great point about casting an Asian actor as Danny. It would be weird that the first Asian character in the MCU is one that studies martial arts.

It would also be weird that being an entitled white guy is integral to Danny's story; he's an outsider in every way.

Besides, yeah... it's not a win if the first Asian character in the MCU is a stereotypical kung-fu master.

On a different topic, what sort of antagonistic individual or force do you think will unite the likes of Matt Murdock, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Danny Rand into the Defenders? Who do they come together to fight?

[plastroncafe]

I've yet to see someone assume that IronFist is anything other than a whiteboy, or see a version of the character that's anything other than a whiteboy.

Whether it'd be more weird to have yet another Asian Martial Arts master or to continue on with mighty whitey (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey)...well that's debatable.


On a different topic, what sort of antagonistic individual or force do you think will unite the likes of Matt Murdock, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Danny Rand into the Defenders? Who do they come together to fight?

They are introducing The Hand this season on Daredevil....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I've yet to see someone assume that IronFist is anything other than a whiteboy, or see a version of the character that's anything other than a whiteboy.

Whether it'd be more weird to have yet another Asian Martial Arts master or to continue on with mighty whitey (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey)...well that's debatable.



They are introducing The Hand this season on Daredevil....

Considering that of the four Defenders getting TV shows on Netflix, one is a white woman, one is a blind white man, and one is a black man, I feel like Netflix MCU is already doing far more for diversity than cinematic MCU. I can live with Danny Rand remaining his original ethnicity.

I dunno, I've always thought of The Hand as more Daredevil and Elektra-centric. Are there any lower-level team-up villains these guys go up against? Thanos Lite? :tlol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Finn Jones (Loras from Game of Thrones) cast as Iron Fist

http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/iron-fist-finn-jones-netflix-series-marvel-1201715086/

Sweet, looking forward to the series more and more.

I wonder how they'll go about adapting his costume for the series.

[ToTheNines]

Not familiar with this dude, but they haven't really gone wrong with casting these Netflix shows yet, except maybe Foggy.

And yeah, I don't know how it became an overnight paradigm that Danny needed to be Asian. Go read the source material, please.

[TurtleTitan97]

Shang-Chi is coming to Iron Fist: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/iron-fist-tv-series-will-feature-shang-chi-a131705

[Candy Kappa]

I get the outrage at casting another white pretty boy for the role. No issue with that at all. My problem is people assuming they changed the ethnicity of the character and complaining about that. I never thought about it but I saw someone bring up a great point about casting an Asian actor as Danny. It would be weird that the first Asian character in the MCU is one that studies martial arts.

I feel ya. With Iron Fist you kinda can't win with the casting, either you cast a non-white and get the fan lash of not following the comics, and deal with The Martial Arts Kung Fu guy being (probably) Asian. And you can't have 2 Asian actors with Shang-Chi appearing, cause TV/Movie law says so. I mean the other black person in Star Wars 7 was playing a CGI character. :P

Or you cast a white guy and deal with the (blue-eyed, blonde) white savior complex and the not so sensitive origin 1970's Iron Fist have which was taken from Amazing-Man a 1939 Golden Age superhero, so you know you got some racism right there.

Ideally, he could be of mixed heritage which could be played very nicely with the outcast from both worlds angle.

As long as the costume have the 70's cleavage, I'm game.

[TurtleTitan97]

Jessica Henwick has been casted as the female lead Colleen Wing: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/01/iron-fist-jessica-henwick

[ToTheNines]

http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/d/a0/56fedd75966ee.jpg

[plastroncafe]

As long as the costume have the 70's cleavage, I'm game.

The kids are wearing Deep Vs again...

[MsMarvelDuckie]

D@mn, this makes me wish I had Netflix now. So many cool shows, and I can't watch 'em!

[TurtleTitan97]

David Wenham has been casted as Harold Meachum: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/iron_fist/iron-fist-adds-lord-of-the-rings-and-300-actor-david-wenham-as-harold-a137424

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/d0/570bf2a890e96.jpg

[TurtleTitan97]

Filming starts on the 18th:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgCXYArWcAEjlsE.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Jessica Stroup & Tom Pelphrey Join the Netflix Original Series ‘Marvel’s Iron Fist’
The Meachum famiy stands united when Danny Rand returns!

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/1/10/57154f7e42837.jpg

Jessica Stroup (“The Following”) and Tom Pelphrey (“Banshee”) have joined the growing cast of the Netflix original series “Marvel’s Iron Fist” as Joy and Ward Meachum, childhood acquaintances of Danny Rand’s who now play an important role in Rand Enterprises.

The children of Harold Meachum (David Wenham), Joy and Ward have spent their lives building Rand Enterprises to its current standing in the world, only to have all their work put in jeopardy when Danny returns to claim his birthright.

“I’m very happy to have Jessica and Tom as our Joy and Ward Meachum,” said Executive Producer and Showrunner Scott Buck. “Much like Danny Rand’s past is a mystery to us, we’ll discover along the way that the Meachum children have intriguing secrets of their own."

Stroup and Pelphrey complete the cast of series regulars for “Marvel’s Iron Fist,” which includes Finn Jones as Danny Rand, Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing, and David Wenham as Harold Meachum.

In “Marvel’s Iron Fist,” Daniel Rand returns to New York City after being missing for years. He fights against the criminal element corrupting New York City with his incredible kung-fu mastery and ability to summon the awesome power of the fiery Iron Fist.

http://marvel.com/news/tv/26051/jessica_stroup_tom_pelphrey_join_the_netflix_origi nal_series_marvels_iron_fist

[Andrew NDB]

On a different topic, what sort of antagonistic individual or force do you think will unite the likes of Matt Murdock, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Danny Rand into the Defenders? Who do they come together to fight?

I'm assuming some kind of combined force of bad guys from Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist. Led by the Kingpin.

[NinjaPug]

First look at Finn Jones as Danny Rand. Looks like we've got another hero returning home as a hobo. Hopefully we get a shot of him in the suit soon.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/fb8f34f30529e1fbab29882e04841cdd/tumblr_o5uliqg5Ca1ujllzro4_400.png

[NinjaPug]

Carrie-Anne Moss is reprising her role from Jessica Jones for Iron Fist:

http://marvel.com/news/tv/26205/carrie-anne_moss_joins_netflix_original_series_marvels_ir on_fist

[TurtleTitan97]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn7vdHhUMAAtMZe.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sweet. But gimme some footage.

[ToTheNines]

But what month....

[TurtleTitan97]

Sweet. But gimme some footage.

Ask and ye shall receive: https://twitter.com/IsotopeRose/status/756308813628661760

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Ask and ye shall receive: https://twitter.com/IsotopeRose/status/756308813628661760

You are my frickin' HERO. :tgrin:

[TurtleTitan97]

Iron Fist will feature more villains than any of the other Netflix shows: http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/07/22/joe-quesada-on-luke-cage-embracing-nyc-and-iron-fists-villain-count-sdcc-2016

[TurtleTitan97]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct6wsBRXgAAdMv0.jpg:large

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

3.17.17!?

That's at least a whole month earlier than I expected!

<fist pump of exhilaration>

[ToTheNines]

3.17.17!?

That's at least a whole month earlier than I expected!

<fist pump of exhilaration>

It's later than I expected. That's about 6 months after Luke Cage. We got Daredevil season 2 only 4 months after JJ.

Plus I'm really going hoping we get 3 shows in 2017. Defenders in summer or early fall, then JJs2 or Punisher early Winter.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's later than I expected. That's about 6 months after Luke Cage. We got Daredevil season 2 only 4 months after JJ.

Plus I'm really going hoping we get 3 shows in 2017. Defenders in summer or early fall, then JJs2 or Punisher early Winter.

I think it's going to play out as:

Iron Fist, Punisher, Defenders 2017
Daredevil s3, Jessica Jones s2, Heroes for Hire or Luke Cage s2 2018

[MikeandRaph87]

They really need to bump it up to three a year instead of two if they keep adding to the schedule. I want to see Daredevil season 3,but know it will possibly be a year from now or even a little longer. As for Iron Fist I was expecting early February. Daredevil season 2 was bumped up so many Iron Fist will especially if Marvel sees what is on its schedule.

[ToTheNines]

I think it's going to play out as:

Iron Fist, Punisher, Defenders 2017
Daredevil s3, Jessica Jones s2, Heroes for Hire or Luke Cage s2 2018

I'm pretty sure they're filming Defenders and JJ2 next. I heard Punisher will be on Agents of SHIELD this season though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm pretty sure they're filming Defenders and JJ2 next. I heard Punisher will be on Agents of SHIELD this season though.

They're filming Punisher as we speak.

Unless it's just Frank Castle appearing in Defenders. But photos have been taken of Berenthal in the wild with a beard.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm pretty sure they're filming Defenders and JJ2 next.

I seem to recall reading Defenders and JJ2 would be shot back-to-back a couple of months ago.

[ToTheNines]

They're filming Punisher as we speak.

Unless it's just Frank Castle appearing in Defenders. But photos have been taken of Berenthal in the wild with a beard.

I missed that yesterday. Cool!

But Defenders is only like 4 episodes , I think. If they start soon, it'd be ready before Punisher. Either way, looks like we're getting 3 next year.

So 2018 can be JJ2, DD3 and Heroes for Hire.

I seem to recall reading Defenders and JJ2 would be shot back-to-back a couple of months ago.

That is correct.

[Andrew NDB]

But Defenders is only like 4 episodes , I think.

What?? Where did you read that?

[ToTheNines]

What?? Where did you read that?

Just checked. It's 8. Sorry.

[MikeandRaph87]

They're filming Punisher as we speak.

Unless it's just Frank Castle appearing in Defenders. But photos have been taken of Berenthal in the wild with a beard.

Its not for Defenders, its for his solo series which is currently filming.

Heroes for Hire is a series as well? Would that mean that Luke Cage/Power Man gets one season then Iron Fist gets one season before they fold into another show, Heroes For Hire?

[Andrew NDB]

Heroes for Hire is a series as well? Would that mean that Luke Cage/Power Man gets one season then Iron Fist gets one season before they fold into another show, Heroes For Hire?

I don't think there's been any official word about that, but combining them might make a lot of sense.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Its not for Defenders, its for his solo series which is currently filming.

Heroes for Hire is a series as well? Would that mean that Luke Cage/Power Man gets one season then Iron Fist gets one season before they fold into another show, Heroes For Hire?

I don't think there's been any official word about that, but combining them might make a lot of sense.

Absolutely not confirmed, but it would be an extremely likely route. Possibly after both protagonists have at least two seasons each? Havta wait and see.

[Allio]

I thought last I heard, that Defenders was on a tight schedule, hence why they couldn't fit season 2 of JJ before it, I assumed it was because of Infinity war; try to get them both out the same year.

[MikeandRaph87]

The Heroes For Hire title caught my eye, if Netflix is getting ambitious and adding The Punisher as a fifth ongoing series and the Defenders mini-series all officially signed off it feels like a likely direction, that with it being listed in a press release is unofficially merging the series. I could be wrong.

If we could get three seasons of different shows a year I think it could all work.

I don't see the output of Netflix series and the film schedule effecting one or another's release. It may be tied together, but its a separate overseer and not forcing one to slow down or sped up production. Continuity is all that ties it together.

[TurtleTitan97]

We're getting a comic book prequel for Iron Fist:

http://mcuexchange.com/thesite/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/iron-fist.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

Iron Fist trailer

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/784898698341822464

[TigerClaw]

Iron Fist trailer

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/784898698341822464
Here it is on Youtube

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[TurtleTitan97]

Is it just me, or did any else hear Hoon Lee as the narrator?

But dang, that's a pretty great teaser.

[MikeandRaph87]

Is it just me, or did any else hear Hoon Lee as the narrator?

But dang, that's a pretty great teaser.

I thought it was my ears playing tricks on me. So he must be Danny's mentor in the upcoming series.

[plastroncafe]

Oh good! I'm glad I wasn't the only one!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

aw yeah.

DANNY RAND, B!TCHES!

[Cure]

Just a nitpick, but the glow effect on his fist could be better to me.

[PApagreg]

Just a nitpick, but the glow effect on his fist could be better to me.

Yeah it kinda looks a little iffy to me also I hope we get some practical fight scenes instead of flipping and acrobatics

[TurtleTitan97]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

f9OKL5no-S0

AW YEAH!!!!! :tcool:

I will be getting no sleep from March 17 until I finish the season.

...

He said insincerely, knowing that life responsibilities will force him into bed by 2am. :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

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[ToTheNines]

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[NinjaPug]

Reviews got released today and the majority are pretty negative.

Of course the reviews for Luke Cage were good and I thought that was terrible.

[Cure]

Of course the reviews for Luke Cage were good and I thought that was terrible.
Yeah, it was the same thing for me with Jessica Jones.

[kaptainmyke]

http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/iron-fist-review-netflix-marvel/

Misfire. Swing and miss.

[ToTheNines]

Hm, I'll let the story speak for itself, but the reports of the fight scenes being lame is pretty scary. I let that **** slide with JJ and LC because of their powers, but Iron Fist should be the same level or way better than Daredevil. They got the 2 fight choreography guys from DD, the two guys from Winter Soldier and an ass load of other martial arts experts, so I'm expecting some crazy ****.

And there's still a lot of butthurt over Danny being white. Boohoo, I hate white people :(

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm still really excited.

[Autbot_Benz]

Iron fist is still getting negative reviews and its at 14% on Rotten Tomatoes

[saintsaucey]

Iron fist is still getting negative reviews and its at 14% on Rotten Tomatoes

It's not even aired yet.

[ToTheNines]

Some critics have been shown the first 6 episodes.

[NinjaPug]

Still don't understand why they hired Scott Buck as showrunner. His work on Dexter in that same capacity was terrible. I guess Marvel didn't see the bad reviews coming since they hired Buck to lead the Inhumans tv show as well.

[ToTheNines]

Is he the one who started the whole Deb being in love with Dexter thing?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Considering critics have only seen half the show, I'm skeptical of reviews.

After all, Luke Cage's first half was FANTASTIC... the second half sucked harder than a vacuum cleaner factory.

[NinjaPug]

Is he the one who started the whole Deb being in love with Dexter thing?

Yeah he took over after Season 5 and stayed until the end

[ToTheNines]

Random thoughts on episode 1:

Pretty slow.

The flashback effect they keep doing is pretty cheesy and annoying.

Master Splinter!

Episode 2:

Very interesting development with The Hand vs Kun Lun. Wow.

I love Colleen. Which worries me because I had a big crush on Misty at the beginning of LC, and she turned out to be nothing but a nagging plot obstacle.

I'm calling Joy not surviving the season.

Great ending!

Definitely starting slower than these other shows do, and it's not yet the martial arts showcase I'm hoping for, but the critics were unreservedly hard on it.

[Autbot_Benz]

I am gonna watch Iron Fist later. I am in the middle of another show that I want to finish. TBH Iron Fist doesn't interest me that much.

[TurtleTitan97]

Currently on the ep.4. It starts off slow, but I agree with ToTheNines, the critics are being too hard on the show, it's pretty decent so far.

[ProphetofGanja]

Considering critics have only seen half the show, I'm skeptical of reviews.

After all, Luke Cage's first half was FANTASTIC... the second half sucked harder than a vacuum cleaner factory.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who thought it kinda lost steam. Maybe Iron Fist will do the reverse? I'll be able to start the series if I ever get off work today.

[AT-Man]

Overall more good than bad, but easily the weakest of all Marvel Netflix series. Danny isn't as good a protagonist as the others were. Almost all side characters were better, especially Ward. The Rand company plot was the most interesting aspect of the whole show. Seems to me they just didn't have enough budget to make fight scenes better / have more of them. Could have been 8-10 episodes max.

[Cure]

It's alright. The best thing I can say about it is that at least it isn't as bad as Jessica Jones.

[ProphetofGanja]

It's alright. The best thing I can say about it is that at least it isn't as bad as Jessica Jones.

How do you think it ranks compared to Luke Cage?

[Cure]

It's below Luke Cage to me; Daredevil being the tops.

[MikeandRaph87]

How did Madame Gao take over The Hand? Sure, Gobu is dead again and for good. Though she doesn't appear to be involved in martial arts only a drug lord.

[NinjaPug]

I'm digging this through the first two episodes. I don't understand why the critics were so negative about this but had nothing but praise for Luke Cage.

[AT-Man]

I'm digging this through the first two episodes. I don't understand why the critics were so negative about this but had nothing but praise for Luke Cage.

Sheer, unapologetic bigotry.

[ToTheNines]

Ok, definitely my least favorite Marvel/Netflix deal so far. To quickly compare/contrast to the others:

The fights have NOTHING on Daredevil, but thankfully it doesn't lose focus and give subplots to horrible supporting characters like Karen or Foggy.

Doesn't have the pathos of JJ, or the great villain. But the action is way better, and again no godawful supporting cast.

Doesn't have the style of Luke Cage, totally forgettable soundtrack and score. But at least it didn't fall to pieces after the real villain(s) were revealed. Davos didn't proclaim "N*gga, I am yo brotha!" Lol.

Oh, but episode 6 (directed by The RZA) will be a favorite among TMNT fans. You'll want Finn Jones to play the next Leonardo. More ramblings from me as more people get caught up.

[blindturtle02]

It's not my favorite Marvel/Netflix series, but I'm seven episodes in and still enjoying it. I plan on finishing it up today, but may possibly have to wait until tomorrow evening to watch the last two episodes or so. I'm really digging the Iron Fist character as well as The Hand, and am pumped for The Defenders. That's all I got for now.

[MikeandRaph87]

Daredevil is the best by a longshot! Iron Fist second. I got bored from the start with Luke Cage. Forgot to finish it. Jessica Jones made me creeped out and couldn't get through it putting it in last place. Defenders will be interesting, but bring me Daredevil season 3 and DVD releases.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, something is going on with Marvel Television's home releases. Agents of SHIELD season 3 and Agent Carter season 2 are almost half a year overdue, and Jessica Jones should be out by now too.

Curiously, they're all available outside of the US. Unfortunately they're wicked expensive and have ugly emblems on the spines, so they'd look weird on my MCU shelf. So I'm holding out.

[ToTheNines]

Me after finishing the final episode:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/46/8a/43/468a436c7dcae5af02173385cddd9843.gif

[MikeandRaph87]

Yeah, something is going on with Marvel Television's home releases. Agents of SHIELD season 3 and Agent Carter season 2 are almost half a year overdue, and Jessica Jones should be out by now too.

Curiously, they're all available outside of the US. Unfortunately they're wicked expensive and have ugly emblems on the spines, so they'd look weird on my MCU shelf. So I'm holding out.

I am holding out too. I wanted a DVD,but just the Blu-Ray is out there. I found only about five copies around early December at Wal-Mart for $40. With 13 episodes, its $3.25 USD per episode. I am tempted to go an alternate route. Region 4s or an all region are out there, as in DVD format? There has to be a licensing issue. You wouldn't know what would the reasoning would you?

About to start episode 6,TMNT reference,huh?:)

Agreed on the choreographed fights not being to the level of Daredevil and this is more martial arts. I had expectation in that. The brief fight in the elevator was great though!

[Andrew NDB]

7 episodes in. I like Iron Fist better than Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.

[ToTheNines]

7 episodes in. I like Iron Fist better than Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.

6 was the highlight. Unfortunately episode 8 is where they started purposefully dragging their feet, so as to fulfill their 13 episode quota.

[MikeandRaph87]

The one thing that bothers me was when Ward pushed Iron Fist through a window and wakes up in the office and is okay with it. He does immediately realize the despite to ride of him to maintain control of the company. Was it a thought, not to give himself a way he embraced the older Meachum?

[Cure]

Yeah, I don't get the complaints about the fights. They are miles above Jessica Jones.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, I don't get the complaints about the fights. They are miles above Jessica Jones.

That they are. But Jessica is not a martial artist, Danny is supposed to be.

If you ask me, the main difference between the fights in Daredevil vs Iron fist is...

the fact that DD wears a mask, so it's way easier to sub in the stunt man for Charlie Cox. Another reason they need to ditch the Nolanisms and just bust out the green and yellow pajamas. I thought the dude in the 1940's footage looked good enough.

[MikeandRaph87]

So in the comics Ward is the much younger brother of Harold and not the son. The way it was presented I thought Joy was Iron Fist' girlfriend in the comics. Wing is. Is Joy supposed to be made news and not Iron Fist romantic interest? Just trying to connect comic from T.V.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Finally getting started, finishing up Episode 1.

Enjoying it so far, although comparisons to Arrow Season 1 and Batman Begins are inescapable.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

"WHERE DID YOU GO?"

The handprint scene was awesome. :tcool:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Dammit, Danny, don't tell the doctor about an other-dimensional city and magical warriors! :tlol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Aw yeah. PUNCH that door!

[Cure]

Chill, yo, no one cares for a running commentary. Do it in one post or don't do it at all.

[ToTheNines]

Dammit, Danny, don't tell the doctor about an other-dimensional city and magical warriors! :tlol:

Dammit Danny!

http://www.aveleyman.com/Gallery/ActorsP/13502-19052.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Up to the end of 11. Whoa. Major Winter Soldier-level revelations. And double whoa with Beacham.

And that Ward actor is impossibly entertaining to watch. Fantastic. Doesn't he kind of seem like Keanu Reeves mixed with young Al Pacino... by way of Justin Long?

[Cure]

Yeah, Ward is cool. It may not be the best show of the four overall, but I think it has the best and most interesting supporting cast.

[MikeandRaph87]

No costume? Not even Daredevil move,putting it on to end the season? Surprising move,making a plain clothes Iron Fist.

Also,am I the only one who thought Danny and Joy and Coleen and Bakuto would have made for better couples?:trazz:

It also seems they every single character is bad in one way or another aside from plain clothes Iron Fist. Edit:Well, aside from him the nurse played by Dawson is completely clean.

[Andrew NDB]

They've said he won't even get the costume until somewhere near/at the end of Defenders.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So I'm still not very far in, but I've kept up on all the reviews. So far I like Finn Jones' portrayal of Danny, but that could change.

What IS a HUGE issue for me is that they never show K'un-L'un or Shou-Lao the Undying.

I think the critical issue facing Iron Fist is that it has nothing new to show or say, no real reason to exist other than "fourth member of the Defenders."

Daredevil showed us an R-rated vigilante with deep religious roots and beliefs, struggling with his faith and his bloody version of justice. This was new.

Jessica Jones showed us an independent female hero and a whole host of female issues, ranging from abortion and choice, to rape and PTSD. This was new.

Luke Cage showed us a black man on the streets dealing with his environment, racial tensions, police brutality, and how the public views a "scary black man." This was new (and incredibly needed in light of American race issues on the rise).

Iron Fist COULD have shown us full-out balls-to-the-wall mysticism with magical cities, dragons, and chi powers. Instead... familiar retelling of Batman Begins and Arrow story tropes. Iron Fist COULD have mattered, with an examination of Eastern philosophy and religion, and with some crazy fun story elements some would consider "too out there." Instead they played it safe... and this is what happens.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation from examining others' critiques and reviews. I don't think any of this opinion will change no matter how enjoyable or disenjoyable the show will be to me as I continue watching it. At the end of the day, Marvel should have kept pushing the envelope but they didn't.

[Andrew NDB]

Iron Fist COULD have shown us full-out balls-to-the-wall mysticism with magical cities, dragons, and chi powers.

Sounds like all of that stuff will be in season 2.

[ToTheNines]

I don't think they have the budget for it.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't think they have the budget for it.

Yeah, I wonder how they'd pull it off. Their trip to "China" this season was... questionable.

[ProphetofGanja]

Iron Fist's comic costume really is kinda ridiculous tho. For the Netflix shows he should just get the bandana/mask thing, that would probably be enough

[Andrew NDB]

Iron Fist's comic costume really is kinda ridiculous tho. For the Netflix shows he should just get the bandana/mask thing, that would probably be enough

Yeah, definitely not the weird collar thing I see often.

Something like this would work:

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11118/111187046/5194964-image.png

Or this:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn180/Neoproks/Orson_Randall___xshaunx_by_Lewis_Paul.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

There is no logical or believable reason that Danny Rand could be so incredibly and consistently naive... with EVERYONE.

He wasn't alone for over a decade, he was in a different culture. He shouldn't be acting like a 15-yr-old (equal parts naive and arrogant); he should be acting like he grew up in a different culture.

I hate to say it, but between this problem and the lack of anything overtly mystic (K'un-L'un and the dragon), I think this series is poorly written. Hopefully the rest of it will improve my opinion, but...

:tconfuse:

[ProphetofGanja]

There is no logical or believable reason that Danny Rand could be so incredibly and consistently naive... with EVERYONE.

He wasn't alone for over a decade, he was in a different culture. He shouldn't be acting like a 15-yr-old (equal parts naive and arrogant); he should be acting like he grew up in a different culture.

I hate to say it, but between this problem and the lack of anything overtly mystic (K'un-L'un and the dragon), I think this series is poorly written. Hopefully the rest of it will improve my opinion, but...

:tconfuse:

Oh no, it's definitely very, very poorly written. I'm on Ep. 8 now. When it picks up speed and gets going it can get pretty good, but there are these awful lulls where the story slows down or the plot just takes an inconceivable left turn. The actors are doing pretty damn good jobs with what they've been given, but they weren't given much. This show did not need 13 episodes, or it could have used some serious rewrites if they were intent on doing 13 like the other series.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh no, it's definitely very, very poorly written. I'm on Ep. 8 now. When it picks up speed and gets going it can get pretty good, but there are these awful lulls where the story slows down or the plot just takes an inconceivable left turn. The actors are doing pretty damn good jobs with what they've been given, but they weren't given much. This show did not need 13 episodes, or it could have used some serious rewrites if they were intent on doing 13 like the other series.

That hatchet hallway fight, though. :tcool:

[ProphetofGanja]

That hatchet hallway fight, though. :tcool:

oh yeah, that shi was tight

reminded me of that scene in Kung Fu Hustle [2004]

[ToTheNines]

I think they especially bungled Claire Temple. Her dialogue was atrocious. Poor Rosario.

Iron Fist's comic costume really is kinda ridiculous tho. For the Netflix shows he should just get the bandana/mask thing, that would probably be enough

He at least needs the mask. If only to let the stunt men jump in more often.

So I'm still not very far in, but I've kept up on all the reviews. So far I like Finn Jones' portrayal of Danny, but that could change.

What IS a HUGE issue for me is that they never show K'un-L'un or Shou-Lao the Undying.

I think the critical issue facing Iron Fist is that it has nothing new to show or say, no real reason to exist other than "fourth member of the Defenders."

Daredevil showed us an R-rated vigilante with deep religious roots and beliefs, struggling with his faith and his bloody version of justice. This was new.

Jessica Jones showed us an independent female hero and a whole host of female issues, ranging from abortion and choice, to rape and PTSD. This was new.

Luke Cage showed us a black man on the streets dealing with his environment, racial tensions, police brutality, and how the public views a "scary black man." This was new (and incredibly needed in light of American race issues on the rise).

Iron Fist COULD have shown us full-out balls-to-the-wall mysticism with magical cities, dragons, and chi powers. Instead... familiar retelling of Batman Begins and Arrow story tropes. Iron Fist COULD have mattered, with an examination of Eastern philosophy and religion, and with some crazy fun story elements some would consider "too out there." Instead they played it safe... and this is what happens.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation from examining others' critiques and reviews. I don't think any of this opinion will change no matter how enjoyable or disenjoyable the show will be to me as I continue watching it. At the end of the day, Marvel should have kept pushing the envelope but they didn't.

This is a good assessment.

[Andrew NDB]

I think they especially bungled Claire Temple. Her dialogue was atrocious. Poor Rosario.

There was no way she would advocate taking that dying heroin dude to the hospital with the Hand hot on his heels. Not after Daredevil season 2. Like, there is no way she can sit there and say that's a good idea. But then she'd shift gears and talk about how horrible it was what the Hand did at the hospital... very strange.

Apart from that, I dug Claire in this. She felt like she was in it just as much as Daredevil season 1, if not moreso.

[ProphetofGanja]

Well, I just finished the last two episodes. That was... disappointing. The whole series. There were a lot of parts where the writing was so bad, it just sounded so off. I don't know how many times I thought to myself "that is not a a real person would respond in that situation".

[Autbot_Benz]

Season 2 is coming

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/iron-fist-renewed-season-2-netflix-1202503174/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Season 2 is coming

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/iron-fist-renewed-season-2-netflix-1202503174/

Good. Now give us the freaking dragon and origin story!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Whoa... this is AWESOME.

https://screenrant.com/iron-fist-alice-eve-character-photos/

Typhoid Mary!!!

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Autbot_Benz]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

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Freaking love me some Ward Meachum. :tgrin:

Excited for Typhoid Mary.

But they'd better freaking give us the damn dragon this time.

[MikeandRaph87]

Freaking love me some Ward Meachum. :tgrin:

Excited for Typhoid Mary.

But they'd better freaking give us the damn dragon this time.

I thought he was gling to forgo it in favor of Daredevil's costume?

Did anyone else find Joy Meechum's 180 turn between her second to last scene and last scene not believeable for the presentation of her character. There was absolutely nothing to imply a heel turn.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I thought he was gling to forgo it in favor of Daredevil's costume?

Did anyone else find Joy Meechum's 180 turn between her second to last scene and last scene not believeable for the presentation of her character. There was absolutely nothing to imply a heel turn.

I forgive the weirdness of Joy Meachum that I might better enjoy the sheer awesomeness of Ward Meachum. Favorite character from the show.

[Andrew NDB]

All of the Meachums were fantastic to watch.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

All of the Meachums were fantastic to watch.

The last few seconds of her putting her head together with Davos was out of the blue, but yeah... I never agreed with any of the Meachum complaints.

Don't order vanilla.

[MikeandRaph87]

Ward was definitely layered and liberties taken from his comic counterpart and for the better. I expected him to take the lead villain's place by season's end. Yet it was not the case. Joy may go from bitter foe out for misguided revenge in the comics and later becomes Iron Fist's love interest, but the last scene just seem to cater to how the comics were with nothing to make any sense within the show for her to react that way. I may not be a good judge though as I was expecting Collen Wing and Bakatu to be a couple and Joy and Danny to be a couple. Instead Collen tried to kill Bakatu.:lol::P

[Autbot_Benz]

IRON FIST CANCELLED BY NETFLIX

https://io9.gizmodo.com/holy-cow-iro...ow_io9_twitter

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

IRON FIST CANCELLED BY NETFLIX

https://io9.gizmodo.com/holy-cow-iro...ow_io9_twitter

The link isn't working for me.

Can't say I'm surprised. Not enough dragon or chi. Lame.

Can we carry the Meachums over to Jessica Jones, though? Love me some Ward Meachum! :tgrin:

[Autbot_Benz]

The link isn't working for me.

Can't say I'm surprised. Not enough dragon or chi. Lame.

Can we carry the Meachums over to Jessica Jones, though? Love me some Ward Meachum! :tgrin:

Just do Daughters of the Dragon with Colleen and Misty or throw Danny on Luke Cage for Heroes for Hire

[TigerClaw]

Here's a working link from the source.
https://deadline.com/2018/10/marvel-iron-fist-canceled-netflix-daredevil-disney-finn-jones-jessica-henwick-1202482048/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Just do Daughters of the Dragon with Colleen and Misty or throw Danny on Luke Cage for Heroes for Hire

Those would both be good.

But seriously, what was the point of doing an Iron Fist show if Netflix never intended to do the dragon, much of the chi, or really, ANYTHING?

I don't like Marvel comics, except for the Iron Fist. Read a ton of those, great stuff... so why the lackluster boring-ass show? :teek::trolleye:

Different link: https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/12/marvels-iron-fist-canceled/

[TigerClaw]

With that show being canceled. Marvel will just reboot it for its streaming service on Disney.

[MikeandRaph87]

I hate watched the first season. It was like everyone wanted to be in charge of everyone else, either in charge of a company or in charge of a ninja clan trying to be charge of the company. Too much. Meachums were done differently in a good way, but the 180 between Joy second to last and last scene didnt make sense for the character. Ah, well. Iron Fist should fold into Luke Cage anyway. What were ratings for season 2? It was shorter, but had Daredevil influence.

[Andrew NDB]

Wow, that's really sh***y. And leave things with that cliffhanger? I'm sure (maybe?) we'll see more Danny and Colleen in other shows eventually in small parts... but this is probably goodbye forever to the Meachums. Probably the last we'll see of Typhoid Mary, too, and she just came up. In fact, it seemed like one of the main driving plot points of season 2 was building her up for season 3.

Very upsetting.

With that show being canceled. Marvel will just reboot it for its streaming service on Disney.

No, they won't.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow, that's really sh***y. And leave things with that cliffhanger? I'm sure (maybe?) we'll see more Danny and Colleen in other shows eventually in small parts... but this is probably goodbye forever to the Meachums. Probably the last we'll see of Typhoid Mary, too, and she just came up. In fact, it seemed like one of the main driving plot points of season 2 was building her up for season 3.

Very upsetting.



No, they won't.

If Netflix/Marvel really wanted, they could swing Typhoid Mary over to one of the other shows.

It's not like Jessica or Luke have a huge roster of villains, anyway. Especially Jessica.

[MikeandRaph87]

Typhoid Mary is a Daredevil villain anyway. Of course the breakout character in Daredevil, The Kingpin is a Spider-Man villain himself. Villains for the most part are workable into the wider universe. The Meachum siblings (opposed to uncle/niece) was the one interesting aspect of Iron Fist. Unfortunately, it appears their story is told.:trazz:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still haven't watched Season 2. The joys of the Ward siblings (heh) hasn't been enough to convince me to put up with the rest of the show. Even less so now, knowing it was "meh" enough to ax the show going forward.

[Andrew NDB]

It's not like Jessica or Luke have a huge roster of villains, anyway. Especially Jessica.

Yeah, especially her. They didn't even bother to give her a villain in season 2.

Might be fun to see Jessica run up against Mary, come to think of it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yeah, especially her. They didn't even bother to give her a villain in season 2.

Might be fun to see Jessica run up against Mary, come to think of it.

A lot of us were expecting Typhoid Mary to be the big bad of Season 2... done right, she could have been a decent follow-up to Kilgrave.

But no, we got her mom (kinda), that scientist doctor (kinda), and... I dunno, Trish? Dumb.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/ma...y-rand-a164101

Danny will appear in the other shows

[Andrew NDB]

Pretty sad that he never even got his costume. They had 3 chances to do so (season 1, Defenders, season 2) and it was nowhere in sight.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Pretty sad that he never even got his costume. They had 3 chances to do so (season 1, Defenders, season 2) and it was nowhere in sight.

Yeah, pretty much everything about the Iron Fist show (both seasons and the Defenders) was just a complete and total mess of dropping the balls.