Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 5: Riddle of the Ancient Aeons [Archive]

Bitsy83

01-10-2016, 09:15 AM

So...I love being an iTunes subscriber!!!

Anyway, that was pretty intense and I am loving Fugitoid more and more! I'm gonna put the next bit in Spoilers since not everyone has seen it yet.

I sort of figured the demon bats were the Aeons since we didn't get much info on HOW they ran away from the planet, but I do admit that I had forgotten the technology was never allowed on that planet before and that's what caused the disruption of the world. I am really loving the designs of the aliens and worlds, but I feel that the writing isn't as strong as the visual stuff. Maybe I'm just too spoiled on shows like Gravity Falls and Steven Universe that I'm expecting all animated shows to be stellar writing.

Oh Leo...you miss Splinter so much....:cry:

Did they really explain why the world was making them rage? I guess they did with the soul stone, but that seemed kinda plot convenient. I did like the interaction between Raph and Leo with the hug, but again a bit rushed. Though they did finally tackle what a lot of fans have speculated: That Raph always felt that Leo was more loved that him with Splinter.

Ok....Fugitoid can nuke people. That's...interesting.

And I'm surprised the Triceratons got the first fragment. Really thought it'd be the Turtles first, then the Triceratons, and then they'd meet up in the middle. I still think that arena of carnage is going to be where they find the third piece and it'll be the prize for the champion sort of deal.

And...did we just see a foreshadowing of Phoenix April? You know, where she uses the piece of the soul stone combined with her powers to become corrupted and possibly mad with power? I was sort of expecting that to happen with her emotional turmoil that the Kraang put her through, what with her dad and mom and powers and...well, everything. I wonder if that'll be a segueway (sp?) into the fifth season, but that wouldn't make much sense with the mystical stuff.

Well, can't wait to discuss this with you guys! It's good to be back!!!

TigerClaw

01-10-2016, 09:53 AM

Here we go!

GoldMutant

01-10-2016, 10:04 AM

"It's been a week since something exciting" -Casey

Damn you Casey, seriously. :roll:

(Presses trap for no reason) Do they really need to dumb him down this badly? Come on, we already had the entirety of Wyrm's episode with that, do we really need to drive home the point with it all the time in the space arc?

ObiWanFan4life

01-10-2016, 10:06 AM

Did Raph do a Three stooges move?

cookie jar

01-10-2016, 10:11 AM

Aw Leo misses Splinter. And Mikey oh no...

ObiWanFan4life

01-10-2016, 10:12 AM

Total Recall reference?

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 10:13 AM

OMG!!!! Noooooo!!!!! poor Mikey. :o

Phew he's fine.

That hug!!!!!, that hug!!!! That hug!!!!!

Yes!!!!!! Mikey didn't press the button.

cookie jar

01-10-2016, 10:20 AM

Casey :roll:

TigerClaw

01-10-2016, 10:31 AM

It was a good episode.

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 10:32 AM

OMG!!! I loved this episode. It has to be my favourite so far this season. :D

It was so intense.

I noticed the Mr Spock hand gesture reference.

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 10:35 AM

And...did we just see a foreshadowing of Phoenix April? You know, where she uses the piece of the soul stone combined with her powers to become corrupted and possibly mad with power? I was sort of expecting that to happen with her emotional turmoil that the Kraang put her through, what with her dad and mom and powers and...well, everything. I wonder if that'll be a segueway (sp?) into the fifth season, but that wouldn't make much sense with the mystical stuff. [/SPOILER]

Heh, I was already thinking about a Back to the Sewers homage myself...

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cookie jar

01-10-2016, 10:37 AM

I like this episode.

Ninturtle

01-10-2016, 10:39 AM

This episode was alright, I wasn't a huge fan of the turtles conflict as it kinda felt akward at times. But I really liked seeing the Triceratons again and seeing Mozar rage, So I liked it more than most episodes this season. I'm not really looking foward to next weeks episode as it's just filker in between story which gets really annoying.

snake

01-10-2016, 10:39 AM

God I hope we see demon april or corupted april in this. Would be pretty cool.

pannoni1

01-10-2016, 10:42 AM

A nicely done episode with a great ending! Some of the plot reminded me a bit of the Eye of Zarnath arc from the OT, but it was a good way to pick up after a break. Also, seeing Splinter in a dream at the start of the episode is a good way to show how he might return later on.

Show Grade: 8/10

GoldMutant

01-10-2016, 10:44 AM

In terms of how well it's good, I'd say it ranges from being the best of the space arc or the second best, right behind The Outlaw Armaggon! I loved the attention to detail with the Aeons at the end, hooray for a Vulcan reference and a slinky gag with the Fugitoid. :lol: Also, any episode in regards to Triceraton focus is a plus in my book. I did have problems though.

The main gripe for this episode is the increase of aggression for the heroes; granted it's explained by April according the dialogue and at the end, but it got old fast. It doesn't help it happened for half of the episode and the dialogue coming down to mostly insults an elementary student bully would state. Granted, the callback to The Invasion with Leo hugging Raph was a welcome sight in addition to the city virtual reality for a few brief seconds.

If it wasn't obvious though from earlier, why the hell did Casey have to act like a kid seeking excitement? :ohwell: It really feels that Casey is trying to be way too optimistic based on the writing that it's extremely frustrating to contend with. Last time the excitement occurred, he almost got his friends hurt with Wyrm; even with the reset, I have to ask what is it going to take for Casey to stop acting like a child and mature up? As much as I don't like April too much in this series, at least she's serious when the time calls for it, so why can't Casey?

Overall though, it was a relatively up average episode and is among the best of the season for sure at this current time. If they fleshed out the planet a little more and maybe added in a little more elaboration on a few parts, this easily is the best episode thus far. However, with some concepts not well fleshed out to the fullest, it's right behind The Outlaw Armaggon! as my favorite episode, but barely.

I'd say it's at least a 7 or 6.5 out of 10, well executed but in some aspects could have been much better.

ToTheNines

01-10-2016, 10:45 AM

Who wrote this one? It was funny and all, but the end felt like a crappy video game with all boring exposition. And so rushed in the final scene!

Really loved Fugitoid again. His whole bit threatening to spank everyone had me laughing out loud.

snake

01-10-2016, 10:47 AM

I'd probably put this episode right before Armaggon and Wyrm. It was good, but I wasn't too amazed.

ToTheNines

01-10-2016, 10:58 AM

I just checked and Brandon Auman was the writer. Dude is so hit-or-miss.

The Happy One

01-10-2016, 11:02 AM

That episode was pretty good and probably the best out of all that we had so far.
I think, though, out of everything in this episode April was my favorite. I'm really loving her character these days and she's gaining a lot more- for a lack of better word- personality. I just really enjoyed watching her this episode.

And Casey? I just learned to live with it. :ohwell: He could be better....they just need to take it down a few ten or twelve notches on the who 'I'm dumb' trope.

Man, poor Leo:( Misses his Daddy...
But the mini fight/hug between him and Raph was nice to see- though I think it happened a bit too fast. I liked that the planet brought out they're deeper thoughts- things they hardly ever voice. That was a great touch.

And Mikey...darn, for a minute I thought he was a goner! But good for the kid to stick up for himself, even if it was just the rage talking.

Hah, I did get a crack out of Don and Casey's little 'whose gap is bigger' argument:D I was trying not to laugh but..hey, it was a little funny...:lol:

And Don...man, he was thrown around a lot in this ep:tlol:
And, as usual, Fugitoid was such a treat!

Also really interested in that stone April took with her...Hmm...
Overall, great episode- a few bugs here and there- but nonetheless one of the best!

OrangeNinja1987

01-10-2016, 11:09 AM

I missed the beginning of the episode, up until Mikey's helmet cracks open. What happens before then?

Anyway, for what I saw I thought it was okay. I don't remember laughing or finding much interesting. The two events that stood out were Leo hugging Raph and Fugitoid completely killing someone.
Seriously, who else is shocked that having a hero completely obliterate someone, and then turning it into a joke, got past the radar? Even if it was a nameless character (I think), that's still...just...wow. Most deaths so far in this series have been very serious and are usually the villains fault.
It's not a big deal, but this episode offered me so little to get excited about.
Also the turtles fighting against the demons reminded me of their very first fight in the series, when they kept getting into each other's way and couldn't work as a team. Have their abilities degraded that much?
Also, why does April only shoot things? She is a kunoichi, isn't she?
I do like the idea of a planet twisting their minds, but it was so glossed over and rushed.
5.5/10

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 11:17 AM

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 11:23 AM

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-riddle-of-the-ancient-aeons-review

IGN Review is up 8.0

The Happy One

01-10-2016, 11:24 AM

Yeah, dude, definitely watch the beginning and you'll understand it a bit better.

As for April using blasters and not her kunoichi skills...well we must remember that she is basically at only but level 2 of all things ninjutsu so...
I mean, she's not a bad fighter but she ain't an A+ fighter either so it's probably best to either rely on her developing powers or a blaster...Good observation, though.

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 11:26 AM

God I hope we see demon april or corupted april in this. Would be pretty cool.

It was interesting that April (along with Fugitoid) were the only two members of the team seemingly uncorrupted by the planet's effect. So that added extra weight at the end when Donny said "anyone can be corrupted by power" as April stares wistfully into the glowing Soul Star fragment.

A nicely done episode with a great ending! Some of the plot reminded me a bit of the Eye of Zarnath arc from the OT, but it was a good way to pick up after a break. Also, seeing Splinter in a dream at the start of the episode is a good way to show how he might return later on.

Show Grade: 8/10

Yeah, I was reminded of another moment from the OT 2nd Season. The bit where the Turtles turn on each other was very reminiscent of "Splinter No More" where they are under the influence of Shredder's device. And April has to call their attention to the fact they are being controlled.

Who wrote this one? It was funny and all, but the end felt like a crappy video game with all boring exposition. And so rushed in the final scene!

Really loved Fugitoid again. His whole bit threatening to spank everyone had me laughing out loud.

Brandon Auman.

TigerClaw

01-10-2016, 11:35 AM

Did everyone noticed when
The Fugitoid loses his arm when Mikey sets off a booby track, then in the next scene the Fugitoid had his arm back on?
What's up with that?

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 11:41 AM

Did everyone noticed when
The Fugitoid loses his arm when Mikey sets off a booby track, then in the next scene the Fugitoid had his arm back on?
What's up with that?

It wasn't Mikey who set the booby trap off, it was Casey.

I have to watch it again but I expect Fugitoid just popped it back in off screen.

IndigoErth

01-10-2016, 11:42 AM

And the "planet of angry feels" doesn't affect the humans why exactly? :lol:

Maybe it affected Casey, but he's kind of like that normally anyhow... though I guess he is the new Mikey with touching stuff. But good on him for just accepting responsibility for doing it and not throwing an attitude.

The monsters turning into the aliens was pretty predictable early on, but not in a bad way. More the way that gets the anticipation going and ending with an "I knew it!"

Oh god, but the Leo-Raph hug... Dammit Nick and your ability to make a person tear up a touch over a half hour action-oriented cartoon. You guys are good. Raph saying what he did though... just that one line alone felt like a jump in progress between characters with the whole conflict between him and Leo and Leo's closeness with Splinter.

Did everyone noticed when
The Fugitoid loses his arm when Mikey sets off a booby track, then in the next scene the Fugitoid had his arm back on?
What's up with that?
Didn't catch that. Enough going on after it I forgot about that piece. But it was cut off with a saw, so...cartoon magic I guess?

Although the way it was done made me laugh. "What's this do?" *arm taken off* "It does that."

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 11:44 AM

Oh god, but the Leo-Raph hug... Dammit Nick and your ability to make a person tear up a touch over a half hour action-oriented cartoon. You guys are good. Raph saying what he did though... just that one line alone felt like a jump in progress between characters with the whole conflict between him and Leo and Leo's closeness with Splinter.

Oh, yeah, that was such a nice moment. Good tonal callback to the last episode of Season 2 when Mikey jumps to embrace Raph who's furious over losing Splinter.

evan2000

01-10-2016, 11:45 AM

Did everyone noticed when
The Fugitoid loses his arm when Mikey sets off a booby track, then in the next scene the Fugitoid had his arm back on?
What's up with that?

I guess it's a usual gag that a robot/cyborg could easily lose its arm an reattach just as easily, much like C-3PO in numerous occasions.

But yeah they could at least show someone help him reattach his arm or something. Maybe it got cut to save time :-?

BTW, you don't have to use a spoiler tag anymore, the episode has aired.

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 11:47 AM

And the "planet of angry feels" doesn't affect the humans why exactly? :lol:

Maybe it affected Casey, but he's kind of like that normally anyhow... though I guess he is the new Mikey with touching stuff. But good on him for just accepting responsibility for doing it and not throwing an attitude.

The monsters turning into the aliens was pretty predictable early on, but not in a bad way. More the way that gets the anticipation going and ending with an "I knew it!"

Oh god, but the Leo-Raph hug... Dammit Nick and your ability to make a person tear up a touch over a half hour action-oriented cartoon. You guys are good. Raph saying what he did though... just that one line alone felt like a jump in progress between characters with the whole conflict between him and Leo and Leo's closeness with Splinter.

It did affect Casey. I guess it didn't affect April because she's half human half Kraang with psychic abilities.

I loved the hug and Leo saying 'I love you Raph' was adorable.

IndigoErth

01-10-2016, 11:51 AM

I guess it didn't affect April because she's half human half Kraang with psychic abilities.
Possible.

Or, was thinking while watching, for women it simply feels like "the planet of PMS" and, well, nothing new there so she handles it. :tlol:

Although that place would be pretty convenient to point out at a later date. "Remember that planet?? I feel like that, so leave me alone!" :lol:

The Happy One

01-10-2016, 12:00 PM

Possible.

Or, was thinking while watching, for women it simply feels like "the planet of PMS" and, well, nothing new there so she handles it. :tlol:

Although that place would be pretty convenient to point out at a later date. "Remember that planet?? I feel like that, so leave me alone!" :lol:

:lol:Never thought if it that way!

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 12:56 PM

ranger_scout

01-10-2016, 01:14 PM

Today's episode was solid. I really haven't enjoyed the plots for season four, but I liked this one. I wonder if April might get too overprotective and obsessed with the power of that crystal the good aliens gave her. That line Donnie said at the end could be foreshadowing that.

Foombamaroom

01-10-2016, 01:37 PM

:/
Still kinda disappointed with this season.
Yes, this episode was the best, and it's still early on, but I was hoping for a series of arcs that were connected, not just 'planet of the week'. They keep taking a step back from the emotional moments. That Raph/Leo scene should've been bigger than what it was.

Best thing about this episode is when Fugitoid was gonna pimp slap someone. Jesus, that had me rolling.

IndigoErth

01-10-2016, 01:38 PM

matteso586

01-10-2016, 01:53 PM

1) Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that April's psychic powers is what's protecting her from the planet's corruption. And I understand why Fugitoid is not affected

2) Isn't it weird that the Triceratons somehow know where the fragments are?

3) It seems that Bishop's design comes with the tuxedo's too. Just look at the flashback.

4) Let's not assume the worst, and assume that the thing April was given will get the gang out of a dire situation later. Or it would help her with the whole missing mother thing.

TigerClaw

01-10-2016, 02:04 PM

IGN's review is up, and they gave this episode an 8.0
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-riddle-of-the-ancient-aeons-review

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 02:06 PM

IGN's review is up, and they gave this episode an 8.0
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-riddle-of-the-ancient-aeons-review

Already posted it on page 2.

GoldMutant

01-10-2016, 02:08 PM

All we need now is another poll. :)

I'm still not understanding why the Turtles have been horrible in combat outside writing for plot plots. I can understand if the planet's atmosphere affecting their minds and focus, but how do they struggle this poorly? It's beyond a repetitious point in the series, they should have grown in combat by now, not be reduced in skill when time calls for it. :roll:

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 02:09 PM

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 03:25 PM

Just re watched it and you do see Fugitoid putting his arm back on.

TurtleTitan97

01-10-2016, 03:27 PM

Pretty great episode. I wonder if Donnie's last comment and April looking at that fragment of the Soul Star is gonna serve as some sort of foreshadowing?

TLP

01-10-2016, 03:47 PM

Somehow I knew they wouldn't get the black hole generator piece in time. *laughs maniacally*

ALL HOPE IS LOST, TURTLES! You lose AGAIN!

https://49.media.tumblr.com/99323d276665d9517ff7d3e5b16cd715/tumblr_nv0dv2wxDw1u3ut2ko1_400.gif

Yeah I know there's two more pieces left but damn, black holes are cool.

kelligrafie

01-10-2016, 04:08 PM

This episode was ok for me. Didn't overly love it but didn't dislike it either.

But I enjoyed how some of the arguments brought up old insecurities and grudges like jealousy, bullying and favouritism.

The gap tooth one was a bit silly but Raph picking on Mikey, Leo pointing out Casey's lack of thought/sensitivity, Raph being jealous of Leo for being a daddy's boy, Leo accusing Raph of being jealous, I felt like we've dug a bit deeper into the guys.

The Leo vs Raph thing gets played out a lot but usually Raphael is all about 'why does he get to be leader', he's never really outwardly said it's because he feels Leo is the favourite child. That's a pretty strong accusation, regardless of the planets influence on their moods.

I thought the hug thing was a bit much though. Something to appease all the nutty shippers. Felt awkward.

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 04:28 PM

This is one of those episodes you have to re watch a few times to understand whats happening.

There was Foreshadowing when Mozar said to his soldiers that he would throw them into the Tri Arena.

TigerClaw

01-10-2016, 04:32 PM

Yeah since we'll see an episode of the Turtles in that arena pretty soon.

Aaronardo

01-10-2016, 04:33 PM

Excuse me but... am I the only one who thinks that the "intensity" of this episode is getting played up a bit much? I mean, yeesh, I can see where they were trying to go with this idea, and they kept bringing up great possibilities for character interactions (such as Leo and Raph, Raph and Mikey, or Donnie and Casey). The small interactions we did get were great and all, but I feel like this episode would've been hella better had they expanded upon these ideas more.

Do you realize how long I've waited for Mikey to go off on Raph the way he did in this episode? I thought that was going to make for a very emotional and powerful scene later in the episode, but we got nothing more. We got like 5 seconds of Mikey calling Raph out for all the torment he's caused him, and then... OOPS! Exposition! The story! (Which, by god, is not interesting at all. Gave up on it a few eps ago).

Raph going off on Leo? Um, YES! And when this interaction is actually happening, Raph says all the right words to Leo, it feels very genuine! For a whole 3 seconds. I mean, this should've happened earlier in the episode, so Raph and Leo could have a hard time talking to each other for most of the episode, and then have a powerful scene near the end where they make up. Had Brandon been on his usual game, he would've probably done something like that.

I mean, I see where they're trying to go with this episode, but all the interactions are so beyond rushed for them to have any sort of impact that the episode just falls flat on its face. (And the Leo/Raph hug was such an obvious ripoff of The Invasion, it might as well have punched me in the face. Not to mention that the interaction is, again, so rushed, that it comes clear out of nowhere. Had they done more with the idea, then the hug would've been heartwarming, but here, it just comes clean out of nowhere).

But hey, that's just me. Apparently a lot of people really enjoyed this episode, but this is just my two cents (as usual).

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 04:50 PM

Excuse me but... am I the only one who thinks that the "intensity" of this episode is getting played up a bit much? I mean, yeesh, I can see where they were trying to go with this idea, and they kept bringing up great possibilities for character interactions (such as Leo and Raph, Raph and Mikey, or Donnie and Casey). The small interactions we did get were great and all, but I feel like this episode would've been hella better had they expanded upon these ideas more.

Do you realize how long I've waited for Mikey to go off on Raph the way he did in this episode? I thought that was going to make for a very emotional and powerful scene later in the episode, but we got nothing more. We got like 5 seconds of Mikey calling Raph out for all the torment he's caused him, and then... OOPS! Exposition! The story! (Which, by god, is not interesting at all. Gave up on it a few eps ago).

I loved that Mikey stuck up for himself when Raph was picking on him but it was just the evil planet influence on him.

When Raph accidentally smashed Mikey's helmet you could see Raph was concerned for Mikey and I was hoping for a little bro moment between them, like a hug or an apology but sadly there wasn't.

I'm hoping we are going to have some more of Raph and Mikey interaction in the next episode, with the Turtles going into Mikey's mind, so we probably see some of Mikey's memories of Raph picking on Mikey and some brotherly moments between them when they were younger.

CyberCubed

01-10-2016, 04:57 PM

Cool visuals, but average episode.

victory_angel

01-10-2016, 05:24 PM

I guess that ending explains why Brandon Auman was so surprised when I asked him if we would have a Dark April plot months ago.

Aaronardo

01-10-2016, 05:33 PM

I guess that ending explains why Brandon Auman was so surprised when I asked him if we would have a Dark April plot months ago.

Let's just hope it's actually a f*cking plot this time, rather than written off as some filler episode, unlike... well, you know.

aliena

01-10-2016, 05:35 PM

I really liked this episode, but so far I've like all of them this season. I really thought for sure that this would be when Raph blamed someone for chipping his plastron, but maybe they are saving that for later.

Is this the actual first time that any Raph admitted to Leo that he was jealous of him because he felt Splinter loved him more? I never recall him saying it before, but I very likely could be wrong.

Why is it that they feel it's okay to kill off Triceratons so easily? I mean, that's the second one we saw die, and they have never killed off anyone before. Admittedly it was Fugitoid who did the killing.

April has grown on me a lot this season. She is finally acting like April and not some whiny brat.

I of course loved Leo telling Raph that he loved him. I think they were going to fight, but when their bodies met in the hug they snapped out of it. That's when Leo fought the anger back and said he loved him to snap Raph out of it. It did work like a charm. Is that the first time any of them actually said they loved the other out loud? Maybe Mikey has said it before to someone. Was way too short a scene though.

Vicky82

01-10-2016, 05:47 PM

I really liked this episode, but so far I've like all of them this season. I really thought for sure that this would be when Raph blamed someone for chipping his plastron, but maybe they are saving that for later.

I'm crossing my fingers that Raphs chipped plastron will get mentioned in the next episode.

Is this the actual first time that any Raph admitted to Leo that he was jealous of him because he felt Splinter loved him more? I never recall him saying it before, but I very likely could be wrong.

Yeah it is the first time.

I of course loved Leo telling Raph that he loved him. I think they were going to fight, but when their bodies met in the hug they snapped out of it. That's when Leo fought the anger back and said he loved him to snap Raph out of it. It did work like a charm. Is that the first time any of them actually said they loved the other out loud? Maybe Mikey has said it before to someone. Was way too short a scene though.

Yeah this is also the first time the Turtles have said "I love you"

Powder

01-10-2016, 06:43 PM

Fun, but nothing to write home about. The Aeons blew my mind, though. What a cool ass species. I hope we see them again.

picassotheninjaturtle

01-10-2016, 07:07 PM

Wait, didn't Mozar mention Zanramon, :o:ocorrect me if i'm wrong but isn't he the Triceraton emperor? Does this mean he's gonna show up later?

ToTheNines

01-10-2016, 07:10 PM

It was a different Z name, not sure if he was even talking about the emperor.

picassotheninjaturtle

01-10-2016, 07:22 PM

No, I'm pretty sure it was Zanramon.

Utrommaniac

01-10-2016, 07:53 PM

Ah...yes. Good and evil have completely separated and absolutely no blurring between them. My favorite.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/VictoriaCJohnsen/KL/lilopillow.gif

Darn it Bishop, you screwed up the planet.

We should be in for a ride with that closing line and sepia shot, though. April's gonna do the thing.

It was still a good episode though. Still enjoying how soaking in The Doctor that the Fugitoid is in. "Oh dear. This planet is more messed up than it was the last time I was here in the TARDIS"

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 07:58 PM

Fun, but nothing to write home about. The Aeons blew my mind, though. What a cool ass species. I hope we see them again.

Their true form or their corrupted form? I liked both, but I really hope to see that twisted flying demon again... even if it might be someone else who has to be corrupted. :evilgrin:

aliena

01-10-2016, 08:06 PM

I'm crossing my fingers that Raphs chipped plastron will get mentioned in the next episode.

Yeah it is the first time.

Yeah this is also the first time the Turtles have said "I love you"

oops, Raph told the guys he loved them in the Bay movie, so it is the second time that one of them said "I love you", but it was the first time Raph said what he did to Leo. I consider that character development in a big way, especially for Raph.

Powder

01-10-2016, 08:53 PM

Their true form or their corrupted form? I liked both, but I really hope to see that twisted flying demon again... even if it might be someone else who has to be corrupted. :evilgrin:

The true one! I love seeing more "traditional" looking extra terrestrials who are all about ascension & stuff. :trazz:

ToTheNines

01-10-2016, 09:09 PM

No, I'm pretty sure it was Zanramon.

Just watched it again, the exact quote was:

"By the luck of the great Zanmorann".

Weirdly close to Zanramon for just a throw away line. I dunno.

oldmanwinters

01-10-2016, 09:17 PM

The true one! I love seeing more "traditional" looking extra terrestrials who are all about ascension & stuff. :trazz:

Yeah, they were might cool looking. For some reason, their true forms remind me of the character Mark Hamill is supposed to play later this season.

victory_angel

01-10-2016, 10:57 PM

oops, Raph told the guys he loved them in the Bay movie, so it is the second time that one of them said "I love you", but it was the first time Raph said what he did to Leo. I consider that character development in a big way, especially for Raph.

Not to mention in Showdown during the group hug, Mikey says "Oh man! I love you, Bros!" And during Wormquake when they are being pushed towards the furnace, he says "This is it! I love you guys!..."

ssjup81

01-10-2016, 11:35 PM

Okay, just watched this episode. I really really liked it. My favorite moment....Fugitoid threatening to smack everyone. That scene alone is worth the entire series. :tlol:

That aside, I like how snippy everyone was getting, making it pretty obvious that the planet itself was to cause. I guess the main one I liked, though, was Mikey. I like how he was speaking his mind and stuff and also like the fact that they point out that Mikey is gullible, not stupid as Casey has that title and I personally don't mind that. I'm glad they're having April controlling her powers now as well as training them. She started with Splinter and then Donnie sorta and now Fugitoid is helping.

Now, the ending of this episode....I sense we're getting a Dark April episode and if so, bring it on. Should be interesting if they go that route.

evan2000

01-10-2016, 11:35 PM

Not to mention in Showdown during the group hug, Mikey says "Oh man! I love you, Bros!" And during Wormquake when they are being pushed towards the furnace, he says "This is it! I love you guys!..."

Also in Rise of the Turtles Raph did say "I love you, man" to Spike :tlol:

cookie jar

01-11-2016, 05:18 AM

Yeah, they were might cool looking. For some reason, their true forms remind me of the character Mark Hamill is supposed to play later this season.

Actually his character is coming to season 5, not season 4. https://www.instagram.com/p/_Z7fv7oB4S/?taken-by=brandon_auman

Utrommaniac

01-11-2016, 08:23 AM

Okay, just watched this episode. I really really liked it. My favorite moment....Fugitoid threatening to smack everyone. That scene alone is worth the entire series. :tlol:

"This is my smacking hand!"

Truly, another gold moment to add to Tennant's list. Apart from unintentionally quoting the Circle of Life.

oldmanwinters

01-11-2016, 08:23 AM

Actually his character is coming to season 5, not season 4. https://www.instagram.com/p/_Z7fv7oB4S/?taken-by=brandon_auman

Thanks for the reminder! The future looks bright (or should I say "dark") for the Nick TMNT toon!

LeotheLateBloomer

01-11-2016, 11:05 AM

It was an okay episode. The Aeons' true designs were really cool though and it did remind me of when April changed to a winged demon in BttS. I did think Leo hugging Raph before his brother goes off on him did catch me off guard. Definitely caught Raph off guard.

JH24

01-11-2016, 11:12 AM

Good episode with some nice moments. Like Leo hugging Raph and Casey's/Donnie's gaptooth argument.

Only thing that bothered me was Casey. Do the writers know what they want to do with him? Not only does it feel that his character is "just there" (aside from some nice moves during fights) but he seems to become dumber with every episode and it's irritating. Especially because I like Casey as a character.

evan2000

01-11-2016, 11:30 AM

This cracked me up :tlol:

http://i.imgur.com/xfGWMaO.gif

AWKWARD!!

drgon78

01-11-2016, 01:38 PM

Great episode, love the whole power corrupts no matter who you are.

I agree, Casey has been the weakest link writing wise for a while now. It's like he was original not supposed to be in the story arc but was forced in.

srmff

01-11-2016, 01:44 PM

Ah...yes. Good and evil have completely separated and absolutely no blurring between them. My favorite.

My favourite movies are like that actually such as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. I'll forever be naive and idealistic. Probably why I'll be forever alone. I'm in love with the idea of old fashioned heroes that don't exist. :lol:.

I loved this episode. I've actually really liked all of season 4 so far. I liked a chance to hear what the characters think and feel in the darker parts of their minds like Raph, Leo and even Mikey that they never say out loud. As for them not dealing with what was said at the end, I'd probably do the same in that position. Just act like it was never said and never confront it. It's probably not the best way to deal with things but I prefer to brush things aside and not make a big deal out of it. I'd apologise but I wouldn't bring up what someone said.

I also liked exploring a new world and a chance to see the triceratons again. I must have been the only person who didn't expect it to be revealed that the Aeons were the evil creatures :lol:.

The end with April is definitely foreshadowing and if it wasn't, that scene will always seem strange. It would be an interesting twist if they can pull it off.

As usual, Casey was there with lots to add :tgrumble:.

lonewarrior20

01-11-2016, 02:07 PM

the way this episode went i was reminded of the 80's movie the dark crystal.

ssjup81

01-11-2016, 04:56 PM

Yes!!!!!! Mikey didn't press the button.I liked this too. I actually don't mind it happening accidentally, but not in the way Casey did. That was definitely a season 1 Mikey move Casey pulled.

Speaking of Casey...he's a strange one. I think he's the ADHD one since he seems to always need action or to keep busy. Maybe it's because he's been cooped up on a ship for so long.

The Happy One

01-11-2016, 06:17 PM

I liked this too. I actually don't mind it happening accidentally, but not in the way Casey did. That was definitely a season 1 Mikey move Casey pulled.

Speaking of Casey...he's a strange one. I think he's the ADHD one since he seems to always need action or to keep busy. Maybe it's because he's been cooped up on a ship for so long.

You know...I thought that, too.
I mean, it seems that he always needs something to do or touch or just anything random to say. And I don't think he was like that at first- when we first met him.

drgon78

01-11-2016, 06:57 PM

It did remind me of the movie Dark Crystal.

I am glad that it wasn't Mikey who triggered the trap...this time.

THGhost

01-11-2016, 07:10 PM

Fun episode. So are we gonna be seeing a "Dark April" later on? The ending reeked of foreshadowing.

they could at least show someone help him reattach his arm or something. Maybe it got cut to save time :-?

I came here to ask this very question! Cutting it out to save time creates a continuity error, unless that's what they wanted. Slight nod to the 80s series, perhaps?

evan2000

01-11-2016, 10:56 PM

I came here to ask this very question! Cutting it out to save time creates a continuity error, unless that's what they wanted. Slight nod to the 80s series, perhaps?

He did fix himself up eventually but most of us were distracted by Raph scolding Casey :trazz:

http://i.imgur.com/FIFdHzO.gif

ssjup81

01-11-2016, 11:21 PM

You know...I thought that, too.
I mean, it seems that he always needs something to do or touch or just anything random to say. And I don't think he was like that at first- when we first met him.Well, he could just be going stir crazy.

Mini-Turtle

01-11-2016, 11:39 PM

My favorite part was Don's tush-in-the-thorns incidents, but I definitely liked Honeycutt threatening to smack everyone! I also believe that it is very possible that we will see "Gollum April" in the episodes to come.

renegadez21

01-12-2016, 01:07 AM

did not read thru every post so not sure if it was already mentioned and if it was,sorry in advance......but am i the only one that thought these flying aliens looked like the vampire bat from the 2007 movie!

ThunDerian

01-12-2016, 05:52 AM

Didnt like this episode at all. Very generic. It had some fun moments, but overall I was disappointed. Filler episode if I ever saw one :) The Triceratons are awesome though!

Vicky82

01-12-2016, 06:12 AM

Didnt like this episode at all. Very generic. It had some fun moments, but overall I was disappointed. Filler episode if I ever saw one :) The Triceratons are awesome though!

This wasn't a filler episode, it's part of main story.

The Happy One

01-12-2016, 07:48 AM

Well, he could just be going stir crazy.

Ha:lol:
Probably...

oldmanwinters

01-12-2016, 09:19 AM

ThunDerian

01-12-2016, 09:22 AM

This wasn't a filler episode, it's part of main story.

Well, the part of the main story was what they were looking for, right? :tlol:

Vicky82

01-12-2016, 09:40 AM

Well, the part of the main story was what they were looking for, right? :tlol:

Yeah the fragments, that's the main story as well as Dregg, Armaggon, Mona Lisa ect.

The only filler episode we've had so far was the WYRM episode and I guess the next episode might be a filler too.

THGhost

01-12-2016, 10:38 AM

He did fix himself up eventually but most of us were distracted by Raph scolding Casey :trazz:

http://i.imgur.com/FIFdHzO.gif

Thanks, missed that. But when did he get his arm back? We never saw him pick it up. :P

matteso586

01-12-2016, 01:44 PM

According to Peter Di Cicco, the reason why April isn't affected by the planet's atmosphere, is because she's psychic. ... Called it.

evan2000

01-12-2016, 02:21 PM

Thanks, missed that. But when did he get his arm back? We never saw him pick it up. :P

He did attempt to pick up his broken arm with his good arm. It all happened very quickly though.

http://i.imgur.com/GtPLh0N.gif

Etsyturtle2

01-12-2016, 02:35 PM

I saw pop it back on behind the turtles in one shot.

VaughnMichael

01-12-2016, 03:01 PM

I enjoyed it well enough and the bit with Mikey cracking his space helmet had me like :o then I was like :roll: ugh idiot lol
I can't believe Fugitoid hadn't used that head blast thing before as it could have gotten them out of other situations.
April also could have used her powers to stop those bat aliens, not sure why they're called demons as they're really not.
Speaking of I'd actually enjoy seeing the TMNT take on some Tengu or other demons.
So the Aeons, totally wasted potential there at an Archie Adventures throwback.
They easily could have been the Sons of Silence.
In fact they could have had the Turn Stone be part of the black hole generator.
But hey maybe they have plans to use this stuff later in the series and don't want to use everything up all at once.
I do have to wonder what the fragment will do for them later on though.
I do hope they make some more allies along the way to help aid them in the upcoming battle against the Triceratons.

Eurydemus

01-12-2016, 03:21 PM

Not a bad episode overall. When the planet-seemingly-causing-and-feeding-off-anger plot point first surfaced I was hoping for an Elder Ones/Ancient Evil-type deal, but was ultimately disappointed. Still, I'm just glad we're getting new episodes again!

THGhost

01-12-2016, 03:30 PM

He did attempt to pick up his broken arm with his good arm. It all happened very quickly though.

http://i.imgur.com/GtPLh0N.gif

I must've blinked while that was happening. :P

According to Peter Di Cicco, the reason why April isn't affected by the planet's atmosphere, is because she's psychic. ... Called it.

I don't see how being psychic would make her immune, but okay. I'll buy it. Looking forward to her possibly turning evil and using her powers against the Turtles.

TigerClaw

01-12-2016, 03:54 PM

I must've blinked while that was happening. :P

I don't see how being psychic would make her immune, but okay. I'll buy it. Looking forward to her possibly turning evil and using her powers against the Turtles.
Considering she fall into a tank full of Mutagen and nothing happen to her, so it's no surprise that the planet's atmosphere had no affect on her.

cryan

01-12-2016, 07:27 PM

I love the lead Triceriton ordering to send down an away team. Seeing he is played by Micheal Dorn for Star Trek TNG.

TLP

01-12-2016, 09:32 PM

This may be my OCD talking: but could anyone tell if one of the two named Triceratons ("Zarus" and "Zovox"), out of the three total (not counting Mozar), was the one incinerated by the Fugitoid? I think it would be interesting for the wiki to know, if a wiki user happens to be reading this.

I think knowing the voice actors for all three of them would give some of a clue. =/

Turtle-X

01-13-2016, 09:42 PM

i liked this episode. i wish it had focused more on April than the turtles fighting though. Donny falling into the thorns and the demon laughing at him cracked me up.

Guitar_Raph

01-14-2016, 02:25 PM

At one point, Raph & Mikey were like Moe & Curly. Who would be Larry? Don or Leo?

victory_angel

01-14-2016, 02:56 PM

At one point, Raph & Mikey were like Moe & Curly. Who would be Larry? Don or Leo?

Since Moe and Curly were brothers so Casey would be Larry. Donnie would be more like Shemp Howard

Splinter the boss

01-14-2016, 04:31 PM

I finally watched it. That was a cool episode, with the Aeons' corruption and all. I also liked how Mikey was expressing his feelings. However, there is one thing I did not like, it is the fact that the fugitoid killed the triceraton just like that. It's like he didn't feel anything and did it for fun. Besides that, it's a 9/10.

cryan

01-14-2016, 04:40 PM

Fun episode. So are we gonna be seeing a "Dark April" later on? The ending reeked of foreshadowing.

I came here to ask this very question! Cutting it out to save time creates a continuity error, unless that's what they wanted. Slight nod to the 80s series, perhaps?

Well the Aeons said the piece of star crystal they gave them will bring them luck and power. I do hope April doesn't go all dark.

martinitolove

01-14-2016, 04:41 PM

So who is this guy in a suit, that gave the Aeons their black hole generator fragment?

The Happy One

01-14-2016, 04:48 PM

So who is this guy in a suit, that gave the Aeons their black hole generator fragment?

That would be Bishop.

victory_angel

01-14-2016, 05:04 PM

it is the fact that the fugitoid killed the triceraton just like that. It's like he didn't feel anything and did it for fun. Besides that, it's a 9/10.

I never got that impression. It's hard to show emotion that is a robot body that is only minorly capable of expressing it. I'm sure he did feel bad of vaporizing that one Triceraton, after all he had only been following and nothing more.

But Honeycutt also couldn't afford to be captured by the Triceraton's either.

thundermaster612

01-14-2016, 06:15 PM

so we saw Fugitoid murder a triceraton, now how about we see the turtles do that...

Splinter the boss

01-14-2016, 07:16 PM

Also, how can a piece of technology corrupt advanced aliens? That doesn't make any sense to me. Unless it was mystical.

victory_angel

01-14-2016, 07:17 PM

so we saw Fugitoid murder a triceraton, now how about we see the turtles do that...

But the Fugitoid is a pacifist in cannon and he only killed that Triceraton in selfdefense, not because he wanted to do it.

The Turtles also are better then their enemies in that sense they don't believe in needless killing. They believe in killing only if there is an absolute need for it or in extreme situations, otherwise they just leave the villain humiliated by their defeat

matteso586

01-14-2016, 07:43 PM

That would be Bishop.

Or a different Utrom.

martinitolove

01-15-2016, 01:40 AM

Or a different Utrom.

Was this already discussed this season? I don't remember anything of it. Has Fugitoid told that to the TMNT?

The episodes come out with such long time in between them, that I forget parts of the story...

victory_angel

01-15-2016, 03:45 AM

Was this already discussed this season? I don't remember anything of it. Has Fugitoid told that to the TMNT?

The episodes come out with such long time in between them, that I forget parts of the story...

The Turtles encounter Bishop in the season 3 finally and he tells the Turtles that he is an Utrom and that the Utroms are a group of Kraang that broke away from the Kraang hivemind. And the Fugitoid explains that the pieces of the heart of darkness were hidden in the safest places in the Universe they could find.

martinitolove

01-16-2016, 02:44 PM

So Fugitoid did NOT tell TMNT that it was Bishop who hid the pieces. This means it may have been not Bishop in that scene. We just do not know for sure. Good. Thanks

Klunk1234

01-19-2016, 10:26 AM

It was a good episode. I wonder if April will be ended up corrupted by that Crystal.

darthwahl56

01-19-2016, 06:56 PM

It was a good episode. I wonder if April will be ended up corrupted by that Crystal.

It almost seems like that was what they were eluding to, pausing on her like they did.

Also, when Fugitoid was telling his story it seemed like it was Bishop in that artwork that was shown.

I really like these space episodes. They seem to be more on point with the story than with the farmhouse episodes. The ever growing amount of characters showing up is awesome as well. Going to space was good timing as well, because of Star Wars being out right now.

Donny's computer84

01-19-2016, 10:25 PM

:) it was a good episode, I liked how the Fugitoid was in this one. Mikey was showing more alertness when they were on the planet filled with evil. I like the shuttle craft they arrived in. Lots of references to Star Trek :-)

Technogeek29

01-22-2016, 04:01 AM

Saw this floating around tumblr probably just coincidence.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/a0e683341c521bf57598d23a906cc859/tumblr_o0vpsdFOkx1tt7sqio1_500.png

Splinter the boss

01-22-2016, 07:15 AM

Saw this floating around tumblr probably just coincidence.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/a0e683341c521bf57598d23a906cc859/tumblr_o0vpsdFOkx1tt7sqio1_500.png

Now that you posted this, they are exactly the same. I remember that episode, Katara was having hallucinations of her mother. And, the swamp was messing with her head. Same with Leo here, except he wasn't affected by the planet yet.

I think it is just confidence as I have watched many shows and movies where a character hallucinates of their missing loved ones.