Ryan Coogler Directing Black Panther

[Autbot_Benz]

It’s official, Marvelites: Ryan Coogler will step up to direct Marvel’s “Black Panther,” in theaters February 16, 2018!

Chadwick Boseman will star in “Black Panther” after debuting as the character in the upcoming Marvel’s “Captain America: Civil War,” in theaters May 6.

Chadwick Boseman stars as the Black Panther in Marvel's Captain America: Civil War


“We are fortunate to have such an esteemed filmmaker join the Marvel family,” said producer Kevin Feige. “The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct ‘Black Panther.’ Many fans have waited a long time to see Black Panther in his own film, and with Ryan we know we’ve found the perfect director to bring T’Challa’s story to life.”

Coogler wrote and directed his first award-winning feature film, “Fruitvale Station,” in 2013. Most recently he directed the critically-acclaimed “Creed,” which earned Sylvester Stallone a Golden Globe for Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture.

Black Panther has been an important character in the Marvel universe for 50 years. He is the king of the technologically-advanced nation of Wakanda, and Panther has served as a member of the Avengers in addition to his many solo adventures.

Coogler is represented by WME and Cohen Gardner LLP.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/movies/25616/ryan_coogler_to_direct_marvels_black_panther#ixzz3 wz9IRAFD

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Awesome!

Really enjoyed Creed, so I can't wait to see what he can do with the prince of Wakanda.

[TurtleTitan97]

That's an excellent choice.

[NinjaPug]

Sweet. Glad this is finally official.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

My money's on Klaw as the bad guy in this one.

[NinjaPug]

Lupita Nyong'o is in talks for a role in this movie

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-lupita-nyongo-talks-893213

[Powder]

With a last name like Googler he'd better do his research! :tlol:

I'll see myself out.

Aaaaand that I realized it's Coogler. That's what I get for reading the forums without wearing my glasses.

[Autbot_Benz]

Micheal B Jordan joins Black Panther

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-michael-b-jordan-893845?facebook_20160513

[NinjaPug]

Hell yes! So excited for this movie.

Now both versions of Human Torch are in the MCU.

[The Deadman]

Marvel Hoping To Shoot Parts Of BLACK PANTHER In Africa (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/marvel-hoping-to-shoot-parts-of-black-panther-in-africa-a141918)

[ToTheNines]

Jordan is confirmed as Killmonger. Danai Gurira joins the cast.

https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2016/07/23/danai-gurira-cast-in-black-panther/?client=ms-android-sprint-us#

[NinjaPug]

Lupita revealed the gist of the Black Panther story after the SDCC panel:

"The story of this Black Panther - what I am allowed to say - is that Black Panther's leadership has been threatened by two foes who come together, and so Black Panther gets the help of the C.I.A. and the Dora Milaje to try and defeat the enemy."

[ToTheNines]

So Killmonger and Klaue team up. And hopefully Emily van Camp has a role, don't see why else they'd bother involving the CIA.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So Killmonger and Klaue team up. And hopefully Emily van Camp has a role, don't see why else they'd bother involving the CIA.

Didn't think of that. Maybe.

More likely it's Martin Freeman as whoever the heck he was. Agent NotPhilCoulson. :tlol:

[NinjaPug]

I remember reading elsewhere that Martin Freeman was going to be in this.

[ToTheNines]

His character, Everett Ross, was with the fictional JCTC, not CIA. But perhaps Lupita misspoke.

[TurtleTitan97]

Winston Duke has been casted as classic Black Panther villain M'Baku/Man-Ape: http://www.thewrap.com/black-panther-hires-person-of-interest-star-winston-duke-as-villain/

[ToTheNines]

Interesting. I wonder if he'll serve a purpose, or they just wanted to give Killmonger a cool goon.

[NinjaPug]

Marvel released the cast list and synopsis for the movie. It was assumed but good to see Serkis is confirmed.

"Black Panther” follows T’Challa who, after the events of “Captain America: Civil War,” returns home to the isolated, technologically advanced African nation of Wakanda to take his place as King. However, when an old enemy reappears on the radar, T’Challa’s mettle as King and Black Panther is tested when he is drawn into a conflict that puts the entire fate of Wakanda and the world at risk.

https://news.marvel.com/movies/58647/marvel-studios-begins-production-black-panther-2/

[NinjaPug]

Teaser trailer is coming tonight during the NBA finals.

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/black-panther.jpg?w=691

[DestronMirage22]

Teaser trailer is coming tonight during the NBA finals.

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/black-panther.jpg?w=691

Excited for the teaser, but that poster looks terrible. He looks out of focus and it's obvious they just slapped his head onto that body.

[TigerClaw]

Check out the Poster
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/black-panther-takes-the-throne-on-the-first-official-poster-for-the-movie-first-teaser-trailer-later-tonight-a151696

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/black-panther.jpg?w=691

[TigerClaw]

Here's the trailer

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Here's the trailer

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Cooooooooooool.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think I'm gonna like this.

[Shark_Blade]

I love what I'm seeing so far.

[DestronMirage22]

Teaser trailer looks really cool. The whole thing was a definite change from what Marvel movies usually look and feel like, so this is shaping up to be a good one.

[AT-Man]

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[ToTheNines]

Marvel hasn't made a bad trailer yet, even for their couple of stinkers.

I never even liked BP until Civil War last year, but I literally can't stop watching this teaser lol. Everything looks amazing. Can't wait for this one.

[ToTheNines]

The solicit for the Prelude comic sounds awesome. Out in October.

Wakanda. The most technologically advanced nation in the world – and protected by the mighty BLACK PANTHER! Learn how T’CHALLA became the legendary hero of Wakanda in this ALL-NEW, NEVER-BEFORE-TOLD tale set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe! See how the mantle was passed to the future king, in a time when super heroes were just emerging in the larger world, before this winter’s BLACK PANTHER film hits theaters!

[TurtleTitan97]

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[NinjaPug]

This looks pretty damn good. If Suicide Squad can win an Oscar for make-up then surely this will get the nod for costumes. Everything about Wakanda looks incredible.

With this trailer out now I assume we won't get the trailer for Infinity War until late November / early December.

[ProphetofGanja]

That trailer was f#cking tight.

[TigerClaw]

The trailer was great, I like how Wakanda has this tribal/futuristic look to it, kind of otherworldly.

[Spike Spiegel]

Taking a wild guess, I'd imagine that the Michael B. Jordan character is challenging T'Challa for his throne.

[TigerClaw]

Taking a wild guess, I'd imagine that the Michael B. Jordan character is challenging T'Challa for his throne.
Yeah, he is, that's what his character is all about.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Erik_Killmonger_(Earth-616)

[ProphetofGanja]

The trailer was great, I like how Wakanda has this tribal/futuristic look to it, kind of otherworldly.

You could classify it as an afrofuturistic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism) aesthetic

[Autbot_Benz]

Here is the poster

https://i.imgur.com/i7gKcTs.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/tchalla-has-been-black-panther-in-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-longer-than-any-of-us-ever-expected-a154685

MCU News & Tweets @MCU_Tweets

T'Challa has been the Black Panther in the MCU ever since Tony Stark announced that he was Iron Man...

[ProphetofGanja]

23 days til Black Panther!

[TigerClaw]

Check out this first clip from the movie.

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Shuri drives a car using some sort of VR technology, and Black Panther's suit getting hit by bullets, which charges the suit with kinetic energy.

[ProphetofGanja]

Pretty freakin' sweet

[Spike Spiegel]

The last MCU film I watched was Civil War. Have they managed to start making these stand alones more, well, stand alone rather than forcing hints about the next five movies in every other scene?

The prospect of that happening is the only major gripe I have about potentially going and seeing this next month.

[TigerClaw]

The last MCU film I watched was Civil War. Have they managed to start making these stand alones more, well, stand alone rather than forcing hints about the next five movies in every other scene?

The prospect of that happening is the only major gripe I have about potentially going and seeing this next month.
I love that these movies hints about the other stuff coming out, its a shared universe after all, and that's what I love about these movies.

[AT-Man]

The lady's accent sounds a bit funny, but that's one neat clip. It does make me wonder, just how fantastic will Wakanda's advanced technology be?

[ProphetofGanja]

I love that these movies hints about the other stuff coming out, its a shared universe after all, and that's what I love about these movies.

Yeah, I love it too as long as it's done well

The last MCU film I watched was Civil War. Have they managed to start making these stand alones more, well, stand alone rather than forcing hints about the next five movies in every other scene?

The prospect of that happening is the only major gripe I have about potentially going and seeing this next month.


Of the films that have come out since Civil War (Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man: Homecoming, & Thor: Ragnarok) most have had relatively little connective tissue linking them to the larger MCU. Sure they reference things that have happened in other films in passing, but it's not like there are shots of Thanos menacingly sitting in a chair interspersed throughout.

[Autbot_Benz]

its 100% on RT right now those anti marvel twitter DCEU/Snyder fans are gonna be triggered.

Damn marvel paying those critics even though WB owns a share of RT:lol:

[ProphetofGanja]

Yeah, you know they and others are gonna hate on this film super hard. Did you see that there was a group created on Facebook to try and purposefully tank the film's ratings? Idiots :lol:

Black Panther Early Reviews Declare Film a Marvel Masterpiece (https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-movie-reviews-roundup/)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Here's a description of the two after-credits scenes... :tgrin:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/major-spoilers-black-panthers-two-after-credits-scenes-have-been-revealed-a157655

Nothing earth-shattering...

[Shark_Blade]

WAKANDA!!!

Black Panther is 98% on rottentomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_panther_2018/) and it's heading toward massive $170 million-plus opening (http://variety.com/2018/film/news/box-office-black-panther-opening-weekend-tracking-1202696018/).

Phew, what an amazing ride. Just love everything about it.
I'm pretty surprised that Lupita Nyong'o and Daniel Kaluuya were in the film, good thing I skip the trailers (only seen the first one but it's been so long).

"You are a good man, with a good heart. And it’s hard for a good man to be a king."

4/5 stars.

[Andrew NDB]

Here's a description of the two after-credits scenes... :tgrin:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/major-spoilers-black-panthers-two-after-credits-scenes-have-been-revealed-a157655

Nothing earth-shattering...

Those sound completely unnecessary.

[CyberCubed]

Sounds like the best Marvel movie since Civil War, which was the best Marvel movie since The Winter Soldier.

Granted Dr. Strange was pretty good too, but this looks like it will raise the bar.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Those sound completely unnecessary.

So have been half of the Marvel credit scenes... at this point, I think I'm with James Mangold on end credit scenes.

[ZariusTwo]

One of the better Marvel movies. Really enjoyed it, and fairly standalone too.

Michael B Jordan kills it here. You'll actually end up rooting for him

Boy were those post-credit scenes boring though.

[Redeemer]

Yeah, you know they and others are gonna hate on this film super hard. Did you see that there was a group created on Facebook to try and purposefully tank the film's ratings? Idiots :lol:

Black Panther Early Reviews Declare Film a Marvel Masterpiece (https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-movie-reviews-roundup/)

That pretty sad :lol: Only if people were this passionate about voting we might have a respectable turn out rate for voting. :lol:

I am sure this movie will be a let down/ over-rated like a lot of other marvel movies. Don't get me wrong this movie looks great, but I don't think it is as good as people are saying.

Sounds like the best Marvel movie since Civil War, which was the best Marvel movie since The Winter Soldier.

Granted Dr. Strange was pretty good too, but this looks like it will raise the bar.
Are you drunk??? :lol: JK
I think Captain America Civil War is the worse movie Marvel has put out. The movie is inconsistent in terms of story telling. The villain was horrible and forgettable, the tremendous build up fell flat as a pancake..... I can go on and on, but that movie is hot trash..... It was pretty much Marvel version of Batman v Superman essentially they wanted to cash in on the heroes who would be in the movie, but could not produce a competent script that would make the fighting and story fell natural instead of forced and fake.

[plastroncafe]

Yup, sure do disagree with that guy.

I like them for personal reasons, as well as practical.
I like the excuse they give for folks to stay in the theater and discuss what they just saw, so they're not standing outside in the lobby spoiling it for people who haven't seen it yet.

Also, I kind of dig reading the credits.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yup, sure do disagree with that guy.

I like them for personal reasons, as well as practical.
I like the excuse they give for folks to stay in the theater and discuss what they just saw, so they're not standing outside in the lobby spoiling it for people who haven't seen it yet.

Also, I kind of dig reading the credits.

When the scenes are of import, I appreciate them. But when they're little jokes like the Captain America PSA in Homecoming, or Howard the freaking Duck in Guardians of the Galaxy, then it feels like a waste of time. I could already be across the street chowing down on onion rings arguing over the script's nuances with my gang.

And I do always like trying to find my own name in the credits. Cylons doesn't pop up all that often...

[plastroncafe]

When the scenes are of import, I appreciate them. But when they're little jokes like the Captain America PSA in Homecoming, or Howard the freaking Duck in Guardians of the Galaxy, then it feels like a waste of time. I could already be across the street chowing down on onion rings arguing over the script's nuances with my gang.

And I do always like trying to find my own name in the credits. Cylons doesn't pop up all that often...

I felt more cheated by the Thor cameo in Strange than I did Howard or Cap's PSA.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I felt more cheated by the Thor cameo in Strange than I did Howard or Cap's PSA.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "cheated"... the film doesn't OWE me a bonus scene. But my time wasted comparatively? Yeah.

And the Thor bit is a lot less important or foreboding than Mordo magic-kicking a guy back to physical therapy. :tlol:

I guess if it's sequel bait or a fun moment of character, then it works for me. Teenager Groot works for me. Stan Lee talking to giant blue bobble heads does NOT work for me.

[plastroncafe]

I wouldn't go so far as to say "cheated"... the film doesn't OWE me a bonus scene. But my time wasted comparatively? Yeah.

And the Thor bit is a lot less important or foreboding than Mordo magic-kicking a guy back to physical therapy. :tlol:

I guess if it's sequel bait or a fun moment of character, then it works for me. Teenager Groot works for me. Stan Lee talking to giant blue bobble heads does NOT work for me.

See, those guys work for me because they expand the world.
I wasn't expecting to see The Watchers.

Though, every time Lee takes to the screen I feel more and more like he's being exploited.

[GoldMutant]

I am definitely gearing up to see this; Black Panther was one of my favorite parts of Civil War, probably more so than Spider-Man, as well as in EMH.

[Shark_Blade]

Box Office: ‘Black Panther’ Rules With $23.2 Million Overseas
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/black-panther-box-office-1202700353/

“Black Panther” is already ruling over the international box office.

The Marvel movie blasted off to a lordly $23.2 million overseas after opening in 17 locations, including the United Kingdom, South Korea, and France. Domestically, “Black Panther” will launch in previews on Thursday night before debuting across 4,020 locations. The film is expected to open to as much as $170 million — enthusiasm is rising on the strength of glowing reviews and the historic nature of the production. It is the first Marvel Cinematic Universe movie with a black protagonist.

“Black Panther,” which carries a $200 million budget, opened to $7.2 million in the U.K., $4.7 million in South Korea, $2 million in Taiwan, $1.6 million in France, and $1.1 million in Hong Kong. In many key markets, “Black Panther” is outpacing previous comic-book movie hits such as “Doctor Strange,” “Wonder Woman,” and “Guardians of the Galaxy,” all of which augurs for a healthy opening weekend and much to celebrate in the halls of Marvel.

[NinjaPug]

Pretty great movie. Felt like Boseman got overshadowed by a number of the other actors in this - primarily Michael B Jordan.

[TigerClaw]

I'm gonna see it tomorrow.

[plastroncafe]

I'll be heading out for my first showing of the movie tonight, with another one on Monday.
(when an adorable child asks you to go with them to see a comicbook movie, you say yes. even if you haven't seen the movie yet, and will be seeing it for the first time earlier that weekend.)

[AquaParade]

Loved it! Definitely one of my favorite MCU films. Highlights for me were the musical score, world building, and humor.

[ProphetofGanja]

Great film, just got back a little while ago. It was still definitely a comic book movie in the sense that things happen just because it'd be cool, but boy was this movie ****ing cool. The world-building might have been the best part of this film but the action and humor were close behind and all the actors were firing on all cylinders. I liked the post-credits scenes, but it's best to not expect anything too significant from them. Unfortunately I didn't get to see any previews at all, were there any new good ones?

[Shark_Blade]

Just Infinity War, same old same old.

[ZariusTwo]

I saw Deadpool 2's recent "Meet Cable" trailer at my screening (edited for the kids watching BP)

[AT-Man]

Now more than ever do I wish the IMDB discussion boards still existed.

[Andrew NDB]

Pretty good. After about the first 15 minutes and we meet all the players, the rest of the movie becomes completely predictable (there are no surprises) but it's all great performances, great execution and a big scope. Solid villain, very sympathetic. The end credits scenes (yes, there's 2... and it's surprising, like 20 movies into the MCU now with them always being in there and scores of people still leave the theater right when the credits roll) are nothing to write home about. I can't say that it feels anything like any Marvel movie before it, which is a good thing. I imagine after this movie, Coogler is going to be able to make any movie he wants... anywhere. He's always made good stuff, though it's too bad he passed on Creed II.

*: A small contrivance, but it bugged me: really, hundreds, thousands of years of Black Panther kings... and it just happens to be one week after the events of Civil War that the Wakandans invent nano-tech Black Panther suits? Just in time for the movie?

[TigerClaw]

Just seen it. It's the best Marvel movie yet.

[TigerClaw]

Regarding that Post Credit Scene.
Looks like Bucky will become the MCU version of White Wolf

[Coola Yagami]

The movie was awesome, a true feast for the eyes. I felt for the villain, and I felt T'Challa's struggle. I loved how Klau cheesed it up. Loved the whole thing beginning to end.

[Shark_Blade]

Regarding that Post Credit Scene.
Looks like Bucky will become the MCU version of White Wolf

What's a white wolf?

You mean this? (https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/02/16/black-panther-who-is-white-wolf-bucky-marvel/)

[TigerClaw]

What's a white wolf?

You mean this? (https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/02/16/black-panther-who-is-white-wolf-bucky-marvel/)
White Wolf is Black Panther's adopted brother in the comics.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/White_Wolf_(Hunter)_(Earth-616)

In the comics he was a white child whose parents were killed in a plane crash. and then King T'Chaka the original Black Panther adopted him long before T'Challa was born.

[Shark_Blade]

I see, so that's what Bucky gonna be in Infinity War I guess.

[TigerClaw]

I see, so that's what Bucky gonna be in Infinity War I guess.
Yeah looks like they are changing it around so that he is the White Wolf in the MCU.

[Shark_Blade]

Kevin Feige (President of Marvel Studios) Says Black Panther is the MCU’s Best Movie to Date
https://screenrant.com/black-panther-best-mcu-movie-kevin-feige/

Kevin Feige believes Black Panther is the best Marvel Cinematic Universe movie to date. When Marvel Studios began, Kevin Feige was put in charge of the operation. Thanks to his long-term vision, knowledge of the source material, and passion to make something unique, the MCU is celebrating its 10th anniversary this year. The celebration comes in an incredibly important year for the universe. Yes, Thanos is finally coming to battle all the heroes the MCU has to offer, but Black Panther kicks off the year, and is doing so in grand fashion.

Once again, Marvel Studios has secured a movie that certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. It has also been one of their most talked about movies, which has led to high levels of anticipation. Just looking at the film’s incredible number of ticket pre-sales, it was poised to be big, and now the box office is already reflecting that. All of this is happening to a film many are raving about, including Marvel Studios’ head honcho.

ABC News spoke to several people involved with Black Panther including Kevin Feige. In the conversation, Feige revealed his thoughts on the final product and recalled his immediate reaction when seeing the final product with director Ryan Coogler.

The movie finished and I looked over at Ryan and I said, ‘That’s the best movie we’ve ever made.’

Black Panther Mid credits scene Kevin Feige Says Black Panther is the MCUs Best Movie to Date
It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Feige is happy with the final product, but this is some incredibly high praise. He typically isn’t one to over-hype a movie just to sell tickets, and since this was his immediate reaction, it says a lot. While not everyone is going to agree with Black Panther being the best – and it may take time for it to fall in its rightful place in the pantheon of MCU movies – Feige certainly isn’t alone in this thinking.

When it comes to naming the best MCU movie, there are a few that are typically associated as the best. Both Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Captain America: Civil War are highly regarded, and more likely than not top the ‘Best Of’ lists for most. However, there’s also The Avengers, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy that each have their own loyal supporters, and rightfully so. There’s even some that put Ant-Man in this top tier, if not at the very top, just because of how fun it was. Black Panther in many ways is the best combination of several MCU movies. It has an outstanding villain, a stellar cast, looks beautiful, great action, the right amount of humor and drama, and so on. As the MCU continues on, there’s still time for Feige and company to make something that is even greater. But if not, Black Panther is a darn good movie to stand above the rest.

[NinjaPug]

Black Panther is going to have the 2nd highest MCU opening ever.

It's also going to match Justice League's entire domestic box office in 4 days. Crazy.

[sdp]

As much as the social commentary is beyond annoying I'm so glad this movie is doing well. I can't believe Black Panther is getting this much hype, it's so awesome. Stan Lee always said "A black panther movie is the one I want to see, it'll be huge" and I never believed him but here we are!

I think this is the biggest Marvel movie hero in terms of hype coming from a c-list level to mainstream success since Guardians of the Galaxy and before that I'd only say Iron Man. Hope it pushes Marvel to give other little guys a shot now that it apparently will have X-men back. And other movie studios as well, not to mention that it makes them not fill white characters in movies that shouldn't have white characters like that recent Bruce Lee movie.

[plastroncafe]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the best movies to come out of Marvel Properties have been the ones that took chances, with Black Panther being the most recent installment to break from the formula and try new things.

The greater the risk, the greater the reward.
But you've got to be prepared for failure.

[ranger_scout]

It was an excellent film. I loved seeing the African culture and the technology of Wakanda was outstanding. The fight scenes and car chases were very action-packed along with the final battle. Disney parks could do some amazing things with attractions based on this film. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't see it in 3-D because the special effects would've looked amazing. If I have the opportunity to go again, then maybe I'll do that.

[TurtleTitan97]

Just got back from seeing it. It was truly fantastic. Killmonger has the best theme music out of all the Marvel villains so far, imo.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the best movies to come out of Marvel Properties have been the ones that took chances, with Black Panther being the most recent installment to break from the formula and try new things.

Did it really break formula? We had the "prove you're worthy!" thing recycled from both Thor 1 and Thor 3 as well as the tried-and-true "the hero must fight a doppleganger at the end" from like, every MCU solo movie.

What's radically different is the setting and "feel." I liked when things got kind of Mission Impossible-esque around the middle, though even that we could say was sort of recycled from Ant-Man.

[dl316bh]

Did it really break formula?
Haven't seen it yet, but it does sound like "bend the formula" is a better choice of words for it, given the things you mention. "Fight the evil doppleganger" is probably the most annoying thing they still do. That kind of villain is cool - it's half of Venoms appeal in his earliest appearances - but it feels like all they do.

[Shark_Blade]

So Black Panther broke many box office records
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/19/black-panther-all-the-box-office-records-it-broke-and-almost-broke-in-its-235m-debut/#310efaa01ba4

[Sumac]

Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther - all properties that are normally out of view of general public were made into successful movies. I like it very much.

[plastroncafe]

It holds up on repeat viewings. I daresay I think I enjoyed it more second time than I did the first time.

Today I went with some friends and their second grade daughter. She said it was the best superhero movie she had seen next to Wonder Woman. So I sent her a picture of one of the actresses who happened to have been in both.
She was so happy.

[Leolead]

This was an excellent movie. One of the best in the MCU. Already seen it twice. Seeing it one more time this weekend

[Shark_Blade]

Well now...

‘BLACK PANTHER' Ranked As Best Movie Of All Time By Rotten Tomatoes
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/02/20/black-panther-ranked-best-movie-all-time-rotten-tomatoes/

[Autbot_Benz]

Just saw this movie ****ing fantastic visual music story it was all a blast

[XERO]

Michael B. Jordan (the guy who played Killmonger) was the best part about this movie. He is truly becoming one of my favorite actors. I've followed his career since he was Wallace in The Wire, and he always knocked whatever role he played out of the park.

I honestly don't see anyone else who could've played Killmonger. He definitely is one of the best villains established in the MCU. The movie itself was a blast to watch, but this was just the icing on the cake.

I am really hyped for Infinity War. 10 years in the making. It's insane.

[Andrew NDB]

Michael B. Jordan (the guy who played Killmonger) was the best part about this movie. He is truly becoming one of my favorite actors. I've followed his career since he was Wallace in The Wire, and he always knocked whatever role he played out of the park.

I honestly don't see anyone else who could've played Killmonger. He definitely is one of the best villains established in the MCU. The movie itself was a blast to watch, but this was just the icing on the cake.

I think he'll be fairly forgettable in the big picture, fast forward a couple of years. I like Jordan, but he came off a bit fey here.

Very much looking forward to Creed II, though! Holy sh**... Drago and Drago Jr. in the mix? I'm beyond down.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Just saw this and it was awesome.

[raph27]

Finally saw this last night. Solid movie, enjoyed it a lot.

I can't place my finger on why, but the tone and feel of the movie was different from the other MCU films. That was a good thing for me, made it stand out.

Loved the soundtrack and the whole movie was visually beautiful. Marvel has been stepping it up with GOTG Vol. 2, Ragnarok, and now BP. Especially impressed by the car chase in Korea. I keep hearing complaints about the CGI, but I personally didn't notice anything too bad. I'll probably notice it on the Blu-ray, that's usually where the bad CGI shows through. (Opening scene of Age of Ultron does not hold up IMO.)

Some great new characters in this movie too. Shuri, Klaue, and Erik specifically. Especially Erik, who's one of my favorite MCU villains, up there with Vulture and Kingpin.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I liked it for some of the same reasons. I think the difference comes down to it being more grounded and self-contained, with more subtle effects. It felt more "real" in some ways. But it still fits nicely into the MCU. Visually stunning and the costumes- WOW!

[Shark_Blade]

I've seen this movie 4 times now and also got the movie soudtrack. I'm obsessed lol! :tlol:

Here's my Okoye fanart WIP:
Booyah! Now for some shadow inking and later on coloring shading! :tlove:

https://i.imgur.com/wkOhinu.jpg

[ProactiveMan]

I saw this last weekend - I think it's the best Marvel movie in years, everyone in it was good (maybe not Martin Freeman), and Coogler took it seriously so it actually felt like a classic superhero movie and not just another installment of a television show. The only thing that really let it down was that it had to fit in with the MCU, which added a bit of bloat to the story, and caused a couple of potential problems...

...like, it's a good thing that the next movie is Infinity War because the Wakanda tech is so physics deafeningly over the top that it makes everything we've seen so far look pointless in comparison. In a self-contained movie I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but in the context of the broader MCU, they may have gone a tad too far.

The other important question the movie raised for me was; during the ceremony at the beginning, how did all the spectators get out onto those cliffs without spoiling their clothes?

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther fans keep bothering the people of Wauconda, Illinois
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/02/23/black-panther-fans-keep-bothering-people-wauconda-illinois/

Residents of a small American village have been left baffled and bemused by prank calls from people claiming to have discovered the home of superhero Black Panther.

Also known as T'Challa, the Marvel hero is king of a fictional African country of Wakanda – outwardly ordinary, but secretly home to an El Dorado-esque kingdom, hidden from the outside world and rich in a fantastical mineral called Vibranium.

Wauconda (pronounced "Wakanda"), Illinois, certainly fits the "outwardly ordinary" part. Until now, the village was best known for its swampy bog (a nature park) and its annual two-day rodeo. But since the new Black Panther movie hit cinemas – where it has taken almost $500 million at the box office – fans have been calling up to ask where they can get their hands on some Vibranium.

"At first, I was like, is there a full moon out?" Alise Homola, an assistant to the village mayor, told the Hollywood Reporter. Homola, who has not seen the film, said her office had received both phone-calls and mail from fans of the film. "Someone called and asked how we pronounced the village name and when I told him, he began yelling, 'Wakanda forever!' which I am guessing is from the film," she said.

Speaking to the Chicago Sun Times, Homola said she was "a little confused" the first time some phoned up to holler the Wakanda battle-cry at her down the phone. “He was joking around about it,’’ she said. “He just said that ‘I was searching the Wakanda from the movie, and your village came up, so I thought I’d call you and give you a hard time.’

Dan Klett, principal of the local high school, told the office there had been requests to change the school mascot from a bulldog to a Black Panther.

Earlier today, a waggish Wikipedia editor updated the online encyclopedia to include King T'Challa among a list of famous local residents.

Wauconda may not be home to a hidden kingdom, but it does have a Hollywood connection: part of the climactic chase scene for 1980 comedy The Blues Brothers was filmed in the village.

Lol wish I could visit Wakanda. :lol:

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And I did it! :D

Clicky (https://turbotails06.deviantart.com/art/General-Okoye-732732290?ga_submit_new=10%3A1519566461&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1)

https://i.imgur.com/sY9valX.jpg (https://turbotails06.deviantart.com/art/General-Okoye-732732290?ga_submit_new=10%3A1519566461&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1)


https://i.imgur.com/GUJVLZM.jpg (https://turbotails06.deviantart.com/art/General-Okoye-732732290?ga_submit_new=10%3A1519566461&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1)

After having a prolonged art block, this movie really got me back into drawing again. :tlove: I feel great. Thank God, I'm grateful.

[Shark_Blade]

Box Office: 'Black Panther' Tops $700M With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/25/box-office-black-panther-tops-700m-with-record-breaking-2nd-weekend/#960d220213fe

[Mayhem]

Was hoping to see this tomorrow, but may depend on snowmageddon here in the UK...! :o

[Krutch]

Just got back from seeing it, finally.

...That was it?

I mean, it was okay, but dear Lord the hype for this is out of control. It doesn't even crack the top half of Marvel movies for me.

It was alright but... geez.. Sloppy action scenes, bad CG, poor plotting (You can almost cut out the entire first hour for a tighter story)... It's a 7/10 for me. 6, possibly.

I liked alot of the themes that were addressed, and liked how it never came off as preachy. I also liked Killmonger, which is a rare feat for Marvel villains, so kudos for that.

But yeah other than a few highpoints here and there... meh. Probably will only watch it again once the curtain call has eventually dropped on this Universe and I want to relive the entire experience.

Sidenote: So, uh... where was Captain America?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Cap? Why would he be there? I think you mean Bucky. They supposedly have him "on ice" there, but he was only mentioned once (not by name) and never shown.

[Vegita-San]

...That was it?

I mean, it was okay, but dear Lord the hype for this is out of control. It doesn't even crack the top half of Marvel movies for me.

It was alright but... geez.. Sloppy action scenes, bad CG, poor plotting (You can almost cut out the entire first hour for a tighter story)... It's a 7/10 for me. 6, possibly.



How DARE you criticize a master of progressiveness that is this movie? ;o)....maybe there are reasons why they won't let this movie stand on it's own as just a fun adventure, and are trying to prop it up in other ways.
ugh.

I'll probably wind up seeing this. I liked his performance as the character in Civil War. but like with thor 3, I think I'll wait till it hits Amazon. Thor 3 was enjoyable, but it felt so different from the other thor movies, that it felt like two different people where making that movie.

hope marvel isn't loosing its way

[plastroncafe]

Sidenote: So, uh... where was Captain America?

The movie takes place a week after after T'Chaka's death, so cap would be rescuing the other Avengers from the raft.

Bucky was supposed to be kept on ice, but as we see Shuri had other ideas.

[AT-Man]

Cap? Why would he be there? I think you mean Bucky. They supposedly have him "on ice" there, but he was only mentioned once (not by name) and never shown.

Didn't you watch the scene after the credits?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oh, you mean the second one? Yeah forgot about that.

[Shark_Blade]

This is too precious. :cry:

expKmfdoo28

[plastroncafe]

I'm so impressed that none of those people just started swearing profusely, because...that's what I'd do.

[Spike Spiegel]

I finally saw this today with my family.

It's not the second coming or anything, but it handles its material well, and I liked Killmonger. Sure, he's absolutely wrong in his actions, but the film really made you understand why. Unlike a lot of modern capes#it, the film showed us the themes instead of telling us.

Coogler is clearly someone who understands the language of movies and respects the audience. The first third or so was a fantastic James Bond pastiche. The Oakland flashbacks reminded me of the more intense sequences from movies like Menace II Society without being overly dramatic or cheesy. The dream/mystical sequences should have been par for the course for a movie like this, but even that felt fresh.

It's kind of like this year's Wonder Woman, where it's a highly original and well-made superhero film that's part of a tightly connected chain of mediocre-to-good ones. Here's hoping the inevitable sequels to both of them don't suck.

Now to track down some Marvel Masterworks of the "Jungle Action" stories from the '70s and possibly rewatch the Panther-centric episodes of Earth's Mightiest Heroes...

[Shark_Blade]

'Black Panther' Reaches Nearly $900 Million at Worldwide Box Office

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/04/black-panther-box-office-international/

Black Panther had another powerful weekend at the international box office, grossing an additional $56.2 million in its third weekend. The film has opened in approximately 86 percent of international markets.

Black Panther has now grossed $396.6 million in international markets. Combined with the film’s new $501.1 million domestic total, Black Panther now has a worldwide gross of $897.7 million.

Black Panther is on track to become the fifth Marvel Cinematic Universe movie to cross $900 million worldwide, following The Avengers which totaled $1.52 billion, Avengers: Age of Ultron with $1.4 billion, Iron Man 3 with $1.2 billion, and Captain America: Civil War at $1.15 billion.

Black Panther has yet to open in China and in just three weeks has already become the 47th highest grossing film ever worldwide.

Black Panther opened wide in Russia on February 26th and has earned $12.9 million since then, surpassing the lifetime totals of Ant-Man, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, and Justice League in the market. Black Panther became the top western opening in Japan, earning $4.2 million.

Despite heavy winter storms in the region, Black Panther’s European weekend totals dropped only about 37 percent from last week’s totals. The Asia-Pacific markets saw a decline of 53 percent. Latin America dipped 36 percent and Black Panther remained at number one in all markets.

Black Panther will open in China, its biggest potential international market, next weekend.

The United Kingdom and South Korea continue to be Black Panther’s strongest international markets. The film has earned $49.1 million in the UK and $41.4 million in South Korea. Brazil, Australia, Mexico, and France have all been strong markets as well, with box office totals of over $20 million in each for Black Panther.

At the domestic box office, Black Panther is now the second-highest grossing Marvel Cinematic Universe movie of all time behind only The Avengers and the 10th highest grossing movie of all time in general.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Just finally saw the movie and I gotta say....

Black Panther was pretty darn good. I like him more than Batman! Yes I said it!

[Andrew NDB]

Black Panther was pretty darn good. I like him more than Batman! Yes I said it!

Black Panther definitely wasn't better than any one of the Nolan trilogy films.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

No I meant I like him as a superhero over Batman.

[Shark_Blade]

The way I see it, Black Panther is far superior than any Nolan Batman films. Trapping the whole police force in the sewer for days/weeks and they couldn't find any way out? Lmao what silliness sounds like a childish cartoon plot. They're overrated anyway.

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February Box Office Hits All-Time Record Of $1 Billion Fueled By ‘Black Panther’
http://deadline.com/2018/03/black-panther-february-box-office-1202311491/

[Spike Spiegel]

Nolan's Batman flicks are competently realized and skillfully made, but they are comic book movies for people who are too pretentious to admit to reading any superhero comics besides something like Watchmen.

I think there's also a distinct possibility that they laid the groundwork for everything people claim to hate about the DCEU.

[Vegita-San]

One of my favorite lines regarding this movie, that I heard on YT somewhere, I Think...paraphrasing a bit..

'Black Panther... everyone's FAVORITE super hero lately for some reason...'


I wonder how long the popularity will last... or, if he'll fade back into being a guest character.. Is it just the phenomena/current hot thing people are responding too, or does the character have legs to become a heavy hitter?

[Spike Spiegel]

One of my favorite lines regarding this movie, that I heard on YT somewhere, I Think...paraphrasing a bit..

'Black Panther... everyone's FAVORITE super hero lately for some reason...'


I wonder how long the popularity will last... or, if he'll fade back into being a guest character.. Is it just the phenomena/current hot thing people are responding to[], or does the character have legs to become a heavy hitter?

I think the real impact is going to be on the young kids and teens who saw it, and whether or not he becomes the symbolic savior of black representation in American movies that everyone is saying he is. Will Gen Z remember him in the same way my generation remembers Static, Blade, or John Stewart as the Green Lantern? Finding that out is going to take a few years.They're the next crop of 18-35s who will determine if the industry handles seeing diverse heroes, actors, etc. in big-budget mainstream films as something normal rather than an occasional event.

What we're seeing now is a classic case of Marvelitis--___________________ is the greatest superhero movie ever, blows everything DC ever did out of the water, blah blah blah (at least until Avengers 3 comes out).

[Barkworm]

Black Panther definitely wasn't better than any one of the Nolan trilogy films.
I haven't seen Black Panther but are you looking at the Nolan Batmen as the holy grail of superhero films or are you speaking from a technical point of view? Because story-wise the first and third one are entertaining but overall dumb and super pretentious.

[ProphetofGanja]

I haven't seen Black Panther but are you looking at the Nolan Batmen as the holy grail of superhero films or are you speaking from a technical point of view? Because story-wise the first and third one are entertaining but overall dumb and super pretentious.

I mean if we're being real then, all Batman media is dumb, and often pretentious; it's saving grace is that it's fun and/or cool.

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly people get too carried away with the hype, or throw politics into it. I didn't expect Black Panther to be the second coming or to change my life. I came in expecting a good Marvel film, and I got a good Marvel film that I just had to see twice. I loved it. I'll buy it on Blur-Ray day one. But I'm not going to be demanding it be at the Oscars.

[Warhorse]

Kevin Feige (President of Marvel Studios) Says Black Panther is the MCU’s Best Movie to Date
https://screenrant.com/black-panther-best-mcu-movie-kevin-feige/

Kevin Feige believes Black Panther is the best Marvel Cinematic Universe movie to date. When Marvel Studios began, Kevin Feige was put in charge of the operation. Thanks to his long-term vision, knowledge of the source material, and passion to make something unique, the MCU is celebrating its 10th anniversary this year. The celebration comes in an incredibly important year for the universe. Yes, Thanos is finally coming to battle all the heroes the MCU has to offer, but Black Panther kicks off the year, and is doing so in grand fashion.

Once again, Marvel Studios has secured a movie that certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. It has also been one of their most talked about movies, which has led to high levels of anticipation. Just looking at the film’s incredible number of ticket pre-sales, it was poised to be big, and now the box office is already reflecting that. All of this is happening to a film many are raving about, including Marvel Studios’ head honcho.

ABC News spoke to several people involved with Black Panther including Kevin Feige. In the conversation, Feige revealed his thoughts on the final product and recalled his immediate reaction when seeing the final product with director Ryan Coogler.

The movie finished and I looked over at Ryan and I said, ‘That’s the best movie we’ve ever made.’

Black Panther Mid credits scene Kevin Feige Says Black Panther is the MCUs Best Movie to Date
It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Feige is happy with the final product, but this is some incredibly high praise. He typically isn’t one to over-hype a movie just to sell tickets, and since this was his immediate reaction, it says a lot. While not everyone is going to agree with Black Panther being the best – and it may take time for it to fall in its rightful place in the pantheon of MCU movies – Feige certainly isn’t alone in this thinking.

When it comes to naming the best MCU movie, there are a few that are typically associated as the best. Both Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Captain America: Civil War are highly regarded, and more likely than not top the ‘Best Of’ lists for most. However, there’s also The Avengers, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy that each have their own loyal supporters, and rightfully so. There’s even some that put Ant-Man in this top tier, if not at the very top, just because of how fun it was. Black Panther in many ways is the best combination of several MCU movies. It has an outstanding villain, a stellar cast, looks beautiful, great action, the right amount of humor and drama, and so on. As the MCU continues on, there’s still time for Feige and company to make something that is even greater. But if not, Black Panther is a darn good movie to stand above the rest.

He has a right to his opinion, but in my opinion, I still think The Winter Soldier and the first Iron-Man are better.

[Warhorse]

The way I see it, Black Panther is far superior than any Nolan Batman films. Trapping the whole police force in the sewer for days/weeks and they couldn't find any way out? Lmao what silliness sounds like a childish cartoon plot. They're overrated anyway.

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February Box Office Hits All-Time Record Of $1 Billion Fueled By ‘Black Panther’
http://deadline.com/2018/03/black-panther-february-box-office-1202311491/

But yet, you buy that the most advanced country in the world has gone undetected from the outside world for thousands of years, in a galaxy that has Gods, and yet, they needed a little CIA guy to tell them who Kilmonger was despite them having spies all over the world. :lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Well I seriously doubt he was on their radar until that museum heist. He was going low profile up til then. And they stayed hidden BECAUSE they were more advanced- thus better able to hide behind false facades.

[Shark_Blade]

But yet, you buy that the most advanced country in the world has gone undetected from the outside world for thousands of years, in a galaxy that has Gods, and yet, they needed a little CIA guy to tell them who Kilmonger was despite them having spies all over the world. :lol:
You do know their "gods" cannot harm nor benefit anyone, right? So weird you'd put it in this discussion. You actually entertain the thought they could? Sad.

You expect spies to know everything? Lol stop doing drugs mkay.

Well I seriously doubt he was on their radar until that museum heist. He was going low profile up til then. And they stayed hidden BECAUSE they were more advanced- thus better able to hide behind false facades.
Ditto. I like this logical thought process rather than thinking spies would've know everything.

Heck if spies know everything, we would've known about Osama bin Laden's location in a short time, or Trump's Russia collusion proof in just a second.

[AquaParade]

I'm glad to hear Kevin say that. It must be creatively inspiring when you feel you keep improving.

I hope he feels the same about Infinity War part 1 when it's complete.

[Shark_Blade]

Speaking of Nolan:


Christopher Nolan Thinks 'Black Panther' Will Get a Best Picture Oscar Nomination
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/07/black-panther-oscar-best-picture-christopher-nolan/

Disney has huge plans to follow up the success of Black Panther by campaigning the film for next year's Academy Awards, and one prominent director thinks the movie has a chance at breaking the glass ceiling.

While speaking with Deadline at the Governors Ball after-party, Dunkirk director Christopher Nolan predicted that Black Panther would be nominated for Best Picture at 2019's ceremonies.

Nolan put modern superhero films on the map with his trilogy of Batman films, specifically The Dark Knight which was famously snubbed for the top nomination at the 2009 Academy Awards. The following year, the Academy put 10 films forward for the nomination of Best Picture, compared to five film pool that was the previous standard.

If Black Panther has any chance to be nominated, it's likely due to Nolan's seminal film that earned Heath Ledger a post-humous award for Best Supporting Actor as the Joker.

The report goes on to mention that a Disney executive confirmed plans to campaign for Black Panther come award season, as well as another upcoming film that fans just got their first look at on the night of the ceremony.

Mary Poppins Returns will also be up for award voters' consideration, as Disney seems to be very pleased with director Rob Marshall's film. Executives are reportedly thrilled with Emily Blunt's role as the title character, the performance of Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda, and the new songs in the film.

It seems like Disney will have double the chances for their Oscar intentions, though it remains to be seen how Academy voters will receive those films. There were some rumblings about Get Out not being perceived as deserving of the accolades by older voters, though the film went on to get writer and director Jordan Peele his first Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay.

Superhero moves tend to fly under the radar at the Oscars. Though they're nominated in categories such as Visual Effects or Sound Editing, they are rarely considered for the "prestigious" awards, with the rare exception being Ledger's win.

The last superhero movie to win an Academy Award happened last year, when Suicide Squad won for Best Makeup and Hairstyling, given to Alessandro Bertolazzi, Giorgio Gregorini, and Christopher Nelson.

:tgrin: :tthumbsu: :tthumbsu: :tthumbsu: :tthumbsu:

[raph27]

No way this gets nominated for Best Picture. I was shocked when Logan got nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay this time around, and that was one of the few superhero movies that I thought could be considered for an Oscar.

Now Hair and Makeup and/or Costume Design I could definitely see a nomination or even a win. But none of the big awards.

[Redeemer]

No way this gets nominated for Best Picture. I was shocked when Logan got nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay this time around, and that was one of the few superhero movies that I thought could be considered for an Oscar.

Now Hair and Makeup and/or Costume Design I could definitely see a nomination or even a win. But none of the big awards.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was nominated especially with special interest group pushing this movie.

[Shark_Blade]

I don't care what category, they must at least win an Oscar. :lol:

Logan and Wonder Woman were robbed though. Don't know if it's true but I read on news sites that the judges are pretty much terrible (like not seeing certain films (especially animated ones) despite judging said category, racism, sexism, etc) so... I hope it'll turn out well in the end regardless.

No wonder Oscar's tv rating plummeted to unprecedented level this year tbh.

[Andrew NDB]

Logan and Wonder Woman were robbed though.

Of what Oscars, though?

[RaphaelinSTL]

Saw it today and found it to be a tad overrated. Oh well.

[Autbot_Benz]

Of what Oscars, though?

Logan was nominated for best adapted screenplay

[Shark_Blade]

‘Black Panther’ Hits $1 Billion Mark In Worldwide Box Office Numbers

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-panther-billion-dollars-top-domestic_us_5a9ef739e4b002df2c5e6fd7

https://i.imgur.com/ftFuY3W.jpg

“Black Panther” has surpassed $1 billion at the worldwide box office, challenging industry norms about films with black casts.

The Marvel blockbuster passed the major benchmark on Friday, Forbes reports.

The film is now the United States’ ninth highest-grossing film of all time, and had the second-largest four-day domestic opening weekend. “Black Panther” brought in $242 million in the U.S. over Presidents Day weekend, behind the $288 million “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” made when it opened in 2015.

The international success of “Black Panther” has challenged the myth that films with predominantly black casts don’t sell ― and it helps unravel “unwritten Hollywood rules,” Jeff Bock, a senior analyst at entertainment research firm Exhibitor Relations, told The New York Times.

“I think about it like a wall crumbling,” Bock said. “In terms of ‘Black Panther,’ no studio can say again, ’Oh, black movies don’t travel, overseas interest will be minimal.’”

Stars of the film, including Chadwick Boseman, Lupita Nyong’o and Danai Gurira, have spoken out about the importance of representation in the movie. “Black Panther,” which is set in the fictional country of Wakanda, shows the possibilities of an African society untouched by colonialism and gender inequity.

“I think there’s a thirst for these images,” Boseman told NBC. “There’s a real thirst for black superheroes.”

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige confirmed this week that a “Black Panther” sequel is in the works. Feige told Entertainment Weekly that there was “nothing specific to reveal” about the next movie but added that “we absolutely will do that.”

[Vegita-San]

Saw it today and found it to be a tad overrated. Oh well.

kind of what people I know are saying too.

That's the problem when SJW's can't let a movie just be a movie. people expect opera and it's just another Super hero movie. Not great but not bad.

I eventually plan on seeing it. hopefully in the theater. just havn't found the time yet.

[Autbot_Benz]

kind of what people I know are saying too.

That's the problem when SJW's can't let a movie just be a movie. people expect opera and it's just another Super hero movie. Not great but not bad.

I eventually plan on seeing it. hopefully in the theater. just havn't found the time yet.

What does SJW's have to do with black panther? This movie is a big deal because its a movie for the African American community. Primary black cast and black director

[Candy Kappa]

What does SJW's have to do with black panther?

It's vegita, I'd be surprised if the didn't use "sjw" in a negative connotation one way or another in his posts.

[plastroncafe]

I'm starting to think that they've got a SJW button on their keyboard, and that every time it's used it's a typo.

[TigerClaw]

It's still #1 at the Box Office.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4378&p=.htm

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, it's crossing 1.1 billion now.

Where are all the people talking about "there's superhero movie fatigue going on!" now?

[Sumac]

Yeah, it's crossing 1.1 billion now.

Where are all the people talking about "there's superhero movie fatigue going on!" now?
They will return when another DC movie will fail.
As they usually do. :P

[sdp]

Yeah, it's crossing 1.1 billion now.

Where are all the people talking about "there's superhero movie fatigue going on!" now?

I haven't seen it but from what I've read it's a mix of it being a refreshing take, it being a black cast without any Hollywood race bending to make it "marketable" and overall word of mouth.

I also doubt Wonder Woman was as amazing as some made it out to be but finally having a competent female superhero film is what brought it to make the money it did. It's the way of people saying "I want more of this".

And in this case I don't think it means they want more superheroes, there's a reason Thor 3 didn't break any records. Look at Logan and Deadpool, they did things different as well. If superhero movies can continue to do this which I doubt then yeah the superhero genre can last a little longer but come on, no movie genre has dominated like this for too long or we'd still have westerns released all the time in theaters today.

Then again, I predicted Superhero fatigue to hit after the first Avengers :lol: I'm also usually incorrect when it comes to Box Office predictions :lol: It's not a market I care to understand or research and I just use my knowledge in other markets to predict. But I swear, everytime I hear more and more "casual" people talk about how they're getting tired of them.

Marvel movies have become "events" and I'm not so sure they'll be able to continue with the same formula after Avengers 3/4 (since 3 is a lead in to 4 right?). Marvel knows this which is why they've said plenty of times that "there won't be a "phase 4" and that it'd be a "new Marvel CU" after Thanos etc.

I mean, I love superheroes, likely more than the average dolt who goes to the movies to watch them and I'm getting tired of them. Same with the TV shows, I was a huge fan of Arrow's first season and wanted more, then I got more, and more and more, and now I find it a hassle to watch through all those superhero shows on my backlog.

What does SJW's have to do with black panther?

There's definitely some SJW BS with this like "if you review this badly you're racist" or whatever but it's mostly minor and not the reason the movie is a success which some people are trying to make it out to be even if it isn't.

[Andrew NDB]

there's a reason Thor 3 didn't break any records.

It didn't?

https://www.thewrap.com/thor-ragnarok-box-office-122-million-opening/

http://www.ibtimes.com/thor-ragnarok-breaks-record-after-raking-1076m-international-box-office-2607829

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2017/10/thor-ragnarok-breaks-2017-nz-box-office-records.html

http://deadline.com/2017/11/thor-ragnarok-china-weekend-results-international-box-office-1202202193/

https://www.cbr.com/thor-ragnarok-record-breaking-views/

[Vegita-San]

thor 3 might not have been from fatigue....but just from it being a bit of a mess of a movie.


IF they had eliminated half the humor....dr.mcoy's character.. and goldblume, I think it would have been a much better movie.

[Autbot_Benz]

thor 3 might not have been from fatigue....but just from it being a bit of a mess of a movie.


IF they had eliminated half the humor....dr.mcoy's character.. and goldblume, I think it would have been a much better movie.

I disagree Goldblum's character was great. The Grandmaster is a big part of the comics he is the brother of the Collector from GOTG. Also Skurge who was played by dr mccoy is another character from Thor's universe.

[ProphetofGanja]

thor 3 might not have been from fatigue....but just from it being a bit of a mess of a movie.


IF they had eliminated half the humor....dr.mcoy's character.. and goldblume, I think it would have been a much better movie.

Yeah, you basically just listed several of the reasons why this movie was so popular and well-received

[Shark_Blade]

'BLACK PANTHER' Passes 'THE DARK KNIGHT' to Become Highest Grossing Solo Superhero Movie Ever at Domestic Box Office
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/11/black-panther-dark-knight-highest-grossing-solo-superhero-movie/

It seems even Batman can’t keep up with Black Panther at the box office.

Black Panther earned another $41 million at the box office this weekend, bringing the film’s domestic box office total to $562 million. That’s enough to surpass the box office total of The Dark Knight, $534 million, to become the seventh-highest grossing movie ever at the domestic box office and the highest grossing solo superhero movie of all time.

Black Panther now only has to surpass Marvel’s The Avengers with $623.4 million to become the highest grossing superhero movie of all time at the domestic box office and the fifth highest grossing movie of all time.

Between Black Panther and The Avengers is Star Wars: The Last Jedi, which is currently the sixth highest grossing film of all time with $619.5 million. Some analysts project that Black Panther’s box office could climb high enough to surpass Jurassic World, $652.3 million, and Titanic, $659.4 million, to become the third highest grossing movie of all time at the domestic box office.

If Black Panther does achieve such heights, its time in the spotlight may be short-lived. Avengers: Infinity War is nearing release and early box office projections are strong, meaning it could overtake even Black Panther. Mark Millar, the writer of Civil War and other top-selling comics for Marvel, thinks Black Panther has Infinity War beat.

"I'm going to make a bold, crazy prediction and you can giggle all you want: But I think Black Panther is going to outgross Avengers: Infinity War," Millar tweeted. "I can feel it in my BONES"

Black Panther has also been dominating the box office outside of North America. The film just opened in China with a $66.5 million opening weekend. Black Panther has earned more than $1 billion dollars globally in less than a month in theaters, an impressive feat for any movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Just saw it... This really lived up to the hype. Felt way more serious than a typical marvel movie, too, which I loved. Instant buy when it releases to home media.

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther first film since Avatar to remain #1 for five weeks

https://www.destructoid.com/black-panther-first-film-since-avatar-to-remain-1-for-five-weeks-494958.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Shark_Blade]

'Black Panther' Breaks Yet Another Record By Making Twitter History
https://www.forbes.com/sites/careypurcell/2018/03/20/black-panther-breaks-yet-another-record-by-making-twitter-history/amp/

Black Panther, the Marvel Universe movie sensation, has shattered seemingly endless records, including being the first movie since Avatar to top the weekend box office five weeks in a row. Along with earning the distinctions of being the biggest launch of a single superhero of all time and the biggest opening weekend for a film that is not a sequel, the comic-book bombshell can add yet another feather to its cap: having inspired more than 35 million tweets, Black Panther is the most tweeted-about movie of all time.

Twitter reports that the Ryan Coogler-directed superhero story has surpassed Avengers: Infinity War and Star Wars: The Last Jedi andis the top-tweeted movie of 2018.

Before the movie was even released, Twitter was flooded with the hashtag #WhatBlackPantherMeansToMe. Attendees of early screenings flooded social media with their praise, and the posts continued when the movie was released. The United States tops the tally of countries, followed by the United Kingdom and Thailand.

With a domestic gross of $605.4 million and a worldwide gross of $1.1 billion, Black Panther has been credited with shattering the idea that movies by and about black people cannot draw a crowd – a misconception that many Hollywood bigwigs have refused to disavow, despite the high number of commercially successful films driven by black people in the past.

While the movie’s success has remained solid for five weeks following its release, the most-tweeted days were the three following its February 16 release: February 18, 17 and 19. The top three hashtags associated with the film are #BlackPanther, #WakandaForever and #Wakanda.

Love for the Wakanda and its residents was abundant on social media, with everyone from Kendrick Lamar to Michelle Obama tweeting about the film. Lamar’s post, which shared the date the movie’s soundtrack dropped was the most retweeted tweet, with the former First Lady praising the film’s representation was third. (The second-most retweeted tweet featured a pair of people – unsuccessfully – attempting to buy one ticket for the two of them.)

The best-reviewed live-action superhero film on Rotten Tomatoes, beating The Dark Knight and Iron Man, Black Panther has been praised for its diversity and representation, including the portrayal of women as funny as well as fierce and strong.

With its unequivocal success, future franchise opportunities for Black Panther are inevitable. and possibilities for more hashtags are endless.

[Shark_Blade]

"Black Panther" is less than $18 million shy of passing "The Avengers" as the highest-grossing superhero movie of all time.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/black-panther-buries-tomb-raider-spends-5th-week/story?id=53850251

Avengers, sweetie.. I love y’all but Imma go support my homeboy T’challa and see this one more time.

[Redeemer]

I am glad this movie has done so well. Hopefully this will open the door for more lesser known super heroes such as Static Shock or a Blue Beetle movie.

But I have to say this movie is way over-rated. This movie is not on the same level as Dark Knight or some of the other super hero movies its passing. Its a good movie, but I don't feel like its earth shattering in terms of story telling. Its amazing how well this movie is doing financially. Hopefully the sequel will be just as good, hopefully even better.

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther Just Beat Avengers to Become the Highest-Grossing Superhero Movie in U.S. Box Office History
https://io9.gizmodo.com/black-panther-just-beat-avengers-to-become-the-highest-1824050248

Wakanda forever.

Although estimates indicate Black Panther’s historic 5-week run at the top of the US box office ended this weekend with Pacific Rim Uprising taking the top slot, T’Challa claimed another crown in the process. Black Panther has pulled in an estimated $630.9 million as of this weekend so far, pipping 2012's Avengers to become the highest grossing superhero movie in U.S. history (Not accounting for inflation).

It’s the latest in a string of records the movie has taken since it launched last month, and it’s not just domestically that Black Panther is soaring. Globally the film has now pulled in just over $1.2 billion, and by the end of the weekend is expected to surpass Iron Man 3 to become the third-highest grossing comic book movie worldwide—only surpassed by Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Black Panther’s cinematic success means so much more than oodles of cash for Marvel—its loud, proud proof that diverse blockbuster can’t just succeed, but become some of the biggest films in history. Let’s hope an era of diverse, brilliant blockbuster films is just beginning.

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It’s what they deserve. uwu :tlove:

[Coola Yagami]

I am glad this movie has done so well. Hopefully this will open the door for more lesser known super heroes such as Static Shock or a Blue Beetle movie.

But I have to say this movie is way over-rated. This movie is not on the same level as Dark Knight or some of the other super hero movies its passing. Its a good movie, but I don't feel like its earth shattering in terms of story telling. Its amazing how well this movie is doing financially. Hopefully the sequel will be just as good, hopefully even better.

To be fair, The Dark Knight was barely a superhero movie. It was more of a crime drama with Batman in it. It took things to such realistic extents that ironically the most cartoonish thing in there was the guy dressed as a bat.

I'd say more of a comic book movie, like The Crow was a comic book movie. But a superhero movie? Just barely.

[ZariusTwo]

Wakanda forever.

THIS is why it's earning the box office it has. B.S socio-political statements like this, not what it can achieve on it's own merits.

It's still a good film, just not the kind of movie that could command the box office it has now in a more dialed back world.

[ranger_scout]

Black Panther's North American box-office total has just surpassed Jurassic World. And that's not all. Its worldwide total has now surpassed Frozen to become the 10th highest grossing film of all-time. I really don't think anyone could've predicted before the release that these moments happening.

http://deadline.com/2018/04/black-panther-passes-jurassic-world-domestically-frozen-globally-box-office-1202357565/

[Redeemer]

To be fair, The Dark Knight was barely a superhero movie. It was more of a crime drama with Batman in it. It took things to such realistic extents that ironically the most cartoonish thing in there was the guy dressed as a bat.

I'd say more of a comic book movie, like The Crow was a comic book movie. But a superhero movie? Just barely.
Are you high???? :lol: You had a criminal who was just a complete psycho path wanting to kill every and eventually wanted to prove his ideological ideas (Like in many superhero stories). Then you have a villain named two-face with a completely over the top appearance .....and you say Batman was the most cartoonish thing in it???? :lol: get out of here haha. The movie uses Neorealism to keep the movie grounded, but it is a super-hero movie unless it was reclassified as something else when I wasn't looking :lol:

I do understand what your getting at, Dark Knight is not a over-the top super-hero movie like Guardians or Thor, but it is still a super-hero movie.

THIS is why it's earning the box office it has. B.S socio-political statements like this, not what it can achieve on it's own merits.

It's still a good film, just not the kind of movie that could command the box office it has now in a more dialed back world.

I completely agree. This movie is good, but it is breaking records bc of its politics not because of its merits as a quality movie. I am wondering if the sequel will be as successful, hopefully it is as good if not better quality wise.

[Vegita-San]

i still have yet to see it.

DOES the movie have politics in it, or is it just the stupid people of our world trying to make it a political thing, rather than let the thing stand on it's own merits?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

i still have yet to see it.

DOES the movie have politics in it, or is it just the stupid people of our world trying to make it a political thing, rather than let the thing stand on it's own merits?

It has Wakandan politics.

[plastroncafe]

Is there a movie out there that doesn't have politics in it?
Because, I'm trying to think of one, and drawing a blank.

[Autbot_Benz]

i still have yet to see it.

DOES the movie have politics in it, or is it just the stupid people of our world trying to make it a political thing, rather than let the thing stand on it's own merits?

you wouldn't like it it has strong female characters and that might make you uneasy.

[Allio]

Nothing is wrong with a movie with politics in of itself (Ever After High has a Caste System)

It’s just really stupid when you have that vocal minority screaming ____ist when you don’t want to see a movie just because it coincidently has such themes

Which is ironic as the main villain killmonger is literally the extremist type.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Is there a movie out there that doesn't have politics in it?
Because, I'm trying to think of one, and drawing a blank.

We humans are political creatures.

Why on earth would we write politics into movies? Or any art? Art never imitates life.

[plastroncafe]

We humans are political creatures.

Why on earth would we write politics into movies? Or any art? Art never imitates life.

See, I disagree. Art most certainly imitates life, because without life Art has no context and no meaning.

Artists don't create in a vacuum. They, and subsequently their work, are the product of their time.

Sure you can add MORE politics to a thing, but I don't believe there's a such thing as a non-political work.

It's been my experience that people often confuse something that aligns itself with their beliefs as apolitical because it doesn't exist separate from their experiences.

[Jester]

We humans are political creatures.

Why on earth would we write politics into movies? Or any art? Art never imitates life.

See, I disagree. Art most certainly imitates life, because without life Art has no context and no meaning.

Artists don't create in a vacuum. They, and subsequently their work, are the product of their time.

Sure you can add MORE politics to a thing, but I don't believe there's a such thing as a non-political work.

It's been my experience that people often confuse something that aligns itself with their beliefs as apolitical because it doesn't exist separate from their experiences.

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[plastroncafe]

VR9NbvTOfaU

Damnation, I went and took Vagita at his word again, didn't I?

[TurtleWA]

Sure you can add MORE politics to a thing, but I don't believe there's a such thing as a non-political work.

It's been my experience that people often confuse something that aligns itself with their beliefs as apolitical because it doesn't exist separate from their experiences.

I agree, the word “politics” could easily replace the word “beauty” in the phrase “beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” And sometimes art can align very well with political issues. Even if the creator of the art did not have that intent. Or the creator of the art could have inspiration from political issues and want to deliver a message.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

See, I disagree. Art most certainly imitates life, because without life Art has no context and no meaning.

Artists don't create in a vacuum. They, and subsequently their work, are the product of their time.

Sure you can add MORE politics to a thing, but I don't believe there's a such thing as a non-political work.

It's been my experience that people often confuse something that aligns itself with their beliefs as apolitical because it doesn't exist separate from their experiences.

You missed my sarcasm; we agree completely on that. As you said, things that agree with us don't register as easily as things that don't agree with us.

Black Panther represents the most successful popular culture phenomenon in our generation (read, the Marvel Cinematic Universe) giving center stage to someone who isn't a white man (and isn't a white man's ethnic sidekick). Not even to someone singular, but to an entire cast and story. I think that's something to be celebrated. For some reason, some people don't.

[plastroncafe]

You missed my sarcasm; we agree completely on that.

...I TOTALLY DID!
Numfar! Do the dance of shame!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/45/66/6745666ea9e3c024643e7962b8119095.gif

[Vegita-San]

Not even to someone singular, but to an entire cast and story. I think that's something to be celebrated. For some reason, some people don't.

are we forgetting about coming to america?

didn't that also have an entire black cast?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

are we forgetting about coming to america?

didn't that also have an entire black cast?

Black Panther represents the most successful popular culture phenomenon in our generation (read, the Marvel Cinematic Universe) giving center stage to someone who isn't a white man (and isn't a white man's ethnic sidekick). Not even to someone singular, but to an entire cast and story. I think that's something to be celebrated. For some reason, some people don't.

Bold for emphasis.

There have been black superhero films (Blade trilogy) and black casts (as you say, Coming to America). But Black Panther is different in that it is the latest entry in the successful billion-dollar MCU. Ask 10 people on the streets if they've seen the Marvel movies, you can probably get 8 or 9 yes's in reply.

[Andrew NDB]

Bold for emphasis.

There have been black superhero films (Blade trilogy) and black casts (as you say, Coming to America). But Black Panther is different in that it is the latest entry in the successful billion-dollar MCU. Ask 10 people on the streets if they've seen the Marvel movies, you can probably get 8 or 9 yes's in reply.

And "Coming to America" was like 30 years ago now. That there hasn't been anything like it in 30 years is more troubling than it is an example of "See? There are other movies like Black Panther!"

Sidenote: I really, really want a "Coming to America" 2. I'd bet the farm it happens, too, especially now.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/coming-to-america-sequel-kenya-barris-jonathan-levine-1202575019/

[Vegita-San]

there was also one of my favorites, Meteor Man. that sadly didn't get any waves.

[plastroncafe]

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[Shark_Blade]

‘Black Panther’ passes ‘Titanic’ in box office record, becomes third highest-grossing of all time

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/black-panther-passes-titanic-box-office-record-article-1.3922405


“Black Panther” has sunk “Titanic.”

The Marvel superhero has now surpassed $665 million at the domestic box office, putting it ahead of James Cameron’s 1997 flick and its $659.4 million gross income (without accounting for inflation).


That total makes the Ryan Coogler-directed movie the third highest-grossing picture of all time, behind just “The Force Awakens” ($760 million) and “Avatar” ($937 million).

The wild success of “Black Panther,” starring Chadwick Boseman, Michael B. Jordan, Lupita Nyong’o and Angela Bassett, had Marvel Studios co-President Kevin Feige talking about a sequel before the movie even hit theaters.

“Titanic” previously held the No. 3 spot on the best-grossing movies list.

“We always say we work on one movie at a time. If you have any good ideas, put it in the movie you’re making. If you don’t, you might not be able to make another one,” he told Variety in February.

“That said, Panther has been around for more than half a century in the comic books and there are many, many stories to tell.”

By the end of March, “Black Panther” had passed “The Avengers” to become the highest-grossing superhero movie of all time.

—————-

My King is prospering. :tlove:

[Autbot_Benz]

Black Panther is on Digital May 8th and Blu ray May 15th

[raph27]

Damn this movie is still going strong. At this point I'm starting to doubt Infinity War topping it, which is something that would have sounded insane 6 months ago. I wonder if they considered pushing back the home video release so that it would sell more tickets. (Heard a rumor that's what happened with The Greatest Showman.)

EDIT: just kidding, IW was a behemoth and broke every record. What was I thinking?

[Shark_Blade]

7 nominations strong for #BlackPanther* at the @MTVAwards! Wakanda, you know what to do – vote at http://www.mtv.com/movie-and-tv-awards/vote// . #WakandaForever*

-Best Movie
-Best Performance in a Movie
-Best Hero
-Best Villain
-Best Onscreen Team
-Scene Stealer
-Best Fight

https://twitter.com/lupita_nyongo/status/992125518521618433?s=21

[Vegita-San]

First 33 minutes of Black Panther are pretty Captivating. Especially thought the gravel tracking system was a pretty cool idea.


I also like the fact that the lead warrior guard is all business, but has a slight goofiness to her side as well. makes for an interesting character.

[Vegita-San]

Finally got around to the rest.

There are some things I would have left on the editing room floor.

But all in all I liked it ten times better than thor 3, and except for the villain motivation, I am glad they kept it largely political free.

Thor 3 I give a C-. this a Give a B.

[The Deadman]

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[ranger_scout]

How Black Panther Should Have Ended:

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[CyberCubed]

All these youtube meme videos are awful.

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther' Wins Big at The Critics' Choice Awards

https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/01/14/critics-choice-awards-best-visual-effects-winner-2019/

In addition to Best Visual Effects, Black Panther also took home awards for Best Production Design, and Best Costume Design.

[Shark_Blade]

Black Panther is nominated for 7 nominations for the Oscars, including Best Picture! :tlove:

https://variety.com/2019/film/awards/oscars-black-panther-becomes-first-superhero-movie-ever-nominated-for-best-picture-1203113451/amp/#click=https://t.co/3WyiyGFC1a

[ZariusTwo]

Blatant agenda pushing.

[Coola Yagami]

Blatant agenda pushing.

It was a good movie though, unlike suicide squad.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Blatant agenda pushing.

Possibly. Not unearned, though.

I thought the hype and reviews were a lot of overcompensating and "hey we're not racist!" statements. But no, the movie was genuinely that damn good. One of the few MCU movies with a compelling villain.

I don't know about all the Oscar awards, though, I never keep up with that.

And Black Panther's CGI was embarrassingly bad.

[Leo656]

It was a good movie though, unlike suicide squad.

Hardly a relevant statement. Squad won for Best Hair & Makeup, or something, which seems pretty fair. But even those of us who took the movie exactly for what it was and had a good time with it, were never gonna claim it was the "Best" in any other category one could think of.

No super-hero movie is ever the legitimate best movie of its year. I think it happened a few times - like a case could be made for both Batman '89 and Dark Knight being the best films of their respective years - but they weren't given credit for it. Nothing since then has genuinely been able to make a case for being the best movie of its year.

They've gotten better, mostly, but they're still not "real" movies.

[AT-Man]

And Black Panther's CGI was embarrassingly bad.

At least it didn't get the best visual effects nomination. That would have been a travesty.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

At least it didn't get the best visual effects nomination. That would have been a travesty.

No kidding. That third act Black Panther versus Killmonger fight was the worst.

[Leo656]

No kidding. That third act Black Panther versus Killmonger fight was the worst.

Didn't see the movie, but I saw that bit, and... You're right.

[AT-Man]

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[Sumac]

Those sillies really think that Africans would have accomplished in several centuries, what Europe had accomplished in several thousand years???

Lefties are funny.

To elaborate, so lefties here would be less (or more) triggered: everything that we have now is a result of a long and arduous process of social and cultural evolution, which have occurred since the dawn of humanity.

It took Europe about 1000+ (about ~200k if you count from the "beginning" of humanity) years to get the Renaissance, which was a crucial step on the pathway to the modern society, mostly free from superstitions and institutions which were holding it back (though, lefties seemingly want to turn back time), as well as scientific and cultural progress.

To think that African people, who were still living in a primitive tribal societies at the time, would have accomplished the same, just in few centuries without being disrupted by "evil white people" is a laughable thought at best, ignorant at worst.

You can't jump from tribal / feudal society right into the technological revolution and society similar to that of the modern day, without having multiple hurdles. In fact, all our achievements are the result of this hurdles. Since without obstacles to overcome, without freedom of thought, without cultural clashes, there is no societal evolution.

If Africans would have been left on their own, they would have become the same "living fossils" as some of the isolated tribes in the Amazon. And eventually they still would have been conquered by someone, because, that's how it works in the world - strong dominate the weak.

[Andrew NDB]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U

[oldmanwinters]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U

High Art!
http://i.imgur.com/NXEWHSN.jpg (https://imgur.com/NXEWHSN)
Lolz

I admit I do take some satisfaction in watching the Hollywood Blockbuster Pop-corn movies ruin the party formerly enjoyed by the darlings of "The Academy" and all that rot.

[Leo656]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U

Headline should read, "Disney CEO Has Never Seen 'Apocalypse Now', Declared Functionally Incompetent".

[IMJ]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U

Ehhh... that's definitely not true. Black Panther was a fairly middle of the road movie, dipping into the crap side of the spectrum more than the good side. It was acted with exaggerated melodrama on the race card through Killmonger, and featured some pretty awful, independent-T.V.-show-level green screening. That movie was not good. It was bolstered by agenda-manipulation by Marvel to certain groups who ate that **** up.

The strongest part of the property is Boseman who is incredibly likeable and plays a truly regal but approachable King. He's just cool to watch on film, and of course the Black Panther character himself is cool in every way.

[Leo656]

But... But TIME Magazine said........

[Sumac]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U
Disney CEO needs to take out "woke" dick from his ear.
This audience is not worth pandering to.

[AquaParade]

Disney CEO says "Black Panther" is as good as anything Scorsese or Coppola has done in film:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/10/disney-ceo-bob-iger-thinks-black-panther-should-be-compared-to-scorsese-amp-coppolas-cinema?fbclid=IwAR0hoJAb2cecq1JCNfzXsJdzYsFKXNZtXj 13Q_CY42yC7EIQWTwuNeY59-U

Can't read the article at the moment, but without further context, my thoughts are:

On a storytelling level (script, acting, direction, uh pretty much everything), no way. I mean, art is subjective, so he is free to feel that way, but as I believe Andrew said in another thread, we are all going to snicker at him.
I enjoyed Black Panther. I own about a third of the MCU films - the ones I truly enjoy - and BP isn't among them, but I did own it at one point. I like it.

That said, I can see the argument that maybe Black Panther is just as important a film, if not more. Culturally speaking. The film clearly meant a lot to many people. Fans have been vocal and it made tons of money. It's not for me to say whether that was the first film which truly represented certain minorities, or made them feel seen, so I just take their word for it.

Again though, to round out my point, the statement comes off as laughable, when you think in terms of basic quality.

[Andrew NDB]

Anthony Mackie, among other things, says Marvel was basically... racist to hire only black people to work on Black Panther. He's not really wrong:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/falcon_and_the_winter_soldier/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-star-anthony-mackie-criticises-marvel-studios-lack-of-diversity-a176377?fbclid=IwAR1n59NVEboihCG2pq2_v9N6MfYdHXfDQ Jq1xt24XL-9xni2L0phQlNZBfc#gs.01b1.9dqp3u

[Zulithe]

Well the film composer for Black Panther was white. And uhh, like 3 of the cast, one is just there to prop up the main villain and dies by his hand with ease, another plays the buffoon, and the third being Bucky (super brief.)

But I get his point.

Either let's keep things equal or stop pretending that equality is the real goal here. Sometimes the double standards cause you to think.

I think black representation in American media is actually really strong and about where it needs to be (when compared to demographics.) -- what needs to be focused on is representation for other groups like asians or latinx people.

[Sumac]

Welcome to the new age of segregation.

Also, not latinx. Latino.

[Zulithe]

Also, not latinx. Latino.
Well i see people use Latinx a ton so I'm just trying to be respectful and use the term people prefer. I didn't know it was in contention. :tcry:

[Sumac]

Well i see people use Latinx a ton so I'm just trying to be respectful and use the term people prefer. I didn't know it was in contention. :tcry:
"Latinx" is what "concerned" white people are using.
Most of Latino people don't really care.

[XERO]

Anthony Mackie, among other things, says Marvel was basically... racist to hire only black people to work on Black Panther. He's not really wrong:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/falcon_and_the_winter_soldier/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-star-anthony-mackie-criticises-marvel-studios-lack-of-diversity-a176377?fbclid=IwAR1n59NVEboihCG2pq2_v9N6MfYdHXfDQ Jq1xt24XL-9xni2L0phQlNZBfc#gs.01b1.9dqp3u

At least it wasn't Matt Damon starring as T'Challa.

[Andrew NDB]

"Latinx" is what "concerned" white people are using.
Most of Latino people don't really care.

True. It's mostly just "concerned" white SJWs trying to own/change the language, as always.

[Coola Yagami]

True. It's mostly just "concerned" white SJWs trying to own/change the language, as always.

Kinda like a few decades ago, they removed Speedy Gonzalez cartoons because white people basically felt offended 'for us'. Naw man, Speedy was our boy. Glad he came back years later.

[ZariusTwo]

So Shuri's an anti-Vaxer...

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-04/black-panther-star-letitia-wright-under-fire-for-sharing-covid-anti-vaccination-video

[Galactus]

Anthony Mackie, among other things, says Marvel was basically... racist to hire only black people to work on Black Panther. He's not really wrong:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/falcon_and_the_winter_soldier/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-star-anthony-mackie-criticises-marvel-studios-lack-of-diversity-a176377?fbclid=IwAR1n59NVEboihCG2pq2_v9N6MfYdHXfDQ Jq1xt24XL-9xni2L0phQlNZBfc#gs.01b1.9dqp3u

Honestly it's a thorny issue. Christopher Priest (who wrote the definitive T'challa) spoke about it with the comics. That an earnest attempt to address the valid criticisms that often non white characters are not given authentic 'voices' it meant that black writers were then stuck only being given black titles to helm when they could do better writing non poc characters. While he eventually grew to love T'challa and his mythos he originally was not a fan or know much about the character.

The hiring practice for people who work on most Hollywood moves unintentionally favours white people. If this was Blade or Falcon or Steel I'd be okay with a mix but Black Panther a property which is a celebration of everything of African origin? I think they made the right call.

So Shuri's an anti-Vaxer...

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-04/black-panther-star-letitia-wright-under-fire-for-sharing-covid-anti-vaccination-video

And doesn't think there should be a BP2. I'm assuming her mind will change if
Marvel offer her a boat load of money to make Shuri the new Black Pamther.

[Shark_Blade]

Just recast Shuri, problem solved.

[Sumac]

So Shuri's an anti-Vaxer...

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-04/black-panther-star-letitia-wright-under-fire-for-sharing-covid-anti-vaccination-video
Let's see how fast leftards gonna demand her bones.

Just recast Shuri, problem solved.
For having a different opinion?

Black Panther a property which is a celebration of everything of African origin? I think they made the right call.
Created by two Jewish guy who wanted to cash-in on contemporary events. Not to say it was their only motive, but...

[Coola Yagami]

So Shuri's an anti-Vaxer...

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-04/black-panther-star-letitia-wright-under-fire-for-sharing-covid-anti-vaccination-video

Pretty sure all of us are gonna be anti-vaxxers once the CoVid vaccine is out. I'm not letting that anywhere near me. I ain't gonna be someone's guinea pig.

[CyberCubed]

Pretty sure all of us are gonna be anti-vaxxers once the CoVid vaccine is out. I'm not letting that anywhere near me. I ain't gonna be someone's guinea pig.

LOL, you do you. I'll get one when it's widely available, there is no downside at all.

[neatoman]

So Shuri's an anti-Vaxer...

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-04/black-panther-star-letitia-wright-under-fire-for-sharing-covid-anti-vaccination-video

"Queen Shuri, how do we solve the Corona virus crisis? Should we develop a vaccine with the help of our magic space metal?"
"No, it'll cause autism!"

[Leo656]

LOL, you do you. I'll get one when it's widely available, there is no downside at all.

This might be THE dumbest thing you've ever said.

My father worked in a lab testing pharmaceutical products to ensure product safety. In brief, his job was to make sure people taking the medicine didn't die. And you'd be shocked at how little the pharmaceutical companies care about human lives or safety when there's profit to be made. When he got let go he got a tidy little severance package after he threatened to blow the whistle on all their shady, unethical, and borderline illegal activities. They gave people cancer, knowingly gave people cancer, among other things. Happens every day.

To be clear, I think anti-vaxxers are pretty dumb. BUT. This is an unprecedented situation. This prospective COVID vaccine was rushed to market faster than any vaccine in history and that leaves room for all kinds of problems. We literally don't know if it's gonna make your balls fall off in ten years or what. And we WON'T know, for a very long time. If someone told you flat-out "This vaccine will protect you from a respiratory disease, but it might give you bone marrow cancer", would you still take it? Frankly, in that case I'd take my chances catching COVID. These are serious and very real concerns given the situation.

Knowing for a fact as I do that "Just ship it, if people start dying we'll deal with it later, that's what we have lawyers for" is how the industry operates, in THIS case I'm very "wait-and-see". I admit that something needs to be done, but I won't be shocked if the first wave of people who get the vaccine have really bad side effects. Because that ALWAYS happens when products are rushed to market. You apparently wouldn't know this because you don't watch "regular" TV, but it's impossible to do so at almost any time of day without seeing a commercial saying "If you took ______ between the years X and Y, you may be entitled to financial compensation..." because of all the treatments and drugs that have been rushed to market over the years which in turn gave people all kinds of serious medical problems.

"No downside at all." Don't be f*cking ignorant.

Everybody I know definitely wants a vaccine sooner rather than later. BUT, at the same time, absolutely none of them wants to be first in line to get it. That's called "common sense".

Fingers crossed, let's hope all goes well, but don't be stupid. I know you say a lot of stuff for your "gimmick" and you know for a fact I like you, but sometimes you're so offsides it's infuriating.

Vaccines are Good. Rushing any medical treatment to market because we're in a rush to "save the world" is Bad. And it's naive to think "They wouldn't let it out if it wasn't safe" when that happens literally EVERY DAY.

I sincerely hope it all goes smooth. But I, personally, will not be rushing to the front of the line.

[CyberCubed]

It has a 94% success rate, I'll take that over wearing masks for another year though. Also the chances of dying are slim.

[Leo656]

So are the chances of dying from COVID unless you're a heavy smoker, very overweight, very old, or have a serious underlying medical condition that is preexisting. Still sounds like a coin toss to me.

How on Earth would they know Right Now if giving someone the vaccine in 2021 would give them testicular or uterine cancer in 2028? They don't know, and they won't know for years.

You know why doctors used to prescribe anabolic steroids to every single professional athlete throughout the 1970s and early-1980s? Because it took over a decade for those people to start getting cancer and heart disease. They too were "Over 94% successful" at what their function is (actually they're about 100% successful, really), but lo and behold, they f*cking kill you. And guess what? That factoid didn't come out in the trials and the tests. For almost 20 years it was supposed to be as "safe" as taking a vitamin. Then a lot of people got ball cancer and died. "Oops".

Again, I'm not an anti-vaxxer and I think anti-vaxxers are dangerous. I do, however, empathize with their concerns about "Unknown Unknowns", aka "Things that we don't know that we Don't Know." Given the things I know about how the pharmaceutical industry works, in THIS case I have to be skeptical and cautious. Any drug can be 94% or even 100% "effective" at its function but still kill you in other ways if they simply don't know it can.

They're not mind readers, is my point. What if - WHAT IF - a year after the vaccine comes out there's a huge spike in brain tumors? Are we collectively Better or Worse?

Most vaccines we have today were tested and trialed for years and years. I can't look at something that's been in development for less than 12 months and be anything but nervous. Hopeful, sure, but very, very nervous.

Because again, I know for a fact that certain companies pushed drugs on people for years knowing for a fact that they were giving them cancer, and they didn't care one bit. They gave their own workers cancer by putting them in "hot" labs and lying about the levels of radiation. There's more, but that's plenty.

I'm too close to the situation to put blind faith in the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, they want to curb the virus, but it's also a race to the finish line where the winner gets billions of dollars and the credit with "saving all humanity". Things slip through the cracks every day where the stakes are a lot lower than this.

By all means, go ahead and be first in line. But don't say nobody warned you if your intestines rot or your bone marrow disintegrates.

I sincerely, truly hope that none of that comes to pass. But "wait-and-see" in this case is a very pragmatic and practical way of looking at the situation. I'm way more scared of tumors than I am of a respiratory disease. I'll feel a lot better when I know for a fact that nobody's gotten any bad side effects after a long time has passed. Until that time DOES pass, though, nobody can predict what's gonna happen.

Fingers crossed, we'll see.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's like nobody knows the inherent risks in a product that is "first to market."

You do know these companies are racing each other, right? To be first, right?

You think -- maybe THINK -- that some corners might be cut? Or some tests might not be as extensive as they should be?

Nah, it'll be fine.

[Andrew NDB]

It's like nobody knows the inherent risks in a product that is "first to market."

You do know these companies are racing each other, right? To be first, right?

You think -- maybe THINK -- that some corners might be cut? Or some tests might not be as extensive as they should be?

Nah, it'll be fine.

The way I look at it is, I'd be far more likely to be one of the first people in line to get a PS5 than be the first people in line to get the vaccine. Which is to say, not likely at all.

Now, if they reopened my industry here in WA and said, "OK, Andrew. We'll make you a deal. Take this here vaccine and you can return to work on Monday." Well, OK, that's different. I'll be one of the first people in line, then. Even if the vaccine they're doling out turns to be ineffective my general "I don't think the virus is very scary" would still remain in place... and at least I'd be back at work.

[Leo656]

It's funny, there was an article on Yahoo the other day about exactly this, the vaccine thing. And it was trying to be encouraging and optimistic; the main point of the article was that the vaccine is Good News. The information it presented was in response to questions people submitted, which were then forwarded to the people making/distributing the vaccine, so everything in the article was supposedly "straight from the horse's mouth".

....But despite it's intent, the actual factual information presented is absolutely full of red flags. Such as:

- The admission that most vaccines are tested for a minimum of two years for safety concerns, but that such a long trial period was considered "unacceptable" under the current situation.

- China and Russia have already started distributing their own independently-developed vaccines to their own people, which have undergone even less testing and may not even work, in a case of "Well, we gotta do SOMEthing". This has little to do with us directly, but you have to admit, it's eyebrow-raising.

- They STILL have no idea if the vaccine will be a "one-and-done", if it will require multiple injections within a set period of time, if you'll need another one every year, or what.

- Pregnant women were not included in the trials. They have literally no idea how pregnant women will react to the vaccine, if it will cause complications in the unborn child, or what. Again, this seems important.

- They completely admit that while the vaccine is up to 94% effective at curbing the virus, the actual long-term side effects are a complete unknown at this point. They plan to "monitor the people who were part of the trials closely over the next several years to see if anything negative develops", but that they won't know about ANY possible harm or side effects until then. This is the big one, for me. "Does it give you cancer? Brain damage? Shrink your balls? Make your eyeballs melt?" "Well... we don't KNOW, really. We just HOPE not. But we'll be keeping an eye on it." :roll: Jesus, that makes me feel a WHOLE lot safer, guys.

Again, this information is directly from the people who are making/distributing the vaccine, so it's definitely not "conspiracy bullsh*t", and it seems like stuff we really ought to know by now before we let people start jabbing us with needles. "We don't know how it affects pregnant women, we didn't test on them." "We don't know how many shots a person needs for it to be effective." "We have no idea whatsoever about side effects, we weren't really looking at that, we're just going to have to cross our fingers and pray."

Like... what? They wanna start rolling this thing out in less than a month, and those are not small details. It really does feel like a race to be first to "save the world" - and in turn, cash in on same.

If I can find the article again I'll share it. But rather than change my mind, this "Hooray for the vaccine!" article really just reinforced every single thing I was already afraid of. Like it literally addressed every single question I had with, "Yeah, we really don't know." :roll:

"Human Guinea Pigs" is apt. I'm sorry, absolutely NOT an anti-vaxxer but in this case I'm on the side of "Wait and see what happens". I'd honestly rather take a chance on getting a respiratory illness than god knows what. "Better the Devil you know", and all that. People can do what they wanna do, and I wish them well, and Good Luck. Sincerely HOPE there's no bad side effects.

But if "We won't know for a few years", then guess what? I'm fine waiting a few years. To think "Well it HAS to be safe or they wouldn't be giving it to us!" when the people making it admit they have no idea what the long-term effects are seems INCREDIBLY naive and shortsighted.

Less than 9 months of testing? "No idea about the possible side effects?" Yeah, not good enough for me, thanks. Come back to me with Hard Answers, not hypotheticals and "We'll have to wait and see".


Now, if they reopened my industry here in WA and said, "OK, Andrew. We'll make you a deal. Take this here vaccine and you can return to work on Monday." Well, OK, that's different. I'll be one of the first people in line, then. Even if the vaccine they're doling out turns to be ineffective my general "I don't think the virus is very scary" would still remain in place... and at least I'd be back at work.

Not I, says the fox. Not until they can PROVE it's safe, and not just saying "We really HOPE it's safe."

Again, purely hypothetically, but if it keeps you from getting COVID but gives you ball cancer or gut rot... are you really coming out ahead?

They'll know for sure how safe it Is or Isn't eventually. I don't even take drugs, I don't put things into my body without knowing 100% of what they might do. "You have to do this or we won't let you go back to work"? Now it's a conversation between Them and my lawyer, in that hypothetical situation. I have to imagine that "Forcing someone to inject an unknown element into their body without any knowledge of the long-term consequences" would never fall under "fair and reasonable terms of employment". You can't do that to people, as far as I know it's illegal.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The admission that most vaccines are tested for a minimum of two years for safety concerns, but that such a long trial period was considered "unacceptable" under the current situation.

Unacceptable, because hooray for election cycles and politicians blowing everything out of proportion on both sides!!!

- Pregnant women were not included in the trials. They have literally no idea how pregnant women will react to the vaccine, if it will cause complications in the unborn child, or what. Again, this seems important.

Those are gonna be some heartbreaking lawsuits, worst case scenario.

- They completely admit that while the vaccine is up to 94% effective at curbing the virus, the actual long-term side effects are a complete unknown at this point. They plan to "monitor the people who were part of the trials closely over the next several years to see if anything negative develops", but that they won't know about ANY possible harm or side effects until then. This is the big one, for me. "Does it give you cancer? Brain damage? Shrink your balls? Make your eyeballs melt?" "Well... we don't KNOW, really. We just HOPE not. But we'll be keeping an eye on it." :roll: Jesus, that makes me feel a WHOLE lot safer, guys.

This is the big one for me, too. In my industry, seeing "first to market" result in a lot of manufacturing and test problems (which means lost revenue only) has been extremely eye-opening.

I'm definitely not getting in on a "first to market, hit the window first!" medical product. Lost health and lost life is a much bigger deal for me than lost bonus or lost raise.

Like... what? They wanna start rolling this thing out in less than a month, and those are not small details. It really does feel like a race to be first to "save the world" - and in turn, cash in on same.

Also, think about this. Even if lawsuits happen because of a faulty first-to-market product... first-to-market product is probably gonna reap a lot of great government contracts and benefits. Enough to compensate for potential medical lawsuits years from now, which can be fought?

Hell yeah. First to market is gonna be a sweet gig for whoever crosses the R&D finish line first here.

[Leo656]

As I've said, my father worked in the industry for almost three decades. He watched the shift happen firsthand from companies caring about making sick people well into "Just ship it, we need money."

The company he worked for was one of the leading pharmaceutical manufacturers, and for a long time, they apparently operated with integrity. Then they got bought out by a company that made soap. And then everything changed overnight. When you're measuring chemicals for shampoo, you can be "off" by a point here or there and it's not gonna really hurt too much. It doesn't work that way when you're making medicine, or at least, it shouldn't. BUT, those were the standards they enforced upon taking over the company in the late-80s. "Close enough, ship it." If it could be shipped out the door faster/cheaper, then Do It. "If people get sick, we'll settle out of court. If people die, well... dead people don't sue, and their grieving families will settle for a pittance and be happy with that."

People tried to smarten them up. Plenty of people who'd been working for the original company raised their voices in protest. "You can't DO that to people, we're supposed to be making them well." In response, the new parent company did as expected, and just replaced Every Single Employee with their own people, because 1. Again, it's cheaper, and 2. They wouldn't make a fuss.

It's a dirty business, pharmaceuticals. At some point it became solely about profit. Especially in this country, where drugs are like the only thing we still produce and manufacture. So again, not an "anti-vaxxer nutcase"... just an informed observer who knows first-hand how these things go, and doesn't like the answers I'm seeing to very important questions.

I mean, if a person says they're not concerned if people get sick or die from a barely-tested vaccine, but they DO care if people get sick and die from a virus... then the whole thing is kind of disingenuous, no? It's about what will make them personally feel "more safe" rather than any objective reality about what IS safe.

But yeah, if it turns out they needed more time in the oven... whooooo, boy. Lawyers were made for this kind of situation specifically. You can already hear them salivating.

What a sh*t situation all the way around.

[ZariusTwo]

Wakanda series being developed by Coogler for Disney+


https://deadline.com/2021/02/black-panther-ryan-coogler-wakanda-series-disney-plus-exclusive-disney-television-deal-proximity-media-1234684707/