Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 6: Journey to the Center of Mikey's Brain

[victory_angel]

Season 4 episode 5 is starting just hours from now.

Plot: When microscopic aliens invade Mikey’s mind, the Turtles have to chase them through the strange world of Mikey’s subconscious.

So are we truely seeing the neutrinos that we've seen images of? What will the Turtles encounter in their younger brothers over active subconscious? And the question that is plaguing everyone's mind...will this episode somehow connect to the overall plot or will it (as the plot and everything about it suggests) be straight up filler.

We can only watch and find out...

http://orig01.deviantart.net/d941/f/2016/016/a/d/little_mikey_with_crown_by_lullabystars-d9o5kn5.jpg

[Vicky82]

Its up early on I Tunes now so it's going to be another torture day with trying to avoid spoilers until it airs (Unless someone records and uploads it).

[TigerClaw]

And it begins. :)

[ObiWanFan4life]

Was that a Pulp Fiction reference?

[syk_skillz]

OMG Charlie Murthy!!

[Ninturtle]

Funniest episode of the season so far, the writing quality just seems better this time around.

[cookie jar]

And Neutrinos finally show up.

[TigerClaw]

The Neutrinos were not how I expected them.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Inside Out: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Edition.

[Vicky82]

Twin Peaks reference :lol:

[saintsaucey]

Effing awful episode

[Ninturtle]

I didn't expect to like this episode that much but it was actually really good, I love the "that's alien racism" by Casey, and the re uses of some CGI sets and models for this episode were grrat.

[Vicky82]

Awww that was such a cute episode :D

I'm surprised Splinter wasn't seen.

So Tiger Claw was there with the Mutanimals, Pigeon Pete, Leatherhead, Mondo Gecko in Mikey's imagination. Is this Foreshadowing that he could be leaving Shredder and join the Mutanimals.

[pannoni1]

This episode was anything but imaginative, even if there were some funny moments, such as Donatello stating the real life version of what a Neutrino is. Add the rather silly version of Jabba along with the been there, done that version of the different personifications of a character along with another forced bailout from danger, this just didn't feel very rewarding and is clearly filler. Very weak in the action/fighting department along with no references to advance the overall arc of the season.

Overall: 6/10

[yellowmario27]

If someone doesn't mind, can you please write a quick summary of the episode?
I know the synopsis but something maybe a bit specific?

[TigerClaw]

I thought it was a good episode, but the Neutrinos were not how I expected them, I was expecting this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18154/2996186-bkppjobtxczwbig.jpg

Instead we get this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY77EkYWwAA7Gv8.png

[Vicky82]

I thought it was a good episode, but the Neutrinos were not how I expected them, I was expecting this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18154/2996186-bkppjobtxczwbig.jpg

Instead we get this

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/9/96/IMG_1835-1-.png

It's probably because IDW are already using the 'proper' Neutrinos so Nick decide to do something different with them and use them as the bad guys.

[Ninturtle]

This episode was anything but imaginative, even if there were some funny moments, such as Donatello stating the real life version of what a Neutrino is. Add the rather silly version of Jabba along with the been there, done that version of the different personifications of a character along with another forced bailout from danger, this just didn't feel very rewarding and is clearly filler. Very weak in the action/fighting department along with no references to advance the overall arc of the season.

Overall: 6/10

Did you see the full episode? They got Triceraton schematics at the end, that's why they met with Belly Bomb in the first place.

[GoldMutant]

..............

Second worst episode of the space arc by far. I swear, why can't Michelangelo get one solid outing for once? I hated The Croaking for good reason on screwing so many things up and being lackluster, but why do we need filler again? Now all of a sudden, let's cram as many references as possible into one episode.

Although Bellybomb was a nice addition and the scenario in Mikey's head, the rest is just..... I can't even describe it. The continuity in the memories I can praise, but other than that, it's just a pure acid trip of an episode. They rushed yet another episode with potential; even though I wasn't expecting much, I just can't see what they were going for the brain busters (no, I refuse to call them Neutrinos) or Mikey's portrayal. I know I said the same thing about The Creeping Doom was irritating, but why can't we go a cohesive development for the little runt? Mikey may be my least favorite Turtle personally, but it's discouraging. Let me ask a question, if Mikey has all these emotions, then why don't they use them more often?

If they didn't rush the memories out or Mikey's emotions and used them to triumph, I'd see a better episode. Instead, we have an inferior episode concept near identical to In Dreams only less creative and more of stuff of me facepalming. I had more fun watching Wyrm onscreen than the Brain Busters for sure; they are literally trying to tie the narrative together with Dregg too.

Maybe I'll look back on the episode but for the time being, I consider this and Mona to be the low point this season.

[IndigoErth]

Sooooo, that was... interesting. Someone put something funny in the studio water cooler again, I see. lol

Although I kind of expected "little Mikey" to be representative of his inner child, that he's still in touch with, rather than just symbolizing the maturity level of the "real him."

[cookie jar]

It was kind of meh. Little Mikey was cute though.

[OrangeNinja1987]

It was an okay episode. It could have done without the burp jokes, but since immature humor has been ramped up in the show for the past couple seasons, I wasn't surprised.
Had a couple funny moments, such as "alien racism". Seeing Mikey's memories and imagination was fun. Little Mikey was pretty cute. Seeing some old characters and even old cartoons they watched in Mikey's imagination was fun.
I feel like this episode didn't dumb down Mikey. They presented his angry side, his childish side, his lazy side, his annoying side, his weird side, and everything else, and it made all of them serve a purpose to the turtles on their adventure.
Overall, 6.5/10.
I think I've only liked one episode this season enough to rate it past a 7, and that's the Moons of Thalos 3.
I have to admit the writing and humor has noticeably gone downhill.

[Ninturtle]

It was an okay episode. It could have done without the burp jokes, but since immature humor has been ramped up in the show for the past couple seasons, I wasn't surprised.
Had a couple funny moments, such as "alien racism". Seeing Mikey's memories and imagination was fun. Little Mikey was pretty cute. Seeing some old characters and even old cartoons they watched in Mikey's imagination was fun.
I feel like this episode didn't dumb down Mikey. They presented his angry side, his childish side, his lazy side, his annoying side, his weird side, and everything else, and it made all of them serve a purpose to the turtles on their adventure.
Overall, 6.5/10.
I think I've only liked one episode this season enough to rate it past a 7, and that's the Moons of Thalos 3.
I have to admit the writing and humor has noticeably gone downhill.

The bad breath jokes were a reference to Belly Bombs bad breath ability in the Archie Comics.

[Vicky82]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/17/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-journey-to-the-center-of-mikeys-mind-review

IGN review up it scored 7.7

[TigerClaw]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/17/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-journey-to-the-center-of-mikeys-mind-review

IGN review up it scored 7.7
Interesting, the Cons were that it was filler to them.

[OrangeNinja1987]

The bad breath jokes were a reference to Belly Bombs bad breath ability in the Archie Comics.

That doesn't make them funny.

[Ninturtle]

That doesn't make them funny.

I saw them more of references to a characters abilities rather than jokes, I thought it was a nice call back.

[drgon78]

Good episode but hated the Neutrino redesign.

[Vicky82]

I did not expect Mikey's angry side to be really big, I thought it was going to be small. I also thought his annoying side was going to be bigger than that.

I loved the Twin peaks reference when his wacky side was talking in backwards and also they were in the room with red cutains which is also part of the reference.

[The Happy One]

Eh, pretty cool. The animation was neat in Mikey’s imagination and lil' Mikey was pretty cute but, y’know, overall it was what I expected it to be- a funny, adorable little filler before things get serious.

[Vicky82]

Eh, pretty cool. The animation was neat in Mikey’s imagination and lil' Mikey was pretty cute but, y’know, overall it was what I expected it to be- a funny, adorable little filler before things get serious.

Yeah it was just a break from the serious episodes and they had to keep the little kids happy.

[Bitsy83]

Well....that episode was certainly a sugar rush on acid.

I like the idea of going into people's psyche. While overdone, it is one of my favorite tropes. Which is why I'm hoping we use it again when/if we get the "Dark April" saga or whichever character goes to the dark-side thanks to that crystal fragment. Just because April had the closing shot in that episode, doesn't necessarily mean SHE'LL go bad, but it is likely, I suppose.

Ok, while the rap was painful and the Yellow Submarine/Alice in Wonderland world was a bit trippy, it was cute to see a little Mikey. I know Greg Cipes is good at kid voices, but I really wanted to hear an actual KID voice a Turtle Tot. I still have audio nightmares of that episode from the 2k3 show where they were all facing that demon to save Splinter. Their voices were just...ugh.

Sorry, tangent.

OK, it's nice to see that Mikey DOES take things seriously when need be and he hates being used, despite being so distracted and innocent. I guess we all have our "happy place" we retreat to when real life gets a bit too much. Take me for example. I'm 32, work in retail, and have to deal with adult issues like bills, reducing clutter and stress from my life, and whatnot. Whenever I get a moment, I'll just go to my room and just daydream for stuff, normally geeky stuff. This world was just how Mikey copes with everything.

I really would've loved to have seen Splinter in one of the flashbacks, especially when Mikey was a kid. That'd have been both cute and tragic. Like Splinter telling him a bedtime story or comforting him from having a nightmare.

Other than that, the episode was harmless and did give us some character development for Mikey. I just hope we don't keep using Mikey for throwaway jokes. And I would LOVE to see what the other characters' psyches are like.

[miru]

... Bellybomb? NINJARA CONFIRMED.

[Mew]

My favorite episode of the series. It was fantastic.

[Ninturtle]

... Bellybomb? NINJARA CONFIRMED.

I don't see how Belly Bomb confirms anything.

And on a different note I just want the fillery episodes of the space arc to be over, they seem to rely to much on nostalgia and not on really good story telling.The episodes aren't god awful, and seeing some of the characters again is cool but these episodes aren't as impressive as the episodes from previous seasons.Hopefully the next few episodes will be better and we'll have the same thing we had with last season were the first few episodes weren't that good but the rest were great.

[TigerClaw]

Was anyone disappointed with the Nick versions of the Neutrinos? they looked like Cylons.

[Ninturtle]

Was anyone disappointed with the Nick versions of the Neutrinos? they looked like Cylons.

Neutrinos aren't exactly the most interesting character so I didn't really care what they fid with them, I liked what IDW did but I wouldn't want Nick to copy them.

[Bitsy83]

Neutrinos aren't exactly the most interesting character so I didn't really care what they fid with them, I liked what IDW did but I wouldn't want Nick to copy them.

I admit, I was sort of expecting a rebel group fighting the Kraang and Triceratons and have them be the Neutrinos, but making them microscopic warriors does match their name a bit more. We might still get a Zac, Kala, and....whatever the third one was called in this series; they just won't be Neutrinos.

[NinjaPug]

I really disliked that episode. It was a good opportunity for them to reuse a bunch of character models and sets though.

[matteso586]

Uh oh, Lord Dregg is getting intrigued by generator fragments. That's going to make the main mission more difficult.

I always like the episodes that bring back familiar faces as cameos.

[Vicky82]

If anyone is interested to hear what Mikey said backwards here it is.

http://tmnt4ever2012.tumblr.com/post/137497942108/sparkle148-what-mikey-was-saying-backwards

[miru]

I don't see how Belly Bomb confirms anything.

And on a different note I just want the fillery episodes of the space arc to be over, they seem to rely to much on nostalgia and not on really good story telling.The episodes aren't god awful, and seeing some of the characters again is cool but these episodes aren't as impressive as the episodes from previous seasons.Hopefully the next few episodes will be better and we'll have the same thing we had with last season were the first few episodes weren't that good but the rest were great.


Mainly due to his obscurity. Also, I feel some of the Space filler is better than the Northampton filler.

[TigerClaw]

If anyone is interested to hear what Mikey said backwards here it is.

http://tmnt4ever2012.tumblr.com/post/137497942108/sparkle148-what-mikey-was-saying-backwards
That's cool. :)

[Ninturtle]

Mainly due to his obscurity. Also, I feel some of the Space filler is better than the Northampton filler.

Just because one obscure character is used doesn't mean another character from that series will be used.

[Guitar_Raph]

Loved this episode! Greg Cipes used his Beast Boy voice @ one point. And Mikey did a rap, despite the others thought it was annoying.

Wish Mikey had played an instrument.

[Technogeek29]

You know there is more to Michelangelo than "The goofy one" ugh how do you people like him? He's annoying in the entirely other way.

[Vicky82]

You know there is more to Michelangelo than "The goofy one" ugh how do you people like him? He's annoying in the entirely other way.

Because he's adorable, cute, funny, sensitive, badass (when he needs to be), love his fighting skills and I love his relationship with his brothers, Splinter, Leatherhead, ICK ect.

[victory_angel]

Ok, while the rap was painful and the Yellow Submarine/Alice in Wonderland world was a bit trippy, it was cute to see a little Mikey. I know Greg Cipes is good at kid voices, but I really wanted to hear an actual KID voice a Turtle Tot. I still have audio nightmares of that episode from the 2k3 show where they were all facing that demon to save Splinter. Their voices were just...ugh.


Same thing with the child versions of the OT turtles.

I think having Cipes being a the voice of 6 year old Mikey was meant to associate him with present day Mikey even though he is mentally, emotionally, and physically in the body of a child.

Perhaps when they show the Turtle Tots for real they can hire on kids to voice the Turtle Tots and Turtle Tweens.

[Aaronardo]

Because he's adorable, cute, funny, sensitive, badass (when he needs to be), love his fighting skills and I love his relationship with his brothers, Splinter, Leatherhead, ICK ect.

Yes but more often than not, he's "the dumb one" or "the goofy one" in this series, rather than the lovable one or the one that keeps his family from falling apart. They could've literally tapped into this trait of the character last week's episode in the easiest way possible and yet they didn't, proving once and for all that these writers couldn't understand Michelangelo if they tried.

Even though... I did sorta enjoy this episode. Yeah it was more misrepresentation of Mikey, but it wasn't... as bad as some others. Any confusion from the writers as to who his character is kinda takes a back seat to the admittedly funny story. My favorite of the season so far... but that's not saying much.

But... yeah... they really need to get the ball rolling with Mikey. It's starting to get embarrassing (while you're at it, get the ball rolling with... literally every character other than Leo, Donnie, and Splinter).

[GoldMutant]

To build off what you said Aaron, I went onto to Turtlepedia recently and was talking in a thread with one of the main editors who was showing evidence of Michelangelo being more than simply goofy. Besides, I know for a fact he's more than that: Mikey can be creative or filled with imagination, he's serious with a laidback attitude, he's emotional (LH, IDW, and others have proven it), and so on and so forth.

It's my gripe with Mikey in general, a majority of the time he's written as comic relief; although he's like that, there's more to the character than that. It's like Donnie being more than the brains, Raphael being aggressive, or Leonardo being selfless. Sure, these are the traits we identify with the characters a majority of the time, but it feels that the writers play way too safe and going into the typical cliche of using these one dimensional traits. It frustrates me, especially with Nick when we've gotten episodes to prove Mikey is more than that, like Attack of the Mega Shredder, Into Dimension X!, etc.

I honestly wish though these fragments of Mikey got more screentime to play with, especially you could use the previous adventures or new memories to show why Mikey acts who he is. In addition, use Mikey's imagniation to defeat these Brain Busters (I'm not calling them Neutrinos, they are extremely generic looking). Honestly, if that were done I'd say it's a solid gem in the space arc; instead, it just acts as primarily filler and somewhat fanservice based.

While far from the worst episode I've seen him in the spotlight in, the goof trend needs to stop being prominent. I don't care if it's writers, the fact they fall back on that trope disgusts me of not being able to write a good Michelangelo episode again. Come on guys, at least do something other than the standard. :trolleye:

[Vicky82]

Mikey was fine in this episode, he wasn't acting goofy (ok he had the lets annoy Raph moment but that's what Mikey does anyway), dumb, he didn't make any mistakes, he got serious when he needed to be, there was nothing wrong with him at all. It was just that the episode was a light hearted one.

Before this episode aired I thought that Mikey seemed more serious than funny this season as he hadn't made any mistakes and was taking things more seriously but still having the odd funny moment. He just seemed more toned down.

When I watched this episode today and seeing his personalities especially his angry/serious side and his funny/annoying side. I thought that his angry side would be a lot smaller and his funny side would be a lot bigger but they weren't, they were the other way round. This has made think that, Mikey seeing Splinters death has affected him and it seems he wants to focus on beating The Triceratons and saving earth and more importantly save Splinter.

[Technogeek29]

Mikey was fine in this episode, he wasn't acting goofy (ok he had the lets annoy Raph moment but that's what Mikey does anyway), dumb, he didn't make any mistakes, he got serious when he needed to be, there was nothing wrong with him at all. It was just that the episode was a light hearted one.

Before this episode aired I thought that Mikey seemed more serious than funny this season as he hadn't made any mistakes and was taking things more seriously but still having the odd funny moment. He just seemed more toned down.

When I watched this episode today and seeing his personalities especially his angry/serious side and his funny/annoying side. I thought that his angry side would be a lot smaller and his funny side would be a lot bigger but they weren't, they were the other way round. This has made think that, Mikey seeing Splinters death has affected him and it seems he wants to focus on beating The Triceratons and saving earth and more importantly save Splinter.

Right Because Constantly Trying To Eat someone Else food While They Try To Eat it Is Not Dumb Or Annoying. It Be different If he Realize What He Was Doing Was Wrong. But He Got mad At belly Bomb And Raph Told Him To Knock It Off. Like They Were Wrong From Stopping Him From Eating.

[Technogeek29]

Because he's adorable, cute, funny, sensitive, badass (when he needs to be), love his fighting skills and I love his relationship with his brothers, Splinter, Leatherhead, ICK ect.

I Think You Mean When The Writers Want Him To Be "Badass" and Even That Is Played as a joke. He's Basically Written As Brain Dead moron Half the Time To Entertain Kids. Which I Question That Since Most Kids I Know Find It Surprising When I Tell Them Mikey Isn't A dumb joke Character Like The Last Two Cartoons Make Him Out To Be. P.S. its A problem When a kid ask why do the Turtles need Mikey.

[oldmanwinters]

If anyone is interested to hear what Mikey said backwards here it is.

http://tmnt4ever2012.tumblr.com/post/137497942108/sparkle148-what-mikey-was-saying-backwards

Nicely done!

I enjoyed this episode.

I realize it makes budget sense for Nick to recycle character models in multiple episodes, but I think it was used to great effect in this episode. Really cool to see the LARP costumes, the Mutanimals, Tigerclaw, Dave Beaver, and Renet (SO BIG) all have a prominent place in Mikey's imagination.

Plus, the "death" of Chris Bradford at the hands of the Neutrinos... wow.

[GoldMutant]

I realize it makes budget sense for Nick to recycle character models in multiple episodes, but I think it was used to great effect in this episode. Really cool to see the LARP costumes, the Mutanimals, Tigerclaw, Dave Beaver, and Renet (SO BIG) all have a prominent place in Mikey's imagination.

Come on man it's obvious on Renet's size: Mikey likes em big. :P

[aliena]

This episode was a bummer. I liked seeing little Mikey, but that was about it. Why do they continually keep insisting on making the characters have the exact same traits again and again? There is so much more to Mikey, and Raph, for that matter, but they are wasted. Such a waste of potential that it makes me sad.

Mikey was pretty cool when he was immune to Belly Bomb and went to stop him. He even named him casually as well. Interesting to see that Renet was the biggest thing in his mind. Hmmmmmm

[TigerClaw]

This episode was a bummer. I liked seeing little Mikey, but that was about it. Why do they continually keep insisting on making the characters have the exact same traits again and again? There is so much more to Mikey, and Raph, for that matter, but they are wasted. Such a waste of potential that it makes me sad.

Mikey was pretty cool when he was immune to Belly Bomb and went to stop him. He even named him casually as well. Interesting to see that Renet was the biggest thing in his mind. Hmmmmmm
Imagine if they went into Raph's mind? What sort of dark stuff they would find, and knowing him, Mona Lisa would be the biggest thing in his mind too. hah

[lonewarrior20]

i think the nostalgic critic would say it best for this episode.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/Matt913/Big-LippedAlligatorMoment.jpg

[Penst0ck]

The ONE thing that really pleased my eyes this episode was seeing Leo,Raph and Donnie ride Pigeon Pete, Leatherhead and Tiger Claw. Just so much yes. XD

And big Renet was nice to see as well. 8)

[MikeandRaph87]

Just now watching it on the DVR, the guy Fugitoid knows who attempted to extort them is Bellybomb?:o He has the Neutrinos who are bad guys working for him? Missed opportunity of having a good guy in Dimension X.

[Powder]

Making Use Of Our Resources: The Episode :tlol:

Jokes aside, that was an awesome ride. I really like the "trippy" episodes this show does. Fungus Humungous, Into Dreams, etc. I loved seeing Mikey's action figures come to life, & Vision Quest Leo on Leatherheads back was the coolest thing ever. The rap sequence was pretty funny. Best of all, BELLYBOMB! & that he was voiced by Charlie Murphy made my damn week. Also, reference game on point this time around. I lost count. Oh, & for as much as I like the characters, it was nice to have a break from April & Casey & get back to square one, turtle brothers.

[jazzmatazz]

I enjoyed it. Was a cute filler. Gosh kid mikey was adorable!

[ssjup81]

Well, I just watched the episode. It was interesting, but my feelings are a little mixed on it. Felt like they missed some opportunities...you know, have the bros learn more about their misunderstood baby brother.

A couple of parts did slightly bug me though. I thought Little Mikey was adorable, but Donnie's crack about how Mikey has the maturity level of a six-year-old bothered me, especially since Mikey didn't defend himself....then again, Donnie and Raph always seem to say junk like that so I should be used to it...and siblings do tease so never mind.

Okay, now the thing that did bother me was Casey making that crack about Mikey being stupid. I would expect Raph to say something like that, not Casey because he's not the brightest bulb in the box either. Just seemed kind of mean...and, I would expect Raph or Donnie to say something like that. Not someone dumb calling another person dumb. That's like someone 350lbs calling someone 351lbs fat.

Okay, as for the episode, I liked how Mikey's innerself technically outsmarted the Neutrinos by hiding in his imagination.

Other things....it just felt like this ep was just loaded with references that I know I was missing. There were some scenes that had me thinking of other things where I just couldn't put my finger on, but oh well.

The other sides of Mikey that we saw, I really liked. I liked Serious/Angry Mikey most...and figured that the size difference between them all was a way to show how much each possess his subconscious. I found it extremely ironic that the serious/angry side was the biggest. Up until this episode, he hadn't been particularly goofy. Look at the last episode. Leo going on about not knowing how to handle the rage...Mikey's suggestion, "focus it on the demon dudes". That was good advice.

I also found the rap a bit insightful. I'm probably looking too much into it, but...I'm under the impression that Mikey does have a "rage" side, but has had more practice to keep it in check, unlike maybe Raph. In the rap, he also mentioned that he doesn't like the anger feeling. It makes him feel bad so he does his best to remain mello. Like I said, I'm probably overthinking it, but I just feel that this says a lot about the character and kind of goes nicely with the last ep, don't you think?

Also, is Mikey the only one of the four that's actually killed something? Not like what happened in the season 3 finale when that hatch opened up and one of the Triceratons flew out. I mean like an actual kill. Those Neutrinos have to be dead. Sounded like he killed them with the way they were pleading. Back in the Into Dimension X ep, I'm pretty sure he had to have killed that hollowed out Kraang he was using as a helmet.

Oh, when Mikey had the others come in on Leatherhead, Pigeon Pete, and Tigerclaw was....interesting. Foreshadowing maybe? Could it be hinting that maybe Tigerclaw will somehow finally leave Shredder and ally himself with the Turtles?

Anyway, good ep, but I wouldn't consider it filler. We learned that Dregg wants the particles too...seemingly... Why?

[oldmanwinters]

Dat Bradford disintegration...

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t50.2886-16/12530154_952647111483128_168499596_n.mp4

[Jephael]

That was definitely a feel-good episode all together. I so want a King Mikey plushie now!!!

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Oh, & for as much as I like the characters, it was nice to have a break from April & Casey & get back to square one, turtle brothers.

I think this is what I enjoyed most about the episode.

... And Little Mikey :tgrin:

[Vicky82]

Right Because Constantly Trying To Eat someone Else food While They Try To Eat it Is Not Dumb Or Annoying. It Be different If he Realize What He Was Doing Was Wrong. But He Got mad At belly Bomb And Raph Told Him To Knock It Off. Like They Were Wrong From Stopping Him From Eating.

That's not being dumb (annoying yes), that was his gluttony taking over and being curious over the different new foods. Mikey never got mad from being stopped from eating, He got mad when he went after Bellybomb from taking the money and then later he got mad a Bellybomb/Neutrinos for messing up his mind.

I Think You Mean When The Writers Want Him To Be "Badass" and Even That Is Played as a joke. He's Basically Written As Brain Dead moron Half the Time To Entertain Kids. Which I Question That Since Most Kids I Know Find It Surprising When I Tell Them Mikey Isn't A dumb joke Character Like The Last Two Cartoons Make Him Out To Be. P.S. its A problem When a kid ask why do the Turtles need Mikey.

No there were plenty of times Mikey was a badass that wasn't a joke.

So how many kids did you speak to, I assume it was more than 1000 :roll:

Well I know 2 kids (both under 10) who watch this show and they both like Mikey, so you can't speak for every kid who watches this show because they will have different opinions on him.

Also no one has complained about Mikey since The Creeping Doom, so they must be doing something right with him.

I do admit this wasn't the best Mikey centric episode because I wanted the episode to be more darker/serious and more emotional.

[Wildcat]

When I saw the info for this episode I thought, oh no...an episode full of stupid humor. But it was decent. Still I knew they were gonna have a part like the rainbow room I just knew it.

I think this was a missed opportunity for OT and maybe 4kids references but I guess they don't wanna contradict the crossover. Having OT anything exist in Mikey's mind before meeting them wouldn't really make sense.

The Neutrinos were kinda cool. They annoying me in the OT.

[Darth Knuckles]

This episode was pretty good especially since most will consider it a "filler" episode. It was great to see yet another Archie character used in the Nick cartoon in Bellybomb. I also liked that they incorporated his bad breath from the Archie comics into this episode as well.

It was interesting to see how this show made The Neutrinos villains and not very unique looking as compared to how they looked in the original cartoon. There were still three of them but that was about the only thing they had in common with their counterparts from the original cartoon. Who else thought they may open their armor and we'd maybe see the designs we were used to at some point? And did anyone else hear Vectorman's voice from Vectorman 2 when The Neutrinos "spoke?" I also liked that they were very small beings more like the science of neutrinos in the real world.

I know Raph, Leo, and Donnie didn't physically shrink down into Mikey's brain, but when they went inside Mikey's memories, it did remind me of the weird and not good May East Saga from Archie Comics too.

A lot of Archie love this episode, which I'm always thankful for, and I did really enjoy Little Mikey! He was really cute I thought! "Booyakabunga!"

[Technogeek29]

That's not being dumb (annoying yes), that was his gluttony taking over and being curious over the different new foods. Mikey never got mad from being stopped from eating, He got mad when he went after Bellybomb from taking the money and then later he got mad a Bellybomb/Neutrinos for messing up his mind.



No there were plenty of times Mikey was a badass that wasn't a joke.

So how many kids did you speak to, I assume it was more than 1000 :roll:

Well I know 2 kids (both under 10) who watch this show and they both like Mikey, so you can't speak for every kid who watches this show because they will have different opinions on him.

Also no one has complained about Mikey since The Creeping Doom, so they must be doing something right with him.

I do admit this wasn't the best Mikey centric episode because I wanted the episode to be more darker/serious and more emotional.

Oh thank god no!

EDIT: Don't get me wrong I've notice a vast improvement over season 2 and 3 put together I just still don't like this version.

[neatoman]

So can I ask why humans weren't allowed into the bar? What did humans do?

[Powder]

We are the scum of the universe, everyone knows that. :tlol:

Pollution, war, racism, sexism, the list goes on & on.

Or maybe there's someone like Torbin Zixx out there giving humans a bad name.

[matteso586]

Just now watching it on the DVR, the guy Fugitoid knows who attempted to extort them is Bellybomb?:o He has the Neutrinos who are bad guys working for him? Missed opportunity of having a good guy in Dimension X.

Uh... their not in Dimension X, their in space. Huge difference.

[TMNachoT]

It was a meh episode

[The Happy One]

It was a meh episode

Yeah, pretty much. Though the animation was spot on and had a nice imaginative trippy vibe, I have to agree with some of the guys here about Mikey’s characterization. While he has grown as a warrior - in skill and strength- his character often still reverts back to same ol' season 1 problems like just doing things for the heck of it- not thinking or, frankly, caring about consequences until he's faced with them. It's things like these that other iterations don't have issues with. So...yeah, love Mikey as an overall character. He's a great ninja with a big heart and if Nick coukd just balance him right then I'm fine.
But, yeah, I'd be totally disappointed in the episode if not for the fact that I was expecting it to be fillery in nature.

[plastroncafe]

It was good to see Bellybomb, and I loved the family interactions, but the real star of that episode was the animation.

It was beautiful. From beginning to end, just gorgeous.

[Amaranthus]

That's not being dumb (annoying yes), that was his gluttony taking over and being curious over the different new foods. Mikey never got mad from being stopped from eating, He got mad when he went after Bellybomb from taking the money and then later he got mad a Bellybomb/Neutrinos for messing up his mind.



No there were plenty of times Mikey was a badass that wasn't a joke.

So how many kids did you speak to, I assume it was more than 1000 :roll:

Well I know 2 kids (both under 10) who watch this show and they both like Mikey, so you can't speak for every kid who watches this show because they will have different opinions on him.

Also no one has complained about Mikey since The Creeping Doom, so they must be doing something right with him.

I do admit this wasn't the best Mikey centric episode because I wanted the episode to be more darker/serious and more emotional.

You give Mikey (and the writers) way more credit than they deserve.
It's painful to read.

[Atren]

So by what logic are humans banned from that space cantina?

[ranger_scout]

I actually really liked this episode. The cantina scene was a little spoof of Star Wars. Plus, the scenes where April controls Mikey's mind was like in X-Men: Days of Future Past. One of the final scenes, despite being sweet, felt like a complete copy of an episode of Pokemon. Three older brothers throwing their youngest brother in in the air was exactly the ending of The Battling Eevee Brothers. The youngest brother in that episode was also named Mikey.

[ssjup81]

It was driving me nuts who was voicing Bellybomb because I knew the voice. Now that I know....how in the world did they get Charlie Murphy to voice a character on a Nickelodeon show? lol You give Mikey (and the writers) way more credit than they deserve.
It's painful to read.In this regard, I agree with Vicky. Think about it.

I actually started watching something I hadn't thought about in years and forgot it existed until a couple of days ago. Herman's Head. I used to like the show, despite my age at the time because of the four different sides (sensitivity, lust, anxiety, intellect) of Herman clashing with one another. Sometimes one is stronger than the other and it affects his decisions. Like there was one ep where Herman was lying to a lady about who he and his friend (played by Hank Azaria) were because she was royalty and they were reporters trying to get a story (lust has the most control there and kept beating out sensitivity). Sensitivity became stronger and then beat out lust and intellect (he was all about getting the story) and Herman came out as decent for that episode and made the right, more thoughtful decision regarding the secret the princess was keeping and had confided in him as she didn't know he and his friend were reporters (she was the type to avoid them) and was approaching him as a friend.

So yeah, in that regard, I could see where Vicky is coming from. Mikey can be a glutton...at times. He's the eater of the group (and the cook). I could see his gluttonous side taking over or becoming stronger (for certain moments and seems it's always the case with new foods this season so far). Seems, based on the lyrics from the rap, Mikey has the most control over his rage/anger side....not so much the other sides of himself.

[CyberCubed]

Very bad take on the Neutrinos. I was actually hoping they were inside those robot armor bodies, but no.

So they just made some bland robots and slapped an old name on them? What was the point? They could have been any other generic robots.

And we could have had another alien faction join the Turtles against the Triceratons (similar to how the Neutrinos fought Krang in IDW), but instead we get 3 bland robots.

[Xav]

You're right. They could've just called the robots micro-bots. Which was the name of the robots created by Dregg’s assistant Mung in the old cartoon. At least that would've made some sense seeing how Bellybomb was working for Dregg.

[Casey]

Twin Peaks reference :lol:

I was happy to see that.

[Casey]

Making Use Of Our Resources: The Episode :tlol:

Jokes aside, that was an awesome ride. I really like the "trippy" episodes this show does. Fungus Humungous, Into Dreams, etc. I loved seeing Mikey's action figures come to life, & Vision Quest Leo on Leatherheads back was the coolest thing ever. The rap sequence was pretty funny. Best of all, BELLYBOMB! & that he was voiced by Charlie Murphy made my damn week. Also, reference game on point this time around. I lost count. Oh, & for as much as I like the characters, it was nice to have a break from April & Casey & get back to square one, turtle brothers.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I understand the reasons why some did not like this episode and all, but I don't mind filler episodes as long as they help drive the plot along in some ways and are still as enjoyable to watch. I also loved getting a Mikey-centric episode.

[Powder]

I hate that slice of life episodes are just considered "filler" now, or at least by this new wave of TMNT fans. Not everything has to be story driven. The turtles were built on standalone features & much of their best material is exactly that. So yeah, this episode & others like it are plenty dope in my book!

[oldmanwinters]

I hate that slice of life episodes are just considered "filler" now, or at least by this new wave of TMNT fans. Not everything has to be story driven. The turtles were built on standalone features & much of their best material is exactly that. So yeah, this episode & others like it are plenty dope in my book!

You and me both, my Turtle Brother!

[Ninjinister]

Back in the day when I used to be heavily into anime, filler was used exclusively for episodes that were placed in between episodes or story arcs adapted from the book, to allow the manga to catch up to their pace, else they be entirely overtaken. Although it was sometimes used in a derogatory manner, the term was far from it by default.

These days it seems to be used as an exclusively negative term referring to any story of any medium that isn't specifically made to move the plot of the current story arc forward. And you're right, "filler" in that sense is what the TMNT is pretty much built upon. Many of Mirage's most well-known stories, as well as a massive bulk of the '87 show's episodes, would fit this definition.

[DVD]

Filler material?? Nah, this and others like it are cool.
This one was weird and cool, and funny, and of course loads of fun.
Lots of visual ref's to keep you paying attention as well.
Only gripe - The lil bots (as someone else said) should have had a different name, unless they appear again later in the more recognisable form of the gang that included Mikey's love interest back in the day.

All said and done, I enjoyed the episode.

[Vicky82]

I wouldn't consider this a filler episode because there was an important infomation in the episode, which was getting the plans for the space ship.

If anyone skipped this episode and went straight to watching the next episode they going to wonder how the turtles got the plans in the first place.

The WYRM episode was the only filler we've had so far this season.

[CyberCubed]

TMNT isn't really a franchise with "fillers" since every episode/comic is just the Turtles on another adventure.

Its like trying to say a Batman episode is "filler" because he fights Riddler in one episode but Joker in another...uh...what? There's no such thing as filler in Batman just like TMNT.

[ssjup81]

TMNT isn't really a franchise with "fillers" since every episode/comic is just the Turtles on another adventure.Maybe as a franchise, yes, but not this show. It has a main plot and storyline. The current storyline is for the Turtles to stop the Triceratons to prevent Earth's destruction. Any episode that doesn't move that story forward can count as filler. In other words, if you can skip the episode and understand what's going on still because nothing important or relevant plot wise happened, falls into the category of being a filler episode.There's no such thing as filler in Batman just like TMNT.I can only go by Batman TAS, but in regards to that, you're right. It was an episodic series with an arc tossed in here or there. Filler wouldn't exist for that. Same for the OT.

The 2K3 and 2k12 Turtles series aren't episodic and had ongoing storylines. Episodes that detract from those are filler.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Same for the OT.
.

Any episode during seasons 3, 4 and 5 + Vacation in Europe that doesn't has Krang and Shredder trying to repower the Technodrome can be considered filler.

[Ravenshell]

I hate that slice of life episodes are just considered "filler" now, or at least by this new wave of TMNT fans. Not everything has to be story driven. The turtles were built on standalone features & much of their best material is exactly that. So yeah, this episode & others like it are plenty dope in my book!

Amen. Plus, you can't just keep hammering on the big plotline all the time, or people get plot-exhaustion... If things are 100% tense all the time, eventually you get desensitized and start counting it as the status quo.

Back in the day when I used to be heavily into anime, filler was used exclusively for episodes that were placed in between episodes or story arcs adapted from the book, to allow the manga to catch up to their pace, else they be entirely overtaken. Although it was sometimes used in a derogatory manner, the term was far from it by default.

These days it seems to be used as an exclusively negative term referring to any story of any medium that isn't specifically made to move the plot of the current story arc forward. And you're right, "filler" in that sense is what the TMNT is pretty much built upon. Many of Mirage's most well-known stories, as well as a massive bulk of the '87 show's episodes, would fit this definition.

My husband and I have noticed this about anime as well, and we were wondering if there's a term/TV Trope for the last innocent/fun/B-Plot episode before everything gets all dark and really goes to hell in the plot... anyone know of one? Calm before the storm, perhaps?

Episodic as Turtles is, "filler" in it doesn't bother me. At least it's not clips-shows (which I have big hate for). I know there's "Kicking Shell and Taking Names," or whatever it was, but at least they aren't billing that as an actual episode. In writing, every sentence is either supposed to move the plot forward, or tell something about a character... and that's kind of what I feel about the non-main-plot eps... they're more for character development and interaction. And they're a little down-time, so we can catch our breath before pounding the main plot again.


On another note entirely, were the fish with ears in Mikey's imagination straight out of Yellow Submarine??
Also, Mikey, that's the worst password ever... absolutely everyone can guess it. :P

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Although I enjoyed that April and Casey were to be left behind as well as Charlie Murphy being included, it was an okay episode, nothing interesting.

[Zak The Neutrino]

The episode as a whole was ok. However this is actually the first time this show has pissed me off.

I don't know what those little guys were but they weren't Neutrinos. I was so excited when I heard their name and then biggest let down on a show in awhile when I see what they are.

[Klunk1234]

Me too Tger Claw, I was expecting Kala. Little Mikey was cute, and to see other characters back like Ice Cream Kitty, Leatherhead, etc was fine, but the overall episode was ridiculous. I wish they stop making Mikey so stupid. He is the heart and soul of the team, not an unbearable, ridiculous clown. This an insult to what Mikey's personality really is. Pass the writers of the show some IDW copies, so they realize that Mikey is not an idiot.

Like other reviewer said, I would like to hear an actual kid doing the voice of young Mikey, not the regular actor trying to do a kid's voice.

[Technogeek29]

I wouldn't consider this filler this did contribute to the plot. i just didn't particularly care for it.

[VaughnMichael]

I liked it well enough and very happy they added Bellybomb and the fact that he was working for Lord Dregg.
I'm loving this season quite a bit and can't wait to see what fan favorite comes along next!

[victory_angel]

My husband and I have noticed this about anime as well, and we were wondering if there's a term/TV Trope for the last innocent/fun/B-Plot episode before everything gets all dark and really goes to hell in the plot... anyone know of one? Calm before the storm, perhaps?


There is a trope called Cerebus Rollercoaster which is uses when the tonal shift between dark and light plots zig zag. For example how we just went from a relatively dark episode into a light hearted episode, and straight into a dark episode one again.

The best I can give for a light hearted episode that sort of contributes to the plot but doesn't really have any place in the over all story...it's just other wise an innocent/Slice of live/b-plot is a buffer episode.

Filler is an episode that had no real bearing or contribution to the plot at large. So the Wacky World of Wyrm would count as filler because they automatically retcon it so it has no connection to the over all plot.

A buffer is episode is an episode that connects to a minor point in the episode over all main plot (Black whole parts, Dregg, Triceraton Empire) but the story itself is a breather between intense moment and another.

A calm before the storm trope doesn't exist, but there is a trope called "A storm is coming" this where we are given a sense of something ominus in foreshadowing. Mostly this is depicted in the weather such as heavy storm clouds in the horizon.

[THGhost]

I see the Nick writers are on drugs again. :lol:

Fun episode, loved all the little cameos from previous characters/villains.

The title of this thread should be "Journey to the Center of Mikey's Mind", not "Brain", btw.

Was that a Pulp Fiction reference?

Must've missed it, what was it?

Twin Peaks reference :lol:

I laughed so hard. :lol:

I thought it was a good episode, but the Neutrinos were not how I expected them, I was expecting this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18154/2996186-bkppjobtxczwbig.jpg

Instead we get this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY77EkYWwAA7Gv8.png

That's a GOOD thing! :P

[Donny's computer84]

This episode was a bit bizarre :-)
I'm wondering why the angry Mikey was the biggest version in Mikey's imagination, perhaps hidden anger towards someone? Just saying....:D

[Kingoji]

I can't believe they did Belly Bomb. I'm so happy.
If he ever comes back, let's play on the twisted surgeon angle for him, yes?

[Vicky82]

This episode was a bit bizarre :-)
I'm wondering why the angry Mikey was the biggest version in Mikey's imagination, perhaps hidden anger towards someone? Just saying....:D

Yeah I wondered about that too and I also wonder why is his funny side was so small.

I assume it's because he's got so much anger he keeps it all bottled up which is not healthy. Or his anger is under control.

In the rap song angry Mikey's said this:

“I may seem chill, but I do get mad, which makes me ill, so I try to stay rad!”

So apparently becoming angry makes him ill which is interesting and it could be due to keeping his anger all bottled up. I wondering if it's forshadowing something too.

[Ravenshell]

The episode as a whole was ok. However this is actually the first time this show has pissed me off.

I don't know what those little guys were but they weren't Neutrinos. I was so excited when I heard their name and then biggest let down on a show in awhile when I see what they are.

They're just itty-bitty Cylons. :P

[srmff]

Yeah I wondered about that too and I also wonder why is his funny side was so small.

I assume it's because he's got so much anger he keeps it all bottled up which is not healthy. Or his anger is under control.

In the rap song angry Mikey's said this:

“I may seem chill, but I do get mad, which makes me ill, so I try to stay rad!”

So apparently becoming angry makes him ill which is interesting and it could be due to keeping his anger all bottled up. I wondering if it's forshadowing something too.

I just thought that his angry side was biggest to make him more intimidating while the funny side made him seem small and cute. I didn't find it particularly odd at the time but you could be right.

[ssjup81]

Yeah I wondered about that too and I also wonder why is his funny side was so small.

I assume it's because he's got so much anger he keeps it all bottled up which is not healthy. Or his anger is under control.

In the rap song angry Mikey's said this:

“I may seem chill, but I do get mad, which makes me ill, so I try to stay rad!”

So apparently becoming angry makes him ill which is interesting and it could be due to keeping his anger all bottled up. I wondering if it's forshadowing something too.I had a theory about that in my initial post here (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1538927&postcount=63..),

The other sides of Mikey that we saw, I really liked. I liked Serious/Angry Mikey most...and figured that the size difference between them all was a way to show how much each possess his subconscious. I found it extremely ironic that the serious/angry side was the biggest. Up until this episode, he hadn't been particularly goofy. Look at the last episode. Leo going on about not knowing how to handle the rage...Mikey's suggestion, "focus it on the demon dudes". That was good advice.

I also found the rap a bit insightful. I'm probably looking too much into it, but...I'm under the impression that Mikey does have a "rage" side, but has had more practice to keep it in check, unlike maybe Raph. In the rap, he also mentioned that he doesn't like the anger feeling. It makes him feel bad so he does his best to remain mello. Like I said, I'm probably overthinking it, but I just feel that this says a lot about the character and kind of goes nicely with the last ep, don't you think?

...but also said so here...

You give Mikey (and the writers) way more credit than they deserve.
It's painful to read.In this regard, I agree with Vicky. Think about it.

I actually started watching something I hadn't thought about in years and forgot it existed until a couple of days ago. Herman's Head. I used to like the show, despite my age at the time because of the four different sides (sensitivity, lust, anxiety, intellect) of Herman clashing with one another. Sometimes one is stronger than the other and it affects his decisions. Like there was one ep where Herman was lying to a lady about who he and his friend (played by Hank Azaria) were because she was royalty and they were reporters trying to get a story (lust has the most control there and kept beating out sensitivity). Sensitivity became stronger and then beat out lust and intellect (he was all about getting the story) and Herman came out as decent for that episode and made the right, more thoughtful decision regarding the secret the princess was keeping and had confided in him as she didn't know he and his friend were reporters (she was the type to avoid them) and was approaching him as a friend.

So yeah, in that regard, I could see where Vicky is coming from. Mikey can be a glutton...at times. He's the eater of the group (and the cook). I could see his gluttonous side taking over or becoming stronger (for certain moments and seems it's always the case with new foods this season so far). Seems, based on the lyrics from the rap, Mikey has the most control over his rage/anger side....not so much the other sides of himself.

[Vicky82]

I agree with you on that Mikey has been a bit more laid back until this episode and it's probably due to witnessing Splinters death, missing Ice cream Kitty and Leatherhead as he is sensitive. Mikey didn't seem to stand out until Riddle of the Ancient Aeons.

Mikey did kill Spirit Rahzar by slitting his throat, he also killed the Mega Shredder brain.

I wonder if this was one of the episodes that was made later when Nick added the extra 6 episodes.

I haven't even checked who wrote this episode.

[ssjup81]

I agree with you on that Mikey has been a bit more laid back until this episode and it's probably due to witnessing Splinters death, missing Ice cream Kitty and Leatherhead as he is sensitive. Mikey didn't seem to stand out until Riddle of the Ancient Aeons.Yeah. Also, I noticed for that ep when they would come to their senses it was usually Mikey who would be like,"What are we doing?" Maybe Mikey really does have a really good grasp on how to deal with rage..unless he is only bottling it up. I actually hope this does foreshadow something. Maybe April possibly going dark is a red herring and Mikey will instead.Mikey did kill Spirit Rahzar by slitting his throat, he also killed the Mega Shredder brain. Yeah, but it wasn't a real kill. It wasn't the real Rahzar or a living being...although, at the time, I theorized that Mikey had a dark side given the way his kill was done compared to the others.

[Mini-Turtle]

Overall, not a bad episode. Definitely got a Psychonauts vibe from the Turtles being inside Mikey's mind. (although it must be mentioned that Mikey's mind, especially his imagination, is far wackier than anything that Raz has encountered so far.)


As for the Neutrinos, I can't say that I'm too fond of their design, but it is good to see them as I have been wanting to ever since they were first mentioned in "Danger of the Ooze".

[Vicky82]

Yeah. Also, I noticed for that ep when they would come to their senses it was usually Mikey who would be like,"What are we doing?" Maybe Mikey really does have a really good grasp on how to deal with rage..unless he is only bottling it up. I actually hope this does foreshadow something. Maybe April possibly going dark is a red herring and Mikey will instead.Yeah, but it wasn't a real kill. It wasn't the real Rahzar or a living being...although, at the time, I theorized that Mikey had a dark side given the way his kill was done compared to the others.

I thought of another thing that why Mikey could keeping all his anger in and why he doesn't seem himself, not because of Splinter because he doesn't have Ice Cream Kitty up in space with him to talk and play with.

Last season he had ICK with him at the farmhouse and they both spent a lot of time together. He talked to her about his frustrations (Buried Secrets) and they played together (The Croaking) so she kept him happy and entertained and she listened to him.

So because Mikey hasn’t got ICK, he hasn’t got anyone to play with to keep him happy and entertained and he hasn’t got anyone to talk to about his problems/frustrations so all of that is building up into big angry Mikey and keeping all his anger bottled up could be really unhealthy for him (I know he’s had a few small spurts of anger but I don’t think that’s enough), he needs to let all his anger out some how.

[tmntfanuk]

Omg! Little Mikey!

I hope we see some young dayz flashbacks. That would be awesome!

[THGhost]

They're just itty-bitty Cylons. :P

I thought that too. :P

[Splinter the boss]

It was an okay episode, however so much more could have come out of it. I was hoping to see experiences from his childhood, Mikey interacting with his brothers...
I guess I was let down.
On the other hand, I really liked professor Honeycutt this episode. The way he got behind Belly Bomb and waited for him to turn around to punch him was really cool. And, the fact that they got the schematics gets me impatient for the next episode. Seeing the turtles infiltrate the triceratons mother ship will be cool.

[cryan]

They're just itty-bitty Cylons. :P

Actually they reminded me of the Maximilian robot from the Black Hole.

[Kingoji]

Actually they reminded me of the Maximilian robot from the Black Hole.

YES.

I'm surprised that this episode didn't take the opportunity to revisit Mikey's precognative abilities, as established in season three's Vision Quest episode. While the TMNT meditate in preparation for undertaking their quests, Mikey experiences a vision of the sky swirling open before frightening himself into wakefulness.
(I think it was the Vision Quest episode. They were all sitting up in the tree tops at night.)
In fact, so little has been made of this particular piece of foreshadowing that I wouldn't be surprised if it's used as the timelines "anchor point" for when the TMNT travelled backwards six months.

[Shark_Blade]

I thought it was a good episode, but the Neutrinos were not how I expected them, I was expecting this.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18154/2996186-bkppjobtxczwbig.jpg

Instead we get this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY77EkYWwAA7Gv8.png

I agree, that's such a disappointment. What a missed opportunity.

Mere soulless robots with no personality. Sigh.

Oh well, lil Mikey makes it up.

[miru]

This is one of the few eps I watch over and over, mainly for the scenery featured.

[neatoman]

I agree, that's such a disappointment. What a missed opportunity.

Mere soulless robots with no personality. Sigh.

Oh well, lil Mikey makes it up.

Didn't most people hate the original Neutrinos for being annoying?

[srmff]

Didn't most people hate the original Neutrinos for being annoying?

I know that I did anyway.

[victory_angel]

I know that I did anyway.

The Neutrino's were okay, I just hated the 1950's lingo and the voices particularly Zak and Dask's were like nails on a chalkboard.

[ssjup81]

The Neutrino's were okay, I just hated the 1950's lingo and the voices particularly Zak and Dask's were like nails on a chalkboard.The 50s slang and lingo didn't bother me much. I guess it's because it wasn't the only series that made references to the 1950s at the time. Muppet Babies comes to mind. Oh and Back to the Future. It's probably because of the ages of those involved who had fond memories of the decade or who were born in it or grew up in it. It's like how this version of the Turtles make references to things from the 70s and 80s.