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Commenter 42
01-22-2016, 06:00 PM
And you thought I was angry about PDMT.

I've been told (from a very reliable source) they're hiring the GD team from TMNT to design the characters. The folks behind such classics as I, Frankenstein, Pixels, Gods of Egypt, and Jupiter Ascending.

Hell hath no fury kids...

AT-Man
01-22-2016, 06:03 PM
Fu*king sh*t.

Bry
01-22-2016, 06:09 PM
Sorry, He-Man fans. :(

Leo656
01-22-2016, 07:22 PM
Yeah, I heard earlier today. Pretty much the worst news I've gotten in years. :(

I blame PD's TMNT movie entirely for this, you understand. Take a property people passionately love, hand it off to people who don't care about it, let them do "their version" of it, subtract plot and backstory, add explosions, and watch the rubes eat it up with a shovel. "It worked for those guys," was definitely the thinking here. F*cking DAMN IT.

He-Man's like one of my three favorite things of all time. Frankly, I don't give a tiny sh*t about TMNT, if compared to how much I love He-Man. And a ton of stuff I've been hearing over the last few years has been spotty, but promising. I actually had hope for this.

That'll teach me. That's what we get, when a piece of sh*t like PD TMNT makes $600 million; "It's just a stupid 80s toy, the movie's just a stupid commercial, who gives a sh*t?" Thanks, guys. Thanks a f*cking LOT. Now MY thing gets to be sh*tty and awful. You can all burn for it.

Yeah I'm not happy. You can say I'm not happy.

TheSkeletonMan939
01-22-2016, 07:31 PM
I, Frankenstein, Pixels, Gods of Egypt, and Jupiter Ascending..

AKA some of the most terrible films from the past couple of years.

I've never been exposed to He-Man, but I feel really bad for anyone who enjoys the show.

NinjaPug
01-22-2016, 07:37 PM
This movie has been in development hell forever. I'd be shocked if it ever gets made.

mrmaczaps
01-22-2016, 09:42 PM
Annnnnd this would be the bad points to of today.... The original movie will suddenly be heralded as an epic film... lol

plastroncafe
01-22-2016, 09:50 PM
Jupiter Ascending was amazing, but it was ridiculous. It was just my kind of ridiculous. Those other movies were not made with someone like me in mind, so I think you guys might be on your own.

But let's be honest, he-man really was about a leather daddy fighting a skeleton so maybe it'll be okay?

Utrommaniac
01-22-2016, 10:05 PM
Oh noooo!

This is just going to crash and burn like a poorly manned firework.

Kind of have to laugh at how pitiful this is going to turn out.

sdp
01-22-2016, 10:18 PM
He-Man just doesn't work as live action, it would need a very wild re-imagining for it to work which fans would never accept.

Utrommaniac
01-22-2016, 10:23 PM
That's true...we know how well the last live-action attempt went.

Leo656
01-22-2016, 10:27 PM
Bullsh*t, conceptually it's just Conan plus Star Wars. Don't be stupid. "Can't work in live action." Please. You take two types of movies that make tons of money, and you marry them, you should have a concept worth ALL the money. Math, f*ckers.

It can work a million different ways, it just has to be made by someone who wants to take it seriously and not make fun of it. Which is asking too much of Hollywood right now insofar as anything based on anything from the 1980s. Lots of things that could be really good are being done terribly because Hollywood learns the exact wrong lesson from every single "success". Half-assed sh*t like Transformers and TMNT make money, so they figure, "This sh*t's easy, all we have to do is hit the catchphrases, and occasionally stop to point out how silly and insipid this whole thing we're doing is. People will forgive stupidity and lack of effort if we convince them it's entirely on purpose." And people pay to see those movies knowing they'll be terrible, and then you get a movie like f*cking JEM, because that's about as hard as the people making these movies now think they need to try.

Conan plus Star Wars. It should be the easiest and most goddamn epic thing ever made. I'd write and direct the goddamn thing for free. It should be impossible to f*ck up, not impossible to get right.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 12:06 AM
Jupiter Ascending was amazing, but it was ridiculous. It was just my kind of ridiculous.

The idea could've been something. (I just netflixed it a week ago, so it's fresh), but the script was, well it's what the Wachowskis do now - long on needless exposition, short on sensible film making.

There were some big ideas, stuff that could have been great to explore - but so much talkie talkie to get to the good stuff. T'was a movie in need of an editor.


But let's be honest, he-man really was about a leather daddy fighting a skeleton so maybe it'll be okay?

Y'all may hate Tosh, but his He-man musical is the best thing, ever.
http://tosh.cc.com/blog/files/2015/08/He-Man_Coustumes.jpg

With an ex Menudo as the titular character, bears playing Man-at-arms and other Eternians, and Tosh as Skeletor...

xPVfilYC3aY

McG can't possibly do better. I mean, which A-lister is willing to be Fist-O?

WARNING:
Contains hilarity.

http://tosh.cc.com/video-clips/743wy4/extended---he-man--the-musical---uncensored?tags=Video%2BBreakdown

shuriken
01-23-2016, 01:07 AM
Jupiter Ascending was amazing, but it was ridiculous. It was just my kind of ridiculous. Those other movies were not made with someone like me in mind, so I think you guys might be on your own.

But let's be honest, he-man really was about a leather daddy fighting a skeleton so maybe it'll be okay?

Was never big on He-Man so I kinda agree. Other than Skeletor berating his minions I never really bothered to watch.
But now I wanna see Jupiter Ascending.

Leo656
01-23-2016, 01:32 AM
Well, now I know exactly which godless heathens are getting a f*cking voodoo doll made in their likeness. Good thing I'm snowed in all weekend with lots of bitter hatred and free time.

But seriously, if you feel any sudden stabbing pains, F*CKING GOOD FOR YOU. :flaming::flaming::flaming:

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 01:40 AM
@Shuriken

He-Man is, actually, the best thing ever. It has everything you could possibly want in fantasy. It's equal parts LOTR, Franzetta, Flash Gordon, King Arthur, Conan, Dune, The Seven Seals and Star Wars.
Done right...and I mean George Miller/JJ. Abrams/Luc Besson on their best days, it would make ALL the money; not a lot or a bunch, but actually all of it.

A Brittish billion.

#fact

Leo656
01-23-2016, 01:44 AM
Can I hug you? Because nobody's ever really gotten it so hard before. I want to cry. Seriously.

"...I thought *I* was the only one...!" It's like that, that's what I'm feeling right now.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 01:50 AM
Can I hug you? Because nobody's ever really gotten it so hard before. I want to cry. Seriously.

"...I thought *I* was the only one...!" It's like that, that's what I'm feeling right now.

When people ask me why I got into film, He-Man was always the answer...It's the one film I KNOW I could make the hell out of. My Superman film would have been good, but He-Man; it's everything a Fantasy film should be.

Leo656
01-23-2016, 02:17 AM
And it's amazing and saddening to me that people don't Get It. It's like anyone who didn't grow up watching it dismisses it as "What's to like" And I'm like, "What's NOT to like?" It's got literally everything that's awesome in it. Warriors and wizards and dragons and monsters and magic swords and buff protagonists and scantily-clad heroines AND spaceships and robots and... why isn't this stuff mandatory viewing for all kids, again? I don't get it.

But I guess it's worthless because it happened to be made by an animation company that operated on a shoestring budget, while nonetheless mastering the art of Rotoscoping. :roll: People nowadays look at Filmation and they're like, "What a bunch of dollar store horse sh*t," but y'know what I see? A company that made the absolute most out of every single thing they could. They brought an entire universe to life - several, really, lots of their shows were successful and popular - with piles of stock footage and a total of about three voice actors for every show. People now go, "Man, people must have been stupid to sit through that," as if we didn't notice. WE DIDN'T CARE! The characters and the stories were enthralling and exciting in SPITE of the shoestring production values; kids just considered it part of the package, and most really loved it. They loved that it was the same shot of He-Man punching someone every time, and they especially loved the transformation sequence. It never changed once in 130 episodes, but it was every single kid's favorite part. Didn't matter that we'd seen it (and acted it out, don't lie) a thousand times; we weren't all spoiled brats yet.

And even beyond that, you had those amaaaaaazing mini-comics that came with the first batch of figures... the ones produced by DC before the storyline had been completed, where the whole thing was much more "Conan" and taken a lot more seriously. Those things were just tops.

And I mean, not for nothing, but the whole thing is a LOT deeper than people give it credit for. Even when it was "just" the mini-comics and the cartoon, you had a ton of mythology there, even going back thousands of years to "Preternia" and He-Ro and "Powers of Grayskull" and all that stuff near the end of the toyline's popularity. But now there's not only the 2003 update, but with the Matty Collector figures they've gone and merged the originals, New Adventures, the film universe, and 2003 into one cohesive mythology, plus added a ton of stuff to give the saga a proper "ending" of sorts with The Ultimate Battleground. It's really all quite epic.

People who are so readily dismissive of it really have no idea what they're talking about. "Ohhh, cheaply-made kiddie cartoon! Stock animation! Homo-erotic subtext!" Yeah, whatever, blow it out your ass, you myopic swine.

It absolutely rivals anything else in the fantasy/sci-fi genres, 100%. If anything, it's like Lord of the Rings for people who aren't COMPLETELY insufferable nerds.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 02:39 AM
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Candy Kappa
01-23-2016, 03:10 AM
I, Frankenstein got some okay creature design, I mean it's nothing that stands out as amazing or downright awful, it's just there being kinda boring. the Basic face design for the gargoyles is kinda reminiscent of a generic feline Thunderian face.

Gods of Egypt, looks so ridiculous with mostly white actors playing African gods that transforms into huge armored guys fighting. It's great in that "so bad it's good". The Creature Designs aren't bad per se.

But, we already had had great Creature Designs in MOTU. Just have the freaking FourHorsemen do a realistic design, they've done this for years now, and basically have He-Man in their veins designing both the relaunch cartoon from 2002 and the Classics Toyline.



He-Man is, actually, the best thing ever. It has everything you could possibly want in fantasy. It's equal parts LOTR, Franzetta, Flash Gordon, King Arthur, Conan, Dune, The Seven Seals and Star Wars.


Wrapped in glistening, bronze tanned, beefcake galore.

Leo656
01-23-2016, 03:12 AM
42: Siiiiiigh. It's amazing what people can accomplish with actual loving care.

AT-Man
01-23-2016, 07:17 AM
I'm not good with words, so I'll just go ahead and agree with everything Commenter and Leo said. It might be good if the designers didn't care and "just" made the characters like they were in Filmation and 200X cartoons. If they have brilliant ideas how to make them look modern like the Turtles, keep that sh*t to themselves. Eternia isn't Earth and they don't need to make pop culture references.

shuriken
01-23-2016, 08:49 AM
Well, now I know exactly which godless heathens are getting a f*cking voodoo doll made in their likeness. Good thing I'm snowed in all weekend with lots of bitter hatred and free time.

But seriously, if you feel any sudden stabbing pains, F*CKING GOOD FOR YOU. :flaming::flaming::flaming:

Wow butthurt much:lol:
I get it and respect your opinion I just disagree.
With that said caught a good chunk of the 2003 series and from what I saw it was pretty good.
Those classic MOTU figures were boss as well.
Honestly McG is ok, gets more hate than he deserves IMO. :tcouch:

ProactiveMan
01-23-2016, 09:47 AM
Oh man! What?! Your going to let a guy with a hamburger for a name direct Masters of the Universe? Well this is certainly a punch in the crotch. Maybe it will be fine, but if Dr Phil is right, and past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior, then all signs point to no.

They just have to get a few tonal elements right; even if they change details, and redesign everything for no reason, they can still make a good movie if they don't miss the point completely. Terminator Salvation missed the point completely.

He-Man was my first obsession, and as dumb as this sounds, that show was a corner stone of my early life.

ABrown
01-23-2016, 10:00 AM
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http://img12.deviantart.net/89c4/i/2012/207/5/f/motuc_beast_man_by_aldgerrelpa-d58q8xb.jpg
http://img10.deviantart.net/5567/i/2012/207/3/5/motuc_stratos_by_aldgerrelpa-d58qa85.jpg
http://img07.deviantart.net/bdb3/i/2012/351/6/f/moss_man_by_aldgerrelpa-d5od1eu.jpg
http://img10.deviantart.net/8b9d/i/2012/207/0/f/motuc_faker_by_aldgerrelpa-d58q9ww.jpg
http://img08.deviantart.net/c987/i/2012/243/b/0/motuc_sorceress_by_aldgerrelpa-d5d1lp6.jpg
http://pauravarino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/comic-con-2015-sideshow-collectibles-skeletor-pau-ravarino-684x1024.jpg

The female images are pretty hot...

Bry
01-23-2016, 10:35 AM
First thought when I read the news: "McG? Why, was Brett Ratner unavailable?"

turtle1237
01-23-2016, 11:23 AM
@Shuriken

He-Man is, actually, the best thing ever. It has everything you could possibly want in fantasy. It's equal parts LOTR, Franzetta, Flash Gordon, King Arthur, Conan, Dune, The Seven Seals and Star Wars.
Done right...and I mean George Miller/JJ. Abrams/Luc Besson on their best days, it would make ALL the money; not a lot or a bunch, but actually all of it.

A Brittish billion.

#fact

Demon Dogs no, He-man was just a rip off of a better more amazing show. This show had Bug Aliens, evil Wizards that enslave mankind, Lightsaviors, starships, Wookies, ruin citys, a cute swamp girl, King Kong, Battle ready Statue of a liberty, ten times better sorceress and might I say hotter than the one that show up in He-man. She also has a better butt than Teela lol.

This show had it all. And to date I think only the Ninja Turtles, and perhaps Batman TAS can stand up to its coolness.

This show should of had a movie before He-man.

snake
01-23-2016, 11:25 AM
It still has a chance to be decent, right? I mean it's He Man, not too hard to f*ck it up.

DarkFell
01-23-2016, 03:41 PM
Demon Dogs no, He-man was just a rip off of a better more amazing show. This show had Bug Aliens, evil Wizards that enslave mankind, Lightsaviors, starships, Wookies, ruin citys, a cute swamp girl, King Kong, Battle ready Statue of a liberty, ten times better sorceress and might I say hotter than the one that show up in He-man. She also has a better butt than Teela lol.

This show had it all. And to date I think only the Ninja Turtles, and perhaps Batman TAS can stand up to its coolness.

This show should of had a movie before He-man.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/comicbookguy.jpg
Source please. Thank you.

turtle1237
01-23-2016, 05:49 PM
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/comicbookguy.jpg
Source please. Thank you.

I was sure the word Demon Dogs gave it away.

Thundarr the barbarian

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 06:39 PM
I was sure the word Demon Dogs gave it away.

Thundarr the barbarian

Dafuq?

Thundarr isn't worthy of washing He-Mans fur thong.
Lol, If McG was directing Thundarr, nary a **** would be given, by anyone.:lol:

Wow butthurt much:lol:
I get it and respect your opinion I just disagree.
With that said caught a good chunk of the 2003 series and from what I saw it was pretty good.
Those classic MOTU figures were boss as well.
Honestly McG is ok, gets more hate than he deserves IMO. :tcouch:

When people who use the word butthurt, I imagine them looking somthing like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000309145233/0c3ee86ecd9886bd22e236876c8a9eb1.jpeg

Can we get that fvcking word banned already?

MsMarvelDuckie
01-23-2016, 08:11 PM
If anything, Thundarr was the "cheap rip-off". Of Conan. At least He-Man had a better story to it. And more characterization. And.... Y'know what? I'ma agree with Leo and 42 here.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 08:15 PM
If anything, Thundarr was the "cheap rip-off". Of Conan. At least He-Man had a better story to it. And more characterization. And.... Y'know what? I'ma agree with Leo and 42 here.

http://www.slangstrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Respect-bow.jpg

Leo656
01-23-2016, 08:16 PM
:lol: I like shuriken. He's a kid, he don't know any better.

But yeah, the word "butt-hurt" should be something you can hit someone in the face for. "Your honor, the defendant admits he did indeed punch the plaintiff square in the face, shattering all but two of his teeth and resigning him to eating the remainder of his life's meals through a straw, BUT, I say this to you, in his defense: The plaintiff accused him of being... (long, dramatic pause) ... 'Butt-Hurt'." "I see your point. Not only is the defendant Not Guilty, but I hereby sentence the plaintiff to death."

Thundarr is okay but you can't even compare the cultural impact. I like what I've seen of it but it's not like more than ten people would care if they announced a movie of that. It'd be nice if there was, but eh.

It's not the character designs I'm super-worried about. It's that McG is an awful director, who's only "success" is a Terminator movie that apparently only I think isn't worthless, that probably would have been worthless if Bale wasn't carrying it. Frankly, I expect some of the characters will look different, I mean the 80s movie characters looked fine, to me, even then I never expected them to look 1:1 like the cartoons. I just think the guy is a crummy director and that the movie itself is probably gonna suck. :ohwell:

MsMarvelDuckie
01-23-2016, 08:20 PM
http://www.slangstrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Respect-bow.jpg


Aww, shucks..... :toops: Thanks, man.


And Dolph Lundgren was pure beefcake. He BELONGED in that movie!! Also, Skeletor was dead-on, so there's that. Too bad Orko wasn't in it....

Leo656
01-23-2016, 08:26 PM
Once you get past the whole "It was set on Earth and not Eternia for budget reasons" it's not a bad movie at all. It's definitely one of the best action/sci-fi films of the 80s. People always tell me it's awful, but when I challenge them to name 5 movies of the 80s from that genre that are better, they can't. Another movie that "failed" simply by being a few shades off - out of necessity - from its source material. It looks great, it's a lot of fun, it's got heart, and Cox wasn't a coked-up scarecrow yet. What's not to like?

Also, since I forgot to mention it before, nobody had a better ass than Teela, no matter what whatshisname said. :trazz: That's why they used that stock footage shot of Teela squatting down to jump, sticking her ass in the camera, about 2 or 3 times every single episode. They knew what they were doin'. :trazz:

GoldMutant
01-23-2016, 08:28 PM
:flaming:

What is so difficult to make a good He-Man series? I mean, it had an awesome cartoon in the 2000's (Cam Clarke as He-Man!) and is the pure definition of a franchise with great potential. The over the top action, the fantasy type of adventures to partake in, memorable characters, etc. Now you want to give McG, a guy who has rather average to below average work at best in directing as the man in charge?

I would kill for the franchise to go live action on television easily, but give him a good movie but not with a director with that type of work. (the old movie though is a guilty pleasure though. (:P) Maybe one day, He-Man will get a true opportunity to shine in the next generation. :ohwell:

turtle1237
01-23-2016, 08:38 PM
If anything, Thundarr was the "cheap rip-off". Of Conan. At least He-Man had a better story to it. And more characterization. And.... Y'know what? I'ma agree with Leo and 42 here.

Perhaps, but a lot of elements that were in He-man did come from Thundarr, hell they were both blond muscle bound heros lol. They could be brothers lol.

Not sure about "better" story? A torn world, with man kind on the verg of slavery, if they are not out right slaves all ready. Wizards are the ruleing class because they have powers and the weapons, and minions. In the troubles of this order, one man, Thundarr stands up for man kind, going from broken down town to broken down town, and fighting for freedom. A former slave, frees himself and wants others free. In its short run, I think the story was amazing.

In He-man, he is a prince, a weak one at that lol, Teela can kick his ass lol. He defends Castle Greyskull from well, you get the point. Here, He-man is not beating,living in a waste land, outside of fighting evil, he enjoys life in the castle with family, being attended too, living the royal life, Thundarr lives off the land, and is trying to bring order back to the way it was, it will never be old Earth, but at least Man kind can rebuild once the Wizards are defeated.

Other thing, He-man mostly never kills any one. Thundarr?? Most of the villians Thundarr face are killed off, even the only villian that return Gemini got killed off the 2nd time around.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 08:38 PM
The same dick cheese that made Mike look like a mangled mess, and gave Donny that ugly proton pack, is doing the designs. NO!!!!!!

NO!!!!!

This is not allowed. That muther should be unclogging urinals in Florida.

turtle1237
01-23-2016, 08:43 PM
:lol: I like shuriken. He's a kid, he don't know any better.

But yeah, the word "butt-hurt" should be something you can hit someone in the face for. "Your honor, the defendant admits he did indeed punch the plaintiff square in the face, shattering all but two of his teeth and resigning him to eating the remainder of his life's meals through a straw, BUT, I say this to you, in his defense: The plaintiff accused him of being... (long, dramatic pause) ... 'Butt-Hurt'." "I see your point. Not only is the defendant Not Guilty, but I hereby sentence the plaintiff to death."

Thundarr is okay but you can't even compare the cultural impact. I like what I've seen of it but it's not like more than ten people would care if they announced a movie of that. It'd be nice if there was, but eh.

It's not the character designs I'm super-worried about. It's that McG is an awful director, who's only "success" is a Terminator movie that apparently only I think isn't worthless, that probably would have been worthless if Bale wasn't carrying it. Frankly, I expect some of the characters will look different, I mean the 80s movie characters looked fine, to me, even then I never expected them to look 1:1 like the cartoons. I just think the guy is a crummy director and that the movie itself is probably gonna suck. :ohwell:

Well, the main reason was He-man was the first cartoon to sell toys. I mean a major market for toys, that 3 years earlier, Thundarr and other cartoons, never got the chance that He-man did.

With the show, and the toys, and the major profits, shows like My Little Pony, GI Joe, BraveStarr and Sh-ra, All will have there toy line, and will bring in the big bucks. He-man started it, and I take nothing away from it, but I felt Thundarr was the better show.

Leo656
01-23-2016, 08:48 PM
Standards and practices means He-Man could barely even hit bad guys, let alone kill them. The shows were made years apart and "the rules" changed along the way between Thundarr and MOTU. That's hardly a valid critique.

Further, in the original storyline, He-Man lived in the jungle as a nomadic barbarian and had no connection to the royal family. :trazz: He was merely a Wandering Badass who righted wrongs with his giant axe (the Power Sword was originally more of an Excalibur "Only-Those-Who-Are-Worthy" kind of deal and not specifically "his" weapon, in the original comic he even returned it to the stone he drew it from after defeating Skeletor, rather than keep it for himself).

Anyways, enough semantics. There's nothing "wrong" with Thundarr but if you honestly expect the general public to have the same fond remembrance about that property the way they do for MOTU, well, they don't, and they never will. Life's not fair sometimes.

I honestly only barely saw Thundarr when it was fresh but I just recently made a big list of old cartoon shows I have to buy, and rest assured that one made the list. :trazz: It's not about which is "better", for me, because nothing is ever going to top He-Man, but the whole "Star Wars meets Dungeons and Dragons" concept, I'm a huge fan of regardless of where it's being done.

GoldMutant
01-23-2016, 08:51 PM
It might be odd for me to bring this up, but in the spirit of the franchise, have you seen the 2002 television series Leo? Any thoughts on it?

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 08:52 PM
it had an awesome cartoon in the 2000's (Cam Clarke as He-Man!) and is the pure definition of a franchise with great potential.

Yeah, it was alright, but the Filmation days are the gold. You don't do He-Man by referencing the re-boot cartoon. It was fine and had some neat stories... but it's missing a lot of what made the original so incredible. It's a color tone and design esthetic. The 2000 version was an attempt to improve on something that needs no improvement.


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turtle1237
01-23-2016, 08:55 PM
Standards and practices means He-Man could barely even hit bad guys, let alone kill them. The shows were made years apart and "the rules" changed along the way between Thundarr and MOTU. That's hardly a valid critique.

Further, in the original storyline, He-Man lived in the jungle as a nomadic barbarian and had no connection to the royal family. :trazz: He was merely a Wandering Badass who righted wrongs with his giant axe (the Power Sword was originally more of an Excalibur "Only-Those-Who-Are-Worthy" kind of deal and not specifically "his" weapon, in the original comic he even returned it to the stone he drew it from after defeating Skeletor, rather than keep it for himself).

Anyways, enough semantics. There's nothing "wrong" with Thundarr but if you honestly expect the general public to have the same fond remembrance about that property the way they do for MOTU, well, they don't, and they never will. Life's not fair sometimes.

I honestly only barely saw THundarr when it was fresh but I just recently made a big list of old cartoon shows I have to buy, and rest assured that one made the list. :trazz: It's not about which is "better", for me, because nothing is ever going to top He-Man, but the whole "Star Wars meets Dungeons and Dragons" concept, I'm a huge fan of regardless of where it's being done.

Well, yeah the rules change, but I think the toy line was a major point in the impact that would become He-man. Yeah Thundarr did great for its day, but what made it great was also its Achilles heel, parent groups would rebel against cartoons like Thundarr and pretty much take out the violence out of cartoon programs. With the Violence and out cry cartoons like Thundarr got the can(Though the last show was amazing)
He-man follow the rules, and had a long run vs the 2 seasons of Thundarr.

GoldMutant
01-23-2016, 08:57 PM
Yeah, it was alright, but the Filmation days are the gold. You don't do He-Man by referencing the re-boot cartoon. It was fine and had some neat stories... but it's missing a lot of what made the original so incredible. It's a color tone and design esthetic. The 2000 version was an attempt to improve on something that needs no improvement.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/38/92/92/389292a5c6189d263a8e6cdbfbcde554.jpg

Not gonna lie, but I still have fun watching the old cartoon even if not my cup of tea at times. That said, I'd honestly be curious if any diehard fans of the series can write an awesome narrative for a movie or television series. I'm more of a casual He-Man fan than I am to say other products, but damn the series is oozing something great. I'm not holding my breath on McG though; maybe some fans can join forces to make a movie independently? :ohwell:

turtle1237
01-23-2016, 09:03 PM
Funny thing is both He-man and Thundarr share a voice actor that would voice one each of there greatness foes, or for Thundarr, perhaps his 2nd greatness foe(Argument vs Gemini)

Alan Oppenheimer voice Mindok the mind menace, and Skeletor for He-man.

Not bad, being the voice of 2 of the biggest villians in cartoon history.

Leo656
01-23-2016, 09:21 PM
It might be odd for me to bring this up, but in the spirit of the franchise, have you seen the 2002 television series Leo? Any thoughts on it?

I love it, I think it's as perfect as "reboots/reimaginings" get. It was different in some necessary ways - like going to an anime-inspired aesthetic because that's all the kids reacted to in 2003 - but kept most things recognizable. I liked that the villains were more of a threat. Not so crazy about Young Adam and He-Man having to "grow into his role", but even then, it's still a really good show. They had one subpar reimagining with "New Adventures" (which is Fine as its own thing but doesn't come close to the original), and a few aborted ones that wouldn't have been very good ("He-Ro: Son of He-Man"), so frankly, given what we had and almost had, the 2003 series does have a special place for me. It brought the classic series back in a way that didn't screw everything up, or treat the old show like garbage that needed "fixing".

I'll never like it more than the original but it's a very good show. Still the best "reboot/reimagining" I've seen, with TMNT 2K3 a close second.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 09:43 PM
Not gonna lie, but I still have fun watching the old cartoon even if not my cup of tea at times. That said, I'd honestly be curious if any diehard fans of the series can write an awesome narrative for a movie or television series. I'm more of a casual He-Man fan than I am to say other products, but damn the series is oozing something great. I'm not holding my breath on McG though; maybe some fans can join forces to make a movie independently? :ohwell:

I liked that they went for a serial approach in 2000, and I also really like the emphasis on scale (King Grayskulls' Battle lion for example, being the size of an Elephant), as well as some backstory given to Keldor.

That said, my absolute favorite part of any 80's toon, are the micro moments of character.

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Maybe not the best example, but I'm a fan of the little moments in shows.

Cure
01-23-2016, 09:47 PM
I don't like when Skeletor is used as an insult for skinny people. Skeletor is swole; he just has a skull for a head.

Commenter 42
01-23-2016, 09:52 PM
There's only one Skeletor on the planet right now:
She even cackles like him...:lol:


Oh Wendy...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWyQxpVXIAA5IEA.jpg

Commenter 42
01-24-2016, 05:04 AM
I know this is fan art... but thoughts?

http://www.he-man.org/assets/images/com_imgs/defenderofgrayskulllarge_full.jpg

Candy Kappa
01-24-2016, 05:53 AM
^^That's pretty solid work.

Stjepan Sejic does some amazing MOTU art, both fan-made and official iirc. His deviant art page is worth a watch.

ProactiveMan
01-24-2016, 07:02 AM
I know this is fan art... but thoughts?

http://www.he-man.org/assets/images/com_imgs/defenderofgrayskulllarge_full.jpg

Skillz! Not sure about the beard though.

I liked that they went for a serial approach in 2000, and I also really like the emphasis on scale (King Grayskulls' Battle lion for example, being the size of an Elephant), as well as some backstory given to Keldor.

That said, my absolute favorite part of any 80's toon, are the micro moments of character.

Maybe not the best example, but I'm a fan of the little moments in shows.

Here is a similar one Dreamworks have on their channel...
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I wonder if that would fly nowadays, or would parents fire off angry Tweets the first time their kid called them a bungling boob?

plastroncafe
01-24-2016, 10:38 AM
And it's amazing and saddening to me that people don't Get It. It's like anyone who didn't grow up watching it dismisses it as "What's to like" And I'm like, "What's NOT to like?" It's got literally everything that's awesome in it. Warriors and wizards and dragons and monsters and magic swords and buff protagonists and scantily-clad heroines AND spaceships and robots and... why isn't this stuff mandatory viewing for all kids, again? I don't get it.

...

People who are so readily dismissive of it really have no idea what they're talking about. "Ohhh, cheaply-made kiddie cartoon! Stock animation! Homo-erotic subtext!" Yeah, whatever, blow it out your ass, you myopic swine.

It absolutely rivals anything else in the fantasy/sci-fi genres, 100%. If anything, it's like Lord of the Rings for people who aren't COMPLETELY insufferable nerds.

Dude, there was NOTHING subtexual about the homoeroticism in that cartoon. Nothing. Supertext might be a more accurate word to describe that cartoon.

I'm old enough to have watched it as it aired on tv the first time. It didn't really ring my bell. I got all excited for She-Ra...which was just a weak attempt to flip the script of a show I already didn't care about.

Toys were cool though.

The female images are pretty hot...

They have to be, to balance the Supertext. It's the same reason we have Bat Girl.

Dafuq?

When people who use the word butthurt, I imagine them looking somthing like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000309145233/0c3ee86ecd9886bd22e236876c8a9eb1.jpeg

Can we get that fvcking word banned already?

HA! Nah, butthurt stays, it's just too perfect for some situations. And that image, is exactly the face of a butthurt person. Or at least that's how I imagine you lot look when your knickers are in a twist about something.


But yeah, the word "butt-hurt" should be something you can hit someone in the face for. "Your honor, the defendant admits he did indeed punch the plaintiff square in the face, shattering all but two of his teeth and resigning him to eating the remainder of his life's meals through a straw, BUT, I say this to you, in his defense: The plaintiff accused him of being... (long, dramatic pause) ... 'Butt-Hurt'." "I see your point. Not only is the defendant Not Guilty, but I hereby sentence the plaintiff to death."

See? This rant? Butthurt.
You're welcome to take a swing, if you like. I won't even duck. But instead you'll be telling the judge:
Your honor, this woman said He-man was a leather daddy fighting a skeleton, and then insinuated I was overreacting like a toddler who attempts to walk, and fails. So I punched all of her teeth out. Or tried to, because little did I know she was titanium reinforced.

Commenter 42
01-24-2016, 11:45 AM
Also, since I forgot to mention it before, nobody had a better ass than Teela, no matter what whatshisname said. :trazz: That's why they used that stock footage shot of Teela squatting down to jump, sticking her ass in the camera, about 2 or 3 times every single episode. They knew what they were doin'. :trazz:

Amazing.
http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/tie.jpg

turtle1237
01-24-2016, 01:00 PM
Amazing.
http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/tie.jpg

Its great, but I put Princess Ariel over Teela. Look at the thinkness of that booty.

AT-Man
01-24-2016, 02:14 PM
I know this is fan art... but thoughts?

http://www.he-man.org/assets/images/com_imgs/defenderofgrayskulllarge_full.jpg

Phenomenal! I love that Strong-Or and Goatman are also featured, and that's the best look for Webstor I could ask for.

Commenter 42
01-24-2016, 05:32 PM
Its great, but I put Princess Ariel over Teela. Look at the thinkness of that booty.

HAHA!!

It's a butt-off! I'll take both.

Leo656
01-24-2016, 06:44 PM
C42: That fan-art you posted was pretty spiffy, brah. I dig that quite a bit.
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Not gonna bother with people projecting what they want to see into things that were absolutely not done that way on purpose, just so they can have a laugh at others' expense for actually liking the property/taking it seriously.

And for the record, regardless of how anyone tries to spin it, terms like "butt-hurt" and "u mad bro" and any variation thereof means the person speaking is not to be listened to on account of they're a child. "Internet Troll-Speak" has zero place in actual conversation. You want to tease people for liking something you don't like, fine... actually, no, it's rather childish, but whatever... I don't care who it is, but the second someone resorts to using phrases like "butt-hurt", 'Hater", "fanboy", etc., I'm no longer interested in hearing what they have to say. It especially annoys me when it comes from people who I know for a fact are better than that. Unless maybe they're not and I've misplaced my faith in them entirely.

Seriously. I might just start a thread about "Rape As A Plot Device And Why It's Justified", just so I can accuse dissenters of being "butt-hurt". Because that makes a person witty AND intelligent, apparently, and not just a sh*t-disturber.

plastroncafe
01-24-2016, 07:02 PM
Just to make sure I'm on the same page:
Dismissive net speak is out, but internet tough guy threats of hyperbolic violence are still in?

Also...my decades long self-identification as a "fanboy" has resulted in loss of favor from the self-appointed disciplinarian of the board.

It's been an enlightening day.

Back on topic.
I'm trying to imagine what a sincere modern He-Man would look like, but...I don't know that I've seen anything that encapsulates the property without the result being camp.

I mean...300 was as ridiculous on screen as it was on the page.
There's already been mention of Jupiter Ascending, which again...I quite liked, but which knew it was camp when it started.

Maybe the closest thing would be Thor 2? Or perhaps the upcoming Aquaman?

I'd say Game of Thrones, but...there's not really a tech aspect there for comparison. Too much magical realism.

ProactiveMan
01-24-2016, 07:13 PM
So make it camp. Those Marvel movies are camp as f*ck, and everyone seems to like them. Thor is probably a good comparison, although I'd hope it would be a touch more colourful.

I may be in a minority here, but I don't really want a 'bad-ass' He-Man movie; I think I'd be happier with a campy one. Could be wrong though - I often don't know what I want.

plastroncafe
01-24-2016, 07:23 PM
That's why I loved the utter ridiculousness that was/is Jupiter Ascending. It's the kind of movie you'd get if you let a 13 year old girl make a big budget popcorn flick.

It was all princesses, pretty dresses, space battles, and hunky dudes.
Tina Belcher approves.

Leo656
01-24-2016, 07:34 PM
Alright, I'll be blunt. You came into a thread about something you don't care about - but others do - solely for the purposes of dropping snark-bombs and stirring sh*t. Then when people tell you it's not appreciated, you double-down. I know you get your kicks this way, but this is one of those times when it's far more irritating than endearing.

But whatever. One more thread about something I like that I can't post in because people insist on sh*tting it up with garbage. Bye.

plastroncafe
01-24-2016, 07:54 PM
Wow, okay. That was so not my intent. I didn't come in here to ****-stir, but to talk about He-Man, and how at least the production company people do decent work in spite of the quality of the overall end results.

Sorry man.

Commenter 42
01-24-2016, 08:29 PM
So make it camp. Those Marvel movies are camp as f*ck, and everyone seems to like them. Thor is probably a good comparison, although I'd hope it would be a touch more colourful.

I may be in a minority here, but I don't really want a 'bad-ass' He-Man movie; I think I'd be happier with a campy one. Could be wrong though - I often don't know what I want.

It doesn't have to be one or the other.

It's a fantasy film. You do it as is, but play it relatively straight. You also don't try and re-imagine it for film; not required - Just enhance what's there.

This is a film that lives and dies by it's production design, simple as that.

shuriken
01-24-2016, 10:42 PM
Wow, okay. That was so not my intent. I didn't come in here to ****-stir, but to talk about He-Man, and how at least the production company people do decent work in spite of the quality of the overall end results.

Sorry man.

Kinda my feelings. I was just amused by Leo's reaction is all.
On a lighter note I think we can all agree that this movie will be marginally better than the PD or Imagi TMNT movies right?

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 12:17 AM
Kinda my feelings. I was just amused by Leo's reaction is all.
On a lighter note I think we can all agree that this movie will be marginally better than the PD or Imagi TMNT movies right?

My fear, as a fan, is that it will be worse. Bay makes a typical kind of bad, which can be, at times, fun/good, in a perverse way you don't really want but might enjoy. TF 1 was an example of a rehash that was fun, if a distorted and kaleidoscopic version of the source.

PDMT is fundamentally awful, even if it wasn't a TMNT film. Swap the central characters out with anyone else,(to eliminate fanboy rage); if this was a movie about Dwayne, Abbey, John, and Delmar - it would still be awful.
If we look at McG's past, we can predict what sort of film this will be, and I haven't read a single comment that responded with "oh good!". None. Either you care, as I do, because of an inescapable feeling of nostalgia; or you don't.
Bras tax, this has the potential to be a massive film, in the right hands, and McG is entirely the wrong guy.
If Cameron were to fall in love with Eternia, as he did with Avatar/the oceans, and was as obsessive in creating Eternia, with all the pageantry of Eternia, you'd get the sort of film it could be. This isn't to say that I think Cameron is the end all be all, but I can't think of another director whose visualls come close (LOTR, while full of details, was still Earth based, something Eternia needs to stay away from.)

It shouldn't be conflated with something as ridiculous as Jupiter Ascending, which isn't in anyway the same sort of story. Eternia is it's own planet, in another universe. It's not about a human, doing something in our Universe. It's bigger than that. Jupiter was an allegorical tale similar to John Carter, with some conspiratorial ideas about the universe, hamfisted into Dorothy's journey to Oz. The story, had workable elements, but it was a total mess of shoddy design and sloppy directing. The story they wanted to tell was strangled under the weight of its own smugness.

ProactiveMan
01-25-2016, 02:47 AM
I guess it will be alight if the film makers can identify why Masters of the Universe is good, at it's core. The central premise is pretty cool, i.e. a magic castle that is the source of incredible power, and different factions battling to poses it. You could make a movie around that with any kind of tone you choose. The characters are really arch and weird looking, but you could heighten or soften aspects of their design, or personalities to fit a serious, or campy tone.

Candy Kappa
01-25-2016, 03:27 AM
I don't think all-serious or all-camp is the best option.

It is a post apocalyptic future set on a distant planet where society have reverted to a time of sword & sorcery, where hunky tanned beefcakes in scantly clad armor fight each other.

It should be equal parts camp and equal parts serious, just like any iteration of He-Man have been.

You have scenes like. A bunch of beefcakes fight for the crown to rule the land, and suddenly the blue skinned beefcake gets acid in his face and to stay alive his space-wizard mentor merges him with a demon so the blue beefcake can be reborn as Skeletor Overlord of Evil.

ProactiveMan
01-25-2016, 03:32 AM
If the word 'beefcake' is actually written in the stage directions, then we have nothing to worry about.

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 04:04 AM
The brilliance of He-Man, is in the character design itself. People love to "improve" on designs, or offer a modern version; the fallacy is to continue to think that our generation are somehow better artists, than those who came before us, simply on the basis that we exist in their future.

Put 30 people in a room, and ask them all to recreate an iconic design, exactly, you won't get one the same; you will however get a gradation of quality of translation and interpretation, even when not requested.
Personally, He-Man is, to my mind, the Filmation design. That might be a narrow view, but I'd argue He's as iconic as Vader or Yoda.
He-Man is a beautiful man, Sorceress is a beautiful woman. Teela has a very specific look.

If you do these things, in the way that worked before, it will absolutely work again, as long as your translation is executed well.

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 04:23 AM
So, this is also pretty awesome.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UOLesGmH0Ys/Vp67Tq_Kl_I/AAAAAAAAE_g/llFuvPNyN9o/s1600/m01.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h5xGGEXyWOM/Vp67T6rhJiI/AAAAAAAAE_c/Uf8t8PmTEPg/s1600/m03.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-USqicz57BgU/Vp67Uf9966I/AAAAAAAAE_k/DxlHMiXyMXE/s1600/m04.jpg

http://ddgcolecciones.blogspot.ca/2013/07/hordak-tamano-10-veces-mas-grande.html

Candy Kappa
01-25-2016, 04:30 AM
Wow, that's pretty cool.

plastroncafe
01-25-2016, 12:06 PM
I guess what I'm saying, or at least what I'm trying to say, is the design group from Jupiter ascending did what they were supposed to, and did it well....in terms of what was asked of them.

It all comes down to what will be asked of them, and given McG's reputation, what he'll be asking for is camp and cheese/beefcake.

Now this might be okay for the fan who watched the show with that particular pair of glasses on, (That's how I watched it, to be honest. Couldn't NOT watch it, being a queer kid at the time) but I can certainly see where it'd leave others displeased.

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 05:59 PM
I guess what I'm saying, or at least what I'm trying to say, is the design group from Jupiter ascending did what they were supposed to, and did it well....in terms of what was asked of them.

I can see what you mean, but, to my eye, Tatum was ridiculous looking. I really don't thing they wanted him to look like a fool, but he certainly did. None of the creatures made any sense.

I guess, for me, and to not put too fine a point on it, it feels quite a bit like a weird kind of racism.

Now before you go off all crazy...here's what I mean: When a stereotype is applied to a specific ethnic group, physically, they exaggerate features, which, is an affront, often because these "stereotyped exaggerations" are ill-informed generalizations, and sometimes, don't even remotely line up with reality.

Design, is a language like any other. It tells us things, it communicates very important ideas. It's an affront, artistically to see artists, in a world full of struggling, starving srtists, to be paid big dollars to deliver F grade quality, REPEATEDLY.
It boils the blood.

When you borrow from animals , especially to design genetically modified humans, you should, have a sense of how the animal in question is structured, otherwise, your design begins to look, well, like a guy in a mask, or a guy in bad makeup. It takes years to master design, and so it should be left to those who've spent years, not handed off to students. These guys are the Liefilds of design. I hate them. I'll admit it. i hate their "style"

Take a design like Admiral Ackbar.

http://parksandresorts.wdpromedia.com/media/disneyparks/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/abc696543SMALL.jpg
This is strong design, as it is reminiscent of a goldfish/aquatic creature, while still plausible, interms of anatomical structure, on top of which has a flow to the design that feels natural and elegant. In short, you buy that as a creature.

This, though, what is this?

http://i.imgur.com/lq2ylHI.jpg

6year olds have better sense. nothing could ever exist with this anatomical structure. EVER.


http://www.daranaraghi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/141826.jpg

Or this:
http://i2.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/gugu-jupiter.jpg?resize=700%2C338


And I can't find a clear shot, but seriously?
http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/nesh-jupiter.jpg?resize=700%2C337

No, I don't want these hacks to touch He-Man...ever.

plastroncafe
01-25-2016, 07:56 PM
Before I go off all crazy?
Seriously, dude?

I'm looking over the rims of my bifocals so hard at you right now.
I can see not liking the designs, which again...were OK'd by the head of production, so...honestly I lay the blame there. Heavy is the head blady blah blah.

Still not seeing where your call of racism fits into what appears to me to be a subjective disagreement over taste.

Though, if anatomical realism is the yardstick by which we decide what constitutes good design, I can't help but chuckle when I look at the property in question. Or really any fantasy property, or comic book cover. (I'm thinking specifically of the fantasy women so thin and yet so large of chest that they'd likely suffer constant back and shoulder pain)

I dunno...I liked the elephant guy, and I say that as someone who worked in a zoo and has more than a couple of Gross Anatomy courses under her belt.

snake
01-25-2016, 08:08 PM
I'm with Plastron on this. Those designs aren't bad at all. I dunno, I'm not going to sh*t on the movie before I see the first trailer or some info.

shuriken
01-25-2016, 08:41 PM
This, though, what is this?

http://i.imgur.com/lq2ylHI.jpg

6year olds have better sense. nothing could ever exist with this anatomical structure. EVER.


http://www.daranaraghi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/141826.jpg

Or this:
http://i2.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/gugu-jupiter.jpg?resize=700%2C338


And I can't find a clear shot, but seriously?
http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/nesh-jupiter.jpg?resize=700%2C337

No, I don't want these hacks to touch He-Man...ever.

Wow, those creatures are trippy looking. Stupid and impractical yes, but trippy and kinda interesting hell yeah. Anyway this makes me wanna watch Jupiter Ascending even more.

And can we agree it won't be as bad as Battlefield Earth? UGH

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 08:54 PM
Wow, those creatures are trippy looking. Stupid and impractical yes, but trippy and kinda interesting hell yeah. Anyway this makes me wanna watch Jupiter Ascending even more.

And can we agree it won't be as bad as Battlefield Earth? UGH

Like I said, if you squint really hard, you might find some value, but the ideas are so juvenile, it's hard to find any real take-aways worth your time.
You want us to concede that this may not be the worst movie of all time? I'd rather not dwell on the best worst-case scenarios.

@ Plastron - yes, I know it's a poor analogy, because racism carries more baggage than Charlie Sheen, but it was the best way i could describe it...something so egregiously wrong (from an educated, artistic stance), and yet overlooked by the John Q Public.
No, I'm in no way suggesting in any way that the reality of real world racism parallels the design sensibilities of these hacks, only that their view of design is as myopic and ignorant. I'm also not suggesting the problem is on par with racism, but rather that it shares a lot of it's qualities, though in an infinitely less important way. It's the thing that's overlooked, But I'm passionate about, for a hole host of reasons.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-25-2016, 08:58 PM
I'm with C42 on this one; that four-breasted twin-vag'ed Species 8472 monstrosity is just the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

Apparently horny 14yo's get to create official concept art now. What a beautiful world.

Commenter 42
01-25-2016, 09:08 PM
My quam, is that, it's just not possible. It breaks the laws of physics, it couldn't exist. The spine wouldn't work that way, the internal organs make NO SENSE AT ALL. Her Throat meets her rectum? Two human rib cages? All of this and the creature has survived long past birth?

Why? because they haven't bothered to understand physiology or anatomy. They simply took a pre existing character mesh (lest you think these guys are mastr painters, it's not the case at all. :P) and did a bit of cut and paste, slapped a bra and stripes on it and called it "art".

Fvck that.

Millennials man... Maybe this summer I should compete in the 100m. If I'm the slowest do I win gold anyway? I think I should also be president, because I waaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaa.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-25-2016, 09:08 PM
You forgot to add the S&M fetish in there, Cy. Clearly these 14 yr-olds are projecting some serious kinks.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-25-2016, 09:22 PM
You forgot to add the S&M fetish in there, Cy. Clearly these 14 yr-olds are projecting some serious kinks.

They've been Google imaging without the filter on again... :trazz:

MsMarvelDuckie
01-25-2016, 09:27 PM
Or sneaking to watch their mom's copy of Fifty Shades of Grey....

Candy Kappa
01-26-2016, 05:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/lq2ylHI.jpg


I haven't seen Jupiter Ascension, just the Nostalgia Critic review, which was enough for me. But I have no relations to that design or where it fits into the movie.

That said, it's not a bad design as either as a demonic entity, or some kind of freak mutant experiment. Sure, if the design represents an actual species or creatures that are born like that it's a bit jarring and problematic. Maybe if it was depicted standing on it's human legs and was a four armed creature it would have looked better, but if the idea is that it's supposed to move like a quadruped, having it stands it's hind legs using its knees are bad design. Knees are not meant to walk on and would be impractical.

So as a humanoid looking quadruped species, it should had hind legs looking like arms like the front legs, almost looking like a Centaur from the Fallout universe.

It's all about making unrealistic designs work, like actual Centaurs from standard Greek and Fantasy depictions. You have to make them look plausible to not break immersion, since a Centaur can't exists. It's too top heavy to be able to run without falling over, but making the designs solid enough and people will forget that, some of the better Centaur designs have a bigger horse body compared to the human half, making it look less top heavy.

MOTU is chalk full with crazy creature designs which doesn't necessarily comes from a natural origin, such as Modulok who turned himself into what he is in most iterations.

http://www.he-man.org/assets/images/home_news/attachment-40_full.jpg

Commenter 42
01-26-2016, 05:25 AM
The design is meant to represent a human animal hybrid/enhanced human.
Walking on ones knees, with a torso attached to your neck, for a multitude of reasons, isn't sound design logic, no matter how you slice it.
Jupiter ascending has no demonic creatures, it's all Sci-fi, set in our universe.

And, c'mon, that's a really lazy kitbash.

Long story short, keep these hacks away from He-Man.

ProactiveMan
01-27-2016, 01:01 AM
Well, on the bright side, I can't think of too many other properties that come with such an extensive and well considered design history. The character concept job is done already - all they have to do is translate it to suit the tone they're going for.

On anatomy: there comes a time when it is appropriate to work around physical reality. If the concept is strong enough, and the silhouette is visually pleasing, the design can still work. Like Goro form Mortal Kombat - Anatomically speaking, you can't have four arms and only two pecks, but Goro still works.

Commenter 42
01-27-2016, 02:46 AM
Goro' body is badly designed.

ProactiveMan
01-27-2016, 04:04 AM
Depends on what Goro was designed to do. Really exist in the real world?... Sure; his second arms would flop limply by his side. Be memorable and imposing in a fantasy video game mythos, I give him an A.

You can't really design any kind of fantasy creature without employing bull sh*t. It's just a matter of what style of bull sh*t you employ. Pick anything in the realm of crustacean men, green talking tigers, and skull-faced bodybuilders and you can point out anatomical flaws.

Commenter 42
01-27-2016, 06:47 AM
Depends on what Goro was designed to do. Really exist in the real world?... Sure; his second arms would flop limply by his side. Be memorable and imposing in a fantasy video game mythos, I give him an A.

You can't really design any kind of fantasy creature without employing bull sh*t. It's just a matter of what style of bull sh*t you employ. Pick anything in the realm of crustacean men, green talking tigers, and skull-faced bodybuilders and you can point out anatomical flaws.

This is true.

I give you one spinning He-Man as a prize:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/2a25/f/2014/067/8/2/he_man_turnaround_by_bwwd-d79d1mt.gif

turtle1237
01-27-2016, 10:16 AM
This is true.

I give you one spinning He-Man as a prize:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/2a25/f/2014/067/8/2/he_man_turnaround_by_bwwd-d79d1mt.gif

I want a jumping Teela from the rear view over a spinning He-man.

That would be a better prize lol.

Commenter 42
01-27-2016, 03:32 PM
How about an awesome, wallet emptying video instead?


I don't like many things, but this statue, is just, perfection. If The movie brings the designs to life, THIS way, ...Like, this is how you do it folks...THIS

OE8HVKTKfto

The He-Man companion piece isn't half as good, but this guy, is outstanding.

Who am I kidding, i have 0 hope for McG-Man.

AT-Man
01-27-2016, 04:55 PM
How about an awesome, wallet emptying video instead?


I don't like many things, but this statue, is just, perfection. If The movie brings the designs to life, THIS way, ...Like, this is how you do it folks...THIS

OE8HVKTKfto

The He-Man companion piece isn't half as good, but this guy, is outstanding.

Who am I kidding, i have 0 hope for McG-Man.

Those are incredible. Looks like there's Hordak's face on Skeletor's belt.

Commenter 42
01-27-2016, 06:14 PM
Those are incredible. Looks like there's Hordak's face on Skeletor's belt.

I can't get over how perfect it is. I now have to convince myself not to buy it...somehow.

I kind of preferred it with the plum colored skin...but man...It's just so damned good...

The Filmation statues are great as well:
http://i1.wp.com/itakon.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/b57-32.jpg?fit=650%2C800


But this is what I mean about great execution:

http://geekinbox.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sideshow-SDCC-2015-Masters-of-The-Universe-Premium-Format-Figure-Skeletor-01.jpg

VS what really only amounts to fan art:

http://www.icollectactionfigures.com/appraise/SoldImages/120026195258.jpg

^^^I get that this is based on the new comics from 2000, but I really hated the direction they went. A skull, on its own is menacing enough; no need for the huge canine teeth and glowing red eyes.

Or these:
http://orig13.deviantart.net/68ac/f/2013/038/b/d/skeletor_5_by_edgepang-d5u4nwk.jpg
http://media.popcultcha.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/k/skeletor_bust_1.png
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/902325-product-silo.png

Versions of, sure, and not taking away from the artist, But good art isn't enough; it should be great.

ProactiveMan
01-28-2016, 02:19 AM
I love those statues. I can't be buying stuff like that though, but if I had more money and a bigger house...

I have a handful of the 2002 mini statues, which were a pretty awesome idea I thought. Not too expensive, but really nicely put together.

plastroncafe
01-28-2016, 11:40 AM
Sure they look cool, but it's not like Skeletor's design has any logic from an anatomical standpoint.

Candy Kappa
01-28-2016, 12:07 PM
That's true. Skeletor isn't logical, but he is magical. And played right, magic in high-fantasy/sword & sorcery have a lot more leeway then pseudoscience in sci-fi.

He's basically a Lich, a undead sorcerer med a skeleton for a head.

Commenter 42
01-28-2016, 01:37 PM
That's true. Skeletor isn't logical, but he is magical. And played right, magic in high-fantasy/sword & sorcery have a lot more leeway then pseudoscience in sci-fi.

He's basically a Lich, a undead sorcerer med a skeleton for a head.

^This^.

Anyway, points to the sculptor for knocking it right out of the park. I sincerely hope they do more.

AT-Man
01-28-2016, 05:47 PM
I think the 200X is the definitive MOTU. True, Skeletor's fangs are a bit much, but I like his glowing eyes when he gets angry. And I remember him being depicted with red eyes in the original minicomics as well sometimes, so it's not just in the 200X.

Commenter 42
01-28-2016, 06:05 PM
I think the 200X is the definitive MOTU. True, Skeletor's fangs are a bit much, but I like his glowing eyes when he gets angry. And I remember him being depicted with red eyes in the original minicomics as well sometimes, so it's not just in the 200X.

Nope. Definitive Skeletor is the Filmation Skeletor. 200x is a reimagined imposter. :lol:

Opinions, we all got 'em.

To be fair, it's like anything else - nostalgia plays a heavy role.
I hated the Movie version, Frank Langella looked like he was wearing white prosciutto on his face...but that's me. :lol:

Leo...Back me up here!

ProactiveMan
01-28-2016, 06:39 PM
I like how Skeletor's skull sits on an invisible neck in the cartoons. It would've be interesting to see how they may have attempted to do that in the 80s. Probably some sort of process shot that Cannon would **** up in some way.

Commenter 42
01-28-2016, 06:54 PM
I like how Skeletor's skull sits on an invisible neck in the cartoons. It would've be interesting to see how they may have attempted to do that in the 80s. Probably some sort of process shot that Cannon would **** up in some way.

They could have just lit the skull from above, and rod-puppet the head and jaw, kept the rest shadowed in the hood.

would have been even more freaky...

For real tho...would'a def ****ed it up.

AT-Man
01-29-2016, 09:31 AM
Nope. Definitive Skeletor is the Filmation Skeletor. 200x is a reimagined imposter. :lol:

Opinions, we all got 'em.

To be fair, it's like anything else - nostalgia plays a heavy role.
I hated the Movie version, Frank Langella looked like he was wearing white prosciutto on his face...but that's me. :lol:

Leo...Back me up here!

Yeah, what I meant to say was, that I think 200X is the best MOTU canon and if I'd make my own MOTU story, I would take the 200X one and add elements from Filmation and other media if they fit. I also like Filmation Skeletor the best, but I don't think the 200X version is worse overall. I even find the movie Skeletor good, but his face should have been more skull-like.

When I hear the word "Skeletor" I immediately think of the Filmation one. But I noticed while reading his lines in the new minicomic collection, I used the 200X voice in my head. I still think Oppenheimer's voice was the definitive one.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-29-2016, 12:55 PM
All this talk of He-Man made me want to watch the old movie again last night. Forgot how cheesy it was! Langella's lines were so overdone but it's a fun cheesefest of a movie!

plastroncafe
01-29-2016, 01:10 PM
I remember really loving that movie, but it's been years since I've seen it. I'm kind of afraid it's been visited by the Suck Fairy in the meantime.

Maybe the memories of the Great Cosmic Key should stay memories.

Candy Kappa
01-29-2016, 02:04 PM
I wasn't a fan when I first saw the 87 movie, but it's grown on me.

SO, who is beefcake-y enough to play the Man of He? Would it be too on the nose having Jason Momoa be He-Man when he already been Conan? :P

plastroncafe
01-29-2016, 02:45 PM
My first thoughts are Chris Helmsworth and the guy they got to play the Mountain on Game of Thrones.

Candy Kappa
01-29-2016, 02:52 PM
Chris Hemsworth is a good pick.

Mark Stevens with a Mustache: Man-At-Arms!

TigerClaw
01-29-2016, 02:57 PM
Chris Hemsworth is a good pick.
I can see him as He-Man, I wonder who should play Man-At-Arms and Skeletor?

Candy Kappa
01-29-2016, 03:03 PM
There's a lot of characters to pick from, so the entire cast of Magic Mike can get a role :lol:

TigerClaw
01-29-2016, 03:05 PM
Cringer/Battle Cat would have to be in it, But I wonder if he would talk, and if he does, who should do the voice?

plastroncafe
01-29-2016, 03:10 PM
There's a lot of characters to pick from, so the entire cast of Magic Mike can get a role :lol:

This would not be helping that whole supertext issue we had a page or so ago...

TigerClaw
01-29-2016, 03:14 PM
I would also love to see Kittrina appear in the movie, she has a thing for Battle Cat.
http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Kittrina

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/heman/images/5/54/Kittrina.jpg

Candy Kappa
01-29-2016, 03:29 PM
This would not be helping that whole supertext issue we had a page or so ago...

we can masque it with some cheesecake actress cast as Sorceress/Goddess, Teela and Evil-Lyn.

Angelina Jolie as Evil-Lyn... Maleficent without the horns?

Commenter 42
01-29-2016, 05:20 PM
we can masque it with some cheesecake actress cast as Sorceress/Goddess, Teela and Evil-Lyn.

Angelina Jolie as Evil-Lyn... Maleficent without the horns?

I'm, personally all Jolied out. New faces, not just for Evil-Lyn, but across the board.

No, Moma isn't He-Man, andy more than he's Aquaman. He was a good fit for Casey Jones, or Lobo, could have been Ares, There are many others I'm sure.

You need a golden god to play He-Man. Hemsworth is a god, but is he He-Man?

Again, In my head I'm thinking this:
http://brostrick-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/heman.jpg
Not this
http://www.dubbednetwork.net/static/he-man2002.jpg

Hemsworth would work for that version, sure. On the flip side, he's also, kind of skinny when he's not doing Thor, and apparently hates the training and diet he's on while filming.

I don't know if I'd buy anyone with a name.

Apparently Kellan Lutz wanted the role, but that would decidedly suck.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-29-2016, 05:37 PM
Hemsworth and Jolie? I'd see it. Throw in Tom Selleck as Man-at-Arms and you have something. (Be still looks pretty good but might need to lose some weight.)

Commenter 42
01-29-2016, 05:54 PM
Hemsworth and Jolie? I'd see it. Throw in Tom Selleck as Man-at-Arms and you have something. (Be still looks pretty good but might need to lose some weight.)

Lol!!!

Selleck would have been great, 25 ...years go.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_97kd1o9mdm4/Rr_nuWXsa1I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/Ipfs2TgGR3A/s320/moustaches.jpg

MsMarvelDuckie
01-29-2016, 08:40 PM
But now he's actually old enough to play Teela's dad realistically, but is still active enough to be a veteran warrior. Blue Bloods, man. He's still got it!

Commenter 42
01-29-2016, 08:57 PM
But now he's actually old enough to play Teela's dad realistically, but is still active enough to be a veteran warrior. Blue Bloods, man. He's still got it!

Jesus Duckie, he's 71.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-29-2016, 10:02 PM
Your point? Harrison Ford is in his 70's too. Still pretty spry for a couple of tough old birds.

Commenter 42
01-30-2016, 02:35 AM
Look, I love the guy - he's been my avatar, and a source of fapping for millions of women and some men, for decades.

He's no spring chicken is all.
20 years ago, He would've been the perfect guy, and at that point he was in fact " actually old enough to play Teela's dad realistically".

20 years ago, at the age of 51.

DarkFell
01-30-2016, 01:05 PM
The Filmation statues are great as well:
http://i1.wp.com/itakon.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/b57-32.jpg?fit=650%2C800
I can practically hear Alan Oppenheimer's voice just by looking at the picture. That sculpture is just b*tchin'.

Also enjoyed seeing that image that featured the versions of the action figures made at a larger scale.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-30-2016, 04:37 PM
Look, I love the guy - he's been my avatar, and a source of fapping for millions of women and some men, for decades.

He's no spring chicken is all.
20 years ago, He would've been the perfect guy, and at that point he was in fact " actually old enough to play Teela's dad realistically".

20 years ago, at the age of 51.


True enough, but he has aged VERY well, and still looks like a man in his fifties. Certainly not like most 70+ year-old men. I'm just sayin' he could do it.

I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with another good candidate, and I just can't think of anyone who "fits". Would be really cool though if Dolph does a cameo like was intended years ago in the sequel that got axed before it could be made.

Candy Kappa
01-30-2016, 05:01 PM
Dolph should play either King Grayskull (using a modified version of his He-Man outfit) or King Randor, that would have been great.

Mark "Conan" Stevens who's one of the guys played The Mountain in GoT would do a good Man-At-Arms.
https://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE4OTM2MzE4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTA1NDE2MjE%25 40._V1_UX214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1947403/&h=317&w=214&tbnid=UGIvgRmss63U4M:&docid=7jWUectCYGrQZM&hl=en-no&ei=qECtVvafLsuRzAOFw7uoCg&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0ahUKEwj2k_z-0dLKAhXLCHMKHYXhDqUQMwgiKAAwAA

Commenter 42
01-30-2016, 10:11 PM
Dolph should play bystander #5.

Worst thing to happen to He-Man, next to He-Ro.

ProactiveMan
01-31-2016, 06:50 PM
Get the dude who doubled Arnold in Terminator Genisys. That guy is build like a brick sh*thouse... assuming he can act.

NinjaPug
04-26-2017, 07:43 PM
Sony set a release date for this. Is McG still directing? I hope not.

@ERCboxoffice: By the power of Grayskull! Sony's MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE stakes out December 18, 2019. He-Man!

ProactiveMan
04-26-2017, 08:01 PM
I can't find anything trustworthy either way. Release date or not, this movie is still in the 'I'll believe it when I see it' category.

mrmaczaps
04-26-2017, 08:43 PM
He-Man and the Masters of Developmental Hell. Haha

The Deadman
04-26-2017, 09:13 PM
Sony set a release date for this. Is McG still directing? I hope not.

@ERCboxoffice: By the power of Grayskull! Sony's MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE stakes out December 18, 2019. He-Man!

Yes

McG, who is directing the Masters of the Universe movie, recently spoke with CS about his plans for the fantastic world of He-Man.

“I think we want to honor the fan base, first and foremost,” he said. “We also need to be cognizant of the incredible resonance of what Kevin Feige is doing with Marvel, and the balance of full-bodied entertainment. That it’s both credible and emotional, action-packed, and the story of a hero’s journey. It’s the genesis of He-Man, it’s the becoming of He-Man. We want it to be clicking on all cylinders in that regard. We’re not going to stop until we get it right.”

Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/842157-masters-of-the-universe-movie#VhApgTbG2tswsimv.99

mrmaczaps
04-26-2017, 09:57 PM
Yes

McG, who is directing the Masters of the Universe movie, recently spoke with CS about his plans for the fantastic world of He-Man.

“I think we want to honor the fan base, first and foremost,” he said. “We also need to be cognizant of the incredible resonance of what Kevin Feige is doing with Marvel, and the balance of full-bodied entertainment. That it’s both credible and emotional, action-packed, and the story of a hero’s journey. It’s the genesis of He-Man, it’s the becoming of He-Man. We want it to be clicking on all cylinders in that regard. We’re not going to stop until we get it right.”

Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/842157-masters-of-the-universe-movie#VhApgTbG2tswsimv.99

Oh yay. Another origin film... sigh. Really? Can't we just get a great flick with the opening credits type origin... open on space, a rocket ship with usa on it... an alien world... crash... roll credits with a montage of prince adams mkm getting out of the crashed ship, meeting then Prince Randor... fall in love, twins... maybe a young adam finding cringer... orko... and end opening credits... He-man isn't that hard... start the film... Skeletor is mucking about, our heroes are defending Greyskull... He-man transforms back into Prince Adam and theres a nugget about the sword of power... very briefly... then onto the brand new story with maybe Hordak... Skeletor gets mentioned... shows up but doesn't stick around... Blonde girl... some odd attraction... the Sorceress says basically oh sh!t thats your sister... 2nd movie starts with the sister... opening credits short-hand starts with twins, kidnapping, mindwipe for everyone... the horde... credits end with the first films high point of seeing/learning about adams twin... and then go......

No real, drawn out 2 hour origins... Get some meat on them bones.

Autbot_Benz
04-26-2017, 11:58 PM
MCg is not directing He-Man anymore

http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/26/sony-release-date-masters-of-the-universe-reboot/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

David S Goyer is writing it though "shudders"

ProactiveMan
04-27-2017, 12:56 AM
David S Goyer is writing it though "shudders"

http://i.imgur.com/BMp3cG4.gif

Goddammit?! "How many people in the audience have heard of Man-At-Arms?"...

"So it’s like if I’m going to be this geek who becomes He-Man then let’s create a giant green tiger that only He-Man could #$%@"

ZariusTwo
04-27-2017, 06:11 AM
He-Mope and the Bastards of the Universe:(

NinjaPug
04-27-2017, 08:00 AM
MCg is not directing He-Man anymore

http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/26/sony-release-date-masters-of-the-universe-reboot/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

David S Goyer is writing it though "shudders"

I'd rather have McG involved instead of Goyer. I can't believe they tossed Chris Yost's script for Goyer.

ProactiveMan
04-27-2017, 06:50 PM
I'd rather have McG involved instead of Goyer. I can't believe they tossed Chris Yost's script for Goyer.

He must have dirt on Kevin Tsujihara or something.

Vegita-San
04-27-2017, 07:13 PM
Yes

McG, who is directing the Masters of the Universe movie, recently spoke with CS about his plans for the fantastic world of He-Man.

“I think we want to honor the fan base, first and foremost,” he said. “We also need to be cognizant of the incredible resonance of what Kevin Feige is doing with Marvel, and the balance of full-bodied entertainment. That it’s both credible and emotional, action-packed, and the story of a hero’s journey. It’s the genesis of He-Man, it’s the becoming of He-Man. We want it to be clicking on all cylinders in that regard. We’re not going to stop until we get it right.”

Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/842157-masters-of-the-universe-movie#VhApgTbG2tswsimv.99

oh god, someone please make it stop. another thing bastardized by sony.

AT-Man
04-27-2017, 07:47 PM
If they're gonna take notes from current superhero movies, better Marvel than DC.

ProphetofGanja
04-27-2017, 08:02 PM
If they're gonna take notes from current superhero movies, better Marvel than DC.

Preach, brother.

Also hopefully they'll give He-Man a better hairdo

AT-Man
04-27-2017, 08:31 PM
Preach, brother.

Also hopefully they'll give He-Man a better hairdo

This IS the better hairdo.

http://www.popjoust.com/images/jousters/heman.png

TigerClaw
04-27-2017, 09:07 PM
This IS the better hairdo.

http://www.popjoust.com/images/jousters/heman.png
Who should play He-Man? cause whoever they pick, has to rock that Mullet.

Cure
04-27-2017, 10:03 PM
It's not a mullet; it's more like a bob cut.

AT-Man
04-27-2017, 10:04 PM
Who should play He-Man? cause whoever they pick, has to rock that Mullet.

I have absolutely no idea. I feel like no one is good enough for that role.

ProactiveMan
04-28-2017, 03:49 AM
Who should play He-Man? cause whoever they pick, has to rock that Mullet.

It's not a mullet; it's more like a bob cut.

Yeah, that's a 'pageboy' haircut. It looks cool in a cartoon [citation needed], but unless you're a precocious ten-year-old in a 90s sitcom, not so much in real life.

Still, any attempt to make He-Man's hair look less dorky has resulted in something equally uncool.

Vegita-San
04-28-2017, 06:03 AM
If they're gonna take notes from current superhero movies, better Marvel than DC.

what works for marvel might not work for he-man.

they are just trying to copy the newest, latest trends which does not bode well.

what next, have justin beiber create a theme song for the movie too?


just go away sony. please stop ruining stuff :)

AT-Man
04-28-2017, 10:21 AM
what works for marvel might not work for he-man.

From those two options Marvel is the more colorful and upbeat, which is how MOTU should be like. Asgard in the movies looks like a good mix of fantasy and technology, so it would be possible to make Eternia look like that, too. As long as they don't straight out make a copy of Asgard.

Vegita-San
04-28-2017, 10:36 AM
i'm not arguing that i'd rather have them looking to marvel for inspiration.

but this is sony.

i don't trust them to get ANYTHING right ;o). no matter who they get to direct

ProphetofGanja
04-28-2017, 11:13 AM
Yeah, that's a 'pageboy' haircut. It looks cool in a cartoon [citation needed], but unless you're a precocious ten-year-old in a 90s sitcom, not so much in real life.

Still, any attempt to make He-Man's hair look less dorky has resulted in something equally uncool.

I feel like they have three main options:


Go with a totally different hairstyle, not remotely like the pageboy, and probably piss off some hardcore fans in the process. If he ends up not looking goofy though, it will probably be alright


Go with a long hairstyle, reminiscent of the pageboy but still not quite like it. That way He-Man has hair length, but they would have to be careful to not make it look like they were just copying Thor or Conan or something like that


Go with the exact pageboy haircut, but acknowledge that its a pretty wack hairstyle, by having other characters continuously commenting on He-Man's odd fashion choice. They could really do that with his whole outfit

Andrew NDB
04-28-2017, 11:21 AM
Go with the exact pageboy haircut, but acknowledge that its a pretty wack hairstyle, by having other characters continuously commenting on He-Man's odd fashion choice. They could really do that with his whole outfit
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Probably they'd do this. With a 21 Jump Street (movie)/CHIPS (movie)/Baywatch (movie) sort of vibe. Make it loud, ridiculous, brutal, and hopefully hilarious. Something like the first Thor movie, but playing things even funnier and way more brutal.

Seems the soundest route. Nobody would see just an earnest adaptation of the He-Man cartoon.

Candy Kappa
04-28-2017, 11:23 AM
He don't need the silly Filmation hair style, hopefully they don't make a completely Filmation styled movie :lol:

ProphetofGanja
04-28-2017, 11:24 AM
Probably they'd do this. With a 21 Jump Street (movie)/CHIPS (movie)/Baywatch (movie) sort of vibe. Make it ridiculous, brutal, and hopefully hilarious. Something like the first Thor movie, but playing things even funnier, but way more brutal.

Seems the soundest route. Nobody would see just an earnest adaptation of He-Man.

Yeah, I feel like that's probably their best option. They need a balance of humor and action in a property like this. The new Jump Street movies were actually really, really enjoyable, although I'm not familiar with the original show.

Happy 10,000th post, by the way

Andrew NDB
04-28-2017, 11:30 AM
Yeah, I feel like that's probably their best option. They need a balance of humor and action in a property like this. The new Jump Street movies were actually really, really enjoyable, although I'm not familiar with the original show.

The Jump Street movies were HYSTERICAL. Too bad that MiB23 didn't get off the ground.

Happy 10,000th post, by the way

*blinks* Damn.

ProactiveMan
04-29-2017, 12:01 AM
As long as they avoid the 'Blanch from the Golden Girls' cut he had in the 200X cartoon. The New Adventures look was supposed to look like Dolf's glam mullet from the Movie, but it ended up more like A BeeGee.

Stephen
05-03-2017, 03:53 PM
Who should play He-Man? cause whoever they pick, has to rock that Mullet.

CGI He-Man :)

ProactiveMan
05-03-2017, 09:22 PM
CGI He-Man :)

I wouldn't mind that honestly.

The Deadman
12-01-2017, 08:46 AM
David S. Goyer Has the Power to Direct He-Man Film ‘Masters of the Universe’ for Sony (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3472499/david-s-goyer-power-direct-man-film-masters-universe-sony/)

Vegita-San
12-01-2017, 08:49 AM
ill believe it when i see it.

wish it was someone other than sony.

TigerClaw
02-08-2018, 08:26 PM
David S. Goyer Has the Power to Direct He-Man Film ‘Masters of the Universe’ for Sony (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3472499/david-s-goyer-power-direct-man-film-masters-universe-sony/)
David S. Goyer departs as the director. He's still involved as an executive producer and screenwriter.
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/masters-of-the-universe-he-man-david-goyer-wont-direct-1202692790/

sdp
02-08-2018, 08:38 PM
I never really got to watch He-man as a kid only caught a few re-runs I do remember watching more She-Ra reruns even though I also didn't like it but I guess it was more recent. I had a He-Man/Skeletor figure from The New Adventures of He-Man revival of the 90s and I always wondered why he didn't look like the He-Man from the cartoon :lol: I mostly played with He-Man being Saint Seiya and Skeletor with the Skeleton Warriors cartoon/figures.

I recently watched the "Toys that made us" episode of He-man and it's rather interesting, and I'm surprised by how much mythology the franchise has. I'm still not interested, not my thing, I remember renting on redbox a "best 10 episodes of He-man" DVD about ten years ago and even the 10 best were really boring 80s style episodes. Cool for people that like it. Just wanted to randomly share my He-Man story after watching that He-Man documentary and saw this thread. I do feel for a movie it'ss going to be hard to get a movie or show going though, even the Netflix she-ra one, it's just a franchise that is hard to update even though it does have a fleshed out universe.

Sumac
02-08-2018, 10:23 PM
Goyer? Ugh...
On the other hand, if they find a good director there is a chance, but I am not really sure if they can adapt such creation of 80-s like He-Man to the modern era.
People won't accept such cheese this days.

ProactiveMan
02-09-2018, 02:50 AM
David S. Goyer departs as the director. He's still involved as an executive producer and screenwriter.
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/masters-of-the-universe-he-man-david-goyer-wont-direct-1202692790/

One of those three things makes me happy.

Candy Kappa
02-09-2018, 04:56 AM
I recently watched the "Toys that made us" episode of He-man and it's rather interesting, and I'm surprised by how much mythology the franchise has. I'm still not interested, not my thing, I remember renting on redbox a "best 10 episodes of He-man" DVD about ten years ago and even the 10 best were really boring 80s style episodes. Cool for people that like it. Just wanted to randomly share my He-Man story after watching that He-Man documentary and saw this thread. I do feel for a movie it'ss going to be hard to get a movie or show going though, even the Netflix she-ra one, it's just a franchise that is hard to update even though it does have a fleshed out universe.

Have you seen the Barbie episode, it's such a great companion piece to get a look at Mattel. I just love that the MOTU guys was basically BSing their way through making the line a reality :lol:

drgon78
02-09-2018, 06:21 AM
I really wished they got the people that worked on Thor Ragnarok.

Candy Kappa
02-09-2018, 07:00 AM
yeah, the theme and mood in Raknarok would easily translate with He-Man.

The Deadman
04-20-2018, 03:27 PM
Directors Hired For Live-Action Masters of the Universe
https://411mania.com/movies/directors-hired-live-action-masters-universe/

ZariusTwo
01-11-2019, 03:25 PM
The He-Man movie script is now being written by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway (Iron Man, The Last Knight, Punisher: War Zone)

http://collider.com/he-man-movie-masters-of-the-universe-update-writers

newfan
01-11-2019, 03:56 PM
Oh good we might still get this, I was wondering if this had been dropped.

ZariusTwo
04-30-2019, 10:58 AM
We have a He-Man at last

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newfan
04-30-2019, 11:06 AM
I wonder how he feels about wearing an awful blonde wig :D

Seriously though, this is coming along slowly, I wasn't sure if the rights to it had run out, or were going to (sony) but maybe that was a different movie I read about. It was around time there was an announcement that Mattel would be making their own movies.

Leo656
04-30-2019, 04:06 PM
Hmm.

No opinion just yet.

I'd love a movie that plays the material straight, but that's not the fashion.

The fashion for toy movies is to completely take the piss out of the material, remind everyone how silly and stupid it is, and that they're a stupid boob for even liking it. I'm not interested in that.

For all the 1987 movie's flaws, at least it didn't feel like it was necessary to make fun of He-Man/MOTU.

We'll see how this turns out.

Galactus
04-30-2019, 05:06 PM
Just adapt the opening arc the 2002 animated series particularly the first two episodes. There's your story.

Design-wise look to the Masters of the Universe classics line which are basically the designs of the classic figures with a few touches of modernisation.

Leo656
04-30-2019, 05:14 PM
Just adapt the opening arc the 2002 animated series particularly the first two episodes. There's your story.

Design-wise look to the Masters of the Universe classics line which are basically the designs of the classic figures with a few touches of modernisation.

That would be great. The 2002 series was like everything that was great about the original series, minus the camp. It felt like such a natural modernization, and it proved that the concept doesn't have to be "silly" in order to have appeal.

I love the original show, but I also love the original mini-comics and audio cassettes/record albums, all of which were fairly dark and the very opposite of camp. THAT is what I want to see, more or less. The original cartoon was what most people remember, sure, but it was also the ONE and only time that the story and characters were treated in such a comedic fashion. It doesn't represent the franchise as a whole.

Doesn't have to be "dark" or "violent", just play the material straight, that's all I ask. If a person can't sell a concept like "Lord of the Rings Meets Star Wars" without making it silly, that person sucks at their job.

We'll see what shakes loose.

Barkworm
05-01-2019, 04:56 AM
That would be great. The 2002 series was like everything that was great about the original series, minus the camp. It felt like such a natural modernization, and it proved that the concept doesn't have to be "silly" in order to have appeal.

You think so? I liked some of the first season when it first came out but even back then, some of it seemed super silly because the overall tone was so half-assed: Clearly aimed at kids with extremely simple stories and episodes aggressively advertising new vehicles and stuff but at the same time trying to be dark only by reducing all comic relief to a minimum. The camp is always there nevertheless. You cannot have episodes dedicated to a mutant skunk called Stinkor and make it serious.

drgon78
05-01-2019, 05:47 AM
He at best looks like Prince Adam and that is being nice. I hope this movie doesn't end up being a train wreck.

ZariusTwo
10-09-2019, 03:31 PM
It appears Sony may have zero faith in the Masters of the Universe movie performing at the box office and could pass it off to Netflix

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/studio-dilemma-risk-a-box-office-flop-sell-netflix-1246354?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Andrew NDB
10-09-2019, 03:32 PM
It appears Sony may have zero faith in the Masters of the Universe movie performing at the box office

Honestly, can you blame them? I feel bad about whatever money they've already put into this thing.

newfan
10-10-2019, 12:48 AM
It's been going on for so long this wouldn't surprise me. I'd go see it at the theatre, unless it just looked awful.

NinjaPug
04-29-2021, 05:26 PM
Back to the drawing board to cast He-Man.....if this movie is even still in development.

https://collider.com/noah-centineo-exits-masters-of-the-universe-sony/

IMJ
04-29-2021, 07:30 PM
What if the Hollywood spin on He-Man is that they position it as an uplifting gay comedy and instead of the furry loincloth, they put He-Man and crew in Feathers?

I think that's entirely a possibility.

Also, with a race swap cast.

ZariusTwo
12-18-2021, 06:37 AM
The MOTU movie is slated to commence shooting in June 2022 in New Mexico according to the Production Weekly Newsletter

https://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/showthread.php?275827-Netflix-s-Masters-of-the-Universe-Film-Official-Discussion/page78

neatoman
12-18-2021, 12:54 PM
I find it funny how this was basically a dead franchise since 2004 and now we got two cartoons released simultaneously then suddenly this.

IMJ
12-18-2021, 01:49 PM
I find it funny how this was basically a dead franchise since 2004 and now we got two cartoons released simultaneously then suddenly this.

The Origins line upfront from all of this brought a lot of people back into the fold, I think.

Coola Yagami
12-18-2021, 01:57 PM
I'll wait til I actually seen a trailer. Like Ghostbusters Afterlife, both franchises have been working on or promising movies off and on for years, but in the end we finally got Afterlife. I'm not getting any hopes up til we see a trailer or at least one of those movie posters that say 'coming next Spring' or whatever.

IMJ
12-18-2021, 02:34 PM
I'll wait til I actually seen a trailer. Like Ghostbusters Afterlife, both franchises have been working on or promising movies off and on for years, but in the end we finally got Afterlife. I'm not getting any hopes up til we see a trailer or at least one of those movie posters that say 'coming next Spring' or whatever.

Oh absolutely. Given the state of affairs nowadays plus so many "nostalgia cash grabs" very little is a "must see" just on announcement anymore. It's began getting there up to 2017 and then The Last Jedi cemented it as nothing is "must see" even based on I.P. anymore.

TigerClaw
12-19-2021, 04:01 PM
I find it funny how this was basically a dead franchise since 2004 and now we got two cartoons released simultaneously then suddenly this.
a new He-Man movie has been in development for years, I believe different directors were attached at the time.

Leo656
12-30-2021, 03:07 AM
It's not gonna happen.

It's been "ready to start any day now" since like 2005, gone through dozens of scripts, studios, writers, directors... it's not gonna happen, ever. There's not a big enough audience to justify the budget it would take to even make the thing. Any MOTU movie even halfway decent would require a $200 million MINIMUM budget with all the elaborate special effects, and there is no chance on Earth anyone is going to spend that much to make it, and even less chance it even makes its budget back. Which is 100% of the reason they gave up even trying to make a "real" movie and decided to do some cheap-o Netflix trash project instead, they know there's no return on investment. Not enough people would watch a MOTU movie to even justify the expense in making one.

MOTU is my favorite property ever, but I'm not going to argue that it's "popular" in the conventional sense anymore. It's very popular with people my age who still have most of our old toys, but nobody outside of that bracket does, or ever will care. This movie has no audience. Nobody watched the CGI reboot cartoon OR the second half of "Revelation", so I doubt anyone will watch the movie either, except for the very hardest of hardcores. People just like the action figures, that's all. It's not a sustainable mass-media thing anymore, we're seeing that proven in real-time. Just like with all the numerous failed TMNT reboots. That brand isn't popular anymore, either, and their next movie is going to do sh*t business, too (although it will probably do better than this movie would).

So yeah, it won't happen. But IF it did, knowing what we know of Hollywood, you can expect it would be godawful and everyone would wish they didn't bother.

And if by some miracle it DIDN'T suck, you would still have the fanbase at each others' throats about it, just like with the "Revelation" cartoon, with one group saying it was "perfect, everything it needed to be" and the other group saying it was "the worst thing ever" for whatever reasons, and it would all just be another big debacle. And I am so, SO sick of that kinda sh*t by now, after a decade of DC movies and now "Revelation" with specific respect to this franchise. I am completely fed the f*ck up with bipolar fanbases and their inability to see any levels in-between Perfect and Trash. They take all the fun out of being a fan and do nothing but ensure that I do my best to keep my interests to myself.

It's like I said on the He-Man board, "I don't even know why any of you even think you WANT this movie to come out after what we all just went through with the cartoon, you're all just gonna yell and scream and cry about it no matter what, then call anyone who doesn't agree with you an idiot and a fake fan. We JUST went through all of that, why do you even WANT to go through it again? Are you sick?" And a few people did concede that yeah, I'm right, that's exactly what's gonna happen.

BUT. It's not gonna get made, so, y'know. All moot. But if it did... probably awful! But it won't, so we're safe. Once they crunch the numbers and realize there's zero ROI on a MOTU movie, especially on a streaming service, it goes right back in the desk drawer. "Zack Snyder's Justice League II and III" will come out before the He-Man movie does. You can go ahead and etch that in stone.

ZariusTwo
01-28-2022, 01:40 PM
MOTU movie set for Netflix, Kyle Allen cast as Adam/He-Man

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/masters-of-the-universe-movienetflix-kyle-allen-1235083394/

Zulithe
01-28-2022, 06:49 PM
MOTU movie set for Netflix, Kyle Allen cast as Adam/He-Man

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/masters-of-the-universe-movienetflix-kyle-allen-1235083394/

Actually sounds decently encouraging. Not sure about the directors, but the dude they cast as He-Man looks the part pretty well. And I'm sure he'll buff up some for it.

Leo656
01-29-2022, 12:10 PM
Going by descriptions on various websites it already sounds like a lost cause.

Adam... "An orphan who discovers he's a prince, destined to become savior of a faraway land..." Uh, yeah, none of that is how the story goes. He's not "an orphan" and his "turf" is literally his own backyard and everything beyond it.

Watch, instead of Marlena being his link to Earth Adam will be some Billy Batson type kid on Earth who gets whisked away to Eternia to play out his grand destiny, Never-Ending Story style. Except that isn't how the story goes.

I guess we'll see, but if they're willing to completely tinker with the origin like that then it shows a Platinum Dunes-style disregard for the source and we can probably expect a similar result.

I mean, I'm still not convinced this thing will ever even get made since there's no audience for it whatsoever and I think Netflix will realize that at some point when they actually crunch numbers. This type of movie would easily be the most expensive "made for Netflix" movie ever made and there's zero return on investment. But regardless, pretty much no expectation for it not to suck. The last thing this brand needs is yet ANOTHER divisive adaptation. But it sounds like that's what we're gonna get.

IMJ
01-30-2022, 12:00 PM
Going by descriptions on various websites it already sounds like a lost cause.

Adam... "An orphan who discovers he's a prince, destined to become savior of a faraway land..." Uh, yeah, none of that is how the story goes. He's not "an orphan" and his "turf" is literally his own backyard and everything beyond it

I read that and my first thought was "hmmm..... doesn't sound right, but ooookay".

See, we got out of the "Hollywood puts their spin nonsense on the source material" a long time ago. But it's been swinging back to it for a few years now and eventually I see adapted I.P. movies sucking again as Hollywood "Puts a clear helmet on Iron Man so you can see the actor" kind of nonsense happening.

ZariusTwo
07-19-2023, 05:16 AM
Netflix have pulled the plug on the movie

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/masters-of-the-universe-movie-dead-netflix-1235673281/

IMJ
07-19-2023, 01:09 PM
Netflix have pulled the plug on the movie

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/masters-of-the-universe-movie-dead-netflix-1235673281/

:lol: I saw a headline that said that they were already 30 million in on it too! -facepalms-

Bahamut810
07-19-2023, 04:04 PM
Good. Hopefully the next season of the Kevin Smith fiasco dies with it.

ZariusTwo
02-17-2024, 10:40 AM
The movie reboot has found new life. Travis Knight in talks to direct.

https://foreternia.com/2024/02/bumblebee-director-travis-knight-eyed-to-direct-new-masters-of-the-universe-live-action-film

And here's the premise

"The film is based on the popular 1980s cartoon series, and this iteration revolves around 9-year-old Prince Adam crashing to Earth in a spaceship and being separated from his Magical Sword – the only link to his home on Eternia. After tracking it down almost two decades later, Adam is whisked back across space to defend his home planet against the evil forces of Skeletor. But to defeat such a powerful villain, Prince Adam first will need to uncover the mysteries of his past and become He-Man — the most powerful man in the universe."

The Deadman
05-29-2024, 12:19 PM
Nicholas Galitzine Playing He-Man in Live Action ‘Masters of the Universe’ Movie
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3814138/nicholas-galitzine-playing-he-man-in-live-action-masters-of-the-universe-movie/

ZariusTwo
12-21-2024, 01:22 AM
Jared Leto cast as Skeletor

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jared-leto-nabs-skeletor-role-masters-of-the-universe-1236091837/

neatoman
12-21-2024, 04:33 AM
Jared Leto cast as Skeletor

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jared-leto-nabs-skeletor-role-masters-of-the-universe-1236091837/

Is he gonna morb all over He-Man?

Barkworm
12-21-2024, 07:29 AM
Oh my god, stop giving this guy work, aaargh.

Coola Yagami
12-21-2024, 10:42 AM
The MOTU movie is slated to commence shooting in June 2022 in New Mexico according to the Production Weekly Newsletter

https://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/showthread.php?275827-Netflix-s-Masters-of-the-Universe-Film-Official-Discussion/page78

Hold the phone. There's a NEW Mexico now?

Coola Yagami
12-21-2024, 10:44 AM
The movie reboot has found new life. Travis Knight in talks to direct.

https://foreternia.com/2024/02/bumblebee-director-travis-knight-eyed-to-direct-new-masters-of-the-universe-live-action-film

And here's the premise

So... He-Man in the last ten minutes of the movie. Nope.

ZariusTwo
02-14-2025, 04:10 AM
Location filming

Adam being arrested and the power sword confiscated

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGCXEg1uxY5/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=05d79f01-d365-4e6b-8e43-9fbb6e7da082&img_index=1

IMJ
02-14-2025, 11:40 AM
Location filming

Adam being arrested and the power sword confiscated

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGCXEg1uxY5/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=05d79f01-d365-4e6b-8e43-9fbb6e7da082&img_index=1


UGH..... WHYYYY is he on "Earth" again?
It's gonna fail.

Autbot_Benz
02-14-2025, 11:54 AM
UGH..... WHYYYY is he on "Earth" again?
It's gonna fail.

allegedly in some of the leaked scripts he was supermaned aka sent to earth as a baby and has no idea about his eternian heritage until he gets the power sword .

Its like what is so hard about doing a He-Man movie set on Eternia for the entire movie.

TigerClaw
02-14-2025, 03:56 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537832781049364490/1340077789092516051/HeManMeme.png?ex=67b10c32&is=67afbab2&hm=97fd403922094b9be2c1aa4221de5e6d1dc4edb929bca8e f5ea10d45318691af&

Andrew NDB
02-14-2025, 04:28 PM
Yeah, it's almost like they tried this 40 years ago and it failed spectacularly...

Oh, but not he was RAISED here first? Oh, OK, completely different, then! :roll:

TigerClaw
02-14-2025, 04:29 PM
Yeah, it's almost like they tried this 40 years ago and it failed spectacularly...

Oh, but not he was RAISED here first? Oh, OK, completely different, then! :roll:
Its basically like Superman

Andrew NDB
02-14-2025, 04:38 PM
Might as well do a TMNT movie where they're discovered by normal human parents and just raised in a suburb somewhere. That's a bold take, right?

TigerClaw
02-14-2025, 05:15 PM
Might as well do a TMNT movie where they're discovered by normal human parents and just raised in a suburb somewhere. That's a bold take, right?
I feel like that is something that the Last Ronin comics are currently doing, Casey Marie Jones is raising the next generation of TMNT.

IMJ
02-14-2025, 06:24 PM
allegedly in some of the leaked scripts he was supermaned aka sent to earth as a baby and has no idea about his eternian heritage until he gets the power sword .

Its like what is so hard about doing a He-Man movie set on Eternia for the entire movie.

The "Hollywood creator knows better than the source material".

It's VERY simple. DO the source material. The end. No speeches about how it can't be done or looks done, or other nonsense. Do the source material. They did an entire series of Tolkien movies in their own world decades ago. Shouldn't be that hard with He-Man.

Fans need to bankrupt these projects 100% until the creators who twist things are just gone. No claiming like a child that "you need to see it to judge it", and no going on about "well there was a cool moment where...". If it's not the source material literally burn their money.

Barkworm
02-15-2025, 03:51 AM
Where did they find this dude? He actually looks like a cartoon character.

Coola Yagami
02-15-2025, 03:02 PM
The "Hollywood creator knows better than the source material".

It's VERY simple. DO the source material. The end. No speeches about how it can't be done or looks done, or other nonsense. Do the source material. They did an entire series of Tolkien movies in their own world decades ago. Shouldn't be that hard with He-Man.

Fans need to bankrupt these projects 100% until the creators who twist things are just gone. No claiming like a child that "you need to see it to judge it", and no going on about "well there was a cool moment where...". If it's not the source material literally burn their money.
Honestly, Hollywood is so stupid with stuff like this I'm surprised Lord of the Rings didn't take place in modern day (as of 2001) Manhattan with them trying to throw the ring in some sacred pothole in Jersey.

IMJ
02-15-2025, 06:49 PM
Honestly, Hollywood is so stupid with stuff like this I'm surprised Lord of the Rings didn't take place in modern day (as of 2001) Manhattan with them trying to throw the ring in some sacred pothole in Jersey.

Remember how awesome the 80's "Beast Master" movie was? And then in the sequel they magically transported him to New York for some reason. WTF is with these people?

Barkworm
02-16-2025, 02:42 AM
The people pulling the strings in Hollywood don‘t trust fantasy settings. Sure, Star Wars was the biggest thing ever but it only had fantasy elements and was mostly Sci-Fi. And LotR might be seen as the exception that proves the rule. Other fan-favourite fantasy films have often been commerical disappointments. Of course, they still want to adapt successful toy franchises but to make them feel safer, they need to ‘ground them in reality‘. Which is an idiotic concept for fiction because fiction is always just as ‘real‘ as the world you‘re buliding, it doesn‘t get more relatable when you make Frodo Baggins visit the statue of liberty. In the end, fans of the franchise are disappointed and everyone else thinks it is stupid as well.

But still, that guy looks absolutely hilarious as Prince Adam.

ZariusTwo
04-03-2025, 01:47 AM
BTS reel shown at Cinemacon

https://deadline.com/2025/04/masters-of-the-universe-first-look-nicholas-galitzine-he-man-1236357305/

Coola Yagami
04-03-2025, 06:44 AM
Of course, they still want to adapt successful toy franchises but to make them feel safer, they need to ‘ground them in reality‘. Which is an idiotic concept for fiction because fiction is always just as ‘real‘ as the world you‘re buliding, it doesn‘t get more relatable when you make Frodo Baggins visit the statue of liberty. In the end, fans of the franchise are disappointed and everyone else thinks it is stupid as well.



And then the wrong lesson is always learned. It's not 'oh, the movie bombs because nobody wanted to see Frodo in Las Vegas'. It's 'oh the movie bombed because I guess fans just aren't into Lord of the Rings'.

IMJ
04-03-2025, 08:53 AM
"Grounding in reality" only means "Earth" for simp creators. For everyone else it means conforming to the rules of the franchise's "world" and giving the characters an emotional core. Fn idiot twats of Hollywood.

ZariusTwo
04-03-2025, 10:14 AM
Descriptions of footage

https://foreternia.com/2025/04/footage-from-the-masters-of-the-universe-movie-was-shown-at-cinemacon-and-we-have-descriptions

ZariusTwo
05-11-2025, 09:51 AM
New set photos

https://fictionhorizon.com/set-leaks-showcase-nicholas-galitzine-and-camila-mendes-on-the-set-of-masters-of-the-universe/

ZariusTwo
07-05-2025, 08:26 AM
MOTU will be the subject of a keynote presentation from Amazon and Mattel a BLE (Brand Licencing Europe) across October 7-9th


https://foreternia.com/2025/07/a-legend-reborn-reimagining-masters-of-the-universe-coming-this-october-to-brand-licensing-europe-2025

ZariusTwo
07-23-2025, 10:54 AM
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ZariusTwo
08-17-2025, 01:12 AM
Roboto assigned a female gender and played by Kristen Wiig

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/masters-of-the-universe-kristen-wiig-roboto-1236345546/

ZariusTwo
10-08-2025, 03:41 AM
Mattel have partnered with OpenAI and Sora V2 to produce content, so safe to say a lot of the promotional stuff for this film on social platforms is going to be generated this way.

https://www.reuters.com/business/mattel-partners-with-openai-sora-2-ai-video-model-2025-10-06/

ZariusTwo
01-21-2026, 09:32 AM
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drgon78
01-21-2026, 11:50 AM
Well at least Cringer is green with orange stripes and is in the movie.

Does anyone know if Orko will be in the movie?

IMJ
01-21-2026, 12:06 PM
I don't know how this could not be a complete disaster - especially involving "Earth". But it does look better than Street Fighter so that's something.....

And yes, I'd like this to be great.

sdp
01-21-2026, 12:24 PM
Is the original worth watching? I'm not a MOTU fan so anything that it messes up about the lore won't even matter to me as long as the movie is entertaining.

Barkworm
01-21-2026, 01:34 PM
The main theme of the 80s cartoon might just be my favourite piece of music ever which is mostly nostalgia, of course but it IS an awesome theme. Whenever I listen to it, I‘m five years old again, there‘s nothing comparable to me.

IMJ
01-21-2026, 02:14 PM
Is the original worth watching? I'm not a MOTU fan so anything that it messes up about the lore won't even matter to me as long as the movie is entertaining.

Very hard to say. You'll either enjoy it for what it is, or you'll be sitting through act 2 going "why on Earth are they on Earth?"

I like to imagine that somewhere out there is a cut of that movie that somehow eliminates all of the Earth content.

neatoman
01-21-2026, 02:49 PM
OK, I get that He-Man's mom is basically genderbent Flash Gordon, but I don't exactly see why earth should be a major aspect of this movie? I watched the one from the 80's recently and really weird how that one is almost entirely set on earth, isn't the whole appeal of the franchise that it is some mix of Conan and John Carter? Admittedly, we don't know yet how important earth will be but it's weird that both attempts to make a live-action version of this franchise seems to emphasise earth.

sdp
01-21-2026, 04:12 PM
I'll check it out, I think it could turn out into those weird messes that somehow just click for me.

Also I just watched the teaser trailer, "Back when things were simple and sugary cereal was healthy". Cringy as hell, old movie can't be worse than that.:lol:

IMJ
01-21-2026, 04:38 PM
I will say that Frank Langella really brings some gravitas to Skeletor. He's incredible in the role - authentically rises above the material.

member_removed
01-21-2026, 06:48 PM
Very hard to say. You'll either enjoy it for what it is, or you'll be sitting through act 2 going "why on Earth are they on Earth?"

Followed by, hey, that's principal Strickland, call someone a slacker!

The whole reason it's Earth based, is because it's a Cannon production. Those guys were infamous for cutting corners.

I think by 1987 MOTU and Superman IV were expected to save the studio.

I will say that Frank Langella really brings some gravitas to Skeletor. He's incredible in the role - authentically rises above the material.

IIRC he only agreed to do the movie, because his kids were fans of the TV show.

IMJ
01-21-2026, 08:10 PM
IIRC he only agreed to do the movie, because his kids were fans of the TV show.

Yeah he did a great interview years after the fact about the movie where he talks about that. He really took it seriously and was disappointed that they didn't shoot any scenes with him in the cartoon Skeletor outfit because he had spent so much time working out for it.

Just a really classy guy.

ZariusTwo
01-22-2026, 08:23 AM
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Barkworm
01-22-2026, 09:01 AM
Ooof, I wanted to be optimistic but that looks right on track for total disaster.

neatoman
01-22-2026, 09:48 AM
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That does not look like a good movie.

ZariusTwo
01-22-2026, 10:36 AM
For a 'teaser' they sure did reveal virtually everything that you could have saved for a bigger full trailer close to release, maybe even the week of release.

And they got Cringer completely wrong. He's just Battle Cat if you take all the armour off.

IMJ
01-22-2026, 10:36 AM
So they took MOTU, and basically made it "Woke Chronicles of Narnia".
And they could have made LOTR meets Star Wars.

sigh.

The Masters guys are starved for good content so they will pay to see this. But this movie should fail.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2026, 10:58 AM
I thought it looks... OK? If the Lundgren movie gives some precedence for "He-Man in the real world" in a feature film.

drgon78
01-22-2026, 11:30 AM
Looks good to me.

Barkworm
01-22-2026, 01:14 PM
So they took MOTU, and basically made it "Woke Chronicles of Narnia".
And they could have made LOTR meets Star Wars.

sigh.

The Masters guys are starved for good content so they will pay to see this. But this movie should fail.

What was ‚woke‘ about it? Black Man-At-Arms? I mean, who cares? They had black Zodac in the 2001 cartoon, it‘s not like they haven‘t done something similar.

But I thought you‘re dead-on about Frank Langella‘s Skeletor, he was amazing in that role and (at least to my kid self) downright scary.

Then you see this plastic-looking CG Skeletor mo-capped by that weirdo Jared Leto… yikes. Also, that kid who plays He-Man doesn‘t look all that buff. He‘s got a good face for the role but they should have beefed him up more.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2026, 01:59 PM
Black Man-At-Arms? I mean, who cares?

A lot. Race-swapping has become a really tired practice now in 2026, in a time where the movie and TV projects greenlit around BLM and COVID are fairly long in the rearview now. It's not enough to make me go "WOKE RUBBISH!" but it's enough to elicit wariness about the rest of the project, for sure. If they even HAVE a checklist out and are worried about that stuff, that's a pretty good indicator there's going to be more of it.

Autbot_Benz
01-22-2026, 02:07 PM
What was ‚woke‘ about it? Black Man-At-Arms? I mean, who cares? They had black Zodac in the 2001 cartoon, it‘s not like they haven‘t done something similar.

I figured it would be that and or the 2 second he-man gender pronoun joke.

He/him He Man

This looks fun.

IMJ
01-22-2026, 02:10 PM
What was ‚woke‘ about it? Black Man-At-Arms? I mean, who cares? They had black Zodac in the 2001 cartoon, it‘s not like they haven‘t done something similar.

I love Idris Elba, but I have zero tolerance for this BS. Pronouns on Adam's deskplate. Race swapped Man-At-Arms. Woke weirdo Kristen Wig as Roboto. Just all ongoing woke BS.

Don't get me wrong - I'll see this out of curiosity, but even if it's only those three things it's an instant "sure, I'll see it, but I'm not paying for it".

But I thought you‘re dead-on about Frank Langella‘s Skeletor, he was amazing in that role and (at least to my kid self) downright scary.

He brought a level of drama that the rest of the movie lacked completely. And I love that interview that we mentioned earlier - he dove into the role during an era where actors weren't doing that yet with this kind of content - outside of Superman, maybe.

Then you see this plastic-looking CG Skeletor mo-capped by that weirdo Jared Leto… yikes. Also, that kid who plays He-Man doesn‘t look all that buff. He‘s got a good face for the role but they should have beefed him up more.

The real weird thing is the Skeletor cape without the body harness. What did they do? Bolt it with a pin directly into his chest? And yeah let's face it - casting an entire civilization of extreme body builders is hard to do. I'm sure this movie will have the occasional eyecandy and maybe a cool moment here or there.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2026, 02:16 PM
Pronouns on Adam's deskplate.

Eh, see the way they're using that and, say, the blue-haired lady and all that I think is to go, "Here is an example of how WEIRD this modern world is" and not "Look at this example of how AMAZING this modern world is!"

At least, I'm pretty sure.

Woke weirdo Kristen Wig as Roboto.

That's a little concerning. She's not really on anyone's speed dial in Hollywood for these kind of movies who isn't of a certain voice (i.e., Ghostbusters 2016, WW1984).

Barkworm
01-22-2026, 02:18 PM
Naturally, not ALL of them need to be body builders. But He-Man? He should look like a beast.

And oh my god, I didn‘t even realize that was Idris Elba. Is he getting to Ben Kingsley‘s level of wasting his talent on horrible projects as long as the pay is fine?

Andrew NDB
01-22-2026, 02:20 PM
Naturally, not ALL of them need to be body builders. But He-Man? He should look like a beast.

And oh my god, I didn‘t even realize that was Idris Elba. Is he getting to Ben Kingsley‘s level of wasting his talent on horrible projects as long as the pay is fine?

I really don't understand how people still unironically can go to this day, "IDRIS ELBA FOR BOND!!" when he obviously sh** away even the faintest chance of that happening about 20 schlock movies ago.

IMJ
01-22-2026, 02:22 PM
Eh, see the way they're using that and, say, the blue-haired lady and all that I think is to go, "Here is an example of how WEIRD this modern world is" and not "Look at this example of how AMAZING this modern world is!"

At least, I'm pretty sure.

I think so too, but I don't care.

Naturally, not ALL of them need to be body builders. But He-Man? He should look like a beast.

And oh my god, I didn‘t even realize that was Idris Elba. Is he getting to Ben Kingsley‘s level of wasting his talent on horrible projects as long as the pay is fine?

I feel like he's sort of turning into a new "Liam Neeson". He's sort of a beloved actor, but he's going to churn out "movies". Just like Gerard Butler, although Neeson and Elba are both probably a few notches further along the "actor" spectrum whereas Butler basically shows up as Butler in action flicks now.

Now and again he turns out some strange arthouse gem though - like 3,000 Years of Longing.

Autbot_Benz
01-22-2026, 03:56 PM
Again the pronouns bit is a JOKE

He/Him He/Man come on people